Request for sent merit edit button

[Orpichukwu]

Your suggestion is nice

Not actually nice. It will make ranks more complicated. You rank up when having enough merit for a new rank, then someone demerit you, and you drop off, do you like it?

It is less important and serious than how managers will pick participants. Their works to select participants for campaigns will be more difficult when applicant's earned merits can change quickly by demerit.

The area where I said it was a nice idea is in the aspect where the OP suggested for a warning page to appear before anyone can send merit to be implemented. I see that as one thing that could stop such a mistake by the OP from happening.

but after reading a few other comments from experienced members, I realise that there is more to it than just implementing that, as users can still have that option and still make the same mistake as they can fine-read through those warnings annoyingly and would not want to read them every time and can just be clicking on next till they get to the confirm page, which is why the main purpose of such an implementation has been defeated.

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[Findingnemo]

even though I have given thousands of merits I always have a stack of them to give.

Not everyone has that privilege, I remember even a few merit sources complain about the low allocation of source merit which is not enough to cover all the good posts they witness.

But editing the merit after being sent is not likely in my choice. (Don't take away someone's joy, even if it happened due to a mistake).

giving a popup confirmation will defeat the actual purpose once they get used to it but it will be a real pain for people who used to send more merits. But what about giving a popup warning only for merit TX if it exceeds a certain amount, in my opinion, a warning for every merit TX for more than 10 merits can serve the purpose.

[Z_MBFM]

Woke up this morning and was going through some threads and wanted to merit a post. My intention was definitely to send 2 merits because to that post and then got carried away and mistakenly sent 22, I didn’t even notice until I saw my smerits drained, yeah it is ok to spend all smerits but definitely the amount to be sent should match the content of the posts.

My reason for this post is shouldn’t we have something like a second warning when the confirm button is clicked, like ’are you sure you want to send this amount to so so’

This system is not put in place because whoever you give merit to the post you must read the post properly and you will give him a fair merit. If you pass 22 while giving 2 merits then it is your failure. Because a person who can achieve Smerit in this forum cannot be such mistake. And if there is such a system, merit sources would get bored while giving merit because merit sources distribute merit in huge amount, they don't have huge extra time to give merit like us to sending Smerit.

Secondly shouldn’t we have a patch on editing merit sent even if it is for a specified time like how the edit button doesn’t reflect edited when it is done immediately the post is made.

Merit is something that can never be deleted from a profile.  Posts can be deleted and post deletion reduces activity but merit can never be edited and this system is perfect for forums. so adding this editing system seems pointless to me

[goxcraft]

Sorry to hear that buddy. But there is nothing you can do nor theymos would make changes to current merit sending system (I doubt). You should have been careful when sending merits. 22 sMerits are lot. The way I see it, you were saving those merits! And for whats? They are meant for given away others. Not keeping to yourself. What's done is done. Just be careful the next time.

[Oilacris]

Sorry to here that buddy. But there is nothing you can do nor theymos would make changes to current merit sending system (I doubt). You should have been careful when sending merits. 22 sMerits are lot. The way I see it, you were saving those merits! And for whats? They are meant for given away others. Not keeping to yourself. What's done is done. Just be careful the next time.

But sending out on 22 merits for a post which isnt worth for those numbers then it would really be bringing out that upset feeling.  

There's nothing we can do since this is how the system works and this is why on the time that you would be inputting those numbers or digits then always trying to doublecheck
so that you would really be able to make yourself that sure on how much merit you would really be tending to send away and wont
really be making out this kind of mistakes.

[GxSTxV]

Well, I came here to create the same thread as you and I found your case as well same as what happened to me. Just a few minutes ago on the Arabic local board I wanted to send 2 merits to someone. I'm using an iPad device, and I guess I didn't delete the 0. I noticed that I sent 20 merits by mistake. The problem is, you can't edit or undo it and there's no going back once you click on send. I hope these settings for sending merits get edited soon. Many users have made the same mistake several times especially when using mobile, so adding extra confirmation button would be so helpful to prevent such mistakes IMO.

[tranthidung]

Well, I came here to create the same thread as you and I found your case as well same as what happened to me. Just a few minutes ago on the Arabic local board I wanted to send 2 merits to someone. I'm using an iPad device, and I guess I didn't delete the 0. I noticed that I sent 20 merits by mistake.

You don't have to delete the default number #0, leaving it as it be. Then adding a number you want to send like 2, you will have 02 and click on Send. It's done, without mistake, without need to delete #0 at the starting place.

I remember it can be send this way but not sure and I tested it seconds ago. Consequently, you got 1 merit from me. Actually when I sent it, it is 01 sMerit.

The problem is, you can't edit or undo it and there's no going back once you click on send. I hope these settings for sending merits get edited soon. Many users have made the same mistake several times especially when using mobile, so adding extra confirmation button would be so helpful to prevent such mistakes IMO.

It is not necessary to undo or edit because you don't get any benefit from your sendable merit. What is valuable is merit, not sendable merit but of course you should send your sendable merit to only quality posts.

[PowerGlove]

I guess one could yet evolve it to add a second confirmation for sMerit amounts sent when larger than X (a second confirmation for any amount would become a nuisance and, in any case, drive people to click yes by force of habit).

That's a nice idea. As a profile setting (that's off by default), I can see that largely solving the problem without rubbing anyone the wrong way.

Something like this:

[dzungmobile]

That's a nice idea. As a profile setting (that's off by default), I can see that largely solving the problem without rubbing anyone the wrong way.

Something like this:

Have a confirmation as a reminder is better than don't have it but it won't help careless people. They will continue to make mistakes and overspend bigger than the number of sMerit they want to send. Like they skip a reminder if they send a same number of merit to a same post within a short time like 15 or 30 seconds (I don't remember exactly the span triggers this reminder).

And merit sources will not like this warning message .

[PowerGlove]

And merit sources will not like this warning message .

Are you sure you understand the specific proposal you're responding to?

You're saying that merit sources won't like an off-by-default option to protect against accidental over-spending (with a user-adjustable threshold)? Why would they object to that?

I think you might need a cup of coffee, or something. (Keep ingesting until you hear this sound.)

[Upgrade00]

Have a confirmation as a reminder is better than don't have it but it won't help careless people. They will continue to make mistakes and overspend bigger than the number of sMerit they want to send. Like they skip a reminder if they send a same number of merit to a same post within a short time like 15 or 30 seconds (I don't remember exactly the span triggers this reminder).

The merit cool down time is not a reminder, it makes it impossible to send merits to the same post within the time frame. That time frame is 60 seconds.

There has been a sharp drop in complaints about double spending merits to the exact same post since the cooldown time was implemented so it's safe to say that it had an effect.

[noorman0]

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Something like this:

This will be a very helpful setup.
I'm sure that some generous smeriters want to always spend theirs at the end of each distribution cycle and they sometimes have to go it with mobile.

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And merit sources will not like this warning message .

Its easy, if you keep it unchecked, no warning message will popped up.

[Frankolala]

Some months ago, I was doubting whether to send 2 or 1 sMerits to a given post, and ended up sending 21. It happens every now and then.

I recalled seeing a script to go with Tampermonkey that, though created in origin to speed-up somewhat the meriting process, was later enhanced to include an interface that could come in handy to reduce these type of mess-ups:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2833350.msg52249695#msg52249695

I guess one could yet evolve it to add a second confirmation for sMerit amounts sent when larger than X (a second confirmation for any amount would become a nuisance and, in any case, drive people to click yes by force of habit).

What actually messed mine up was like I just saw the post and was like let me send 2 then saw I had 24 smerits and in my head I would have 22 left after sending that two, then it was the 22 I ended sending. Maybe that’s punishment for hoarding something that was giving freely to me. But would have appreciated I splashed them on many posts or even a thread created not just a random reply.

Second confirmation would be actually helpful. But maybe things like this is teaching one how to avoid mistake on this crypto space, imagine it was bitcoin, I would probably be on drips now.

I can understand how you feel OP, I guess that 22 was the last thing in your mind before you did the mistake, and that was why you punched 22 on the box to send. Sometimes when we are busy, distraction can come in any form that will make you mistype a word and replace it with the last word that we heard from someone or in our thought.

You have given out a chunk of merits to a forum member and don't think that it is a waste of smerits because you still gave it to someone that you feel deserves your merit and that merits will elevate that user to the next rank, which you should be proud of helping someone to achieve his next rank easily. No smerit is a waste because it will add value to someones merit record and  the person's rank.

We keep on learning everyday in the forum from our mistakes, I know that from hence forth, you will be very careful and observant when next you will be sending merits to forum members.

[hopenotlate]

Original poster has a good point in my opinion : it would be a nice addition putting up a confirmation message that everyone can, or cannot, individually flag about the smerit we are going to send or alternatively set the option of edit sent sMerit for a very short time frame ( like a minute or so).
Sent 2 merit to OP to allow him recovering some smerit he lost by misclick.

[blckhawk]

Even if they were to add the second warning that you're going to confirm your merit sending, a lot of people will still disregard it and it will just be another step that they don't have to read carefully. The better solution would be for a warning or confirmation message only when you're sending 10 or higher merits so those that send 9 or below don't really be bothered by a confirmation message.

[Adbitco]

What happened to was at a cause of holding back much smerits if that you always dispatch your smerit I don't think you would face this mistake, I know is very painful seeing that you wasted your smertis to a post that doesn't worth it all. To me if I could suggest adding a kind of warning sign like "are you sure want to send such amount to user "X"" along the line you will have something like captcha in form of multiplication or substraction ( 1+9, 4-4, 10+1) something like this could really help to reduce accidental discharge of smerit. Though we know isn't that good holding back smerits but we should also remember that those smerits are given to post we found useful and meriting instead of just mistakenly wasting it to single post that doesn't carry such load of merits.

[Shamm]

Like what other said above we need to double check before we do something and yes we can not say that we are perfect which is our every move is accurate then all I can say is that we must careful somtimes. An about your experience there's a lesson that learned ,  and also deleting the 0 before we enter a number in order to sent merits is very helpful to us to avoid mistakes which once we mistakenly send 20 instead of 2 then it will drain your sMerits unless you are a merit source so we must double check first before we do something or before er send merit's.

[EL MOHA]

That's a nice idea. As a profile setting (that's off by default), I can see that largely solving the problem without rubbing anyone the wrong way.

Something like this:

This seems to me more like a better idea than what I first proposed. This way you don’t annoy those that have excess to send or those that see it as nuisance probably because they are use to being careful. If you don’t like it you can toggle it off.

 

To me if I could suggest adding a kind of warning sign like "are you sure want to send such amount to user "X"" along the line you will have something like captcha in form of multiplication or substraction ( 1+9, 4-4, 10+1) something like this could really help to reduce accidental discharge of smerit.

This will really be annoying let me be frank. I don’t know for other members but I don’t like captcha’s popping off eveytime. For someone like me it wouldn’t be that much of a problem but for some members that distribute many merits at once (merit sources) then it would be one hell of a thing to deal with. I have notice members like DdmrDdmr sending multiple merits in short period of time to different users, this will only discourage him

[Hyphen(-)]

To me if I could suggest adding a kind of warning sign like "are you sure want to send such amount to user "X"" along the line you will have something like captcha in form of multiplication or substraction ( 1+9, 4-4, 10+1) something like this could really help to reduce accidental discharge of smerit. Though we know isn't that good holding back smerits but we should also remember that those smerits are given to post we found useful and meriting instead of just mistakenly wasting it to single post that doesn't carry such load of merits.

Adding this warning or reminder will be good, but adding captcha will make the entire merit sending process very boring because people will be too lazy to send merit to quality posts because they will be thinking of the stress they will pass through doing captcha just to send out your smerit to someone. If people are too lazy to pass through that process, then lower ranks cannot easily rank up on time.

Imagine merit sources like DdmrDdmr that sent out multiple numbers of merits to different users within a few seconds. How can they achieve that if there is a captcha to be passed before sending merit?

[Adbitco]

I have notice members like DdmrDdmr sending multiple merits in short period of time to different users, this will only discourage him

I think this can only slow down his operation in terms of spraying merits although for people like that could be other better ways to get themselves sort out of such counter. Maybe Theymos can exclude those merits sources to allow them distributes enough merits to others without limitations unlike other common users.

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Imagine merit sources like DdmrDdmr that sent out multiple numbers of merits to different users within a few seconds. How can they achieve that if there is a captcha to be passed before sending merit?

Like i said merit source should be excluded, although is just a kind of suggestion not mean it will be instantly implemented.