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September 29, 2023, 09:14:22 PM
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but it's always possible to create a natural posting rate of 50 - 100 posts per week if they spend more time on forum than in the real world.

Yeah, I agree with you that it's very possible to create 50-100 posts per week and many people make above 50 posts per week. Actually, I'm among those members who spend a lot of time on this forum and I make 40-80 posts per week myself.

Sometimes we get involved in some threads so deeply that it will be a natural flow to make that number of posts per week. I have seen members who make more than 70 posts per week and all of those are reputable members of the forum and their posts are highly constructive.

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September 29, 2023, 09:14:37 PM
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I think it is not possible for someone to make 30 or 50 posts in an hour. A better example of post bursting should be around 10-15 posts per hour which is also going to be a hard thing for many users. I believe that Icopress warns those users who just want to complete their 25 posts limit as soon as possible and some users may post more than 10 to 15 posts per hour in order to complete their weekly minimum posts for a campaign.
It is possible for a person to make 100 posts per hour (if there are no limits, never tried, so don't know if there is any limit in per hour) by making a single line or one word or spamming posts, but you said it is hard to make 10 posts in 1 hour, and you are 100% right, because I made around 10 posts daily, from some time, and I know how hard it is to make 10 posts in only one hour, but if you are active in the local board then you might make it happen but there you can not post consecutively, thus it becomes hard. But if one makes up his mind to make 10 posts in 1 hour then he can easily make it.

And you are right about completing the limit, if one is found doing that, then he or she will be given a comment on the spreadsheet and that will be a warning as well. If that person does not stop doing that then will be removed quickly for not following the rules.

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I think it is not possible for someone to make 30 or 50 posts in an hour. A better example of post bursting should be around 10-15 posts per hour which is also going to be a hard thing for many users. I believe that Icopress warns those users who just want to complete their 25 posts limit as soon as possible and some users may post more than 10 to 15 posts per hour in order to complete their weekly minimum posts for a campaign.
It is possible for a person to make 100 posts per hour (if there are no limits, never tried, so don't know if there is any limit in per hour) by making a single line or one word or spamming posts, but you said it is hard to make 10 posts in 1 hour, and you are 100% right, because I made around 10 posts daily, from some time, and I know how hard it is to make 10 posts in only one hour, but if you are active in the local board then you might make it happen but there you can not post consecutively, thus it becomes hard. But if one makes up his mind to make 10 posts in 1 hour then he can easily make it.

And you are right about completing the limit, if one is found doing that, then he or she will be given a comment on the spreadsheet and that will be a warning as well. If that person does not stop doing that then will be removed quickly for not following the rules.
Lol, I actually laughed when I first read the top part of your comment and then when I read below I saw you now made it clear to me because I was thinking you are actually saying that's possible for someone to make 100 reason post in an hour but then you clearify that even a one line posts can be counted by the system as a post which is true but if it's the standard require or something good readers can relate to then achieving a feat of 100 post in an hour is actually quite impossible not even the posters can achieve this.

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September 30, 2023, 02:11:10 AM
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I think it is not possible for someone to make 30 or 50 posts in an hour. A better example of post bursting should be around 10-15 posts per hour which is also going to be a hard thing for many users. I believe that Icopress warns those users who just want to complete their 25 posts limit as soon as possible and some users may post more than 10 to 15 posts per hour in order to complete their weekly minimum posts for a campaign.
It is possible for a person to make 100 posts per hour (if there are no limits, never tried, so don't know if there is any limit in per hour) by making a single line or one word or spamming posts, but you said it is hard to make 10 posts in 1 hour, and you are 100% right, because I made around 10 posts daily, from some time, and I know how hard it is to make 10 posts in only one hour, but if you are active in the local board then you might make it happen but there you can not post consecutively, thus it becomes hard. But if one makes up his mind to make 10 posts in 1 hour then he can easily make it.

And you are right about completing the limit, if one is found doing that, then he or she will be given a comment on the spreadsheet and that will be a warning as well. If that person does not stop doing that then will be removed quickly for not following the rules.

First of all the participants who gets accepted in a campaign never make one line, one word, or spamming posts, because if they do something like that then they won't be accepted in signature campaigns anymore. If I'm not wrong then most of the signature campaigns require constructive posts and a single line or single word post isn't constructive at all.

I'm actually a high poster type of a person and I can say that it's really hard or impossible to make 10 constructive posts within an hour. I make around 5-15 posts a day, sometimes more sometimes less, and I can surely say that making that many posts require a lot of time on forum.

I love to give proper time to forum and also proper time to make those posts. Even in local boards it would be difficult to make 10 constructive posts within an hour. If the posts have anything valuable then such type of posts require some time to make. Even if someone makes his/her mind to make 10 posts per hour then still I believe that will be  really hard or somewhat impossible thing to achieve.

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I think it is not possible for someone to make 30 or 50 posts in an hour. A better example of post bursting should be around 10-15 posts per hour which is also going to be a hard thing for many users. I believe that Icopress warns those users who just want to complete their 25 posts limit as soon as possible and some users may post more than 10 to 15 posts per hour in order to complete their weekly minimum posts for a campaign.
It is possible for a person to make 100 posts per hour (if there are no limits, never tried, so don't know if there is any limit in per hour) by making a single line or one word or spamming posts, but you said it is hard to make 10 posts in 1 hour, and you are 100% right, because I made around 10 posts daily, from some time, and I know how hard it is to make 10 posts in only one hour, but if you are active in the local board then you might make it happen but there you can not post consecutively, thus it becomes hard. But if one makes up his mind to make 10 posts in 1 hour then he can easily make it.

And you are right about completing the limit, if one is found doing that, then he or she will be given a comment on the spreadsheet and that will be a warning as well. If that person does not stop doing that then will be removed quickly for not following the rules.

First of all the participants who gets accepted in a campaign never make one line, one word, or spamming posts, because if they do something like that then they won't be accepted in signature campaigns anymore. If I'm not wrong then most of the signature campaigns require constructive posts and a single line or single word post isn't constructive at all.

I'm actually a high poster type of a person and I can say that it's really hard or impossible to make 10 constructive posts within an hour. I make around 5-15 posts a day, sometimes more sometimes less, and I can surely say that making that many posts require a lot of time on forum.

I love to give proper time to forum and also proper time to make those posts. Even in local boards it would be difficult to make 10 constructive posts within an hour. If the posts have anything valuable then such type of posts require some time to make. Even if someone makes his/her mind to make 10 posts per hour then still I believe that will be  really hard or somewhat impossible thing to achieve.

I can do three to five good posts in an hour twice a day but and this is a big but you need to find posts to reply to with a good viable reply. Sometimes you can’t find a topic on the front page of a section say meta economics and bitcoin technical help.

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September 30, 2023, 03:30:19 AM
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I read this in one of the campaign threads and am curious to know how to check post bursting through this site ?

➥ Post bursting is not allowed, moreover it is easy to check with ninjastic.space.
You can simply go to a user profile, click on "Show the last posts by this person" and you can see his post history with all latest posts, each page includes 20 posts.

Depends on your or a manager's criteria on what is burst posting, like how many seconds between two consecutive posts, you can see he is a burst poster or not a burst poster.

Ninjastic.space can help but it is a third party site and can stop working anytime so I am keen on what is available at Bitcointalk.

Besides Ninjastic.space, you can use loyce.club too.
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Last edit: September 30, 2023, 08:14:44 AM by lovesmayfamilis
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Besides Ninjastic.space, you can use loyce.club too.
Active users, top posters and most active topics in the past 1h, 24h and 7d

Sometimes you can be surprised at how dedicated users dedicate themselves to the forum, and in addition, you can easily determine how quickly these posts were written. I like to look at the twenty-four-hour period. But are there record-holders who manage to send many posts within an hour? A large number will raise suspicion, whether the person writes himself or simply posts ready-made texts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3336840;sa=showPosts
For example, this user manages to send his messages every three minutes, in the time period of September 30 Smiley
Please note that he most often cites posts whose writing time is different from his posting time.

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September 30, 2023, 03:49:43 PM
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burst posts --> which means, don't make 30 or 50 posts in just 1 hour.

Wow, someone needs to be a Robot to do 50 posts in an hour Cheesy Human does not have such capability.

I think burst posting should be seen as a pattern for a certain user and it varies from person to person. For example, if a person just comes online and posts 3 or 4 posts in half an hour and then he only makes the minimum posts required for the signature campaign and also if this quick posting happens usually near the deadline of the signature campaign, then we can say that he is doing burst posting but if someone comes up with the below definition then he does not fall into this class, rather I would call him the forum lover who gives all his time to this forum  Smiley


I do 10 to 20 posts a day for 11 years and 2 months.

I recently needed a bit more income for my projects and took on a signature.

So for last 3 weeks I did very close to 400 posts. which is way more than i needed to get max payout .

Only 120 posts were needed.

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I can do three to five good posts in an hour twice a day but and this is a big but you need to find posts to reply to with a good viable reply. Sometimes you can’t find a topic on the front page of a section say meta economics and bitcoin technical help.

You're right three to five good posts aren't difficult especially for someone like you who makes a lot of posts on daily basis. It sometimes depends on the replies that we make because in some topics we get involved so deeply that making out 3-5 posts in a single thread isn't hard for us while other times we may make a single reply in a thread and no more than that.

I mostly post in Meta, Bitcoin discussion, and Gambling boards but sometimes I try to post in other boards as well. I believe that it depends on our moods and our understanding about a topic. If we are well aware of a topic then the replies come naturally and we don't really need to put much effort while sometimes we'll have to give time to research in order to make a proper reply.

I believe that even top posters won't be able to make 10 constructive posts in an hour because we as humans need to have some rest after making some posts. I usually make 1-2 posts or sometimes more at a time and then I take rest and do other activities of my life before making any further posts.

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September 30, 2023, 06:35:06 PM
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I can do three to five good posts in an hour twice a day but and this is a big but you need to find posts to reply to with a good viable reply. Sometimes you can’t find a topic on the front page of a section say meta economics and bitcoin technical help.

You're right three to five good posts aren't difficult especially for someone like you who makes a lot of posts on daily basis. It sometimes depends on the replies that we make because in some topics we get involved so deeply that making out 3-5 posts in a single thread isn't hard for us while other times we may make a single reply in a thread and no more than that.

I mostly post in Meta, Bitcoin discussion, and Gambling boards but sometimes I try to post in other boards as well. I believe that it depends on our moods and our understanding about a topic. If we are well aware of a topic then the replies come naturally and we don't really need to put much effort while sometimes we'll have to give time to research in order to make a proper reply.

I believe that even top posters won't be able to make 10 constructive posts in an hour because we as humans need to have some rest after making some posts. I usually make 1-2 posts or sometimes more at a time and then I take rest and do other activities of my life before making any further posts.

Ten good posts in an hour would be very hard to do even for me.

Now I could write 25 good posts onto notes in a day and drop them all in an hour and it would really look like burst posting since no one would see that I spent 2 hours writing the posts.

I post in James Joyce style often so it does allow for water posting.

 

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September 30, 2023, 06:40:29 PM
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I'm waiting for the reply of icopress. I'm curious as to how he uses ninjastic space to check for burst posting. Maybe it could help other managers as well if they haven't already talked about it or something. The posts that some of the members made are obviously helpful for determining what is burst posting etc but it can be different for icopress.

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I'm waiting for the reply of icopress. I'm curious as to how he uses ninjastic space to check for burst posting. Maybe it could help other managers as well if they haven't already talked about it or something. The posts that some of the members made are obviously helpful for determining what is burst posting etc but it can be different for icopress.

Now I just did 5 posts in 14 minutes. They all add to the threads I posted on.

5 posts 14 minutes sound wrong maybe burst posting.

But I will do a dozen more today which is 17 posts. I need 6 to get full pay. so I am 11 over and not concerned about bursting posts.

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September 30, 2023, 09:09:39 PM
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Yeah, you have already been explained how to use ninja stic to check post bursting, but a good example of what I understand as post bursting on the forum is if you are in a campaign and you only use 1, 2, or 3 days to make the maximum of 25–50 posts for that weekly tenor, while you are expected to split the 25–50 posts into at least 5 or 6 days.

If you are expected to do a maximum of 25 or 50 posts in a week (7 days), you can do 5 or 10 posts each day for that one week, but if you only use two days to make the 25 posts, then it will be considered post-bursting.

I sometimes do about three or four posts per hour, which means I could end up doing about 20 posts for that day.

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Now I just did 5 posts in 14 minutes. They all add to the threads I posted on.

5 posts 14 minutes sound wrong maybe burst posting.

But I will do a dozen more today which is 17 posts. I need 6 to get full pay. so I am 11 over and not concerned about bursting posts.

Post bursting is not just about how many posts you do within a particular time in the forum. If the posts are made consecutively or within a short time period as you said; to my understanding, it can only be labeled post bursting if they contain very low quality and of course, every manager will refer to such posts as low quality and are basically done to reach the minimum quota for payout of the week.

Yeah, you have already been explained how to use ninja stic to check post bursting, but a good example of what I understand as post bursting on the forum is if you are in a campaign and you only use 1, 2, or 3 days to make the maximum of 25–50 posts for that weekly tenor, while you are expected to split the 25–50 posts into at least 5 or 6 days.

You have a point in what you refer to as post bursting in your opinion but I don’t seem to be convinced with it. But looking at it from this angle again, If a user used 1,2,3 days to reach the minimum quota of the post for the week and stop posting for the remaining days for reasons known to him/her, that shouldn’t be seen as post bursting especially if the posts are of high quality. I think post bursting is commenting on a thread that has no discussion going on or abandoned for a very long time in order to add your input which might have already been discussed severally in that topic, that’s what I refer to as post bursting in my understanding.

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I'm waiting for the reply of icopress. I'm curious as to how he uses ninjastic space to check for burst posting. Maybe it could help other managers as well if they haven't already talked about it or something. The posts that some of the members made are obviously helpful for determining what is burst posting etc but it can be different for icopress.

Now I just did 5 posts in 14 minutes. They all add to the threads I posted on.

5 posts 14 minutes sound wrong maybe burst posting.

But I will do a dozen more today which is 17 posts. I need 6 to get full pay. so I am 11 over and not concerned about bursting posts.

Why do we put restrictions on people so they do not do many posts in quick time, when there are not any restrictions from the forum end Huh

Posting should be done at whatever pace anyone likes. Also, there are some shitposting being done keeping certain time intervals between them but this does not make them constructive.

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Now I just did 5 posts in 14 minutes. They all add to the threads I posted on.

5 posts 14 minutes sound wrong maybe burst posting.

But I will do a dozen more today which is 17 posts. I need 6 to get full pay. so I am 11 over and not concerned about bursting posts.

Post bursting is not just about how many posts you do within a particular time in the forum. If the posts are made consecutively or within a short time period as you said; to my understanding, it can only be labeled post bursting if they contain very low quality and of course, every manager will refer to such posts as low quality and are basically done to reach the minimum quota for payout of the week.

Yeah, you have already been explained how to use ninja stic to check post bursting, but a good example of what I understand as post bursting on the forum is if you are in a campaign and you only use 1, 2, or 3 days to make the maximum of 25–50 posts for that weekly tenor, while you are expected to split the 25–50 posts into at least 5 or 6 days.

You have a point in what you refer to as post bursting in your opinion but I don’t seem to be convinced with it. But looking at it from this angle again, If a user used 1,2,3 days to reach the minimum quota of the post for the week and stop posting for the remaining days for reasons known to him/her, that shouldn’t be seen as post bursting especially if the posts are of high quality. I think post bursting is commenting on a thread that has no discussion going on or abandoned for a very long time in order to add your input which might have already been discussed severally in that topic, that’s what I refer to as post bursting in my understanding.


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four days so far> I have done 53 posts my max is 40 and I think of the 53 done 42 are in good sections. So I could stop for the week and argue I am done. Of course my manager could say you stopped and did not post the last three days.

 As I said I am not the right example cause everyone knows I will get back to posting next week and that I post way over what is needed. But I can see if a lessor guy did 40 posts in 2 days and did not post for the next 5 that a manager would be annoyed even if the 40 posts were good.

As for post shit posts in dead threads yeh that is an easy peasy violation of burst posting. It would be interesting for a manager to talk about the guy that did good posts and enough, but in only days 1 and 2 for a week time slot.

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October 01, 2023, 06:22:08 PM
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I guess, post bursting implies not only a short period of time between posts, but also a short length of the post itself. After all, a person does not have time to write something substantial and extensive in 3-5 minutes, so that it is relevant to the discussion. If he or she writes a lot of posts in such a short time, then usually, it is a one-sentence answer. This can be confirmed by another rule that icopress introduced.

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I'm waiting for the reply of icopress. I'm curious as to how he uses ninjastic space to check for burst posting. Maybe it could help other managers as well if they haven't already talked about it or something. The posts that some of the members made are obviously helpful for determining what is burst posting etc but it can be different for icopress.

I am not sure he will open his cards. Especially giving that he reserves the right to interpret his rules as he deems necessary.

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I guess, post bursting implies not only a short period of time between posts, but also a short length of the post itself.
The length of a post does not determine the quality it adds to the discussion.
Many users wrongly relate post length to quality and this causes then to throw in a lot of fillers to make the reply look muh longer than it's necessary.

Managers add that character limit and set it very low as a baseline precaution, so users don't just write 'good observation there' and expect it to be counted.

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October 01, 2023, 09:36:12 PM
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I guess, post bursting implies not only a short period of time between posts, but also a short length of the post itself.
Post bursting has always meant posting successively without a cool off/ timeout especially if it is 3 or more most all down under 5-10 minutes especially if it's meant to reach weekly quota of sig requirement & also falls out of your usual posting style!
Btw, anything to do with the length of a post usually implies quality subject to a campaign manager's interpretation especially if it's in line with sigs.

I'm waiting for the reply of icopress. I'm curious as to how he uses ninjastic space to check for burst posting.
Eagerly waiting for this one too, but probably CM looks for a spike in the last 7 days of the graph and analyses these posts for any possible burst posting Roll Eyes


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October 01, 2023, 10:21:15 PM
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I'm waiting for the reply of icopress. I'm curious as to how he uses ninjastic space to check for burst posting. Maybe it could help other managers as well if they haven't already talked about it or something. The posts that some of the members made are obviously helpful for determining what is burst posting etc but it can be different for icopress.

Now I just did 5 posts in 14 minutes. They all add to the threads I posted on.

5 posts 14 minutes sound wrong maybe burst posting.

But I will do a dozen more today which is 17 posts. I need 6 to get full pay. so I am 11 over and not concerned about bursting posts.

Why do we put restrictions on people so they do not do many posts in quick time, when there are not any restrictions from the forum end Huh

I don't think they gave any restrictions on how or the time to post, is just that whenever someone makes a post like making up to 10 posts in an hour, 7 of those post ain't constructive is like they just did it to beat the time and the remaining 3 was careful arranged to meet up standard post, so these rushing to make up to 10 post in an hour is sometimes out desperation and it makes all 10 post useless and they can be #shittypost. And is not like a restriction was placed to drop many post in a quick time like you said.


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Posting should be done at whatever pace anyone likes.

Posting should be done at anytime, yes... But must it must pass a meaningful message across. Ok, What if the post doesn't send any meaningful message and it is created out of hurry? Can you applaud that post? I don't think so.
That's why they're trying as much as they can to keep this Forum in check, so that no one can just come and start dropping post that doesn't make any sense because you saw other users dropping theirs and you feel you can do it any how, the Forum won't be in other if the whole Forum has unconstructive post.

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