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September 30, 2023, 05:45:01 PM |
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Eternad
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September 30, 2023, 05:51:10 PM |
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Your screenshot is normal because the game is slot games which obviously player on,y use same amount of bet on same game consistently. The timing of his bets coincides on the spin speed of slot games. There’s a game ID available to verify each bets. Your screenshot doesn’t show it but most of the casino has the feature to see the bet results by clicking the game ID.
You will see manipulation if all the players name is just from random name generator software and if the casino is not that popular while they still have a lot of player consistently placing bets.
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September 30, 2023, 05:54:01 PM |
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It depends on the casino, if you’re referring to a casino that has a good reputation and also has quite a good amount of traffic then those payout you see at their casino are most likely true and not fake.
But I can’t say the same for a small casino that has a very low amount of traffic, some of them do fake those payouts in other to convince first timers that they are indeed paying their customers… if you check most of those reputable casino you’ll see that sometimes they include the tx id for easy verification but for those faking theirs I can’t say the same for them.
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Nwada001
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September 30, 2023, 06:00:49 PM |
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I see this as normal winning; this can just be some winning from RNG games where the player only uses a small amount to wager or from some kind of free spinning. Even if casinos want to manipulate their winnings and show some large amounts of winnings, if it happens frequently, they will not make the mistake of repeating numbers or even the user ID won't be repeated because it will be a mess on their side. As the above member said, game IDs can be used to verify that exact game for the casino, which enables that option. You can use that to verify if that amount was truly won or not. I don't see anything unusual in the winning figures displayed on your screenshot unless you have other details to prove otherwise, which are not visible on this screenshot.
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Gozie51
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September 30, 2023, 06:14:51 PM |
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That is slot game and your doubts is nothing to worry about. Maybe you can reveal what casino you took the screenshot from so that users can also do a check on that but I think there is no concerns about manipulation from just the screenshot you displayed, if you could drop the casino that will help to check if they are manipulated but the shots are not unusual.
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Lanatsa
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September 30, 2023, 07:57:11 PM |
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I saw something that caught my attention. I've recently been curious about the live payout displays in online casinos and wanted to gather some insights from the community. It seems that sometimes, when observing these live payouts, there are instances of repeated results, and I'm wondering if this is normal or if there might be something more to it. my question here is 1.Have you observed repeated IDs and payouts while playing in online casinos, and do you think these patterns are a cause for concern? 2.Are these displays genuinely based on real-time data, or could there be instances of manipulation or programmed repetition? Some how I feel these data aren't updated and are only programmed so as to attract more players into using their casino.
1. Of course, specially if those players or just yourself having that kind of playing on a single game like slots which using up on the same base bet amount and hitting up those similar rewards or combinations and if you are really just that you only is the one that playing then it would really be just your username would really be reflecting out and i do agree on those post earlier or some members that if you are in doubt then you could really be able to check it for yourself whether it is really that not repeated via with those game hashes on which this is something that you could really be able to peak on and tell that those roll results are really just that different to each other. 2. Stick with reputable or known platforms, you would really be definitely be able to save up yourself on stressing whether you are dealing with the right site or really that dealing with a scam one. We do know that there are lots of scam casinos nowadays on which it would really be that normal that we should really be making up some search first on which site that we are really tending to deposit. If you dont really make yourself that wary then you might really be ending up on playing on sites which are really that shady and might be ending up on getting scammed. If you do see those patterns and it do looks suspicious. Then why not really be tending to tell the sites name and would be sharing it up so that the community would really be able to know and see whether you are dealing with a good site or a shady one? but in overall its not really a solid indication of those kind of observation that the site is showing some shady acts since those are really just that casual ones.
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September 30, 2023, 08:06:03 PM |
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Well, a legitimate question, but it is something like looking for "the five legs of the cat" without need. One way to verify them is by doing a personal betting round, usually my betting tables/list are fine but they are red, ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) , well that depends on the game. Most casinos show these live payments... well there are people who like to watch the results of others. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) but they do have their use, in addition to being a way to verify traffic, etc., I used them or I use them in crash, for example, there I can see the average payout of a certain multiplier in thousands of rounds and I can intuit (so, one believes it, belief (fe)) if +2x is in trend...
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btc_angela
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September 30, 2023, 08:08:16 PM |
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Your screenshot is normal because the game is slot games which obviously player on,y use same amount of bet on same game consistently. The timing of his bets coincides on the spin speed of slot games. There’s a game ID available to verify each bets. Your screenshot doesn’t show it but most of the casino has the feature to see the bet results by clicking the game ID.
This is also what I'm thinking when he brought his concern here, as a slot player, it's possible that the players are using the same bet as the same time that's why they have the same pattern or results. You will see manipulation if all the players name is just from random name generator software and if the casino is not that popular while they still have a lot of player consistently placing bets.
Or if the casino is provably fair then the OP can check it manually if he is the one playing just to see if everything sits out correct as he has concern about the results that he is trying to show us. As a lessons though, if you have the gut feeling that something is wrong with the casino that you are playing, then simply stop and then go to other reputable casinos that we have here in our community so that you will not worry about this kind of issues.
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September 30, 2023, 08:35:01 PM |
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This will be a question for another day because the way I see the result of payout there is not normal because I don't think a slot game or a spinner could win exact amount of money every time, I don't think that is possible in anyway but I cannot opposed the result since of the original gamblers has said it that it is possible. I am still thinking of it how it is happened? Because if some used small amount to gamble frequently, it not supposed to repeat itself for the same amount to be payout every time. It looks suspicious.
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September 30, 2023, 09:02:10 PM |
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This is how the betting history should look like, it's available in all crypto casinos ... only thing is that this image is not complete, the result after each spin is not visible. I have checked my spin history many times, mostly for some promotion or just to brag about my positive and sometimes negative results. So I don't see anything strange in this picture, it's usually how it should look when someone spins the slots.
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Ojima-ojo
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September 30, 2023, 09:09:26 PM |
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To some extent inthink this look ok for me and nothing really wrong with the screenshots and results on the history and if there is any it could be as a result of technical glitches on the site and nothing to worry at this point and also you should know that if at the end it still display wrong bet settling then you can possibly get in touch with the casino support to be sure of what is happening.
Also note that, as much as we can have fake trading volumes on exchange same goes with casinos also, there may likely be the possibilities of fake bets also
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This will be a question for another day because the way I see the result of payout there is not normal because I don't think a slot game or a spinner could win exact amount of money every time, I don't think that is possible in anyway but I cannot opposed the result since of the original gamblers has said it that it is possible. I am still thinking of it how it is happened? Because if some used small amount to gamble frequently, it not supposed to repeat itself for the same amount to be payout every time. It looks suspicious.
Who do you call "original gamblers" I don't understand, someone here said they have already played this game Mega Gems from Betsoft and got the same results as above in the picture from OP? I didn't see that so I guess the post should have been deleted unfortunately... I've never played this slot since it doesn't seem to be available at the casinos where I gamble usually. But you can try a demo on the provider (Betsoft) website. And when I played there I didn't get a series of several winnings with the same number like in the OP picture above. So I would be a little bit surprised if a regular player of this game had told that. But maybe the amounts shown on the picture are not the payouts but just the amounts bet of the winning spins. https://betsoft.com/play-demo/?id=900
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September 30, 2023, 10:18:40 PM |
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If this raised a concern with you especially with Slots game then you might be much more curious when you see dice gambling platforms where high rollers winning streak with much higher bet or winnings than this.
This is pretty much common on RNG games on casino as you can minimize you multiplier to make sure that you'll have a higher chance of winning each bets. If you're that curious or suspicious on the bet, some platforms offer you to see and verify the bets shown but some won't and it varies on the player if they'll allow the public to verify their bets.
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I saw something that caught my attention. I've recently been curious about the live payout displays in online casinos and wanted to gather some insights from the community. It seems that sometimes, when observing these live payouts, there are instances of repeated results, and I'm wondering if this is normal or if there might be something more to it. my question here is 1.Have you observed repeated IDs and payouts while playing in online casinos, and do you think these patterns are a cause for concern? 2.Are these displays genuinely based on real-time data, or could there be instances of manipulation or programmed repetition? Some how I feel these data aren't updated and are only programmed so as to attract more players into using their casino.
I think you can check it yourself, click on that name and see his betting patterns, if it seems true, then nothing is out of the norm. But there could be casinos out there that who knows, maybe they are rigging the results or something. But in any case, it's hard to see in the image that you posted, it's incomplete as far as I'm concern. And it could be the amount of bets that the user that you are seeing here that's why it's the same and base on the timestamp, it could be the case. At least that's how I see it on my end.
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I don't play casino games that depend on luck for the person to win, but since you posted this concern, my advice is that you post the link that directs the part where you took this image so we can check, I don't understand why you just posted it a photo and no posting link and the name of the casino. you are not accusing the casino of anything, you just have this doubt, so I don't see any problem in posting the casino link and the name of the casino, another thing is that in the photo there is no part that shows that these values are the withdrawals , so we cannot consider this as withdrawals, it could be the values of people's earnings. That's why it's important in cases like these where someone has a certain doubt to post a link that leads to the website they have doubts about, and also to post a complete photo of the thing, so we can see what's really happening.
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Since slots is made up of scripts in RNG, the account probably triggers one of the RNG scripts that have the same result. There is also this one slot that I watched that triggers a script of an infinite loop of hits resulting in max win after 4 hours of looping.
I think this is normal, I also experience this kind of result in the slot, the only difference is that I got 0 wins instead of that $0.25(continuous red streak for 20 bets).
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September 30, 2023, 11:59:45 PM |
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I don't see anything strange in the screenshot you posted! What you see is not repeated results but a player (joed1) playing the same slot game (Mega Gems) and most likely he is playing it on auto-bet (min 0.25 USD) . This is why the bet amount didn't change, nothing strange really. My guess is that you took this screenshot from some unpopular casino and this is why there aren't many bets during two or more minutes, am I right?
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There's nothing strange about it for me either. Repeated results happen. It's not surprising. The exact amount of payout is basically the result of an exact amount of bet. It's probably on auto mode and the amount of bet is constant. That the payouts sometimes happen at the exact time is because the time shown doesn't include the seconds, and spins or rolls happen every second or even split of a second. So in a minute, several spins could already be done.
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October 01, 2023, 03:18:10 AM |
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~ 1.Have you observed repeated IDs and payouts while playing in online casinos, and do you think these patterns are a cause for concern? 2.Are these displays genuinely based on real-time data, or could there be instances of manipulation or programmed repetition? Some how I feel these data aren't updated and are only programmed so as to attract more players into using their casino.
Yes and no. They're simply accounts that use bots to play the game, and due to how fast it cycles through, the live display pretty much shows them winning multiple times in a row. In reality, there's probably a bunch of losses in between those wins instead of it being concurrent wins. As for two, I'd say it should be based on real-time data in reputable casinos at least. I wouldn't pull out that their fake though, new casinos probably do that to attract players into thinking some people actually play there as you've said. There might be some casinos that show the TX or something similar though and in those cases it's pretty easy to check whether the game actually happened or not though.
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F09%2F30%2FPyLRJ.png&t=665&c=50VuqEdvFCIa3g) I saw something that caught my attention. I've recently been curious about the live payout displays in online casinos and wanted to gather some insights from the community. It seems that sometimes, when observing these live payouts, there are instances of repeated results, and I'm wondering if this is normal or if there might be something more to it. my question here is 1.Have you observed repeated IDs and payouts while playing in online casinos, and do you think these patterns are a cause for concern? 2.Are these displays genuinely based on real-time data, or could there be instances of manipulation or programmed repetition? Some how I feel these data aren't updated and are only programmed so as to attract more players into using their casino. I believe you took it from betcoin, so lets see the full information of their live bets history below: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F10%2F01%2FPVHl2.png&t=665&c=1RdFjZAEvIedgA) It is clear that the number on your screenshot (under the "Amount") refers to the bet amount made by the players, not the payout as what you think because the payout is located in the last column (next to multiplier). All in all there is nothing wrong with the one you try to bring here as shown on your image, it is just misunderstanding from your side.
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