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September 25, 2023, 04:45:31 PM
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What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
I think I have to see first what the condition is. if it just pays for Elon Musk profit alone without any good reason it's better to leave it. but from what I hear they want to get rid of Twitter bots their only solution is to make it pay. but if it pays a large amount I won't pay it. However, social media should be used for free.
Everybody is right on their own opinion, but due to my own opinion X is like the best social media platforms that I derived a lot from it, I don't think I have any option rather than to pay for it, is only me that know what am getting from it. Sometimes if am lonely I use X for fun. My reason for saying I will pay is that if I did not see any news on X I don't believe in it because even in own country politicians like X and they use as a middle of pass information and a type that prefer to see things with my on eyes because they say seen is believing. I am type that hate fake news and in X they easily make it clear either true or false.

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September 25, 2023, 05:08:19 PM
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Fake accounts and bots are their problem (not ours) but it's crazy on they are now requiring us to pay to fix those mess. The people behind those abuses are also a shit. They are a cancer to the community. They don't do anything good. I hope they all die horribly and get different kinds of karma if in case they won't get caught one day.

@OP if you want to earn while using X, you can try joining social media campaigns here in the forum. In X, you can also subscribe to premium in order to get the small blue check tag in your profile. It has a perk of adding ads in your posts and you can earn some profit on it depending on your engagement.

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September 25, 2023, 07:47:16 PM
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It's no news that the economy of X has been dwindling and I wouldn't say I was shocked when I read the news from CNBC that Elon Musk in a live stream conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated to start letting X charge every user a small amount monthly to combat fake account and bot dominance.

I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.

As much as I respect the fact that Musk needs ways to monetize the microblogging app, there are some things I won't take. I won't pay for a service that others will offer similarly for free, not when I don't earn a penny from it.

If he makes his deed good, then someone like me will surely excuse myself no matter how little he charges.

My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.

What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?

Elon does not care for any of the users of X, he simply bought it so he could be the ultimate arbitrator and penalize anyone that is vocal against his ideas, even if he does not take revenge directly. He has ruined the platform and his character has driven away many big advertisers who will likely not return while he still owns it. He has proven time and again that he is a liability, reckless with his words and could do massive harm to any brand that associates with him. Even by his own account, it was obvious for many others to see, he vastly overpaid for the platform and combined with falling revenues - again caused by him - it will be a struggle for him to turn it into any sort of profitable organization for a long time.

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September 27, 2023, 05:27:01 AM
Last edit: September 27, 2023, 07:40:40 PM by STT
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I give him a little more credit then that premise, I want to be a dictator.  The price was 40bn and presumably forcing people to agree with him is not going to work out on any timescale, do I really believe he thinks otherwise; I do not.    I cant see why he has bothered especially but now he is stuck with the hot potato he ordered, I imagine he does try to improve some factors and sell it on which is a feasible plan.   Even with regrets he could make a profit or break even, compared to Tesla he is wasting his time the moneyarty premium the market gives TSLA is gigantic they think he is a king.  
   Heres the first positive take I've seen on his administration and ultimately could be a big deal if somehow it is empowering to the crowd in any fair way.  I dont know how its balanced but evidently people love 'Community notes' as a feature: https://youtu.be/2HIrJGjvuFY?t=108

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September 27, 2023, 05:53:11 AM
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Fake accounts and bots are their problem (not ours) but it's crazy on they are now requiring us to pay to fix those mess. The people behind those abuses are also a shit. They are a cancer to the community. They don't do anything good. I hope they all die horribly and get different kinds of karma if in case they won't get caught one day.

Well, Elon wrote that he doesn't see any other way to deal with all those bots. He even described the situation that it wouldn't be profitable for someone who has a lot of bots to pay for all of them. Bots are a really serious problem, and here I have to agree with Elon, I don't believe there is any other way to fight them, which would be similar/or more effective.

We need to wait for these changes... when they come and when I check what's there all about I will think about paying and staying or I will simply move to some other platform. But like some other people here, I am mostly active on Twitter, I didn't open any other platform for months/years.

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September 27, 2023, 09:58:45 AM
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I've been neutral about Elons plans to charge users for using Twitter, but lately think more and more about him giving examples to others. Lets suppose he starts charging (or not) fees for Twitter (so far this is just an idea as far as I know). But what if Facebook, Instagram and Gmail will start to charge for service? What will you do and think then? Also claim that "they tell people to leave" ? Or live with idea that one day we will have to pay for what we get for free in past, and pay for it?

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September 27, 2023, 10:32:21 AM
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I've been neutral about Elons plans to charge users for using Twitter, but lately think more and more about him giving examples to others. Lets suppose he starts charging (or not) fees for Twitter (so far this is just an idea as far as I know). But what if Facebook, Instagram and Gmail will start to charge for service? What will you do and think then? Also claim that "they tell people to leave" ? Or live with idea that one day we will have to pay for what we get for free in past, and pay for it?

We will end up paying it or else there will be another social media giant that is free and dominating it all but the problem right now is that people are into it meaning their photos and important contacts are saved into it so if they ask you to pay probably there are plenty of people paying it because of their photos videos and their data.

I do hope that if ever X charges its users, Facebook and other platforms won't because if this happens for sure another social media platform will rise and be used by us as not all of us are willing to pay.
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I've been neutral about Elons plans to charge users for using Twitter, but lately think more and more about him giving examples to others. Lets suppose he starts charging (or not) fees for Twitter (so far this is just an idea as far as I know). But what if Facebook, Instagram and Gmail will start to charge for service? What will you do and think then? Also claim that "they tell people to leave" ? Or live with idea that one day we will have to pay for what we get for free in past, and pay for it?

We will end up paying it or else there will be another social media giant that is free and dominating it all but the problem right now is that people are into it meaning their photos and important contacts are saved into it so if they ask you to pay probably there are plenty of people paying it because of their photos videos and their data.

I do hope that if ever X charges its users, Facebook and other platforms won't because if this happens for sure another social media platform will rise and be used by us as not all of us are willing to pay.
If such a problem arises from this change, I'm sure it will mostly be big brands who need to save their social media that will purchase the app or access to the platform. However, for everyday users and those who are just there for updates on whichever community they belong in, I'm sure they'll be reluctant to pay for it and move to a different platform, it just isn't really worth it to pay for basic access to a social media platform that used to be free for years.

As for other social platforms possibly doing the same, I think it is close to impossible to ever happen. Facebook and Instagram may contain ads and have options for their users to pay for some premium experience, but I don't think Mark will require payment just for the basic access and use of these social media platforms knowing how negative the feedback will be, and besides these platforms are already doing so well (in terms of the number of users they have).

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We know how people use twitter in different ways, and after Elon bought it and made another branding of X because he wanted to gain back all losses, and see the potential of the twitter now is X for a platform into the web3 or other crypto-related stuff he now want to include the monthly payment for the badge and at the same time using X has now a fees if that so people only have money can afford it and for sure the number of users will be decreased. In my part I won't use it anymore. Possible only people who really capable to use and earn with it enjoys the perks of it.

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September 28, 2023, 06:46:44 AM
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I've been neutral about Elons plans to charge users for using Twitter, but lately think more and more about him giving examples to others. Lets suppose he starts charging (or not) fees for Twitter (so far this is just an idea as far as I know). But what if Facebook, Instagram and Gmail will start to charge for service? What will you do and think then? Also claim that "they tell people to leave" ? Or live with idea that one day we will have to pay for what we get for free in past, and pay for it?

We will end up paying it or else there will be another social media giant that is free and dominating it all but the problem right now is that people are into it meaning their photos and important contacts are saved into it so if they ask you to pay probably there are plenty of people paying it because of their photos videos and their data.

I do hope that if ever X charges its users, Facebook and other platforms won't because if this happens for sure another social media platform will rise and be used by us as not all of us are willing to pay.

People can always save and reupload all the photos. Contacts can be warned that you move other platform. And I think the account will stay in database anyway. I just look on this situation on different angle. We are so much used to subscriptions today. Tv, music, videos, games, apps on phone/tablet/car and etc. People even have subscription to daily coffee at petrol station at my place. So one more subscription wont affect their life significantly imo.

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September 28, 2023, 11:15:47 AM
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We know how people use twitter in different ways, and after Elon bought it and made another branding of X because he wanted to gain back all losses, and see the potential of the twitter now is X for a platform into the web3 or other crypto-related stuff he now want to include the monthly payment for the badge and at the same time using X has now a fees if that so people only have money can afford it and for sure the number of users will be decreased. In my part I won't use it anymore. Possible only people who really capable to use and earn with it enjoys the perks of it.

The original purpose of Twitter was not to make a living off it, though. It was all about sharing pictures, stories and micro blogging; to keep in touch with celebrities, organizations and other people which produced content we liked.

If Elon Musk focused too much into monetization and the earning aspect of Twitter, those who simply liked to stay informed, comment and follow others will just quit and find alternatives, the decrease of users will be translated in a further loss of value for Twitter.

I don't know what it is going through that man's mind, but it seems he is rather trying to destroy the platform instead getting his money back.

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September 28, 2023, 03:50:17 PM
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We know how people use twitter in different ways, and after Elon bought it and made another branding of X because he wanted to gain back all losses, and see the potential of the twitter now is X for a platform into the web3 or other crypto-related stuff he now want to include the monthly payment for the badge and at the same time using X has now a fees if that so people only have money can afford it and for sure the number of users will be decreased. In my part I won't use it anymore. Possible only people who really capable to use and earn with it enjoys the perks of it.

The original purpose of Twitter was not to make a living off it, though. It was all about sharing pictures, stories and micro blogging; to keep in touch with celebrities, organizations and other people which produced content we liked.

If Elon Musk focused too much into monetization and the earning aspect of Twitter, those who simply liked to stay informed, comment and follow others will just quit and find alternatives, the decrease of users will be translated in a further loss of value for Twitter.

I don't know what it is going through that man's mind, but it seems he is rather trying to destroy the platform instead getting his money back.
I agree with you. Twitter (or now known as X) is a social media platform, it's main purpose is to be a space for users to communicate and form a community of different interests. Hence, these users who are mostly there to stay connected and informed will surely not spend any amount of money to just use the basic features of the platform, features that they can easily access from other social media platforms/app without spending anything. It will be such a loss for Twitter/X if these users chose to leave as they are the ones who makes up more than half of the overall users of Twitter/X. Elon Musk must have forgotten just how big of a role users have when it comes to social media platforms.

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The crazy part about this X thing to me is that no matter how much Elon says he wants free speech, the employees are still censoring people. Just yesterday he fired the entire fair election team for manipulating elections. I myself even still get censored when discussing topics like transgender people. There’s still a ways to go…

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September 28, 2023, 04:57:35 PM
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Everybody is right on their own opinion, but due to my own opinion X is like the best social media platforms that I derived a lot from it, I don't think I have any option rather than to pay for it, is only me that know what am getting from it. Sometimes if am lonely I use X for fun. My reason for saying I will pay is that if I did not see any news on X I don't believe in it because even in own country politicians like X and they use as a middle of pass information and a type that prefer to see things with my on eyes because they say seen is believing. I am type that hate fake news and in X they easily make it clear either true or false.

You would believe a bot account with 20k followers with information over your local news network. Crazy times. As for fake news and misinformation, it still runs rampant despite some feeble attempts to  make some changes. If you’re truly looking for credible information near you, buy a copy of your local paper where sources are literally quoted.
You’re probably not the only one who would pay to use the platform. I believe people who paid for verification checks along with others would also pay to tweet. To each his own.
When you’re sometimes lonely, you use X for fun. I suppose you’re making good use of the adult content on the platform eh.. wink wink
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September 28, 2023, 10:22:12 PM
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We know how people use twitter in different ways, and after Elon bought it and made another branding of X because he wanted to gain back all losses, and see the potential of the twitter now is X for a platform into the web3 or other crypto-related stuff he now want to include the monthly payment for the badge and at the same time using X has now a fees if that so people only have money can afford it and for sure the number of users will be decreased. In my part I won't use it anymore. Possible only people who really capable to use and earn with it enjoys the perks of it.

The original purpose of Twitter was not to make a living off it, though. It was all about sharing pictures, stories and micro blogging; to keep in touch with celebrities, organizations and other people which produced content we liked.

If Elon Musk focused too much into monetization and the earning aspect of Twitter, those who simply liked to stay informed, comment and follow others will just quit and find alternatives, the decrease of users will be translated in a further loss of value for Twitter.

I don't know what it is going through that man's mind, but it seems he is rather trying to destroy the platform instead getting his money back.
I agree with you. Twitter (or now known as X) is a social media platform, it's main purpose is to be a space for users to communicate and form a community of different interests. Hence, these users who are mostly there to stay connected and informed will surely not spend any amount of money to just use the basic features of the platform, features that they can easily access from other social media platforms/app without spending anything. It will be such a loss for Twitter/X if these users chose to leave as they are the ones who makes up more than half of the overall users of Twitter/X. Elon Musk must have forgotten just how big of a role users have when it comes to social media platforms.

If I had to guess, I would say he has allowed his ego to devour his own common sense. He may believe people will pay and stay just because he is kind of a celebrity and a meme on the internet.

Though, I am sure that to this point he may have someone sane enough around him to tell him that charging for Twitter is a bad idea if he ever plans to try to recover his money. In the case Elon only listens to Yesmen, it is safe to say Twitter will be a dead social media by a year after the fee is implemented.

Threads by Facebook and other alternatives will obviously try to capitalize on it. It would be foolish not to at that point.

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If someone had told me years back that a day would come when someone would have access to Twitter(X), I would bluntly doubt the person that it can't happen. But here I am, thinking about how will this be possible when Twitter(X) has been my major social media platform I enjoy mostly on acquiring information about crypto more often.

Anyway, since this is the plan of Elon Musk to monetize X, I think that will be the end of my journey with X because I can't afford to pay for what I am not getting a reward for joining at the end of each of my days socializing with it.



Nobody is actually stopping Elon Musk from doing whatever he pleases, let him continue to monetize X until we find a better social media platform that can beat X someday. By that time, it would have been clear to him that X wouldn't continue to be the best social media that will exist in the globe.

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this is why competition for twitter is needed, but unfortunately even thread made by instagram only popular for a whole week and then vanish into thin air.
people are just really fond with twitter already doesn't matter what silly business decision there is they already used to twitter and hardly could move into other social media platforms.
so therefore I think elon will just keep adding more and more idea about monetization of this platform after all he has spent billions of dollars. There have been also a rumor said that if elon would be pricing its platform.
Any users already registered in x shall pay x amounts as subscribe fees. Since elon bought twitter with decent amount of money and this billionaire is willing to get it back as soon as possible by implementing various things to it.

therefore I'm not gonna be surprised if the whole platform gonna be all about taking money from its users.

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You would believe a bot account with 20k followers with information over your local news network. Crazy times.

If we say AI instead of bot would that make any more sense.    We're heading towards where a bot is easily more useful to follow for collated information and responses then a person can be.  This isnt a negative outcome, the part where its a bot but deceiving people or the info is false thats a negative and also true.  I think AI is not just hype, it'll increase seems like.




Whatever Elon's rules and the websites rules, there is a legal requirement in each and every country they operate in.  I know at least some of these countries will count some of the topics on X as hate speech and you cannot just say whatever you like when it involves whats perceived as threats or anything violence related.   I dont like the PC culture especially but I think we already know not every topic will be ok, point is that in the course heated discussion people basically can come close to legal boundaries and go past that line where its no longer a peaceful debate hence why the website is always going to need some kind of moderation.  You cannot have this dream like idea of total free speech, theres always some who want to take it too far thats been true every year that Twitter or X existed.  
  I beginning to think Elon's tenue might not be a disaster, he can perhaps turn it around enough to say Im done and exit at some point with a few improvements perhaps to the quality and bots he complained about.  Maybe thats all he needs but my doubt would still be he makes a profit or it was actually a worthwhile project for him in personal advancement but not everything is monetary.

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