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September 21, 2023, 11:27:24 PM
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Hello bitcointalk Smiley

i have an old account with donator rank

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=67181

please help me to unban and sorry for my bad english

thanks a lot

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September 21, 2023, 11:30:46 PM
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Oh, how can you prove that it's yours. Any staked address and signed message? What's the reason of the banned too and when, i'm referring the PM you have received.

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September 21, 2023, 11:44:35 PM
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Why did it take you so long to apply for a ban appeal? The account that you requested to have unbanned was last posted on April 9, 2015, and you changed the password of the account on January 18, 2019.

According to . Bpip and this account you are using to apply for an appeal has been active since 2019, which means you have been aware that this account has been banned for a long time now, so why request an appeal today? Why did it happen all this time? I was just asking out of curiosity

And looking at your account through . Ninjastic I can't find any address attached to it; unless you posted your address, this tool was not yet active. I wish you luck with your appeal.

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September 21, 2023, 11:56:21 PM
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Oh, how can you prove that it's yours. Any staked address and signed message?
The account has never posted any bitcoin address whatsoever, so looks like OP might find it had to prove that it is his. One similarity though is that it used to post in the french board just like OP's account

I wounder what kind of ban OP is talking about
1. Temporarily ban
2. Account lock due to the 2015 mass account hacking?
3. Account lock due to an attempt to recover account via secret question?

It certainly isn't a permanent ban.

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September 22, 2023, 12:09:43 AM
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You guys are incredibly responsive. I might try to sign a transaction with the key that allowed me to donate 5 BTC to Bitcointalk. But that goes way back. It doesn't seem simple to me!

During that time, I talked a lot about Ripple, and XRP wasn't well-received on Bitcointalk. I irritated some people and ended up "trolling," which resulted in a ban. This must have been around 2013 or 2014.

I tried several times (in 2014, 2018, and 2022, i have many mp's with différents moderators, i can post it) to recover this account by questioning the moderators of the French section. It was only tonight that n email "locked_2019_vuhnu" asked me to create this kind of thread in this section. What I am finally doing... I know, it's late!

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September 22, 2023, 01:52:52 AM
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You guys are incredibly responsive. I might try to sign a transaction with the key that allowed me to donate 5 BTC to Bitcointalk. But that goes way back. It doesn't seem simple to me!
If you can sign a Bitcoin message from the Bitcoin address you donated 5 BTC to the forum, it is good proof for your account recovery. Forum admins can ask you more questions to verify you are real owner of the Donator account or just a new owner (hacker or who bought that account).

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During that time, I talked a lot about Ripple, and XRP wasn't well-received on Bitcointalk. I irritated some people and ended up "trolling," which resulted in a ban. This must have been around 2013 or 2014.
Be banned for trolling is very barely applied if it does not have something like personal doxing etc.

I only knew GameProtect was banned by trolling + doxing. He trolled many years but was not banned until days he switched to doxing.

Read rules.

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September 22, 2023, 03:12:15 AM
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I don't know if your account will really be unbanned. But before going to the step of unbanning the account you should first prove the ownership of the account. Ownership of your account can be proven by signing messages to the Bitcoin address from the Bitcoin wallet you donated to this forum. Secondly, you can explain the reason why your account was banned and if your reason is not valid, you can explain it here as proof.  In this case maybe the Bitcointalk authorities can consider it and you can get a chance to be unbanned because you donated to this forum. Try to get noticed by mprep and Theymos

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Be banned for trolling is very barely applied if it does not have something like personal doxing etc.

It seems to be something that used to happen in the early years of the forum and hasn't happened for years.

But on the other hand, am I the only one who sees a confession of ban evading in this thread?

If the OP was banned he was only allowed to create an account to exclusively appeal the ban, not to create this one, be using it on the forum normally for many years and now show up here saying he wants to get the banned account back.

By the way, I've been looking at the post history of the banned account and I see some little pearls:

bitcoin is so dead...

bitcoin is an endless bear market it won't stop until everyone realize bitcoin is doomed. Bitcoin foundation failure shows it.

Bitcoin is so overvaluated, 50$ comuing

Bitcoin is poisoned to go below 50$


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September 22, 2023, 03:50:02 AM
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I didn't see the banned status on BPIP, I thought it was just a temporary ban. Can you share a screenshot of the ban message on your donator account?
To emphasize the rules, you are not allowed to post outside the meta board with alt-accounts as long as one of them is banned.

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I only knew GameProtect was banned by trolling + doxing. He trolled many years but was not banned until days he switched to doxing.
He was permbanned for plagiarized.

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September 22, 2023, 04:23:55 AM
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Given today's standards, its hard to believe the account was banned for trolling, but if memory serves I did receive a temp ban for such a thing once in 2014. For reference, user proudhon has been trolling the WO thread for the better part of a decade  Cheesy

You guys are incredibly responsive. I might try to sign a transaction with the key that allowed me to donate 5 BTC to Bitcointalk. But that goes way back. It doesn't seem simple to me!

You might also see if you still have access to your old Ripple addresses; signing a message with one of those would work equally well. Seems like you used this one a few times:

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September 22, 2023, 04:43:06 AM
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I don't think your account is banned, probably locked.

I tried several times (in 2014, 2018, and 2022, i have many mp's with différents moderators, i can post it) to recover this account by questioning the moderators of the French section. It was only tonight that n email "locked_2019_vuhnu" asked me to create this kind of thread in this section. What I am finally doing... I know, it's late!
if your account is banned or locked shouldn't there be a message showing an email where you can appeal your ban or start the recovery of your account if it is locked? what does it message show when you open your account?

check this thread Recovering hacked/lost accounts

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I only knew GameProtect was banned by trolling + doxing. He trolled many years but was not banned until days he switched to doxing.
He was permbanned for plagiarized.
game-protect wasn't banned because of plagiarism, he kept posting until March 2020. I saw a post from suchmoon(quoted below) saying that game-protect spammed the same post on different gambling threads before he was banned, so I think he was banned for spamming, doxing and trolling probably had put some weight on the decision for his ban.

The OP has been permabanned. He was trying hard to earn that ban - posted about 10 of these messages yesterday in random gambling threads. Not sure if that did it but with two prior temp bans it was about time.

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September 22, 2023, 06:37:27 AM
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It just seems to be locked due to inactivity/being possibly compromised. If you can sign a message it can be unlocked.

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September 22, 2023, 06:39:53 AM
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During that time, I talked a lot about Ripple, and XRP wasn't well-received on Bitcointalk. I irritated some people and ended up "trolling," which resulted in a ban. This must have been around 2013 or 2014.
Be banned for trolling is very barely applied if it does not have something like personal doxing etc.

I only knew GameProtect was banned by trolling + doxing. He trolled many years but was not banned until days he switched to doxing.

Read rules.
You never can tell how it was  on the older days. I understand that your account was registered in 2017 which is old enough but I have this feeling that things were strick then. You might get yourself banned for talking good about altcoins and talking bad about bitcoin.

Op, your account is a donator account. The admin will be very happy to make you recover this account only if you can prove that you own the account.

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I might try to sign a transaction with the key that allowed me to donate 5 BTC to Bitcointalk. But that goes way back. It doesn't seem simple to me!
It was 10 BTC, right?

Assuming you still have your wallet, it's easy to sign.
You should never delete a wallet.

It just seems to be locked due to ~ being possibly compromised.
Or this. If you don't know how much you donated, and can't sign a message, maybe the account wasn't yours in the first place.

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By the way, I've been looking at the post history of the banned account and I see some little pearls:

bitcoin is so dead...
bitcoin is an endless bear market it won't stop until everyone realize bitcoin is doomed. Bitcoin foundation failure shows it.
Bitcoin is so overvaluated, 50$ comuing
Bitcoin is poisoned to go below 50$
Some messages don't age well Smiley

It just seems to be locked due to inactivity/being possibly compromised. If you can sign a message it can be unlocked.
Odd, I found messages from 2013 in the Staff section asking for his ban for trolling.
But the "locked_2019_vuhnu" email might indicate that it's not a ban. But he said himself that he was trolling

What I am finally doing... I know, it's late!
It's never too late, but your priority would be to persuade the admins/GMs to unban your account after all this time. Why do you want this account back ? How would this account benefit the bitcointalk community ?

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You never can tell how it was  on the older days. I understand that your account was registered in 2017 which is old enough but I have this feeling that things were strick then. You might get yourself banned for talking good about altcoins and talking bad about bitcoin.
There was no time in the forum when someone will have gotten banned for talking bad about Bitcoin and hyping up altcoins as long as you kept the conversation constructive. There is a whole section for altcoins with different boards where one can discuss freely about them.

Op, your account is a donator account. The admin will be very happy to make you recover this account only if you can prove that you own the account.
An account will not be unbanned caused it's a donator account without any reason to overturn the ban.

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By the way, I've been looking at the post history of the banned account and I see some little pearls:

bitcoin is so dead...
bitcoin is an endless bear market it won't stop until everyone realize bitcoin is doomed. Bitcoin foundation failure shows it.
Bitcoin is so overvaluated, 50$ comuing
Bitcoin is poisoned to go below 50$
Some messages don't age well Smiley
Proudhon mode: time will tell who's right on this one Cheesy

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It just seems to be locked due to inactivity/being possibly compromised. If you can sign a message it can be unlocked.
Odd, I found messages from 2013 in the Staff section asking for his ban for trolling.
But the "locked_2019_vuhnu" email might indicate that it's not a ban. But he said himself that he was trolling

Maybe it was just a temp ban. You're unlikely to get permabanned for trolling unless you've had multiple warnings and bans and still won't stop.

Edit. It seems there is actually two bans on the account. The other is for "Alt currencies content outside of Alt currencies board" which doesn't have an expiration date. Maybe one was forgotten to be put in because that also is unlikely to get you a permaban unless you're a serial repeat offender. Either way, op is going to have to sign a message if he wants the account unlocking.

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~Snip~

After reading some posts of your  account I found that you were trying to promote XRP and demote Bitcoin. You even tried to defame Bitcoin many times for Ripple which is still nothing when you compare it with Bitcoin and it'll always be nothing in comparison of Bitcoin.


~Snip~
There was no time in the forum when someone will have gotten banned for talking bad about Bitcoin and hyping up altcoins as long as you kept the conversation constructive. There is a whole section for altcoins with different boards where one can discuss freely about them.
You're right but if someone trolls about Bitcoin every time then such trolls may not be acceptable in a forum that's mostly about Bitcoin. The worst thing is that when such people with less knowledge about Bitcoin try to demote or defame it in order to promote those shit-coins that are nothing when compared to Bitcoin. I guess the @OP was also aware of his actions and that's why he said there was trolling going on his account in those days. Although, this forum is the best place where you can have freedom of speech but still everything has some limits and when someone crosses those limits then he/she will have to bear the consequences.


Op, your account is a donator account. The admin will be very happy to make you recover this account only if you can prove that you own the account.

I think OP already has access to that account and he doesn't need any kind of account recovery at all. The account is in his own possession but it's banned or locked and that's why OP has posted this ban appeal thread. He won't get unbanned or unlocked for some reasons but if he can prove that he is the owner of the account then he may get his account unbanned or unlocked. But, still we will have to find the reason of his ban and if he was banned for another thing other than trolling then his chances of getting unbanned are pretty low.


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I only knew GameProtect was banned by trolling + doxing. He trolled many years but was not banned until days he switched to doxing.
He was permbanned for plagiarized.
Thank you. I was wrong partially but GameProtect was a target of many members before that ban. Many questions from community why the user was not banned after all of his circus around. Finally, he made a mistake and was banned (I missed the last reason for his ban).

One member was banned for doxing is humanrightsfoundation, this case is surely correct recalled. That thread is still better from the one leads to his ban, doxing theymos directly.

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OP is that account really yours? Because to me if that account is yours you would have reported it or created this thread a long time ago not in this era😅, like I checked, the last time the owner (I mean your account) dropped a post was 2015. Since then till now you waited for who or what before complaining?
Well, if you really value that account as you said is yours you would have started complaining earlier and not now but from the look of things is like the account isn't banned or maybe you don't have access it, in terms of changing password or something.
As I'm typing things are getting into my head about this account issue, apologies but have to say it, is it that you made a deal with someone like you bought the account but the password or email wasn't given to you due to some issues between you and the seller and you decide to come here for help, right? This is kinda confusing, what's your offense that made them ban your account as you think?

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It seems to be something that used to happen in the early years of the forum and hasn't happened for years.

But on the other hand, am I the only one who sees a confession of ban evading in this thread?
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The OP mentioned that his donator account was banned around 2013 and 2014. Upon reviewing the OP's profile, I observed that it was created on January 2, 2014. If his donator account was banned after this date (January 2), we can dispel the suspicion that this case involves ban evasion.

Fortunately, hilariousandco confirmed that it can be unlocked, which is good news for him.

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The OP mentioned that his donator account was banned around 2013 and 2014. Upon reviewing the OP's profile, I observed that it was created on January 2, 2014. If his donator account was banned after this date (January 2), we can dispel the suspicion that this case involves ban evasion.

When he created the second account is not relevant. Bans apply to people not just to accounts.

If what you say were true, those who come to the forum to break the rules with premeditation would only have to create a dozen accounts on the same day and start using the last one. Then when they were banned from that account they could move on to using the second to last one without evading ban, and so on.

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He answered bascially all of your questions if you only bothered to read what he wrote so I suggest you to read those few posts of his in this thread again.

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OP should be active here so that's its become easy to understand the case and give possible advice to unbanned the account. Now reading the whole story and reply of the seniors, Op should now clear that this is Temp ban or Permanent because if this ban is due to inactivity or using bad words than chances of temp-ban is high. Op is requested to give screenshot to make it clear.

Now OP has you have BTC or Ripple account available which you used for donating ?

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It just seems to be locked due to inactivity/being possibly compromised. If you can sign a message it can be unlocked.
Odd, I found messages from 2013 in the Staff section asking for his ban for trolling.
But the "locked_2019_vuhnu" email might indicate that it's not a ban. But he said himself that he was trolling

Maybe it was just a temp ban. You're unlikely to get permabanned for trolling unless you've had multiple warnings and bans and still won't stop.

Edit. It seems there is actually two bans on the account. The other is for "Alt currencies content outside of Alt currencies board" which doesn't have an expiration date. Maybe one was forgotten to be put in because that also is unlikely to get you a permaban unless you're a serial repeat offender. Either way, op is going to have to sign a message if he wants the account unlocking.

There is no single wallet associated with this account found, and no BTC address on his profile, so what and how will he sign a message to authenticate account ownership?

The original mail could be the only option at this point.

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You might also see if you still have access to your old Ripple addresses; signing a message with one of those would work equally well. Seems like you used this one a few times:

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The question is, is it possible to sign a message from a ripple address, just like it is with bitcoin and Ethereum? I have done a quick search and there isn't much information, plus things look too complicated  Grin

One thing that makes me wonder is who could just forget about their donator account and just continue using a lower ranked account for all that long without appealing.

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You guys are incredibly responsive. I might try to sign a transaction with the key that allowed me to donate 5 BTC to Bitcointalk. But that goes way back. It doesn't seem simple to me!

During that time, I talked a lot about Ripple, and XRP wasn't well-received on Bitcointalk. I irritated some people and ended up "trolling," which resulted in a ban. This must have been around 2013 or 2014.

I tried several times (in 2014, 2018, and 2022, i have many mp's with différents moderators, i can post it) to recover this account by questioning the moderators of the French section. It was only tonight that n email "locked_2019_vuhnu" asked me to create this kind of thread in this section. What I am finally doing... I know, it's late!

If you can sign a message with another coin that would also help. If you've got addresses in your PMs they could also be used if we can verify them.



Maybe it was just a temp ban. You're unlikely to get permabanned for trolling unless you've had multiple warnings and bans and still won't stop.

Edit. It seems there is actually two bans on the account. The other is for "Alt currencies content outside of Alt currencies board" which doesn't have an expiration date. Maybe one was forgotten to be put in because that also is unlikely to get you a permaban unless you're a serial repeat offender. Either way, op is going to have to sign a message if he wants the account unlocking.

There is no single wallet associated with this account found, and no BTC address on his profile, so what and how will he sign a message to authenticate account ownership?

He probably can't so he's probably SOL but it's best messaging the recovery team to try work it out.

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September 23, 2023, 09:50:06 AM
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You guys are incredibly responsive. I might try to sign a transaction with the key that allowed me to donate 5 BTC to Bitcointalk. But that goes way back. It doesn't seem simple to me!

It's easy with Bitcoin Core bitcoin-cli: Just call createwallet and make sure you tell it to create a legacy wallet, that will allow you to sign messages, then use importprivkey, and finally use signmessage.

You might also see if you still have access to your old Ripple addresses; signing a message with one of those would work equally well. Seems like you used this one a few times:

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The question is, is it possible to sign a message from a ripple address, just like it is with bitcoin and Ethereum? I have done a quick search and there isn't much information, plus things look too complicated  Grin

One thing that makes me wonder is who could just forget about their donator account and just continue using a lower ranked account for all that long without appealing.

You can, apparently.

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