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September 27, 2023, 10:20:39 AM
Last edit: October 06, 2023, 03:45:59 PM by Mcu641
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Hi, I signed up at Punt.com casino tonight. I deposited 2k USDt of which I won ~10k USDt by playing No Limit City games.

And then first problems started..

I tried to withdraw money, their system does not allow it and throws an error. I write to support - they take time, but still after 30-40 minutes I successful withdraw money

Within two hours, I deposited again (since I managed to withdraw 10k USDt, I thought everything would be fine)

deposit 2k usdt = lost

another deposit 1.5k usdt = lost

last deposit 1k usdt = won MAX win on No Limity City game "The Crypt" and balance goes up to 65k usdt

I'm trying to cash out my winnings and it's an error again.

I write to support, support asks to confirm KYC (although after winning 10k they did not ask)

I would send my ID, selfie and bank statement - support asks to wait until it is confirmed by the game provider. - I am waiting, during that time I managed to withdraw 5k USD

And now in the morning I receive a letter from PUNT.com that I am from a blocked country and will not receive my winnings.

I just remind you that all crypto casinos have same license (500.casino, bc.game, etc.) and in the mentioned casinos my KYC has been approved and I have received payouts of $100-400k.

Be carefull. PUNT.COM is a scam!

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https://ibb.co/5FkT4Tk - Withdrawals
https://ibb.co/tYwSxfv - Deposits
https://ibb.co/RSfGPfg - Statistic
https://ibb.co/6Bj9HpC - Max win

The Punt.com Twitter account has now been deleted. - https://ibb.co/1bT9kwX

I will add to this topic later. I wrote in a hurry.
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September 27, 2023, 11:05:15 AM
Last edit: September 27, 2023, 11:16:37 AM by UserU
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Hey Mcu641,

A support staff has brought your topic to my attention.

Just to clear the air, I am not the owner of 500 Casino, rather just helping them to promote.

Regarding the region restrictions, 500 clearly defines them in their Terms of Service so if the game or site is blocked in your region, you should be unable to access it.

Which country are you from, if you don't mind me asking?

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September 27, 2023, 11:33:12 AM
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I would send my ID, selfie and bank statement - support asks to wait until it is confirmed by the game provider. - I am waiting, during that time I managed to withdraw 5k USD
that's weird, why would they confirm a withdrawal you requested when they are verifying your KYC? As far as I know, when a casino asks a gambler to perform a KYC, they restrict the gambler's withdrawal until the Verification is finished.

And now in the morning I receive a letter from PUNT.com that I am from a blocked country and will not receive my winnings.
I am not siding with the gambling site but when they say "you are from a blocked country" do they mean from the game you played or from their gambling site?

anyway, their representative(Punt.com) seems to be active in the forum and sent him a PM informing him about this scam accusation.

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September 27, 2023, 11:34:33 AM
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Sorry if you don’t mind me asking, punt.com and 500 are they owned by the same company? Because the Op compliant is clearly about punt and your reply states “500” so it got me curious.

Edit:
Sorry, no need for a response I’ve seen where 500.casino comes into the equation.

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September 27, 2023, 11:40:54 AM
Last edit: September 27, 2023, 12:26:58 PM by Mcu641
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Hey Mcu641,

A support staff has brought your topic to my attention.

Just to clear the air, I am not the owner of 500 Casino, rather just helping them to promote.

Regarding the region restrictions, 500 clearly defines them in their Terms of Service so if the game or site is blocked in your region, you should be unable to access it.

Which country are you from, if you don't mind me asking?

Hi,
I am currently in Poland, but I live in Lithuania and I am Lithuanian. I asked representatives of 500.casino to join discussion, as they have an identical license, have paid me over $400k in winnings, and operate one of the most popular crypto casinos. Their opinion is important to me and I think to others. Because you, as representatives of an identical business, can comment on their refusal to pay out my winnings and its legitimacy more objectively.

And one more thing: why did they allow me to register, deposit 2k usdt, withdraw 10k usdt, then deposit another ~4.5k usdt (in several transfers, not at the same time) and after winning 65k usdt refuse to pay out winnings.

It's unfair.

https://replay.nolimitcity.com/show/kukobabuzedudanogoseyonerohenodidi   - my winnings are legal and included in the No limits city game "The Crypt" top winnings

P.s Their Instagram page was still active yesterday evening. And today it has already been deleted.

Looks like they are doing an "exit scam"

I will register domain puntscam.com and put all this information there to protect at least a few people from these scammers

FOR PUNT OWNER (I still know you will read it)
I agree to settle for at least part of the winnings. A MAX win player may only win once during his entire career. It would be unfair to take such a win away.
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September 27, 2023, 12:27:45 PM
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I don't know why your screenshot links doesn't load. Can you try uploading your screenshot here:
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I'd be happy to quote message the screenshot so that everyone can view it here in the forum.

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September 27, 2023, 12:28:17 PM
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I am not siding with the gambling site but when they say "you are from a blocked country" do they mean from the game you played or from their gambling site?

As per punt's terms he is indeed from the restricted juridictons (Lithuanian), so it is not from the game provider but from the general terms of the casino.
Surprisingly, he was able to deposit and withdraw some money before the bigger wins.
It must be something unfair for the player, but on the other side the casino also has a valid argument due to their written terms.
Hope to see there will be a win-win solution for this issue because I think both parties make mistake.
Player's mistake is because he is coming from the restricted juridiction while the casino's mistake is by letting player from the restricted juridiction to deposit, play and withdraw.

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Last edit: September 27, 2023, 01:26:13 PM by UserU
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Hi,
I am currently in Poland, but I live in Lithuania and I am Lithuanian. I asked representatives of 500.casino to join discussion, as they have an identical license, have paid me over $400k in winnings, and operate one of the most popular crypto casinos. Their opinion is important to me and I think to others. Because you, as representatives of an identical business, can comment on their refusal to pay out my winnings and its legitimacy more objectively.

And one more thing: why did they allow me to register, deposit 2k usdt, withdraw 10k usdt, then deposit another ~4.5k usdt (in several transfers, not at the same time) and after winning 65k usdt refuse to pay out winnings.

It's unfair.

https://replay.nolimitcity.com/show/kukobabuzedudanogoseyonerohenodidi   - my winnings are legal and included in the No limits city game "The Crypt" top winnings

P.s Their Instagram page was still active yesterday evening. And today it has already been deleted.

Looks like they are doing an "exit scam"

I will register domain puntscam.com and put all this information there to protect at least a few people from these scammers

FOR PUNT OWNER (I still know you will read it)
I agree to settle for at least part of the winnings. A MAX win player may only win once during his entire career. It would be unfair to take such a win away.

From the TOS, only NetEnt Casino Games are unavailable to Lithuanian users, so they are still able to enjoy the other games on 500. No such restriction applies to No Limits City as well.
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Are there any countries you cannot deliver to?
Our current delivery offering is limited to the countries within the EU, to Canada and to Japan. Unfortunately, we can not deliver to any other country than listed.

While having a license is definitely a positive step, the casino (PUNT) is still able to exercise decisions at its own discretion, such as your case. Unfortunately, only the official PUNT account user or a representative is able to shed light on this matter since they are fully aware of this.

On 500, as long as one's account is properly verified, has no bad records, not from a restricted country, and the wins are legit, he/ she is entitled to the full winnings.

EDIT: Were you aware of this when checking out their TOS?
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JURISDICTIONS. Persons located in or reside in Australia, Belarus, Cote D’Ivoire (Ivory Coast), Cuba, Curacao, Czech Republic, Democratic Republic of Congo, France, Iran, Iraq, Liberia, Lithuania, Netherlands, North Korea, Portugal, Serbia, Slovakia, Spain, Sudan, Syria, United Kingdom, United States or Zimbabwe (the "Prohibited Jurisdictions") are not permitted make use of the Service.

As this was already present, technically every user has agreed to the above clause the moment he/ she signs up for an account:
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Punt reserves the right to update or modify this Agreement or any part thereof at any time or otherwise change the Service without notice and you will be bound by such amended Agreement upon posting.

Ultimately, the ball is in the casino's court on whether it is willing to honor the last payout before restricting further access, or simply denying it altogether.

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September 27, 2023, 01:41:51 PM
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It's a pity that the attitude towards customer changes when he wins a larger amount.

If I hadn't won and didn't try to withdraw that money. My account would not be blocked and I would be allowed to continue losing money
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It's a pity that the attitude towards customer changes when he wins a larger amount.

If I hadn't won and didn't try to withdraw that money. My account would not be blocked and I would be allowed to continue losing money
this issue could have been avoided from the very start, this is why it is extremely important for the gambler to read the gambling site's ToS first and probably ask the support questions before registering or depositing on the gambling site.

P.s Their Instagram page was still active yesterday evening. And today it has already been deleted.

Looks like they are doing an "exit scam"
their twitter/X account has been suspended but their Instagram(https://www.instagram.com/therealpunt/) is still there.

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September 27, 2023, 04:11:18 PM
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I am currently in Poland, but I live in Lithuania and I am Lithuanian.
Since how long you are living in Poland? Don't you have residency permit there? Based on the terms, the person who 'located in or reside in' Lithuania aren't allowed to play at Punt.com. The terms aren't applied to the citizens of Lithuania. So, there should be an option for you if you are living in Poland for a long time with the residency permit.

BTW, their twitter account was suspended a few months ago.

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September 27, 2023, 04:17:51 PM
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I am currently in Poland, but I live in Lithuania and I am Lithuanian.
Since how long you are living in Poland? Don't you have residency permit there? Based on the terms, the person who 'located in or reside in' Lithuania aren't allowed to play at Punt.com. The terms aren't applied to the citizens of Lithuania. So, there should be an option for you if you are living in Poland for a long time with the residency permit.

BTW, their twitter account was suspended a few months ago.

I don't live in Poland, I just do business there.

As for their twitter, they never gave an answer as to why it was suspended.

I honestly think they just don't have the money to pay out the big wins so they do.

I once had the same problem with duelbits.com, but they still paid me full winnings after freezing my account.

You allow customers to register from a country where you do not work, you allow them to lose money, but when they win, you block the account and take them winnings.

It is unfair in every sense. If they are not scammers, I hope to get at least half of the winnings.
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September 27, 2023, 04:42:45 PM
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I will register domain puntscam.com and put all this information there to protect at least a few people from these scammers

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Let's make sure we have exhausted other, more friendly, option before taking such a drastic measure. I'll PM Punt.com and invite them here, see if they are willing to meet you in the middle by, perhaps, returning your deposits.

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September 27, 2023, 04:52:46 PM
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As previously mentioned to you, our compliance team has thoroughly reviewed your Know Your Customer (KYC) documentation. Based on the evidence from your submitted Lithuanian ID and bank statements, and your device's geolocation during this timeframe, it is clear that you are: (1) a resident of Lithuania; and (2) played on our platform from a prohibited region, Lithuania.

Our Terms of Service (TOS) explicitly states: "Persons located in or residing in the listed 'Prohibited Jurisdictions', including Lithuania, are not permitted to make use of the Service." Upon a detailed review, it was ascertained that your account violated these terms and our gaming license regulations by attempting to bypass the geofencing restrictions we diligently have in place.

These measures are not arbitrary. They exist to safeguard a legal, safe, and transparent gaming environment on our platform. The termination of your account is in strict alignment with our platform's rules, regulations, and licensing requirements.



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September 27, 2023, 05:03:22 PM
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Recognize that you simply do not have to pay out money on people's winnings.

It's only a matter of time before I find out who is behind this scam casino.

I honestly say - you will not have more reputation, I will invest twice as much as I won - but you will not be cheated by more people.

And as could be expected, we did not get an answer to any of the questions. Why was I allowed to play? Why did you approve my first payments when you saw my location?

https://ibb.co/hm6BMv1 - Googling "punt scam?" - my topic is in 4th place. And this is only the first day 🥱
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September 27, 2023, 05:22:50 PM
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OP has had similar instances across dozens of other trusted casinos.

The situation is almost always identical, OP creates an account, deposits, hits a small jackpot, sees if he is able to withdraw, and if he is, he deposits more and hits a large jackpot. He then strong arms casino's into paying him without them doing their due diligence.

It is very obvious from my discussions with other Casino owners that OP has a rogue employee working for these smaller slot providers. Every site that is a victim of his scam is aware of what is happening but feel pressured to pay him out due to the threat of reputational damage.

I would recommend casino's to seriously reconsider the providers they allow on their platforms. I never see these issues with premium providers such as Pragmatic. This is a dirty secret that nobody in the casino world wants to talk about, and unfortunately it is happening a lot more than one imagine.

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September 27, 2023, 05:33:28 PM
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OP has had similar instances across dozens of other trusted casinos.

The situation is almost always identical, OP creates an account, deposits, hits a small jackpot, sees if he is able to withdraw, and if he is, he deposits more and hits a large jackpot. He then strong arms casino's into paying him without them doing their due diligence.

It is very obvious from my discussions with other Casino owners that OP has a rogue employee working for these smaller slot providers. Every site that is a victim of his scam is aware of what is happening but feel pressured to pay him out due to the threat of reputational damage.

I would recommend casino's to seriously reconsider the providers they allow on their platforms. I never see these issues with premium providers such as Pragmatic. This is a dirty secret that nobody in the casino world wants to talk about, and unfortunately it is happening a lot more than one imagine.



I would suggest not to spread definformation.

I had the same situation with location problems only once with duelbits.com (money won there was from sports betting, not casino)

This time I won in a casino game from a recognized provider (No Limit city)

I promise everyone - punt.com will get big anti-promo. I am not the first person to be deceived like this. There won't be any more.
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September 27, 2023, 05:33:34 PM
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OP has had similar instances across dozens of other trusted casinos.

The situation is almost always identical, OP creates an account, deposits, hits a small jackpot, sees if he is able to withdraw, and if he is, he deposits more and hits a large jackpot. He then strong arms casino's into paying him without them doing their due diligence.

It is very obvious from my discussions with other Casino owners that OP has a rogue employee working for these smaller slot providers. Every site that is a victim of his scam is aware of what is happening but feel pressured to pay him out due to the threat of reputational damage.

I would recommend casino's to seriously reconsider the providers they allow on their platforms. I never see these issues with premium providers such as Pragmatic. This is a dirty secret that nobody in the casino world wants to talk about, and unfortunately it is happening a lot more than one imagine.



IF what you are saying is  true, i would imagine it would be much more  thought out attempt

Region being banned TnC is the #1 rule stated by casino to deny people of winning, why would they give the casino the chance  to use this  IF they are indeed part of such an attempt
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looks like stake.gg and punt.com are projects of the same person.


https://ibb.co/cJjrH57 - www.puntscam.com domain registered.

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September 27, 2023, 06:40:50 PM
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And as could be expected, we did not get an answer to any of the questions. Why was I allowed to play? Why did you approve my first payments when you saw my location?
This is a serious allegation and they have the information to properly counter your allegation. They didn't block you first and you were able to withdraw your winning funds without any hassle. But now when you got a big win they did maximum research to prevent your withdrawal and they got their expected proof about your citizenship.

Because it definitely begs the question, your country is banned in this casino so why did they let you play in the first place, didn't they track your location then? Or because of your huge winnings, you have to face this problem in this casino?

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