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November 20, 2023, 11:56:30 AM
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Don't you think it's a benefit that whenever you are back reviewing your spreadsheet with your win or loss data, you will think not twice but more than that before you gamble? Because in my opinion, it's a kind of reminder, not like guilt-tripping or anything, but the reality check on your spending. The real benefit of keeping a record is that you can analyze not only your lose and win record but also your actual financial spending on gambling, and you can verify it with your actual financial savings. And I don't think every gambler should have to keep their record, because if you're not a gambling addict, then you will definitely think before spending.

Yeah, it's clearly a benefit.

But it will most of the time mean that the person will see that they are paying way more than what they feel comfortable, and maybe stop gambling, which is an activity they enjoy.

So, many people just don't want to see that reality because they want to gamble again.

Same with alcohol, if you enjoy drinking it, you won't bother paying high prices for it, whereas paying for other things at the same price would be a big no for the same person.

Human behavior is so interesting!
For me, It's not that important if you track all your records in gambling or not. I'm aware that it will be helpful for some gamblers because they can monitor their total spending amounts most specially if they know their limits and needs to control their money to avoid losing much  but for other gamblers who used to gamble and majority of the time they played is all about losing, It will be a bit frustrating because it reminds them of things that should be forgotten and never looked back on.

That's one of the bad side of monitoring your records, as you will keep remembering your losses and the amount that you will try to recover,
most of the time, a gambler who knew the amount that he had already lost, got that mindset to try and recover.

Factors that will possibly bring you to keep trying, though the good catch is if you know your limits and you can control your emotions, since you
can stop and you can enjoy it if ever that you win some, having those records will let you keep on track and update regarding your finances.
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November 20, 2023, 02:00:34 PM
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For me, It's not that important if you track all your records in gambling or not. I'm aware that it will be helpful for some gamblers because they can monitor their total spending amounts most specially if they know their limits and needs to control their money to avoid losing much  but for other gamblers who used to gamble and majority of the time they played is all about losing, It will be a bit frustrating because it reminds them of things that should be forgotten and never looked back on.
Of course, this will make them frustrated with the losses they have experienced, especially if the losses were very large. But they only feel this frustration for a short time because when they return to gambling again, they will not feel frustrated but will try to recover their losses. Having financial records about their gambling can actually help them to see how much money they are using for gambling so they can start reducing their gambling activities. But what happens is that there are still many gamblers who don't pay attention to this and instead gamble more often because they have the hope of recovering their losses. This is where they really need to realize that by recording their gambling activities and seeing how many deposits and withdrawals they make, they can conclude that gambling is not suitable for them. They don't need to gamble too often.

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November 20, 2023, 04:10:29 PM
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Of course, this will make them frustrated with the losses they have experienced, especially if the losses were very large. But they only feel this frustration for a short time because when they return to gambling again, they will not feel frustrated but will try to recover their losses. Having financial records about their gambling can actually help them to see how much money they are using for gambling so they can start reducing their gambling activities. But what happens is that there are still many gamblers who don't pay attention to this and instead gamble more often because they have the hope of recovering their losses. This is where they really need to realize that by recording their gambling activities and seeing how many deposits and withdrawals they make, they can conclude that gambling is not suitable for them. They don't need to gamble too often.

Actually it's not like that,but if you keep the gambling records,it help you to understand the total loss or gain at the end of the day in the gambling sites.If you had made the continuous loss or gain in the gambling sites,So you may keep the calculation in the memory of your brain itself,the gambling will give the random loss and gain.So the gambler should keep their win and loss in the separate spreadsheet.It helps you to understand the current loss or profit y yourself in the gambling sites.Even you can target the loss of the gambling sites in the future game,but targeting loss was never recommended in gambling.If you had some good dollars for the back up,you can target the loss in the gambling sites.So the loss was recovered in the upcoming games in the gambling sites.
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November 20, 2023, 04:20:16 PM
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For me, It's not that important if you track all your records in gambling or not. I'm aware that it will be helpful for some gamblers because they can monitor their total spending amounts most specially if they know their limits and needs to control their money to avoid losing much  but for other gamblers who used to gamble and majority of the time they played is all about losing, It will be a bit frustrating because it reminds them of things that should be forgotten and never looked back on.
Of course, this will make them frustrated with the losses they have experienced, especially if the losses were very large. But they only feel this frustration for a short time because when they return to gambling again, they will not feel frustrated but will try to recover their losses. Having financial records about their gambling can actually help them to see how much money they are using for gambling so they can start reducing their gambling activities. But what happens is that there are still many gamblers who don't pay attention to this and instead gamble more often because they have the hope of recovering their losses. This is where they really need to realize that by recording their gambling activities and seeing how many deposits and withdrawals they make, they can conclude that gambling is not suitable for them. They don't need to gamble too often.

If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
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November 20, 2023, 06:36:15 PM
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If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
And that is one of the massive advantages of record keeping, if you look at the amount of money you have spent gambling over the years and you cringe about it and you think you have lost a lot of money, then that is a clear sign that you should slow down for a bit or even stop gambling for some time, as in my particular case I do know that number, or at least my best estimation of that number, and I do not have any problem with the money I have lost over the years.

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November 20, 2023, 10:02:20 PM
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If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
And that is one of the massive advantages of record keeping, if you look at the amount of money you have spent gambling over the years and you cringe about it and you think you have lost a lot of money, then that is a clear sign that you should slow down for a bit or even stop gambling for some time, as in my particular case I do know that number, or at least my best estimation of that number, and I do not have any problem with the money I have lost over the years.

Not keeping the track record of one's gambling activities does not make a bad gambler, we have a particular reason for doing or not doing that, what are we to talk about the gambling addicts and other abusers, are they not a to be considered the bad ones here than when you choose not to have the record of what can make you change your decision on gambling after realizing what you're spending there is too much, some don't even have a savings yet they always contributed to gambling each day, what an irony, track record does not make a good gambler.

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November 20, 2023, 10:55:48 PM
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That's one of the bad side of monitoring your records, as you will keep remembering your losses and the amount that you will try to recover,
most of the time, a gambler who knew the amount that he had already lost, got that mindset to try and recover.

Factors that will possibly bring you to keep trying, though the good catch is if you know your limits and you can control your emotions, since you
can stop and you can enjoy it if ever that you win some, having those records will let you keep on track and update regarding your finances.

If you really want to make money from gambling you can't escape the fact that you need to have detailed records of the amounts you have lost and won.

Otherwise the gambler will probably just simply "forget" about some big losses and only care about the big wins that happen once in a while.

In that case, the gambler will feel good, but in reality they have paid way more than what they have earned.

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November 21, 2023, 02:57:26 AM
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If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
And that is one of the massive advantages of record keeping, if you look at the amount of money you have spent gambling over the years and you cringe about it and you think you have lost a lot of money, then that is a clear sign that you should slow down for a bit or even stop gambling for some time, as in my particular case I do know that number, or at least my best estimation of that number, and I do not have any problem with the money I have lost over the years.
It is true that recording betting results in the last few months can provide benefits to better regulate the gambling activities they carry out and can enable them to have limits or control so as not to experience bigger losses like those in the records.
But another impact is the emergence of feeling of disappointment with what one has done because one has spent very large amount of money and even the winnings as return do not reach half of the amount that was used during that time.
All actions always have good and bad and it depends on us how we think and respond to each action.
But so far I don't think many gamblers have recorded their gambling history because it takes time and is little more complicated by taking into account every bet that has been made over several months or several years.

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November 21, 2023, 03:35:20 AM
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That's one of the bad side of monitoring your records, as you will keep remembering your losses and the amount that you will try to recover,
most of the time, a gambler who knew the amount that he had already lost, got that mindset to try and recover.
I know that I already spent a decent amount in my gambling activity from then until now and the idea of keeping records of my losses can't help me to move on. So what's the point? Some gamblers might think that they need to keep playing to recover those losses (if they record it) and it doesn't feel good to have such feeling of guilt or eager to chase it back. Therefore I better record my remarkable winnings rather than the losses because good memories are worth remembering.

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November 21, 2023, 04:54:21 AM
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Not keeping the track record of one's gambling activities does not make a bad gambler, we have a particular reason for doing or not doing that, what are we to talk about the gambling addicts and other abusers, are they not a to be considered the bad ones here than when you choose not to have the record of what can make you change your decision on gambling after realizing what you're spending there is too much, some don't even have a savings yet they always contributed to gambling each day, what an irony, track record does not make a good gambler.
Memories flies everywhere, I've personally decided not to keep records for anything related to gambling. Everyone knows the reason why they keep records of every single details about the outcomes in the system, while some have reasons why they don't keep records, we're all different human beings and we have tasks to fulfilled this season, so we keep trying to ensure to carry out our very best, inother not to make wrong steps that will make us triggered losses. Keeping records of losses and winnings will only bring back old memories and awful events, because there's existence of both bad and good results.

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November 21, 2023, 05:26:20 AM
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That's one of the bad side of monitoring your records, as you will keep remembering your losses and the amount that you will try to recover,
most of the time, a gambler who knew the amount that he had already lost, got that mindset to try and recover.

Or it could be the other way around? Looking at the record of your total loses might make you realize that maybe gambling is not the way how you want it to be to become rich. One might going to be regretful that if he kept this amount he could've invested it somewhere with less risks, it could've earned profit already.
On contrary, people who pursue his loses and eager to make an attempt in retrieving them by continuosly gambling, may unlikely to succeed but will worsen the accumulated loses instead.

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November 21, 2023, 04:06:29 PM
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If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
And that is one of the massive advantages of record keeping, if you look at the amount of money you have spent gambling over the years and you cringe about it and you think you have lost a lot of money, then that is a clear sign that you should slow down for a bit or even stop gambling for some time, as in my particular case I do know that number, or at least my best estimation of that number, and I do not have any problem with the money I have lost over the years.
Not keeping the track record of one's gambling activities does not make a bad gambler, we have a particular reason for doing or not doing that, what are we to talk about the gambling addicts and other abusers, are they not a to be considered the bad ones here than when you choose not to have the record of what can make you change your decision on gambling after realizing what you're spending there is too much, some don't even have a savings yet they always contributed to gambling each day, what an irony, track record does not make a good gambler.
Whether you keep track of your gambling activities or not, it will not decide if you are a good or bad gambler. Each of us has our reasons for deciding whether to keep track of our gambling activities or not. If you continue to gamble despite significant losses and do not modify your behavior, knowing your total loss records is irrelevant. A good gambler, for me, has extra money for gambling only and strictly stays within the allocated budget. Even if you lose on a weekly or daily basis, it will not have a significant impact on your life, relationships, finances, or family.
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November 21, 2023, 09:46:31 PM
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Actually it's not like that,but if you keep the gambling records,it help you to understand the total loss or gain at the end of the day in the gambling sites.If you had made the continuous loss or gain in the gambling sites,So you may keep the calculation in the memory of your brain itself,the gambling will give the random loss and gain.So the gambler should keep their win and loss in the separate spreadsheet.It helps you to understand the current loss or profit y yourself in the gambling sites.Even you can target the loss of the gambling sites in the future game,but targeting loss was never recommended in gambling.If you had some good dollars for the back up,you can target the loss in the gambling sites.So the loss was recovered in the upcoming games in the gambling sites.
If someone has experienced a lot of losses and writes it down in his gambling notes, it will indirectly be recorded in his brain's memory so that his subconscious will want him to try to recover his losses. He wouldn't realize that desire even if he actually continued gambling after his losing streak. But if he could control himself, he would not try to recover his losses because he already knew that it would only increase the number of losses even greater. He will be able to accept the losses he has recorded, and he will only try to reduce the number of losses so that in the next month, he can see a large reduction in the number of losses. He will also not target to reach the winning amount because he knows that getting winnings from gambling is difficult to achieve.

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If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
If they can really control themselves while gambling, they don't need a gambling record because they can control the amount of their losses. And it is true that we are the ones who should regulate the amount of money we use for gambling and not follow our desires of wanting to win. Moreover, we already have an experience where if we chase a win, we may experience even greater loss. So it's better for them to just accept whatever the result is and they can go back to gambling again another day.

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November 21, 2023, 09:55:30 PM
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I know that I already spent a decent amount in my gambling activity from then until now and the idea of keeping records of my losses can't help me to move on. So what's the point? Some gamblers might think that they need to keep playing to recover those losses (if they record it) and it doesn't feel good to have such feeling of guilt or eager to chase it back. Therefore I better record my remarkable winnings rather than the losses because good memories are worth remembering.
That guilt is for real.

When you see the entire amount of how much you've spent in gambling makes you wanna go for more and recover them.

And if it's not working for you and you just feel all of those losses is giving you a heartbreak, much better to just release it and don't keep records.

But if someone has a good reason for keeping it or it satisfies them, that's a good reason for them to keep the records.

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November 21, 2023, 10:21:59 PM
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That's one of the bad side of monitoring your records, as you will keep remembering your losses and the amount that you will try to recover,
most of the time, a gambler who knew the amount that he had already lost, got that mindset to try and recover.

Or it could be the other way around? Looking at the record of your total loses might make you realize that maybe gambling is not the way how you want it to be to become rich. One might going to be regretful that if he kept this amount he could've invested it somewhere with less risks, it could've earned profit already.
On contrary, people who pursue his loses and eager to make an attempt in retrieving them by continuosly gambling, may unlikely to succeed but will worsen the accumulated loses instead.
Regrets do always come at the end on which you would really be only be able to realize when its too late. When you do gamble then you should really be only spending on the amount
on which you can only afford to lose and it would really be just that fine that you wont really be making or putting up some records since those amounts are really that bound for
doing gambling because on the time that you do see that you are spending up tons of money on doing gambling even on a gradual manner then it would really be resulting
into those kind of thoughts that what if you have invested those amounts? Its true that it would really be creating that kind of what ifs and regrets in the end of the line.

Keeping record is simply that wont really be that ideal for me because im a person whose really love on regretting whenever i do see significant amounts
that had been wasted on playing gambling.
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Not everyone is into statistics, I would say keep it simple.  It is a game or leisure activity after all.  Some might find a benefit from tracking all they are doing exactly, sports bettors Ive heard of tracking exact outcomes vs odds offered and % available profit vs actual placed bets.    However so long as you keep to a set budget and dont exceed that, I think it more then likely is going to stay purely fun and many keep track in their head which is fine imo.   Dont think I ever had a perfect records kept outside of the website itself allowing me to go back years to look at match results vs bets etc.

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Not everyone is into statistics, I would say keep it simple.  It is a game or leisure activity after all.  Some might find a benefit from tracking all they are doing exactly, sports bettors Ive heard of tracking exact outcomes vs odds offered and % available profit vs actual placed bets.    However so long as you keep to a set budget and dont exceed that, I think it more then likely is going to stay purely fun and many keep track in their head which is fine imo.   Dont think I ever had a perfect records kept outside of the website itself allowing me to go back years to look at match results vs bets etc.

Well, it is not a game for some people really. These are the people that seriously want to make a buck at the casino.

The level of enjoyment they get is proportional to the amount they win.

That means that most of them are not very happy while gambling.

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When you write down the results, you can estimate the probability of a particular number falling out, and allocate your bets more intelligently. Although probability theory is a relative theory. There is always a chance of hitting a losing streak
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 #299

I'm saying something, when we see previous record losses, that usually doesn't give much encouragement, let's say, if we start from the point of view that we are in the red or negative numbers, what we do from then on will be a lot of pressure, a lot stress, because we want things to be much more efficient, and the thing is that if we start with the good record and suddenly what we do is pure loss, that is something that can lower our spirits even a lot, so when we are in those cases we can do everything possible to start things well, if we are people who have control then it is something that can be taken as a good thing, because if per day we spend 10usd to spend (for example) and of those 10usd we take it to 12 Well, it's not bad, we are starting well, we can leave it there and use that same balance of 10usd without touching the 2usd profit to subtract from the previous losses, if we continue with a streak of 1 or 3usd per day that Ahaha, that's a great success, at least that's how I see it.

Of course there are people who always look for big profits, because they say that small profits is not a good result, in itself it is not, but if we add that daily, little by little we will recover everything, and that is the idea we have I have to be very emphatic and have a lot of discipline, and even though it is very difficult to accomplish this, it is a reality that it is a very profitable way to be able to play money in a casino and add up, of course it is my own strategy, not just I have copied from no one, I am only applying a strategy that I have in trading and that has given me good results, whether good or bad, it works for me and I want to apply it in gambling, and so far it is good, of course not per day I can only spend 10usd if I am unlucky that day, because it doesn't matter, if I spend only 10usd without doing anything, I leave it like that and continue the next day, but it is important not to deposit more than 10usd.


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November 24, 2023, 08:40:53 PM
 #300

For me, It's not that important if you track all your records in gambling or not. I'm aware that it will be helpful for some gamblers because they can monitor their total spending amounts most specially if they know their limits and needs to control their money to avoid losing much  but for other gamblers who used to gamble and majority of the time they played is all about losing, It will be a bit frustrating because it reminds them of things that should be forgotten and never looked back on.
Most online casinos do have a track record of how much you have spent gambling in a particular month or over the week so if you want to at anytime check through the records you could go to history and find a full track record of how much you have spent over a period of time.

Keeping track record of how much you have spent gambling over a period of time will most likely get you to chasing losses, it will be much better if you make a budget monthly or weekly and keep to it, that way without going through the records, you will know how much you have spent so far and you will not be pushed to chasing losses because already you had had in mind to forfeit such amount if it turns out that way and you have lesser chances of chasing losses.

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