ICC World Cup 2023 - India discussion

[cafter]

I am taking interest in cricket because I want to bet on sports, its low risky and low emotionally challenging to bet on sports then playing casino. I know some basics about cricket just don't have enough experience like knowing players name, records, who is best in batting, bowling, etc.
What I learned today: I knew that today at 2PM There will be match between India and Pakistan, which is very interesting to watch then any other team match. And I think a good player Shubman Gill has recovered from dengue which increase odds of india wins.

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[TheUltraElite]

I am taking interest in cricket because I want to bet on sports, its low risky and low emotionally challenging to bet on sports then playing casino. I know some basics about cricket just don't have enough experience like knowing players name, records, who is best in batting, bowling, etc.

@cafter, I know you are enthusiastic about making money and I wish you all the best, but a fellow member of this forum, I would not encourage you to gamble your money like that.

Sports betting is not learnt in one day by just knowing the game and how its played. It is a result of years of analysis of games, player's performance, team's outcome when pitched against one another and a bit of luck. You might get lucky but if you want a career in sports betting its way bigger than that. At some point you might not be able to clear your balance off the red.

Those who actually make money from sports betting are often gamblers but more often they are converted gamblers or affiliate marketers making podcasts about sports and showing off their money because they are paid to do so by betting companies. Same happens with Poker at one stage once you make a name for yourself. They dont gamble anymore.

Its your money though, not mine, but that is what I have understood over these years.

[cafter]

I am taking interest in cricket because I want to bet on sports, its low risky and low emotionally challenging to bet on sports then playing casino. I know some basics about cricket just don't have enough experience like knowing players name, records, who is best in batting, bowling, etc.

@cafter, I know you are enthusiastic about making money and I wish you all the best, but a fellow member of this forum, I would not encourage you to gamble your money like that.

Sports betting is not learnt in one day by just knowing the game and how its played. It is a result of years of analysis of games, player's performance, team's outcome when pitched against one another and a bit of luck. You might get lucky but if you want a career in sports betting its way bigger than that. At some point you might not be able to clear your balance off the red.

Those who actually make money from sports betting are often gamblers but more often they are converted gamblers or affiliate marketers making podcasts about sports and showing off their money because they are paid to do so by betting companies. Same happens with Poker at one stage once you make a name for yourself. They dont gamble anymore.

Its your money though, not mine, but that is what I have understood over these years.

thanks for giving your helpful advice, I will gamble just small portion of my money which I will not regret after losing and I don't want to gamble for now Also I don't have a regular income, And I am a student I don't want to ruin my life gambling, I just shared that I will bet on sports by gaining some experiences when I will be married or have some regular income and a good job.
Once again thanks for your advice you are good wisher. I know about responsible gambling will not ruin my life and will give advice to people who are gambling irresponsibly.

Also I was a gully cricket boy who don't even scored a "6", I don't know but I was very bad at  batting but my balling was good, I used to throw spin ball and hit their wicket.

[pakhitheboss]

Pakistan Vs India

The match that every cricket fan had been waiting has started. India winning the toss and asking Pakistan to bat first. The pitch doesn't offer any assistance to the fast bowlers. It might give some assistance to the Indian spinners which we will see in the later stage of the game. At the moment the Pakistani openers have given their team a good start. After end of 8 overs they have scored 41 runs and lost 1 wicket.

Good news for India, Shubman Gill is part of the playing 11. He gives a good boost to the batting order of the Indian team. Ishan Kishan has been dropped for this match.

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On a flat pitch, Indian bowlers have proven that they can take wickets. I had a notion that Pakistan batters would struggle against the Indian bowling attack. Now it is happening they have lost 7 wickets, which means their middle order has been wiped out. The bowlers are now on the pitch, run rate has gone down considerably. There wont be a big target to chase for the Indian batters for sure. 

[Bureau]

On a flat pitch, Indian bowlers have proven that they can take wickets. I had a notion that Pakistan batters would struggle against the Indian bowling attack. Now it is happening they have lost 7 wickets, which means their middle order has been wiped out. The bowlers are now on the pitch, run rate has gone down considerably. There wont be a big target to chase for the Indian batters for sure. 

It was a complete disaster for Pakistan today. When Babar and Rizwan were batting the projected score was 300 runs. They both got out and the whole batting order crumbled. I remember after they lost to India in the Asia Cup, Vikrant Gupta did pointed out this issue. If Babar and Rizwan don't bat Pakistani batters fail to deliver what they are expected. Today we again saw the same problem.

[LucyFurr]

On a flat pitch, Indian bowlers have proven that they can take wickets. I had a notion that Pakistan batters would struggle against the Indian bowling attack. Now it is happening they have lost 7 wickets, which means their middle order has been wiped out. The bowlers are now on the pitch, run rate has gone down considerably. There wont be a big target to chase for the Indian batters for sure. 

It was a complete disaster for Pakistan today. When Babar and Rizwan were batting the projected score was 300 runs. They both got out and the whole batting order crumbled. I remember after they lost to India in the Asia Cup, Vikrant Gupta did pointed out this issue. If Babar and Rizwan don't bat Pakistani batters fail to deliver what they are expected. Today we again saw the same problem.

This is actually serious issue for Pakistan team and it shows how much they dependent on Babar and Rizwan even today they are the only batsmen showed the fight back attitude.

Now India is striking back really hard, Hitman started hit show from the first ball itself unfortunately Gill got out early still no issues for the India and they are roaring at 64 for 1 at the end of 8 overs and if they score at this rate the match won't last long over 25 overs.

[elevates]

On a flat pitch, Indian bowlers have proven that they can take wickets. I had a notion that Pakistan batters would struggle against the Indian bowling attack. Now it is happening they have lost 7 wickets, which means their middle order has been wiped out. The bowlers are now on the pitch, run rate has gone down considerably. There wont be a big target to chase for the Indian batters for sure. 

It was a complete disaster for Pakistan today. When Babar and Rizwan were batting the projected score was 300 runs. They both got out and the whole batting order crumbled. I remember after they lost to India in the Asia Cup, Vikrant Gupta did pointed out this issue. If Babar and Rizwan don't bat Pakistani batters fail to deliver what they are expected. Today we again saw the same problem.

This is actually serious issue for Pakistan team and it shows how much they dependent on Babar and Rizwan even today they are the only batsmen showed the fight back attitude.

Now India is striking back really hard, Hitman started hit show from the first ball itself unfortunately Gill got out early still no issues for the India and they are roaring at 64 for 1 at the end of 8 overs and if they score at this rate the match won't last long over 25 overs.

2 wickets gone for India, Shubman Gill is understandable but Kohli hitting a loose shot is not acceptable. He should have rotated the strike and let Rohit take on the Pakistan bowlers. India is still in a good position to win the game. The reason for scoring fast is because they want a good run rate and in the later stage of the game the ball might not come to the bat as it is now.

[cafter]

Rohit Sharma got out, but he did really well, hitting 6 fours and 6 sixes for a total of 86 runs. Pakistan 0 sixes
Now, the team only needs 35 more runs to win. (sounds like commentary no?)

[Bitcoin Smith]

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2 wickets gone for India, Shubman Gill is understandable but Kohli hitting a loose shot is not acceptable. He should have rotated the strike and let Rohit take on the Pakistan bowlers. India is still in a good position to win the game. The reason for scoring fast is because they want a good run rate and in the later stage of the game the ball might not come to the bat as it is now.

I won't blame Kohli though, especially when Hitman is going for the kill all the balls he is facing. He got out on the top edge if I am not wrong but at that stage of match everybody knew that there is no hope for Pakistan in this match so India played this inning with the intention of increasing the NRR and it paid back as well cause now India is sitting at the top of the table.

Hitman seems to be in terrific form and precisely the form he wanted, like in 2019 WC, but unfortunately he gave away his wicket softly and missed his well deserved century. No worries, still lot more games to come, and hopefully the winning run continues for team India.


Points table updated.

[HelliumZ]

Although I don't take cricket very seriously, I watched yesterday's match very seriously. Pakistan has been defeated in all the high voltage matches India-Pakistan have played. This is the main failure of Pakistan. Pakistan have lost each of the eight World Cup matches held in the past. In this case, no possible reason is known for Pakistan's defeat but their batting and bowling failure in every match is fully responsible.



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[UmerIdrees]

hopefully the winning run continues for team India.

Many congratulations to the Indian community on winning this important match against Pakistan. They have already beaten the Australian team earlier and I don't think anything is going to stop them from progressing and lifting this 2023 World Cup.

Also, It is not only about the performance, but the confidence and the body language that the whole Indian team has at the moment is a guarantee that they won't disappoint their crowd and nation.

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[pakhitheboss]

After yesterday I think the real important matches to asses India's performance are on 22nd, 29th and on 5th Nov. On the 22nd of October they play against New Zealand. Then on the 29th they play against England. The real test would be on the 5th when they play against South Africa. It would be interesting to watch the betting odds for the match against all the three teams.

Why do I have a feeling that these four countries(including India)will be playing against each other in the semifinals. Do you guys have the same hunch?

I cannot see the image link you have posted. Use talkimg for posting images in the forum. They provide bbcode based links. Coming back to your image link. I think you have posted ICC ODI ranking list. India became the number one team before the World Cup after winning the Asia Cup.

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The target will be difficult to achieve for the England team...

[cryptoWODL]

Pakistan Vs India

The match that every cricket fan had been waiting has started. India winning the toss and asking Pakistan to bat first. The pitch doesn't offer any assistance to the fast bowlers. It might give some assistance to the Indian spinners which we will see in the later stage of the game. At the moment the Pakistani openers have given their team a good start. After end of 8 overs they have scored 41 runs and lost 1 wicket.

Good news for India, Shubman Gill is part of the playing 11. He gives a good boost to the batting order of the Indian team. Ishan Kishan has been dropped for this match.

We all know that India Pakistan match means is a high voltage match.But nowadays India and Pakistan matches don't come like before because Pakistan loses every match to India and now they don't play with them like before.But people sit eagerly to watch Pakistan and India play this time it was proved in their match.Where the gallery was completely empty in the opening match of this World Cup, the gallery was completely filled in the match between India and Pakistan It seemed that the India Pakistan match was the first match of this World Cup.These two countries are eternal rivals in cricket for which there is no shortage of people's interest in these two countries.I am giving some proof of that:

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[pakhitheboss]

India VS Bangladesh

Before the match started a lot of cricket critiques from India and Bangladesh mentioned that it will be tricky match. The reason they quoted was Bangladesh performance in the World Cup against India. They even said that India VS Bangladesh can become a third big upset in the World Cup.

One tight slap to those who questioned India's performance in the World Cup by King Kohli. Another big slap on their face by Rohit Sharma  because of his captaincy. The next slap would be from the bowlers and fielders.

What concerns me is the batting of Shreyas Iyer. I think he is struggling with his timing and after watching him getting caught today I feel he should be rested. I am sure the Indian team management won't agree with me.

The next concern is Hardik Injury as the Indian team need him . The reason is simple he is the best all rounder that India has after Kapil Dev. For now the news is not good as he has been sent for scans as the team physio think he has broken his ankle.

Who will be the next replacement? Either Shami or Kishan I personally think will be his replacement. What do you guys think?

[Bitcoin Smith]

What concerns me is the batting of Shreyas Iyer. I think he is struggling with his timing and after watching him getting caught today I feel he should be rested. I am sure the Indian team management won't agree with me.

The next concern is Hardik Injury as the Indian team need him . The reason is simple he is the best all rounder that India has after Kapil Dev. For now the news is not good as he has been sent for scans as the team physio think he has broken his ankle.

Who will be the next replacement? Either Shami or Kishan I personally think will be his replacement. What do you guys think?

I would say Shreyas is doing the job that is assigned to him, which is play anchor role on one end if there are too many wickets fell early, and also he is a good player of spin which proved in the previous match, so I don't think India will be looking for a replacement as long as the winning streak continues, and also I would prefer Ashwin over Takur on any venue because he is more capable of batting and can trouble batsmen even in batting friendly conditions with his variations so that is the one change I would like to happen.

AFAIK, the Hardik's Injury is not that serious but if he can't play the next match then India will be having big trouble since he contributes in both bat and ball.

If Hardik needs to be rested then India needs an actual 3rd seamer who will be Shami, but we will go one batsman short, so I hope he will be recovered before the big match against Kiwis on Sunday.

Kohli reached his 48th ODI ton today in his way and just one short to level Sachin's record.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

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 I would prefer Ashwin over Takur on any venue because he is more capable of batting and can trouble batsmen even in batting friendly conditions with his variations so that is the one change I would like to happen.

Ashwin should be in the team as he would have walked into any team playing in this world cup and still not getting a spot and Hardik should take some rest and bring Shami back against New Zealand.

AFAIK, the Hardik's Injury is not that serious but if he can't play the next match then India will be having big trouble since he contributes in both bat and ball.

If Hardik needs to be rested then India needs an actual 3rd seamer who will be Shami, but we will go one batsman short, so I hope he will be recovered before the big match against Kiwis on Sunday.

Hardik twisted his ankle and he was not even able to bowl after that, he needs a minimum rest of one week and if he is rushed back for the Sunday's match against New Zealand he wont be playing at his best and he might get injured again.

Kohli reached his 48th ODI ton today in his way and just one short to level Sachin's record.

Never thought anyone would surpass Sachin for the number of centuries scored in ODI.

[libert19]

What concerns me is the batting of Shreyas Iyer. I think he is struggling with his timing and after watching him getting caught today I feel he should be rested.

I feel he's good at rotating the strike and knows how to hold a wicket however whenever he goes for big shots he gets out. I think he's proper odi batsman and can be good partner when working along the sides of hard hitting batsman.

The next concern is Hardik Injury as the Indian team need him . The reason is simple he is the best all rounder that India has after Kapil Dev. For now the news is not good as he has been sent for scans as the team physio think he has broken his ankle.

Who will be the next replacement? Either Shami or Kishan I personally think will be his replacement. What do you guys think?

I'd rather like Surya, but I'll probably be alone on this one.