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September 29, 2023, 03:29:05 PM
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https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/38520031/sources-tyson-fury-oleksandr-usyk-sign-winter-showdown

Fury should have no issues beating Francis Ngannou next month as 1.1 favourite with sportsbet.io so this is a done deal to unify the heavyweight division and see who is the baddest man on the planet.

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September 29, 2023, 09:04:50 PM
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Where is now that looser member KTChampions who claimed that Tyson Fury is afraid of Oleksandr Usyk and dont want to fight him?  Grin
I cant wait to see how odds will change in next week weeks but I am betting on Fury without a doubt.
Fight against Francis Ngannou will be a nice warm up for him.

But Fury is a real coward (or did you miss the thread about the Usyk-Fury fight, which was not made just because of Fury's cowardice?) and whatever the final official status of the fight is, it will be an exhibition fight and nothing more.
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Now this is the real boxing unlike the upcoming fight of Fury against Ngannou.  It is obvious that Tyson will come out victorious in his upcoming fight and this Fury-Usyk would be the first heavyweight undisputed fight in the four belt era, a history in the making and will be forever recorded in the annals of boxing history as the first undisputed heavyweight champion in the current four belt era.

I am 50-50 on this take since both have their own strength.  Fury taking advantage of his reaches and height while Usyk is good in finding and creating angles to land his punches, so I think this upcoming undisputed fight can go either way.
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September 30, 2023, 12:16:56 AM
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Where is now that looser member KTChampions who claimed that Tyson Fury is afraid of Oleksandr Usyk and dont want to fight him?  Grin
I cant wait to see how odds will change in next week weeks but I am betting on Fury without a doubt.
Fight against Francis Ngannou will be a nice warm up for him.

But Fury is a real coward (or did you miss the thread about the Usyk-Fury fight, which was not made just because of Fury's cowardice?) and whatever the final official status of the fight is, it will be an exhibition fight and nothing more.
What a bunch of bollocks that was  Tongue

People always fall for cheap talking points when it reinforces their preferred narrative. It was always obvious that Fury was looking for the best possible deal and wasn't going to give in to unreasonable demands.

I've always believed that Fury would defeat Usyk in dominant fashion and I still stand by that. Fury will use his size to wear Usyk down and stop him in the middle to late rounds. I don't think Usyk is capable of seriously hurting him so Fury might also opt for a more reckless strategy and try to finish the fight early for a more emphatic victory.

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September 30, 2023, 05:32:09 AM
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This should be a pretty exciting matchup! I would put my money on Fury tho, he seems to be at the top of his game. Also the pre-fight shttalking is going to be epic, bet Fury gona get some shorts that go up to his neck so anything Usyk does is under the belt lmao
Fury will ofc first need to get past Ngannu without receiving serious damage, if he manages that, i think he wins this.
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This should be a pretty exciting matchup! I would put my money on Fury tho, he seems to be at the top of his game. Also the pre-fight shttalking is going to be epic, bet Fury gona get some shorts that go up to his neck so anything Usyk does is under the belt lmao
It's already been epic, both of them are trolling each other in social media even before the fight is being announced. And yes, it's just a matter of time before this became official and I would say that no one is surprised to see the fight being held in Saudi again. Because we all know that there are a lot of money flowing in Middle East so it make sense.

Fury will ofc first need to get past Ngannu without receiving serious damage, if he manages that, i think he wins this.
It think that what his team is expecting for Tyson Fury. He could toy Francis though before breaking him down. He just need to used his skills and not to get tagged by the power of Francis and he will be ok.

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September 30, 2023, 10:02:25 AM
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Fury should have no issues beating Francis Ngannou next month as 1.1 favourite with sportsbet.io so this is a done deal to unify the heavyweight division and see who is the baddest man on the planet.

This is the fight that should and must happen the title boxing's first undisputed heavyweight champion in the four-belt era will put the winner as the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time and will be the winner's greatest legacy in boxing, I just hope Fury will take care of Ngannou business and he will come out uninjured so he can prepare for this important fight of his boxing career, Usyk will have a long rest just enough to condition him for the Fury fight.

I'm sure Ngannou is fully aware of this and he is the guy who can jeopardize this fight by beating or worse knocking out Fury so he is preparing for this fight but we all know Fury always takes care of business in a grand fashion.


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September 30, 2023, 10:33:59 AM
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This is it, the fight that fans really wanted to happen but one thing I don't like is that they overlooked the capability of Ngannou, which is a big disrespect for him. Don't know what is stipulated in the contract, if Fury loses against Ngannou, will the fight still push through?



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This is it, the fight that fans really wanted to happen but one thing I don't like is that they overlooked the capability of Ngannou, which is a big disrespect for him. Don't know what is stipulated in the contract, if Fury loses against Ngannou, will the fight still push through?

Hopefully, Ngannou will pull an upset. It's probably bigger than Iron Mike's first defeat. But I doubt Ngannou can do anything. If Fury won't give Ngannou a chance then he can easily use his footwork, use his long jabs, and clinch when cornered for the first 4 rounds. Ngannou will be gassed out afterward or even earlier.

But finally, Big Belly signed the dot. He is probably convinced that Usyk's weakness is in the body. And I'm glad it is not happening in the UK where Fury insisted before. At least this is in neutral Saudi Arabia. Hopefully, this will happen in December although it is unlikely. Ngannou is a nuisance but Fury does not want to think of Usyk in advance so he may need a minimum of two months of training camp for Usyk after the Ngannou fight. And if Fury does not want to train hard during the Christmas season then this fight might happen from March onwards of next year.

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September 30, 2023, 11:48:11 AM
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Now this is the real boxing unlike the upcoming fight of Fury against Ngannou.  It is obvious that Tyson will come out victorious in his upcoming fight and this Fury-Usyk would be the first heavyweight undisputed fight in the four belt era, a history in the making and will be forever recorded in the annals of boxing history as the first undisputed heavyweight champion in the current four belt era.

I am 50-50 on this take since both have their own strength.  Fury taking advantage of his reaches and height while Usyk is good in finding and creating angles to land his punches, so I think this upcoming undisputed fight can go either way.
Ooh yeah! This will be a great fight, it will be a fight for the undisputed heavyweight champion again since Lennox Lewis. Here each fighter will have his own advantage, Usyk is speed and creativity, and Fury is the power of the blow, well, I guess I agree with you, here it seems to me 50/50.

Now the most important thing is that Fury does not lose to Ngannou in the fight, that should take place at the end of October, otherwise it will look very strange.  Grin
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Now the most important thing is that Fury does not lose to Ngannou in the fight, that should take place at the end of October, otherwise it will look very strange.  Grin

We're all waiting for that fight to happen the card is on Fury to beat Ngannou, if Ngannou beats Fury the fight could be derailed, Fury can still fight Usyk but the momentum will be on Usyk's side, I'm following Ngannou's camp he is being trained by Mike Tyson and Ngannou is so serious on his training.

Fury should not take Ngannou lightly I have seen fights that should been cherry-picked fight in preparation for a big fight that turned out bad one case is what happened to Anthony Joshua, I don't want to see that scenario I feel that there should be an undisputed champion in the heavyweight in a four-belt era and both Fury and Usyk deserves that title.

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Finally, we are going to see the best fighters in the business. Whoever wins this fight should be the best heavyweight in the world. I'm wondering where Zhang will sit; he just recently defended the championship, right? But let's forget about that for now and focus on the upcoming big fight.

As for the betting odds, I'm not certain if they're official, but according to this source below, Fury is a heavy favorite.

https://box.live/boxing-betting/fury-vs-usyk-odds/
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Finally, we are going to see the best fighters in the business. Whoever wins this fight should be the best heavyweight in the world. I'm wondering where Zhang will sit; he just recently defended the championship, right? But let's forget about that for now and focus on the upcoming big fight.

As for the betting odds, I'm not certain if they're official, but according to this source below, Fury is a heavy favorite.

@LFC_Bitcoin do we have a voting poll?

I want this fight to happen, Zhang could wait for the winner of the fight or get a tune fight while waiting who the winner is, Zhang also deserves to have a crack on those titles after delivering a great performance against Joyce, Fury is the heavy favorite right now, but there could be a shift if Ngannou exposes him.

There should be a poll for this so we'll know if the majority of members here favor Fury, I like Fury but things could change after his match against Ngannou I hope he's still the same Fury we know.

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Finally, we are going to see the best fighters in the business. Whoever wins this fight should be the best heavyweight in the world. I'm wondering where Zhang will sit; he just recently defended the championship, right? But let's forget about that for now and focus on the upcoming big fight.

As for the betting odds, I'm not certain if they're official, but according to this source below, Fury is a heavy favorite.

@LFC_Bitcoin do we have a voting poll?

I want this fight to happen, Zhang could wait for the winner of the fight or get a tune fight while waiting who the winner is, Zhang also deserves to have a crack on those titles after delivering a great performance against Joyce, Fury is the heavy favorite right now, but there could be a shift if Ngannou exposes him.

There should be a poll for this so we'll know if the majority of members here favor Fury, I like Fury but things could change after his match against Ngannou I hope he's still the same Fury we know.

If this list is updated. https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/12370125/boxing-champions-list

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WBO: Oleksandr Usyk*

IBF: Oleksandr Usyk

WBA: Oleksandr Usyk

WBC: Tyson Fury

*Zhilei Zhang is the WBO interim heavyweight champion

I guess the winner of this fight could choose not to fight Zhilei Zhang as he is just a WBO interim champion. But for the sake of entertainment, promoters might schedule Zhilei Zhang for a fight against either the winner or the loser of the fight, as I'm pretty sure it will still generate a lot of money.

However, there's still someone in line to fight Fury, and that will be the winner of Wilder vs. Joshua (if this fight will also happen).

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This should be a pretty exciting matchup! I would put my money on Fury tho, he seems to be at the top of his game. Also the pre-fight shttalking is going to be epic, bet Fury gona get some shorts that go up to his neck so anything Usyk does is under the belt lmao
It's already been epic, both of them are trolling each other in social media even before the fight is being announced. And yes, it's just a matter of time before this became official and I would say that no one is surprised to see the fight being held in Saudi again. Because we all know that there are a lot of money flowing in Middle East so it make sense.

Fury will ofc first need to get past Ngannu without receiving serious damage, if he manages that, i think he wins this.
It think that what his team is expecting for Tyson Fury. He could toy Francis though before breaking him down. He just need to used his skills and not to get tagged by the power of Francis and he will be ok.

Oh yeah, Saudis have the money to make both of them very rich (not that they aint well off already) so it makes sense that the largest fights happen there.

I fully agree with him toying with Francis but he does have to stay on his toes because that dude does pack a punch. And sometimes all it takes is a freak shot from a side and its over, have seen it many times before.
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We're all waiting for that fight to happen the card is on Fury to beat Ngannou, if Ngannou beats Fury the fight could be derailed, Fury can still fight Usyk but the momentum will be on Usyk's side, I'm following Ngannou's camp he is being trained by Mike Tyson and Ngannou is so serious on his training.

Fury should not take Ngannou lightly I have seen fights that should been cherry-picked fight in preparation for a big fight that turned out bad one case is what happened to Anthony Joshua, I don't want to see that scenario I feel that there should be an undisputed champion in the heavyweight in a four-belt era and both Fury and Usyk deserves that title.


Am also thinking with you that the Fury fight with Ngannou will be derailed. It is going to be an upset against the wish of bookmakers. How do we think that betting companies will allow Fury win it when it is obvious that many people will bet for him to win. It is going to be a very very easy way to win bets if that is allowed. Also since the bout is not a belt title fight and will not cause Fury anything he will not throw in all his strength to it so he does not sustain major injury that can weaken him against Usyk in a mouth watery titled fight of the century.

Am not going to bet on Fury to win. I will only watch it like WWE and its entertainment.
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Am also thinking with you that the Fury fight with Ngannou will be derailed. It is going to be an upset against the wish of bookmakers. How do we think that betting companies will allow Fury win it when it is obvious that many people will bet for him to win. It is going to be a very very easy way to win bets if that is allowed. Also since the bout is not a belt title fight and will not cause Fury anything he will not throw in all his strength to it so he does not sustain major injury that can weaken him against Usyk in a mouth watery titled fight of the century.

Am not going to bet on Fury to win. I will only watch it like WWE and its entertainment.

Not really sure what angle you’re coming from here. Even Usyk commented, "I’m 100% sure that Tyson Fury will be victorious."

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Francis will be like a sparring session for Fury, sort of a training but Fury should be worrying whether he could really fight after just 2-4 months.

https://www.boxingscene.com/usyk-on-injuries-ahead-fury-showdown-i-t-say-everything-ok-everythings-under-control--178633



Usyk having an injury for which he needed 14 weeks to train is like a fight between Usyk and Fury written on the flowing waters. And him talking about injuries with no exact date or location yet. Something tells me it won't happen.


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Am also thinking with you that the Fury fight with Ngannou will be derailed. It is going to be an upset against the wish of bookmakers. How do we think that betting companies will allow Fury win it when it is obvious that many people will bet for him to win. It is going to be a very very easy way to win bets if that is allowed. Also since the bout is not a belt title fight and will not cause Fury anything he will not throw in all his strength to it so he does not sustain major injury that can weaken him against Usyk in a mouth watery titled fight of the century.

Am not going to bet on Fury to win. I will only watch it like WWE and its entertainment.

Not really sure what angle you’re coming from here. Even Usyk commented, "I’m 100% sure that Tyson Fury will be victorious."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/oleksandr-usyk-fury-ngannou-prediction-31260470

I agree with Usyk's assessment of the fight Fury always comes to fight he never holds back It is an understatement to say that Fury will not throw all his strength this is not a wrestling show it is boxing and boxers are trained to throw haymakers, when a boxer is hurt he will not hold back, there's no way Fury will think that I have a fight coming this January and I have to conserve my energy and not to take risk lest I get injured and the fight will be cancel.

When boxers are inside the ring they have to protect themselves at all times and they have to engage I expect Fury to give his best shot and knock out Ngannou
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Tell me how could the guy with no experience in boxing beat a giant who’s been in boxing for 20 years?
I also have the same question.

It's a big embarrassment for Fury if Ngannou beats him in his game, boxing is his territory he knows everything on it and he knows how to pace himself 20 years is such a long experience for you to have a huge advantage for a guy who is just take up boxing and learning it in a few months

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Francis will be like a sparring session for Fury, sort of a training but Fury should be worrying whether he could really fight after just 2-4 months.

https://www.boxingscene.com/usyk-on-injuries-ahead-fury-showdown-i-t-say-everything-ok-everythings-under-control--178633



Usyk having an injury for which he needed 14 weeks to train is like a fight between Usyk and Fury written on the flowing waters. And him talking about injuries with no exact date or location yet. Something tells me it won't happen.

Maybe the Big Belly vs Ngannou fight is scripted? However, even without a script, it is still hard to imagine a 37-year-old who has been inactive for nearly 2 years beating a boxing champion in his debut. So Tyson Fury should be fine. My guess earlier is the fight with Usyk should happen before Christmas and New Year's or the fight will be moved to early March onwards.

The expected date is December 23. If Usyk has an injury he rather demand a later date or he will regret losing to Fury with an injury. Just like when his friend Loma lost a close fight to Teofimo Lopez and was only operated after the fight.

There's also a statement from Fury's camp that Usyk can file a case if he won't fight on December 23. It seems like the contract is signed but without a date and Big Belly is the one to decide it. I won't be surprised though if he tries to exploit Usyk again like giving a short notice to shorten the regular training camp.

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