[INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2

[stackinsats777]

The hard part is you cant send to the winning coin until the end I think - after the first sweep, everyone could check to see if they got swept funds, if they did not they could sweep as they now know they are not the winner. So maybe every time - sweep funds to an “skam” account and whoever ends up being last one holding a balance, they win. If anyone peels/sweeps their own coin prior to the end would be out of the running then.


After reading yours again - I think we are saying the same thing @minerjones

Well... they wouldn't necessarily know since no one knows which address goes with which coin.
So we would only know that one coin got swept, but not which one

   I respect your ideas fellas....but will that mean that my coin could end up with no funds?

   No disrespect to your ideas...but I would prefer the way we did it the first time...one coin will have a large amount of Sats and the rest have a low amount...this way nobody know who has what and at least everyone will have some Sats in their coins.

   Again, I respect your ideas and I am for whatever Frank or the majority decide...but these are my two Sats on it as I want one of these coins to remind me of what this mother fucka did to me and others.

I think you’re mistaken if you think the SBF losing coins have any BTC on them. Only one coin has the BTC and the rest are rekt

   ALL the SBF coins have SATS one them ....just that one has more than other...none are REKT...or swept unless the owner decided to do that.

Incorrect - only one SBF coin has any funds. The rest are empty

  When the fuck was that decided? I was not aware!

It was stated in the official sales thread that everyone would fund with .001 and the winning(non-rekt) coin would have .04

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[MoparMiningLLC]

When the fuck was that decided? I was not aware!

40 coins produced..... 1 winner and 39 REKT  

Load per person will be 0.001BTC plus coin price & shipping

This will make the winning coin have a load of 0.04BTC  

This was one of the ideas put forth in the original thread - other ideas were presented but this is what was decided  and what was posted in the eventual sales thread.

The second one is kinda the same concept except people will be able to sweep their own coin prior to it getting swept - this then however rules them out from winning the pot.

[krogothmanhattan]

When the fuck was that decided? I was not aware!

40 coins produced..... 1 winner and 39 REKT  

Load per person will be 0.001BTC plus coin price & shipping

This will make the winning coin have a load of 0.04BTC  

This was one of the ideas put forth in the original thread - other ideas were presented but this is what was decided  and what was posted in the eventual sales thread.

The second one is kinda the same concept except people will be able to sweep their own coin prior to it getting swept - this then however rules them out from winning the pot.

   
   Not too happy about that at all...as these ideas really screw up the idea of hodling a physical Bitcoin. I was too eager to buy the coin without really reading what the decision was to be.

   Too bad....was looking forward to having a physical loaded Bitcoin and not having to peel and ruin it to find out what I have or in this case now peel to outrun whomever is sweeping the coins.

 

[MoparMiningLLC]

   
   Not too happy about that at all...as these ideas really screw up the idea of hodling a physical Bitcoin. I was too eager to buy the coin without really reading what the decision was to be.

   Too bad....was looking forward to having a physical loaded Bitcoin and not having to peel and ruin it to find out what I have or in this case now peel to outrun whomever is sweeping the coins.

 

I can understand that - these though have not been so much about hodling a guranteed "loaded" item but more about the scammers and what they did.

1. FTX - took the funds but never really allocated it to the depositers in reality and instead put it all in his giant slush fund - pay for anything and everything account at Alameda.

2. Yogg - took the funds, loaded items then periodically swept random cards - leaving some intact in same cases

these coins are following - somewhat - in those same steps.

In the end, you can leave it intact - slabbed perhaps and potentially you could be the recepient of the funding.

[Cryptogreatdane]

Frankly I dont think we will ever know who has the coin. with 39 coins with 0 BTC. there really is no incentive to peal your coin. The value of this coin lies in the story and potential for the win. So when no one peels we all win.

[YodasRedRocket]

Frankly I dont think we will ever know who has the coin. with 39 coins with 0 BTC. there really is no incentive to peal your coin. The value of this coin lies in the story and potential for the win. So when no one peels we all win.

Everyone has .04 basically unless winner redeems.  I was good with the way the last one went down.  Maybe something different this time but I don’t like there being an incentive to peel.

[Crytocanuk]

Agree with Dane and Yoda, don’t mind if it was the same as the 1st coin… having no incentive to peel, the story and the potential for the win create the value for each of the coins produced. Imagine holding 1 of these 40 coins and seeing one go up for auction… as far as I’m concerned we all have 0.04 BTC on our coins!

[MoparMiningLLC]

Frankly I dont think we will ever know who has the coin. with 39 coins with 0 BTC. there really is no incentive to peal your coin. The value of this coin lies in the story and potential for the win. So when no one peels we all win.

Everyone has .04 basically unless winner redeems.  I was good with the way the last one went down.  Maybe something different this time but I don’t like there being an incentive to peel.

well the only incentive would be to see if you won. if you are ok without knowing then you wouldnt peel.

[Frank AlpenCoin]

Interest List updated.

We will see how the scam will happen. Will discuss with mj, mopar... and check the comments on the thread...

If anyone is interested, you can comment here or write a dm. I will add you to the list... I will wait till the end of the week, or next week.

[geophphreigh]

Not sure how I missed this thread until now. Consider me interested. I got SBF coin #14.
Geo

[Kryptowerk]

Confirming interest in this, ideally with matching serial to the ftx coin.

two things:
1. How about this time go with the route Krogoth, 2stout and others opted for in the ftx thread? Rect coins still with a tiny amount of funds, so buyers do actually hold a true loaded Bitcoin collectible?

2. I’ll repeat my concern regarding the fact this is giving a scammer extra immortality by a dedictaed collectible coin. Personally I am fine with it because of the trade-off which is something good and unique coming out of the scam. But would be interested on other collector’s input on this.

[pinky1234]

Confirming interest in this, ideally with matching serial to the ftx coin.

two things:
1. How about this time go with the route Krogoth, 2stout and others opted for in the ftx thread? Rect coins still with a tiny amount of funds, so buyers do actually hold a true loaded Bitcoin collectible?

2. I’ll repeat my concern regarding the fact this is giving a scammer extra immortality by a dedictaed collectible coin. Personally I am fine with it because of the trade-off which is something good and unique coming out of the scam. But would be interested on other collector’s input on this.

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I totally into this , Agree with Krogoth  ALL Rekk Coin with tiny amount such as  .001 example . & one Lucky basta(F-yogg)ejee with get Greater amount on just on 1 Coin. Can be same amount as the Rekk coin  .04 BTC


20 coin REKK--- . 001
1 lucky B-  .04

total coin 21

this is just numbers here

[MoparMiningLLC]

I disagree.

The 39 rekt and 1 winner is ideal to represent what these scammers did.

everyone got rekt except the 1 who did not.

these coins should follow that same path.



and to your point @pinky1234

to change from 40 to 21 would then rule out almost half of those who bought the first from being able to have the second.

I think we should stick with 40, and those that bought the first should have rights to get the second - if they give up their number then that should allow someone else to be able to get it.

[pinky1234]

I disagree.

The 39 rekt and 1 winner is ideal to represent what these scammers did.

everyone got rekt except the 1 who did not.

these coins should follow that same path.



and to your point @pinky1234

to change from 40 to 21 would then rule out almost half of those who bought the first from being able to have the second.

I think we should stick with 40, and those that bought the first should have rights to get the second - if they give up their number then that should allow someone else to be able to get it.

21 coin in total  was an example eeje.    .   i dont want to change subject  dont wanna talk about F- YOG  .  But if everyone's agree following REkk-1  path then . LEt it be 

[2stout]

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats.  I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt".  I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

[MoparMiningLLC]

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats.  I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt".  I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

[2stout]

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats.  I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt".  I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

I believe there needs to be a vote as there is no consensus.

[MoparMiningLLC]

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats.  I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt".  I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

I believe there needs to be a vote as there is no consensus.

the coin maker has the decision. the buyers vote with their wallet - whether they buy it or not.

[2stout]

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats.  I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt".  I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

I believe there needs to be a vote as there is no consensus.

the coin maker has the decision. the buyers vote with their wallet - whether they buy it or not.

Of course Frank makes the decision, but it seems like he would like community input based off his comments.  This would ensure the direction of coin is not commandeered.

[MoparMiningLLC]

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats.  I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt".  I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

I believe there needs to be a vote as there is no consensus.

the coin maker has the decision. the buyers vote with their wallet - whether they buy it or not.

Of course Frank makes the decision, but it seems like he would like community input based off his comments.  This would ensure the direction of coin is not commandeered.

agreed - Frank does have the final say.

And no one is commandeering the coin.