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October 07, 2023, 10:53:41 AM |
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Recently, I've seen a gambler reply to the chat that he doesn't want to mess with his seed because it's only for the Plinko game. Here's the story.
A RH (roll hunt) was about to happen that was funded by a big winner. The hunt requirement is hitting x3000 in Limbo and the payment on whoever hits it first is $2. There's no required minimum bet because Original games can be played with 0 (zero) bet so anyone can join and if they hit it, share the winning result link and it will be verified. He said, "I will not participate because I don't want to mess with my Plinko seed."
I was kind of curious about it so I want to ask the gamblers here. Do you use the same method? One seed, one game? Is this just some kind of a superstitious belief or is it really working?
Note: I am the type who jumps from one casino game to another using only one seed if I feel unlucky, that's why it somehow made me curious.
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October 07, 2023, 12:04:07 PM |
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I was kind of curious about it so I want to ask the gamblers here. Do you use the same method? One seed, one game? Is this just some kind of a superstitious belief or is it really working?
You probably mean client seed that's used in provable fair system. There are casinos that force you to change your seeds once in a while, for example Bitsler does that. I have tried to frequently gamble with one seed for about a week and then I tried changing seeds 3-4 times a day for about a week and what I can tell you is that I still lost and didn't notice any improvement in outcome from bet. By the way, games are purely based on luck and it doesn't matter whether you change your seeds or not, it doesn't increase your winning chance.
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October 07, 2023, 12:24:43 PM |
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I don't care much about the client seed,server seed,hash and all these things that make a casino claim they use a provable fair system,simply because in the casino where I play I trust them with my money and that is enough for me to trust them of what they say.
I of course have not participated in roll hunts except I use some sort of alike strategy to increase my VIP level but even that it is quite some time that I don't use it,I simply play my favorite games trusting the casino which I choose to play with and don't care much about superstitions or other things that honestly have got nothing to do with gambling,in gambling only LUCK is needed,if you have it your life can change for the better,if you don't and are not careful your life can change for the worse.
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October 07, 2023, 12:33:23 PM |
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Recently, I've seen a gambler reply to the chat that he doesn't want to mess with his seed because it's only for the Plinko game. Here's the story.
A RH (roll hunt) was about to happen that was funded by a big winner. The hunt requirement is hitting x3000 in Limbo and the payment on whoever hits it first is $2. There's no required minimum bet because Original games can be played with 0 (zero) bet so anyone can join and if they hit it, share the winning result link and it will be verified. He said, "I will not participate because I don't want to mess with my Plinko seed."
I was kind of curious about it so I want to ask the gamblers here. Do you use the same method? One seed, one game? Is this just some kind of a superstitious belief or is it really working?
Note: I am the type who jumps from one casino game to another using only one seed if I feel unlucky, that's why it somehow made me curious.
It's probably more of a superstitious belief mate, although I haven't look at my seed to be honest or even used only one seed across different platform. For me, still based on our particular luck (everyone is different), maybe what works for him, might not work for the rest of us. Or even if it works for him, it might not be working all the time. Just like the superstitious belief of wearing red for lucky charm when you play on a traditional based casinos. You will observed the some of them are wearing red, however, maybe all of them are losing or some of them are winning, or almost all of them are winning. So it's very different for everyone.
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October 07, 2023, 12:53:29 PM |
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I'd rather be cautious of casinos that cannot provide a means to verify their clients' bets themselves, rather than worrying and wondering whether changing the seed for each individual game at the casino could have any substantial impact on the outcome. Probably, that gambler you have seen believe to some kind " Illusion of Control" [1] fallacy where they can influence or control the outcome of the game, in his case not changing the seed, even when it's based on luck and randomization of numbers. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_control
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October 07, 2023, 01:11:06 PM |
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Recently, I've seen a gambler reply to the chat that he doesn't want to mess with his seed because it's only for the Plinko game. Here's the story.
A RH (roll hunt) was about to happen that was funded by a big winner. The hunt requirement is hitting x3000 in Limbo and the payment on whoever hits it first is $2. There's no required minimum bet because Original games can be played with 0 (zero) bet so anyone can join and if they hit it, share the winning result link and it will be verified. He said, "I will not participate because I don't want to mess with my Plinko seed."
I was kind of curious about it so I want to ask the gamblers here. Do you use the same method? One seed, one game? Is this just some kind of a superstitious belief or is it really working?
Note: I am the type who jumps from one casino game to another using only one seed if I feel unlucky, that's why it somehow made me curious.
I'd believe that this is just a coincidence since there are times that we think our strategy or methods use is working but at the end we just been hit by luck to win on such session that's why I don't really believe on that existence since for sure on next time you bet you might not get the same result. Casino would not provably allow that one lucky seed and used always used by people since this could be a reason on why they lose casino lost a lot of money. Casino offers provably fair system so for sure this will implement to any game that's why anyone can't take advantage on certain situation and use it to have huge chance to win. Also I don't really care much about such thing since I rarely play Plinko and will just play that if I'm so bored.
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October 07, 2023, 02:06:12 PM |
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I think he believes that using the same seed for a particular game will somehow increase his chances of winning or that changing the seed will negatively affect his results. This belief is generally superstitious. Casino provably fair games are designed to provide random and independent outcomes, so changing the seed should not influence the fairness of the game or the likelihood of winning. Therefore, it is merely a personal belief that may bring good luck, and perhaps it can help him stay focused.
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October 07, 2023, 02:44:40 PM |
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Probably it's a superstitious and that gambler believes it probably it gave more wins compare to its losses. Personally, I don't mind about the seed its too technical for me and i just have to gamble on a good and reputable site then I can have that peace of mind, or else I'll be in trouble. There's a lot of gamblers are into belief of something and we cannot stop them from believing on such superstitious, as long as they gamble responsively then it can be good.
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October 07, 2023, 04:00:45 PM |
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Every player has their own Client Seed, but when you play games like Crash... all players share one Seed for that game. I know people think that they have to hit a max hit within a certain amount of bets, but I think they are wrong. (The client Seed are combined with the Server Seed and the RNG to give you a random big win) The superstition part of the experience adds to the fun of playing it.... from people rubbing the screen on slot machines or people believing that they have to hit within a certain amount of bets..
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October 07, 2023, 04:57:25 PM |
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I believe it is pure superstition, because if the casino is legit and the provably fairness is done through a proper process, then the seed is supposed to be completely random and there should be no feasible way for a gambler to know their seed is more favourable than other's.
Perhaps, that gambler has seen some positive results with his seed (out of pure luck) and does not want to seem with his good streak by messing with his seed.
Just superstition...
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October 07, 2023, 05:14:48 PM |
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Some people even go as far as creating accounts on multiple sites and playing until they hit a losing streak, then switch casinos and play somewhere else. Another method is to play with very low bets until you hit a losing streak and at that losing streak start increasing your bet because a few lost games increase the chances of winning the next one. I'd say all those methods that operate on seeds, switching casinos, streaks are superstitious, but you should do whatever works for you. If you often win when doing it then do it!
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October 07, 2023, 10:18:10 PM |
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I don't care much about the client seed,server seed,hash and all these things that make a casino claim they use a provable fair system,simply because in the casino where I play I trust them with my money and that is enough for me to trust them of what they say.
When we talk about games seed or hash what we need them for is not for the safety of our funds on the casino, but it about the ability to used the game seed to verify the probably fairness in the games results, this in useful if ther be any dispute in outcome of game and the gambler pick up a case he can be given the game hash that way he can verify the games process and how the result was arrived at. This feature gives gamblers another level of confidence and trusts in the casino's probable fairs system and how it is applied, although I don't know how high or operational the house edge is in this situation but then since it will be blockchain verifiable, the possibility of getting tempered with is limited.
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October 07, 2023, 10:52:08 PM |
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This is just a superstition especially with these kinds of games, I've chatted with multiple players before who do this on dice games and was also encourage to try it. I just change my seed everytime I feel or think that I'm not lucky with that until I feel that I have the right one or lucky one. I did this and I was on a winning streak multiple times but this seed also had given me my highest loss on a dice game ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 07, 2023, 11:48:14 PM |
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I was kind of curious about it so I want to ask the gamblers here. Do you use the same method? One seed, one game? Is this just some kind of a superstitious belief or is it really working?
Technically, either of those doesn't have to do with the winning chance. But I do understand their feeling as we really have that "own belief" thinking that's the best strategy. I do have my own too. Even without a technical explanation, I would really say it's effective at some point sticking with my own belief. Since that was the case, I just followed it until I realized it was not working anymore. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There are really gamblers having that kind of stuffs on their head.
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October 07, 2023, 11:56:06 PM |
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Calling it as a superstitious might be too much. Let's just understand these people follow their own beliefs.
If that's an effective tool to them, then good for them. Their own belief doesn't work to anyone. Maybe just found our own belief that we can used.
It's hard to just trust our luck nowadays that's why it would be better if we have our own stand. Who knows we can create our own one too where we can called it a luck strategy.
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October 08, 2023, 12:38:56 AM |
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Most likely superstitious imo. There's afaik no way to prove whether it really works, most people just do it because of the "feel" for it or something similar. Otherwise, the casino would be damned since just "resetting" the seed to increase the chance means that the game itself has factors involved that are manipulable by the game. Who knows, it might not just stop at seeds at that point and may have other factors that players can artificially manipulate. Kinda funny how a seed that's supposed to be proof of provabaly fair is being used to increase their chances when the action of "increasing their chances" goes against provably fair itself.
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October 08, 2023, 12:55:16 AM |
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Recently, I've seen a gambler reply to the chat that he doesn't want to mess with his seed because it's only for the Plinko game. Here's the story.
A RH (roll hunt) was about to happen that was funded by a big winner. The hunt requirement is hitting x3000 in Limbo and the payment on whoever hits it first is $2. There's no required minimum bet because Original games can be played with 0 (zero) bet so anyone can join and if they hit it, share the winning result link and it will be verified. He said, "I will not participate because I don't want to mess with my Plinko seed."
I was kind of curious about it so I want to ask the gamblers here. Do you use the same method? One seed, one game? Is this just some kind of a superstitious belief or is it really working?
Note: I am the type who jumps from one casino game to another using only one seed if I feel unlucky, that's why it somehow made me curious.
This is just a superstition and it happens in almost all gambling games, it just takes a different form, in the game of craps if you are having a nice winning streak and suddenly the dice went out of the table, most crap players will ask for the same dice to be rolled again instead of using a new one. Thinking that if you were to change the dice then your good luck will run out, but at the end the dice that you are using should not matter at all as neither dice has any bias, but if you were to use a new dice you can be sure all the table will be mad at you because you changed it.
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danherbias07 (OP)
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October 08, 2023, 01:43:14 AM |
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Every player has their own Client Seed, but when you play games like Crash... all players share one Seed for that game. I know people think that they have to hit a max hit within a certain amount of bets, but I think they are wrong. (The client Seed are combined with the Server Seed and the RNG to give you a random big win)
Oh, I like that Crash game because of that reality, all players will share the same seed and it will depend on the player if he is greedy or not to win the game. I think I won a lot of times in that game because I am always afraid it will crash so I cash out whenever I feel like the profits are enough. The superstition part of the experience adds to the fun of playing it.... from people rubbing the screen on slot machines or people believing that they have to hit within a certain amount of bets.. It's true that beliefs really add some flavor to the game and because of that man, it rattled my own point of view on how those client seeds work. I had seeds that give out multiple wins as early as before 1000x of the bet amount. Then, I also had seeds that wouldn't give any multi-win after 1000x of the bet amount. Regarding Plinko, I also have a seed that won't hit the highest win amount in high-risk 14 lines but does give the second-highest a lot of times. Now my new seed gave me a lot of the highest win amounts for less than X5000 bets. It's difficult to explain things like this happening and maybe that is why gamblers will have their own beliefs when we talk about seeds. I'd rather be cautious of casinos that cannot provide a means to verify their clients' bets themselves, rather than worrying and wondering whether changing the seed for each individual game at the casino could have any substantial impact on the outcome. Probably, that gambler you have seen believe to some kind " Illusion of Control" [1] fallacy where they can influence or control the outcome of the game, in his case not changing the seed, even when it's based on luck and randomization of numbers. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_controlThank you for sharing that. I didn't know there's such a thing and it actually points out to gambling specifically. I will be sure to remember it.
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October 08, 2023, 12:43:52 PM |
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I'd call that superstitious for sure because it implies that the seed somehow determines if you're going to be a lucky or unlucky players or that the seed can be jinxed.
At least that's how I see it. It also feels like the gambler suspects the system is rigged not to allow too many people to win, so there's some kind of seed monitoring system that doesn't allow players to get too lucky?
I don't believe there's a correlation between your seed ad luck. If there is luck, it is in you not in the seed.
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October 09, 2023, 11:37:39 AM |
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I'd call that superstitious for sure because it implies that the seed somehow determines if you're going to be a lucky or unlucky players or that the seed can be jinxed.
At least that's how I see it. It also feels like the gambler suspects the system is rigged not to allow too many people to win, so there's some kind of seed monitoring system that doesn't allow players to get too lucky?
I don't believe there's a correlation between your seed ad luck. If there is luck, it is in you not in the seed.
I don't believe in luck that much. I do believe there's a part in the seed though that will give you a multi-win but we don't know when it will happen. It could be in the 10,000th bet or it could be in the 9th bet. Last month I had a seed with a record of 400k bets and I can say I made some profits on it because it gives a lot of multi-wins in just a short span of bets. Like in every 2000 bets, there will be a surprising multi. That's also where I got the x1500 multi-win in Tome of Life then x500 and x900 which made me happy so I withdrew those funds. But, when I used that same seed in other games like Keno and Scarab Spin, I could not even see those numbers of multi-wins anymore. I guess that incident in my betting experience is also a part of what made me curious about the guy who said that in my opening posts. But we don't have the resources to confirm it so it's just a superstitious belief or a theory.
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