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March 18, 2024, 01:39:52 PM
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Hi guys, I am relatively new here haven’t been around only months of this year but, in light of suggestions as to modifications that might instill some consciousness on users of this space, I want to make a suggestion that could prove useful in updates and not necessarily require users to look up other sites for something as vital and utmost necessity like the Bitcoin price.

Personally, I have to look up the Bitcoin price every other day, of course I have done that several times today and the price at the time of my writing this is about $67k - $68k.
I am sure there are a lot other individuals that does this on a regular as well. Especially given the fact that, Bitcoin has been bullish lately.
We have a Wall Observer thread, though it’s got most of its discussions relevant, the most take or point of argument that seems to make the thread it’s best fit is one that isn’t largely looked at on the page or so I think is, the Bitcoin price update. Most of us, using myself for a reference point often goes to other sites like Coinmarket.com, coindesk.com or popular exchanges like Binance et. al to seek price update.

Meanwhile, this is something that could or should be accessed rather easily on the forum. Perhaps the forum don’t hope to consider itself hooked with any site for price update as this would relatively serve promotional purpose to the site indirectly, I think we could have an all in one purpose site that could increase clicks here none the less even though, this isn’t the aim or the community isn’t in any particular need of this but, it would aid users to be here more often.

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While this remains open to suggestions,


I don’t know what it’s like for you guys with higher ranks and already has an avatar display but, I think we’ve got a good enough spaces in two places designated by rectangles on my page.


Edit: Would have liked to edit my suggestions into places but, the device am using at the moment doesn’t have that function. Maybe someone who understands what am postulating can come up with the design.

Possible Results we could get from this:
The forum would be subjective to Google search engine for price update to anyone and everyone.
Possibility of influx of new users
Increased participation as users no longer need to go to other sites for something as little as price update which would in turn, push towards looking up what is new on the forum.
There would be some accurate and more trust in what price the forum is displayed to be authentic.
Increased awareness on what Bitcoin price is doing and this could lead users to invest and hold more.

The good thing this far is that, we’ve got Chartbuddy doing something similar in the WO at the speculation board, perhaps the user should run it on a more open space or some other community staff.

Conclusion:
It would be a plus and more signatory to what the forum is about I think.
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March 18, 2024, 01:44:43 PM
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There are about six topics from last year until now and counting, and I believe the answer will still remain the same. You can just check through the old thread and read through the responses and suggestions about the same issue, as it’s an already-discussed concern.

If you are a desktop user you can just add the Bitcoin price ticker in your extension so that you can be seeing the price update why you browse through the forum and other places on the internet.
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March 18, 2024, 02:05:11 PM
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The forum must remain neutral in relation to other price disclosure platforms. Therefore, having such a table involved presenting data from a third party company.
Doing this only makes sense if the company pays for the forum. But, I doubt there is interest (on the part of the forum) to sell/rent this space.

Furthermore, each price reference website always gives different values (even if the variation is low). And each user has their own price references. That said, I don't think it makes sense for the forum to present this type of information.

As @Hazink post, everyone can have their own information tools, which are always available.

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March 18, 2024, 02:11:00 PM
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Well op, there has been similar suggestion over the years about such feature. it really isn't needed here in the forum interface. Not everyone would want to get a steady update of Bitcoin price, especially the long term hodlers.But I would want to let you know that there's a Bitcointalk browsers extension that you can install on your chrome browsers on your pc that displays a live price update of Bitcoin on your forum screen. It also help to tweak the forum theme, dark or light mode.
I don't know if it works on mobile devices but I used it before on my PC. Here's a link to the thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178297.0

There are also several bots, scripts and add-ons you can install on your browsers extension to help improve your experience. Here's a thread compilation of all Bitcointalk bots and scripts.
LIST Bitcointalk.org Userscripts/ Add-ons / SMF patches

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March 18, 2024, 02:43:50 PM
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The forum must remain neutral in relation to other price disclosure platforms. Therefore, having such a table involved presenting data from a third party company.

You are very correct 💯 as there is no way such feature wouldn't involve a third party associate, so in other to maintain a fair position as regards to platforms that entails price presentations hence, such feature may not be relevant in the forum.

However we have lots of sites and apps to check Bitcoin price movement, in the forum we have wall observer/Bitcoin price movement thread where every member of the forum can easily go to check the current price of Bitcoin while navigating through the forum, the coin market cap. is also available for tracking Bitcoin and other altcoins prices and as well as a lot of exchanges and wallet apps also displays the price of Bitcoin so I see no reason for the inquisitiveness to have a kinda flyer that would be displayed in the homepage about the movements of Bitcoin prices at different intervals.

OP I suggest since some users here have identified that there have been previous posts and discussions that have been made as regards to your opinion in the OP, this topic should be locked.

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March 18, 2024, 03:02:58 PM
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The forum must remain neutral in relation to other price disclosure platforms. Therefore, having such a table involved presenting data from a third party company.
Doing this only makes sense if the company pays for the forum. But, I doubt there is interest (on the part of the forum) to sell/rent this space.

Furthermore, each price reference website always gives different values (even if the variation is low). And each user has their own price references. That said, I don't think it makes sense for the forum to present this type of information.
I had a thought about that when creating this topic, I guess I highlighted the eventuality of this and possible traffic ot might generate to any third party website.

Should it be a paid advert, I don’t know if that is of any necessity to the forum or community but, this too could be worked out. With regards to neutrality I think obvious consideration of data from several sites of a defined range, considered to have gotten some prominence and relevance in the crypto world, averaging the price index for all to serve as STANDARD PRICE could be speaking a uni true while and be in some form of neutrality too.
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March 18, 2024, 03:07:59 PM
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Having a separate tab on your browser dedicated for coinmarketcap, coingecko and other price aggregators is not that hard so that you can monitor the price easily. This new feature for Bitcoin price can only save few seconds of time from users since changing tab just need one click to do it.

Besides, forum doesn’t have live update feature which means everything needs to be refresh and also no one here spend too much time browsing which means we always have a free time to have a break in the forum. Honestly, some of us here spend most our time on checking price rather than browse here.  Cheesy

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March 18, 2024, 03:08:23 PM
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Possibility of influx of new users
How is this feature going to cause an influx of new users, people don't join bitcointalk because they want to see what Bitcoin's price is, there are many places they can get that it from, people join here because they want to discuss about Bitcoin and other whatnots.
There would be some accurate and more trust in what price the forum is displayed to be authentic.
Bitcointalk is going to get the price info either from an exchange or from a website like Coinmarketcap that displays crypto prices, so there is no case of authenticity, when you can go directly to those websites and view the price.
Increased participation as users no longer need to go to other sites for something as little as price update which would in turn, push towards looking up what is new on the forum.
Increased participation in what? Forum activities? It only takes a few seconds to visit websites for BTC price, it definitely does not hamper forum participation.

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March 18, 2024, 05:57:54 PM
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Possibility of influx of new users
How is this feature going to cause an influx of new users, people don't join bitcointalk because they want to see what Bitcoin's price is, there are many places they can get that it from, people join here because they want to discuss about Bitcoin and other whatnots.
Obviously, it’s a discussion space about Bitcoin and other crypto related developments and Bitcoin price update is very much a part of that. It’s what the community is about right!
Having to suggest the possibility of new users joining the platform, it’s not uncommon for anyone out of curiosity to search about Bitcoin price on the web. Using Google search engine amongst others and these search engines work on the bases of what previous users have searched for, the updates on related materials and where. Should it be that, Bitcointalk puts out this price update on the web, it would be suggested by Google in searches by just anyone which could lead to the registration of new account from persons who takes interest after using the forum link as would be provided in the search.

Increased participation in what? Forum activities? It only takes a few seconds to visit websites for BTC price, it definitely does not hamper forum participation.
I mean this in the sense that, possibly you just wanted to drop by on the forum, maybe just to see the price of Bitcoin (in the event that the forum was providing this update) and then, after you’ve achieved your initial purpose of viewing the price update, you just might get moved to proceed to other parts of the forum to see what’s new over there.
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I mean this in the sense that, possibly you just wanted to drop by on the forum, maybe just to see the price of Bitcoin (in the event that the forum was providing this update) and then, after you’ve achieved your initial purpose of viewing the price update, you just might get moved to proceed to other parts of the forum to see what’s new over there.
If the admin really thought this advice was useful for the growth of the forum in terms of traffic, then it is very possible that the admin would have added it in the past. But what is the reality, it is not a priority because everyone can easily find out the price of bitcoin by searching it on Google. Of course this isn't a bad idea, but I don't think it's a priority.

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For this to even count for search engines, we would need threads talking specifically about the price, with "Bitcoin price" scattered all around. But even that would not be able to compete with the number of coin trackers and exchanges which pop up when someone asks about the price, along with Google's default price tracker.

Adding this would not directly help the forum and I don't think it would directly help the users. There are already a lot of ways to check the price and the forum would not want to encourage the over speculation on the Bitcoin price.

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Should it be that, Bitcointalk puts out this price update on the web, it would be suggested by Google in searches by just anyone which could lead to the registration of new account from persons who takes interest after using the forum link as would be provided in the search.
Even if there is a Bitcoin price tracker in the forum, that would not make bitcointalk pop up when people search for "Bitcoin price", even if it happens and there are a lot of discussions on it, it would be impossible to beat the many crypto data aggregators and exchanges that show up when people search for the price of Bitcoin. Having said that, i don't think this can cause any influx of new users into the forum, but if you think so, then no problem.
I mean this in the sense that, possibly you just wanted to drop by on the forum, maybe just to see the price of Bitcoin (in the event that the forum was providing this update) and then, after you’ve achieved your initial purpose of viewing the price update, you just might get moved to proceed to other parts of the forum to see what’s new over there.
Lol, like many users have said in this thread, it is not just worth it and there are no benefits for the forum; and overall the admin agrees with that since he has not implemented that and i don't think there is any plans to do so.

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March 18, 2024, 07:50:07 PM
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The forum must remain neutral in relation to other price disclosure platforms. Therefore, having such a table involved presenting data from a third party company.
Doing this only makes sense if the company pays for the forum. But, I doubt there is interest (on the part of the forum) to sell/rent this space.

Furthermore, each price reference website always gives different values (even if the variation is low). And each user has their own price references. That said, I don't think it makes sense for the forum to present this type of information.
I had a thought about that when creating this topic, I guess I highlighted the eventuality of this and possible traffic ot might generate to any third party website.

Should it be a paid advert, I don’t know if that is of any necessity to the forum or community but, this too could be worked out. With regards to neutrality I think obvious consideration of data from several sites of a defined range, considered to have gotten some prominence and relevance in the crypto world, averaging the price index for all to serve as STANDARD PRICE could be speaking a uni true while and be in some form of neutrality too.

Yes, some issues could be overcome. But there are others that continue to exist.

We have to deal with Javascript, which can create security holes. And it's something that the forum doesn't want, that's why the forum is the way it is all these years.
We still cannot forget that this forum existed, even before bitcoin had exchange value. So, I think leaving this financial aspect out of the forum (officially) is the best thing to do.

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March 18, 2024, 08:13:36 PM
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Price modification

Hi guys, I am relatively new here haven’t been around only months of this year but, in light of suggestions as to modifications that might instill some consciousness on users of this space, I want to make a suggestion that could prove useful in updates and not necessarily require users to look up other sites for something as vital and utmost necessity like the Bitcoin price.
It seems that these were my exact words as an innocent newbie. I made this request and was told that many others made such a request in the past. If you have used the search button, you would have understood that many people have actually made such suggestion. Not only you, I am still of the opinion that as the major cryptocurrency forum, there needa to be what you have suggested, atleast for the mother coin (BTC).

I have also read that the forum was hacked in the past, and as such theymos is reluctant to implement anything that will fetch data continuously outside the forum. Besides, there are many places to check price, let's keep using them.

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1 Bitcoin = 1 Bitcoin.
Everything else would be just a distractions, and long term bitcoin price is going up anyway.
We don't need to create new Bitcointalk-Market-Cap when there are already plenty of other websites and extensions that can track fiat value of Bitcoin.

As alternative you can try this minimal browser ticker extension:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5312406.0

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March 19, 2024, 10:15:00 AM
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Forum is a platform for exchange of ideas like fundamental, technical and even trading about Bitcoin and even some other things like altcoins, economics, politics.

This is not a Bitcoin Trading Platform so deploy a live price ticker is not necessary for the community and it is not the purpose of forum too.

I see negative impacts from the price sticker, if it ever exists in the forum, it will make people less uncertain about their investment in Bitcoin in days price falls a lot.

If you want to check price, you can check it whenever you have Internet connection and I am sure you will have Internet connection when you are able to access the forum.

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March 19, 2024, 02:50:04 PM
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There may be many other platforms that updates on bitcoin price and it will not make any difference that if this is also seen on the forum, afterall, the purpose for the creation of this platform is just for bitcoin discussing and the forum may not consider updating on the bitcoin price as part of it task or obligations when there are numbers of exchanges and other platforms that does that, OP may as well consider the thread of wall observer for that purpose as some make updates on the current bitcoin price there.

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