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December 26, 2023, 12:59:47 PM
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Yes, maybe following the times and maybe also the latest marketing strategy. Apart from that, this innovation may receive more support from the government and be able to make the gambling industry accepted in several places with its innovation.
No, this happened not because of keeping up with the times and marketing, but because there were massive profits to be made.
Just look, there are several countries that clearly have laws prohibiting gambling, but behind the scenes there are some powerful individuals who actually protect gambling sites in order to get taxes.
And of course taxes are obtained to make them rich for personal satisfaction in increasing their wealth assets, is this fair? Of course not, but it is normal for incidents like this to occur in several countries.
And for innovations such as casinos that provide services to gamblers to recover from addiction or in terms of solving problems because gambling is unreasonable, of course casinos will increase their promotions instead of making efforts to cure gambling addicts.
Sorry if I don't agree with this statement which doesn't make sense.

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December 26, 2023, 01:06:42 PM
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Governments and several organisations work to encourage responsible gaming. This involves establishing betting restrictions
To an extend, most terms and conditions structured to maintaining proper gambling within gamblers are now  being ignored not just by the gamblers but also as the Gambling sites because they both basically want to make profits.

I wonder to ask, how do you get denied access from doing what is obviously wrong but you have passion for it? Because I know the possibilities of underaged individuals who proceeds gambling registrations on the gambling websites I could make a successful registration by increasing its age so they could be access allowed to proceed with their gamblings but literally unknown and less concerned to the gambling sites.
Even as that, most of the terms and conditions moderated by the organisations and the governments are merely formalities. Imagine that scenero of World Health Organisation (WHO) clearly stated that smokers are liable to die young but yet they permits the productions of the same smokes.

Contrarily too, many individuals doesn't care about the healthcares and otherwise concerns the governments aids to manage the risk of individuals going coherents to indicting itself from natural nurturing mayhems which could be prevented but it is saddened that people feels so much independent making unverifiable decisions amongst themselves that could turn against their wills sometimes.











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December 26, 2023, 01:18:04 PM
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I heard and once read a thread that there are gambling sites that offer services to reduce the intensity of gambling or even stop gambling. Maybe also a request from local govt so that the gambling site passes and can operate in that country. This may be an effort by both parties to protect consumers and citizens.

You would have provided a link to that if it's that true, i don't think any gambling platform can make a statement like this and act upon it as well, the reason reason for this is when thry are making a public statement to entice the government while making a presentation that constitute their cabinets, but it's something totally far from the reality that they can make this statement in other to reduce one of the means that brought in their targets expectations on them.

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December 26, 2023, 01:19:38 PM
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I heard and once read a thread that there are gambling sites that offer services to reduce the intensity of gambling or even stop gambling. Maybe also a request from local govt so that the gambling site passes and can operate in that country. This may be an effort by both parties to protect consumers and citizens.
really? If so, then gambling would become more aware, conscious and responsible during gambling even before. It feels wonder to think about thier procedure cause gambling websites authorities always want from gamblers to inject more money in gambling and as the losing percentage is always much, authority will have in profit and then they will able to give more tax to govt! That's why many governments don't like to rethink about the recognition & seriousness of gambling. But gamblers are mature enough, so its their own responsibility to make them in discipline, make themselves in control and become so responsible which is called self exclusion as op mentioned
Responsible gambling has absolutely nothing to do with the government, and if also have nothing to do with gambling casinos as well, as far as they placed some warning to the gamblers, and even provided some resources that will aid the gamblers in practicing responsible gambling.

Gambling responsibly is solely the duty of the gambler, because even if  the government were to step in, their job also would be to create awareness of the risks of gambling, like the high possibility to loosing of money, the potential risk of becoming a gambling addict and so on.

Governments will not do the responsible gambling for any gambler, since like I said before, it's completely the duty of the gambler him or herself to practise responsible gambling, materials that teaches gamblers how to gamble responsibly are filled everywhere online, even on this forum.

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December 26, 2023, 01:23:37 PM
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if the government is truly seeking for responsible gambling then they must have a complete package of advertising in all major channels and places when this will be advertised because let us admit the reality that they are just trying to fool people by saying they are against gambling addiction but they are gaining huge income tax from gambling businesses so what is the truth on that?to be responsible must be not dealing in gambling at all.
Why is government being blamed and the citizens who decides to engage in gambling being exonerated. This is not so good. The government has don nothing wrong it is individuals who can't be accountable for their actions that should be cautioned.

When you decide that you want to overdo what you know that you shouldn't, then bear the consequences. You should be your own government and take care of yourself just as you would that other would.
The moment that they allow gambling businesses to operate in their country , and the amount they are gathering in taxations and other stuffs of collections from those businesses , there i put it that they must be blame because they are also responsible to why there is a chance to gamble.
it is like when the government allows liquors and cigarettes then they are also responsible in health issues of those who smokes and drink so why not gambling/
i don't directly blame them but at least they are also part of those cases .
Actually, if people understand the risks of gambling, why don't they make a request to the government that gambling puts them in a bad position because they gamble impulsively if the government allows it to operate, because as far as I know, orders are winners of the aspirations of the people, so people can do that to initiate it.

Regarding the tax issue, usually the tax applies when the company is already within the scope of tax law, meaning that the tax comes when a company is eligible to make tax payments, including casinos, but if you think about it, when banning gambling, many people will protest, it can be considered undemocratic or something like that, also indeed the revenue from gambling is quite large, so the choice that can be profitable for the economic growth of the country / region is to get a large tax from gambling, this in my opinion will be a paradox.

The government's efforts to make people have limits on gambling, I think it is an effort that the government sees enough to pay attention to impulsive gamblers, and who cannot manage their finances well, so the government must often educate about responsible gambling.

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December 26, 2023, 01:44:29 PM
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I heard and once read a thread that there are gambling sites that offer services to reduce the intensity of gambling or even stop gambling. Maybe also a request from local govt so that the gambling site passes and can operate in that country. This may be an effort by both parties to protect consumers and citizens.
really? If so, then gambling would become more aware, conscious and responsible during gambling even before. It feels wonder to think about thier procedure cause gambling websites authorities always want from gamblers to inject more money in gambling and as the losing percentage is always much, authority will have in profit and then they will able to give more tax to govt! That's why many governments don't like to rethink about the recognition & seriousness of gambling. But gamblers are mature enough, so its their own responsibility to make them in discipline, make themselves in control and become so responsible which is called self exclusion as op mentioned

Yes, maybe following the times and maybe also the latest marketing strategy. Apart from that, this innovation may receive more support from the government and be able to make the gambling industry accepted in several places with its innovation.
This will only be made possible through regulation. Here in my country there are a lot of illegal gambling operators online and offline. Good thing is that the government is making some legal actions to this so that legitimate operators business won't die. Taxes collected from gambling platforms will be used to buy ambulances, firetrucks etc. and that is where the taxes go.

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December 26, 2023, 01:48:42 PM
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That's why risk management is important, it's not good that a gambler is not a risk taker as a player in a casino. It is really necessary as a gambling player that he should know himself how to manage it without affecting his personality.
With risk management, a gambler will always be careful when gambling. He understands that gambling carries the risk of losing, and if he is not smart enough to manage his expenses, he can lose a lot of money.
By knowing how to manage money for gambling, he will think about gambling enough so that he will not risk losing too much. After all, playing enough gambling can give you pleasure.
Besides that, he will also try always to be responsible when gambling. He did everything because he knew that gambling could tempt him to spend more money, which could result in him experiencing more losses.
For this reason, he will feel that gambling in moderation is the solution for him so that he will not exceed his limits in gambling.

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December 26, 2023, 01:56:10 PM
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Governments will not do the responsible gambling for any gambler, since like I said before, it's completely the duty of the gambler him or herself to practise responsible gambling, materials that teaches gamblers how to gamble responsibly are filled everywhere online, even on this forum.

I think all countries have a responsibility to determine regulations for casinos operating in that country. Meanwhile, for players who lose at gambling, of course there will be no government that will consider the casino to have committed fraud because of the gambler losses or take responsible for their losses. It would be very funny if the government compensated people who lost at gambling.

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December 26, 2023, 02:07:28 PM
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With risk management, a gambler will always be careful when gambling. He understands that gambling carries the risk of losing, and if he is not smart enough to manage his expenses, he can lose a lot of money.
By knowing how to manage money for gambling, he will think about gambling enough so that he will not risk losing too much. After all, playing enough gambling can give you pleasure.
Besides that, he will also try always to be responsible when gambling. He did everything because he knew that gambling could tempt him to spend more money, which could result in him experiencing more losses.
For this reason, he will feel that gambling in moderation is the solution for him so that he will not exceed his limits in gambling.

Risk management and gambling are not quite compatible. A person seized by gambling is often unable to control his emotions, let alone follow the rules of risk management. If a player starts to control his expenses, it means that he treats the game more like a job than just a game
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December 26, 2023, 02:08:08 PM
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That's why risk management is important, it's not good that a gambler is not a risk taker as a player in a casino. It is really necessary as a gambling player that he should know himself how to manage it without affecting his personality.
Apart from the importance of risk management, it is also important for anyone to be aware of the risks in gambling, therefore, no one should complain about the risk of defeat, such as losing money in gambling, because that is part of gambling, which must be understood, limit your budget and gambling time so you don't waste too much money. playing gambling and exceeding the limits of financial capabilities.

Every gambler must be able to manage their emotions when gambling so that they can manage risks well, of course this can also encourage awareness to continue gambling responsibly and wisely, without self-awareness it will be difficult to control emotions well, therefore at least limit everything so that you continue gambling. safely without having to worry about wasting money unnecessarily.

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Governments and several organisations work to encourage responsible gaming. This involves establishing betting restrictions, offering support to those who think they have a gambling problem, and participating in self-exclusion programmes.

I dont think the government has some kind of program like this i mean they are the ones that kinda support gambling in the first place and at the same time this casino is a business where they are also getting profit since these businesses are tax, so probably it wouldn't be a great move for them, Most of the organizations that related to gaming and gambling do that is managed by the government like here in my country are just regulating casino gaming or probably just wasting peoples money since they are a lot of issues in this government organization, recently in my country, there was an issue about spending around 3Mpesos on just a logo. This is really overpriced considering the output plus their website was kinda of trash since it was recently hacked by some hacker guy just to teach them a lesson.

Probably the best thing that they do is to regulate and remove some of the gambling platforms that are not legally operating I guess it kinda helps since they can help us avoid scam websites etc if they actually do it since most of us doesnt really feel or see the things that they do if they are really doing anything or just wasting resources.
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Governments and several organisations work to encourage responsible gaming. This involves establishing betting restrictions, offering support to those who think they have a gambling problem, and participating in self-exclusion programmes.
Not so many countries care about the negative effect that gambling is emitting in the lives of their country's citizens, what they most care about is to create a peaceful environment for the smooth running of those casinos operating on their soil in return for the high taxes (money) that are paid into their purse. If you are referring to nongovernmental organizations and civil liberty organizations rendering support in encouraging responsible gambling I can agree to an extent but for the government I don't think they fucking care anyway. The only restrictions I see from the government is 18+.

Op don't forget that those self-exclusion programmes aren't for free, in some cases you have to be granted a subsidy where you incur part fees to benefit from those programmes. So it's like a win-win from the government achieving from the gambling companies and also from those who fall into gambling addiction seeking for specialist/rehab support. Lol.

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The moment that they allow gambling businesses to operate in their country , and the amount they are gathering in taxations and other stuffs of collections from those businesses , there i put it that they must be blame because they are also responsible to why there is a chance to gamble.
it is like when the government allows liquors and cigarettes then they are also responsible in health issues of those who smokes and drink so why not gambling/
i don't directly blame them but at least they are also part of those cases .
I would guess that considering how many "bad" things are allowed in a nation, I am not sure why casino was considered the worst one. I mean when you think about it, sure you could lose your money when you gamble and that could lead you to not have a good life, but also drinking and smoking can kill you and that means you literally have no life, you are dead.

So, the government basically says "these things that will kill you are fine, but this place that will take your money is not fine", that's literally all there is to the illegality of gambling and I never really found it sensible. I mean how could someone that will kill you can be free and allowed so easily, and yet something that just takes your money, that's it, is illegal?

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December 26, 2023, 06:09:22 PM
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Governments will not do the responsible gambling for any gambler, since like I said before, it's completely the duty of the gambler him or herself to practise responsible gambling, materials that teaches gamblers how to gamble responsibly are filled everywhere online, even on this forum.

I think all countries have a responsibility to determine regulations for casinos operating in that country. Meanwhile, for players who lose at gambling, of course there will be no government that will consider the casino to have committed fraud because of the gambler losses or take responsible for their losses. It would be very funny if the government compensated people who lost at gambling.

The governments of many countries have a huge income from gambling, but they try to hide it in every possible way. Of course, in public they will say one thing, but in reality everything will be different. This is quite normal practice for politicians, because most of them do well to citizens only to have a good reputation, under the guise of which they act in the interests of big business. It is high time to get used to the fact that the government is really only interested in us as a commodity to make money from.

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With risk management, a gambler will always be careful when gambling. He understands that gambling carries the risk of losing, and if he is not smart enough to manage his expenses, he can lose a lot of money.
By knowing how to manage money for gambling, he will think about gambling enough so that he will not risk losing too much. After all, playing enough gambling can give you pleasure.
Besides that, he will also try always to be responsible when gambling. He did everything because he knew that gambling could tempt him to spend more money, which could result in him experiencing more losses.
For this reason, he will feel that gambling in moderation is the solution for him so that he will not exceed his limits in gambling.
Risk management and gambling are not quite compatible. A person seized by gambling is often unable to control his emotions, let alone follow the rules of risk management. If a player starts to control his expenses, it means that he treats the game more like a job than just a game
If you can practice risk management well, of course, you can control your emotions. Moreover, this is gambling, where we can be influenced by what happens while we are gambling.
Someone can like to gamble, but they still have to be able to control themselves and have good risk management so that they don't lose too much.
It is indeed difficult, but by continuing to practice it, a person will definitely be able to keep himself conscious while gambling.
If a person can control his expenses, he will treat gambling as it should be and only consider it as a gambling game that provides pleasure.

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December 27, 2023, 05:05:45 AM
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The moment that they allow gambling businesses to operate in their country , and the amount they are gathering in taxations and other stuffs of collections from those businesses , there i put it that they must be blame because they are also responsible to why there is a chance to gamble.
it is like when the government allows liquors and cigarettes then they are also responsible in health issues of those who smokes and drink so why not gambling/
i don't directly blame them but at least they are also part of those cases .

The government should not be blamed entirely for citizens who become gamblers because they allow this business to operate in their country. The government only wants to get taxes from these businesses which are useful for the welfare of the people. The problem of people becoming addicted or other negative things resulting from gambling activities is a joint responsibility of the government and the casino platform. And therefore the government formed a gaming commission to regulate the gambling industry in their country and ensure that gambling remains on a safe and secure path.

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December 27, 2023, 05:12:01 AM
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The moment that they allow gambling businesses to operate in their country , and the amount they are gathering in taxations and other stuffs of collections from those businesses , there i put it that they must be blame because they are also responsible to why there is a chance to gamble.
it is like when the government allows liquors and cigarettes then they are also responsible in health issues of those who smokes and drink so why not gambling/
i don't directly blame them but at least they are also part of those cases .

The government should not be blamed entirely for citizens who become gamblers because they allow this business to operate in their country. The government only wants to get taxes from these businesses which are useful for the welfare of the people. The problem of people becoming addicted or other negative things resulting from gambling activities is a joint responsibility of the government and the casino platform. And therefore the government formed a gaming commission to regulate the gambling industry in their country and ensure that gambling remains on a safe and secure path.

I don't even get the idea why we came up with the discussion about the government being blame for addicted gamblers. Isn't it gambling is for entertainment only, just like when a person drink alcohol, or consume cigarrettes, they could also be addicted, but do we blame the government?

That's why there's this thing called "moderate", it should be done in everything we do as entertainment, especially if it involves risking money, because if we don't do that, we will suffer the consequences, and who's fault is that? The government or us?

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December 27, 2023, 11:35:51 AM
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The moment that they allow gambling businesses to operate in their country , and the amount they are gathering in taxations and other stuffs of collections from those businesses , there i put it that they must be blame because they are also responsible to why there is a chance to gamble.
it is like when the government allows liquors and cigarettes then they are also responsible in health issues of those who smokes and drink so why not gambling/
i don't directly blame them but at least they are also part of those cases .

The government should not be blamed entirely for citizens who become gamblers because they allow this business to operate in their country. The government only wants to get taxes from these businesses which are useful for the welfare of the people. The problem of people becoming addicted or other negative things resulting from gambling activities is a joint responsibility of the government and the casino platform. And therefore the government formed a gaming commission to regulate the gambling industry in their country and ensure that gambling remains on a safe and secure path.

I don't even get the idea why we came up with the discussion about the government being blame for addicted gamblers. Isn't it gambling is for entertainment only, just like when a person drink alcohol, or consume cigarrettes, they could also be addicted, but do we blame the government?

That's why there's this thing called "moderate", it should be done in everything we do as entertainment, especially if it involves risking money, because if we don't do that, we will suffer the consequences, and who's fault is that? The government or us?
Maybe they think that the government allowing gambling will make many people interested in gambling. Moreover, they can win some money from gambling, making them continue to gamble. But actually, playing gambling or staying away from gambling is each person's responsibility. The same as smoking and drinking alcoholic beverages. We already know the dangers of all of this, so we should be able to stay away from it or choose to use it but with limits.

Yes, we should know about limits and use gambling as entertainment. Otherwise, we will suffer losses because we have lost money playing gambling. And we are actually to blame because we have gambled excessively even though gambling is a pleasure that we are not obliged to do. If we gamble within limits, there would not be any problems that would happen to us.

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December 27, 2023, 12:12:39 PM
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Maybe they think that the government allowing gambling will make many people interested in gambling. Moreover, they can win some money from gambling, making them continue to gamble. But actually, playing gambling or staying away from gambling is each person's responsibility. The same as smoking and drinking alcoholic beverages. We already know the dangers of all of this, so we should be able to stay away from it or choose to use it but with limits.

Yes, we should know about limits and use gambling as entertainment. Otherwise, we will suffer losses because we have lost money playing gambling. And we are actually to blame because we have gambled excessively even though gambling is a pleasure that we are not obliged to do. If we gamble within limits, there would not be any problems that would happen to us.

If ever the government will ban gambling, people who want to gamble will eventually find a way to access gambling sites and casinos. They will just be creative in accessing those without the authorities ever finding out about it. People are stubborn especially if they are really that interested and hooked up in betting and playing, they will find ways regardless. It's not as if it will really solve the problem by prohibiting people,  it could only be a band-aid solution while the dependency in addiction haven't been addressed yet.

Indeed, gambling is someone's responsibility and not anyone else's. If they don't want to suffer the consequences, then they must do themselves a favor of not spending too much time and money in it. Addiction doesn't just occur instantly, it is a bad habit built over time. So staying away and choosing yourself  and your sanity will  save you from it. Limiting the engagement by not feeding your thirst to it will prevent you from being addicted. 

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December 27, 2023, 09:01:44 PM
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Governments will not do the responsible gambling for any gambler, since like I said before, it's completely the duty of the gambler him or herself to practise responsible gambling, materials that teaches gamblers how to gamble responsibly are filled everywhere online, even on this forum.

I think all countries have a responsibility to determine regulations for casinos operating in that country. Meanwhile, for players who lose at gambling, of course there will be no government that will consider the casino to have committed fraud because of the gambler losses or take responsible for their losses. It would be very funny if the government compensated people who lost at gambling.

The governments of many countries have a huge income from gambling, but they try to hide it in every possible way. Of course, in public they will say one thing, but in reality everything will be different. This is quite normal practice for politicians, because most of them do well to citizens only to have a good reputation, under the guise of which they act in the interests of big business. It is high time to get used to the fact that the government is really only interested in us as a commodity to make money from.
Many countries are really taking heavy tax from gamblers and that is one of the ways they can restrict more people from gambling. They believe that when they increase the tax to be paid by gamblers for tax, they would reduce how often they gamble but that is not the case. Many gamblers do not even consider whether they would pay tax or not when they gamble. Normally as a gambler, we need to be conscious and prepared for any decisions we are taking. We need to act very fast because there are many things that happens in gambling so fast. We can make money in gamble and lose money too as fast as possible.

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