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Ethical in what way exactly?? I had to go lookup the word again just incase I'm mixing up points in my tightly-stuffed head; well, if I would say, you actually meant our regular gambling sites are not being entirely acceptable in these listed countries? Cus they actually gamble big time in those countries too - maybe except anyone would wanna bypass the breach, then ofcourse VPNs do Thier jobs perfectly...
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Yeah, you could use a VPN to bypass the initial check, but what if you won something and want to withdraw it? You can't use a bank account from a banned country. It would be different if the bets are in Bitcoin
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September 23, 2023, 07:02:33 AM |
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What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?
All countries will definitely try to regulate gambling and they realize that they cannot completely ban gambling which has been around for a long time, especially nowadays when online casinos are popping up and people can gamble at any online casino as long as their country is not on the list of those prohibited from playing at that casinos. It's not unethical, it's just that the state feels the need to limit it because the money circulating there is quite large and can be profitable for the state when it is taxed, so they look like they are banning it, but actually, they only ban casinos that are not registered with the license that has been set by the state, that's why you will seeing that one casino is prohibited in one country but another casino can be used by its citizens to play.
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September 26, 2023, 05:35:39 AM |
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Currently, the government is also upgrading it's technological strategies of tracking casinos that are violating its policies. It might be easier to track online fiat casinos but crypto casinos will always be difficult to monitor. Since some cryptocurrencies are decentralised the government will not be able to control crypto casinos. In my country gambling is forbidden in a region while another region promotes and gains tax from it. But when the revenue from taxing these gambling companies is shared, even the region that bans gambling will accept the revenue derived from casinos ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . The government will not ban corruption but they want to ban casinos. Most of all these politicians are just hypocrites and religious fanatics. The focus should be on promoting responsible gaming and not an outright gambling ban. What we are seeing is that politicians are unable to keep up with the times, most politicians are very old and they refuse to leave even when it is obvious they cannot do their job properly, and this causes that they try to impose policies that make no sense at this time, if for example one of those politicians has a moral objection against gambling, I can respect that, but such objections should not be made into a law, because if they do, not only they will deny themselves a great deal of taxes but people will decide to gamble anyway, it is just that now they will hide their activities to avoid being prosecuted by those ridiculous laws.
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September 26, 2023, 12:40:28 PM |
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Currently, the government is also upgrading it's technological strategies of tracking casinos that are violating its policies. It might be easier to track online fiat casinos but crypto casinos will always be difficult to monitor. Since some cryptocurrencies are decentralised the government will not be able to control crypto casinos. In my country gambling is forbidden in a region while another region promotes and gains tax from it. But when the revenue from taxing these gambling companies is shared, even the region that bans gambling will accept the revenue derived from casinos ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . The government will not ban corruption but they want to ban casinos. Most of all these politicians are just hypocrites and religious fanatics. The focus should be on promoting responsible gaming and not an outright gambling ban. What we are seeing is that politicians are unable to keep up with the times, most politicians are very old and they refuse to leave even when it is obvious they cannot do their job properly, and this causes that they try to impose policies that make no sense at this time, if for example one of those politicians has a moral objection against gambling, I can respect that, but such objections should not be made into a law, because if they do, not only they will deny themselves a great deal of taxes but people will decide to gamble anyway, it is just that now they will hide their activities to avoid being prosecuted by those ridiculous laws. Those politicians are very old but still want power and don't remember their old age. They can no longer carry out their duties well and instead have a bad influence on their subordinates so that these subordinates continue what their elders did. And that often happens when politicians use their power to get what they want. In this case, they want more money. So it's natural that we still hear rumors that politicians have their own casinos and operate underground. Many people protect their casinos so that the place can operate safely.
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September 26, 2023, 12:57:01 PM |
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I found out from google that gambling is legal in some number of countries and still banned in many countries. ...... What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?
Remember that some countries prohibit certain activities as it goes against their morals and religion. For example, Muslim countries prohibit gambling as it is against their religion and they believe it as a sin. Others prohibit gambling due to its moral damage to the society in which it further applies more risk to its people. While this may be the case, there are some countries that see gambling in a 2-way perspective: one as an activity and one as an economic opportunity. In the Philippines, the revenue of gambling activities ranked 2nd to our main source of income for the country. With this in mind, the country uses these income to fund various government sectors and for the benefit of the society. I couldn't agree more. Countries prohibits any gambling acts because they might find it unethical and unlawful in some way, and this is because their belief is rooted from their culture. Other countries, just like the Philippines, made the legalization of gambling because it aids and helps the economic situation of the country. And I think this is a great move since the Philippines is a developing country, and making gambling legal in the country will support its economic status. But legalizing gambling does not equate to a country being neglectful, as there are laws and policies which governs certain rules and directives to regulate the gambling situation of the country. Also, making gambling illegal in one country does not really help at all, as there are still people who engage to it even if its prohibited in the country. So I think the best way is to make it legal, so that people are protected and at the same time, there is still a regulation and control. But again, if its against their belief we cannot do anything about it but to give respect.
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September 26, 2023, 01:03:22 PM |
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Currently, the government is also upgrading it's technological strategies of tracking casinos that are violating its policies. It might be easier to track online fiat casinos but crypto casinos will always be difficult to monitor. Since some cryptocurrencies are decentralised the government will not be able to control crypto casinos. In my country gambling is forbidden in a region while another region promotes and gains tax from it. But when the revenue from taxing these gambling companies is shared, even the region that bans gambling will accept the revenue derived from casinos ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . The government will not ban corruption but they want to ban casinos. Most of all these politicians are just hypocrites and religious fanatics. The focus should be on promoting responsible gaming and not an outright gambling ban. What we are seeing is that politicians are unable to keep up with the times, most politicians are very old and they refuse to leave even when it is obvious they cannot do their job properly, and this causes that they try to impose policies that make no sense at this time, if for example one of those politicians has a moral objection against gambling, I can respect that, but such objections should not be made into a law, because if they do, not only they will deny themselves a great deal of taxes but people will decide to gamble anyway, it is just that now they will hide their activities to avoid being prosecuted by those ridiculous laws. Those politicians are very old but still want power and don't remember their old age. They can no longer carry out their duties well and instead have a bad influence on their subordinates so that these subordinates continue what their elders did. And that often happens when politicians use their power to get what they want. In this case, they want more money. So it's natural that we still hear rumors that politicians have their own casinos and operate underground. Many people protect their casinos so that the place can operate safely. Political systems in many countries work in such a way that their true goals are not the welfare of citizens, but personal enrichment and ensuring the security of the system itself and the authorities that cover it. In the ranks of such political systems sit the same crooks, swindlers and subhumans who are willing to go to their heads just to hold on to power. That is why I have long since given up hope on the authorities, not only in matters of gambling and regulation of this sphere, but also in many other issues.
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September 27, 2023, 03:22:21 PM |
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~snip~
Political systems in many countries work in such a way that their true goals are not the welfare of citizens, but personal enrichment and ensuring the security of the system itself and the authorities that cover it. In the ranks of such political systems sit the same crooks, swindlers and subhumans who are willing to go to their heads just to hold on to power. That is why I have long since given up hope on the authorities, not only in matters of gambling and regulation of this sphere, but also in many other issues. Many people want to become politicians because they will use their power to get more money from the many loopholes they can exploit. Even though they say they will continue to work for the people, the results are not very significant for the people, while their wealth continues to increase from various sources. It happens in many countries. That's why if there are still gaps, more and more people want to become politicians. Even those elected as politicians want to regain their power by nominating themselves as politicians again.
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September 29, 2023, 05:24:42 AM |
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I couldn't agree more. Countries prohibits any gambling acts because they might find it unethical and unlawful in some way, and this is because their belief is rooted from their culture. Other countries, just like the Philippines, made the legalization of gambling because it aids and helps the economic situation of the country. And I think this is a great move since the Philippines is a developing country, and making gambling legal in the country will support its economic status.
But legalizing gambling does not equate to a country being neglectful, as there are laws and policies which governs certain rules and directives to regulate the gambling situation of the country. Also, making gambling illegal in one country does not really help at all, as there are still people who engage to it even if its prohibited in the country. So I think the best way is to make it legal, so that people are protected and at the same time, there is still a regulation and control. But again, if its against their belief we cannot do anything about it but to give respect.
Also it is not like governments have too much of a choice, after the pandemic ended most governments around the world found themselves facing an economic crisis, however they could not really raise the taxes too much as people were already struggling, and doing so will only force more people to give up on their businesses, so legalizing gambling is a good way to generate more jobs and taxes without strangling the economy, but it seems that even such argument is not enough to convince those which think gambling is bad simply because they say so.
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September 30, 2023, 06:38:31 AM |
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~snip~ Many people want to become politicians because they will use their power to get more money from the many loopholes they can exploit. Even though they say they will continue to work for the people, the results are not very significant for the people, while their wealth continues to increase from various sources. It happens in many countries. That's why if there are still gaps, more and more people want to become politicians. Even those elected as politicians want to regain their power by nominating themselves as politicians again.
Yeah, at the end of the day most politicians will try to help themselves and their friends first, and then, maybe, think about the people they govern. It is a sad reality and it should definitely be the other way around, but I am not sure about what we can do about it. Voting basically only gives you the illusion that we are in control, when in reality the politicians end up doing whatever they want once elected.
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September 30, 2023, 02:44:27 PM |
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Yeah, at the end of the day most politicians will try to help themselves and their friends first, and then, maybe, think about the people they govern. It is a sad reality and it should definitely be the other way around, but I am not sure about what we can do about it. Voting basically only gives you the illusion that we are in control, when in reality the politicians end up doing whatever they want once elected. It is difficult for us to overcome this because they already have many friends who will cover each other's activities. We can only complain without knowing where to complain because almost everyone is involved. And even if some are not involved in that circle, they also don't have the power to fight it. Voting is a formality to show the people that they are giving us the opportunity to choose the finalists. But after one of them is elected, they will only benefit their group without siding with the people. This makes the country's economic condition never improve or develop because they still control it.
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September 30, 2023, 03:29:39 PM |
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It is difficult for us to overcome this because they already have many friends who will cover each other's activities. We can only complain without knowing where to complain because almost everyone is involved. And even if some are not involved in that circle, they also don't have the power to fight it.
Voting is a formality to show the people that they are giving us the opportunity to choose the finalists. But after one of them is elected, they will only benefit their group without siding with the people. This makes the country's economic condition never improve or develop because they still control it.
It's our responsibility to held upon whatever outcomes we gets from gambling, that's totally a risks everyone in the space ought to afford. It's difficult to have a direct connection with the system especially when there's presence of restrictions rules mapped out in a country, gamblers tend to be more cautious because any slight mistakes might guarantee them to be facing some crucial punishment. Legal gambling is ensured to be instructed by the influential government in the country, granting permission to gamblers to have easy passage to gambling without having thoughts of ban restrictions.
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September 30, 2023, 08:36:50 PM |
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Currently, the government is also upgrading it's technological strategies of tracking casinos that are violating its policies. It might be easier to track online fiat casinos but crypto casinos will always be difficult to monitor. Since some cryptocurrencies are decentralised the government will not be able to control crypto casinos. In my country gambling is forbidden in a region while another region promotes and gains tax from it. But when the revenue from taxing these gambling companies is shared, even the region that bans gambling will accept the revenue derived from casinos ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . The government will not ban corruption but they want to ban casinos. Most of all these politicians are just hypocrites and religious fanatics. The focus should be on promoting responsible gaming and not an outright gambling ban. What we are seeing is that politicians are unable to keep up with the times, most politicians are very old and they refuse to leave even when it is obvious they cannot do their job properly, and this causes that they try to impose policies that make no sense at this time, if for example one of those politicians has a moral objection against gambling, I can respect that, but such objections should not be made into a law, because if they do, not only they will deny themselves a great deal of taxes but people will decide to gamble anyway, it is just that now they will hide their activities to avoid being prosecuted by those ridiculous laws. Those politicians are very old but still want power and don't remember their old age. They can no longer carry out their duties well and instead have a bad influence on their subordinates so that these subordinates continue what their elders did. And that often happens when politicians use their power to get what they want. In this case, they want more money. So it's natural that we still hear rumors that politicians have their own casinos and operate underground. Many people protect their casinos so that the place can operate safely. Political systems in many countries work in such a way that their true goals are not the welfare of citizens, but personal enrichment and ensuring the security of the system itself and the authorities that cover it. In the ranks of such political systems sit the same crooks, swindlers and subhumans who are willing to go to their heads just to hold on to power. That is why I have long since given up hope on the authorities, not only in matters of gambling and regulation of this sphere, but also in many other issues. Well, seeing the potential of things, a lot can be said, first that many theories can be supported, what I can talk about is about the country I live in, yes, here a casino can be very successful as long as it gives the government what they want. ask, it just has to, but we also have to evaluate something very important, that in this country there are many people with too much money and who can do whatever they want with their money, in fact there are people who have so much money that they don't even know on what to spend it on, obviously if an online casino is promoted here, then it's easier, because those people will just enter, in fact many times I have proposed that because I live in a very good area where I have the ability to move between two countries, where both They are excellent for games of chance, of course the things or advertising schemes here are not like in Europe, the USA, which is digital, here a lot of promotion is handled by radio, by advertising berries, by posters in places that people frequent like the shopping centers or something like that, and the impact on new customers will be excellent because many do not know or trust the guys on the internet, because they say that they can steal them, so they do not have the culture of a forum where they can do different things, and investigate to see if you can get better information, then you come here through the old traditional advertising. Of course I say that a casino that does well and with this advertising will make many enter, bet, because here things with the casinos are already allowed, before it was not allowed, but since things have already happened the things with the government, because obviously they give them a lot of money, because things have changed, in this order of ideas, there may be an unexplored market that has a lot of potential to be a very good customer for a traditional, digital online casino, but they have to deal with high-impact marketing to achieve satisfactory results.
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October 01, 2023, 09:54:12 AM |
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~snip~ It is difficult for us to overcome this because they already have many friends who will cover each other's activities. We can only complain without knowing where to complain because almost everyone is involved. And even if some are not involved in that circle, they also don't have the power to fight it.
Voting is a formality to show the people that they are giving us the opportunity to choose the finalists. But after one of them is elected, they will only benefit their group without siding with the people. This makes the country's economic condition never improve or develop because they still control it.
Yeah, the whole thing about voting is a bit of a show, because they basically have two options only, instead of having a real choice. But yes, at the end of it, it's all just a show so that people think they have a choice.
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October 01, 2023, 02:14:53 PM |
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It's our responsibility to held upon whatever outcomes we gets from gambling, that's totally a risks everyone in the space ought to afford. It's difficult to have a direct connection with the system especially when there's presence of restrictions rules mapped out in a country, gamblers tend to be more cautious because any slight mistakes might guarantee them to be facing some crucial punishment. Legal gambling is ensured to be instructed by the influential government in the country, granting permission to gamblers to have easy passage to gambling without having thoughts of ban restrictions. If gamblers could receive any results from gambling, they certainly would not complain about their losses, let alone blame the casino because that is the gambling risk. Every responsible gambler will be careful and not make the slightest mistake because it relates to his gambling account. Responsible gamblers will also only gamble at legal casinos because they can be calm when gambling and not worry about any problems. And if they experience problems, they can complain to the regulator and ask them to help with the investigation. ~snip~
Yeah, the whole thing about voting is a bit of a show, because they basically have two options only, instead of having a real choice. But yes, at the end of it, it's all just a show so that people think they have a choice. After the voting is complete, their powers will be replaced by new people appointed indirectly by their predecessors. Those appointed will continue this power until their term of office ends.
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October 02, 2023, 06:51:45 AM |
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~snip~ After the voting is complete, their powers will be replaced by new people appointed indirectly by their predecessors. Those appointed will continue this power until their term of office ends.
I am not so sure that the new people would be directly connected with the previous ones, but in the end they are very similar, both of them
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October 03, 2023, 11:26:47 PM |
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In this case, people who live in those countries are lucky as they have freedom to do gambling whenever wish. At least they don't need to involve in any trouble by using vpn for bypass and access gambling websites as well as no punishment need to be faced where others countries do so. But ethicality is different from one country to another based on their own thoughts. And each of those countries are right and have logical for offering and restriction gambling for their people. So if a country doesn't let you do gambling legally, it doesn't mean they are less ethical than them who offer legal gambling
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October 04, 2023, 07:35:01 AM |
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In this case, people who live in those countries are lucky as they have freedom to do gambling whenever wish. At least they don't need to involve in any trouble by using vpn for bypass and access gambling websites as well as no punishment need to be faced where others countries do so. But ethicality is different from one country to another based on their own thoughts. And each of those countries are right and have logical for offering and restriction gambling for their people. So if a country doesn't let you do gambling legally, it doesn't mean they are less ethical than them who offer legal gambling
I am not so sure if those people can be described as lucky, because at the end of the day gambling is a way of transferring money from the poor to the rich. In the countries were it is illegal to gamble, there is less gambling, and therefore less money is lost from normal people.
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ethereumhunter
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October 04, 2023, 09:30:06 AM |
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In this case, people who live in those countries are lucky as they have freedom to do gambling whenever wish. At least they don't need to involve in any trouble by using vpn for bypass and access gambling websites as well as no punishment need to be faced where others countries do so. But ethicality is different from one country to another based on their own thoughts. And each of those countries are right and have logical for offering and restriction gambling for their people. So if a country doesn't let you do gambling legally, it doesn't mean they are less ethical than them who offer legal gambling
Even if they are lucky, if they do not have restrictions on gambling, they will only experience serious gambling problems. And of course, they have to comply with the limits they have made so that they can enjoy gambling as they should. And it doesn't seem like it's about an ethical issue because each country has its own regulations and if a country prohibits gambling, the government must have its reasons why they prohibit gambling. And if a country allows gambling, perhaps its government has considerations too. There may be other unstated reasons why these countries allow or prohibit gambling.
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October 04, 2023, 09:51:36 AM |
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I live in a predominantly Islamic country, and why does gambling sound unethical? Well, it's because religious guidelines explicitly prohibit it. In the local culture, gambling isn't openly endorsed by various segments of society, mainly because there are still many young children who should not be involved in gambling.
However, as one matures, there are numerous channels that offer gambling opportunities. Despite being discreet, it has many enthusiasts and is like an open secret known to all adults. Surprisingly, in a country where gambling is prohibited, there are still a significant number of people who engage in it. The governing laws may appear to turn a blind eye, perhaps due to clandestine monetary influences behind the scenes. Who knows?
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October 04, 2023, 09:55:53 AM |
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In this case, people who live in those countries are lucky as they have freedom to do gambling whenever wish. At least they don't need to involve in any trouble by using vpn for bypass and access gambling websites as well as no punishment need to be faced where others countries do so. But ethicality is different from one country to another based on their own thoughts. And each of those countries are right and have logical for offering and restriction gambling for their people. So if a country doesn't let you do gambling legally, it doesn't mean they are less ethical than them who offer legal gambling
What ethics are you talking about when in many countries it is against the constitution to restrict gambling? In my country, since 2009, gambling has been allowed only in specially designated gambling zones. There are only five such gambling zones and it is almost unrealistic for many citizens to get to them. Do you think the citizens of my country have stopped gambling? That's right, they play online using VPN. In my opinion, the authorities did not act ethically, they did not care about the wishes of their citizens.
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