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September 19, 2023, 03:14:13 PM
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What criteria do you use when buying and selling? Let's share some tips and expertise.

For me, the three most significant factors are as follows:
1. Bitcoin halving.
2. A decrease in currency value due to economic downturns.
3. Sustained participation and growth of investors.

Therefore, I make a continuous effort to stay updated with all the news to track numbers 2 and 3 consistently.

Getting specific to Bitcoin. I don't prefer and recommend (ATLTs) as well to anyone.

As per IMO, I would like to choose the Bitcoin Halving in the current time and the 2nd point for the future perspective. 3rd point carries some weightage as change in the narrative market grows and from the historical data, it's clear as glass that every narrative brings a higher adoption rate.

Moreover, I think sentimental analysis and time-to-time market development awareness are also important.


I have shared my story a lot of times, but here is the short version, that I came to know about BTC in 2018 but came to know about this forum in 2021.

I do like adoption stories, there will be a decent thread covering this topic as well, but I'd like to get the reference if possible.

I think technical analysis is also necessary but I honestly don't do TA as I am a holder and do DCA and that's why I don't really spend time on TA.

TA, I think holders do TA as well because just holding is not an efficient approach some decent decisions are necessary for better holding as well and that really requires the FA & TA.

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September 19, 2023, 03:30:08 PM
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Do you agree that sentiment is embedded in charts?
It can be, to some extent. Through looking at open interest and such.

This is also what makes it so dangerous, in my opinion, to assume a start of the bull with the coming halving (probably in April 2024). Everyone assumes that the halving will usher in the next run, but there is absolutely no guarantee of that, certainly not the shortage of supply of "new" Bitcoin through mining.

However, you can already see "well-known" crypto-influencers promising viewers the blue of heaven and arguing that it was the same in the past. Three cycles, where the halving has actually heralded the bull, do not allow for a guarantee for the future.
Exactly, hence why I'm a bit skeptical. I still don't know what's going to happen though, so I'll make sure I have dry powder if ever we see the opposite of what most people are expecting to happen.

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September 19, 2023, 03:33:50 PM
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I do like adoption stories, there will be a decent thread covering this topic as well, but I'd like to get the reference if possible.
I did not create a separate topic to share my story of how I came to know about BTC and crypto. But I shared my story whenever I got the opportunity. Actually, I would like to share it again, I tried to spend some time back in 2018 in earning online money. And came to know about crypto and spent a lot of time on many fake and scam projects, mostly spending time on virtual mining of BTC which was a total waste. And then I came to know about a browser which mine at the same time as surfing it. And only that browser rewarded me some BTC which was worth some cents.

https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Faisal2202&content=2018
You can find some references to the posts in which I shared my story by clicking on the above link. And tbh I am actually shocked to see how many times I referred to that story.

TA, I think holders do TA as well because just holding is not an efficient approach some decent decisions are necessary for better holding as well and that really requires the FA & TA.
You are right, but I said I don't do that, I did not say, that not every holder does TA I said I don't do TA in holding. I hope you understand my point.

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September 19, 2023, 03:49:16 PM
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What criteria do you use when buying and selling? Let's share some tips and expertise.
The most effective of them all for the biggest profits is the use of technical analysis combined with broker leverage, but this comes at the cost of being liquidated should the markets go against you and the downside of this strategy is that it isn't beginner friendly!

But if you are for the idea of trading with technical analysis then best to remove the leverage and buy/sell without the risk of being liquidated and profits are slow and steady.

For me, the three most significant factors are as follows:
1. Bitcoin halving.
Tbh, I thought targeting the halving was the holy grail of trying to maximize profits , but unfortunately, the effects of this take way too long to be realized for us retail traders to consider this strategy...unless you are a whale or something that doesn't mind a 5% , 10% raise because the profits aren't some small numbers!

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September 19, 2023, 05:48:21 PM
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It all boils down to market sentiment. Mostly it's not even the decreased supply distribution through the halving that causes market upticks — it's mostly the fact that people think they need to invest more money in the asset due to decreased bitcoin units being distributed. It's mostly only narratives in the short-mid term.


Do you agree that sentiment is embedded in charts?

I don't think that everything boils down to the market sentiments. But I do agree that having only can not affect the price of BTC but it does have some impact on the market. Because everything revolved around the halving of BTC, for example, if a person would have known about halving then he would make a decision that could make him some good profit. Like in holding purposes.
In addition dear Hearbit OP, I did not understand your question, market sentiments have no link with charts, in market sentiments there come actions that are based on emotions. For example FOMO etc.

And for OP, you have shared some good tips and these basically cover all the main pinpoints that a trader and a holder keep in mind before making any trade in the crypto tokens.

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September 19, 2023, 06:03:33 PM
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3. Sustained participation and growth of investors.
Point number three may refer to investors' long-term investments. As an investor I like to invest for the long term. Before every investment I have a plan that I will invest for long term and also I have an idea of how much profit I can get after that long period of time if I invest for a long time. According to my opinion, if my investment is profitable before I wait for a long time, then I sell my investment immediately.  
After selling the investment during that period, I again wait for the market to come back to a good state from which I can once again make a profit. This is basically how I think as an investor, and I've seen success with thinking this way several times.

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September 19, 2023, 07:19:52 PM
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What criteria do you use when buying and selling? Let's share some tips and expertise.


For me, the three most significant factors are as follows:
1. Bitcoin halving.
2. A decrease in currency value due to economic downturns.
3. Sustained participation and growth of investors.


Therefore, I make a continuous effort to stay updated with all the news to track numbers 2 and 3 consistently.

4. News
5. Hype/Fud
6. Technical indicators
7. Fundamentals

Totally really just the same if we do speak about those words above or simply that connected. Buying and selling decisions would vary into each person because not all would really be that
ending up on having the same decisions when it comes to this matter due to several factors that might really affect someones investment decisions. The important thing on here is that you should
really not make yourself get easily influenced by other people or rely into their tips and suggestions with your investment decisions which bare in mind that we are all speculators on here
and its normal that you would really be needing to rely on your own but its not bad to snip out some idea from others but dont totally rely on it 100%.

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September 19, 2023, 08:16:54 PM
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1. Bitcoin halving.
This Bitcoin halving will be a sign that we are getting closer to big bullishness which will give rise to a new ATH, but we are also ready for various manipulations carried out by whales to get cheap prices before the halving occurs.
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2. A decrease in currency value due to economic downturns.
The economic crisis will indeed have an impact on decreasing the value of the currency and this will be an opportunity to buy Bitcoin or other crypto. But is bitcoin going down too or not? During a crisis crypto will rise but when the economy strengthens crypto will fall. it will be a moment to buy and sell.
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3. Sustained participation and growth of investors.
Seeing investors who are starting to be interested in a project, then we have to monitor it and if the project is good with the number of investors starting to increase, then coming in for a few dollars is good enough and will sell when the project is successful.

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September 19, 2023, 09:56:27 PM
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This is what I did. I buy when - there are market corrections and I sell - when I already see a profit. This means that I only rely on the market sentiment and take advantage of the volatility of the market - up and down.

As a holder and trader, every up and down is an opportunity to earn which I believe that most of us see it through. We can use the volatile feature of the market to make money in the crypto space. Here in crypto, it is not just we have a concrete plan but must also have an effective way of investing.

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I just consider two things,

1. buy when in bear market 

2. sell when the target price realized probably during the bull market. 

I accumulate when there is a bear market.  With bear market, the price of Bitcoin is tanking and mostly it can be bought cheaper.  Bear market lasts for months to  years, and with this span of time, we might see several dips or what they called lower low, and that is the best time to buy BTC.

In selling, I do sell on a target price.  So obviously it is when the Bitcoin price is surging.  I do not know what the peak price is when Bitcoin is uptrending so I just set a selling price and sell may coins when the target price realized.
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September 20, 2023, 12:58:47 AM
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The criteria I used when buying and selling is when the price is down a lot or when my time for DCA comes. The selling time is when the price reaches my target price, but if it does not happen, I will continue my DCA until the price increases.

This mean you must have a strong psychology and strategy adjustment plans to be able to keep up with being patient to wait for your targeted selling and buying time. Not all traders can  align fine with this.

For anyone that doesn't have a lucrative source of income that can maintain his overall needs setting a selling target and falling back to DCA when target is not met can be hampered as the trader may be forced to sell even when the target hasn't been met especially when there's profits already made. So if anyone chooses this type of strategy he should be sure to have other strong income source other than cryptocurrency.
I know it's hard but I'm still trying to be a strong holder and wait for my sale time. And even though sometimes I feel like it's hard, I can still endure it. In the meantime, I can enjoy the price journey over time and not feel rushed.

I don't have a big source of income but I just adjust to existing sources of income. For example, this week I have more expenses than last week and I can't buy this week, that's okay and I don't force myself to buy. I'm sure I'll be able to buy more next week.

All are based on practice, while other things adapt to circumstances. That's the only way I could survive until now.

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September 20, 2023, 02:29:18 AM
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I just consider two things,

1. buy when in bear market 

2. sell when the target price realized probably during the bull market. 

I accumulate when there is a bear market.  With bear market, the price of Bitcoin is tanking and mostly it can be bought cheaper.  Bear market lasts for months to  years, and with this span of time, we might see several dips or what they called lower low, and that is the best time to buy BTC.

In selling, I do sell on a target price.  So obviously it is when the Bitcoin price is surging.  I do not know what the peak price is when Bitcoin is uptrending so I just set a selling price and sell may coins when the target price realized.
we don't know to what extent the market price will correct so it is difficult to enter at the right time even when the market is bearish.
And indeed, in trading we must have a target to make realistic profits for sure and because of that it requires several strategies and also patience to achieve it all.
What you do is a simple thing that is quite good, if you have strong patience then it is very likely that you will achieve many benefits.

However, this is different from me, who uses a lot of strategies in trading by looking at several indications so that I can have a fast turnaround, winning is quite risky, but I think it will be very worth it.

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September 20, 2023, 05:16:36 AM
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What criteria do you use when buying and selling? Let's share some tips and expertise.


For me, the three most significant factors are as follows:
1. Bitcoin halving.
2. A decrease in currency value due to economic downturns.
3. Sustained participation and growth of investors.


Therefore, I make a continuous effort to stay updated with all the news to track numbers 2 and 3 consistently.

I think No. 2–3 will not be effective for scalpers who like day trading or short-term trading. Also, another such opportunity is that most communities in this industry are now preparing for the upcoming Bitcoin halving and bull run.

And one of the main things that crypto or bitcoin enthusiasts are doing right now is doing the dollar cost average; they don't want to miss the opportunity that will come next year's bull season. Even though two bull runs have passed, I have not even prepared to hold anything to make a profit in this matter, so this time too, I will not allow myself to keep anything.

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September 20, 2023, 07:17:01 PM
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we don't know to what extent the market price will correct so it is difficult to enter at the right time even when the market is bearish.
And indeed, in trading we must have a target to make realistic profits for sure and because of that it requires several strategies and also patience to achieve it all.
What you do is a simple thing that is quite good, if you have strong patience then it is very likely that you will achieve many benefits.

However, this is different from me, who uses a lot of strategies in trading by looking at several indications so that I can have a fast turnaround, winning is quite risky, but I think it will be very worth it.

I am more of a long term holder, so I don't do day trade since it needs a lot of monitoring and is tiring for me.  My indicator is that, my reentry point is when the market price moves below my selling price.  Then since it is a bearish market, I average down every dip.  I don't buy in one go, I do accumulation every lower low until I think I have accumulated enough then set a realistic target price not waiting for Bitcoin to break its ATH.  I do not want to get greedy since it can eat up my time and effort, so I am happy with a bit of profit as long as it is not a loss trade for me.
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September 20, 2023, 07:35:52 PM
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I'm going for number 1 this time but number 2 and number 3 are for the long term.
We all know the Bitcoin block halving is fast approaching and past actions of every block halving we experience a pump on Bitcoin before the event not during or after.
Halving is what everyone is waiting for the most, including me too. I've even been accumulating Bitcoin and other altcoins to sell when the halving hype arrives. We all know how powerful this halving moment is. The hope is of course to reach a new ATH either before or after the Halving or later in the middle of the year between 2024-2025. This will be the 4th Halving that will change the crypto market.
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What criteria do you use when buying and selling? Let's share some tips and expertise.


For me, the three most significant factors are as follows:
1. Bitcoin halving.
According to the history, Bitcoin halving really affect the price of Bitcoin, but this will happen in every 4 years. If that strategy you are using meaning you are a long term investors. I'm not against with you because it's your decision and it's a safest time to invest Bitcoin. Personally, 4 years is quite long to wait before you invest that's why since I have knowledge how to analyze the market I used this to invest short term in Bitcoin and some times I do trading.

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September 20, 2023, 11:45:03 PM
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I'm going for number 1 this time but number 2 and number 3 are for the long term.
We all know the Bitcoin block halving is fast approaching and past actions of every block halving we experience a pump on Bitcoin before the event not during or after.
Halving is what everyone is waiting for the most, including me too. I've even been accumulating Bitcoin and other altcoins to sell when the halving hype arrives. We all know how powerful this halving moment is. The hope is of course to reach a new ATH either before or after the Halving or later in the middle of the year between 2024-2025. This will be the 4th Halving that will change the crypto market.

the halving always have certain surprises for this community, so as long as there's positive talks on this market, we may expect that we will have positive movement as well. however, you need to be conservative with your estimates especially if your financials are not that too big to accommodate losses.
but if you are looking at a certain period that you need the funds, better consider your options. as you may likely end up selling at a lower price.

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Bitcoin halving serves as a profitable event for all investors. Originally I was not an investor from the beginning but later I invested some of my money and was able to earn some profit from it. But I think it's a good sign that when the markets reach their maximum highs, it's sure to make good profits for all investors. When the bull started in 2021 all coins including Bitcoin were at their highest value and I got some good profit from here. However if a person invests now and waits for the next bull, he must note the fundamentals when investing will pay off. That is why Bitcoin should be chosen to invest and it is better to invest for a long period of time to earn good profit from it.

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I only buy coins which has capabilities. The marketcap of the coin decides how much popular the coins is among the masses, so yes the marketcap of the coin is the highest factor which I consider before investing in any coin. Now when I find a coin like this, I track it for few weeks to see the growth, if I find any great pattern, then I definitely invest in it. Due to the high marketcap of the coin, I always have confidence that I will make little losses only. Nowadays I only see potential in Bitcoins, ETH and BNB, so rarely choosing any other coin to invest.

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What criteria do you use when buying and selling? Let's share some tips and expertise.
Currently I am using Bitcoin for long term investment. And it is definitely based on Bitcoin halving by depositing a certain amount weekly or monthly in the wallet through DCA management. Initially I decided to deposit $10 per week.  I have seen many people make a fixed deposit of money in the bank to get interest. In that case, if Bitcoin can be kept in the holding for a long time, I think this strategy will be much better than keeping money in the bank.
Moreover, there is no chance of being harassed with data.  And if we see bull run seasons after bitcoin halving then I think bitcoin will bring this investment profit several times more than that.

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