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October 09, 2023, 03:17:15 PM
Last edit: October 09, 2023, 11:30:08 PM by Youngkhngdiddy
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Sometimes, as we know, there are still many beginners that we find on this forum who don't know the best way to stay safe when gambling, therefore of course this thread can help them to find valuable messages and warnings for them before starting to gamble, there are lots of messages which was captured by the OP in order to ensure that beginners can stay safe when gambling so that it is not easy for novice gamblers to fall deeper, let alone become addicted to gambling.

We probably know that there are too many warning threads and messages in this gambling forum board and it is difficult for them to find them, therefore the OP made it easy to make it an easy way for beginners to be able to read them carefully, this way can reduce the population of gamblers who become addicts, at least help reduce such gamblers little by little.

  Over the decade, the gambling world has seen a significant shift towards online casino. As technology advances and society becomes more digitally oriented, the online casino experience becomes increasingly immersive and realistic making it an attractive option. Unlike traditional brick and mortar casino, online casino offer greater convenience. With the freedom and flexibility that online gambling offers come the need for cautious and responsibility. Responsible gambling is an essential concept that is crucial in promoting healthy and safe gambling practices.
  It encompasses a set of principles aimed at preventing and minimizing gambling- related harm, such as addiction. Some critical elements of responsible gambling include self regulation, clear communication and informed decision making. One need to play a crucial role in upholding responsible gambling practices, such as setting limits in time and money spent on gambling, avoid chasing losses and seeking help when experiencing gambling-related issues.
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October 09, 2023, 06:53:11 PM
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Asking for KYC after you win money doesn't justify facts that the casino is a scam casino, why are people so hated KYC this much? Someone in his right state of mind should understand that KYC is very compulsory for a functioning casino, you win money and they ask you to pass KYC is very normal, if you aren't going to pass KYC do not gamble on any online casinos because every casinos are entitled to ask their customers for KYC verification.
There is a percentage of people in the crypto universe who say that privacy is the very first thing that they want and that is the reason why they are using cryptocurrencies because it promotes privacy, and they expect the same thing from cryptocurrency casinos that they shouldn't be asked to provide any personal identification for using their services.

The best approach with casinos is choosing the ones with well built reputation, the popular the casino is the more reviews you will find online about them, problems mostly rises from new online casinos, they might be lacking money and you wont know, when you win some it will be hard for them to pay you, also they have less to none reputation available, that's why this forum is a good source for picking your next online gambling platform.
Well, online reviews can sometimes be misleading, take TrustPilot as an example, it is a review website that is full of fake and manipulated reviews and because of that, even the scam casinos have got a good trust score on the website which obviously isn't good.

Using this forum put you at a halfway journey about doing research on casinos or choosing the good casinos out of the legions of bad online casinos, mind you even casinos on this forum mostly ask for KYC verification too, gamblers can't escape KYC verification just like that because it's included by the law for casinos to ask KYC information from all their customers.
One should ask for user reviews or ratings regarding certain platforms so that they can get feedback from those who have already used that platform and has personal experience which is the best way to know if a casino is good or not.

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October 09, 2023, 08:00:50 PM
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You can diversify your funds in various casinos so that if at any cost, your gambling account gets closed for any reason by a certain casino, at least you're good to play at the other one. This way, there is also less chance of getting asked for KYC because the sums of the funds will be divided by the number of casinos you will keep your coins at. Or you can just play with part of your funds at a casino and if you face any difficulty playing there, then wait till your deposit is returned by them and till then, go ahead for another casino.


One should ask for user reviews or ratings regarding certain platforms so that they can get feedback from those who have already used that platform and has personal experience which is the best way to know if a casino is good or not.

I have seen many comments claiming that the review/feedback system can be manipulated and exploited and they don't prefer it, but then I'd like to ask them that who can they trust then? If everything in this world can be/is manipulated, then what can they put their trust on?

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October 10, 2023, 02:31:30 AM
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Asking for KYC after you win money doesn't justify facts that the casino is a scam casino, why are people so hated KYC this much? Someone in his right state of mind should understand that KYC is very compulsory for a functioning casino, you win money and they ask you to pass KYC is very normal, if you aren't going to pass KYC do not gamble on any online casinos because every casinos are entitled to ask their customers for KYC verification.

The best approach with casinos is choosing the ones with well built reputation, the popular the casino is the more reviews you will find online about them, problems mostly rises from new online casinos, they might be lacking money and you wont know, when you win some it will be hard for them to pay you, also they have less to none reputation available, that's why this forum is a good source for picking your next online gambling platform.

Using this forum put you at a halfway journey about doing research on casinos or choosing the good casinos out of the legions of bad online casinos, mind you even casinos on this forum mostly ask for KYC verification too, gamblers can't escape KYC verification just like that because it's included by the law for casinos to ask KYC information from all their customers.
That's because we just gamble and don't expect to win a lot of money. And if we win a lot of money due to luck, we should be able to withdraw the winning money. But unfortunately, conditions have changed, and regulators are trying to implement stricter regulations. This makes casinos also need to ask their customers for KYC to find out the people who gamble at their casinos.

Yes, choosing a trusted casino is a way to avoid increasing scam casinos. And we also have to be careful when we come across a new casino that has been released because with the increasing number of scam cases from new casinos, we have to be able to ensure that the casino can be trusted. And this forum is a good source for choosing that trusted casino. We also know which trusted casinos are on this forum, especially since we already have a list of casinos.

And that means gamblers also have to prepare themselves if the casino asks them to do KYC at any time. If gamblers don't like it, they should be able to limit themselves from gambling with big money, which is in accordance with the purpose of gambling, namely just having fun.

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October 10, 2023, 04:54:17 AM
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One should ask for user reviews or ratings regarding certain platforms so that they can get feedback from those who have already used that platform and has personal experience which is the best way to know if a casino is good or not.

I have seen many comments claiming that the review/feedback system can be manipulated and exploited and they don't prefer it, but then I'd like to ask them that who can they trust then? If everything in this world can be/is manipulated, then what can they put their trust on?
Indeed there are lots of sites that have history of reviews or reviews that have been manipulated by paying shill accounts to always give good reviews or even high ratings and we have to be smart in choosing which sites are the most reliable and trustworthy because not all them will carry out manipulation for the benefit of the site itself.
If you just want to look for site that probably won't manipulate you look for the most popular sites that are already big so you can be sure they are safe to use and that it is impossible to manipulate customer reviews.

Don't assume that because there are several sites that are cheating you don't trust all the existing sites because there are still many sites that have successfully developed and have even been proven to have loyal customers or very large communities.
Here in this forum there are lots of trusted sites so you can choose one or use all of them.

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October 10, 2023, 05:49:05 AM
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What do you mean by games? Separate account for each games on a single casino? I think it's not right
He means a separate email and phone number for gambling activities or any platform where you sign up for gambling. Creating a different account for every single game doesn't make any sense.

maybe separate account account for each casino. I'm talking about the email and phone number that is used on a casino.
You can use a separate email for each casino for better security because if one of your emails or gambling accounts get compromised, the others will be safe but it's not really necessary, and it will be difficult to have that many phone numbers if you are a gambler who tries every new platform.

It's not a bad way to avoid being hit by a catastrophic loss in case you account gets hacked but I think it is a hassle to have so many alternative email especially phone number where not every country can get multiple phone number.
One can buy and use virtual phone numbers, they are not that expensive and if someone wants more security, they will obviously need to spend some money for it.

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October 10, 2023, 07:59:04 AM
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Getting profit from casinos I think is never consistent because as people would think it is lucky, so it is the other way round but as a sensible individual,you should know when to quit gambling when the odd is clear to you to do so.

Every individual wants what's best for them but sometimes their emotions get in the way of making the right decision, they have been gambling and not making profits which should have made them to stop gambling but instead of stoping, they'll be thinking they can win the next bet and this continues until they run out of money. While common sense is common but not every individual has it, their addiction also makes it impossible for them to stop gambling.

Knowing when to stop gambling will always help us to avoid getting addicted and keep us safe, knowing when to stop means we have discipline and self control which will make us cautious and also avoid other things that leads gamblers to addiction. Knowing when to stop will make us not over gamble and exceed our budget.

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October 10, 2023, 08:03:00 AM
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It's not a bad way to avoid being hit by a catastrophic loss in case you account gets hacked but I think it is a hassle to have so many alternative email especially phone number where not every country can get multiple phone number.
One can buy and use virtual phone numbers, they are not that expensive and if someone wants more security, they will obviously need to spend some money for it.
Of course, you can use virtual phone numbers, but I think that this is not a very good solution if you compare it simply with buying a SiM card with a real phone number.  
Usually problems with virtual numbers arise if you have not used them for a while.  It may often come as a surprise to you that such a number stops working.  You just need to take into account that those organizations that sell such numbers may be too unreliable and may either go bankrupt or simply disappear along with your numbers.  A physical SIM card is much more reliable, but there are usually problems with anonymity when purchasing it.  And the official seller requires verification of the buyer’s identity.  
This is of course inconvenient.  But this is much more reliable than virtual phone numbers.

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It's not a bad way to avoid being hit by a catastrophic loss in case you account gets hacked but I think it is a hassle to have so many alternative email especially phone number where not every country can get multiple phone number.
One can buy and use virtual phone numbers, they are not that expensive and if someone wants more security, they will obviously need to spend some money for it.
Of course, you can use virtual phone numbers, but I think that this is not a very good solution if you compare it simply with buying a SiM card with a real phone number.  
Usually problems with virtual numbers arise if you have not used them for a while.  It may often come as a surprise to you that such a number stops working.  You just need to take into account that those organizations that sell such numbers may be too unreliable and may either go bankrupt or simply disappear along with your numbers.  A physical SIM card is much more reliable, but there are usually problems with anonymity when purchasing it.  And the official seller requires verification of the buyer’s identity.  
This is of course inconvenient.  But this is much more reliable than virtual phone numbers.
I don't like the idea of using your phone number or even if it's virtual for anything account related, the thing with sim cards is you aren't the only one seeing your code when you receive them, those people working in those network offices are also looking for money, they can be monitoring your messages and they can get access into your accounts, this days I found even email address to be more secured than sim card, because at least you can use 2FA code on your email account, I wish some thing like this is also possible with sim cards too.

Do not use your number to sign up and receive important log in codes, those who are a victim to sim swap don't know that it's from the network officers themselves, those who are smart knows that this is true, hungry monkeys are working in those sim cards company, do not trust any.

Also, I think it's stupid to leave your money on any gambling platform either big or small, because once in a while casinos can get hacked too and to my own knowledge about online casinos they do have poor security compare to crypto exchanges.
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Also, I think it's stupid to leave your money on any gambling platform either big or small, because once in a while casinos can get hacked too and to my own knowledge about online casinos they do have poor security compare to crypto exchanges.
Yes, especially some casinos that have recently disappeared like Betnomi, maybe some people who still left funds on their site have also disappeared, that's why I gamble with small bets because I don't want something like this to happen, we all know gambling sites at any time It could be hacked, especially exchange sites because nothing in this world is a secure system.

I'm still surprised that there are still many people who trust new sites and they make big deposits and then have problems with their money and then report them here, I wonder why they are so confident in making deposits and betting big money on new sites, sometimes it's strange with people like that even though all gambling sites are not so safe to keep all our money, always use money that is ready to lose, that is the most important

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I don't like the idea of using your phone number or even if it's virtual for anything account related, the thing with sim cards is you aren't the only one seeing your code when you receive them, those people working in those network offices are also looking for money, they can be monitoring your messages and they can get access into your accounts, this days I found even email address to be more secured than sim card, because at least you can use 2FA code on your email account, I wish some thing like this is also possible with sim cards too.

Do not use your number to sign up and receive important log in codes, those who are a victim to sim swap don't know that it's from the network officers themselves, those who are smart knows that this is true, hungry monkeys are working in those sim cards company, do not trust any.


Using a virtual number is not recommended to get an activation code, because if we don't renew the subscription, the number could be transferred to someone else. Even physical SIM cards in my country are recycled. People who register a cellphone number and then the number is not used will experience theft of the connected account. I once bought a new sim card, but the number I used was already registered on Facebook and other social media. The result, that I suddenly got the Facebook login OTP code for the old person who had the account, I tried to log in and succeeded in controlling the account. LOL.

Using email may be a strong reason for account and OTP security, but of course, as long as the server is not our own, the potential for other people to open the contents of the email exists. It could be that for legal reasons or whatever, the provider opens the email that we have. Some people believe if proton mail is the best email for privacy reason. but i don't know if it true or not. DYOR/DWYOR

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In that case they decide to go beyond their budget limit just to chase their losses with mindset of winning and when doing that, they keep losing more and more and this however results to addiction and it continues that way again and again.
Responsible gamblers don't do that, it's a practice done by amateurs who don't understand how things actually work and they don't have any idea about gambling in the first place, all they have ever thought was that they can earn a lot of money from gambling and it's as easy as drinking water which is not true and when they face the reality, they just can't accept it.
A responsible gambler can take care of himself and will not exceed his budget limits. And even though they have experienced defeat, they will not try to catch up because they want to recover their lost money. They realize it is difficult to do so they may prefer to stop gambling rather than risk an even bigger loss. It won't be worth what they will get later, especially since this is gambling where they might not get a bigger chance of winning. So it's better for them to gamble casually and try to enjoy it.
Of course, responsible gamblers don't really pursue the ambition to win at gambling, they use gambling only for entertainment, and yes, responsible gamblers can always set their limits when gambling so that they don't experience too many losses.


It is difficult for someone who is addicted to gambling to do this because they always try to win at gambling even if the result is nil they will continue to try until their balance runs out. This is very detrimental to oneself because they cannot create boundaries and cannot control themselves If the person doing this is already have a family it is very possible that it will have a negative impact on their financial condition.

Maybe there are gamblers doesn't really care about winning since they are playing because they want to have fun but if you really follow them do you think you can really say you enjoy if you lose your money? I guess that happiness will not exist especially if we are low ballers and we would provably feel the pain of losing our money in quick instances. Maybe other just manage their finances while gambling can really enjoy the game but for other its hard to feel that since they are looking to win. Maybe to practice safe bets or control each unwanted scenario best for each of us to know when to quit since this is only solution for us not to get hurt much when losing and totally be happy when we win.
There's no fun on losing money
There's no fun on depleting your account balance
There's no fun on on experiencing consecutive losses

Gambling should really be for fun but people do really go into certain extent on which it isnt a must thing to be done.Staying safe while gambling? In speaking about on technical aspects then it would really be
just that common sense that you do really need to avoid on exposing on whatever account information that you do have. Dont tend to be that too open or make them aware and 2fa is a must
or something that in default specially if you do have big money inside those account balance then it would really be just that a normal approach.

Speaking about getting safe from addiction? You would really be able to do such thing if you are really that sensible towards on how you do treat up gambling.
If its for fun then its just fine but if you are really that going for making money then this is where problem begins.

Well, in every casino, we must always understand something, casinos were invented to entertain people, when it is said that people have fun even though they spend or lose money, maybe someone says it because it is so, because at least I see the casino as a trading service, where basically we pay for a service and that service offers you to play, where if you are lucky enough your money is not lost but won, even though there is a clear house advantage and a series of factors that there are for us as players to lose, then these types of things are what we basically have to think about.

When a gambler thinks that when he enters a casino and if he bets a lot of money, his right is for the casino to return the money, or that he has the right to win, well, he is very wrong because things are not like that, things move From a bull's point of view, that's why we, as good players, always say that first of all the caisno e sun negicoi is a company, where obviously the Udeños must win, but it wouldn't make sense to start a business, no one is going to start a business to make losses. and the others are winning, things won't work like that, because for that you don't have anything to do with or have any business, then there will always be a clear vejta of the house.

When we as players understand this, we are basically saying that we accept the rules of the casino and that we can do many more things, but basically we cannot see how if the casino has a duty to us, the casino always offers many things, contests , bonuses, but all under conditions, so many say that it should not be like that, well maybe not, when you enter a treacherous case, the cases are different, there is no such thing, not even the KYC thing, only the identification, and that's what they ask of you, just exchange the money for chips and that's it, if you lose chips you lose money.


At first before registering on a casino, you have to read through their terms of service to be satisfied with it before going further to getting registered on that casino platform.  After that, you can commence other processes that qualifies and grants you access to play on the casino. Doing all these directly means that you have accepted every thing you have read about the casino and what ever decision they take your stay with them and they are not compelled in any  way to make explanations to you whatever the case maybe. All these should get stucked in your mind before moving further with the casino.

When it comes to gambling, it is known that we should gamble responsibly and with fun which means that wether you win or not, gambling is for fun and one should not have the mindset of always wanting to win at all cost because when one does that one would definitely be disappointed with the results they would get and that could make them start to chase their losses and it results to addiction.

Just like every other businesses, casinos are business ventures and as such are always wanting to make profit and would go to any extent just to get back their capital or funds lost. Even when there is discrepancies in a players record, they are not letting it go just like that. The ToS of the casino comes into play just to recover that funds they have there. So you see that they are just there for fun and funds as well. Players should know that too because they would need money to maintain the casino and pay their staff.

This is just the best thing to do, obviously sometimes we, including us, don't read, whatever the reason, sometimes out of laziness, because we want to register quickly, or for any other reason, the only thing here is that things sometimes don't They are done this way because basically when you think about playing a good game in the casino like winning, withdrawing is when we neither read nor do anything, so thanks to not reading the problems begin, because by not reading, we don't know what to do. comply with a KYC, things are at another level, because the KYC sometimes have or come by levels according to the amount of the certificate, sometimes they say terms and conditions regarding the bonuses to the contests and those are things that we We skip them, but we skip them because they are very long, I have always thought about something, every time you go to log in or when you go to register, that there are notices everywhere that those who do not perform KYC cannot withdraw, and Let them put a table where all the amounts and the KYC by level to be met are listed.

To avoid a lot of problems, also trying to use No-VPN, KYC is complied with, and it would be wonderful that any new user cannot play if they do not meet their requirement and then they can deposit, but I think that is too much, no casino policy I would accept it because obviously the players will not enter, but I think that despite this initiative, the players will say that the casino is transparent, or at least they will say that the casinos are honest and will not deceive them by saying that there is no KYC, and when it is their turn withdraw they ask for KYC, then they will tell you that sometimes KYC is requested at random, because then those things are breaking the guarantee, it is not healthy, and besides I am sure that they will lose a client, these things usually happen in some casinos and the truth is they don't care They have done nothing well, because they are not completely sincere and they make things complicated and cause them to never come back, besides the players have friends and speak badly to them about the casino, so it is not advisable to deceive.

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In that case they decide to go beyond their budget limit just to chase their losses with mindset of winning and when doing that, they keep losing more and more and this however results to addiction and it continues that way again and again.
Responsible gamblers don't do that, it's a practice done by amateurs who don't understand how things actually work and they don't have any idea about gambling in the first place, all they have ever thought was that they can earn a lot of money from gambling and it's as easy as drinking water which is not true and when they face the reality, they just can't accept it.
A responsible gambler can take care of himself and will not exceed his budget limits. And even though they have experienced defeat, they will not try to catch up because they want to recover their lost money. They realize it is difficult to do so they may prefer to stop gambling rather than risk an even bigger loss. It won't be worth what they will get later, especially since this is gambling where they might not get a bigger chance of winning. So it's better for them to gamble casually and try to enjoy it.
Of course, responsible gamblers don't really pursue the ambition to win at gambling, they use gambling only for entertainment, and yes, responsible gamblers can always set their limits when gambling so that they don't experience too many losses.


It is difficult for someone who is addicted to gambling to do this because they always try to win at gambling even if the result is nil they will continue to try until their balance runs out. This is very detrimental to oneself because they cannot create boundaries and cannot control themselves If the person doing this is already have a family it is very possible that it will have a negative impact on their financial condition.

Maybe there are gamblers doesn't really care about winning since they are playing because they want to have fun but if you really follow them do you think you can really say you enjoy if you lose your money? I guess that happiness will not exist especially if we are low ballers and we would provably feel the pain of losing our money in quick instances. Maybe other just manage their finances while gambling can really enjoy the game but for other its hard to feel that since they are looking to win. Maybe to practice safe bets or control each unwanted scenario best for each of us to know when to quit since this is only solution for us not to get hurt much when losing and totally be happy when we win.
There's no fun on losing money
There's no fun on depleting your account balance
There's no fun on on experiencing consecutive losses

Gambling should really be for fun but people do really go into certain extent on which it isnt a must thing to be done.Staying safe while gambling? In speaking about on technical aspects then it would really be
just that common sense that you do really need to avoid on exposing on whatever account information that you do have. Dont tend to be that too open or make them aware and 2fa is a must
or something that in default specially if you do have big money inside those account balance then it would really be just that a normal approach.

Speaking about getting safe from addiction? You would really be able to do such thing if you are really that sensible towards on how you do treat up gambling.
If its for fun then its just fine but if you are really that going for making money then this is where problem begins.

Well, in every casino, we must always understand something, casinos were invented to entertain people, when it is said that people have fun even though they spend or lose money, maybe someone says it because it is so, because at least I see the casino as a trading service, where basically we pay for a service and that service offers you to play, where if you are lucky enough your money is not lost but won, even though there is a clear house advantage and a series of factors that there are for us as players to lose, then these types of things are what we basically have to think about.

When a gambler thinks that when he enters a casino and if he bets a lot of money, his right is for the casino to return the money, or that he has the right to win, well, he is very wrong because things are not like that, things move From a bull's point of view, that's why we, as good players, always say that first of all the caisno e sun negicoi is a company, where obviously the Udeños must win, but it wouldn't make sense to start a business, no one is going to start a business to make losses. and the others are winning, things won't work like that, because for that you don't have anything to do with or have any business, then there will always be a clear vejta of the house.

When we as players understand this, we are basically saying that we accept the rules of the casino and that we can do many more things, but basically we cannot see how if the casino has a duty to us, the casino always offers many things, contests , bonuses, but all under conditions, so many say that it should not be like that, well maybe not, when you enter a treacherous case, the cases are different, there is no such thing, not even the KYC thing, only the identification, and that's what they ask of you, just exchange the money for chips and that's it, if you lose chips you lose money.


At first before registering on a casino, you have to read through their terms of service to be satisfied with it before going further to getting registered on that casino platform.  After that, you can commence other processes that qualifies and grants you access to play on the casino. Doing all these directly means that you have accepted every thing you have read about the casino and what ever decision they take your stay with them and they are not compelled in any  way to make explanations to you whatever the case maybe. All these should get stucked in your mind before moving further with the casino.

When it comes to gambling, it is known that we should gamble responsibly and with fun which means that wether you win or not, gambling is for fun and one should not have the mindset of always wanting to win at all cost because when one does that one would definitely be disappointed with the results they would get and that could make them start to chase their losses and it results to addiction.

Just like every other businesses, casinos are business ventures and as such are always wanting to make profit and would go to any extent just to get back their capital or funds lost. Even when there is discrepancies in a players record, they are not letting it go just like that. The ToS of the casino comes into play just to recover that funds they have there. So you see that they are just there for fun and funds as well. Players should know that too because they would need money to maintain the casino and pay their staff.
To avoid a lot of problems, also trying to use No-VPN, KYC is complied with, and it would be wonderful that any new user cannot play if they do not meet their requirement and then they can deposit, but I think that is too much, no casino policy I would accept it because obviously the players will not enter, but I think that despite this initiative, the players will say that the casino is transparent, or at least they will say that the casinos are honest and will not deceive them by saying that there is no KYC, and when it is their turn withdraw they ask for KYC, then they will tell you that sometimes KYC is requested at random, because then those things are breaking the guarantee, it is not healthy, and besides I am sure that they will lose a client, these things usually happen in some casinos and the truth is they don't care They have done nothing well, because they are not completely sincere and they make things complicated and cause them to never come back, besides the players have friends and speak badly to them about the casino, so it is not advisable to deceive.

I have seen lots of casinos terms and conditions here and in most cases those that claims not to do KYC would still state in that terms and conditions that they have the right to change policies at anytime without the interference of gamblers and also they have every right to demand for details as the case may be if the needs arise from third parties such as government. So you see that casinos can not be trusted when it comes to KYC. Some of the casinos just put the no KYC option because they know gamblers like that aspect of casino and would troop to that casino to register and start making deposit and upon withdrawal that is when you will start hearing stories from the casino. Some casinos even go as far as secretly changing the terms and conditions without informing gamblers to give them option or call their attention. Barry deceitful of them. That is a very bad move and it is not good to do such bit however, one needs to be careful and cautious how the engage with most of these unknown casino out there to avoid been a victim of scammers.

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October 10, 2023, 05:07:24 PM
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Yes, especially some casinos that have recently disappeared like Betnomi, maybe some people who still left funds on their site have also disappeared, that's why I gamble with small bets because I don't want something like this to happen, we all know gambling sites at any time It could be hacked, especially exchange sites because nothing in this world is a secure system.
Betnomi exit have raised alot of concernce among cryptocurrencies online casino customers because of the impact the company exit created in the entire online gambling communities, alot of gamblers lost they funds in the exit scam, although even though there havent been any official statement from the team i whatever manners which goes on to show how pre planned the exit is, because alot of others are still of the opinion that the casino was hacked or attacked and brought down.


But if that be the case, why didn't the team make any official announcement since this incident happen, and this is to show how risky it is to trust all this online casino, who never care about their own reputations.

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I'm still surprised that there are still many people who trust new sites and they make big deposits and then have problems with their money and then report them here, I wonder why they are so confident in making deposits and betting big money on new sites, sometimes it's strange with people like that even though all gambling sites are not so safe to keep all our money, always use money that is ready to lose, that is the most important
This will continue to happens just like it do happen in real life where people still trust and fall  for ponzi scheme time and time again even some previous victims still fail to do that, so the best possible protection for anyone is to secure your account by leaving only balance that you are ready to play with on the casino at any time this way you won't lose much or anything at all if the company fold up.

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October 10, 2023, 08:44:59 PM
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Yes, especially some casinos that have recently disappeared like Betnomi, maybe some people who still left funds on their site have also disappeared, that's why I gamble with small bets because I don't want something like this to happen, we all know gambling sites at any time It could be hacked, especially exchange sites because nothing in this world is a secure system.
Betnomi exit have raised alot of concernce among cryptocurrencies online casino customers because of the impact the company exit created in the entire online gambling communities, alot of gamblers lost they funds in the exit scam, although even though there havent been any official statement from the team i whatever manners which goes on to show how pre planned the exit is, because alot of others are still of the opinion that the casino was hacked or attacked and brought down.


But if that be the case, why didn't the team make any official announcement since this incident happen, and this is to show how risky it is to trust all this online casino, who never care about their own reputations.

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I'm still surprised that there are still many people who trust new sites and they make big deposits and then have problems with their money and then report them here, I wonder why they are so confident in making deposits and betting big money on new sites, sometimes it's strange with people like that even though all gambling sites are not so safe to keep all our money, always use money that is ready to lose, that is the most important
This will continue to happens just like it do happen in real life where people still trust and fall  for ponzi scheme time and time again even some previous victims still fail to do that, so the best possible protection for anyone is to secure your account by leaving only balance that you are ready to play with on the casino at any time this way you won't lose much or anything at all if the company fold up.
No one on their right minds that scammers would really be telling that they would be having a plan on having that exit plan. They wont really be that just dumb of course. This one hadnt really getting some word
because if they were been hacked or having those exploits then they would really be making some announcement and explaining things like  this and like that but since we havent been able to recieve or get something then it is really that safe to presume or assume out that it is a complete exit and this is one of the main cons of platforms and companies that we do have on this marketplace is on which on the time that they would really be running players/users money then there's no way that it would really be that recovered out.

This is why it would really be that normal that we should not really be depositing huge sums of money on a gambling site or even trying out to store because we dont really know on what would happen next
and if you are really that careless then for sure it would really be a huge loss aside on literally losing itself on playing gambling. There are various risks on different angles on which it would
really be just that right that you should really know on how to point out and what are the things that should be done.

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October 11, 2023, 03:09:30 AM
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Of course, you can use virtual phone numbers, but I think that this is not a very good solution if you compare it simply with buying a SiM card with a real phone number.  
Usually problems with virtual numbers arise if you have not used them for a while.  It may often come as a surprise to you that such a number stops working.  You just need to take into account that those organizations that sell such numbers may be too unreliable and may either go bankrupt or simply disappear along with your numbers.  A physical SIM card is much more reliable, but there are usually problems with anonymity when purchasing it.  And the official seller requires verification of the buyer’s identity.  
This is of course inconvenient.  But this is much more reliable than virtual phone numbers.
The problem with buying physical sim cards is that you can only buy a limited amount with one identity card or any other form of identity and if someone wants to use a different phone number for every single casino platform they use, they might need a lot of phone numbers if they are a fan of trying every new casino platform and for that, the person will need to use someone else identity to buy more sim cards and that can actually become troublesome.

And if it's about reliability, Google also offers virtual phone numbers and I don't think that one can find a more reliable source than Google for virtual phone numbers. So, there can be trusted and reliable virtual phone number providers but all it needs some research and one will find plenty after a few searches.

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October 11, 2023, 08:57:10 AM
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I don't like the idea of using your phone number or even if it's virtual for anything account related, the thing with sim cards is you aren't the only one seeing your code when you receive them, those people working in those network offices are also looking for money, they can be monitoring your messages and they can get access into your accounts, this days I found even email address to be more secured than sim card, because at least you can use 2FA code on your email account, I wish some thing like this is also possible with sim cards too.

Do not use your number to sign up and receive important log in codes, those who are a victim to sim swap don't know that it's from the network officers themselves, those who are smart knows that this is true, hungry monkeys are working in those sim cards company, do not trust any.


Using a virtual number is not recommended to get an activation code, because if we don't renew the subscription, the number could be transferred to someone else. Even physical SIM cards in my country are recycled. People who register a cellphone number and then the number is not used will experience theft of the connected account. I once bought a new sim card, but the number I used was already registered on Facebook and other social media. The result, that I suddenly got the Facebook login OTP code for the old person who had the account, I tried to log in and succeeded in controlling the account. LOL.

Using email may be a strong reason for account and OTP security, but of course, as long as the server is not our own, the potential for other people to open the contents of the email exists. It could be that for legal reasons or whatever, the provider opens the email that we have. Some people believe if proton mail is the best email for privacy reason. but i don't know if it true or not. DYOR/DWYOR

You need to count those factors before trying to use the services, if you failed to review and become a victim or if some issue raises up
it can be too late to realize and you don't have anything to do.

Best thing here is to practice the safest that you fully understand as your knowledge regarding to it will help you not have any possible issue to face
while you are playing or using services.

Keep in mind that there's always corresponding rules when playing which you needed to do your own research to make sure how things works.
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October 11, 2023, 09:15:44 AM
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Yes, especially some casinos that have recently disappeared like Betnomi, maybe some people who still left funds on their site have also disappeared, that's why I gamble with small bets because I don't want something like this to happen, we all know gambling sites at any time It could be hacked, especially exchange sites because nothing in this world is a secure system.
Betnomi exit have raised alot of concernce among cryptocurrencies online casino customers because of the impact the company exit created in the entire online gambling communities, alot of gamblers lost they funds in the exit scam, although even though there havent been any official statement from the team i whatever manners which goes on to show how pre planned the exit is, because alot of others are still of the opinion that the casino was hacked or attacked and brought down.


But if that be the case, why didn't the team make any official announcement since this incident happen, and this is to show how risky it is to trust all this online casino, who never care about their own reputations.

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I'm still surprised that there are still many people who trust new sites and they make big deposits and then have problems with their money and then report them here, I wonder why they are so confident in making deposits and betting big money on new sites, sometimes it's strange with people like that even though all gambling sites are not so safe to keep all our money, always use money that is ready to lose, that is the most important
This will continue to happens just like it do happen in real life where people still trust and fall  for ponzi scheme time and time again even some previous victims still fail to do that, so the best possible protection for anyone is to secure your account by leaving only balance that you are ready to play with on the casino at any time this way you won't lose much or anything at all if the company fold up.
Yes, it's true that if Betnomi was hacked, why didn't they announce it like other big casino sites, for example Stake, which also experienced this, but they still announced it to all users and said that users' money was safe even though there was a problem, but it comes back to individual choices. My advice to each user is also never put big money in any casino, be it big or small, because in my opinion it is very risky.

The point is always to use money that is ready to be lost so that you have thought about the risk of losing money either when playing gambling or the site being hit by problems such as being hacked and disappearing, sometimes many gamblers are too careless in this matter, fortunately I am not a big gambler, just a small gambler. only bet small bets so the risk is much smaller when there is a problem with the casino. but so far I am still safe playing at Stake.  Grin

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October 11, 2023, 07:31:57 PM
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Some of you guys need to do some snippet.  Cheesy

I'm still surprised that there are still many people who trust new sites and they make big deposits and then have problems with their money and then report them here, I wonder why they are so confident in making deposits and betting big money on new sites, sometimes it's strange with people like that even though all gambling sites are not so safe to keep all our money, always use money that is ready to lose, that is the most important
That's their problem that needs to be fixed, when they're too gullible and depositing huge amounts trusting them wholly that they won't do something later on that they won't like is doubting.

It's best that when these folks do try a new casino, deposit only an amount that's fair to them that no matter what happens, they won't feel any heat on it if they ever run away or suddenly stop their service.

Tremendous times that everyone have been reminding through the forum that it's for everyone, newbies or not, that if it's about the new casinos, don't trust them with such amounts.

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October 11, 2023, 08:13:05 PM
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Some of you guys need to do some snippet.  Cheesy

Lol, you did notice that too? It is somehow irritating to the eyes to see a long sequence of quoted messages.

I'm still surprised that there are still many people who trust new sites and they make big deposits and then have problems with their money and then report them here, I wonder why they are so confident in making deposits and betting big money on new sites, sometimes it's strange with people like that even though all gambling sites are not so safe to keep all our money, always use money that is ready to lose, that is the most important
That's their problem that needs to be fixed, when they're too gullible and depositing huge amounts trusting them wholly that they won't do something later on that they won't like is doubting.

It's best that when these folks do try a new casino, deposit only an amount that's fair to them that no matter what happens, they won't feel any heat on it if they ever run away or suddenly stop their service.

Tremendous times that everyone have been reminding through the forum that it's for everyone, newbies or not, that if it's about the new casinos, don't trust them with such amounts.

I think these people who put huge amounts of funds into a new site had tested it with smaller amounts and this brought them no problem so probably after sometimes of depositing small amounts and does not encountering any problems, they decided to trust the site and put much larger amount to the new site.

I think the problem here is not on the player but the owner of that sites whose aim is to trap its members and do an exit scam after some time.  Management whether the site is new or old, if they intend to scam people, they will scam people. if they intend to be reputable then even as a new site, they will do their best to be trusted.

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