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October 06, 2023, 02:09:33 PM
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There is also localcoinswap. I have been using it on and off for a while with no issues.
Regular link:https://localcoinswap.com
Referral Link https://localcoinswap.com/?rc=6850A0CC

Just keep in mind offers too good to be true, usually are. i.e. nobody is going to give 20% over the value of your coin but you still see those offers pop up.

The other question is what do YOU consider KYC?
Email address?
Email + phone number (to get sms)?
Email + phone + physical address, but they don't actually check the physical address, just take your word for it.
And so on.

Everyone is going to have their own level of acceptable info.

Side note, if you want to use lightning instead of USDT there is also robosats

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October 06, 2023, 02:22:33 PM
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As far as I know with P2P you can make a transaction even if you do not pass KYC as long as you have not yet reached the maximum limit of their withdrawal amount. And as far as I know OKX, and Kucoin can do that.

Now, if you have no other choice, you can do nothing if you really give or submit a KYC too. After all, you can't bring it out or to convert it to your fiat, right? But try to find out on Google Dude, forr now I can't provide full details due to I'm using mobile device.


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October 06, 2023, 03:00:38 PM
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Use hodlhodl is what I think is the best among the options that remain.
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Bisq does not have USDT pair.

Correct me if I am wrong. You can only buy or sell bitcoin using USDT. OP has USDT and want to cash it out for fiat, so even Hodlhodl many not be an option. If he does not want to convert the USDT to any other coin, then Localcoinswap.com might be the only known popular option OP can use

Alternative, he could just convert the USDT to Bitcoin using instant exchanges that don't require KYC like Exch.cx and then;
use Agoradesk, HodlHodl, Bisq to get his fiat

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October 06, 2023, 03:31:14 PM
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You can look for a local p2p trader in your area or if you have any of them on Watsapp, because I could remember that when there was NP exchanges, exchange is done through a Watsapp group but you must trust the person before you trade with him. You can also check on the forum service board as there might be forum members from your country that are into such service. If you don't see any of this option then you should use the exchanges provided to you by Charles-Tim and Omega stream. Bitcoin ATM isn't advisable base on the fee.

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October 06, 2023, 04:14:38 PM
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Take advantage of the services of a trusted local exchange partner, I see this thread has been published for years and seems to have received many satisfied reviews. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2403266.0

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If I am not wrong then you can use Paxful for the exchange. This is possible through Peer to Peer exchange that jd available at Paxful. Paxful allows users to exchange or trade upto 1000$ without any KYC. So do check that out and sell the coins if possible. I am not promoting paxful here, but yes this is the only trusted P2P exchange that is running in the market. Before transacting or depositing any coin in paxful, do check their terms and conditions for better clarity.

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It's really not possible to turn it into fiat without doing p2p. If you really want to do it, you are going to be forced to trade it with a person face to face, I mean it doesn't have to be face to face but basically you give them your bank details, they send you the money and you send them the USDT, that's the only way, this can be done online too but you may not trust anyone, so make sure they send the money first, and not something like paypal because they can chargeback. It is all around risky and dangerous, I would highly suggest that it is not going to end up with anything good, I would definitely consider this as bad idea and should be done differently.

Just give your KYC to any exchange that requires it, unless you are a wanted criminal then you shouldn't have any issues because your KYC at an exchange doesn't  raise any flags unless you are a criminal. And if you are a criminal then you shouldn't be trading crypto at all and just give yourself to the police.

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October 06, 2023, 09:29:18 PM
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I also seeing many people selling bank accounts on my local online shop, but of course, it's illegal, the seller might be taking it back to the account after I deposited the money.
Never trust them. It's too risky.

If KYC, I can exchange it on Binance or my local exchange where all have paired with USDT. But I won't it, because I don't want people to know my identity when withdraw it into my local bank.
It's dilemma.
Try doing it with direct P2P, not P2P Binance or other exchanges. It seems that in the past, one of our local members accepted crypto exchange transactions to fiat. So you can transact directly with him. If we look at it, he is quite trustworthy because he used to place advertisements on signature banners too. However, to ensure whether he still accepts P2P or not, just contact him directly via PM.

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...However, how about using Binance P2P? If users from your country is allowed to trade on Binance exchange, then you should go for it. Performing tier 1 KYC on Binance does not take much of your personal information, it only requires you to verify your phone number, email address and will be able trade your cryptocurrencies through P2P with users from your country.

Where did you get this information from? The email address and phone number will not be enough to pass KYC on the Binance. To pass the KYC procedure on Binance, you will need at least a state-issued identity card and a faces recognition procedure. And for operations with fiat, address verification will also be required. Exactly what OP wants to avoid.

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I don't think you're in a position where you have a choice whether to protect your identity but still get the chance to withdraw your USDT. I understand that you're concerned about your anonymity but there's no other secure way to conduct P2P trading other than with CEXs that require KYC before you can get into the process of P2P. There are other P2P centers out there and you could ask people in here to do that for you but then again remember that it comes with the risk of getting scammed, so be careful with what you deal with.

It's just the way things go here in the cryptocurrency world, you can't have your cake and eat it too sometimes. There's always risk involved.
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I think you got answe already, however you will share bank details with buyer even if you choose any platform.  The best option is to choose ATM but after research I think there is no ATM in your country. Bisq,Hodl are best option then but I think if you want to convert bug fund then don't do at once which is not secured as authority could check your bank transaction. Some users suggested selling to local forum members but you in case you will reveal bank account details which is not looking secure to me.


However, how about using Binance P2P? If users from your country is allowed to trade on Binance exchange, then you should go for it. Performing tier 1 KYC on Binance does not take much of your personal information, it only requires you to verify your phone number, email address and will be able trade your cryptocurrencies through P2P with users from your country.


Binance doesn't offering P2P service to Non KYC users. Users have to pass full face verification and ID card verification for this. Binance P2P is fast and safe but KYC is problem which OP doesn't want to do.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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If you don’t have lots to sell then you can either find a Bitcoin ATM somewhere in your area but expect to lose about 10% in fees alone.
unfortunately, I couldn't find a bitcoin ATM in my country because was banned since long time ago.

3. Some local Facebook group. Just make sure to do the transaction in a well secured place like a mall
Social media is the best choice, but for beginners like me, I am still confused to comparing who a scammer and a legit seller.

But this is not to promote the exchange so you should do so with caution. Link
thanks that's very helpful, but I won't dare to do up to $500.

The other question is what do YOU consider KYC?
Email + phone + physical address, but they don't actually check the physical address, just take your word for it.
And so on.
I don't dare those 3 option, but KYC I means is proof the ID card and my real name.




I still confused, Is there a bank without KYC?

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So, I have USDT. But I don't want to register for centralization exchange where I must KYC to exchange USDT into my local Fiat. What can I do? how to exchange it?

Fiat is regulated by central banks, to get your hands on it the quickest way, you should be ready for KYC but alternative as others have suggested, make use of Bisq and HodlHodl but the rate conversation will be slightly lower than other centralized exchanges that patronize more customers. But if I may, there should be a dedicated local board for you where you can do this easily, there are fiat sellers and buyers here on the forum, that's should be fine but checki their reputation or if you must, get an escrow but that also comes with a charges.

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If KYC, I can exchange it on Binance or my local exchange where all have paired with USDT. But I won't it, because I don't want people to know my identity when withdraw it into my local bank.

I also seeing many people selling bank accounts on my local online shop, but of course, it's illegal, the seller might be taking it back to the account after I deposited the money.

this is very confusing me, I can exchange BTC to USDT without KYC and register using eXch exchange, but still confused to cash (USDT) into my local fiat and spending it.

These will land you in prison faster than than kyc you are trying to avoid. Don't buy a stolen bank account, even if the seller accept third party account, it's more like money laundering and the person in originally in charge of the account can report the destination of the money.

You don't have to under go long process of converting from USDT, your BTC will converted in real time to fiat and that's what the seller is going to be sending for you. Just indicate your local board or language and go to the market board and create a thread that you want to exchange BTC to a fiat, there should be a person ready to come for your service. Some may ask for charges though.

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So, I have USDT. But I don't want to register for centralization exchange where I must KYC to exchange USDT into my local Fiat. What can I do? how to exchange it?

If KYC, I can exchange it on Binance or my local exchange where all have paired with USDT. But I won't it, because I don't want people to know my identity when withdraw it into my local bank.

I also seeing many people selling bank accounts on my local online shop, but of course, it's illegal, the seller might be taking it back to the account after I deposited the money.

this is very confusing me, I can exchange BTC to USDT without KYC and register using eXch exchange, but still confused to cash (USDT) into my local fiat and spending it.
If you want to keep your anonymity while cashing out some of your bitcoin holdings then you have no other option but to try a P2P trade.

But this option has three problems, the first is that fees are going to be very high, you cannot cash out a lot of money at once, and you may run the risk of finding someone that could try to scam you, steal your coins or if you are in a country where bitcoin is banned, you could even met an undercover cop and go to jail because of this.

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October 08, 2023, 09:18:20 AM
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So, I have USDT. But I don't want to register for centralization exchange where I must KYC to exchange USDT into my local Fiat. What can I do? how to exchange it?

If KYC, I can exchange it on Binance or my local exchange where all have paired with USDT. But I won't it, because I don't want people to know my identity when withdraw it into my local bank.

I also seeing many people selling bank accounts on my local online shop, but of course, it's illegal, the seller might be taking it back to the account after I deposited the money.

this is very confusing me, I can exchange BTC to USDT without KYC and register using eXch exchange, but still confused to cash (USDT) into my local fiat and spending it.

P2P would be an option for you, but that is a little risky, as you all know nowadays scammers are everywhere. So, you have to do KYC, there are many exchanges like MEXC, for trading you don't need to do KYC, but for exchanging to local fiat you must do KYC, as I haven't seen any exchange in which we can sell USDT without KYC.

You can go for the P2P option but the person should be trustable, so you can easily transfer your USDT. Another problem is if the government in your country has banned bitcoin trading in your country, then there would be a risk in P2P trading, maybe you lose your assets, which I can't suggest to you then. Also, Binance is not going to offer its non-KYC users P2P trading, you have to pass the verification of some security terms to do P2P trading.

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October 08, 2023, 01:34:40 PM
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So, I have USDT. But I don't want to register for centralization exchange where I must KYC to exchange USDT into my local Fiat. What can I do? how to exchange it?

If KYC, I can exchange it on Binance or my local exchange where all have paired with USDT. But I won't it, because I don't want people to know my identity when withdraw it into my local bank.

I also seeing many people selling bank accounts on my local online shop, but of course, it's illegal, the seller might be taking it back to the account after I deposited the money.

this is very confusing me, I can exchange BTC to USDT without KYC and register using eXch exchange, but still confused to cash (USDT) into my local fiat and spending it.

Hard to find that option since most of the platform ask KYC to their consumer so its not possible for you to withdraw your balance unless you obey to submit your KYC feature to them. But there's one option you can do and find a person who's willing to buy bitcoin on your nearest place. Do meetup since its hard to do p2p online since to many scammers wandering on this space. So much better that you can see personally those person you want to deal with to make sure that transaction became smooth and no issue will happen.

But much advisable if you do KYC since this could make your life more easier and just ignore your negative thoughts about it since KYC submission became a normal procedure to all crypto user so that they can fully access all features of the platform also you will not have any problem regarding on cashing out your balance or if you want to deposit.

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October 08, 2023, 01:52:39 PM
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if you really don't want to do the KYC then the only thing that is left is to do P2P transactions. but it has its own pros and cons. The pros being you don't need to share your information with centralized exchanges, so your privacy stay safe. you are not required to share any information regarding the transaction.
but the cons are you need to meet with strangers, do a face to face transaction, in which that guy can follow you if you're not careful enough and end up at your home if they have bad intentions. also there's a problem of being getting recognized by law enforcement people. I'm from a country where Bitcoin is banned, and I know how dangerous this is. if you get caught you could be put into jail.
you could also get robbed if you are not careful enough while doing P2P trading.

I guess if you are really concerned about your privacy then you must take the risk and try to find the best guy for P2P transaction. but if not then I guess you are fine with doing KYC and then converting your USDT into your local Fiat.

I am not going to suggest Bitcoin ATM because it's not widely available, and the fee is too high for some people. so the availability is in the question here. it is better not to talk about it if it's not available.
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