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October 20, 2023, 06:05:01 AM
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So Hardik Pandya is mostly injured for the next match and won't be in. What do you guys think? Will it be 5 bowlers in form of Shardul Ashwin, Kuldeep, Bumrah and Siraj or do you think it's better to put in SKY in place of Pandya and Ashwin in place of Shardul? Because I think it's better to have an extra batter with you haven't seen that trusted batting from Shardul so far. Case would have been different if we had Axar in team.
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Who will be the next replacement? Either Shami or Kishan I personally think will be his replacement. What do you guys think?
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The next match up is against the Kiwis in Dharmashala so IMO they should drop Thakur Saab and include Shami in the Playing XI but it will make our tail a bit long so to tackle this they could opt for SKY as an extra batter. Overall we should go with our old formula of 5 genuine bowlers (including Jadeja as a spin allrounder). 

Shami over Thakur because you can't risk with the latter when you are going with the 5 bowlers only. He's a useful number 6 bowling option but you can't count him as a frontline bowler despite his golden arm.

Kishan is a left-hander, which is a plus point in the mid inning when the opposition has left arm spinner (Satner) and no bowling side like this kind of battle as it heavily favors the slogging lefty batter like Kishan (similar to Pant) but SKY provides X-factor so I'd prefer him over Kishan.

Jaddu-Kuldeep duo is doing their job nicely so Ashwin's services are unnecessary in the next match.

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October 20, 2023, 12:10:52 PM
Last edit: October 20, 2023, 12:36:38 PM by pakhitheboss
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2 changes from my side.


As it is now clear that Pandya won't be playing the next match a in the World Cup. I am certain about Shami but I am not sure about SKY. I still think Ishan would be given preference over SKY. In my opinion SKY is a T20 player than an ODI one. His ability to hit the ball all over the ground comes handy as a T20 batters. Whereas a Kishan has already played in the World Cup and is quite capable in a 50 over match. We can only speculate the final decision would be taken by the team management.

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October 20, 2023, 12:30:46 PM
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Who will be the next replacement? Either Shami or Kishan I personally think will be his replacement. What do you guys think?
2 changes from my side.

It's official that Pandya will not be available for the match against NZ on Sunday.

Pandya to miss NZ clash due to ankle injury

As I predicted, India is going to be facing the real challenge now and it's up against the another Undefeated team. I feel that Ishan Kishan should be played over SKY as of this moment just purely based on their batting performance based on ODIs alone. We saw that Surya can play controlled inning too but its obvious that he tried really had not to hit the ball on that match too whereas Ishan Kishan will be good because to tackle the Santner in the middle over because is the leading wicket take for NZ and gives control in the middle overs of Kiwis which can be disturbed with the presence of an aggressive left-hander like him.

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As it is now clear that Pandya won't be playing the next match a in the World Cup. I am certain about Shami but I am not sure about SKY. I still think Ishan would be given preference over SKY. In my opinion SKY is a T20 player than an ODI one. His ability to hit the ball all over the ground comes handy as a T20 batters. Whereas a Kishan has already played in the World Cup and is quite capable in a 50 over match. We can only speculate the final decision would be taken by the team management.
SKY has shown that he has the ability to strike the ball really well when he is in touch in the highest level, he may not have showed that in ODI, but it is a matter of time he will prove his caliber, Ishan Kishan is a good left handed option as the match is in pitches where he will be familiar but not able to view him bat so no comments on that.

The match is played in Dharamshala which showed that chasing a total is a bit tricky where Netherlands defeated South Africa and England scored 364 batting first, so the toss is an important factor.
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The match is played in Dharamshala which showed that chasing a total is a bit tricky where Netherlands defeated South Africa and England scored 364 batting first, so the toss is an important factor.

India is having better bowling attack than other teams so either its chasing or defending we have the quality unit for that especially all of them are in extreme form since Asia cup. Still the Playing XI for tomorrow's match is unpredictable and for Kiwis Williamson seems to fit for tomorrow's match and if he plays then we will have some worries though cause he is someone who can defend and attack whenever needed and he is used to Indian pitches as well as against India.

I would love to see SKY too but will the team management take the risk on this match? I don't think so.

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India VS New Zealand

An important match for both the teams as they both have not been defeated  yet in the tournament. Today one of them will get defeated and the other would remain undefeated. India. Will be playing without Hardik Pandya as he got injured in the last match. Either SKY or Kishan should be part of the playing 11 today. I just checked the betting odds and India has a slight edge in the odds against New Zealand. Overall I am expecting a close match today as we haven't witnessed one in the tournament until now.

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Indians bowling attack again started extraordinarily against the best team which put the Conway under pressure and when he tried to hit he get caught at mid-wicket and Shami bowled a beauty in his first ever ball of this tournament and took Will young's wicket.

India is really in strong position now and without Kane Williamson then their middle order could be shaken down.

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Indians bowling attack again started extraordinarily against the best team which put the Conway under pressure and when he tried to hit he get caught at mid-wicket and Shami bowled a beauty in his first ever ball of this tournament and took Will young's wicket.

India is really in strong position now and without Kane Williamson then their middle order could be shaken down.

Shami could have got his second wicket if Jadeja could have taken the simple catch of Rachin. The spinners have stopped the flow of runs for now. They have brought the run rate below 5 again, we should expect another wicket anytime now. Indian bowling attack has been one of its plus point. They have been able to comeback everytime when the opponent batters have tried to increase the run flow.

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Indians bowling attack again started extraordinarily against the best team which put the Conway under pressure and when he tried to hit he get caught at mid-wicket and Shami bowled a beauty in his first ever ball of this tournament and took Will young's wicket.

India is really in strong position now and without Kane Williamson then their middle order could be shaken down.

Shami could have got his second wicket if Jadeja could have taken the simple catch of Rachin. The spinners have stopped the flow of runs for now. They have brought the run rate below 5 again, we should expect another wicket anytime now. Indian bowling attack has been one of its plus point. They have been able to comeback everytime when the opponent batters have tried to increase the run flow.
Shami Got five wicket haul in his first match itself so I think this is enough why he should be played in the playing XI over Takur.

As of now, its testing situation for the Indian middle order KL got out unfortunately from review and SKY run out due to miscommunication and extraordinary fielding from New Zealand hopefully Kohli and Jaddu will take this match closer to the target.

Still 73 runs needed of 86 balls.

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Shami Got five wicket haul in his first match itself so I think this is enough why he should be played in the playing XI over Takur.
There is no debate about who the better bowler is, Shami would be a permanent fix if India had the luxury to pick the 3rd pacer and Shardul Thakur gives some stability to the tail and even in this match, if India losses one more wicket, the weak tail is exposed and New Zealand have a chance to turn things around.

As of now, its testing situation for the Indian middle order KL got out unfortunately from review and SKY run out due to miscommunication and extraordinary fielding from New Zealand hopefully Kohli and Jaddu will take this match closer to the target.
 
As long as Virat Kohli is in the crease, there is nothing to worry and all they do is to rotate the strike from this situation rather than looking for extra ordinary shots as they only need 34 runs to win from 46 balls.
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Shami Got five wicket haul in his first match itself so I think this is enough why he should be played in the playing XI over Takur.
There is no debate about who the better bowler is, Shami would be a permanent fix if India had the luxury to pick the 3rd pacer and Shardul Thakur gives some stability to the tail and even in this match, if India losses one more wicket, the weak tail is exposed and New Zealand have a chance to turn things around.


Yeah, I agree with you the long Indian tail can be an issue even if we need run a ball like 10 needed from 10 balls and with the last four batsmen then the match will go against us. So this means we are going to go with Takur? If they required an extra batter and who can bowl 5 overs, then Ashwin can do the same even better in Run rate column irrespective of pitch condition.

Let's celebrate the win today and rivalry against NZ over 20 years in ICC completed now from India.

Really disappointed when Virat got out, I felt that he should looked to hit boundary and take a single to complete his ton, but it didn't happen.

Jadeja's batting box also ticked with this match completion, and we really deserved the top spot now more than any other team.




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NEXT FOUR MATCHES FOR INDIAN TEAM


Out of the four games left in this tournament for the Indian team, I think only two are important. The match scheduled on 29th October against England is crucial as the English team needs a win in the tournament. The next match against South Africa is the most important as they are presently ranked 3rd on the point table. If India is able to beat these two teams then they will remain undefeated in the WC2023.

Do you guys think India will be able to remain an undefeated team after the 12th of November?

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Shami Got five wicket haul in his first match itself so I think this is enough why he should be played in the playing XI over Takur.
There is no debate about who the better bowler is, Shami would be a permanent fix if India had the luxury to pick the 3rd pacer and Shardul Thakur gives some stability to the tail and even in this match, if India losses one more wicket, the weak tail is exposed and New Zealand have a chance to turn things around.

Shami can bat tho and his world cup hauls are nothing sort of impressive. He's one of top 5 Indian wicket takers while playing less matches than his peers of different eras.



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Felt sorry for Virat Kohli when he got out for 95. If he had reached his century then he would had equalized Sachin Tendulkar. He did took India to the historical win but couldn't achieve his goal. Mohammad Shami sitting on the bench was a mistake I think on the part of India management. He proved that yesterday by taking another 5 wickets in the World Cup.  India remains undefeated after yesterday and hopefully they remain unbeaten in the upcoming matches.
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Just in the nick of time! Pakistan has won the toss and decided to bat. The match starts in 2 minutes. Let's get ready for some exciting cricket action! 🏏
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The legendary and one of the iconic spin bowlers took his last breath today at the age of 77. He was part of the team that got India it's first World Cup in 1983. His career spans from 1967 to 1979.

Our PM did come on X.com formerly known as Twitter, to share the loss of one of the legendary cricketers of Indian cricket.



Another legend has gone and I feel another legend would be born for Indian cricket.

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The legendary and one of the iconic spin bowlers took his last breath today at the age of 77.

Bishan Singh Bedi was one of the world's greatest Left arm bowlers in the world.

Here are some of his records which may likely to be never broken in future.

1. 1560 first-class wickets - most by an Indian player
2. Second best in Maiden overs in test format (4.2 maiden overs per wicket)
3. Most economical bowler in 60 over ODI format.
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CURRENT HIGHEST RUN SCORER IN WC23!


A few days back when India had not played against Pakistan, Rizwan was the number-one batter. After 3 consecutive losses, he is now ranked fourth. After yesterday's massive win by South Africa, Quinton de Kock is ranking top on this table with an average of 81. While being in the second position Kohli has an amazing average of 118. There is not a big difference in runs between the top two players on this table, hoping Kohli dethrones Quinton de Kock after the next Indian match against England.

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What I find incredible on that list is the name of Rachin Ravindra. This is his first World Cup and he is already has his name on the top 5 highest run getters list. I was expecting one of our own player to be their like Shubhman Gill or KL Rahul. I understand that the order in which Rahul comes to bat it won't be possible for him to get centuries or play big innings. Gill can certainly get a century as an opener if he works on hitting the right ball to the right direction. After his sickness he looks a little bit distracted and off form. Till now he has not played the way he was playing before the World Cup started.
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