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September 21, 2023, 06:23:46 PM
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I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
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September 21, 2023, 06:31:00 PM
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If a certain user posts a thread that was very obviously made solely to try to farm merits, then that user should and will receive criticism from everyone — REGARDLESS OF RANK. It's really not the rank — it's the fact that a lot of users here can smell BS from a mile a way.

It's always been the "here's how to create a good post" and "here's how to earn merit" people; a lot of people here are kind enough to ask very basic Bitcoin/crypto-related questions.

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September 21, 2023, 06:38:55 PM
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I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.
Newbies also supposed to know that they are newbies. If they are not corrected, this forum may lack the quality posts it supposed to have. Newbies should accept how this forum is and learn in the process. Without the politeness that you called harshness, some newbies may not become better. As long as the quality of posts are there, this forum is good how it is. No matter how harsh some experienced members may be, members are not the same and some newbies are growing.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
People can not be the same. Newbies that will rank up will rank up and remember the past when they are corrected. You should know that newbies will become established members too if they accept corrections. When they become established members, they will understand better. Rank up and you will understand.

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September 21, 2023, 06:39:52 PM
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This is a public forum filled with people with different perspectives and from different places, so one thing I found helpful is that what you feel like is offensive or insulting might just be a way that person communicates from there side. So just like i have read other members say, one needs to grow a very thick skin here but if you continue to get upset by the way some members communicate then it would be best to actually ignore them, that is if you also are not repeating a mistake all round that got everyone pissed like creating multiple threads without any proper information or any thing substantial and help in them

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September 21, 2023, 07:07:25 PM
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Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.
You really have to develop a thick skin to be on the internet. You cannot expect cordial communication from strangers on the internet, so it is better to try not to be affected by them.
Many of the users here in my observation keep communication civil except for a few trolls. Blunt communication is not harsh or abusive.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
There are so much repetitive low value posts, which contributes to some of the replies that people get on their threads.

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September 21, 2023, 07:14:49 PM
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I agree and disagree with you. Sometimes it's annoying to see same questions repeated all over again and again. But I understand that's not worth to expect that all newbies will use search before asking.
But I agree with thoughts above that these posts often is made to hunt merits. Or that questions is asked from alt account of someone who is in signature campaign. Such kind of topics is great place for signature spammers to reach their post quota easier with some generic answer.
And advice for newbies and everyone in general. If you sensitively react to what was said about you, you have to grow thicker skin.

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September 21, 2023, 07:18:36 PM
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I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
If you expect everybody to treat you with a soft hand, then it means you are not yet ready for a public forum, more or less a forum like bitcointalk that is globally connected. Because just as a wise man once said that "What Doesn't Break You, Make You", when people criticize your post as a newbie, it's advisable to analyze why a member said what they said about your post, and not take it personal, but rather work on yourself, get conversant with the forum & it's rules, and try to always be on the safer side, why you do more reading than posting, since you are just a newbie and you have a whole lot to learn.

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September 21, 2023, 07:24:19 PM
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It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
Yes respect to real newbies maybe yes. But like others said. There were new users or beginners account whom seems to be faking as newbie and yet trying to farm merits. Well its hard to tell actually nowadays but they knew somehow. I dont act rude or harsh when it comes to newbie or fake newbies. But if the topics is really an old one or been used or asked many times. This is where the part you lecture or at leadt say something about the forum rules.

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September 21, 2023, 07:30:13 PM
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The forum's established members always appreciate newcomers who have been really seeking to learn from here. There is no reason to criticise newcomers unless they create merit-seeking threads. Because newcomers always need to focus on learning, not earning or merits. Yes, experienced members don't appreciate farmers and spammers. So it's very important to respect forum rules and set your goal to become an established member. Just ignoring criticism is the best way.

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September 21, 2023, 07:46:36 PM
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I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


 For anyone who wants to learn, you have to  accept criticism because that's how you learn and become better. I am also a newbie but many like me really want to post and not read or learn.
We all need merit to grow but some informations that have been posted long before now are still enquired by newbies and that makes some senior colleagues feel that we newbies are lazy to read. I advise we ignore the tune, take the corrections, read, learn, gather more information on the new things learnt from other internet materials. I must confess that this platform is very educative.
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September 21, 2023, 07:53:21 PM
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This is a large community with people from different places, different background with different attitude, so you don't expect everyone to accept whatever you post here that is to fish merit not to criticize you. I don't really see the forum from your own side, like you said. Instead ,I see the forum as a place where correction and motivation is.

Whatever critics that you get here is to help you work on yourself to become better, if you are here to learn, because anybody that corrects you or criticize you loves you and that is why they are telling you, so that you can take it as a challenge to improve yourself. Don't allow whatever forum members say to affect your emotionally, you should try to have a thick skin, for you to learn and grow in the forum.

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I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

Everyone is given a fair chance to grow on bitcointalk, we all have one thing in common that binds us here and that is bitcoin. Newbies have a limited understanding of the forum and as much interpret criticism as abuse and believe they are being bullied because of their rank. But truth be told, if high rank members made the same posts as these newbies, they would get the same reaction from the community. So let’s stop the pity party and focus on improving ourselves.

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It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


First of all, not every newbie is a newcomer to bitcointalk most of the newbie accounts are created with the purpose of asking silly questions over and over again just to troll everyone around. And people who are experienced enough to understand these trolls pick them up and give the best possible experience for them which they deserve to have.

Secondly, this is an online forum so if you are coming here then obviously you need to get thicker skin that is the only to accept the criticism about them and grow up beyond that.

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September 21, 2023, 08:11:01 PM
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I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


I honestly have never seen this reaction from senior users (excluding of course in lending section or when faced with scams attempts).
Most senior are reluctant to provide always the same answer to most of questions: have you searched before?

In general, many users have found a lot of information on their own, without having to constantly ask. Or at least... they used the search function at their beginning!

Be able to verify an information by yourself and finding original source is also part of "the right approach" Wink

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September 21, 2023, 08:28:24 PM
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At first, you should know that people are very different and as such tends to react in some ways that you think is not pleasing. This is a public place where people of different perspective meets. If you as a newbie is bullied, you should take see it as one of the random things and experience attached to it. Feel free to relate with others to tap more from their knowledge but sometimes too newbies cam be this funny though. They just do things not contrary to the rules and when they are scolded, they start crying foul pointing at their hands at their seniors of being way too hard and harsh on them.

OP I was thinking you were talking or complaining out of your own personal experience not until I read through and it looks like you are just trying to see members response to clear your doubt. I was expecting you to tell us about your experience of be truly you have had such experience here before.

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September 21, 2023, 08:28:32 PM
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I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.
I think we as beginners in this forum don't need to worry too much and don't need to be hurt if we receive criticism from other members that we may not be able to accept the method or language of criticism from members of this forum.
Everyone has a different character and not everyone can express input or criticism in a good way that we can accept. We can't demand someone to give criticism in the way we like, right!?

In my opinion, we as beginners should be able to adapt to this forum because in fact the more senior members still care about our development and progress as beginners here by giving us criticism so that we can change our mistakes.
In all my time on this forum I have never encountered a criticism that was too harsh or extreme. All the criticism I encounter on this forum is still reasonable in my opinion.
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I think genuine newbies will do a search first before posting anything.  Since newbies may not be familiar with how the forum functions, they need to read more.  If a newbie reads more, then he should have noticed all the threads created about the forum rules, making quality posts, and other basic information and with that, they don't have to ask questions that were answered a gazillion times already.  I actually think that these accounts that post and ask the same question again and again are pretending to be a newbie.  Aside from that, it is really tiring to answer the same questions again and again.

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I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

I understand how you feel about that but you need to know that you don't expect everyone here to have almost the same attitude towards you. People comes from different backgrounds with different way we think. If you write a post and you notice that people are talking to you anyhow, it is better you avoid them and going about you life than to see that as a threat. No one is here to inflict pains on others so you just need to avoid such kind of pain that reply your post anyhow. That would be better than finding the post as a threat to your mental health.

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I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
This is a public space and we all come from different parts of the world, from different backgrounds and you don't expect everyone to treat you the same way. If you are not ready to stand the criticism and harsh treatment here, then Bitcointalk is not for you. We've an adage in my local dialect which simply says what cannot kill you makes you stronger. As a newbie, you must learn to take the stones with the lessons, learn to observe, try to post less, learn to read more and you will be fine.

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I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


All you stated is the truth and every reasonable user of this group should understand and agree with you, but I am sorry that things are not so here. No one cautions anyone to treat anyone with leniency, rather they will advice you to grow a think skin.
It is not even experienced members that are the problems. I have noticed some new generation newbies who managed to pack merits easily to rank up, these are the set that are very harsh on newbies. They are barely 1 year in the forum but they attack and abuse newcomers at any slight chance.
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