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September 28, 2023, 05:31:09 PM
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Every year there are new phones and if we fuel our wants always then we have tons of phones and it would be useless as we ain't using them or worse you wouldn't have any savings at all.
I think everyone needs to choose between a lifestyle that meets their daily needs and one that continues to be used in the long term and this applies to everyone. Be it rich people or poor people, because when someone always prioritizes their lifestyle every year by continuing to follow updates on expensive goods that can give them a luxurious lifestyle. One day that person will also be poor if he doesn't care about his income because he feels he is rich and won't fall into poverty again, whereas a poor person would be very silly if he followed this, especially if the poor person doesn't have any savings.
Ensuring that you live the everyday that fits how much you are getting from your annual income, as well as making sure that also means being able to save up, is a must in toady's time. No one should expect to achieve financial stability while living the lifestyle that doesn't financially fit them. I know and have seen a lot of people who had to deal with the consequences such action and decision brings, they soon realized how big of a loss they are doing and how it is affecting their future negatively. On contrast, I also know a lot of people who was able to establish a good financial life by doing the complete opposite, they made sure that they are only buying what they need, ensuring that they are able to make investments and save up some money as well. They still of course enjoy luxury goods sometimes, but too much to the point that they need to touch their savings for it. I think we all need to learn to do that, no matter how tempting it is to live a luxurious flashy life.
Isn't this the classic story of people being carried away by their wants and needs until it's too late? It's absurd how many people, when it comes to money, don't understand how simple it is to live within your means. I have witnessed countless, yes countless, people try to maintain a lifestyle that is beyond of their reach only to fail under the weight of their own bad choices. Don't they get it? Simple math. If you're earning X amount, don't spend Y amount where Y > X. Nothing too complicated there. It's absurd!

There are, of course, smart people who are good at managing their money and making sure they have enough for investments, savings, and an occasional luxury purchase. Congratulations on mastering the basic art of spending less than earning. Give it a round of applause, please.

Wake up, everyone lured by luxury. Being wealthy is a serious matter, and living over your means? A guaranteed path to disaster. Learn from your own kind's mistakes and put the basics into practice. Is it really that hard?  Embarrassed Embarrassed

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September 28, 2023, 07:13:53 PM
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Like you rightly said, human wants are insatiable the higher your income the higher your financial burden. But with the right knowledge of financial management and growth, one can avoid running into bankruptcy and lack. The one thing to have wants and another thing to put unnecessary wants under subjection.
The problem is that we will always admire more things even when we have enough in our reserves. This is one of the reasons why the rich are always wanting more not minding if others considered them as over sufficiently wealthy. Everyone wants to make more money even when they have enough to spend and eat. The problem comes as a result of the rich don't want to come down and they are ready to do anything to have more money. Money is the root of all evil even at that, money still answers all things that is why people can do anything for money.
@bushdark you got it all wrong, money isn't the root of all or any kind of evil it's actually the love (obsession) for money that is evil and not money itself.

It is natural that humans don't get satisfied with how much of whatever they may have and for those that haven't gotten the privilege to have a bit of how much wealth you might have gathered they may be professing how they will be contented never to wants extra more if they could only but get a little part of your wealth but when they eventually do  they don't get satisfied. The truth is no amount of wealth is ever enough we keep striving for more.
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September 28, 2023, 07:57:40 PM
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Like you rightly said, human wants are insatiable the higher your income the higher your financial burden. But with the right knowledge of financial management and growth, one can avoid running into bankruptcy and lack. The one thing to have wants and another thing to put unnecessary wants under subjection.
The problem is that we will always admire more things even when we have enough in our reserves. This is one of the reasons why the rich are always wanting more not minding if others considered them as over sufficiently wealthy. Everyone wants to make more money even when they have enough to spend and eat. The problem comes as a result of the rich don't want to come down and they are ready to do anything to have more money. Money is the root of all evil even at that, money still answers all things that is why people can do anything for money.
@bushdark you got it all wrong, money isn't the root of all or any kind of evil it's actually the love (obsession) for money that is evil and not money itself.

It is natural that humans don't get satisfied with how much of whatever they may have and for those that haven't gotten the privilege to have a bit of how much wealth you might have gathered they may be professing how they will be contented never to wants extra more if they could only but get a little part of your wealth but when they eventually do  they don't get satisfied. The truth is no amount of wealth is ever enough we keep striving for more.
And thats part of human nature on which you would really be always long or asking for more despite on having that sufficient amount of money or possession that you do have in now.People would really be asking for more since we know that once you do have the money then it would really be giving out that kind of feeling that it is really that symbolized power and authority among other people and this is fact or something that reality that we are facing today. Desires is unlimited and we majority would really be that something materialistic and really hungry for more. Im not really that generalizing all but most of the time it would really be having on this way.Speaking about expenses then it would really be just that normal because we do really need things for us to live on day to day on which spending or allocating budget is something that would really be in default and this is why we do really work hard our asses of just for the sake of survival.It did really just turns out that on the time that your earning is bigger then you would really be that impulsive on buying things  which arent supposed to be bought since its really not really that significant specially buying something that would be getting in line with your wants. Its not bad to buy something for yourself but everything should really be
in moderation because if not then you would really be finding yourself on great trouble.

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September 28, 2023, 08:44:54 PM
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Please be aware that there are many needs. There are even what are called daily needs such as food, long-term needs and also sudden needs. We need to fulfill all of this and we need to prepare. And indeed, even if we spend the money we earn from working for one month, our needs still cannot be fully met. And indeed, sometimes as you get older, your needs continue to increase. In this case, instead of us being busy doing nonsense so that the government can reduce the price of goods. It would be better if what we do is to continue trying and improving our skills and knowledge so we can earn more money. And it is important for us to sort out the needs that we will fulfill, so that more important needs can take priority and our expenses can also be regular.

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September 28, 2023, 08:59:45 PM
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It isn't possible to meet the ends meet at once, which is why we humans keep trying our best and even go the wrong way to make money in order to get our desires be met as nobody in today's world wants to wait and just want their wishes to be fulfilled asap. However, a person who can control his needs is the real hero because he knows how to take care of requirements of the family.  Wink
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September 28, 2023, 09:11:17 PM
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Please be aware that there are many needs. There are even what are called daily needs such as food, long-term needs and also sudden needs. We need to fulfill all of this and we need to prepare. And indeed, even if we spend the money we earn from working for one month, our needs still cannot be fully met. And indeed, sometimes as you get older, your needs continue to increase. In this case, instead of us being busy doing nonsense so that the government can reduce the price of goods. It would be better if what we do is to continue trying and improving our skills and knowledge so we can earn more money. And it is important for us to sort out the needs that we will fulfill, so that more important needs can take priority and our expenses can also be regular.

I certainly agree, we can meet our basic needs but we can't fulfill everything that we need in life in a short period unless we'll grind and work so hard and be successful to achieve everything. Even if we don't spend too much on our wants, there are still needs that we should fulfill. As our salaries increase, our expenses increase as well. It's never-ending, to be honest, but despite everything, we should never disregard the purpose and importance of investing. We should know how to put value on it even if it takes time for us to gain the profit that we want.
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September 28, 2023, 10:38:59 PM
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There is a difference between needs and wants.  In most cases, the needs should be satisfied first, and wants can be ignored.  The needs are essential for surviving while wants are just luxuries.  Depending on the capability of a person especially his wage capacity, most needs can't even be met, even basic needs are hard to meet these days due to price inflation.  So it is better to look for another source of income if we want to satisfy ourseleves and meet the extra baggage (wants) in life.

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September 28, 2023, 10:47:54 PM
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So, folks, I wish to remind us to always keep to your budget, still hold on to your savings, and invest for the future. Don't always think you can use your entire savings to solve today's problem, forgetting that tomorrow's needs, desires, and problems are going to evolve.

Isn't it that we do save money for the future? Basically, we shouldn't think that our entire savings currently can solve all the problems regardless of whether it's current or in the future. What matters is, that in case of emergency or urgent needs, we do have backup money that is just waiting to be deployed.

For our savings to be a good financial source in case of urgent needs it needs to grow over time.

Finding a stable work or source of income is the key to having healthy savings. Investing also in insurance might be considered.
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September 29, 2023, 03:24:55 AM
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First I would say "human needs are insatiable." Upon attending to some current needs, definitely others will arise. So, even if you spend all your earnings trying to solve every of your needs, that doesn't mean that other needs might not arise.
It is true, the needs of life are basically things that will never be resolved, as long as we are still alive in this world. Because every day we as humans definitely have needs such as having to eat and having to have clothes. So it is certain that the need will continue to exist.
But in my personal opinion, what gnaws at our wallets more than needs is desire. Let's just think about it, if we need it it means we really need it and in general we can say that we have to get it. However, when talking about desires, actually these rights are not mandatory to always be obtained. However, according to my personal observations, quite a few people prioritize their desires over their needs. For example, buying an item or tool that is expensive but not very useful. So in essence, the need will definitely remain, as long as we as humans still have breath. But what we have to be more careful about and we have to be able to control is the matter of desire. Because if we cannot control a desire, it will most likely have a very bad impact on our economy.

Bitcoin investment doesn't require a pocket full of money before you can invest, but it's something you can do with in a peaceful mind and with no minimum or maximum amount. It also doesn't put restrictions on the amount of Bitcoin people want to buy or hold, so it's better to invest than to wait until you have finished satisfying all your needs before you think of investing in Bitcoin.
Of course, if someone had to wait to invest in bitcoin until their life's needs were met, I don't think such a person would ever invest in bitcoin. Because if you only think about the necessities of life there will be no end. However, when investing in Bitcoin, using unused(cold) money as bitcoin investment capital is a must. Because, the context is different, if you invest in Bitcoin you have to use hot money. Of course this is not recommended. So basically, in this context, invest in bitcoin and don't wait until your needs are completely met. It is my understanding that this context still requires the use of cold capital. And the context of the need in question is a very large need. Because if, for example, our living needs are not prioritized (which are mandatory, such as eating), it could actually have bad consequences. Therefore, the needs I mean here are needs that are actually not that important. It's like buying a car, even though you can still use public transportation.

Don't always think you can use your entire savings to solve today's problem, forgetting that tomorrow's needs, desires, and problems are going to evolve.
Yes, that's right, savings money is intended for something when the situation is really urgent. But if, for example, one day there is an urgent situation, it can't be helped, of course we have to spend our savings. And if it runs out, this could happen. Because sometimes we can't predict what urgent situations might occur, and we don't know whether we should spend all our savings on those situations or not.

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September 29, 2023, 03:45:14 AM
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There is a difference between needs and wants.  In most cases, the needs should be satisfied first, and wants can be ignored.  The needs are essential for surviving while wants are just luxuries.  Depending on the capability of a person especially his wage capacity, most needs can't even be met, even basic needs are hard to meet these days due to price inflation.  So it is better to look for another source of income if we want to satisfy ourseleves and meet the extra baggage (wants) in life.

That is why you can't meet all your wants even if you use all of your salary. The more you fuel your wants the more they burn meaning if you buy a new phone because it is the latest and new to the market you will still not be satisfied after a new phone is released after a week and it will continue the cycle.

People are shaken already now because of the price of food or anything that you need to buy. That is why others tend to not easily buy their wants and they already knew that they would struggle if they prioritized their wants first. Unless you have extra money that you don't know how to spend or you are rich then for sure they are still going for their wants instead of their needs.
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September 29, 2023, 03:56:43 AM
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There is nothing that can control human desires to fulfill their desires, even the richest people in the world are still trying to add to their list of wealth even though the wealth they have accumulated will not be consumed by seven generations. As long as humans are still breathing, their stomachs will never be full even if they are filled with all the sea water, humans' desires will continue to increase every time they see something new.

Those who are not yet financially stable need to prioritize their needs rather than their desires. The money they earn each month must be managed well so they don't get into debt before the turn of the month. It is necessary to set aside monthly income for savings to avoid economic difficulties. Bitcoin is a safe place to save some money for people who have studied the Bitcoin system.
Saving may not make you rich instantly, but having savings will keep you free from financial problems.

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September 29, 2023, 04:11:30 AM
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Can't agree more to this. Yes, life will always presen us with desires and needs, and it is something that we can never fulfill no matter what. It is up to us to determine which ones to prioritize. Just as you've pointed out, one of the most common misconceptions people have about Bitcoin is that you need a large sum of money to start investing. In reality, the beauty of Bitcoin lies in its divisibility, allowing one to buy even a single satoshi. You don't need a one whole bitcoin to make profit. You can always buy fractions and start your journey from there. And yeah, it's vital to distinguish between needs and wants. Basic necessities like food, shelter, and healthcare should always come first. Once those are taken care of, investing in assets like Bitcoin can be a wise choice for the future, even if it's a small amount. After setting aside funds for essential needs and future investments in bitcoin, we can then indulge in non-essential wants as much as we want!

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September 29, 2023, 04:40:28 AM
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There is a difference between needs and wants.  In most cases, the needs should be satisfied first, and wants can be ignored.  The needs are essential for surviving while wants are just luxuries.  Depending on the capability of a person especially his wage capacity, most needs can't even be met, even basic needs are hard to meet these days due to price inflation.  So it is better to look for another source of income if we want to satisfy ourseleves and meet the extra baggage (wants) in life.

That is why you can't meet all your wants even if you use all of your salary. The more you fuel your wants the more they burn meaning if you buy a new phone because it is the latest and new to the market you will still not be satisfied after a new phone is released after a week and it will continue the cycle.

People are shaken already now because of the price of food or anything that you need to buy. That is why others tend to not easily buy their wants and they already knew that they would struggle if they prioritized their wants first. Unless you have extra money that you don't know how to spend or you are rich then for sure they are still going for their wants instead of their needs.
If we can control ourselves from our desires then the income we earn will be sufficient for us, but if we follow our desires too often then whatever income we get will certainly make us unable to save let alone invest from the salary we have. Being able to control our desires will indeed be very easy if we hear it from motivators, but to do it all depends on our own personality, we need to work hard to be able to do it. You are right that people who have a lot of wealth buy things not for their needs but because they need recognition from people that they can have it and it doesn't matter how much money they spend.

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September 29, 2023, 07:18:47 AM
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It is human nature to want more, bigger, newer and etc. It is human nature to place new goals immediately after past is achieved. As soon as we purchase something or spend money, we immediately think how to combine it with other, how to we would use it with combination with something. And such chain goes on and on. That is why there is never enough when we speak about money. Those who earn hundred, already know where they could spend thousand. Those who earn thousand, knows where they would earn hundred thousands. Millionaires always need billion to fulfill their plans.

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September 29, 2023, 10:35:34 AM
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Honestly, I need to read something like this to apply some peace of mind in me, because lately I have set my focus om acquiring more Bitcoin before it's too late and I believe that anything after the next Bitcoin halving is considered too late, until the next bear market again which is years away.

I have a major BTC goal before that time and I can't help but keep doing all I can to get to the certain figure, I am a bit worried that I won't be able to get that exact amount before the halving period runs out.

But reading your topic makes me believe that we really can't meet all our needs in life, because at this rate, even if I try to push myself more, I would probably land into a state where I don't want to be.

I need to have a brighter future, it's a must but at the same time, it is not healthy to push yourself too much because of Bitcoin, it's better to work slowly and have a great life in the future than to push yourself into unnecessary DCA pressure.
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September 29, 2023, 01:27:34 PM
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I do not think that the needs and desires of any human will ever be reached. It's nobodies fault but it is just how we are built as a species. We want because we are driven by our brains demand for the happy hormones which the brain was constructed to want. So we are in a way all plain junkies trying to chase a happiness high. No matter how much money we earn, save, win or spend, we will never have enough. That is why Bill Gates and Elon Musk show up at work everyday instead of lying on a beach with a cocktail in their hand.

On one hand, it makes life interested, on the other hand we are basically consuming for the sake of consuming. Roll Eyes

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September 30, 2023, 04:20:54 PM
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There are still many people who don't understand which needs are priority needs and which are non-priority needs, for example my little sister, she and her friends are already talking about buying an iPhone 15 when it comes out, honestly when i heard this i just shook my head, often people buy non-priority things just because they want to be recognized in their social circle even though if they are good friends, they definitely don't look at their friends based on the luxury items they own.  it doesn't matter if everyone wants to buy the things they really dream of, but the things that people must prioritize are savings, investment and also a stable income.

At this time most young people who work think of working only to buy the latest branded goods or follow the current association that always prioritizes style to look luxurious, few of them only think about the future to come, they work only to fulfill the current style with branded goods that they have which will give them satisfaction, great they only prioritize lifestyle to be seen by others even though there will be a future to come and must be prepared from now on.

There is nothing wrong with buying branded goods that they want for themselves but they also have to think about the future because they do not live in the present alone there is a period of time.

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September 30, 2023, 09:40:54 PM
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Please be aware that there are many needs. There are even what are called daily needs such as food, long-term needs and also sudden needs. We need to fulfill all of this and we need to prepare. And indeed, even if we spend the money we earn from working for one month, our needs still cannot be fully met. And indeed, sometimes as you get older, your needs continue to increase. In this case, instead of us being busy doing nonsense so that the government can reduce the price of goods. It would be better if what we do is to continue trying and improving our skills and knowledge so we can earn more money. And it is important for us to sort out the needs that we will fulfill, so that more important needs can take priority and our expenses can also be regular.

This is really true because our needs are the things we absolutely must have in order to live, such as food, transportation, and so on, and because the standard of living is rising so quickly, it is becoming increasingly difficult to meet even these fundamental needs.
Dependence on government employment is truly not advisable because most government occupations delay or withhold employees' payments for years in addition to offering unencouraging pay.

Based on the research I have made over the years, agriculture is one occupation that will satisfy your need to a certain level which is higher than what a government salary will satisfy.
Agriculture is very expensive to start and it involves a lot of risk but the return on the investment made is worth it.

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September 30, 2023, 09:59:24 PM
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There is a difference between needs and wants.  In most cases, the needs should be satisfied first, and wants can be ignored.  The needs are essential for surviving while wants are just luxuries.  Depending on the capability of a person especially his wage capacity, most needs can't even be met, even basic needs are hard to meet these days due to price inflation.  So it is better to look for another source of income if we want to satisfy ourseleves and meet the extra baggage (wants) in life.

That is why you can't meet all your wants even if you use all of your salary. The more you fuel your wants the more they burn meaning if you buy a new phone because it is the latest and new to the market you will still not be satisfied after a new phone is released after a week and it will continue the cycle.

People are shaken already now because of the price of food or anything that you need to buy. That is why others tend to not easily buy their wants and they already knew that they would struggle if they prioritized their wants first. Unless you have extra money that you don't know how to spend or you are rich then for sure they are still going for their wants instead of their needs.
If we can control ourselves from our desires then the income we earn will be sufficient for us, but if we follow our desires too often then whatever income we get will certainly make us unable to save let alone invest from the salary we have. Being able to control our desires will indeed be very easy if we hear it from motivators, but to do it all depends on our own personality, we need to work hard to be able to do it. You are right that people who have a lot of wealth buy things not for their needs but because they need recognition from people that they can have it and it doesn't matter how much money they spend.
Budgeting and planning would really be that crucial and its true that things could really be just that fine if you are really that responsible towards your spending because if you do have that principle on living according into your means that you wont really be putting up yourself into such kind of trouble.People arent really just that contented on what they do have and they do aim for more. Its not really that bad on having those kind of aims or targets in life as long you do work hard for it on achieving and not really just trying out to upgrade your lifestyle already without having that sufficient sustain from your income because it would really be bringing up that kind of disaster which you dont really like to happen because you would soon realize that you are already on deep debt and this is something that must be avoided.

Control your desires and save it for later on the time that you do see that you are already that making sufficient income neither coming from income sources or simply that means
that you could already afford then this is the time that you would be needing to consider.

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September 30, 2023, 10:34:47 PM
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I do not think that the needs and desires of any human will ever be reached. It's nobodies fault but it is just how we are built as a species. We want because we are driven by our brains demand for the happy hormones which the brain was constructed to want. So we are in a way all plain junkies trying to chase a happiness high. No matter how much money we earn, save, win or spend, we will never have enough. That is why Bill Gates and Elon Musk show up at work everyday instead of lying on a beach with a cocktail in their hand.

On one hand, it makes life interested, on the other hand we are basically consuming for the sake of consuming. Roll Eyes

I agree since human don't ever get contented, they strive for more whenever they reach their goal.  Like when one is planning to buy an expensive mobile phone, once it has been bought, that person will have another plan of buying something.  It never ends.  That is why @OP is correct when he stated that salary is never enough to meet people's desires though I believe salary can meet all the needs of a person.  Anything that is not in the list of basic needs is all luxury and desires, and that is what a person's salary can't meet at once.

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