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November 04, 2023, 01:18:15 PM
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Added to the undercard is Ohara Davies vs. Ismael Barroso.


I think I'll check out these boxers first because I'm not familiar with them. What I really want to see is the main event, as I'm looking forward to watching Ryan Garcia's comeback after his loss against Tank Davis. I'm sure he's had enough time to think and will be more motivated to train since he's experienced a loss. He's no longer undefeated, so it's like he's starting from scratch to prove himself to the world.

You should take a look at these boxers, especially Ohara Davies, who hasn't lost a fight since 2018. I believe he can easily defeat Ismael Barroso from Venezuela because Barroso is already quite old at 40 years, nearing retirement age.

However, in case he loses, I guess that defeat against Davis might have really affected his confidence. The mental aspect could become a topic of discussion, maybe even an excuse.
Every boxer tends to have their reasons when they lose a fight. If Ryan Garcia didn't make excuses after his loss to Tank Davis, I doubt he'll come up with that kind of excuse now. The boxing community would probably not take it well if he can't accept defeat.

Looking at Oscar Duarte Jurado's record, it's quite impressive. He's known for knocking out his opponents, and that makes him a dangerous opponent for Garcia, especially considering that Garcia has been knocked out before.
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November 04, 2023, 04:19:01 PM
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Every boxer tends to have their reasons when they lose a fight. If Ryan Garcia didn't make excuses after his loss to Tank Davis, I doubt he'll come up with that kind of excuse now. The boxing community would probably not take it well if he can't accept defeat.
He has no reason to make an excuse it's his comeback fight and he is obliged to do all the necessary preparation to make a successful comeback he cannot afford to lose now, the stake is very high in this fight, Ryan badly needs to win and he needs to win impressively and also Duarte needs a big leap in his career and this is his big chance to make a big leap.

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Looking at Oscar Duarte Jurado's record, it's quite impressive. He's known for knocking out his opponents, and that makes him a dangerous opponent for Garcia, especially considering that Garcia has been knocked out before.
Have you seen their faceoff, Duarte shows no fear and respect for Ryan he wants to show to everybody and to Ryan too that he can beat Ryan because he has weak spots that can be exploited. Whoever wins this fight will have a big turnaround in their boxing career, I know Ryan will still be a favorite here and he should correct whatever mistakes he made in his last fight

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November 05, 2023, 11:53:00 AM
 #43

Added to the undercard is Ohara Davies vs. Ismael Barroso.


I think I'll check out these boxers first because I'm not familiar with them. What I really want to see is the main event, as I'm looking forward to watching Ryan Garcia's comeback after his loss against Tank Davis. I'm sure he's had enough time to think and will be more motivated to train since he's experienced a loss. He's no longer undefeated, so it's like he's starting from scratch to prove himself to the world.

You should take a look at these boxers, especially Ohara Davies, who hasn't lost a fight since 2018. I believe he can easily defeat Ismael Barroso from Venezuela because Barroso is already quite old at 40 years, nearing retirement age.

A 40-year-old boxer, I guess I already know who would win. Even Pacman, who is one of the greatest, struggled when he reached that age and eventually retired from boxing. This guy Barroso is just an ordinary boxer, so I would not expect a lot from him. Besides, it's not the main attraction, though.


However, in case he loses, I guess that defeat against Davis might have really affected his confidence. The mental aspect could become a topic of discussion, maybe even an excuse.
Every boxer tends to have their reasons when they lose a fight. If Ryan Garcia didn't make excuses after his loss to Tank Davis, I doubt he'll come up with that kind of excuse now. The boxing community would probably not take it well if he can't accept defeat.

Looking at Oscar Duarte Jurado's record, it's quite impressive. He's known for knocking out his opponents, and that makes him a dangerous opponent for Garcia, especially considering that Garcia has been knocked out before.

Well, so this means we are going to see an exciting fight. If Ryan makes a successful comeback, we will probably see him fight a champion in the future. But for now, his only focus is on beating Duarte. Thanks for the video you shared, @coin-investor. It's good to know that Duarte has great confidence in winning this fight.

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November 05, 2023, 12:02:59 PM
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Man, Garcia still seeking on his first world title but Duarte is still a tough opponent , though not as tough as Gervonta, but Garcia still needs to improve his skills and tighten his chin and stamina for him to keep up with the elite fighter globally.
I know Garcia is still young and has still a lot of room to improve but I hope he's now more cautious and tripled his effort on his upcoming fights.
This could be a good bounce back fight for Garcia after his big loss to Davis, I'm sure Garcia already learned the lesson here and will improve more.
Looking at the previous fights of Duarte, it loos like he's a tough opponent as well so if Garcia wants to win here I agree that he should tripled his effort on improving his skills and his self so he can match the energy of his opponent. This can be an exciting match, and I'm still rooting for Gracia on this match.

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November 05, 2023, 12:06:48 PM
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^^ I mean that's how the stare down should happened though, this boxers doesn't want to show some sign of weakness and so the first one to break in the stare down will look weak and Ryan doesn't want that. Besides, he has a lot of experienced facing good boxers and knockout artist so he just want to impose his will in the beginning and get a psychological advantage.

But I do agree that this could be a great fight, we will see Rya bouncing back from that Tank's lost and he chooses a knockout artist in Duarte. Maybe he wanted to  really test himself again and specially with his new trainer in his side. So this is just the kick off presser and for sure Ryan being the social media king, might tweet something to start the trash talk.

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November 05, 2023, 12:09:53 PM
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^^ I mean that's how the stare down should happened though, this boxers doesn't want to show some sign of weakness and so the first one to break in the stare down will look weak and Ryan doesn't want that. Besides, he has a lot of experienced facing good boxers and knockout artist so he just want to impose his will in the beginning and get a psychological advantage.

But I do agree that this could be a great fight, we will see Rya bouncing back from that Tank's lost and he chooses a knockout artist in Duarte. Maybe he wanted to  really test himself again and specially with his new trainer in his side. So this is just the kick off presser and for sure Ryan being the social media king, might tweet something to start the trash talk.

this is by no means a cherry pick for garcia as duarte's record is impressive. so yeah, maybe, garcia's camp wants to test his strength to a KO artist. if garcia can pull it off, maybe, they can get a bigger name on the table.
the preparation is only a month. garcia is still the favourite here. but if you fancy an upset, well, you can pick duarte here.

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November 06, 2023, 12:18:55 PM
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Man, Garcia still seeking on his first world title but Duarte is still a tough opponent , though not as tough as Gervonta, but Garcia still needs to improve his skills and tighten his chin and stamina for him to keep up with the elite fighter globally.
I know Garcia is still young and has still a lot of room to improve but I hope he's now more cautious and tripled his effort on his upcoming fights.
This could be a good bounce back fight for Garcia after his big loss to Davis, I'm sure Garcia already learned the lesson here and will improve more.
Looking at the previous fights of Duarte, it loos like he's a tough opponent as well so if Garcia wants to win here I agree that he should tripled his effort on improving his skills and his self so he can match the energy of his opponent. This can be an exciting match, and I'm still rooting for Gracia on this match.

Tough indeed and like what @AmoreJaz have said above that this is not a cherry picked opponent, as far as the record is concerned. By merely looking at the record of Duarte alone, i could say that Team Garcia is pretty serious on bouncing back after that KO loss to Davis. That was record breaking on the Ryan's part so picking a tough opponent for a bounce back is the way to go.
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November 06, 2023, 12:23:16 PM
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Garcia like Tank Davis said has poor boxing technics and I have to agree with that, Garcia is almost like the popular YouTubers who are turning to be boxers the only difference is that Garcia has a very strong left hook aside that his boxing game is poor.

I don't know much about Oscar Duarte but I think he is also atmost an average boxer and Garcia even with his poor Technics should be able to put him away with a strong left hook that connects well.

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November 06, 2023, 12:37:13 PM
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Garcia like Tank Davis said has poor boxing technics and I have to agree with that, Garcia is almost like the popular YouTubers who are turning to be boxers the only difference is that Garcia has a very strong left hook aside that his boxing game is poor.

I don't know much about Oscar Duarte but I think he is also atmost an average boxer and Garcia even with his poor Technics should be able to put him away with a strong left hook that connects well.

Tank Davis has the right to claim that because he defeated Ryan Garcia, he is the only boxer who has defeated King Ray. However, let's set aside Tank Davis for now as he has already reached a different level. Ryan is making his comeback, so let's see if he succeeds in that.

I'd also like to see Tank Davis fight Isaac Cruz in a rematch since Cruz is a tough opponent to crack. Their previous fight went the distance, lasting 12 rounds, and Davis won via unanimous decision. It was a highly entertaining fight as Isaac Cruz showed no fear of Tank Davis's power.

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November 07, 2023, 10:53:32 AM
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Garcia like Tank Davis said has poor boxing technics and I have to agree with that, Garcia is almost like the popular YouTubers who are turning to be boxers the only difference is that Garcia has a very strong left hook aside that his boxing game is poor.
I think he is a professional boxer first, before his social media successful. And I think it's the cause and effect of it, at a very young age he was a good boxer and so he has a lot of fans. And then him exposing more of himself in the social media, make him even more famous and create big hype. And as a result although he has lost against Tank Davis, there fight is the biggest fight for this year, generating 20++ millions in PPV alone.

I don't know much about Oscar Duarte but I think he is also atmost an average boxer and Garcia even with his poor Technics should be able to put him away with a strong left hook that connects well.
In paper he seems to be a good boxer, with a high percentage of knockouts. And I would compare him to Luke Campbell whom Ryan face before, good boxer and has a decent power and then Ryan was caught experiencing his first knock down. So I think in the beginning it will be very difficult for Ryan but once he got his rhythm and landed his left hook he could win by a KO.

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I don't know much about Oscar Duarte but I think he is also atmost an average boxer and Garcia even with his poor Technics should be able to put him away with a strong left hook that connects well.
In paper he seems to be a good boxer, with a high percentage of knockouts. And I would compare him to Luke Campbell whom Ryan face before, good boxer and has a decent power and then Ryan was caught experiencing his first knock down. So I think in the beginning it will be very difficult for Ryan but once he got his rhythm and landed his left hook he could win by a KO.
This marks a new beginning for Ryan Garcia. His loss to Tank cannot linger in his mind; he should continue to work hard until he gets the opportunity to fight for a championship. It's not too late for him; many boxers have made comebacks after significant losses. To start, he needs to secure an impressive victory, and by that, I mean winning by knockout.

It would be quite interesting to read the story of him beating a KO artist with a KO. It's sure to capture the attention of fans, and they'll begin hyping up Ryan's name once more.

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I don't know much about Oscar Duarte but I think he is also atmost an average boxer and Garcia even with his poor Technics should be able to put him away with a strong left hook that connects well.
In paper he seems to be a good boxer, with a high percentage of knockouts. And I would compare him to Luke Campbell whom Ryan face before, good boxer and has a decent power and then Ryan was caught experiencing his first knock down. So I think in the beginning it will be very difficult for Ryan but once he got his rhythm and landed his left hook he could win by a KO.
This marks a new beginning for Ryan Garcia. His loss to Tank cannot linger in his mind; he should continue to work hard until he gets the opportunity to fight for a championship. It's not too late for him; many boxers have made comebacks after significant losses. To start, he needs to secure an impressive victory, and by that, I mean winning by knockout.

It would be quite interesting to read the story of him beating a KO artist with a KO. It's sure to capture the attention of fans, and they'll begin hyping up Ryan's name once more.

Definitely he has to move on, but there could be fighters that after a devasting lost, can't get over it. And we all know that Ryan has a history of mental breakdown, so this is going to be a big test for him, to see if he can forget about that lost of him and then still go forward in his career and continue and to become a world champion again.

However, it's hard to compare fight of him though, it's a different strategy as he will have a new coach for this fight. Maybe he will play defense or just uses more offense in this fight as he is also known to be a good knockout artist and he has one of the best looking left hook in the game right now. So he will for sure utilized this tools to try and go for a knockout against a KO artist.

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November 19, 2023, 08:40:57 AM
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^^ I mean that's how the stare down should happened though, this boxers doesn't want to show some sign of weakness and so the first one to break in the stare down will look weak and Ryan doesn't want that. Besides, he has a lot of experienced facing good boxers and knockout artist so he just want to impose his will in the beginning and get a psychological advantage.

But I do agree that this could be a great fight, we will see Rya bouncing back from that Tank's lost and he chooses a knockout artist in Duarte. Maybe he wanted to  really test himself again and specially with his new trainer in his side. So this is just the kick off presser and for sure Ryan being the social media king, might tweet something to start the trash talk.

this is by no means a cherry pick for garcia as duarte's record is impressive. so yeah, maybe, garcia's camp wants to test his strength to a KO artist. if garcia can pull it off, maybe, they can get a bigger name on the table.
the preparation is only a month. garcia is still the favourite here. but if you fancy an upset, well, you can pick duarte here.

Yes, they want to see if Ryan can still be as powerful in 140 lbs and they want to test him against a very tough opponent in Duarte. Fight is getting nearer, wanted to see how Ryan will promote it.

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I have always been a star I never had the opportunity to show it due to my platform not doing PPV at the time.

I always knew that if I did a PPV it would do great and it did 1.2M PPV buys. I’m also aware enough that if you just put every fight on PPV you will do horrible number like 150k-200k losing your company money and robbing the fans and people who want to see you. Need to be selective.

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1724808129706332315

So yes, he is talking about becoming a PPV stars, and we can't deny it as him and Tank did the most PPV numbers for this year so far If I'm not mistaken. So this fight will be again another testament if Ryan can bring fans to watch his fight and still make a good money if his dance partner is not well known.

Just unfair though that this podcast host says that Tank is not a star and in their fight, it was Ryan who carry it. But I believed otherwise, both of them are PPV stars and that's why the numbers is showing to us with that 1.2 million PPV buys.

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So yes, he is talking about becoming a PPV stars, and we can't deny it as him and Tank did the most PPV numbers for this year so far If I'm not mistaken. So this fight will be again another testament if Ryan can bring fans to watch his fight and still make a good money if his dance partner is not well known.

Just unfair though that this podcast host says that Tank is not a star and in their fight, it was Ryan who carry it. But I believed otherwise, both of them are PPV stars and that's why the numbers is showing to us with that 1.2 million PPV buys.

Sorry to say that in order to have good PPV buys, you need to have a good dance partner so this might be the reason why they chose Duarte because in paper, he is good but remains to be seen in reality if indeed he can bring the fight to Ryan Garcia and entertain the fans. For this fight alone, i don't think that it could get a quarter of that 1.2 million PPV when Garcia fought Tank Davis. For some, they will see this fight as a tune-up or a bounce-back fight after that devastating loss to the Tank.

The fight will be in less than two weeks from now and there is not much movement on the odds, still Ryan Garcia is the favorite to win and bookies predicts that he would KO Duarte.
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this is by no means a cherry pick for garcia as duarte's record is impressive. so yeah, maybe, garcia's camp wants to test his strength to a KO artist. if garcia can pull it off, maybe, they can get a bigger name on the table.
the preparation is only a month. garcia is still the favourite here. but if you fancy an upset, well, you can pick duarte here.

They really not playing around by picking a kind of opponent like Duarte because this is a decent fight between these two. Also, it's hard to predict who will gonna win this fight because to pull an upset for someone who has just tasted his first loss seems impossible unless Garcia has lost his confidence and cannot get up and move on from that loss anymore. Nevertheless, it's nice to see Garcia back in action and this will undoubtedly be a fight that most boxing fans want to see, they wanna see how is Garcia doing after that loss against Tank Davis.

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November 22, 2023, 01:09:12 PM
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this is by no means a cherry pick for garcia as duarte's record is impressive. so yeah, maybe, garcia's camp wants to test his strength to a KO artist. if garcia can pull it off, maybe, they can get a bigger name on the table.
the preparation is only a month. garcia is still the favourite here. but if you fancy an upset, well, you can pick duarte here.

They really not playing around by picking a kind of opponent like Duarte because this is a decent fight between these two. Also, it's hard to predict who will gonna win this fight because to pull an upset for someone who has just tasted his first loss seems impossible unless Garcia has lost his confidence and cannot get up and move on from that loss anymore. Nevertheless, it's nice to see Garcia back in action and this will undoubtedly be a fight that most boxing fans want to see, they wanna see how is Garcia doing after that loss against Tank Davis.

Let's say it's a 55/45 split, giving Garcia a slight edge in terms of chances. Duarte is undeniably a promising boxer, and I'm certain his camp sees this as a fast track to a bigger fight if he can best Garcia. Ideally, both fighters would approach the match with equal confidence, making for an interesting showdown. Garcia's favored status is mainly due to his impressive record before his loss to Tank Davis. However, if he takes another hit, the bookies might not show him the same respect in the future.

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November 22, 2023, 01:11:44 PM
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this is by no means a cherry pick for garcia as duarte's record is impressive. so yeah, maybe, garcia's camp wants to test his strength to a KO artist. if garcia can pull it off, maybe, they can get a bigger name on the table.
the preparation is only a month. garcia is still the favourite here. but if you fancy an upset, well, you can pick duarte here.

They really not playing around by picking a kind of opponent like Duarte because this is a decent fight between these two. Also, it's hard to predict who will gonna win this fight because to pull an upset for someone who has just tasted his first loss seems impossible unless Garcia has lost his confidence and cannot get up and move on from that loss anymore. Nevertheless, it's nice to see Garcia back in action and this will undoubtedly be a fight that most boxing fans want to see, they wanna see how is Garcia doing after that loss against Tank Davis.

Garcia can't be a zero loss undisputed he already has a loss so what else is there to be afraid of, just fight someone who is bigger if possible to fight a champ in the upper weight class. But Duarte isn't as tough as he is so to me, this is still a cherry picking imo. Duarte is not a top 5 fighter, not sure if there is a fight of him that a boxing fan can remember unless he follows Duarte for some reason.


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this is by no means a cherry pick for garcia as duarte's record is impressive. so yeah, maybe, garcia's camp wants to test his strength to a KO artist. if garcia can pull it off, maybe, they can get a bigger name on the table.
the preparation is only a month. garcia is still the favourite here. but if you fancy an upset, well, you can pick duarte here.

They really not playing around by picking a kind of opponent like Duarte because this is a decent fight between these two. Also, it's hard to predict who will gonna win this fight because to pull an upset for someone who has just tasted his first loss seems impossible unless Garcia has lost his confidence and cannot get up and move on from that loss anymore. Nevertheless, it's nice to see Garcia back in action and this will undoubtedly be a fight that most boxing fans want to see, they wanna see how is Garcia doing after that loss against Tank Davis.

Garcia can't be a zero loss undisputed he already has a loss so what else is there to be afraid of, just fight someone who is bigger if possible to fight a champ in the upper weight class. But Duarte isn't as tough as he is so to me, this is still a cherry picking imo. Duarte is not a top 5 fighter, not sure if there is a fight of him that a boxing fan can remember unless he follows Duarte for some reason.


Duarte is ranked at number 9 in the WBO Lightweight division. This alone indicates that he may not be considered a top-tier boxer just yet. However, what likely impresses fans is his impressive boxing record. Currently, he has 26 wins, with an impressive 21 of those coming from knockouts. Also, let us not forget that he remains undefeated as well.

Check his record https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/671857

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Oscar Duarte has an impressive record of 26-1-1, with 21 of his opponents got KOed so i think he is a live opponent for Garcia.
I've seen a lot of responses about boxing between Ryan Garcia vs. Oscar Duarte, which will take place next December, some people want Ryan to win this fight, even though he has stopped boxing, but he had a mixed response from some circles of boxing fans.

But for me personally and in my opinion, boxing this time is against Ryan Garcia vs. Oscar Duarte, this is a dangerous opponent for Ryan. I have seen a lot of how Oscar plays his boxing style in the ring, I think Ryan has chosen the wrong opponent, I think the end of the match made Ryan's camp regret that they chose Oscar as their opponent.

In my opinion, Ryan should be met first with a boxer who is his equal, not directly against Oscar. I think Ryan needs to feel confident and rebuild after experiencing a knockout.

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So yes, he is talking about becoming a PPV stars, and we can't deny it as him and Tank did the most PPV numbers for this year so far If I'm not mistaken. So this fight will be again another testament if Ryan can bring fans to watch his fight and still make a good money if his dance partner is not well known.

Just unfair though that this podcast host says that Tank is not a star and in their fight, it was Ryan who carry it. But I believed otherwise, both of them are PPV stars and that's why the numbers is showing to us with that 1.2 million PPV buys.

Sorry to say that in order to have good PPV buys, you need to have a good dance partner so this might be the reason why they chose Duarte because in paper, he is good but remains to be seen in reality if indeed he can bring the fight to Ryan Garcia and entertain the fans. For this fight alone, i don't think that it could get a quarter of that 1.2 million PPV when Garcia fought Tank Davis. For some, they will see this fight as a tune-up or a bounce-back fight after that devastating loss to the Tank.

The fight will be in less than two weeks from now and there is not much movement on the odds, still Ryan Garcia is the favorite to win and bookies predicts that he would KO Duarte.

Yes, and that's what I'm trying to say, Davis and Ryan really brought everything in their fights, and that's why they have the PPV records for this year. So it's 50/50 for them but not sure what percentage did Ryan get from that PPV.

Hopefully that will be the case, Ryan winning by KO and then the whole boxing community is going to be hype again for him and dreaming of Ryan fighting the best at 140 lbs, specially Teo Lopez. This is the fight that I want to see as Teo has one belt and both of them are trash talker.

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