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I would argue with that. In sports betting you can't win big without risking, or, in other words, without counting on good luck too. If you bet on team that is most likely going to win your odds will be like 1.1 or 1.05 even. You'll never win big, even if you are right and your bet is as high as $200. And we all know that you can lose with 99% win chance because of bad luck.
You're not wrong though, but the context of my post was based on comparing sports betting with other forms of betting. However I understand your point, gambling as a whole requires lock, but chances of winning is on the higher side in sport betting, since you also make use of your own personal knowledge on the teams you are betting for. I have also seen cases where even the 1.1 odd games end up drawing or Lossing to their opponent. So in gambling any thing is possible. So, we can conclude that gambling is about luck, most of the time. Can I say that great poker professionals like Erik Seidel, Daniel Negreanu and Liv Boeree have won their millions only because of luck? No. But that luck has played a big part in all that, yes, I think so. And in my opinion sports betting requires more luck than poker, but maybe it's my own opinion.
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Working hard is different from luck, because you can be working entirely on games and odds while luck just deals with no stress and one will watch you grabbing enormous winnings without actually working hard for it. Luck plays a vital role in gambling because most of these newbies have lucky stars that shined for them and these gamblers are able to boost because they're earning quite good in the system. I've experienced and I'm not stopping to levelled myself for poor results but I keep forwarding myself for excellence and I'll never be comfortable if we're not able to meet up thr require targets to generate quite important funds.
Yeah, I get what you're saying about hard work versus luck when it comes to gambling. You can spend all kinds a time researchin the games and odds and still end up losing, while some other cat might make a killing without breaking a sweat. Thats just how it goes, right? But even so I think people make too big a deal about luck sometimes. Sure you gotta have some luck to come out on top, but you also gotta have skills to be a good gambler. I'm talking about knowin the odds inside out, getting how the games really work, and being able to make the right calls when the heat is on.
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January 02, 2024, 03:57:45 PM |
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But even so I think people make too big a deal about luck sometimes. Sure you gotta have some luck to come out on top, but you also gotta have skills to be a good gambler. I'm talking about knowin the odds inside out, getting how the games really work, and being able to make the right calls when the heat is on.
Yes, it is true that in the end luck will determine the final result, although there are gambling games that only rely on luck without hard work such as slot games and there are also gambling games that really require hard work such as analyzing and organizing strategies to gain profits from gambling, but speaking Regarding luck, all gamblers need it, but it's a good idea to use a little effort or skill to get it. Skills in gambling are really needed to play well but the point is to remember that gambling must have a budget limit so as not to gamble beyond the limits, gamblers are always like that, they are more focused on finding their luck in gambling without ever caring about limiting themselves from gambling, even though it is more It is important that we do not become addicted to gambling. After all, just play and let luck decide
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January 02, 2024, 05:01:14 PM |
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So, we can conclude that gambling is about luck, most of the time. Can I say that great poker professionals like Erik Seidel, Daniel Negreanu and Liv Boeree have won their millions only because of luck? No. But that luck has played a big part in all that, yes, I think so. And in my opinion sports betting requires more luck than poker, but maybe it's my own opinion.
I don't agree with you that sport betting requires more luck than poker. In sports betting we can easily analyze the wining team before the games comes to an end based on their performance, odds, player present etc. even if the probability of you winning a sport bet is low, poker is still not match for sports betting. Poker is entirely based on luck with just few skills. After shuffling the card and sharing it, your probability of winning now depends on the luck that hits your side that day. Poker is a game were you don't get to see your opponent cards and mind so if luck fall in the hand of a total beginner, he might even be the one to empty you account that day ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) .
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January 02, 2024, 05:06:08 PM |
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Working hard is different from luck, because you can be working entirely on games and odds while luck just deals with no stress and one will watch you grabbing enormous winnings without actually working hard for it. Luck plays a vital role in gambling because most of these newbies have lucky stars that shined for them and these gamblers are able to boost because they're earning quite good in the system. I've experienced and I'm not stopping to levelled myself for poor results but I keep forwarding myself for excellence and I'll never be comfortable if we're not able to meet up thr require targets to generate quite important funds.
Yeah, I get what you're saying about hard work versus luck when it comes to gambling. You can spend all kinds a time researchin the games and odds and still end up losing, while some other cat might make a killing without breaking a sweat. Thats just how it goes, right? But even so I think people make too big a deal about luck sometimes. Sure you gotta have some luck to come out on top, but you also gotta have skills to be a good gambler. I'm talking about knowin the odds inside out, getting how the games really work, and being able to make the right calls when the heat is on. Both luck and skills are very important in gambling, we need to have a clear understanding of this first, but it depends on the kind or category of games we are playing while gambling that determines the kind of experience we may have and the expectations as well in it, some games are strictly on luck and not by skills while some you have to be knowledgeable about the gambling tactics before playing them, that is why we must make it a duty to first understand what we are into when gambling, then try to know the situations involved as well before deriving a baseline for what we want in other not to affect what we should see with our gambling experience at the end.
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January 02, 2024, 05:18:11 PM |
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But even so I think people make too big a deal about luck sometimes. Sure you gotta have some luck to come out on top, but you also gotta have skills to be a good gambler. I'm talking about knowin the odds inside out, getting how the games really work, and being able to make the right calls when the heat is on.
Yes, it is true that in the end luck will determine the final result, although there are gambling games that only rely on luck without hard work such as slot games and there are also gambling games that really require hard work such as analyzing and organizing strategies to gain profits from gambling, but speaking Regarding luck, all gamblers need it, but it's a good idea to use a little effort or skill to get it. Skills in gambling are really needed to play well but the point is to remember that gambling must have a budget limit so as not to gamble beyond the limits, gamblers are always like that, they are more focused on finding their luck in gambling without ever caring about limiting themselves from gambling, even though it is more It is important that we do not become addicted to gambling. After all, just play and let luck decide I don't think gambling skills are necessary if you are the type of gambler who likes to believe in luck when winning. But if you believe in skills, you don't believe in luck either. It's just that, in reality, the majority of gamblers who believe in luck are the casino players who often encounter or experience bad luck when gambling in the crypto gambling business industry. Therefore, not all gamblers think that gambling is all about luck. How can you think like that if your only motive is to have fun for no other reason?
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January 02, 2024, 05:19:42 PM |
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In my opinion, gambling is just luck, if we make it to earn or use gambling as an income, it is a bad choice, unless you yourself work in gambling without betting. Most people hope that gambling will make their lives more miserable, and I am one of them, now I can control myself
You can't get addicted to gambling so you can control it easily but regular gamblers can't rule it out. Moreover now more and more people are using gambling as a source of income and they are willing to participate in winning and losing bets. It is not that you will always lose in gambling but you can also win many times. But i agree with you that gambling is more of a test of luck and especially there are many people who win most of the time. Besides i don't know what your fate is so we can try anyway. There are many people who have gotten rich gambling that can give a gambler more motivation.
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January 02, 2024, 05:31:05 PM |
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In my opinion, gambling is just luck, if we make it to earn or use gambling as an income, it is a bad choice, unless you yourself work in gambling without betting. Most people hope that gambling will make their lives more miserable, and I am one of them, now I can control myself
You can't get addicted to gambling so you can control it easily but regular gamblers can't rule it out. Moreover now more and more people are using gambling as a source of income and they are willing to participate in winning and losing bets. It is not that you will always lose in gambling but you can also win many times. But i agree with you that gambling is more of a test of luck and especially there are many people who win most of the time. Besides i don't know what your fate is so we can try anyway. There are many people who have gotten rich gambling that can give a gambler more motivation. Though 90 to 95 percent of gambling is indeed centered around luck, it is still very important for us to mention that, not all gambling games are luck based, and the most obvious example I think is sports betting, a gamblers knowledge in sports overall is what utterly determines how often or frequent such a gambler will win in their sports betting games, and by this, I am not ruling out the place of luck in sports betting, there is absolutely a good place for luck, but then, the ultimate criteria to consistent winning while betting on sports is sports knowledge, this is what gives a gambler an edge, a better edge over other sports bettors who are not all that knowledgeable in sports. Over here in my country and my area, there are some hard core sports bettors who live off the money they make from betting on sports, it's their only source of income and they seem to be doing really well, the secret is not that they are too lucky, it is that, they spend time learning about sports, and teams, clubs and everything patterning to sports.
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I would say that long-term profitable strategies are aimed at either maximizing favorable odds or sometimes simply avoiding negative odds. There are also strategies that consist in eliminating randomness as much as possible over the long term and following rational patterns. Games are extremely internally heterogeneous and we must try to find rational patterns in them, freeing them from randomness. Sometimes such patterns have a short lifespan. But they exist.
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January 09, 2024, 09:30:14 AM |
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In my opinion, gambling is just luck, if we make it to earn or use gambling as an income, it is a bad choice, unless you yourself work in gambling without betting. Most people hope that gambling will make their lives more miserable, and I am one of them, now I can control myself
You can't get addicted to gambling so you can control it easily but regular gamblers can't rule it out. Moreover now more and more people are using gambling as a source of income and they are willing to participate in winning and losing bets. It is not that you will always lose in gambling but you can also win many times. But i agree with you that gambling is more of a test of luck and especially there are many people who win most of the time. Besides i don't know what your fate is so we can try anyway. There are many people who have gotten rich gambling that can give a gambler more motivation. In my opinion, if there are many gamblers who win, it is also because they have luck in gambling, in my opinion the winnings in gambling are only based on luck, some people believe in patterns and tricks to be able to win at gambling, but I don't. believe that because in my opinion all gambling has a side of luck that can determine whether you win or lose, although there are also some gambling that require skill to win, but that is also not free from luck. Is it true that many people get rich by gambling? I'm not sure about that. Even though there are people who get rich by gambling, in my opinion it is not worth using as motivation, because gambling is a game of chance with different people's luck and they will not all win the same. Therefore, there is no motivation for someone who is rich to use it as a motivation for gambling, it is the same as a way to spend a lot of money.
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January 09, 2024, 10:04:40 AM |
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In my opinion, gambling is just luck, if we make it to earn or use gambling as an income, it is a bad choice, unless you yourself work in gambling without betting. Most people hope that gambling will make their lives more miserable, and I am one of them, now I can control myself
You can't get addicted to gambling so you can control it easily but regular gamblers can't rule it out. Moreover now more and more people are using gambling as a source of income and they are willing to participate in winning and losing bets. It is not that you will always lose in gambling but you can also win many times. But i agree with you that gambling is more of a test of luck and especially there are many people who win most of the time. Besides i don't know what your fate is so we can try anyway. There are many people who have gotten rich gambling that can give a gambler more motivation. In my opinion, if there are many gamblers who win, it is also because they have luck in gambling, in my opinion the winnings in gambling are only based on luck, some people believe in patterns and tricks to be able to win at gambling, but I don't. believe that because in my opinion all gambling has a side of luck that can determine whether you win or lose, although there are also some gambling that require skill to win, but that is also not free from luck. Is it true that many people get rich by gambling? I'm not sure about that. Even though there are people who get rich by gambling, in my opinion it is not worth using as motivation, because gambling is a game of chance with different people's luck and they will not all win the same. Therefore, there is no motivation for someone who is rich to use it as a motivation for gambling, it is the same as a way to spend a lot of money. If the gambling ratio is 1:1 only win or lose, surely it's not just luck that plays a role there. there can also be seen from the statistics of the game. and self-control and the brain to stop playing when you get a win or stop when you get a loss that is not too much. not continuing to lust for more or returning money from gambling losses.
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No, gambling is not just about luck, but there are other things that gamblers can feel after playing gambling. If you gamble only hoping for luck, you will be annoyed, angry when you lose or other negative things that you might feel. There are other factors that make gamblers feel like continuing to gamble even though they lose more than they win. Gambling is not a place to add to your wealth list because there are elements of luck and bad luck there.
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So, we can conclude that gambling is about luck, most of the time. Can I say that great poker professionals like Erik Seidel, Daniel Negreanu and Liv Boeree have won their millions only because of luck? No. But that luck has played a big part in all that, yes, I think so. And in my opinion sports betting requires more luck than poker, but maybe it's my own opinion.
I will not deny what you say. yeah, " we can conclude that gambling is about luck, most of the time". like some of the names you mentioned in the world of professional gambling in the field of poker. they really got lucky by getting millions of dollars, and that's why they got what they deserved. But in reality, luck will not come without effort, knowledge, experience and everything else involved. just like this life, everything is related to luck. Likewise with gambling, without luck which is related to each other, we will not win anything. In short, we agree with what you said including sports gambling. But in essence the concept is not that simple, I'm sure you also understand it. Now we are talking about sports, for example football. When the two teams compete, luck also plays a role. This luck must also be accompanied by effort, which is carried out by the two teams competing against each other. starting from the depth of a team's players, systems, patterns, strategies and all kinds of things carried out by the two teams competing against each other to win the battle. Just like gambling, betting requires experience, understanding, research, analysis, odds, options, and most importantly knowing exactly what we are betting on. After that, we will hand it over to the team that will compete. which team is luckier and also the choice options in our betting. This effort is made solely to minimize losses, without any effort with the variables that we do, it means we are betting only relying on luck. As a result, there are more losses than wins. because we don't try, which we should be able to do with our creativity. just like poker professionals, they need time to learn everything to achieve the skills they want.
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January 09, 2024, 11:00:22 AM |
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Relying solely on making cash from gambling is indeed risky, given the low statistical probability of consistently winning in every game at every casino. It's essential to approach gambling with a mindful understanding of both the risks and potential outcomes.
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Yeah, I get what you're saying about hard work versus luck when it comes to gambling. You can spend all kinds a time researchin the games and odds and still end up losing, while some other cat might make a killing without breaking a sweat. Thats just how it goes, right?
But even so I think people make too big a deal about luck sometimes. Sure you gotta have some luck to come out on top, but you also gotta have skills to be a good gambler. I'm talking about knowin the odds inside out, getting how the games really work, and being able to make the right calls when the heat is on.
I agree that luck plays an important role in any gambling. Especially on sports betting. Let's put match fixing aside for now. In general, in sports betting, of course, if you want to get big profits, you have to bet on the favorite team because you will get a multiplier above 1. However, if you are unlucky, you could even lose if you bet on the favorite team. It happens often and it would be even more interesting if we talked about combat sports because anything can happen there. So I think luck plays an important role here. I still can't forget some sports betting moments like Amanda Nunes being beaten by Penna and at that time the bookie put +1000 on Penna's win. Imagine if someone bet that Penna would win and went through submission. I forget the details but I think someone won $2,500 dollars on a $100 bet that night. CMIIW.
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January 09, 2024, 12:21:33 PM |
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So, we can conclude that gambling is about luck, most of the time. Can I say that great poker professionals like Erik Seidel, Daniel Negreanu and Liv Boeree have won their millions only because of luck? No. But that luck has played a big part in all that, yes, I think so. And in my opinion sports betting requires more luck than poker, but maybe it's my own opinion.
I don't agree with you that sport betting requires more luck than poker. In sports betting we can easily analyze the wining team before the games comes to an end based on their performance, odds, player present etc. even if the probability of you winning a sport bet is low, poker is still not match for sports betting. Poker is entirely based on luck with just few skills. After shuffling the card and sharing it, your probability of winning now depends on the luck that hits your side that day. Poker is a game were you don't get to see your opponent cards and mind so if luck fall in the hand of a total beginner, he might even be the one to empty you account that day ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Sorry, but it looks like you know little about sports betting, and you know even less about poker. In short, in sports betting your knowledge about team's performance is balanced by the odds. It's not like they both are factor, they are the opposites. In poker even with very bad cards you can win through bluffing, so luck plays minimal role there. ~
I will not deny what you say. yeah, " we can conclude that gambling is about luck, most of the time". like some of the names you mentioned in the world of professional gambling in the field of poker. they really got lucky by getting millions of dollars, and that's why they got what they deserved. But in reality, luck will not come without effort, knowledge, experience and everything else involved. just like this life, everything is related to luck. Likewise with gambling, without luck which is related to each other, we will not win anything. In short, we agree with what you said including sports gambling. But in essence the concept is not that simple, I'm sure you also understand it. Now we are talking about sports, for example football. When the two teams compete, luck also plays a role. This luck must also be accompanied by effort, which is carried out by the two teams competing against each other. starting from the depth of a team's players, systems, patterns, strategies and all kinds of things carried out by the two teams competing against each other to win the battle. Just like gambling, betting requires experience, understanding, research, analysis, odds, options, and most importantly knowing exactly what we are betting on. After that, we will hand it over to the team that will compete. which team is luckier and also the choice options in our betting. This effort is made solely to minimize losses, without any effort with the variables that we do, it means we are betting only relying on luck. As a result, there are more losses than wins. because we don't try, which we should be able to do with our creativity. just like poker professionals, they need time to learn everything to achieve the skills they want. I agree, it's not totally about luck if we are talking about poker and sports betting. Just let's not forget that other games like dice, plinko, mines, slots, Roulette ... they are all about luck, and no strategies work with them. Let's not forget about that.
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January 09, 2024, 12:38:30 PM |
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I don't agree with you that sport betting requires more luck than poker. In sports betting we can easily analyze the wining team before the games comes to an end based on their performance, odds, player present etc. even if the probability of you winning a sport bet is low, poker is still not match for sports betting. Poker is entirely based on luck with just few skills. After shuffling the card and sharing it, your probability of winning now depends on the luck that hits your side that day. Poker is a game were you don't get to see your opponent cards and mind so if luck fall in the hand of a total beginner, he might even be the one to empty you account that day ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Sorry, but it looks like you know little about sports betting, and you know even less about poker. In short, in sports betting your knowledge about team's performance is balanced by the odds. It's not like they both are factor, they are the opposites. In poker even with very bad cards you can win through bluffing, so luck plays minimal role there. It's a good thing you even know about odds and how they can help make predictions much more easier. Odds are inspired by the the performance of the team last games or head to head with the opposition team, or even the players available for that match. And this is the more reason why after lines up have been uploaded the odds changes. So man, you got it all wrong. Though there are times were result doesn't go in accordance with the initial odds but majority of the time, it plays in accordance. And apart from betting on pre match games you can also bet on live games after observing their performance for a while. Gambling isn't a vet rich quick scheme, so you'll be fine accepting the odds during the match.
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January 09, 2024, 12:48:52 PM |
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Realizing that kind of matter saves his butt from losing more money, and the good thing is to develop that kind of ability to control things the right way, instead of pushing for more, better to take the rest and call the day if luck is not letting you win, adding to that, if you know how to balance and control your gambling activities, the chance also that you may take advantage of luck that may come up and back your bets. You will be able to quit before you miss your chance of getting those profits. Experienced gamblers understand how things happen and that's the edge of having that kind of experience when you attached yourself into gambling.
Yes, it will save him from losing his money because he can know when he should stop gambling and will not force himself to continue gambling any longer. Knowing how long he can gamble will give him the opportunity to prevent further losses. We can't force luck to always come with us, and that's what makes us have to be able to know when to stop gambling. For this reason, we need to study the experiences of other gamblers, especially those who have shared their gambling stories, to get something useful to use for our benefit. Maybe we still make mistakes by forgetting to know when to stop gambling, which is normal, so we are always required to learn more to try to develop our abilities to prevent bad things from happening.
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January 09, 2024, 12:59:37 PM |
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No, gambling is not just about luck, but there are other things that gamblers can feel after playing gambling. If you gamble only hoping for luck, you will be annoyed, angry when you lose or other negative things that you might feel. There are other factors that make gamblers feel like continuing to gamble even though they lose more than they win. Gambling is not a place to add to your wealth list because there are elements of luck and bad luck there.
Luck is the main factor in playing gambling to win, even though there are some bets and games that require skill, knowledge and experience, luck is still number one in terms of winning. Of course, every gambler should not just hope for luck because in this world we can't get everything we want or it could be said that not all the hopes we have can come true and give us what we hope for. Gambling is an activity that is full of risks, luck and misfortune so that we as gamblers can only wait to get or feel it. If luck is expected and can always come, it is very likely that no gambler will experience defeat, but it is precisely this hope that makes gamblers feel disappointment and loss.
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But even so I think people make too big a deal about luck sometimes. Sure you gotta have some luck to come out on top, but you also gotta have skills to be a good gambler. I'm talking about knowin the odds inside out, getting how the games really work, and being able to make the right calls when the heat is on.
Yes, it is true that in the end luck will determine the final result, although there are gambling games that only rely on luck without hard work such as slot games and there are also gambling games that really require hard work such as analyzing and organizing strategies to gain profits from gambling, but speaking Regarding luck, all gamblers need it, but it's a good idea to use a little effort or skill to get it. Skills in gambling are really needed to play well but the point is to remember that gambling must have a budget limit so as not to gamble beyond the limits, gamblers are always like that, they are more focused on finding their luck in gambling without ever caring about limiting themselves from gambling, even though it is more It is important that we do not become addicted to gambling. After all, just play and let luck decide Existing gambling really requires luck and luck is what you have to pay attention to, I mean if they lose when gambling then just understand that if at that time they weren't lucky, then they have to stop and come back later at a later date where maybe their luck is there. in the coming day. Even though there are some types of gambling that do require skill, I think luck still plays a role in determining victory or defeat at the end of the game. That's true, however, we must have gambling limits, one of which is the budget because it can reduce the risk of bigger losses, because it is true that many gamblers don't care about this, there are also those who don't care about the losses so they continue to gamble even though they only lose and lose. get it, because maybe they are like that because of their wrong thinking and make them addicted to gambling and experience endless losses.
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