Should Merit-Sources send merit based on their feelings or quality of the post?

[SamReomo]

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Yes they should but only if they feel the post is good.

The feelings they have for a person should not be in the way one way or another.

BTW I feel the question is good and even though you struggle with English you efforted to make sense so I gave you 2 merits.

That's a great statement philipma1957 and yeah I believe that a merit source should always merit the posts that deserve to get merits and in fact most of the times the merit sources do give merits to the posts that they like, but I still doubt that if they dislike a member then they might not give merits the posts of that member. Most of the time when a user of the forum or in this case a merit source, doesn't like the posting style of a user will most probably put that user in his/her ignore list and when someone is in a merit source's ignore list then that particular merit source will never give merits to that user even if he/she makes a best post that can help so many people.

I believe that a merit source should never add someone in their ignore list if they really want to be helpful to everyone. That's what I think, I don't know others will agree with me or not, but if the merit sources give merits due to someone's contribution then they would never add anyone in their ignore list. Because sometimes the members with low quality posts can also contribute some helpful posts. Sometimes it may be hard for some members to make good posts because English isn't their native language but still they try their best to make posts in English and in that case such members can sometime make good posts as well.

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I believe that a merit source should never add someone in their ignore list if they really want to be helpful to everyone. That's what I think, I don't know others will agree with me or not, but if the merit sources give merits due to someone's contribution then they would never add anyone in their ignore list. Because sometimes the members with low quality posts can also contribute some helpful posts. Sometimes it may be hard for some members to make good posts because English isn't their native language but still they try their best to make posts in English and in that case such members can sometime make good posts as well.

Yes - this is what most spammers expect, but I'm sure there are many spammers already on the merit source ignore list. Merit sources on the one hand are ordinary users who carry out the voluntary task of distributing sMerit - meaning they have the right to take advantage of any features the forum offers them, including ignoring certain users. Ignored users aren't random, of course - they're just select users they think are worth ignoring.

Theymos has warned anyone in this quote:

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.

[aysg76]

Sometimes you don't agree with the posts but still you hand out merits because the content was good and have seen many sources giving this statement.But on a general note if you think post quality is good and contributed something useful to you or a community as a whole you give merits to that post.They all have different criterias for it handing out merits to each post and sometimes they agree sometimes they don't.

[Shamm]

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?
Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?

It's a different a user can give merit to whoever he wants, because it's his/hers own merit and they can do whatever they want with it. But a merit-source how should he act? Without feelings or with feelings?

I don't trying to blame anyone, or create any drama and I am not disappointed with my low merits, I am quite happy and proud that I already got ten merit and being a member rank, so I am in no rush what so ever to rank up, I actually love the farming and the journey, because when and if I reach Legendary nobody can say I didn't earn it the right way. I rather let it take years of honest farming then months of cheating.
But back to my question, what do you think aboiut merit-sources when they handle out merit? They  should give merit to all good posts right, even if a user they dislike made a very good post. Or is it okay to just skip to give that user merit even that he made a very good post?

Maybe this come as bit confusing, I am sorry my English is not 10/10. But I hope you will understand! Great weekend everyone. / BabyBandit.

Everyone has a feelings so without a doubt merits source have a feelings too and for sure theres a time they will use it to give their sMerits. Cause in this forum there are many attitude we've encounter which means some of it we will not like and once it will happen then our feelings dictate our doings. Anyways not all people follows there's feelings  so in this case merit source give there sMerits to those worthy user here in this forum .

[BabyBandit]

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?
Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?

It's a different a user can give merit to whoever he wants, because it's his/hers own merit and they can do whatever they want with it. But a merit-source how should he act? Without feelings or with feelings?

I don't trying to blame anyone, or create any drama and I am not disappointed with my low merits, I am quite happy and proud that I already got ten merit and being a member rank, so I am in no rush what so ever to rank up, I actually love the farming and the journey, because when and if I reach Legendary nobody can say I didn't earn it the right way. I rather let it take years of honest farming then months of cheating.
But back to my question, what do you think aboiut merit-sources when they handle out merit? They  should give merit to all good posts right, even if a user they dislike made a very good post. Or is it okay to just skip to give that user merit even that he made a very good post?

Maybe this come as bit confusing, I am sorry my English is not 10/10. But I hope you will understand! Great weekend everyone. / BabyBandit.

Yes they should but only if they feel the post is good.

The feelings they have for a person should not be in the way one way or another.

BTW I feel the question is good and even though you struggle with English you efforted to make sense so I gave you 2 merits.

Thanks a lot! and I agree with you. Merit should only be giving out to a good post and feelings should not be in the way for handle out merit to a good post.

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Ok dude.

Sometimes you don't agree with the posts but still you hand out merits because the content was good and have seen many sources giving this statement.But on a general note if you think post quality is good and contributed something useful to you or a community as a whole you give merits to that post.They all have different criterias for it handing out merits to each post and sometimes they agree sometimes they don't.

This is how it should be, on point.

[SmartGold01]

Emotion controls the heart and inner reasoning of a man especially women like us, sometimes when giving out merits I looks at how funny or creative and helpful it to me. But whenever I am out of merits I can give 1 or 2 to my levels because I can only spend the little that I have. But those who has large numbers of merits can give out larger amount to people maybe depending on how much they have in their custody but merits is a thing that is meant to be spent not to hold.

Sometimes I do surprise you will see someone who writes very well but doesn't receive merits just because such person has not gain ground yet or is not known to the forum that much. Apparently I can say our emotions controls our acts of giving out merits but that doesn't mean, although some people are usually cool with 1 only maybe to reach a wider numbers of people who needs it, some people can decide to be giving lower rank to encourage them to grow if they noticed such people post very well.

[Stalker22]

Merit-sources are supposed to look at the quality of a post, not who wrote it.  The whole point of merit is to reward good post that helps the community, even if it comes from someone you do not like.  but let us be real, we all have our preferences and can be hard to be totally fair and unbiased.
I mean there arent any hard rules here. Some merit-sources try harder than others to stay objective.  The important thing is using merit to recognize people who are making this place better, not just your buddies.  Easier said than done though.  We are only human.  

[nutildah]

I'm a little bit more careful who I give merits to these days as I feel like I've been burned by too many users trying to rank up alt accounts. Sure, you're allowed to have alt accounts but it feels a bit dishonest when people try to pretend that they are not themselves. I've even seen accounts that I know are alts talking to themselves, lol.

It probably goes without saying but users who have less-than-forthright intentions, write bad posts, or are just a-holes are going to be less likely to get merits than honest, constructive, pleasant users... Its just human nature, and its something that can't be changed.

[Rruchi man]

It's a different a user can give merit to whoever he wants, because it's his/hers own merit and they can do whatever they want with it. But a merit-source how should he act? Without feelings or with feelings?

To be selected as a merit source amongst other users can be likened to a leadership position that has been handed to you, and as a leader it is not expected you lead with sentiments and emotions. You lead the territory that you are leader of and try as much as you can to be fair to everyone under it. A good leader separates emotions and sentiments from leadership, same goes for a merit source. As a merit source of a board, it is your duty and something expected of you to be fair in your distribution of merits to quality topics and contributions in that board regardless of your personal opinion of the person who has made the post/contribution. Your ability to separate emotions and sentiments from your distribution of merits makes you a good merit source that deserves to continue.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

It probably goes without saying but users who have less-than-forthright intentions, write bad posts, or are just a-holes are going to be less likely to get merits than honest, constructive, pleasant users... Its just human nature, and its something that can't be changed.

I think it's obvious because when you have one account, you are the one and only to have all your focus for that one account.

Once you start having fun then it's an unstoppable thing not to interact with responses left for you and being in different discussions. On the other hand, people also find their hobby on the forum and master it to stand out from others. I think to receive merit one needs to create good posts, and make themselves stand out of the crowd. It helps to receive more merits when an account is known to others.

[Eternad]

this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?
Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?

I believe merit source that dislike the user usually ignores it therefore he will not able to see its post. Merit is human with feelings and it’s not a paid position which he can do whatever he wants on what his guidelines to send merit.

On most cases, I believe merit sources doesn’t read the post that they don’t like unless it was posted in reply to their thread or post. But I saw many times that merit sources still sending merits on post of user that they have arguments. It’s case to case basis but we can’t enforce this to every merit source since it’s a volunteer work without payment. As long as merit is being distribute properly on good quality post then their job is fulfilled regardless of their avoiding post on user that dislike since there’s a lot of merit source available out there to cover for it.

[UmerIdrees]

Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?

A merit source should not give merits based on the people they like or don't like, they should hand out merits to the posts they like or they think are worth giving merits.

While feelings are always attached to us humans, but sometimes we need to perform our work by keeping our feelings aside.

You know humans, if they do not like someone, they will not do anything in favour of the person they dislike. And can theymos know, he can not know.

Again, here comes the self satisfaction of oneself. Even if theymos would not know, but your inner self will feel bad that you saw a post worth merited but you did not give merit to it only because you do not like that person.

[BabyBandit]

I'm a little bit more careful who I give merits to these days as I feel like I've been burned by too many users trying to rank up alt accounts. Sure, you're allowed to have alt accounts but it feels a bit dishonest when people try to pretend that they are not themselves. I've even seen accounts that I know are alts talking to themselves, lol.

It probably goes without saying but users who have less-than-forthright intentions, write bad posts, or are just a-holes are going to be less likely to get merits than honest, constructive, pleasant users... Its just human nature, and its something that can't be changed.

I understand, and I think you not doing anything wrong, opposite! Keep it up.  

Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?

A merit source should not give merits based on the people they like or don't like, they should hand out merits to the posts they like or they think are worth giving merits.

While feelings are always attached to us humans, but sometimes we need to perform our work by keeping our feelings aside.

Yeah I agree 100% with this, spot on.

[Peanutswar]

Im not a merit source, but giving a merit is just giving a token of appreciation to the person with their contents because their answer really contributes to the community or just they want to give them giving merits can be subjective, we are still human if we know this person giving all of their best to share and contribute they will deserved merit. Also giving merit to them makes them more courage to get more and rank up like other members.

[goxcraft]

There are no rules about how a sMerit should be given. Everyone have a different perspective when it comes to sending sMerits. For some, they can give out sMerits out of feelings. For some, they give sMerit purely based on contribution. If I liked you, I would naturally try to give you sMerits whenever I see your posts, if I could. Don't you agree with that? Mutual bonds with each other affect a lot how one gives out sMerits. If one hates you, he won't give you sMerits even if the post deserves it.

Let me tell you a story. A few days ago, I found a roadmap of a bitcointalk user. He is now a legendary member of this community. Also, he is well known in this forum. He should be; he contributed a lot to this community. In his story, he said "On my 1000th post, a legendary member gave me a thousand merits". Isn't it amazing? How you you define that? Was it out of feelings or quality?! 1000 sMerit on 1000th post. Just imagine that.

[Renampun]

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?
Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?

It's a different a user can give merit to whoever he wants, because it's his/hers own merit and they can do whatever they want with it. But a merit-source how should he act? Without feelings or with feelings?

I don't trying to blame anyone, or create any drama and I am not disappointed with my low merits, I am quite happy and proud that I already got ten merit and being a member rank, so I am in no rush what so ever to rank up, I actually love the farming and the journey, because when and if I reach Legendary nobody can say I didn't earn it the right way. I rather let it take years of honest farming then months of cheating.
But back to my question, what do you think aboiut merit-sources when they handle out merit? They  should give merit to all good posts right, even if a user they dislike made a very good post. Or is it okay to just skip to give that user merit even that he made a very good post?

Maybe this come as bit confusing, I am sorry my English is not 10/10. But I hope you will understand! Great weekend everyone. / BabyBandit.

As far as I can see on your account, you have only given 5 merits to 5 different accounts and I'm sure the posts for members you give 'merit' to are posts that you like, well merit sources also think so, when they like your posts then they won't hesitate to give merit to your post, they give it as support for your efforts in providing a good post (even though the post is made with few words, the point is that the post they give merit to is the one they like).

[BobLawblaw]

This hurts my feelings.

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?
Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?

It's a different a user can give merit to whoever he wants, because it's his/hers own merit and they can do whatever they want with it. But a merit-source how should he act? Without feelings or with feelings?

I don't trying to blame anyone, or create any drama and I am not disappointed with my low merits, I am quite happy and proud that I already got ten merit and being a member rank, so I am in no rush what so ever to rank up, I actually love the farming and the journey, because when and if I reach Legendary nobody can say I didn't earn it the right way. I rather let it take years of honest farming then months of cheating.
But back to my question, what do you think aboiut merit-sources when they handle out merit? They  should give merit to all good posts right, even if a user they dislike made a very good post. Or is it okay to just skip to give that user merit even that he made a very good post?

Maybe this come as bit confusing, I am sorry my English is not 10/10. But I hope you will understand! Great weekend everyone. / BabyBandit.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

You know humans, if they do not like someone, they will not do anything in favour of the person they dislike. And can theymos know, he can not know. But we have 109 merit source with approximately 33940 smerits given by theymos almost every 30 days. If a merit source do not like you, another merit source will like you unless you are not posting something useful.

That's about an accurate answer to OP's question as you can get, and I would probably have written something similar if I weren't a merit source myself.  Lol.

I can only think of a small handful of members that I could say I genuinely don't care for, but they're at Legendary rank anyway, so even if they made a post that was helpful, funny, or just that I liked I probably would do what I try to do, which is to save the sMerits for lower-ranked members.  I often fail at that, but whatever.  I've got sMerits up the wazoo, so giving 2-3 to a Legendary member isn't going to throw the forum off balance.

However, I do check members' trust pages when they request a post history review and if there's any kind of feedback related to posting quality (usually a neutral), I do take that into account.  But that doesn't mean I'm refusing to merit them because of hard feelings.

This hurts my feelings.

I don't know why your feelings are hurt, but damn....I haven't seen you around in a long time.

[skarais]

I can only think of a small handful of members that I could say I genuinely don't care for, but they're at Legendary rank anyway, so even if they made a post that was helpful, funny, or just that I liked I probably would do what I try to do, which is to save the sMerits for lower-ranked members.  I often fail at that, but whatever.

The Sceptical Chymist, I often get that impression from non-merit source users where they tend to prefer helping fellow low-ranked accounts rather than sending merit to quality posts made by Legendary. I've obviously never had an issue with that, but the merit system is actually not only helpful to anyone who needs a ranking, but the merit system is supposed to help anyone who makes useful posts regardless of rank.

Do you know what the consequences are? Some of these users no longer submit merit to Legendary because they believe Legendary do not need merit to rank up. But I'm sure if this mindset continues to develop among low-ranked users, then many Legendary will fall out of the merit distribution. I know this isn't a problem yet but I got that kind of impression among our local users but of course not from all users.

I've got sMerits up the wazoo, so giving 2-3 to a Legendary member isn't going to throw the forum off balance.

Of course, I think that's fine and will never interfere with the merit system itself.

In my case, there were only a few Legendary who sent me merits in the last 120 days and they are all merit sources. Here's the list:

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Husna QA
DdmrDdmr
ETFbitcoin
The Sceptical Chymist
dbshck
EFS
JayJuanGee

[jokers10]

I often get that impression from non-merit source users where they tend to prefer helping fellow low-ranked accounts rather than sending merit to quality posts made by Legendary.

It is a twofold situation, as I see it. On the one hand that's right, many are much more eager spend their merits on newbies and low ranks because it gives an opportunity to grow up in ranks. But on the other hand Legendaries are usually reputable enough already and when the one gives a merit to a legendary he doesn't reflect about if there is an AI post, plagiarism, alt account merit farming, etc. So merit to a Legendary is given very easily.

So it's easier to get merits for a newbie for one reasons and for a legendary for the other reasons. And it is hard the same way: for newbie for one and for legendary for another.