Stake Scammed me off apx. 20.000 USDT!I want my hard earned money back!Help Pls!

[tetaeridanus]

I will stop wasting my words here, I don't understand the stance or anything, all I know is you and others tried everything to counterfeit my thesis however it goes without any proofs on your side but only hypotheses. You realise all you have done is assumptions right? If database crashed what is my problem on this side? I never got kyc'd before so that makes everything you said to assumption. I never tried to trick site or anything. They illegally opened mirror sites in turkey which online gambling is illegal to make people come play at this site. This is what stake is, this is what fraud and scam is. I won't waste my words here; thanks for taking time and giving your opinion, however this is not a hard pill to swallow for me but bunch of assumptions. Casino Guru is nonethless stake.com's subsidiary company and a scam promoting site to me. I don't believe in their conclusions, because I know stake and them are talking privately, hence told me by the cg representative. Anyways only person who is a good hearted and a reasonable one I met here is you. Nice meeting you. Hope you finally come to truths with yourself at the end about this case.

I will try this again.

I can't stress this enough that I am in no way benefited from this case, at all. I am not in bed with Stake, I am not on their payroll, I am in no way affiliated with them, there is literally zero benefit for me on whatever outcome we get from this case, so I "couldn't care less" if Stake is the one who is wrong here or you understood them wrongly. What I do care is simply a resolution is reached on this case, no matter whose side it is. And currently all I can do is giving the narrative from what I understand to help you attain another point of view and/or to understand what happened more clearly.

Yes, I wrote the "second prong" part based on my assumption, that the permanent exclusion can't lock itself on tetaeridanus due to the "crash" on their database, but the part of "first prong", the external prevention is what casino guru found out after they thoroughly read Stake's explanation. So that part is an established fact.

I can understand if you won't accept this explanation-with-partial-assumption of mine, and I'm really sorry that you're in your current situation [not the addiction, I was talking about your family and your debt]. I believe this is where we part ways? I'll wish you a good luck and hope you can get out of this tunnel [not abyss or hole, tunnel, you just need to keep going, one step at a time] you're currently in.

Thank you very much for everything, you at least tried to shed some light in your own way; and at last even if i don't accept, thank you for your time and assumptions. Addiction is a long way home, one day one step at a time sir. I wish you the best as well.

With respect,
Tetaeridanus.

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[holydarkness]

Hi,

Continuing our conversation from the other thread to keep things in order,

I'd like to address your concern about how no one seemed to notify Stake's representative about your case, as the opportunity offered itself, one thing that might be worth to put in the open in attempt to be completely honest, I'll admit that Stake's representatives are the hardest to reach for me as they barely replied to my invitation, but on the previous case that's posted before yours, of which I sent a message to notify one of the representative, I was graced by a reply assuring that they monitored the scam accusations and forwarded every cases on this board to the staff.

If you want to, though, I can contact the same representative to notify him about your thread, just in case they set their PM setting to not accepting message from newbies? That's the least I can do for you.

[tetaeridanus]

My friend I thank you for even thinking about this, trying to help is well appreciated. You can do it if it's going to help anything. I don't think so but at least let's give it a try. You sir are one of the few real lads here. Even asking for this gesture and trying for a newbie is well appreciated. Let's give it a try, so we see if they give evidence which is plausible for both you and me.

After this thread I hope we bump into each other in this forum more.

Sincerely,

Tetaeridanus.

[holydarkness]

My friend I thank you for even thinking about this, trying to help is well appreciated. You can do it if it's going to help anything. I don't think so but at least let's give it a try. You sir are one of the few real lads here. Even asking for this gesture and trying for a newbie is well appreciated. Let's give it a try, so we see if they give evidence which is plausible for both you and me.

After this thread I hope we bump into each other in this forum more.

Sincerely,

Tetaeridanus.

I got a reply from the person who forwarded all of the cases on this board to Stake's staff yesterday, he informed me that Stake's staff has, indeed, been notified about this thread.

[BabyBandit]

To be honest, it doesn't look good. Admitting that you are a degenerate gambler and that you owe money to sharks before accusing a reputable forum casino doesn't help your case. Degenerate gamblers lie everywhere, and we have a recent case on the forum.

Ehh.. Wait... What? It's not illegal do be addictive of something or like something a lot. Even if its not good.

Why would something like that even matter? Just because they attend to lie, it should make his case worse and who cares id it 1 or 1000 other cases on the forum?
In cases like this, it what can be proofed and only that! Not what anyone thinks that matter.

Don't judge a book by it's cover! Even how ugly the book may be on the outside.
I really hope you don't work with the law, that would be terrible.

[tetaeridanus]

My friend I thank you for even thinking about this, trying to help is well appreciated. You can do it if it's going to help anything. I don't think so but at least let's give it a try. You sir are one of the few real lads here. Even asking for this gesture and trying for a newbie is well appreciated. Let's give it a try, so we see if they give evidence which is plausible for both you and me.

After this thread I hope we bump into each other in this forum more.

Sincerely,

Tetaeridanus.

I got a reply from the person who forwarded all of the cases on this board to Stake's staff yesterday, he informed me that Stake's staff has, indeed, been notified about this thread.

I have sadly lost my grandfather, whom I have been so close for many years; to a sudden death. I have not been on this forum for a few days, I had to pick him up from outside of the city to create the funeral service. Hence I don't know if I got a message or not; I won't be the same anymore. I wish I have merited you with my smerits for your at least try on this case. It seems like I got no replies from them, I am ignoring all negative people and negative commenters from now on. Life is more important than spending it with negative people.

[tetaeridanus]

To be honest, it doesn't look good. Admitting that you are a degenerate gambler and that you owe money to sharks before accusing a reputable forum casino doesn't help your case. Degenerate gamblers lie everywhere, and we have a recent case on the forum.

Ehh.. Wait... What? It's not illegal do be addictive of something or like something a lot. Even if its not good.

Why would something like that even matter? Just because they attend to lie, it should make his case worse and who cares id it 1 or 1000 other cases on the forum?
In cases like this, it what can be proofed and only that! Not what anyone thinks that matter.

Don't judge a book by it's cover! Even how ugly the book may be on the outside.
I really hope you don't work with the law, that would be terrible.

Thank your for being a reasonable and a smart man; I am going through tough days; it makes my day to see reasonable people giving good replies to trash talkers. This guy you are commenting , doesn't even deserve a reply. He is just a loser with no love. Probably he isn't loved by anyone also; so don't take your time to reply to him. Thanks for standing up for me!✨

[tetaeridanus]

My friend I thank you for even thinking about this, trying to help is well appreciated. You can do it if it's going to help anything. I don't think so but at least let's give it a try. You sir are one of the few real lads here. Even asking for this gesture and trying for a newbie is well appreciated. Let's give it a try, so we see if they give evidence which is plausible for both you and me.

After this thread I hope we bump into each other in this forum more.

Sincerely,

Tetaeridanus.

I got a reply from the person who forwarded all of the cases on this board to Stake's staff yesterday, he informed me that Stake's staff has, indeed, been notified about this thread.

Any news my friend?

[holydarkness]

Any news my friend?

They only said that they [the representative who forwarded all of the scam accusation to the team] had informed the team about your issue. Have no one from their customer service reached you ever since?

[tetaeridanus]

Any news my friend?

They only said that they [the representative who forwarded all of the scam accusation to the team] had informed the team about your issue. Have no one from their customer service reached you ever since?

Sadly no my friend; I buried my grandpa last week, I am mentally out; I will check emails today, I don't velieve they even cared to help.

Thanks holydarkness; I will give merit to you once i get to 8. All for your good heart.

[holydarkness]

Any news my friend?

They only said that they [the representative who forwarded all of the scam accusation to the team] had informed the team about your issue. Have no one from their customer service reached you ever since?

Sadly no my friend; I buried my grandpa last week, I am mentally out; I will check emails today, I don't velieve they even cared to help.

Thanks holydarkness; I will give merit to you once i get to 8. All for your good heart.

I hate to be a bearer of bad news, but if you haven't get any email from them ever since, then I'm afraid it means they decided to not reconsider your case and still stick to the initial decision they made few months ago. I am sorry that I can't be help for any further.

[tetaeridanus]

It's not bad news holydarkness; they can't even reply to a single post; they are cowards who don't give a shit about players or any one of you. I see many users here with their signatures; who are also probably getting scammed by stake.com, stockholm syndrome I guess. I will never stop ever, exposing these people. They scammed me out of my 20.000$ and didn't even reply to me single time even on CG; because they are thieves and think they can get away with this. I am going nowhere; just watch when I become a ordinary profile here on bitcointalk, I will see how stake will respond when a legendary profile will accuse them of being thieves. I am about to kick the bee hive; good luck stake.com.

[tetaeridanus]

And to that coward who is forwarding all this and not even given a single shit to reply here; you will too; your site opens mirror sites on illegal juristictions, I also have many people waiting to sue stake because of their marketing campaigns in countries where gambling is punished as 10 years of prison. Staketr.com staketr2.com hahahahhaha; you guys think you can get away with being this unlawful and still no word gets out? No. You are and will all rot in prison when regulation kicks in, you unlawful thiefs.

[tetaeridanus]

Any news my friend?

They only said that they [the representative who forwarded all of the scam accusation to the team] had informed the team about your issue. Have no one from their customer service reached you ever since?

Sadly no my friend; I buried my grandpa last week, I am mentally out; I will check emails today, I don't velieve they even cared to help.

Thanks holydarkness; I will give merit to you once i get to 8. All for your good heart.

I hate to be a bearer of bad news, but if you haven't get any email from them ever since, then I'm afraid it means they decided to not reconsider your case and still stick to the initial decision they made few months ago. I am sorry that I can't be help for any further.

You know what our ancestors say? Truth has a habit of coming out one day.All of the rats will sink with the ship, including the rats in this forum.

[Pmalek]

It's a sad situation you have put yourself in tetaeridanus. I know that addiction is real even though I have never been around real addicts of any kind.
In my limited experience with gambling problems, I have realized that those who want to gamble will find ways to do it. A few years ago, I remember a case of a local guy who was banned from one of our physical sportsbooks. Still, he would spend time near it and beg people to place bets for him by offering them the money. I never saw him personally, but I know people who did. And in some cases it worked.

Back to your case. With or without your account permanently closed through self-exclusion, I don't think it would have stopped you from gambling somewhere. If not on Stake, then on other casinos. You were aware of your problems playing casino games, and you still gambled on sports. When you lost on sports, you wanted to go back to playing casino games, and it worked. If it didn't work on Stake, I think you would have done it elsewhere. 

Casinos act predatory when they smell money, and sadly you were easy prey for them.
Try and get your life back together and stop with the self-destruction. You can do it only if you truly want it.   

[tetaeridanus]

It's a sad situation you have put yourself in tetaeridanus. I know that addiction is real even though I have never been around real addicts of any kind.
In my limited experience with gambling problems, I have realized that those who want to gamble will find ways to do it. A few years ago, I remember a case of a local guy who was banned from one of our physical sportsbooks. Still, he would spend time near it and beg people to place bets for him by offering them the money. I never saw him personally, but I know people who did. And in some cases it worked.

Back to your case. With or without your account permanently closed through self-exclusion, I don't think it would have stopped you from gambling somewhere. If not on Stake, then on other casinos. You were aware of your problems playing casino games, and you still gambled on sports. When you lost on sports, you wanted to go back to playing casino games, and it worked. If it didn't work on Stake, I think you would have done it elsewhere.  

Casinos act predatory when they smell money, and sadly you were easy prey for them.
Try and get your life back together and stop with the self-destruction. You can do it only if you truly want it.  

No I couldn't play anywhere else because I would need to withdraw the money to do that. I respect and read your reply; I don't seen anywhere how stake.com deserves that money, If I was permanently banned. I don't think you are on point. I am on treatment right now thanks for the addiction advices🖐🏻. You not even saying single word on how self exclusion didn't work is beyond unreasonable to me.

[tetaeridanus]

It's a sad situation you have put yourself in tetaeridanus. I know that addiction is real even though I have never been around real addicts of any kind.
In my limited experience with gambling problems, I have realized that those who want to gamble will find ways to do it. A few years ago, I remember a case of a local guy who was banned from one of our physical sportsbooks. Still, he would spend time near it and beg people to place bets for him by offering them the money. I never saw him personally, but I know people who did. And in some cases it worked.

Back to your case. With or without your account permanently closed through self-exclusion, I don't think it would have stopped you from gambling somewhere. If not on Stake, then on other casinos. You were aware of your problems playing casino games, and you still gambled on sports. When you lost on sports, you wanted to go back to playing casino games, and it worked. If it didn't work on Stake, I think you would have done it elsewhere.  

Casinos act predatory when they smell money, and sadly you were easy prey for them.
Try and get your life back together and stop with the self-destruction. You can do it only if you truly want it.  

No I couldn't play anywhere else because I would need to withdraw the money to do that. I respect and read your reply; I don't seen anywhere how stake.com deserves that money, If I was permanently banned. I don't think you are on point. I am on treatment right now thanks for the addiction advices🖐🏻. You not even saying single word on how self exclusion didn't work is beyond unreasonable to me.

You know self exclusion is a must for their license right? If someone thinks they have a gambling pronlem; the casino should do what it must do and stop him from playing. I don't understand a single thing in your answer that is trying to help me. I am not here to beg, I am here to show the truth but since I am a newbie no one givez a single shit. I don't think visitors in this forum are so eager to register because of the act upon newbies.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

It's not bad news holydarkness; they can't even reply to a single post; they are cowards who don't give a shit about players or any one of you. I see many users here with their signatures; who are also probably getting scammed by stake.com, stockholm syndrome I guess.

Stop the fantasy.

I am going nowhere; just watch when I become a ordinary profile here on bitcointalk, I will see how stake will respond when a legendary profile will accuse them of being thieves. I am about to kick the bee hive; good luck stake.com.

You are already an ordinary profile here on bitcointalk, and no matter how long you stay and get to Legendary it won't do you any good. The only thing that could help you is to enter DT and be able to paint red his profile, but even then I don't think it would do much good, as the OP of the official Stake.com thread is Stunna, who has 30 positive feedbacks and is not very active lately. Stake.com has a great reputation on the forum and you're not going to change it for your isolated case.

The only thing left for you to do is to take legal action as I told you before because here on the forum you are not going to get anything more than to continue to be angry, as you keep showing in your posts.

[Pmalek]

I don't seen anywhere how stake.com deserves that money, If I was permanently banned.

It's not about whether or not they deserve the money. They won the money that you lost. That's all.

You know self exclusion is a must for their license right? If someone thinks they have a gambling pronlem; the casino should do what it must do and stop him from playing.

We don't live in a perfect world my friend. The reality of the world and what is happening in it is different from how it should be. Life is going to eat you alive if you aren't strong mentally and to some degree physically. Do you agree with me that addiction is a weakness and a disease? 

I am here to show the truth but since I am a newbie no one givez a single shit. I don't think visitors in this forum are so eager to register because of the act upon newbies.

This has nothing to do with you being a newbie, and I am pretty sure you know it. You are looking to vent. Stake is at fault, the forum is wrong, Pmalek is at fault because he isn't helping me. None of that makes any difference. Your addiction got you here, and I hope you will recover from it. I don't think I can wish anything better for you than to recover and become a healthy and strong individual who can take control of his life and be capable of making sound and logical decisions.   

[tetaeridanus]

It's not bad news holydarkness; they can't even reply to a single post; they are cowards who don't give a shit about players or any one of you. I see many users here with their signatures; who are also probably getting scammed by stake.com, stockholm syndrome I guess.

Stop the fantasy.

I am going nowhere; just watch when I become a ordinary profile here on bitcointalk, I will see how stake will respond when a legendary profile will accuse them of being thieves. I am about to kick the bee hive; good luck stake.com.

You are already an ordinary profile here on bitcointalk, and no matter how long you stay and get to Legendary it won't do you any good. The only thing that could help you is to enter DT and be able to paint red his profile, but even then I don't think it would do much good, as the OP of the official Stake.com thread is Stunna, who has 30 positive feedbacks and is not very active lately. Stake.com has a great reputation on the forum and you're not going to change it for your isolated case.

The only thing left for you to do is to take legal action as I told you before because here on the forum you are not going to get anything more than to continue to be angry, as you keep showing in your posts.

Welcome back! First you were saying no one's gonna reply to a degenerate, now telling me to stop the fantasy. I respect your opinion about everything and thanks for your opinions, may I ask you what is your choice of act? So Stunna has a great rep, so he can't be at fault right? You Stop the Fantasy. Yeah we will see in the future, I get act upon in every thread because of rank, like i am a spastic individual. Anyways thanks for your replies Don Dinero, even how much you are spitting at me with anger, I believe you are a genuine person. Thanks.