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October 10, 2023, 06:22:21 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

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October 10, 2023, 06:46:44 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

I don't keep records either because if I do or anyone else that does that means only one thing,whenever you will be back reviewing your spreadsheet with your win/loss data you will think not twice but more than that before you gamble.

It is true that when you don't keep it you only tend to remember your big wins but if your lost sessions are consecutive you will remember them too so I don't see any real benefit of keeping track,in order to avoid this use a preset budget for gambling every week or every month and stick to it,you will know the data without keeping a spreadsheet.

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October 10, 2023, 06:54:32 AM
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I don't keep any records because there's no reason for me to do so. Keeping a record will remind me how much money I've lost via gambling, which will frustrate me. Grin I know that the money spent for gambling are more like money spent for entertainment purposes, but it still kinda sucks, when you see how much you have spent on such unproductive hobby as gambling. Viewing my losses every day would make me wanna recover them, by gambling more and trying to get bigger profits. This leads to bigger bets, taking bigger risks and it seems more like a downward spiral towards developing gambling addiction.
What gambling games are you actually playing?

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October 10, 2023, 07:05:34 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Nah, it's hard to record the number of wins and losses, unless you bet on a online platform. But if you go to land case casinos, then there's no way you can track of everything. On the other hand, why do we really need to know though? I'm just curious. Because for me, if you gamble and that money is allotted for that, then win or lose, that is going to be ok.

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

Yes, same for me, I just have some numbers in my head, but I don't really jotted down everything in a log or notepad or something.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Perhaps if he had records though, maybe it's one reason why he will quit specially if he see the records and he is losing big amount of money. Something to pounder upon maybe when you are alone and think that maybe it's time to really stop this gambling for good.

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October 10, 2023, 07:07:17 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

I do not keep a physical record like an excel sheet to track my wins or losses. All of my records are mental records. I do have a budget for gambling that is the one I use to track how much I spend on gambling per month.

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Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.
This is the same with me. It doesn't really matter to me as far as I am not doing anything stupid like make my friends influence my gambling habits.

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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?
If you can keep it in your head and in your book fine. I think that the benefit here is for those who pay gambling taxes. And also for those who like to be meticulous.

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No. What makes you a bad gambler is irresponsible gambling.

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October 10, 2023, 07:14:11 AM
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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

No of course not, just because you don't record how you spend your money doesn't make you a bad gambler. As long as you are enjoying yourself and gamble within your means I don't see any problem with not recording all your gambling wins and losses.  There are some benefits for keeping records, you always know how much money you spend this month or this year on gambling. For me personally it's quite important to keep at least small records, because I have fixed limits on how much money I spend on gambling each month. Without using records it would become hard to stay on top of my gambling budget and I would be more likely to spend more than I wanted to. It all comes down to how much money you are willing to spend and if you can remain in control of your gambling habit without keeping records. It's a preference thing, like some people keep records for all their monthly purchases and others just spend the money they have more freely.
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October 10, 2023, 07:18:43 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Gambling is not a serious part of my financial activity so there is no need to keep records. I keep financial records of things that take a substantial chunk of my income and not gambling. Another reason why I don't care about keeping records is that it can also be complicated. I have a gambling budget but sometimes I can gamble below the budget and sometimes slightly above the budget. In most cases, I can't track my losses and wins because I might immediately use my wins to solve some needs and will also use another part to gamble again. Also in some cases, I receive cash from gambling firms for my wins and also use fiat to also gamble.

In fact, my gambling activities are just complicated. The only way I can track my gambling life is if I move around with a gambling record book which will aid me in recording my activities, but this will be impossible. Another pattern will be to keep all of my fiat gambling slips safe and do my calculations periodically. But for me, it is unnecessary since I gamble responsibly and hide my gambling activities from some people. Keeping these records can expose my secret to the wrong people. An irresponsible gambler is one who is suffering from a gambling disorder and not people who don't keep records. I you keep records but don't control your gambling life, you are a bad gambler.

However, keeping records can be a good way of controlling your gambling activities especially if you don't have a gambling budget. It could also be a vital means of evaluating your gambling life and making amendments where it is necessary.

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October 10, 2023, 07:50:20 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Same as the post above mine stated, I don’t keep record either and neither have I encountered anyone that does so i don’t really know what’s like keeping records.

Most of the times what I do is to go back to my previous game history for a specific time period and check how much I lost and how much I won, but for me to be keeping it documented seems like something that will take a little of my time. And for something that’s meant to be for fun I don’t really see any point of keeping record of it unless you’re becoming an impulsive gambler that no longer has control over how he/she goes about his funds when it comes to gambling.

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October 10, 2023, 09:15:02 AM
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I don't keep record of my gambling activities because it is a waste of time and that wouldn't prevent me from securing normal losses from the bets. It all boils down to having self-control on your gambling activities by using only the amount that you can afford to lose and don't chase your losses.

If I want to know how much I do use for gambling annually, it is easy to know because, I have a weekly gambling budget and is a specific amount, so I will just calculate it. This is how I plan my gambling budget at the end of every year, towards the beginning of a new year. I make sure that I do this often so that I can know if the amount I will be setting aside for my weekly gamble is high, and I will cut it down.

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October 10, 2023, 09:57:02 AM
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I dont keep records, dont want to feel bad Cheesy Joking Cheesy I see no point of reading records of my gambling history, as my vision of gambling is getting fun. I had or did not have fun - that is the only measurement I accept. Practically all the casinos have detailed stats about which slot or game gambler played, his win/lose ration, crypto of fiat he has used. But barely anyone run analysis on that. It is either you balance is zero or above it by the end of your session that matters.

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October 10, 2023, 10:18:05 AM
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Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
I don't do it, because in my opinion there is an easier way to find out how much money we have spent and whether it gives a profit or not by checking the deposit and withdrawal sections and doing the calculations. If the deposit is bigger, of course, we won't make a profit and vice versa. because recording it is not that important, in my opinion, even in trading, it is rare for traders to take that action to record it, especially in gambling, and I am sure that out of 1000 gamblers, maybe less than 10% record every win, the rest prefer to forget and stick to a weekly budget or monthly if it exceeds then stop playing until a week or month has passed then make a deposit again to plays.

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October 10, 2023, 10:31:14 AM
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Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
I can see the benefits but it doesn't necessarily make you a bad gambler. It's a good practice but what's more important is if you have a standard weekly or monthly bankroll and follow it. I mean you don't need a long list to monitor your bets when you stick to your limits regardless of the results.

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October 10, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
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Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

I wouldn't say that it will make you a bad gambler if you don't keep records. And I doubt that there will be ever a gambling keeping tabs of the money they are losing, doesn't make sense specially for a gambler that has been here for many years. They will just treat is as something like money in, money out.

And just don't feel bad as well, just play the usual and enjoy and entertain yourself. Because if you did record everything, there will be at some point that you will not feel love gambling anymore. Specially if you see the money that you have lost overtime.

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October 10, 2023, 12:37:30 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?
the upside I see when they do this, is that they know how much they have lost, how much they have won, how much they are spending every time they gamble, etc... some people might see this as unnecessary but there are people who want to document their gambling habits.

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
why would it make you a bad gambler? keeping a record doesn't determine if a person is a bad or a good gambler. if you ask me, what makes a person a bad gambler is if they are unable to control themselves, gamblers who can't control themselves often become gambling addicts.

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October 10, 2023, 12:45:11 PM
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is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?
Makes it feel like a serious occupation of book keeping. Removes the fun from the activity.
Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice,
Good practice to them, but it is not always neccessary if you know that you gamble with a fixed sum, and you are disciplined about it.
So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?
The benefit which is the only one I can think of is that it will help you know the amount you have spent gambling and what you have lost. It helps you keep track of your gambling so you can know when you are spending too much or loosing too much that will soon begin affecting your lifestyle.


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October 10, 2023, 01:47:44 PM
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I don't see the need to keep records because I consider gambling purely for entertainment and don't view it as a serious financial endeavor. However, I think keeping records of gambling activities can be a useful practice for several reasons, but it doesn't necessarily make you a bad gambler if you choose not to do so. It's only for awareness and tracking. If you are serious about gambling responsibly, this can be a helpful tool to gain better control over your habits and finances. For me, it's all about personal choice and a matter of opinion.

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October 10, 2023, 02:00:20 PM
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Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

 No, This is gambling not investing which you are just using money that you are willing to lose in exchange for the entertainment. Tracking your losses will just make you chase loss since you will always consider your previous losses on your current game that will make you very eager to hit that profit goal.

A bad gambler are those who keep tracking their records and bet accordingly based on their records status. Your current gambling game shouldn’t be affected by your previously losses while doing track records will just push you to keep thinking over your losses while playing. This is a good practice on investment but not on gambling.

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October 10, 2023, 02:00:25 PM
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I have never kept a record of my gambling expenses and I never will. Not having this habit doesn't make a person a bad or addicted gambler. Of course, keeping track of gambling expenses by recording them will help calculate expenses more easily but this doesn't apply to individuals who gamble at certain time intervals.

Especially if such a thing were to be done, recording the current winnings and losses for each game would be a complete torture because creating an income-expense statement after each game is a difficult process and takes a long time. If a person wants to keep track of the amount he/she spent and won in gambling, the most logical option would be to keep records of the money spent and the money earned and transferred to his/her wallet. To get a more detailed record, the gain and loss amounts can be noted on a daily basis or only the daily balance change can be followed by tracking the daily balance.

In addition, although it is not a perfect calculation method, it is possible to track gains, losses and balance by following the statistics provided by the casino.
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October 10, 2023, 02:06:39 PM
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This depends on the goal. If it is to maintain cash flow when gambling and make it easier to control yourself with the records created, then this would be a good thing to implement. On the other hand, if this only makes someone more frustrated because they see losses that are too big and become uncontrollable, then it is best not to keep any records.

I agree with @acroman08, because keeping records or not that makes us bad as gamblers, but our wrong management that will make us bad. Because it is not recording losses and wins that will make us gamblers who are too eager to win. However, uncontrolled inner desires that increase addiction and greed make things worse.

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This depends on the goal. If it is to maintain cash flow when gambling and make it easier to control yourself with the records created, then this would be a good thing to implement. On the other hand, if this only makes someone more frustrated because they see losses that are too big and become uncontrollable, then it is best not to keep any records.

I agree with @acroman08, because keeping records or not that makes us bad as gamblers, but our wrong management that will make us bad. Because it is not recording losses and wins that will make us gamblers who are too eager to win. However, uncontrolled inner desires that increase addiction and greed make things worse.

Agree.
It's not like a business where the gambler has to have a balance sheet and there is no one subtracting the taxes from the withdrawals. To me, it is not necessary to have those records.

I have no reason to look at my losses as it just makes me regret what I'm doing so no records. But If I wanna do it, I would just look into the history of my account from deposit history down to betting history which I think will reveal how much I have lost.


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October 10, 2023, 02:31:48 PM
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Keeping gambling records is actually not forced, it's up to you whether you want to record your gambling activities or not, but recording your wins and losses can be a useful practice and maybe it will help you in the future. In fact, recording your gambling activities can provide benefits such as you can see how many wins and losses you experience, whether in 1 month or 1 week - you can get a clear picture of whether your gambling activity is mostly wins or losses and that can be a conclusion for your gambling performance.
And what's more, it can help you to record expenses in your gambling activities, whether it is profitable or not, everything will be available to you and it will help you in managing your finances.

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October 10, 2023, 02:40:42 PM
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In my case I keep a record in my notebook and in my head. This helps me to understand that I always need to maintain the same strategy so that I don't exceed the limits of the amount I deposit to play, the amount I place on each bet and how much money I am losing, winning and withdrawing. because even if I play for fun, there have to be limits on the amount of money I can put into playing. for example, if in a week I deposit 10$, I already have in my head that I will make 2 bets of 5$ each or 5 bets of 1$ or I can distribute the amount in another way, but in case of losing the 10$ I already know that the following week I must deposit $10 again, but in case of victory I also know that the following week I will not deposit anything, in other words I gained 1 more week to play

Now when I see a scenario where one week I put in $10, I lost, in another week I lost $10, I lost in another week, I lost $10, so I'm at a loss of $30, so I need to change my game strategy because the current one isn't working. I know they are going to say that gambling is not about making a profit, obviously they are right and I think so too, but it would also be ridiculous to just be playing to lose and putting money into the casino all the time, and not having control over the money I am to lose. Because if I didn't write down and create rules, I would have a situation where one day I put in $40, I lose everything, another day I put in $100 and I lose everything, another day I put in $1000 and I lose everything. As the person doesn't write anything down, they will hardly be aware that in 3 weeks they have already lost $1140, it was money that could have bought things in the real world or done other things in the real world

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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Aside from getting records for your tax purposes, I don’t see any point on doing this kind of thing on gambling since gambling should be for entertainment not a form of profit making that needs to be recorded every game. I remember you can always request this kind of records to the support to have records for specific time frame.

Playing alone will makes me busy while recording profit/loss for the game will surely out of my mind once I’m done gambling. It’s not mandatory to do a record unless this is required for your tax purposes.

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Not keeping records of your gamble results does not make you a bad gambler. I think it is good to keep record of gambling activities including your wins and  losses because that would guide you on budgetary to know if you  are okay with  your gambling outcome or not or your budgeting plans if the needs be to cut it short or increase it. This would also help you to know how often you frequent gambling  site or house to gamble and from this, you could tell if you are getting addicted to gambling  and possible put in place measures to curtail your frequent visit to casinos or otherwise.

Notably, this could guide a gambler to know exact games, days and time at which he or she makes wins and losses. It would give the gambler clues on what to do and as well the gaming style,pattern or strategy used to win and the ones used which cost them their games to avoid or build a good strategy for the game again while keeping records of the formulae used. I think it is good  to keep records of your gambling activities to put you on the safe side.

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Not recording deposits - withdrawals and not recording wins or losses, this is meaningless because it already knows from the overall records you keep it will be more losses. Cheesy

So why keep records? It's not about trading.

I feel that this is for fun so there is no intention whatsoever to record every activity in gambling, I feel not bad as long as I do this because I am prepared if I lose the next time it happens.
For me the bad thing is not being able to control the money you use for gambling.

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October 10, 2023, 03:59:44 PM
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Honestly, it would only be a waste of your time if you recorded all your expenses and income from your gambling activities, whether you win or lose, that is clearly not important for gamblers to do, simply limiting your budget every time you gamble is more than enough, therefore it is important to Limit every budget and bet so that you don't cross the line when gambling, let alone become addicted to gambling.

You won't be seen as a bad gambler because it's not important unless you are a mathematician or an accountant, maybe it's just important to calculate it, after all what's the point of calculating it, just enjoy your game when gambling, winning and losing is normal, the point is to understand everything. the risk of losing money because by understanding that you will become more mature when gambling, you don't have to keep talking about profits, limit your budget as an alarm so you don't exceed the limit. that's an important thing  Wink

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I don't keep track of my wins and losses. But I always allocate the same amount of money every week or month, depending on how much I have. Perhaps those who record their wins and losses think that it is good because they can check how much money they use and how much their wins and losses are to know what they should do. The note also reminds them to always have limits in gambling so that they do not gamble excessively and can even start reducing their gambling activities. So the benefits of having a note depend on each person because if they have a note, it means there is a goal they want to achieve or the note can remind them that gambling is for entertainment only.

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October 10, 2023, 06:09:02 PM
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Not keeping records of your gambling activities definitely doesn't make you a bad gambler, especially if you are gambling just for fun and don't care much if you lose the money you are using. I believe gamblers who gamble to earn money will need to keep a record because they will need to have a count of how much they have used so far, how much they have won, and how much they have lost so that they can have an estimate of how they are doing at the end of the week or month.

Gamblers who gamble just to have some fun and just have an allocated budget don't need to keep a record of anything, they can just gamble, have some fun, and forget about what has happened because they don't need to do any evaluation or manage anything, etc. because they don't care about the wins and losses.

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October 10, 2023, 06:15:31 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
Nope, im not a fan on keeping up some records or tallying on how much i did spend on gambling because it would really be just that too hassle and on the same time you would really be that be able to see on how much you had totally be able to spend up in overall on which if you are on a losing situation then you would really be having those thoughts on trying out to recover on what you have lost on which it is really that a huge cons if you do mold up yourself on being that desperate or really that impulsive just because you've seen that on how big you have lost already and if you are a certain person who isnt really that good on handling your temper or emotion then this kind of behavior isnt really that recommendable.

Play on the amount on which you can afford to lose and never ever make yourself that consider on trying to look back on the money that you had spent out because it would really be just
making you that stirring up the emotions that you would be felt. Always better not to look back with those losses on which as long you are aware on how much money you are
spending and allocated on gambling then it should really be just that fine.

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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

I have a special book to record all my expenses in gambling and the winnings I get in gambling. I did this just to show my curiosity about gambling. Even though gambling is not the place to make a profit, I do this just to find out whether the gambling I have been doing can give me a profit or vice versa a loss.
And after I did this I was able to get the results that the gambling I did could only harm me financially. However, I consider that this is a fair price that I have to pay to get pleasure and excitement.

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October 10, 2023, 06:30:37 PM
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I don't keep any records because there's no reason for me to do so.
I guess the OP is making a gamble as source of income lol I don't think gamblers need to keep records or track their winnings or losses it's a bit much if you just want to have fun.

Keeping a record will remind me how much money I've lost via gambling, which will frustrate me.
Depends on the mood, if you want to be happy look at your winning track, and if you want to be frustrated just look at you losses  Grin

I know that the money spent for gambling are more like money spent for entertainment purposes, but it still kinda sucks, when you see how much you have spent on such unproductive hobby as gambling. Viewing my losses every day would make me wanna recover them, by gambling more and trying to get bigger profits. This leads to bigger bets, taking bigger risks and it seems more like a downward spiral towards developing gambling addiction.
I don't usually think about my losses, as long as I played that long haha. But honestly, on random times when it just pops out to my mind, it gets me mad actually thinking about how much I have lost to gambling. Keeping records of your losses would probably make you greedy to make it back to you, that's what every gamblers think actually, money revenge is addicting, so I don't advise recording to anyone that is involved in gambling. Perhaps, if you want to know your winning rate, that would be fine.
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October 10, 2023, 06:35:08 PM
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Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
It does not make you a bad gambler, the criteria for a good and bad gambler is a gambler who makes profit. A gambler who wins and keeps making profit from gambling often is a good gambler, and a gambler who fails often is a bad gambler. So you are still a good gambler if you gamble without keeping records and still win.

Keeping record of what you use in gambling makes you a responsible gambler not a good gambler.

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October 10, 2023, 06:37:04 PM
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I don't keep any matetial data of my losses, but I have some notion in my head of how much I've already lost. I think that is important to know how much you have profited or lost gambling in order to be a good gambler who will play responsibly, always respecting your personal limits. When you don't give importance to these informations, it's much more likely you are going to develop a disfunctional behavior, wasting money you couldn't, because you aren't conscious about your previous activities and results.

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October 10, 2023, 06:45:36 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?
I think we need to be keeping account of all our winnings because this is the only way we are going to know whether we are making progress or not. Sometimes we would have used a lots of funds to bet and not make winnings but the moment we start making small profits, we might be thinking that we are making profits which might not be the case because we are not keeping records of our winnings and loses.

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Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
Record keeping had helped me a lot when I gambler to assertain whether I am making progress or not. Not having record or keep it could make us a bad gambler and could even increase how often we gamble.

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October 10, 2023, 07:25:13 PM
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Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?
I don’t keep record of my gambling results, I don’t see any reason to keep track of them because I believe all my winnings are based on luck so keeping record of it will be of no use. If i lose a bet i only get paranoid and check the game that make me lose so after that i just scroll past it and move on with my life because every game played has different ways you should approach it so it doesn’t matter if you keep record of setled bets.

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.
You should have asked why he said iit is a good practice and share it with everyone here so if it’s something that would help and something we should also practice we could have done so. I only remember some scenario where i won big amounts or when i win a game I considered as a loss i always remembered such games but other than that i don’t usually remember anything.

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
It doesn’t make you a bad gambler in my opinion unless maybe until you are aware of how helpful it can be and you refuse to practice it that’s when i think you should consider yourself a bad gambler.

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October 10, 2023, 07:50:45 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

I have a special book to record all my expenses in gambling and the winnings I get in gambling. I did this just to show my curiosity about gambling. Even though gambling is not the place to make a profit, I do this just to find out whether the gambling I have been doing can give me a profit or vice versa a loss.
And after I did this I was able to get the results that the gambling I did could only harm me financially. However, I consider that this is a fair price that I have to pay to get pleasure and excitement.
Having a track isnt really that bad which same as you mentioned that it would really be giving out that kind of track on which you could really be able see whether you are already spending that much or not.
On the time that you do realize that it is already getting out of hand or spending is already that too much then this is the best time that you would really be needing to stop or else then you are spending something which it isnt worth or it would really be just creating out that kind of regret. I do agree on some words on here is that on the time that you do see that you are seeing huge spending or losses then it might really be the cause for you
to play even more because you would really be having plans on trying out to recover it and this is one of the cons on having those kind of trackings or listing about your spending.

If you do find out yourself to be that having that kind of impulsive emotion on which it would really be easily be changed up on the time that you would really be having those kind of insights then
its better not to make out some records because it would really be just that making you desperate and it would be better to have that way on which you should not have that kind of
tracking so that you wont really be always coming back in the past because we know that if we do see huge losses or negative then that kind of urge on trying out to recover would  really be there
and something strong on which not all would really be that having that good control towards themselves.

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October 10, 2023, 07:55:15 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

I don't think many gamblers keep records of the amount they spend on gambling or their winnings from gambling because I don't think it makes much sense in that way. I believe having records of the amount someone has spent on gambling can really lead to depression, which can cause a stable health condition. In other words, it is also a good idea to have records in case you see that you are losing a lot, someone can use records to judge whether to continue or not.
 
As for me, it was before I was trying to have records of any amount I do spend on gambling every month, so after a season I will now calculate everything together plus my winnings to see whether I lose or gain, but at the end of every season, I always discover that I always at lost, so from there I will be thinking if I had saved that money, I could use it to achieve tangible things by now, so from there I always start regretting myself, so all this later always results in sickness for me, so as I discovered that I always fall sick after seeing all this result all the time, I decided to stop having records about gambling.

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October 10, 2023, 08:04:08 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?
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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
I prefer not keeping records for it's a total waste as it doesn't bring back the losses but rather can make you start nursing a regretting thought whenever you do a check and balance of all the bets you have lost and  how you could have used those money you lost to gambling for some else meaningful which would have yield you a profit.

There's no benefits and that's why the idea sucks. Or if it was that at the end of the year I'll have to give an account to the casino about my losses and wins to be eligible for some bonuses, then the idea would have made a sense keeping the records.




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October 10, 2023, 08:06:07 PM
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If you keep records, it may lead to you being hospitalized for a mental issue lol. Why would you want to see how much money you have lost? Most gamblers, that's what they are going to have a record of. If you are a poker player or sportsbetting only, then records would be a good thing, but I wouldn't wanna know my stats for any other sort of gambling.

I guess another way to look at it would be, if you know how much you are losing it may inspire you to quit gambling?

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October 10, 2023, 11:20:42 PM
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I think exactly the opposite you are suggesting. Not keeping records on your money makes you a good gambler, because in my opinion keeping records in your losses and wins makes it easier for you to chase those losses you have recorded in your notebook.  Besides, since the casino is likely to win in the long term, then it will very possible you will stay in negative or red numbers during most of your gambling history, which may encourage you to try to gamble more and with bigger amounts of money, in a reckless way, in order to try to improve your record.

The best approach is the most obvious one, let losses to be forgotten and enjoy the wins your get. That is simpler and more healthy for your mental health.

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I don’t think keeping records is a must or does it gain an advantage for us gamblers. Simply because gambling is not skill based that the more you are exposed to losses, the more you become better in gambling. Maybe in trading it’s actually a must but in gambling, knowing it’s a kind of thing that aims to entertain us, for me that’s not really important. It’s okay for me to lose because that’s what gambling is all about, making us lose so that all the profits will go direct into the house. Except for lucky gamblers, but for most of us, we all make losses and keeping records of our wins and losses still does not guarantee us to become skilled and profitable gamblers.

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October 10, 2023, 11:45:23 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

If you intend to gamble for profit or perhaps gamble as a job then keeping a record of all the money you use for gambling is important. By having records, it will be easy for you to calculate your expenses and profits while gambling, and calculate the total profits

However, for me who uses gambling as entertainment, even though it is sometimes stressful if I often lose, I don't think it's necessary. I only gamble if I have money and I am ready if the money I use for gambling runs out

I don't think taking notes when gambling doesn't make you a good or bad gambler, I think bad gamblers are those who spend all their money on gambling without thinking about other consequences when they run out of all that money.

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October 10, 2023, 11:48:35 PM
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I don't keep a detailed record of such, but I do keep a record of how much money is going out of my wallets every time I gamble or bet on something. It's something that is important more than keeping track of your win/loss IMO. You will be aware of what's happening with your money if you know how much is going towards leisure and 'fun' activities compared to what you really need to live day by day. Not keeping a record of things doesn't make you a bad gambler, it just makes your financial moves bad because you are not making informed decisions by missing a lot of details.
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

I do track my winnings and losses. Purpose is to know how much I can gamble for the next days or weeks. It helped me limit my losses and maintain my winnings at the same time unlike before when I was just going all out without being conscious of how much I have lost already. In those instances I got too affected by my gambling behavior and in some instances, pushes a gambler to bet more then followed by addiction. We should be using gambling as a way to just kill time but since it involves money then we should be more aware that things won’t work that way.Is it bad not tracking your losses? Yes no doubt. Don’t wait for that moment that you will question yourself where dis your money go and found yourself looking for money just to get back with what you’ve lost out of frustrations. Start it early.

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October 10, 2023, 11:59:25 PM
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I don't keep a detailed record of such, but I do keep a record of how much money is going out of my wallets every time I gamble or bet on something. It's something that is important more than keeping track of your win/loss IMO. You will be aware of what's happening with your money if you know how much is going towards leisure and 'fun' activities compared to what you really need to live day by day. Not keeping a record of things doesn't make you a bad gambler, it just makes your financial moves bad because you are not making informed decisions by missing a lot of details.
Keeping track of the spending gives you a detailed information on what have you spent and what you've won out of it. This could help you keep track of which bet have brought you profit and where you've lost it. These days gambling platforms gives the overall profit/loss status which lets us know whether we're on the profit or loss. Keeping track is good, particularly with sports betting. Maybe it can help with further bets on same teams playing in the future.

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October 11, 2023, 03:52:01 AM
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Keeping gambling records is actually not forced, it's up to you whether you want to record your gambling activities or not, but recording your wins and losses can be a useful practice and maybe it will help you in the future. In fact, recording your gambling activities can provide benefits such as you can see how many wins and losses you experience, whether in 1 month or 1 week - you can get a clear picture of whether your gambling activity is mostly wins or losses and that can be a conclusion for your gambling performance.
And what's more, it can help you to record expenses in your gambling activities, whether it is profitable or not, everything will be available to you and it will help you in managing your finances.
Yes, that's right, at least recording gambling activities can make us more disciplined in spending money. It's important to remember that sometimes gamblers have the ambition to win, so by writing down notes and expenses used for gambling, it can at least make someone more committed to not overdoing things. play so that with these records we can see how far we have played and the extent of the losses we have experienced. Looking at these records can be a reminder and can minimize bigger losses.
Maybe many gamblers don't do this because they don't think that keeping a record of gambling matters is not that important, the most important thing is just playing to achieve their goals, so they don't realize how big a loss they are experiencing before someone else reminds them.

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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?


It's actually good to monitor you wins and losses in gambling as it will help you to manage your funds, but it is only ideal as it takes lots of time and effort. I do not keep records as well, and it does not mean that it makes me a bad gambler. The only thing that I am doing to monitor my gambling activities is through my fund, as I am setting a strict budget for gambling. That way, I will know how much wins and loss I have earned without keeping a record on my wins and losses. I do not have any physical records or written, all of which are just in my head. It's also a good thing to monitor what kind of gambling games you are favorable, how much I have gain and loss in that game because this will also allow you to pick the most suitable and favorable gambling games for you without keeping records.



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October 11, 2023, 04:34:01 AM
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I dont see any advantage if you record your winnings and losses in gambling because it is not an investment that you will be tracking every penny to understand where your money is going. Gambling is for entertainment this is like, are you tracking how many bottles of beer you have been drinking in the past few years? Not right? We were just able to remember if we gambled yesterday on how much we spent and won for sure but not the entire year. Also if you are playing online there are records there about your winnings but I still don't bother to check it.
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I don't record anything at all and I don't think I am a bad gambler just because of that. It may actually have its own perks because you won't be stressed out at chasing losses if ever you forget how much you spent. This is also the reason why I like betting using cryptocurrencies, that way I won't know how much I spent although I still have a rough estimation of how much was gone.
Some gamblers do like being formal and put it all in a spreadsheet while some just bet whatever they want and let it be so for me it will depend on what kind of a gambler are you.
IMO, keeping track of the records is added work and I just like to enjoy my game as much as possible. Not stressing about the details.

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October 11, 2023, 04:49:22 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?
If I knew all the winning and losing records, it would be stressful to see the bad records because I lose more often. Lol
There's no use for me unless other people want to see which ratio has more wins or losses.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
I said you will be stressed out mentally seeing a lot of money lost, I feel this has no benefit at all unless you want to know the expenses in gambling, I feel this is not so much of a concern because the basis is fun not making a profit.

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October 11, 2023, 09:42:23 AM
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Recording the wins and losses you get from gambling can remind you not to exceed your limits in gambling. But if your losses are more than your wins, it's better not to gamble and record them because it can give you a headache thinking about them. You should gamble without any burdens and gamble because you want to have fun so that when you gamble, you won't think about many things other than just having fun.

The advantage of recording your gambling activities is that you can see how much you spend on gambling so you can decide whether you want to continue gambling, reduce your gambling activities, or even stop gambling. You don't become a bad gambler by keeping track of your wins and losses but it is important to know the amount of money you use to gamble.

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October 11, 2023, 10:21:35 AM
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I don't see the need to keep records because I consider gambling purely for entertainment and don't view it as a serious financial endeavor. However, I think keeping records of gambling activities can be a useful practice for several reasons, but it doesn't necessarily make you a bad gambler if you choose not to do so. It's only for awareness and tracking. If you are serious about gambling responsibly, this can be a helpful tool to gain better control over your habits and finances. For me, it's all about personal choice and a matter of opinion.
Tracking is certainly useful because playing a gambling is still a kind of expense and it's like a tradition for the most of us to track or record all of our expenses. I think this is to see if where our money goes on why it disappeared and maybe it can help us remove the things which are less important next time and use the money in the important ones.

If we are not struggling financially if we are already playing a gambling on the side, then yes we are not a bad gambler. If we are playing online, a gambling site can keep records of our betting data's. We can request it to them if we missed recording it before and we are curious how it looks like now.

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October 11, 2023, 10:55:52 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?
No, I never keep a record, I gamble with money that I can afford to lose, so it is no use keeping a record of money that I allocate for gambling is considered not counted in our budget.

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Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if it's good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.
To each is his own on every gambler, some gamblers keep record some do not it really depends on their gambling preferences and their characters some gamblers wants to see how they spend their money in gambling and some just ignore the money that they lose in gambling

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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?
Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

You will just disappoint yourself if you see the money you've lost from gambling, you're not a bad gambler as long all the money you've loss from gambling are money you allocate and you are comfortable losing.

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October 11, 2023, 10:58:06 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
A gambler who keeps the record of their winnings or their losses gives you the benefit of clearly knowing the amount of money you have spend/earned. However, I don't see the need of doing it, AFAIK, gambling sites do have the feature or the data of each user that shows on your profile the trading history that includes your winning amount and losses. It's better and less work on your end.

No, but the chance of losing the track of your game/s is high. Some circumstances might get you like overspending on your gambling activity, missed to keep your winnings, and a lot more.


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October 11, 2023, 11:09:19 AM
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Honestly, I don't really bother with that anymore. I mean, I used to try keeping records, but it got pretty boring, you know? When what you expect doesn't match up with what actually happens, it's easy to throw in the towel. So, here's what I do now. Whenever I place a bet and get lucky, I cash out right then and there and enjoy the winnings. I see it as a major win and just start fresh in my next gambling session. The whole 'keeping records' thing really only makes sense for games where you have a shot at long-term success. With luck-based games, it's pretty much pointless; you're pretty much guaranteed to lose anyway. All you'd end up tracking is your losses, not your wins.

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October 11, 2023, 11:20:58 AM
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If you keep records, it may lead to you being hospitalized for a mental issue lol. Why would you want to see how much money you have lost? Most gamblers, that's what they are going to have a record of. If you are a poker player or sportsbetting only, then records would be a good thing, but I wouldn't wanna know my stats for any other sort of gambling.

I guess another way to look at it would be, if you know how much you are losing it may inspire you to quit gambling?
You would really be definitely having that mental issue because if you do see that your losses keeps piling up then it would really be making that kind of thinking that you should really be needing to recover it out and as long you do have the money then you would be thinking that you do need to cope up or break even and you will continue to play as long you do have the balance.
Its not really that suggestable on doing so but if you do want to have some track when it comes to your gambling then its not bad to have but be sure that you should be having that good control
and dont make yourself that changing up the moods on the time that you do see that the numbers are already that increasing due to continous losing or loses is more than with your winning then this most likely the case.

Not keeping records make you a bad gambler? No its not. This is really just that a reference since there are really that people who do really love
on tracking on everything which it is really that part on having that kind of moderation towards your gambling activity.

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October 11, 2023, 11:57:19 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

For me I don't necessarily keep the records by writing it down but I just have it on my head. There are some clubs or team that I mostly keep their records because it helps me to predict very well, I know the position to place my bet when it comes to that team, if I can give them winning or a draw. Keeping records helps you not to repeat a mistake you've once had,
In as much as I keep a good record of my win, I do so as well for my losses. Record keeping makes you a professional gambler, it helps you to understand the intricacies of everything team you want to place your stake on.

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October 11, 2023, 12:11:33 PM
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If you're thinking about getting into the gambling game, not as an operator but as someone who believes in themselves and wants to give it a shot, remember to keep some records. You know, just like any regular business does. It helps you figure out if you're doing well or not, so you can make the right call on whether to keep going or call it quits.

And hey, when it comes to your own journey, it's a smart move to keep a record of your moves. Trust me, winning in gambling is totally doable, but don't overcomplicate things and rush into it. Take it slow, learn the ropes, and grow over time. If the stress is too much, no need to push yourself too hard. Just have some fun and gamble casually.

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October 11, 2023, 12:28:32 PM
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It's fine not to keep records of your betting activities. Imagine if you keep a record for more than 10 years of betting. Cheesy But I did think about having a record of my betting activities at least yearly because I want to know if I am winning or not. If you have ample time daily then maybe you can record your betting activities. It will help you improve IMO. More losses means you can start thinking about changing your strategies. More winnings means you will be challenged to do better especially if you are into sports betting where analysis is too important.

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October 11, 2023, 12:38:12 PM
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It depends on each person.

There are so many influencer always suggest people to create a monthly budget and always write every single cent you spend. But I'm not follow that because it's time wasting and I adopt frugal living which is making sure I will not spend any money for unnecessary thing. If I already good to control myself to spend money, why I need to have a monthly budget?

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October 11, 2023, 12:54:14 PM
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I don't think so. There's a big chance most gamblers don't note all the bets that they do. They just do it directly because they are having way much fun. Maybe gamblers who are also accountants will do this kind of thing.
You are not a bad gambler just because you don't list all your bets, it's just that it's the traditional way of gambling, we don't really need to do it unless our memory is that bad.  Grin
You should've made a poll on who are recording all their bets and not. I bet the "not" option will win.
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October 11, 2023, 12:58:47 PM
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Keeping gambling records could have both good and bad effect. If you keep a record of your gambling you can calculate how much you are spending and if you are going over your budget or not. Having a strict budget in gambling is a must. So if you keep the record off ever win and lose, you can easily calculate your spending. This is the good side of keeping records of your gambling.

Now if we come to the bad side, you could get into depression or some sort of anxiety problem in the long run if you keep the record and go through it occasionally. Gambling is based on luck and the money you put into gambling should be considered already gone. So if you keep a record of that, it will only create anxiety. Gambling is for fun and entertainment. When you keep it record you put the money in front. And putting money before entertainment will only cause addiction. I don't know how other people will think about it, but this is how I think things will go with this.
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October 11, 2023, 01:08:33 PM
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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?
It seems that gamblers will be too lazy to deal with financial records spent on gambling, especially if they have to calculate expenses and income when they are involved in gambling. The most obvious advantage if you record your expenses and income when gambling is only one, namely knowing how much money you have spent and how much money you have earned. Another obvious benefit I didn't find the answer for myself, because I had never done this before.

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
I'm a typical person who never takes notes when involved in gambling, so I don't know whether this can make you a bad gambler. If it is the case of gambling that makes us addicted, keeping track of expenses/income or not, it will most likely make us much worse.

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October 11, 2023, 01:21:16 PM
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I don't think so. There's a big chance most gamblers don't note all the bets that they do. They just do it directly because they are having way much fun. Maybe gamblers who are also accountants will do this kind of thing.

You don't need to be an accountant to handle this task. Just keeping track of your bets involves basic addition and subtraction. At the very least, it will keep you informed about your current status, making your gambling journey more grounded in reality. If you're only betting for fun and not staking a substantial amount, this may not be a critical step. However, if you're taking gambling more seriously, it's essential to manage your bankroll effectively. After all, your ultimate objective is to win, and the first step in achieving that is safeguarding your bankroll through prudent budgeting.

You are not a bad gambler just because you don't list all your bets, it's just that it's the traditional way of gambling, we don't really need to do it unless our memory is that bad.  Grin
You should've made a poll on who are recording all their bets and not. I bet the "not" option will win.

The majority of us don't maintain a record of our gambling activities. It's not a common practice because many of us engage in gambling as a casual pastime. Wins and losses come and go, and it's often seen as part of the normal gambling experience.
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October 11, 2023, 01:49:12 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
I don't really take down notes on every gambling session I have. I also never did even when the time I'm still an addict and today where I play for mostly the entertainment I get from gambling. I think that it will just make you overthink if you have some list of wins and losses like if on average you are on a loss, there a chance that you might chase those losses into at least break even which can somehow make you deposit more and gamble more. The mental approach will be different on each of us but I think it's not worth putting extra time in taking notes unless you have a way that you can use it to put more wins on your account.
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October 11, 2023, 01:49:59 PM
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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

No, you should not, it will make you feel disappointed if you find out that you can buy a car with all your losses, you will forget all the excitement and fun because of the disappointment from all your losses and I don't think gamblers have more winnings than their losses.

You cannot list the feeling or the enjoyment you experience in gambling and everything you've enjoyed will vanish if you compute the amount you lose
Paying for something that will bring you fun like going to a movie should not be calculated because you paid to have that, so is the same in gambling, you enjoy the game and you are okay with it so no need to keep records on something you pay to enjoy.
I never met a gambler who keeps a record of what he spent on gambling.

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October 11, 2023, 06:39:56 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
Its possible that several people have already answered and I'm also not sure whether my answer has been answered by other people. as far as I remember, active gamblers dont have time to record it all and on the one hand, recording all wins, losses and recording all the money used for gambling will only make myself regret because active gamblers tend to keep losing at gambling so they not do this and I myself will never record how many times I bet and how many times I lose because if I look at the record it makes myself regret and my thoughts become complicated.

recording every expense and income from his gambling activities, maybe the positive impact is that he will always be careful not to spend too much money just to gamble and the bad impact is that someone will only be sad for days regretting himself because he has seen the total money he has lost in gambling. but even if you dont record all these things you can not be said to be a bad gambler because we gamble for fun, why should we take notes like its a job?

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October 11, 2023, 06:43:55 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Keeping a record of all your spending itself a good practice which will help you to realize where and how much money has been spent on something and if you feel the amount spent is too much for you then it can be lowered in future so will help you to free from your monthly budget.

Now talking about myself, I don't because I know I am spending very little on gambling so it's like something negligible amount for me so it can be recorded in the misc expenses but if you are someone who gambles a lot and wants to know how much you are betting then doing it will be a good thing for your finance management.

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October 11, 2023, 06:56:34 PM
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@mate, I don't think so. I say that keeping records of your gambling habits, either the ones you win or the ones you lose, does not make you a bad gambler. I also think that keeping records of gambling will only cause emotional pains, mostly when you come across the bets you almost won and the ones you won when you mistakenly bet it with small amount instead of staking it with a large amount of money.

So there are no benefits to keeping records of gambling, as they said, and I think you also believe that gambling is for fun, then why keep records of it? It is just for you to have fun while it lasts.

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October 11, 2023, 07:02:09 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Keeping a record is only useful in reminding yourself to take it easy, because otherwise you are going to lose focus of your losses. So I think of it more of a psychologically helpful tool rather than anything else.

Whether or not you decide to keep one is all on you. Having one does not make you a better gambler it just makes you a more responsible one, at most.

Personally, I do not keep any such things. I think that I am way to lazy for that.

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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

No, you should not, it will make you feel disappointed if you find out that you can buy a car with all your losses, you will forget all the excitement and fun because of the disappointment from all your losses and I don't think gamblers have more winnings than their losses.

You cannot list the feeling or the enjoyment you experience in gambling and everything you've enjoyed will vanish if you compute the amount you lose
Paying for something that will bring you fun like going to a movie should not be calculated because you paid to have that, so is the same in gambling, you enjoy the game and you are okay with it so no need to keep records on something you pay to enjoy.
I never met a gambler who keeps a record of what he spent on gambling.

Don't want to do those accounts either, because I was doing them and that was lowering my spirits, so I took care of what I had lost and although it's not much I can recover, but I don't do it anymore because that's what I start chasing those losses and trying to If I get them back, that won't let me play well, so I prefer to have a different control, that when I have money all I do is just play and that's it, if I lose well and if I win too, then there is no way I can do anything to feel better If I go with the numbers it won't help me, and the casinos are very good, I have many games that are good.

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October 11, 2023, 07:23:50 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
I don't think it does make you a bad gambler. Everyone of us would like to do what will give them peace of mind, not another way around.

Take for instance a gambler keeping records of his or her losses on gambling. Won't that be heartbreaking, for someone to calculate all the losses made in gambling in a month?

In a nutshell, I haven't seen or heard of any gamblers who keep records of all their losses or wins to gambling. What gamblers do is place their bet on the games they want to bet on, and after betting on them, whether they win or lose, that's it but not take note of how it happens.

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October 11, 2023, 07:35:47 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
The closest I have seen is keeping record of the combination played , that is, for those whose specialty is gambling or betting by making predictions against odds, after a particular combination or predictions paid off well, they make a record incase to try it again.

Those that gamble using digital apps might not have a need of manually recording their wins because I believe there's history of games played or gamble made, be it wins or losses.

I do think it is good practice to actually write a record of money spent on gambling, because it would help one make a better budget next time and to know if one is becoming more addicted and spend more attention there.

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October 11, 2023, 08:26:00 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

I only play in an online casino so I have the records saved in my bet history.

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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

The good thing with recording is that you can have your audit anytime without problem.  You can check if you are in green or red.  It is advice that we should make track of our expenditure in order to know the reason if there is a shortage of fund and adjust accordingly.

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Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Not really if you gamble responsibly and only allocate or use funds that is free of any obligations.  What makes a gambler bad is spending irresponsibly using fund that is allocated for family usage.
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October 11, 2023, 08:41:35 PM
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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

I can't think of any good results of keeping a record from your losses or your wins, except that it will make you realise how much money you have spent in gambling and how money you have lost so far. Outside that, there are nothing you can do about it because all of it are history.
Positive realisations will make you minimize the expenses in gambling, but if you disregard the record then it's better not to keep any record at all lol.
Lastly, not keeping records doesn't make you bad at all, but having records can do you good.

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I can't think of any good results of keeping a record from your losses or your wins, except that it will make you realise how much money you have spent in gambling and how money you have lost so far. Outside that, there are nothing you can do about it because all of it are history.
Positive realisations will make you minimize the expenses in gambling, but if you disregard the record then it's better not to keep any record at all lol.
Lastly, not keeping records doesn't make you bad at all, but having records can do you good.
We have different ideas and minds, quite a lot to handle. Feeling remorse for your past mistakes each time you turn to these records, it functions as a reminder for the good and terrible moments encountered in gambling, so it's completely irrational to me, and I don't value looking back, perhaps for what reason? I have more steps to take and targets to meet; settling for fewer hours will simply deplete me and remind me of earlier huge losses; I get it now, mistakes are learned and corrected, therefore I'm doing my best to do more efficiently the next time.

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October 11, 2023, 09:12:32 PM
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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

I can't think of any good results of keeping a record from your losses or your wins, except that it will make you realise how much money you have spent in gambling and how money you have lost so far. Outside that, there are nothing you can do about it because all of it are history.
Positive realisations will make you minimize the expenses in gambling, but if you disregard the record then it's better not to keep any record at all lol.
Lastly, not keeping records doesn't make you bad at all, but having records can do you good.
Some could really be able to control themselves even if they are aware on how much they have lost or win on which if this one ends up on negative then for sure there would really be people who would really be minding about recovery of those loses on which it is really that ending up on negative on having those kind of tally on which it shouldn't have done if it were be ending up on making yourself that desperate but somewhat there are people who do really just simply liking on having some track about their spending on which this might be one of the method that makes them aware that they are losing that much and then would completely stop on the time that they would really be reaching out their threshold. We do know that limitation will really vary into a certain individual.

Making records isnt really that bad as long you dont mind about the further actions you should be doing specially on lose recovery because this is the only problem i do see
that it could potentially mess up this kind of plan because if you are aware on how much you have lost then recovery thinking will really be your priority.

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A responsible gambler should be able to keep records of his or her gambling routine, activities, expenses and what have you. This record keeping could be done formerly or informally using  a paper and pen or more technological advanced medium out there. There are many apps out there that could help you to keep record of whatever gambling expenses that you are making and people keep records for several reasons you just have to know why you are keeping such gambling records and do it thoroughly. But it does not mean that you are a bad person if you are not keeping a gambling record now the only means that you have to pay close attention to your gambling.

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October 11, 2023, 09:25:17 PM
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Not particularly.... You seee, ion even support the fact that you keep gambling records because I think that's another inspiration to wager the more... How?? You're gonna be making references to the old tickets for either correction purposes or anything else.. isn't that just another means to rehabilitate the whole process?..
In the sense of being a professional gambler, that alone would give enough reasons to have your records kept.

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October 11, 2023, 09:27:36 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Pretty much, yes. However it depends what you mean by "bad gambler", if you're just doing it for a bit of fun and fully expect to lose a casual amount of money on a regular basis, sometimes with the odd winning streak, then you are probably taking the right approach. The only reason that logging your bets in that situation would help is if you think you might be spending too much or want to figure out how much variance you've got going on over time. Let's face it though, unless you're trying to engage in an actual career like gambling, you should understand that the odds are heavily weighted against you and even sport bookmakers are only interested in your custom if you are losing money over time, they'll eventually limit your account otherwise.

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October 11, 2023, 09:38:19 PM
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Why do we need to keep our records when we all know that the gambling market changes from time to time. What happens today will be a lot different tomorrow so keeping some records will not be essential at all. Gambling is luck based, and you can’t predict when you will be lucky in gambling, so keeping your records about your losses and gains will not be helpful and won’t change the situation. If you want to minimize your losses, manage your gambling habit and always bet on the amount you can afford to lose.

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It depends on the type of record to keep when it comes to gambling discussions like this, what is the benefit of keeping a record that will always bring tears to one's eye if all you had was a perpectual records on losses, there's nothing to encourage one in this than add up to depression because the records aren't enticing to keep, share or see oftentimes, but when we have some outstanding moments with gambling experience, we couldn't wanted to afford loosing these moments with putting them into archive for remembrance, such are good for this purpose and not all we have are disheartening records of losses.
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October 11, 2023, 09:59:31 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

If the gambler's only reason is to have fun through entertainment, there is no reason to do what you are saying. Even for gamblers who think it is a source of income, no, they will not do that for sure. First of all, they have no benefit from being blessed by that. Even if you do, you know that you won't get anything from what you say. When you do that, you will only have hostage records, which you can only calculate, but you won't get any profit from that.

It's not because we are employed in a casino where we will play gambling; we as gamblers only aim for most of us, or we usually think that we hope to be lucky enough to win gambling so that we can have a good income here. That's what most people often think of those of us who like to gamble in online casinos.


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October 11, 2023, 10:02:24 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?
I don't record my gambling winnings or losses because I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's important for me to keep any records because I bet freely. If you gamble for financial gain, you must keep records to know the sum of money you are win and the amount you are losing. but, if you gamble only for enjoyment, you are not required to keep any records.

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
I don’t know if there is any advantage if a gambler is keeping records, I don’t see any advantage, and not having records does not make you a bad gambler. Just always set a limits for yourself when you are gambling, and don’t exceed it.  always have the amount that you will allocate for gambling, don’t exceed your limit, if you can control your gambling behaviour, then everything is fine and you are not a bad gambler.

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October 11, 2023, 10:33:45 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
Are you the damn account keeper of the casino? No? Then I don't think it matters. You don't exactly see the majority of people recording a note for how much time it took to finish a game right? Same idea here. It doesn't matter, in general anyway. If you know someone who does this, it may just be their character to note down their wins/losses, they probably do the same or something similar to other activities really. Besides, in most cases, a rough idea of what you've gained and lost is more than enough imo. That's what most talks about gambling ends up with anyway. I reckon you don't need to describe to them how much you won/lost per game lmao.

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October 11, 2023, 10:39:42 PM
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Yes and no. You don't necessarily have to track every wins, losses, or draws for you to be considered a good gambler. You don't need to track every single dime you spend on your gambling spree. All of these works towards tracking your gambling expenses anyway, so some people just cut the middleman and track how much they are spending and forming a budget around that spend habit with the intention of even lowering it in the future. You don't need to do all these convoluted bs just to be considered a good player or a responsible gambler for that matter. What you would need to do is to actually act upon the discipline that you want to instill upon yourself and only by then will you actually see results.

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October 11, 2023, 11:33:21 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Pretty much, yes. However it depends what you mean by "bad gambler", if you're just doing it for a bit of fun and fully expect to lose a casual amount of money on a regular basis, sometimes with the odd winning streak, then you are probably taking the right approach. The only reason that logging your bets in that situation would help is if you think you might be spending too much or want to figure out how much variance you've got going on over time. Let's face it though, unless you're trying to engage in an actual career like gambling, you should understand that the odds are heavily weighted against you and even sport bookmakers are only interested in your custom if you are losing money over time, they'll eventually limit your account otherwise.
What is it to gain if not having a record of how much we spent in gambling? Other than that, gamblers that practice it will have better control over their gambling expenses. As the record can help them think better while gambling. I've not done that for gambling expenses. But, can remember doing it for other financial platforms. I think the difference is not quite different from not putting down a record of our gambling activities. For economists they can make a thing of those records and make huge profits from savings and calculated gambling moves. I commend gamblers that keep records. It's a good thing, even, just for the record. Reading through the past, facilitates good gambling. When we lose continuously we can see it often and think of a way to fix it. Or look for other casinos or games where the odds are not forced against the player. It can also add to the fun! looking back in time on how much you've spent on gambling and their worth now. Buying power. It's a nice memory. Although, if the journey didn't end well, it could be a sad one. Hence, even with the record, we still need to apply our senses. There is no gain recording losses. The record gets interesting when the win is more than or averaged to the losses. The records can be beneficial or important in legal cases as evidence. The factors that consists a bad gambler doesn't include keeping record or not. It's not a business. Unless, a professional gambler. He can decide to turn gambling into business. Yet most of the Professionals don't have to keep records, they're not used to doing it. And that doesn't stop them from winning.


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October 14, 2023, 11:27:02 PM
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The record is sometimes not bad, but it can make us feel bad considering that in the game it is most likely that we will always be in the red, in negative numbers and this may lower our morale a little, for those who have a very exact control of their finances, for this reason I think that now things must be different, if there is some type of project or something that is in a caisno if it is good to do it, but I would say that from now on, and not from before, because since Before it was not worth it, since what was spent and lost was lost, now things can go differently, because basically you have more experience, at least I agree in a game session if I win I retire and I'm going the next day, without looking for very big profits, this is now what characterizes me, it doesn't matter if the profit is very little, that adds up, and adding up is the best, it is always in favor of improving and not losing For me that is the basis of everything, it is the only way I see that you can be somewhat profitable in a casino.

Now, if we decide to do a registration and as I said before, do it from now on and not from before, because only then is it better to have control, in some way it is good, but like this, because if we start to do registration of what Let us remember, well it will happen that we are going to be bad, because obviously things are going to be very in favor of the losses and if due to some of those things we get hurt and we have to recover or try to recover that money Well, the story can become very sad, and better to play without any kind of pressure or stress, because that is how it works better, if we do it through stress or something like that, it will be but, because we are not going to Consider anything, then no It is advisable, for me the best thing is to do it and be very careful, with my strategy which consists of playing and as Soon as there are profits , stop playing and go the next day, at least I have been getting better.

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October 15, 2023, 10:16:38 AM
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I don't keep a detailed record of such, but I do keep a record of how much money is going out of my wallets every time I gamble or bet on something. It's something that is important more than keeping track of your win/loss IMO. You will be aware of what's happening with your money if you know how much is going towards leisure and 'fun' activities compared to what you really need to live day by day. Not keeping a record of things doesn't make you a bad gambler, it just makes your financial moves bad because you are not making informed decisions by missing a lot of details.

Right. Not keeping records does not make anyone a bad gambler. I think it depends. Personally, I prefer monitoring my transactions regardless of the amount so I can have a clear picture even to my leisure expenses. This helps me to make decisions on how much should I allot to my beeds and wants. But like what I agreed with, not tracking your records does not make you a bad gambler. It's more about being aware of your limits, making responsible decisions, and enjoying your leisure. Keeping records is just one method to stay financially conscious but it's not the only measure of a person's gambling skills or responsible behavior.

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October 15, 2023, 03:12:32 PM
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Right. Not keeping records does not make anyone a bad gambler. I think it depends. Personally, I prefer monitoring my transactions regardless of the amount so I can have a clear picture even to my leisure expenses. This helps me to make decisions on how much should I allot to my beeds and wants. But like what I agreed with, not tracking your records does not make you a bad gambler. It's more about being aware of your limits, making responsible decisions, and enjoying your leisure. Keeping records is just one method to stay financially conscious but it's not the only measure of a person's gambling skills or responsible behavior.
Yes, it will depend on each gambler. Some feel that if they have a record, it will keep them awake enough to stay away from gambling addiction. Some people want to know how much money they use for gambling. It all depends on a person's need to keep notes or just spend the same amount of money from time to time without calculating the total amount. And not having a record doesn't mean he's a bad gambler because maybe that was his decision, and according to him, it was a good move. And perhaps some will consider having a record of their gambling activities important.

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October 15, 2023, 03:15:14 PM
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Why do we need to keep our records when we all know that the gambling market changes from time to time. What happens today will be a lot different tomorrow so keeping some records will not be essential at all. Gambling is luck based, and you can’t predict when you will be lucky in gambling, so keeping your records about your losses and gains will not be helpful and won’t change the situation. If you want to minimize your losses, manage your gambling habit and always bet on the amount you can afford to lose.
What does the gambling market have anything to do with your records? Records are not kept for the future but they are kept just to have an overview of how you have been doing with your gambling activity, how much you've wagered, how much you've lost, and how much you've won so far. Your records will allow you to evaluate your overall performance and allow you to have a general idea about what actions you should take next to prevent you from excessive losses if you've been losing a lot of money.

A gambler doesn't keep a record of their activities because of the market or the gambling trends that might change from time to time, and you only keep your own bets and the outcomes of the bets or maybe just the starting and ending balances of each and every gambling session you have had in a particular month or year.

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October 15, 2023, 03:17:30 PM
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Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

No, as long as you are gambling with the money that doesn't look considerable amount compared to your income. If you are earning 5K per month and you bet $200 only in that particular month then you don't need to worry about tracking the records of winning and losing. Or in general tracking all your expenses will give you good insight about where your money is being spent and it will help you to identify which one you can eliminate if your income is reduced or you want to save more.









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October 15, 2023, 03:39:18 PM
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Yes, it will depend on each gambler. Some feel that if they have a record, it will keep them awake enough to stay away from gambling addiction. Some people want to know how much money they use for gambling. It all depends on a person's need to keep notes or just spend the same amount of money from time to time without calculating the total amount. And not having a record doesn't mean he's a bad gambler because maybe that was his decision, and according to him, it was a good move. And perhaps some will consider having a record of their gambling activities important.
That's right, maybe some of their gambling records are important to know the expenses so that they can limit if there are excesses that we don't think about, maybe some of the records are to see how gambling activities have been, whether they are just curious or really want to record just as a reference.

Makes sense. Myself, I don't think it is necessary because with the limit of money that has been set, it is more than enough so there is no need to look at the records again, it's just that some of them are just curious about the whole gambling. Actually there is nothing worse as long as we manage finances well for gambling.

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October 15, 2023, 03:47:20 PM
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Makes sense. Myself, I don't think it is necessary because with the limit of money that has been set, it is more than enough so there is no need to look at the records again, it's just that some of them are just curious about the whole gambling. Actually there is nothing worse as long as we manage finances well for gambling.
Besides, it's just a waste of time if you record all your expenses, can't we all see gambling statistics? It's not that important in my personal opinion to record things like that, it's true what you said, just limit your budget every time you gamble so it's easier to be consistent, for example, every week you spend $100 on gambling so you don't need to record it anymore because there is a limit that is easy to remember.

I think gambling will not be enjoyable if you add other work such as recording expenses and so on. Maybe there are some people out there who want to do that and have time to calculate it, but not most people want to do that because I don't think it's useful either. too and just waste unnecessary time. The point is to always limit your budget and manage your money well for gambling and living expenses.  Wink

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October 15, 2023, 03:57:35 PM
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Yes, it will depend on each gambler. Some feel that if they have a record, it will keep them awake enough to stay away from gambling addiction. Some people want to know how much money they use for gambling. It all depends on a person's need to keep notes or just spend the same amount of money from time to time without calculating the total amount. And not having a record doesn't mean he's a bad gambler because maybe that was his decision, and according to him, it was a good move. And perhaps some will consider having a record of their gambling activities important.
That's right, maybe some of their gambling records are important to know the expenses so that they can limit if there are excesses that we don't think about, maybe some of the records are to see how gambling activities have been, whether they are just curious or really want to record just as a reference.

Makes sense. Myself, I don't think it is necessary because with the limit of money that has been set, it is more than enough so there is no need to look at the records again, it's just that some of them are just curious about the whole gambling. Actually there is nothing worse as long as we manage finances well for gambling.

It could be useful if the gambler had planned to track down his losses and winnings. It's easy to see whether from the time he had been gambling he profited or lost and then concluded from the record if its worth pushing through this kind of activity anymore.

As for me who had not tracked this since the beginning, I guess I just have to keep doing it until I can make a big win. I feel like I'm losing more though. The only consolation is that I enjoyed the whole process.


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October 16, 2023, 03:12:30 AM
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Right. Not keeping records does not make anyone a bad gambler. I think it depends. Personally, I prefer monitoring my transactions regardless of the amount so I can have a clear picture even to my leisure expenses. This helps me to make decisions on how much should I allot to my beeds and wants. But like what I agreed with, not tracking your records does not make you a bad gambler. It's more about being aware of your limits, making responsible decisions, and enjoying your leisure. Keeping records is just one method to stay financially conscious but it's not the only measure of a person's gambling skills or responsible behavior.
Yes, it will depend on each gambler. Some feel that if they have a record, it will keep them awake enough to stay away from gambling addiction. Some people want to know how much money they use for gambling. It all depends on a person's need to keep notes or just spend the same amount of money from time to time without calculating the total amount. And not having a record doesn't mean he's a bad gambler because maybe that was his decision, and according to him, it was a good move. And perhaps some will consider having a record of their gambling activities important.
actually recording spending activities when gambling is the same as when we look at the transactions we make when gambling, if we look at the transactions while we are playing and have created a limit on a certain amount of spending, of course we will stop because it all depends on our self-control when gambling . Not taking notes doesn't mean that we are bad gamblers because sometimes to record gambling activities we don't have enough time to do so so we just rely on our thoughts and see transaction mutations when playing so that we can create limits ourselves without having write notes.

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October 16, 2023, 11:42:56 AM
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That's right, maybe some of their gambling records are important to know the expenses so that they can limit if there are excesses that we don't think about, maybe some of the records are to see how gambling activities have been, whether they are just curious or really want to record just as a reference.

Makes sense. Myself, I don't think it is necessary because with the limit of money that has been set, it is more than enough so there is no need to look at the records again, it's just that some of them are just curious about the whole gambling. Actually there is nothing worse as long as we manage finances well for gambling.
So it depends on a person's purpose in recording his gambling activities because if he only wants to know how much he lost and won, he can look at the record and try to reduce his losses by reducing the use of money for gambling. Some gamblers use these records to calculate their monthly expenses for gambling. What is certain is that the goals will vary between each gambler.

Yes, I agree with you because the money limit that we have set is enough to limit losses and the use of money. We can also manage our finances well and prevent bigger losses because there are limits we always maintain well.

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actually recording spending activities when gambling is the same as when we look at the transactions we make when gambling, if we look at the transactions while we are playing and have created a limit on a certain amount of spending, of course we will stop because it all depends on our self-control when gambling . Not taking notes doesn't mean that we are bad gamblers because sometimes to record gambling activities we don't have enough time to do so so we just rely on our thoughts and see transaction mutations when playing so that we can create limits ourselves without having write notes.
For that purpose, we can look at the transaction history on our gambling account. We can find out how much money we have deposited and withdrawn to compare which one is bigger. If the deposit amount is greater than the amount of money we withdraw, we may experience losses more often. And if that happens, we really have to reduce the amount of money deposited so that we don't experience even bigger losses.

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October 16, 2023, 11:49:45 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

There is probably no benefit (if we are talking about ordinary gamblers who do not have an addiction) and, on the contrary, there is a feeling of disappointment because sooner or later even small amounts add up to something larger. This is the same senseless and irrational nonsense as calculating how much money I would save if I didn’t drink coffee for a whole year. We must love ourselves, not money, and if we can get little joys for money, then this is good spending.

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October 16, 2023, 12:27:51 PM
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It depends on the type of record to keep when it comes to gambling discussions like this, what is the benefit of keeping a record that will always bring tears to one's eye if all you had was a perpectual records on losses, there's nothing to encourage one in this than add up to depression because the records aren't enticing to keep, share or see oftentimes, but when we have some outstanding moments with gambling experience, we couldn't wanted to afford loosing these moments with putting them into archive for remembrance, such are good for this purpose and not all we have are disheartening records of losses.
In my own opinion, keeping record of gambling activities in both winnings and losses is very essential for every gambler in other to regulate his their gambling activities.
There are some set of people who has never been lucky enough to win in gambling despite spending huge to win and keeping records will help them know that gambling isn't favourable to them which might make them to quit gambling instead of betting more and still losing more money.

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October 21, 2023, 12:25:58 AM
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It depends on the type of record to keep when it comes to gambling discussions like this, what is the benefit of keeping a record that will always bring tears to one's eye if all you had was a perpectual records on losses, there's nothing to encourage one in this than add up to depression because the records aren't enticing to keep, share or see oftentimes, but when we have some outstanding moments with gambling experience, we couldn't wanted to afford loosing these moments with putting them into archive for remembrance, such are good for this purpose and not all we have are disheartening records of losses.
In my own opinion, keeping record of gambling activities in both winnings and losses is very essential for every gambler in other to regulate his their gambling activities.
There are some set of people who has never been lucky enough to win in gambling despite spending huge to win and keeping records will help them know that gambling isn't favourable to them which might make them to quit gambling instead of betting more and still losing more money.
Yes, it may be that when things are kept in a record you can have better control, it is not bad, it is something that may sound very logical that will turn out well, but as I have said before, when you do not have control over your actions in games, In casino bets, they are slot machines, dice games, and others like rules, because sometimes the numbers are not going to be in green, they usually and can be in red and that is a very bad thing, because when we are doing something else type of game we can think that the events will turn out well, but when we start to see how we are in another aspect it can happen that those old records can lower the morale of the person, because they can be large figures of lost money and clearly in the brain it will say something, like you have to be able to recover what has been lost, then that will become a constant pressure, sometimes it can be good or bad just because of that condition, of course it is only better, because there is control of what comes out and it will return. , but that's the only thing that can happen,

When at these heights we, as guides, need to have a specific order to do things well, because we can realize that when we are in a casino we know what we will spend, we know that we will have many things to do, including winning, losing, Whatever the result, we must find a strategy where our balance is not so negative, but rather try to keep it in the green, or positive, it is difficult, but I know that it is possible, and one of the things is not to bet on impulse. , that when we get more money, then having them there, don't risk them, go the next day, start settling for a session and if we come out victorious, then take advantage of them and stay there without any kind of prejudice, that's all we have to see, without However, when we are in the middle of the game, sometimes it is difficult, because the impulse, sometimes the same greed acts to win more and that can harm us much More.

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October 21, 2023, 01:15:28 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?
In the past I do keeping records to know my financial expenses , but overtime since I know how limit my self? I stopped tracking my gambling money but I made sure that my budget will be keep and yes that is the amount I keep spending.
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Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.
actually this shows how responsible the person is and how that person knows how to balance and limit his fundings that is why he said this is a best practice.
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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
nope this will never make you a Bad gambler but when you turn to be addicted , then that is completely the bad gambler.

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October 21, 2023, 02:03:07 AM
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Why do we need to keep our records when we all know that the gambling market changes from time to time. What happens today will be a lot different tomorrow so keeping some records will not be essential at all. Gambling is luck based, and you can’t predict when you will be lucky in gambling, so keeping your records about your losses and gains will not be helpful and won’t change the situation. If you want to minimize your losses, manage your gambling habit and always bet on the amount you can afford to lose.

I disagree with this; I do gambling and also keep records of wins and losses. Why? To monitor my money, whether I earn or lose more money, for example, if I allocate a certain amount of money as my capital, I have a spreadsheet where I place where I place a bet or play, how much I spend, and then record if it has been gained or not. From there, I can keep track of where my money goes. Documenting your expenses is a good idea because it could give you a reminder of where and what you've been spending, where you play, etc. Yes, gambling is a lot more about luck, but keeping records of your activity in gambling doesn't do anything with what you're saying; it is completely different. And keeping a record is not bad; it only shows that you are responsible for your money, so keep on doing what you're doing.

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October 21, 2023, 02:29:02 AM
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It depends on the type of record to keep when it comes to gambling discussions like this, what is the benefit of keeping a record that will always bring tears to one's eye if all you had was a perpectual records on losses, there's nothing to encourage one in this than add up to depression because the records aren't enticing to keep, share or see oftentimes, but when we have some outstanding moments with gambling experience, we couldn't wanted to afford loosing these moments with putting them into archive for remembrance, such are good for this purpose and not all we have are disheartening records of losses.
In my own opinion, keeping record of gambling activities in both winnings and losses is very essential for every gambler in other to regulate his their gambling activities.
In fact, recording gambling wins or losses will have no effect in regulating gambling activities because regulating gambling activities is only based on how we have control and limits.
But some people may record losses or wins just to be able to use it as benchmark for stopping because there are also many gamblers who have certain loss limit to be able to determine the right time to stop gambling.

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There are some set of people who has never been lucky enough to win in gambling despite spending huge to win and keeping records will help them know that gambling isn't favourable to them which might make them to quit gambling instead of betting more and still losing more money.
Yes and gambling will never be profitable for anyone except business people and casino managers.
If you are only looking for profit it is better to leave casinos and gambling and work or do business so you can make definite and guaranteed profits.
Moreover, when recording all gambling activities from start to finish I am sure that 80% of the records show the loss numbers and the remaining 20% are the winning numbers that the gambler has.
However when they found out about all this I sure they regretted it little but the next day they returned to deposit the money.

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October 21, 2023, 05:48:10 AM
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I don't keep records as well because it doesn't make sense for me. Whatever is spent on gambling for me, should be forgotten forever. We're not bad gamblers, and that doesn't mean we're not responsible as well.

What being responsible is you don't compromise other things that you need to provide for yourself and your family as well.

If you're the guy that keeps record, that's okay and it means that you just want to track your expenditures and you're organized.

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October 21, 2023, 12:12:56 PM
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I disagree with this; I do gambling and also keep records of wins and losses. Why? To monitor my money, whether I earn or lose more money, for example, if I allocate a certain amount of money as my capital, I have a spreadsheet where I place where I place a bet or play, how much I spend, and then record if it has been gained or not. From there, I can keep track of where my money goes. Documenting your expenses is a good idea because it could give you a reminder of where and what you've been spending, where you play, etc. Yes, gambling is a lot more about luck, but keeping records of your activity in gambling doesn't do anything with what you're saying; it is completely different. And keeping a record is not bad; it only shows that you are responsible for your money, so keep on doing what you're doing.
Each gambler has his way of monitoring the use of his money. Maybe some gamblers don't record their winnings and losses in gambling because they think this is just gambling for fun so they don't need to record their gambling activities. After all, they have their limits in gambling and will not violate them for any reason. But if you feel that having a record would be good for you so you can monitor your financial position, especially your budget for gambling, you can continue with it to know how much money you use for gambling. So having a record depends on each gambler.

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October 21, 2023, 12:37:36 PM
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I don't keep records as well because it doesn't make sense for me. Whatever is spent on gambling for me, should be forgotten forever. We're not bad gamblers, and that doesn't mean we're not responsible as well.
Keeping records could make me think if I were a bad person. I will see how much money I've spent for gambling, after few years I realize if such money could be used to buy motorcycle, car etc. While not keeping records will make me think it's okay to lose $100/month because I've make more than that.

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October 21, 2023, 01:06:21 PM
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I disagree with this; I do gambling and also keep records of wins and losses. Why? To monitor my money, whether I earn or lose more money, for example, if I allocate a certain amount of money as my capital, I have a spreadsheet where I place where I place a bet or play, how much I spend, and then record if it has been gained or not. From there, I can keep track of where my money goes. Documenting your expenses is a good idea because it could give you a reminder of where and what you've been spending, where you play, etc. Yes, gambling is a lot more about luck, but keeping records of your activity in gambling doesn't do anything with what you're saying; it is completely different. And keeping a record is not bad; it only shows that you are responsible for your money, so keep on doing what you're doing.
Each gambler has his way of monitoring the use of his money. Maybe some gamblers don't record their winnings and losses in gambling because they think this is just gambling for fun so they don't need to record their gambling activities. After all, they have their limits in gambling and will not violate them for any reason. But if you feel that having a record would be good for you so you can monitor your financial position, especially your budget for gambling, you can continue with it to know how much money you use for gambling. So having a record depends on each gambler.
Those who can record their gambling expenses, I think they will be able to control themselves when gambling, of course this will allow them to know when they can continue their game and when they have to stop, but this is very difficult to do, most of those who gamble will continue playing if they still have money in their hands.

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October 21, 2023, 01:23:49 PM
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I don't keep records as well because it doesn't make sense for me. Whatever is spent on gambling for me, should be forgotten forever. We're not bad gamblers, and that doesn't mean we're not responsible as well.
Keeping records could make me think if I were a bad person. I will see how much money I've spent for gambling, after few years I realize if such money could be used to buy motorcycle, car etc. While not keeping records will make me think it's okay to lose $100/month because I've make more than that.
The thing that makes it even more painful is when gambling using bitcoin or other crypto which currently has a high price, if we flashback to a few years ago where the price of bitcoin and other crypto such as Doge was cheap when looking at the current price it might make your chest hurt. I felt suffocated from looking at those notes, and besides, it wasn't a good idea to write them down.

Even if you gamble using fiat money, you may still need to record it because this can cause regret, which in the end makes us continue to gamble until we try to make the money we lose from losing return quickly in full. so that in the end it makes us become addicted without realizing it and go beyond the limits of gambling too deeply. Just face the reality, after all gambling, we have to understand that gambling has a risk of losing, so the money you have lost doesn't need to be recorded, forget it and enjoy the game.  Grin

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October 21, 2023, 01:35:46 PM
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Keeping records of your gambling history is not that bad if you prefer that way but some really don't care about records. I personally didn't care about it as well. Unless curiousity strikes me and did something like a trial and error or an experiment in a specific game like the lottery. If you are just having fun with gambling as your past time I don't think there is a need to keep some of your records.



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October 21, 2023, 01:42:50 PM
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Why do we need to keep our records when we all know that the gambling market changes from time to time. What happens today will be a lot different tomorrow so keeping some records will not be essential at all. Gambling is luck based, and you can’t predict when you will be lucky in gambling, so keeping your records about your losses and gains will not be helpful and won’t change the situation. If you want to minimize your losses, manage your gambling habit and always bet on the amount you can afford to lose.

I disagree with this; I do gambling and also keep records of wins and losses. Why? To monitor my money, whether I earn or lose more money, for example, if I allocate a certain amount of money as my capital, I have a spreadsheet where I place where I place a bet or play, how much I spend, and then record if it has been gained or not. From there, I can keep track of where my money goes. Documenting your expenses is a good idea because it could give you a reminder of where and what you've been spending, where you play, etc. Yes, gambling is a lot more about luck, but keeping records of your activity in gambling doesn't do anything with what you're saying; it is completely different. And keeping a record is not bad; it only shows that you are responsible for your money, so keep on doing what you're doing.

In that matter, it's your choice too; if it helps you, go ahead and do it, and nothing will stop you. Maybe you do that because you are a regular gambler; you can be at the casino every day to play gambling online, or three times a week.

Because if people like me only gamble twice a month, I don't need to do that. So I don't think that gambling is my source of income; it's just for fun and entertainment. But unfairness aside, I just saw such a gambler, and I don't see anything bad or wrong in that either.


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October 21, 2023, 01:57:36 PM
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i also did not record my gambling transactions, did it make me a bad gambler? in my opinion not really, because the good and bad of a gambler is not judged by whether he records his gambling transactions or not but rather to his behavior, emotions, and the way he is to manage money. as long as a gambler has these things, i think he has become a good gambler who is able to manage his money and psychology.

but it is true that by saving recordings from your gambling can show how the performance of your gambling and how much money you have spent and there is no harm in also recording your gambling activities.

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Keeping records of your gambling history is not that bad if you prefer that way but some really don't care about records. I personally didn't care about it as well. Unless curiousity strikes me and did something like a trial and error or an experiment in a specific game like the lottery. If you are just having fun with gambling as your past time I don't think there is a need to keep some of your records.

I totally agree! Keeping records in gambling is a personal choice. I'm more of a go-with-the-flow person myself.  For me it's all about having a good time, not worrying about taking notes or whatever and  if you get curious and want to try tracking stuff just as an experiment, cool.  But at the end of the day, gambling is our hobby and I just wanna enjoy it without making it into a chore with a bunch of record-keeping.

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Those who can record their gambling expenses, I think they will be able to control themselves when gambling, of course this will allow them to know when they can continue their game and when they have to stop, but this is very difficult to do, most of those who gamble will continue playing if they still have money in their hands.
They should be able to control themselves more when gambling. However, it depends on how they exercise self-control while gambling because some people still lose self-control even though they already have a gambling record. This tempts them because gambling can make them come back more often and maybe later, they will usually not record their gambling expenses and income. And it will only make them a gambling addict if they cannot stay within their limits. But whatever it is, if they are willing to record their income and expenses in gambling, it can help them to track how much they spend on gambling.

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October 22, 2023, 05:05:27 AM
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Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.
Take it from me wholeheartedly man this is no good practice in any rational ways, you just ne piling up your trouble and miseries when hard times hit you. When I say hard times I mean moment we are lacking on cash and we start reflecting on those records on how much we have wasted to gambling and stupid you were just so willing to have spend so much amount put together on gambling with nothing good to show off.
  Those records can only bring regrets and that's the damn truth about that. Like what's the point of keeping records for money I won't be given back at the end? You might wanna argue that it helps you in keeping track of your performance but that's not true, you don't control your chances of winning in gambling so what are you keeping track for about something out of your control when you can't change the outcome yourself? It's of no essence.
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Having records on gambling helps in maintaining our expenses and understand whether we're on profit/loss. Based on which we can consider taking a break or continue to gamble. Personally I used to have some mind calculation on my spending, but this won't be effective most of the time and we end up spending much. When we maintain records, this can be made effective and spending beyond the allocated limit can be avoided. Gambling is all about the choice, and we're moving forward with the hope of winning. This winning hope won't be successful for everyone, when we see the records we can understand better whether to be hopeful or rely on luck and limit our spending.

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Keeping past history of wins or losses are virtually not much worthy  when it comes to gambling. But when a gambler keeps a statistics of his wins and losses, he will certainly get a better idea of the results of his gambling. This concept will enable the gambler to control himself. He will also be able to get information about where he went wrong. A good idea of his bankroll will also be gained so that a gambler can come back from uncontrolled gambling. Although some people think that all gambling sites have a history, I would say that it works better if it is saved manually.

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Having records on gambling helps in maintaining our expenses and understand whether we're on profit/loss. Based on which we can consider taking a break or continue to gamble. Personally I used to have some mind calculation on my spending, but this won't be effective most of the time and we end up spending much. When we maintain records, this can be made effective and spending beyond the allocated limit can be avoided. Gambling is all about the choice, and we're moving forward with the hope of winning. This winning hope won't be successful for everyone, when we see the records we can understand better whether to be hopeful or rely on luck and limit our spending.

It looks like you have good management in gambling. I never thought about recording my gambling activities. I only pay attention to my financial condition. If I had more money then I would gamble, if not then there is no reason to gamble

Do you have financial records from two different gambling sites? I'm curious if there are any significant differences between one site and another. So I want to try to record gambling activity and find out which sites provide better winnings than other sites

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Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

It does not, keeping records is good but it can be used to measure you are bad or good gamblers. You will be still be a bad gambler even if you keep a record or take a note but you cant manage your money wisely. On the opposite side, you are a good gambler if you can control your gambling activity wisely although you do not keep a record of the money you spent in gambling.
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but it is true that by saving recordings from your gambling can show how the performance of your gambling and how much money you have spent and there is no harm in also recording your gambling activities.
During that time he has plenty of time to record his gambling history, there are no problems, let alone recording his expenses, but keep in mind that as long as he can control his emotions and control himself in gambling, it won't be a problem, sometimes there are people who record all the history and finances he has spent. during gambling so that it becomes his obsession to chase losses and that is not justified.

I don't think anyone who experiences defeat needs to record it if they still don't control themselves because it will interfere with their concentration when gambling, let alone make them depressed because the large amount of money lost during gambling in the record is clearly not very good for the mental and mind, that's why most people don't need to. not because it is not important, but they gamble and enjoy it, not to chase their losses.

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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Maybe not for you, but for some people it is useful.There are various reasons and scenarios for us to gamble at online casinos, whether it's methods, tricks, variables and all kinds of things. everything is functioned or used, it can also be intended, according to the concepts and ideas they think or plan. It doesn't matter if you don't record your gambling statistics, whether it's wins or losses. as long as no one objects to it, and you are happy with the gambling you do even without taking notes. Please, there's no problem with all that.
Likewise with me, I have never even thought about calculating percentages through statistics or notes that we make from the gambling we do. everything I do is solely for the sake of entertainment. nothing more, although sometimes there is drama that occurs when we have a gambling session. for example, when we lose control and bet too much, or, we get too into playing so that the winnings that were initially accumulated, ultimately end in defeat. There are many colors in everyone's gambling, including you, me, and all of us.

Referring to this thread's question, I'll quote it, "is there any benefit when one keeps a record on their losses and wins". maybe not for you, and neither does it for me. but for people who use this method, they definitely find it useful. that's why, some gamblers do it. the reasons, will be very diverse and varied, not necessarily the same for every gambler. and for sure, there is nothing wrong with what they do. In short, from several comments I read regarding people who record their gambling, whether they win or lose. the simple reason is, so they know how much they have spent, and how much they have earned. with the final scenario, they limit the budget if their limit has reached the limit.
ideally, this idea is good and I like it. unfortunately, I can't do it. might be the simple answer, because I never do that. and one more thing, it won't make you bad even if you don't do it. Most importantly, you also have certain limits in the gambling you do.

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October 22, 2023, 08:11:14 AM
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If you want to quit gambling slowly just start keeping records, do you know why all the gambling responsible strategies works?/its because we don't keep records, apart from using what you can afford to lose every time you gamble, the day you do back and check your record is when you will start quitting slowly.

Even if you are using a $10 for gambling, you will still not feel good after looking into your record, you will always remember that gambling is not for you lol, your losses might be bigger than your wins, this is the harsh truth for all gamblers.

It's part of the rules to never chase your losses, isn't it? Keeping record could make you want to, it can turn to the reason for you to start chasing your losses if you are not strong, this is why I don't think that keeping records is good. Every penny we spend on gambling is still money, if that is invested into Bitcoin it will turn to something someday.

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October 22, 2023, 08:25:21 AM
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If you want to quit gambling slowly just start keeping records, do you know why all the gambling responsible strategies works?/its because we don't keep records, apart from using what you can afford to lose every time you gamble, the day you do back and check your record is when you will start quitting slowly.

Even if you are using a $10 for gambling, you will still not feel good after looking into your record, you will always remember that gambling is not for you lol, your losses might be bigger than your wins, this is the harsh truth for all gamblers.

It's part of the rules to never chase your losses, isn't it? Keeping record could make you want to, it can turn to the reason for you to start chasing your losses if you are not strong, this is why I don't think that keeping records is good. Every penny we spend on gambling is still money, if that is invested into Bitcoin it will turn to something someday.
This is basically why no one should keep their record when gambling as most of us know that losing are much common than winning as it can tends to chasing loses than just gambling. We just needs to remember that each gambling session is different from previous sessions to avoid chasing loses. But still, it varies to every gamblers especially those who are already addicted to gambling to make them realize how much they've lost and how much it already affected their financial standing.

But yeah, keeping you gambling record will provide a result either stopping or getting more addicted to gambling.

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October 22, 2023, 09:03:45 AM
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I mostly play on one platform at a time, so I do not keep track of deposits, withdrawals, wins, losses, etc. The casino website itself keep these records for me.
If I want to check the amount I deposited, I simply check the transaction history provided by the casino.
Notable wins, like those with a 10x, 50x or 100x multiplier, are usually automatically recorded in memory, so I don't find it necessary to keep a separate spreadsheet or physical record .

But it's important to keep track of my deposits because it helps me make informed decisions about how much money I should allocate to gambling.
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October 22, 2023, 04:51:15 PM
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One danger of keeping records would be chasing losses, when you consistently keep track record of your deposits and losses on the casino sites, you would want to build up a strategy for recovery and this may make impatient and uncalculated gambling set it which is actually an irresponsible way of gambling, this can even lead to more losses on the gamblers side at the end of the day.

It's important to jus make a budget of how much you are willing to spend on gambling monthly so it helps you reduce how much you spend on gambling such that even if you lose, you know it's on your budget ad you may most likely not get really emotional about it as it can be bearable going by your budgeting, but whenever you start keeping record of your losses what follows next is the need to want to recover and the drive to gamble more so you can recover, this can sometimes get out of control and you creep into addiction unknowingly to you.

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October 22, 2023, 04:56:47 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
If you are playing a game in which your luck is the only thing that matters then I do not think it is important to keep records at all, so as long as you keep track of the amount of money you have spent that is fine, but this has nothing to do with gambling and should just be part of your regular activities when making a budget, however if you are playing a game of skill then it is important to keep track of your wins and losses, because this is the only way you can evaluate your performance and make adjustments based on it.

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October 22, 2023, 04:58:03 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

The gambling site where you gamble contains all your history of the games played and your wins and losses too are recorded there. So I don't think that we need to keep track of all our wins and losses separately. Also since we play many games, it is not possible to keep a trace of each game and write it down as we win or lose it.

Personally, I will keep track of my money being deposited in the gambling site and the money which I withdraw from the gambling site. The difference between the two can determine if I am in an overall winning position or at the losing end.

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October 22, 2023, 06:20:32 PM
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I don't keep records as well because it doesn't make sense for me. Whatever is spent on gambling for me, should be forgotten forever. We're not bad gamblers, and that doesn't mean we're not responsible as well.
Keeping records could make me think if I were a bad person. I will see how much money I've spent for gambling, after few years I realize if such money could be used to buy motorcycle, car etc. While not keeping records will make me think it's okay to lose $100/month because I've make more than that.
I know that feeling, it's the regret when you see those records on how much was spent on gambling and you should have spent it somewhere else that you can see that tangible thing like those that you've mentioned.

There's really the difference about keeping records and the perspective that you've got in your mind. If it's okay for you to keep records, that's fine because that makes you feel satisfied and able to track your gains and losses.

But if you think that it's making you a bad person for thinking how much you've spent and lost then you better do what you think is right for you. Because it is you that's experiencing that and not other people.

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October 22, 2023, 06:32:49 PM
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I believe that not keeping records does make you a bad gambler, but not necessarily at gambling, but at recording your gains and losses for tax recording purposes. That could land you in some hot water with the law and I can assure you that they would consider you a bad gambler for not having the necessary information they need to verify your taxes.

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October 22, 2023, 09:42:44 PM
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I believe that not keeping records does make you a bad gambler, but not necessarily at gambling, but at recording your gains and losses for tax recording purposes. That could land you in some hot water with the law and I can assure you that they would consider you a bad gambler for not having the necessary information they need to verify your taxes.
Once you declare this for sure the government will look for other details and they will ask for other documents that supports your claim, better to think again if you are going to declare your gambling activities. Not recording your activities doesn’t make you a bad person though and in my country there is no need for this not unless you really want to monitor everything then you can have it, just have your own format to easily understand it.

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 #130

Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

It doesn’t make you the bad gambler,but it will not allow you to make the good way of spending money in gambling.Not only in spending money on gambling,it’s better keep the record of all the spending per weekly or monthly basis to calculate the weekly or monthly expenses.If you maintain the record of the losses in the gambling,one day you may win the big amount in the gambling.So you can calculate the exact win or loss at the time of the big win in the gambling.The gambler should keep the entire record of the loss,So it will trigger you to make the big win by targeting your loss in the following gambling game in future.
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October 23, 2023, 02:08:47 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

The whole industry of gambling thrives on this. A gambler will lose a few times and win a few times. They will usually lose more money than they win, but when they win they will talk about it with everyone. When they lose, they will keep it to themselves.

That is basically what the casinos want, free advertisement for them, and basically selling this view that you could earn a lot of money, when in reality only the casinos will make the big bucks and most gamblers will lose it all.

So, yeah, the most common thing to do for a gambler is to forget their losses and only share their wins. It doesn't make them a bad gambler, they are just a normal gambler.

The only thing that will happen is that the gambler might have the wrong impression, and they might think they have won more than what they really have because they are ignoring losses.

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October 23, 2023, 03:05:09 AM
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I never keep any records regarding gambling activities, the money I have spent is no longer mine and I am very aware of this when I start playing. The winning factor is luck, I will use the money to play in the future and buy the things I need. Keeping track of how much money has been spent and how much money has been won is very uncomfortable for me, any money I use to gamble is ready to be lost and the winnings are just a bonus that the casino gives me.

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October 23, 2023, 04:25:57 AM
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I never keep any records regarding gambling activities, the money I have spent is no longer mine and I am very aware of this when I start playing. The winning factor is luck, I will use the money to play in the future and buy the things I need. Keeping track of how much money has been spent and how much money has been won is very uncomfortable for me, any money I use to gamble is ready to be lost and the winnings are just a bonus that the casino gives me.
It could make us frustrated when we see the note. With a clear difference between the wins and losses we get, we can become sad and there may be a desire to try to recover the losses.

And it is true that winning is based on luck. If we are unlucky, we obviously will not be able to win, which means we will experience losses. And if we record it in that note, we will see that we have lost a lot.

But wise gamblers will try to reduce the number of losses. They don't want to experience more losses so they will continue limiting their money use.

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October 23, 2023, 04:52:17 AM
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I think it will not make you bad gambler indeed. But keeping records is never a bad idea. You can always statistically measure your winning rate, winning odds and amounts so it can help your future bets. Obviously statistics are never the best thing ever in gambling as standards always differ from match to match or individual to individual. But it can at least help with your losses, your gambling habits may change accordingly so you would bet less money after certain threshold because its into "losing range".
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October 23, 2023, 06:18:01 AM
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If you want to quit gambling slowly just start keeping records, do you know why all the gambling responsible strategies works?/its because we don't keep records, apart from using what you can afford to lose every time you gamble, the day you do back and check your record is when you will start quitting slowly.

Even if you are using a $10 for gambling, you will still not feel good after looking into your record, you will always remember that gambling is not for you lol, your losses might be bigger than your wins, this is the harsh truth for all gamblers.

It's part of the rules to never chase your losses, isn't it? Keeping record could make you want to, it can turn to the reason for you to start chasing your losses if you are not strong, this is why I don't think that keeping records is good. Every penny we spend on gambling is still money, if that is invested into Bitcoin it will turn to something someday.


       -  I agree with what you said, mate. Then we also know that it has never happened that we always win; we play gambling often;
rather, we rarely win often every time we gamble, right?

In addition to that, I also think that there is no need to make a record if every time you play gambling, you are always limited to playing gambling for only 10 dollars. It is easy to calculate that if you regularly play 2 or 3 times a week, you gamble. This is just an example I am talking about.

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October 23, 2023, 06:26:51 AM
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I never keep any records regarding gambling activities, the money I have spent is no longer mine and I am very aware of this when I start playing. The winning factor is luck, I will use the money to play in the future and buy the things I need. Keeping track of how much money has been spent and how much money has been won is very uncomfortable for me, any money I use to gamble is ready to be lost and the winnings are just a bonus that the casino gives me.

Yes, what you are doing is correct, there is no need to record it, because recording all the history of the money that has been spent on gambling will not help anything and make everything look worse, that's why it is better to gamble using money that is ready to be lost, not gambling using money that is used for living necessities so felt very regretful about it later after experiencing defeat and losing money, OP said it looked much worse because he didn't record it even though it wasn't at all.

Gamblers must know when to gamble and when to stop gambling so they can control their money in the right way, just focus on limiting the budget because that is much more important to prevent becoming addicted, because people tend to experience defeat and frustration. by gambling without limits it will easily become an addiction, so there is no need to record it because it is not very important and will only waste time.  Wink

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October 23, 2023, 07:44:31 PM
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Personally, I will keep track of my money being deposited in the gambling site and the money which I withdraw from the gambling site. The difference between the two can determine if I am in an overall winning position or at the losing end.
Getting your records of winning or losing from the gambling site does not make it look so serious to take any action about your gambling habit because anytime you visit the site you you will either booked bet or you check your bet whether winning or losing. I think write it down yourself when make you take fast decision.
I don't see keeping record has bad idea, this will help in managing your finance during gambling, taking record will also control you and whether you should continue or quite. To my own understanding keeping record is good, it minimise your risk in time of losing everything.

I never keep any records regarding gambling activities, the money I have spent is no longer mine and I am very aware of this when I start playing. The winning factor is luck, I will use the money to play in the future and buy the things I need. Keeping track of how much money has been spent and how much money has been won is very uncomfortable for me, any money I use to gamble is ready to be lost and the winnings are just a bonus that the casino gives me.
Everyone has their own opinion on either to keep the record or live it, we always find money to spend it, also any money we lose is also spent but we always lose money to get something back to replace that money. I understand you by saying taking record of what you spend make you uncomfortable, gambling is very dangerous it have many way of attracting gamblers the issue of taking records or not is to guide us when we gamble, the issue of not taking records affected my friend anytime he went out to gamble he always collect money from me because am the one keeping is money, so he will collect and gamble with it so any time he win he always bring back the money he collected and flex the gain he make and when he losses the money, it is out from the savings, later he came for the money I said no money it has finished then since then he said I should be taking record of every piny he collected.


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October 23, 2023, 08:49:58 PM
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I think it will not make you bad gambler indeed. But keeping records is never a bad idea. You can always statistically measure your winning rate, winning odds and amounts so it can help your future bets. Obviously statistics are never the best thing ever in gambling as standards always differ from match to match or individual to individual. But it can at least help with your losses, your gambling habits may change accordingly so you would bet less money after certain threshold because its into "losing range".

I think you are right, keeping records helps to measure between your win and your loses as these will aid you to know if you're making a headway or not and it is also going to guide you on gambling because in an instance where you find out that your losses are higher than you winning it will now help you to take a decision either to continue despite your numerous loses or quit gambling.

   In a case of so much lose tickets it will also help you to start losing interest gradually and not to be too forward on gambling as it will help you not to become addicted since you ain't making meaningful benefits from it

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October 23, 2023, 08:56:25 PM
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Personally, I will keep track of my money being deposited in the gambling site and the money which I withdraw from the gambling site. The difference between the two can determine if I am in an overall winning position or at the losing end.
Getting your records of winning or losing from the gambling site does not make it look so serious to take any action about your gambling habit because anytime you visit the site you you will either booked bet or you check your bet whether winning or losing. I think write it down yourself when make you take fast decision.
I don't see keeping record has bad idea, this will help in managing your finance during gambling, taking record will also control you and whether you should continue or quite. To my own understanding keeping record is good, it minimise your risk in time of losing everything.

I never keep any records regarding gambling activities, the money I have spent is no longer mine and I am very aware of this when I start playing. The winning factor is luck, I will use the money to play in the future and buy the things I need. Keeping track of how much money has been spent and how much money has been won is very uncomfortable for me, any money I use to gamble is ready to be lost and the winnings are just a bonus that the casino gives me.
Everyone has their own opinion on either to keep the record or live it, we always find money to spend it, also any money we lose is also spent but we always lose money to get something back to replace that money. I understand you by saying taking record of what you spend make you uncomfortable, gambling is very dangerous it have many way of attracting gamblers the issue of taking records or not is to guide us when we gamble, the issue of not taking records affected my friend anytime he went out to gamble he always collect money from me because am the one keeping is money, so he will collect and gamble with it so any time he win he always bring back the money he collected and flex the gain he make and when he losses the money, it is out from the savings, later he came for the money I said no money it has finished then since then he said I should be taking record of every piny he collected.


Yes, its true on which it would really be that according in someones preference on which there would really be those people who do really likes on tracking up everything even if we do say that gambling is really just that for leisure and spending up on the money which you had put or deposited isnt something that needs to be tracked since its really just that your extra but there are ones who are really that mindful about tracing it up and sees whether they are already that spending that much money or not with gambling. In my case, then im not really making some tally or trying to keep records because not only just that i dont really care on the amount spend,
it is really just that i dont like on what are the numbers that been showing and on the  time that you are seeing that significant amount then this is where it might be disrupting your mind and emotion on which it would really be causing some future problem towards yourself on the time that you do really get that impulsive.

Not keeping records doesnt really make you a bad gambler, bad thing would really be only on the time that people would really be having that out of control behavior towards their gambling activity.
This is why it is really that important that you should really be having that control and discipline towards your spending if you dont really like on making yourself that being too mindful
about your spending since you have already allocated a fund which it is really just that supposed to be used on gambling thing.

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October 23, 2023, 09:03:44 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Depending on where you are gambling its good to keep records for tax purposes.  In terms of tracking for the sake of seeing your wins and losses it's also a good practice to see where you are losing all your money.  There might be a sport you continually lose or win but don't realize it because you don't track.  If you don't gamble all that much it might not be worth it.

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October 24, 2023, 10:42:46 AM
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Not keeping records doesn't necessarily mean that you are a bad gambler. Sometimes players are too busy to have one and just mentally note their winnings and losses as well as the money they have spend in gambling in totality. Although for sure there are still people who are keeping tracks of their gambling habits which is good for them especially if it works significantly better on their end. But it doesn't mean you should do too. It still depends on you after all.

But a piece of advice, if you don't want or you can't seem to keep records because of extra work it will give to you, just make sure you allocate a specific amount that won't break your budget and your priorities in life. Only allocating your spare and not going overboard your budget will be as good as keeping records because that means you are only spending what you can afford to lose without regretting so much in the end if it doesn't go well.
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October 24, 2023, 11:00:12 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?
In the past I do keeping records to know my financial expenses , but overtime since I know how limit my self? I stopped tracking my gambling money but I made sure that my budget will be keep and yes that is the amount I keep spending.
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Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.
actually this shows how responsible the person is and how that person knows how to balance and limit his fundings that is why he said this is a best practice.
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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
nope this will never make you a Bad gambler but when you turn to be addicted , then that is completely the bad gambler.

This makes sense. It wont hurt if a gambler try to start kerping their records, right? It's not a big deal, really. Give it a shot for a month or even longer and then decide if it's worth continuing. I did it with my transactions and it actually helped me stay organized. But hey if you believe you've got your limits under control and don't need it, that's totally fine. Keeping records doesn't define whether you're a good or bad gambler. For irresponsible gamblers, not keeping track can lead to problems. So, it's just a simple tool to help you stay on top of things so you can know yourself better on how you manage. No pressure, just a suggestion to make things a bit smoother for you Smiley

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October 24, 2023, 11:20:12 AM
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Not keeping records doesn't necessarily mean that you are a bad gambler. Sometimes players are too busy to have one and just mentally note their winnings and losses as well as the money they have spend in gambling in totality. Although for sure there are still people who are keeping tracks of their gambling habits which is good for them especially if it works significantly better on their end. But it doesn't mean you should do too. It still depends on you after all.
I'd never done it actually and I don't think it helps us to be good gamblers or turn into bad gamblers as well. The more I saw my gambling records, the more possible I was disappointed. I'd rather not do it for the sake that I don't remember in the past days.
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But a piece of advice, if you don't want or you can't seem to keep records because of extra work it will give to you, just make sure you allocate a specific amount that won't break your budget and your priorities in life. Only allocating your spare and not going overboard your budget will be as good as keeping records because that means you are only spending what you can afford to lose without regretting so much in the end if it doesn't go well.
Good advice mate...it is very important we know how to budget not just our money but also our time because the more we spend time on this, the more we spend money which could possibly be out of our budget.
Well, the question is are we just playing to entertain ourselves or just to make money? Because if we aim for the fist option, then I don't think it is necessary to have a records.

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October 24, 2023, 11:30:45 AM
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I don't think you can be called a bad gambler if you don't record your losses and wins here.
If it's just entertainment for you, you don't need to record it. I also don't record my gambling losses and wins because for me I don't need to record them because I'm not good at gambling either and I can only see the money I lose growing. If you enjoy it and control yourself when it comes to gambling, I don't think there is a problem. I think that's only for serious gamblers and professionals who keep track of their winnings and losses so they know if what they've been doing lately is good.

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October 24, 2023, 11:44:47 AM
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Not keeping records doesn't necessarily mean that you are a bad gambler. Sometimes players are too busy to have one and just mentally note their winnings and losses as well as the money they have spend in gambling in totality. Although for sure there are still people who are keeping tracks of their gambling habits which is good for them especially if it works significantly better on their end. But it doesn't mean you should do too. It still depends on you after all.

But a piece of advice, if you don't want or you can't seem to keep records because of extra work it will give to you, just make sure you allocate a specific amount that won't break your budget and your priorities in life. Only allocating your spare and not going overboard your budget will be as good as keeping records because that means you are only spending what you can afford to lose without regretting so much in the end if it doesn't go well.

Allocating specific amounts and not to exceed or prevent not to exceed will keep you safe from being an excessive gambler. Addiction also can
be avoided if you know what is your limit and you fully understand that you needed to stop.

Not keeping your records if you are playing just for the sake of entertainment for me is just fine. There's no wrong if you just play and go after.

Though there are people who love monitoring their money, both win and lose. They are balancing the amount of that moving
money while playing with the game or gambling game that they are involved with.
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October 24, 2023, 12:31:00 PM
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I don't think you can be called a bad gambler if you don't record your losses and wins here.
If it's just entertainment for you, you don't need to record it. I also don't record my gambling losses and wins because for me I don't need to record them because I'm not good at gambling either and I can only see the money I lose growing. If you enjoy it and control yourself when it comes to gambling, I don't think there is a problem. I think that's only for serious gamblers and professionals who keep track of their winnings and losses so they know if what they've been doing lately is good.

It can be said that it is bad and it can also be said that it is not bad, and in my opinion it goes back to how they respond to gambling, if indeed they gamble with just looking for entertainment and fun then I agree with you, it doesn't matter if and not record and calculate all the money lost and won. But if they come with the purpose of earning income like those who are already addicted then I think this calculation record is very important, this will be very useful to help you realize that the money you have spent is too big and it's time for you to stop and rest so that the situation does not get worse.

I think that even if you are firm in your own mind in gambling which means gambling just for fun I think there is nothing wrong if you occasionally do a calculation on the amount of your losses, because the situation is always difficult to guess, especially if you are very busy gambling then you can unconsciously continue to pour your money into the casino because you want the fun to continue even though it is not the victory that you prioritize. So in these two conditions I think the calculation can still be said to be quite important.

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October 24, 2023, 12:33:18 PM
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I don't think you can be called a bad gambler if you don't record your losses and wins here.
If it's just entertainment for you, you don't need to record it. I also don't record my gambling losses and wins because for me I don't need to record them because I'm not good at gambling either and I can only see the money I lose growing. If you enjoy it and control yourself when it comes to gambling, I don't think there is a problem. I think that's only for serious gamblers and professionals who keep track of their winnings and losses so they know if what they've been doing lately is good.

It really depends on the type of gambler and both are acceptable because what matters is how we gamble responsibly which means knowing our limits.

I do not have a track of my settings as well but I would love to do it if I have enough time. Maybe I will do it yearly. I am mostly into NBA bets so I also have plans to record my bets per NBA season. Losing is no big deal since I don't have huge bets but it would be cool to see if I am indeed winning. Making a record as well will make our bets and analysis more serious since there is a challenge to have a good track record. But as you said, this is just optional and should only be done if we have a lot of vacant hours.

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October 24, 2023, 01:16:31 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

You mean record like excel or history? No, I don't do that. If you are a gambler that bets on food sportsbooks and casino, they should have history of all your bets there, you can used that to track all your won and loss bets from there. All casino should have that because that's where they go check when you encounter any problem with your bets.

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Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

His decision and his way of betting but I have ways of keeping up with my gambling life. Every month, I take a survey of my deposit and withdrawals, when I check and observed that amount deposited is bigger than the amount I withdraw for that month, it shows that I had a bad month of gambling, when withdrawal is slightly greater than the deposit, then I will know that I didn't do much but when my withdrawal is larger or twice my deposit, then that gives me the impression that I had a good month of gambling.

While this sometimes are beyond my control because gambling will always be gambling, I think sometimes even if you keep the record, there is no way gambling earning will give you much like that, gambling is not an income or capital appreciating scheme. So enjoy the fun and gamble responsible.

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es sense. It wont hurt if a gambler try to start kerping their records, right? It's not a big deal, really. Give it a shot for a month or even longer and then decide if it's worth continuing. I did it with my transactions and it actually helped me stay organized. But hey if you believe you've got your limits under control and don't need it, that's totally fine. Keeping records doesn't define whether you're a good or bad gambler. For irresponsible gamblers, not keeping track can lead to problems. So, it's just a simple tool to help you stay on top of things so you can know yourself better on how you manage. No pressure, just a suggestion to make things a bit smoother for you Smiley

That's right, these records are optional because this is not actually a requirement to be a good gambler. Depends on each person. If it is needed for money management, of course it will make it easier to record his cash flows. However, having records can have an negative impact on psychological for some, let's say, when you see big amounts of losses from gambling, what will you do? If it doesn't threaten him to break his limit and can make him stop gamble, of course that's no problem. What is worrying is, that the emotion of seeing a large margin of loss makes him gamble beyond the limit.

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I don't think you can be called a bad gambler if you don't record your losses and wins here.
If it's just entertainment for you, you don't need to record it. I also don't record my gambling losses and wins because for me I don't need to record them because I'm not good at gambling either and I can only see the money I lose growing. If you enjoy it and control yourself when it comes to gambling, I don't think there is a problem. I think that's only for serious gamblers and professionals who keep track of their winnings and losses so they know if what they've been doing lately is good.


Plus if you're not a person who gambles regularly, then there's probably no need to record everything. BUT if you're a person who gambles just for entertainment, AND also gambles regulary, then as "gambler" I believe it's your responsibility to keep some records of how much of your monthly salary is going to the casino. It will probably help BlackJack players and sports bettors the most because it could possibly make them better at what they do, but for casino game players, it will merely help them lose a lesser amount of money because the house always has the edge against them.

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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
If it's about trading, then I will definitely keep records on it so I will know which trades need to be improved and which strategies will work for long term. But it's different in gambling, even if you keep records of your wins and losses, that will not change the fact that gambling outcome is very unpredictable and if you don't have the luck and the skills, you will continue to suffer from losses. As gambling is to lose, then it's hard to win when you are beating the house that is always supposed to win.

This is why I don't keep records in gambling. And whatever the amount I have on hand, once I decide it to gamble, I make sure that I'm comfortable even losing all of it. Gambling is mostly pure luck and chances, so I have to accept that it's hard to win in gambling if you don't have what it takes to win.

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So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Account keeping is good because of it benefit which is to let you know how much you are spending and how much you are also receiving like income and expenditure.

Regards to gambling, it is also a good practice but it is difficult to keep for someone who bet always, not just a daily bettor but someone who bet numerous times in a day like an addict. If you are someone who bet from time to time then you may want to keep the record to see how much you have spent and whether you actually made profit to continue or not. At a point when I was betting on a daily, I tried keeping such records but it is not easy to do.

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October 24, 2023, 02:48:52 PM
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I would say OP have the records but he don't know it let me explain.

To keep records about your gambling sessions, you don't need to focus on how much you win or lose with your bets, you can focus and the Deposits and Widrawals, and you can get that information on any casino where you are gambling. Just take that data and do the right math you will know if you are in profit or in a hole.

But i don't think something like this can make you a bad gambler, in the end gambling is about having fun.

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October 24, 2023, 03:43:03 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Nah, it's hard to record the number of wins and losses, unless you bet on a online platform. But if you go to land case casinos, then there's no way you can track of everything. On the other hand, why do we really need to know though? I'm just curious. Because for me, if you gamble and that money is allotted for that, then win or lose, that is going to be ok.

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

Yes, same for me, I just have some numbers in my head, but I don't really jotted down everything in a log or notepad or something.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

Perhaps if he had records though, maybe it's one reason why he will quit specially if he see the records and he is losing big amount of money. Something to pounder upon maybe when you are alone and think that maybe it's time to really stop this gambling for good.
You get it, I think to myself that if I start keeping record that's a reason to quit gambling someday because I can easily start thinking that I am wasting money on gambling, and now I am starting to like gambling even more, mind you I don't use money that I can't afford to lose.

I think that this could be a cool way to battle gambling addiction, if someone start writing the entire money they use on gambling down somewhere they can wake the hell up and decide to call it a quit, it's definitely going to look stupid for playing all along, the only difference for me is I use very small amount.

Even if I keep record for months I doubt it will reach $80 in two to three months because I don't do this everytime, I prefer gambling when I have the extra money, that's after doing all the necessary bills in the house, for Netflix and data subscription and others.

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October 24, 2023, 04:01:12 PM
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I think that this could be a cool way to battle gambling addiction, if someone start writing the entire money they use on gambling down somewhere they can wake the hell up and decide to call it a quit, it's definitely going to look stupid for playing all along, the only difference for me is I use very small amount.



Yes writing the record of your deposit and withdrawal is a good way to take a check on yourself to keep playing or not but I don't think it is for the addicts. An addict won't have that mindset to go that way because he is still engrossed to keep trying to win but anything that leads him to start going for records on his activities on gambling then that means he is near to quitting the addiction because he probably would see his losses and that may discourage him from playing persistently or quitting eventually.

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October 24, 2023, 04:08:20 PM
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In my opinion me as a gambler previous gambling records say what I was. Previous record show me my improvement what I was before vs I am now. Records show me my improvements in gambling. That motivate me to give more dedication in gambling sector. It's not bad to keep old gabbling record because old gambling record show us that how much nonprofessional we all are before. The all records are just a memory and a journey that we started from don't know anything to now. So keeping all records are memories for me. I always keep my records of every gambling because my  records show me that I am improving myself before I was.

If you don't keep your all gambling records fully depend on you that not mean that you are a not a good gambler. It's your own choice that you don't want to keep your all records of gambling. That don't mean that you are not a good gambler you experience prove that you are a good gambler or not.
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October 24, 2023, 04:35:29 PM
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In my opinion me as a gambler previous gambling records say what I was. Previous record show me my improvement what I was before vs I am now. Records show me my improvements in gambling. That motivate me to give more dedication in gambling sector. It's not bad to keep old gabbling record because old gambling record show us that how much nonprofessional we all are before. The all records are just a memory and a journey that we started from don't know anything to now. So keeping all records are memories for me. I always keep my records of every gambling because my  records show me that I am improving myself before I was.

If you don't keep your all gambling records fully depend on you that not mean that you are a not a good gambler. It's your own choice that you don't want to keep your all records of gambling. That don't mean that you are not a good gambler you experience prove that you are a good gambler or not.

But if you keep a record on your gambling activity then it is likely to turn into a long term record, added to the fact we all know, that in the long term the house or the casino will win over gamblers.
So would not better just to go along with the stream and enjoy your sessions without having to worried about whether you are on the green or the red?

Keeping a record on your gambling history does not have anything to do with being a better or worse gambler. Gambling is all about luck, so in the end a record will only tell you how lucky our unlucky you have been in previous times.

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October 24, 2023, 04:36:45 PM
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I wouldn't necessarily call someone whom doesn't keep their records a "bad gambler" , but I sure don't think it's a very smart thing to do.  I typically just play online gambling with the same couple casinos, so they tend to keep a ledger of your winnings/losings and for me that it good enough. I typically just analyze it once a year.  If I'm up for the year I'm happy, if I'm down, I might be a bit more cautious the next year.

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October 24, 2023, 04:53:54 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Is there even a need for one to keep such records? I don't see any reason for me to start doing that because I don't give financial records or statements to anyone based on my gambling activities.
 
But given this second lesson, there is really a need for anyone who gambles frequently to keep this kind of record, as this might help them reflect on how they gamble, as many people might consider gambling a business, so with such a record, you can be able to determine if you are spending more than you expect on gambling and losing more than you have put in, which can either be used to reduce someone's gambling activities or increase them, although without even booking this down on a note, one can always go back to the gambling site and get the bet history, unless those casinos only allow users to view up to a certain period.

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It is only a professional gambler who has taken on gambling as a career that would keep records. For me I think the reason why such a person would keep record is one to keep track of their profits and losses, for tax purposes, and maybe any other reason. Regular gamblers like you and I do not keep any record because we see no importance in doing so. But we will not fail to recall our losses and wins if there is ever a need for that during a conversation.

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I don't keep any records because there's no reason for me to do so. Keeping a record will remind me how much money I've lost via gambling, which will frustrate me. Grin I know that the money spent for gambling are more like money spent for entertainment purposes, but it still kinda sucks, when you see how much you have spent on such unproductive hobby as gambling.

  Grin Grin Grin I'm on the same page with you on this. I know that keeping records definitely has a role to play in one's gambling activity and might help to check some things that will help improve our decisions but doing that is not healthy to me and will make me regret doing that. Like how you feel seeing reasonable amount you could have used for something meaningful wasted on gambling? It can influence one to make more dangerous decision because you'll be eager to make a come back and recover what you have wasted and you end up losing more.

It makes no sense in my opinion because keeping record will never have effect on the outcome of your gambling. The highest thing you'll get from that is to stay off from gambling when you discover that you are losing much to gambling and guess what, you have deny yourself the joy and fun in gambling by keeping the record. It's absolutely a waste of time to me at least for now.

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October 24, 2023, 04:59:42 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

I think that in the last century it was necessary to keep records, but today it is not necessary at all. After all, gambling apps and websites are always ready to provide full statistics on all wins and losses. In general, the best indicator of any gambler's statistics is the amount of money on his deposit.
Accordingly, if there is nothing there, then everything with such a player is clear. There are already no records needed. And to avoid this, you need to own money management.

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It is only a professional gambler who has taken on gambling as a career that would keep records. For me I think the reason why such a person would keep record is one to keep track of their profits and losses, for tax purposes, and maybe any other reason. Regular gamblers like you and I do not keep any record because we see no importance in doing so. But we will not fail to recall our losses and wins if there is ever a need for that during a conversation.

Even being a professional gambler is not a yardstick to keep track of our gambling records on archive because if we look at how gambling is in general terms, we looses more than we make win while gambling, then why should we do this when we know it would result to nothing than being self disappointed, except if we are gambling on any other specific purpose that requires for accountability whereby we must keep records of all our gambling experience and betting slips.

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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?
Keeping records of all the winning and losses will be very difficult because is something that has to do with years and there is a likelihood that you could even lost count along the line but however if most people were able to have all the records of there losses it could make them not to gamble again because calculating all the money they lose it could be up to millions and they will start imagining what they would have achieved if they had saved the money instead.

So for me I don't think there is need for me to have all the records of my past wining and losses because it could affect me emotionally seeing all the money I wasted on gambling so the best way for me is just to focus on the present and leave the past.

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October 24, 2023, 07:04:53 PM
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It is only a professional gambler who has taken on gambling as a career that would keep records. For me I think the reason why such a person would keep record is one to keep track of their profits and losses, for tax purposes, and maybe any other reason. Regular gamblers like you and I do not keep any record because we see no importance in doing so. But we will not fail to recall our losses and wins if there is ever a need for that during a conversation.

I accept the aspect of tax purposes if the gambler is in the country where tax is levied on the winnings from gambling. This is to take direct check on how much has come in as profit and losses to know how much the tax office is to deduct or not to incase there is no winning. Apart from that, I don't expect professional gambler to worry himself about taking record of how much he wins since he is a professional meaning he must be in profit. Those who will worry about records are those who record losses more to take account of their expenses. Generally, it is more tedious to start taking record on gambling expenses and winnings if you are a regular player.

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October 24, 2023, 09:47:04 PM
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This is very correct and I don't expect anyone just to gamble without proper records of happenings around you and regards to several factors that have a much-rooted impact on our overall gambling life and such vital areas that we need to keep records of are.
1 the amount of deposits per time or week, you separate into two categories, the first category is to check how much you deposit on a daily, then the second category is your weekly deposits,  all this needs to be recorded in other to be able to plan ahead of your future spending and possible adjustment.
2: another aspect that needs a timely record is the area of how much time you spend gambling,  per day anweekks also, since your total timing almost equals how many wagers you may have made.

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October 24, 2023, 09:49:59 PM
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It is only a professional gambler who has taken on gambling as a career that would keep records. For me I think the reason why such a person would keep record is one to keep track of their profits and losses, for tax purposes, and maybe any other reason. Regular gamblers like you and I do not keep any record because we see no importance in doing so. But we will not fail to recall our losses and wins if there is ever a need for that during a conversation.
If yes, we can see how much money we make from gambling. And that should make us think about what we should do in gambling. Will we continue gambling but try to reduce the amount of money so as not to experience more losses or should we stop gambling because we will lose more? Everything will be a lesson for us to return to our original goal of gambling, where we gamble just to get pleasure. And when we get that pleasure, we must be able to stop before we lose control of ourselves in gambling.

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October 24, 2023, 10:47:47 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
If it is something that you don't do regularly, like once in a few months, then I don't think you have to keep records of anything as long as you haven't gambled heavily. But another reason to keep records of your profit is because of the taxes. If you win big, you must report it and pay your taxes on what you have won. And also if you are a regular gambler, then yes, it is best to keep records for your own good. It will help you organize financial costs/aspects more easily. It will also help you know if you are spending over the limit or not and if you should stop soon.

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October 24, 2023, 10:58:15 PM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
If it is something that you don't do regularly, like once in a few months, then I don't think you have to keep records of anything as long as you haven't gambled heavily. But another reason to keep records of your profit is because of the taxes. If you win big, you must report it and pay your taxes on what you have won. And also if you are a regular gambler, then yes, it is best to keep records for your own good. It will help you organize financial costs/aspects more easily. It will also help you know if you are spending over the limit or not and if you should stop soon.
Even if we do say that you are playing on everyday but doesnt mean that you would really needing to have that track of your gambling expense or betting yet seeing those numbers in accumulation would really be just making you that desperate on the time that you are seeing some significant amount and this is the main reason on why i dont really make myself having those tracks because instead on giving out benefit, it would really be that rather giving out that kind of negative impact into you. Well, it does really depend on a certain person because not all would really be that
confident about their spending and this is why they would really be needing that track but in overall it doesnt really have make sense because you would really be still be continuing on doing gambling.
What matter the most on here is that you should really be having that kind of moderation in terms of spending money with gambling because having no control would really be ending up
into those impulsive approach which we know that it would really be a huge disadvantage.

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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Is there even a need for one to keep such records? I don't see any reason for me to start doing that because I don't give financial records or statements to anyone based on my gambling activities.


But ser, if you're a casino regular, then regular recording-keeping of your gambling wins/losses is not something for you to share with someone. It's for YOU to reflect on your gambling activities, and if you're actually winning, or it could also be to know how much you're losing and if your weekly/monthly budget can take it.

But if you're rich who can gamble to lose/for entertainment, no need for record-keeping. But if you're merely a pleb, then you better know how much of your monthly salary is going to your gambling habit.

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But given this second lesson, there is really a need for anyone who gambles frequently to keep this kind of record, as this might help them reflect on how they gamble, as many people might consider gambling a business, so with such a record, you can be able to determine if you are spending more than you expect on gambling and losing more than you have put in, which can either be used to reduce someone's gambling activities or increase them, although without even booking this down on a note, one can always go back to the gambling site and get the bet history, unless those casinos only allow users to view up to a certain period.


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October 25, 2023, 05:23:32 AM
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I don't think you can be called a bad gambler if you don't record your losses and wins here.
If it's just entertainment for you, you don't need to record it. I also don't record my gambling losses and wins because for me I don't need to record them because I'm not good at gambling either and I can only see the money I lose growing. If you enjoy it and control yourself when it comes to gambling, I don't think there is a problem. I think that's only for serious gamblers and professionals who keep track of their winnings and losses so they know if what they've been doing lately is good.
I think most gamblers will never record the history of the results of their gambling and when they want to see it they might just look at the casino betting statistics history feature.
Whether it is gamblers who are just having fun or those who are looking for profit will not do it.
In fact some gamblers feel regret when looking at their betting history because they know how much they have lost so far.

If there is maybe just history of betting on the same day or time.
Because at the same time they will calculate the amount of losses and wins to be able to think and take what steps to take whether they are still able to continue or not.
That is only done by professional gamblers as you have said.

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I think most gamblers will never record the history of the results of their gambling and when they want to see it they might just look at the casino betting statistics history feature.
Whether it is gamblers who are just having fun or those who are looking for profit will not do it.
In fact some gamblers feel regret when looking at their betting history because they know how much they have lost so far.

If there is maybe just history of betting on the same day or time.
Because at the same time they will calculate the amount of losses and wins to be able to think and take what steps to take whether they are still able to continue or not.
That is only done by professional gamblers as you have said.
Looking at the history of gambling results can trigger our emotions to become irregular because we will be sad if we see the many losses we have experienced, especially if we also see the comparison between deposits and withdrawals. It turns out that the deposits are greater than the withdrawals. I don't have records of my gambling games because I don't need them and until now, I think I can still handle my gambling well even though I also experience losses like other gamblers.

If people who record the history of their gambling results can reduce their gambling activities and be stricter in how they use their money, that will be good for them because at least it can help them control their money. And they can also avoid losing a lot of money and can avoid gambling addiction.

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October 25, 2023, 12:38:42 PM
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I think most gamblers will never record the history of the results of their gambling and when they want to see it they might just look at the casino betting statistics history feature.
Whether it is gamblers who are just having fun or those who are looking for profit will not do it.
In fact some gamblers feel regret when looking at their betting history because they know how much they have lost so far.

If there is maybe just history of betting on the same day or time.
Because at the same time they will calculate the amount of losses and wins to be able to think and take what steps to take whether they are still able to continue or not.
That is only done by professional gamblers as you have said.
Looking at the history of gambling results can trigger our emotions to become irregular because we will be sad if we see the many losses we have experienced, especially if we also see the comparison between deposits and withdrawals. It turns out that the deposits are greater than the withdrawals. I don't have records of my gambling games because I don't need them and until now, I think I can still handle my gambling well even though I also experience losses like other gamblers.

But I don't think it will always be like that either, meaning that not everyone when they see the calculation of the amount of deposits and withdrawals will become emotional and even worse in gambling, and I think what is more effective is that in this way they will find out that they have gone very far in gambling by seeing that the number of defeats is much higher, and also in my opinion this will be able to make them realize that this is really gambling that only relies on luck, and also besides that they might change their mindset for the better and not too much.

If people who record the history of their gambling results can reduce their gambling activities and be stricter in how they use their money, that will be good for them because at least it can help them control their money. And they can also avoid losing a lot of money and can avoid gambling addiction.

I think this is indeed a pretty good laternative for every gambler to do, whether it's those who are already addicted or for those who think gambling is normal. It's like a business where management is very important, so in this way maybe I think as I said above and what you said, the chances are quite high that they will think that they will reduce their gambling budget and also of course they will apply more firm self-control when gambling. Basically prevention is always going to be better than cure.

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October 26, 2023, 05:15:05 AM
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But I don't think it will always be like that either, meaning that not everyone when they see the calculation of the amount of deposits and withdrawals will become emotional and even worse in gambling, and I think what is more effective is that in this way they will find out that they have gone very far in gambling by seeing that the number of defeats is much higher, and also in my opinion this will be able to make them realize that this is really gambling that only relies on luck, and also besides that they might change their mindset for the better and not too much.
Indeed, not everyone will become emotional when they see the comparison between deposit and withdrawal amounts because it depends on a person's perspective, especially if that person makes the notes just to find out how much money has been used for gambling. And if they realize this month they have deposited more than the previous month, they really need to reduce it and see how their finances stand. It could be that having a gambling record can make him aware of staying within his limits so that he doesn't gamble excessively and can still enjoy gambling as entertainment.

I think this is indeed a pretty good laternative for every gambler to do, whether it's those who are already addicted or for those who think gambling is normal. It's like a business where management is very important, so in this way maybe I think as I said above and what you said, the chances are quite high that they will think that they will reduce their gambling budget and also of course they will apply more firm self-control when gambling. Basically prevention is always going to be better than cure.
Having a record of his gambling journey can keep him from exceeding his limits so he won't try to spend more money just to gamble. But there are also people who don't keep notes about their gambling because they think they can still care for themselves while gambling and don't overdo it. They can still gamble sufficiently and have a budget for gambling and do not exceed the budget for gambling. And yes, prevention will always be better than cure.

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October 26, 2023, 10:25:31 AM
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But I don't think it will always be like that either, meaning that not everyone when they see the calculation of the amount of deposits and withdrawals will become emotional and even worse in gambling, and I think what is more effective is that in this way they will find out that they have gone very far in gambling by seeing that the number of defeats is much higher, and also in my opinion this will be able to make them realize that this is really gambling that only relies on luck, and also besides that they might change their mindset for the better and not too much.
Indeed, not everyone will become emotional when they see the comparison between deposit and withdrawal amounts because it depends on a person's perspective, especially if that person makes the notes just to find out how much money has been used for gambling. And if they realize this month they have deposited more than the previous month, they really need to reduce it and see how their finances stand. It could be that having a gambling record can make him aware of staying within his limits so that he doesn't gamble excessively and can still enjoy gambling as entertainment.

Well more precisely like that maybe, we just find a middle ground and as you said whether or not they are emotional in this case really depends on how each person's point of view is, as we discussed above there are those who are emotional when they see the calculation records due to the number of dominating defeats that make them finally more ambitious in gambling with the intention of revenge and there are also those who think with common sense that this is gambling which as I said before it is only about whether or not someone is lucky in their gambling journey, so both of these things can really happen to two human characters. What I have in mind is that maybe by calculating all the amounts they spend it is possible to make them realize and finally reduce their gambling. Especially if their finances are not good or in the sense that their income is only enough to support their lives, it is very possible to be able to think healthily and reduce all gambling activities.

I think this is indeed a pretty good laternative for every gambler to do, whether it's those who are already addicted or for those who think gambling is normal. It's like a business where management is very important, so in this way maybe I think as I said above and what you said, the chances are quite high that they will think that they will reduce their gambling budget and also of course they will apply more firm self-control when gambling. Basically prevention is always going to be better than cure.
Having a record of his gambling journey can keep him from exceeding his limits so he won't try to spend more money just to gamble. But there are also people who don't keep notes about their gambling because they think they can still care for themselves while gambling and don't overdo it. They can still gamble sufficiently and have a budget for gambling and do not exceed the budget for gambling. And yes, prevention will always be better than cure.

Although this alternative is quite good but everything will return to their respective awareness, because it is useless if they take notes but do not find any awareness to get better. Management is one of the most important things in any field or profession or even in our real life, we must be able to make everything run in balance using this management. Well it is true that there are also those who do not record like this at all, as you said it is because they still feel that their gambling is still manageable or maybe they feel that they have not lost too much money, it is also quite good as long as what they say is not just a feeling but in accordance with reality.

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October 26, 2023, 11:00:04 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

I don't keep a record of my wins and my losses because if I keep a record I will have a huge deficit because I lose a lot more than I win and I will be disappointed if I see a big amount of money that I lose so I just take it per game and if I lose I erase it to my memory and move on.
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Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.
I also don't see any reason to record or keep a record maybe if you keep a record and you see the amount of money you've lost you will be discouraged from gambling, but will it keep you from playing, whether you play for entertainment or playing for money keeping a record will not keep you from playing I don't think its a cure to stop gambling

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Not keeping or keeping a record will not make you a bad gambler what makes you a gambler is you spend money that you cannot afford to lose, if you spend little money, and that little money will have an impact on your living it will make you a bad gambler.
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October 26, 2023, 11:06:21 AM
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I think most gamblers will never record the history of the results of their gambling and when they want to see it they might just look at the casino betting statistics history feature.
Whether it is gamblers who are just having fun or those who are looking for profit will not do it.
In fact some gamblers feel regret when looking at their betting history because they know how much they have lost so far.

If there is maybe just history of betting on the same day or time.
Because at the same time they will calculate the amount of losses and wins to be able to think and take what steps to take whether they are still able to continue or not.
That is only done by professional gamblers as you have said.

because most gamblers don't record the results of the gambling they do, that's why there are many gamblers who end up losing big, I don't gamble very often but for the last year I have been trying to record how much capital I have - my losses - my wins every time I gamble on Google. doc, the results are quite good, I can control myself so as not to exceed the limit of money that I can afford to lose. Try to apply discipline in gambling, the results will be very good for you.



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October 26, 2023, 11:18:07 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
OP you raised some good questions here. Most of us who are involved in gambling platforms and those who bet on gambling platforms do not keep track of the winnings and losses of bets on these gambling platforms. But it is better for each person to keep track of the winnings and losses of this bet because keeping track of wins and losses will help each person how much money they have lost and won in the bet. Keeping track of wins and losses will never lead to gambling addiction. A good gambler must keep a record of these wins and losses. Not keeping track of wins and losses can make a person a bad gambler.

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October 26, 2023, 12:28:36 PM
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I think it's extremely important to keep track, even if you're not a professional player. In order to know whether you made more money or lost. And if you have lost more and this number is growing, then this is an extremely important signal to stop with it!  Have a look at this, and consider tracking your gambling expenses.. This is relevant for those who play regularly. After all, there are more chances to become addicted to gambling.
Well, in general, it is a very good habit to write down your expenses. Such people usually have no problem living 'paycheck to paycheck.
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October 26, 2023, 12:43:58 PM
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If that's what you want of not keeping records, you're not a bad gambler. What makes a bad gambler is being reckless and senseless. That's when to the point that you won't care anymore to your family and all you do is gamble all day long. You may be a full time gambler but don't disregard the obligations that you have and everything that you are routine to do.

Remember that we're not perfect but as a gambler, there's already the bad descriptions that were given to us based on what people have seen from the other gamblers for being reckless. If you are going to be like them, you're also giving that point of view to them and proves them right. So, recording isn't a big deal but if you and your wife argues with that, that's a different story brother and you need to submit yourself to her and start recording to give that proof that you're just a gambler and not more than that.

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October 27, 2023, 06:48:36 AM
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Well more precisely like that maybe, we just find a middle ground and as you said whether or not they are emotional in this case really depends on how each person's point of view is, as we discussed above there are those who are emotional when they see the calculation records due to the number of dominating defeats that make them finally more ambitious in gambling with the intention of revenge and there are also those who think with common sense that this is gambling which as I said before it is only about whether or not someone is lucky in their gambling journey, so both of these things can really happen to two human characters. What I have in mind is that maybe by calculating all the amounts they spend it is possible to make them realize and finally reduce their gambling. Especially if their finances are not good or in the sense that their income is only enough to support their lives, it is very possible to be able to think healthily and reduce all gambling activities.
Yes, this can also be done so that they just calculate all the amounts they spend or maybe they only need to calculate the deposit amount so that they can be more strict about the deposit amount for gambling and don't care how much money they use. But with a note, they have to gamble with small bets and not spend a lot of money. If they want, they can limit the use of the money they deposit into their gambling accounts and not gamble with large bets or greatly limit the amount of bets. If they can do this and stay within the limits, they can see a reduction in the amount of money they spend on gambling while still having some other money.

Although this alternative is quite good but everything will return to their respective awareness, because it is useless if they take notes but do not find any awareness to get better. Management is one of the most important things in any field or profession or even in our real life, we must be able to make everything run in balance using this management. Well it is true that there are also those who do not record like this at all, as you said it is because they still feel that their gambling is still manageable or maybe they feel that they have not lost too much money, it is also quite good as long as what they say is not just a feeling but in accordance with reality.
It is true that you said that awareness is really needed in this case so that they can start reducing their gambling if they have spent too much gambling. This is done so that they can avoid the biggest problem that gamblers will experience, namely gambling addiction, especially if they do not impose restrictions while gambling. It will only make them addicted to gambling in a short time and when that happens, they will not even realize it because they are too engrossed in gambling. If everything goes in balance, they will not experience any problems. They can instead enjoy gambling as entertainment that uses money, but the use of money will not be as big as other people's because they always try to limit their gambling games.

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October 27, 2023, 11:56:38 AM
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Although this alternative is quite good but everything will return to their respective awareness, because it is useless if they take notes but do not find any awareness to get better. Management is one of the most important things in any field or profession or even in our real life, we must be able to make everything run in balance using this management. Well it is true that there are also those who do not record like this at all, as you said it is because they still feel that their gambling is still manageable or maybe they feel that they have not lost too much money, it is also quite good as long as what they say is not just a feeling but in accordance with reality.
It is true that you said that awareness is really needed in this case so that they can start reducing their gambling if they have spent too much gambling. This is done so that they can avoid the biggest problem that gamblers will experience, namely gambling addiction, especially if they do not impose restrictions while gambling. It will only make them addicted to gambling in a short time and when that happens, they will not even realize it because they are too engrossed in gambling. If everything goes in balance, they will not experience any problems. They can instead enjoy gambling as entertainment that uses money, but the use of money will not be as big as other people's because they always try to limit their gambling games.

And indeed this is a positive side or as a good reciprocity why they should keep a record of all the money they have allocated to gambling, do not always remember the victory but try to be patient by seeing how much they have lost. After all, this is also for their own good, and if they really love themselves then obviously I think there is no other reason for them not to reduce their gambling.

Yes, it is true that all of this we do is for our own good, basically it is better to prevent than to cure, because of course being in a gambling addiction is very unpleasant and I have felt that every time I experienced a lot of pressure in terms of finance. Money that was supposed to be used for living needs instead I used to gamble in the hope that there would be a much bigger return and in the end it turned out that all the money was gone, honestly I was almost depressed and didn't know where to look for help. So the point is it doesn't matter if they can't leave gambling because I understand to stop completely it's almost impossible at one time, well one way is to reduce your gambling activities and also reduce the amount of your budget, don't be too curious about winning because even though your budget is small if you are lucky then you will also win even with a small amount, but it's better than you losing 100% of the money you have. So just allocate at least 5% of the money you have if it's just for fun, it's better.

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October 27, 2023, 01:06:27 PM
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It is only a professional gambler who has taken on gambling as a career that would keep records. For me I think the reason why such a person would keep record is one to keep track of their profits and losses, for tax purposes, and maybe any other reason. Regular gamblers like you and I do not keep any record because we see no importance in doing so. But we will not fail to recall our losses and wins if there is ever a need for that during a conversation.
Even professional gamblers I think majority are still not keeping records about their wins and losses. For what? Losses will always be money lost and we can't do nothing about it since gambling itself cannot assure us that we will be given chances to win consistently. If they do that, it's like they are putting their business into bankruptcy later on. Maybe for beginner gamblers they will try to monitor their wins and losses through recording it, but eventually when they realize that gambling is all about losses than winnings, then they will ignore recording it anyway.

For me, keeping some records of my previous losses would only push me to realize how far I have gone with gambling that I was able to lose a lot. It could only make me regret of my past decisions and losses. 
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October 27, 2023, 01:14:44 PM
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Keeping records of your wins and losses will only bring depression to you especially the ones you lost, I won't advise you to start keeping records of your gambling history. Is best you gamble and forget everything about it or better still be thinking about the winning you had in the past to make you feel less depressed but outside from that, is a no no to keep records of your loss and win.

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October 27, 2023, 01:40:37 PM
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Keeping those records for me is not necessary and I do think it may cause more harm than good, you will barely have more winnings than losses looking back at how much you have put into it,  so makes no sense looking back at records as it may provoke you into start gambling in such a way to recover or with the hope of recovering those losses. Therefore,  I'm cool with not going back into the past to avoid causing or triggering some form of anxiety betting that may affect the outcome of my current or future gambling style.

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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?
Keeping records of all the winning and losses will be very difficult because is something that has to do with years and there is a likelihood that you could even lost count along the line but however if most people were able to have all the records of there losses it could make them not to gamble again because calculating all the money they lose it could be up to millions and they will start imagining what they would have achieved if they had saved the money instead.

So for me I don't think there is need for me to have all the records of my past wining and losses because it could affect me emotionally seeing all the money I wasted on gambling so the best way for me is just to focus on the present and leave the past.

Well, as I have always said, things are about recording past games, and even more so if you lost it is not a good thing, because basically you will start with a negative record, and it is automatic that as a player you will see that and want to put it in Green , then when this type of things happens it is not good, because the people who are more focused on seeing and doing a good activity can make themselves evident so that they can have a better performance for everything, so in this order of ideas it is You can say that for everything you need to have and start with a good attitude and one of those is to start from scratch, forgetting all Failure and obtaining the best results, that is how to say, I start today, and it is as if it were my First time, just like that You could keep a good record but because you already have experience, you already know what the Games are like and basically things can happen according to how you can have the option to improve and for that it is good to have an excel sheet where you can Carry out Everything in the respective order.

And the data that can be carried out in that record Depends on how big you want it, with more specifications or with more things to do, so in this order of ideas we must always think that every time we play, like the basic rules, have a balance willing to lose, the other thing is that you have an order when playing, that you seek to win, and if the money that you were Willing to lose was lost, you should not miss it and make another deposit, because that is not how it works , then you can It can be said that when it comes to doing more things , they can become evident, money is something that we must take great care of, some say that they bet little, and 1 dollar is not painful, well it should hurt because from dollar to dollar a number is reached very large amount of money and that is what we have to see, there is no other way, in this order of things we can observe that money must all be given its Value , that is why it is good to make these Records.

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Keeping a record does not do anything good for a gambler. It only makes you stressed if you can check your average loss. Also, it's unnecessary, if you're the type of gambler, online casinos have the stats of every player showing the W/L ratio.

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Keeping a record does not do anything good for a gambler. It only makes you stressed if you can check your average loss. Also, it's unnecessary, if you're the type of gambler, online casinos have the stats of every player showing the W/L ratio.

Even if a specific casino has all your history, whenever you go to another one, or a real life casino you won't have the complete picture.

And you might end up thinking that you are better than where you really are.

It's a good thing to keep track of your spending, but of course casinos end up better when gamblers don't do this.

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October 28, 2023, 07:12:57 AM
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And indeed this is a positive side or as a good reciprocity why they should keep a record of all the money they have allocated to gambling, do not always remember the victory but try to be patient by seeing how much they have lost. After all, this is also for their own good, and if they really love themselves then obviously I think there is no other reason for them not to reduce their gambling.

Yes, it is true that all of this we do is for our own good, basically it is better to prevent than to cure, because of course being in a gambling addiction is very unpleasant and I have felt that every time I experienced a lot of pressure in terms of finance. Money that was supposed to be used for living needs instead I used to gamble in the hope that there would be a much bigger return and in the end it turned out that all the money was gone, honestly I was almost depressed and didn't know where to look for help. So the point is it doesn't matter if they can't leave gambling because I understand to stop completely it's almost impossible at one time, well one way is to reduce your gambling activities and also reduce the amount of your budget, don't be too curious about winning because even though your budget is small if you are lucky then you will also win even with a small amount, but it's better than you losing 100% of the money you have. So just allocate at least 5% of the money you have if it's just for fun, it's better.
By seeing how much they lose, they can learn that they have used too much money and if they can reduce the amount of money, they can use the money for other things that might be more useful. And when compared, there is a possibility that the number of wins will be smaller than the number of losses because we will rarely get big wins. We lose more often and if there is no self-control, the number of losses will increase and even exceed our expectations.

That is why we have to allocate a certain amount to play gambling and there is no need to allocate a larger amount just because we lose. It is precisely by experiencing defeat that we must be able to introspect ourselves that what we are doing is starting to become excessive. We must be able to reduce it, either slowly or immediately reducing the allocation of funds for gambling. In that way, we can hope that we can reduce our gambling and we also do not take the risk of losing too much money because we already have the experience of losing big money so we try to prevent it from happening. We can only continue to try to control the use of funds for gambling so that we can gamble responsibly.

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October 28, 2023, 07:30:23 AM
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Keeping records of your wins and losses will only bring depression to you especially the ones you lost, I won't advise you to start keeping records of your gambling history.
On the contrary,  keeping records can actually help in handling gambling addictions. If you keep note of what you have invested and what you have won, that will help you in decision making.
We cannot shy away from acknowledging that losses is part of the gambling. Taking not of thus losses is actually part of the business of gambling. It has been discussed in several threads here that money management is a good habit for successful gambling. How do you ensure proper money management without taking note of the losses.

I'm of the opinion that proper record keeping is very important as it helps in many ways. Gambling is business so taking stock is very important in business.

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October 28, 2023, 09:22:56 AM
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And indeed this is a positive side or as a good reciprocity why they should keep a record of all the money they have allocated to gambling, do not always remember the victory but try to be patient by seeing how much they have lost. After all, this is also for their own good, and if they really love themselves then obviously I think there is no other reason for them not to reduce their gambling.

Yes, it is true that all of this we do is for our own good, basically it is better to prevent than to cure, because of course being in a gambling addiction is very unpleasant and I have felt that every time I experienced a lot of pressure in terms of finance. Money that was supposed to be used for living needs instead I used to gamble in the hope that there would be a much bigger return and in the end it turned out that all the money was gone, honestly I was almost depressed and didn't know where to look for help. So the point is it doesn't matter if they can't leave gambling because I understand to stop completely it's almost impossible at one time, well one way is to reduce your gambling activities and also reduce the amount of your budget, don't be too curious about winning because even though your budget is small if you are lucky then you will also win even with a small amount, but it's better than you losing 100% of the money you have. So just allocate at least 5% of the money you have if it's just for fun, it's better.
By seeing how much they lose, they can learn that they have used too much money and if they can reduce the amount of money, they can use the money for other things that might be more useful. And when compared, there is a possibility that the number of wins will be smaller than the number of losses because we will rarely get big wins. We lose more often and if there is no self-control, the number of losses will increase and even exceed our expectations.

The point is that self-awareness is very important in problems like this, because addiction is not a physical disease but a disease that exists in the human subconscious where their mindset has been disturbed in terms of expectations in gambling. If they are already aware then it is clear that they will not do the same thing or repeat their mistakes again, with that then I think the reduction session in the form of time and budget they can definitely do, that's because their mindset has slowly begun to recover by considering gambling as it should be and not caring too much about expectations. Preferring to allocate their money to other important things in life is better and I think they will do this if they really realize. True, as you said the number of losses will usually be higher than the number of wins, that's for sure in my opinion and therefore for those who are still not too far in gambling I hope they will keep their mindset so as not to overdo it, don't put too much hope there because obviously this is just profit - profit only and in addition there is no guarantee whatsoever to win.


That is why we have to allocate a certain amount to play gambling and there is no need to allocate a larger amount just because we lose. It is precisely by experiencing defeat that we must be able to introspect ourselves that what we are doing is starting to become excessive. We must be able to reduce it, either slowly or immediately reducing the allocation of funds for gambling. In that way, we can hope that we can reduce our gambling and we also do not take the risk of losing too much money because we already have the experience of losing big money so we try to prevent it from happening. We can only continue to try to control the use of funds for gambling so that we can gamble responsibly.

Well yes that's right, we must be able to realize and also with a little self-introspection when we have experienced a large enough defeat that you absolutely cannot accept, with that we should be able to think that even though you bring a large budget but it still can't change anything. It's really just about luck, and you've proven that any way doesn't work, one of which is bringing a large enough budget. I hope that you or anyone who is still gambling now can learn from the experiences I've had above. It only makes things worse. So there is nothing better unless you stop, it's okay, you can start slowly to get a little better and hopefully you can continue to do it consistently.

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October 29, 2023, 04:52:12 AM
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The point is that self-awareness is very important in problems like this, because addiction is not a physical disease but a disease that exists in the human subconscious where their mindset has been disturbed in terms of expectations in gambling. If they are already aware then it is clear that they will not do the same thing or repeat their mistakes again, with that then I think the reduction session in the form of time and budget they can definitely do, that's because their mindset has slowly begun to recover by considering gambling as it should be and not caring too much about expectations. Preferring to allocate their money to other important things in life is better and I think they will do this if they really realize. True, as you said the number of losses will usually be higher than the number of wins, that's for sure in my opinion and therefore for those who are still not too far in gambling I hope they will keep their mindset so as not to overdo it, don't put too much hope there because obviously this is just profit - profit only and in addition there is no guarantee whatsoever to win.
Gambling addiction is a constant desire in one's mind to be able to gamble more often. Still, the problem is that many of those who are addicted to gambling don't have a lot of money so when they lose, they have to wait until they can have money to continue gambling. During that waiting time, they can experience various kinds of problems such as discomfort, frustration, and others because they can't wait to be able to continue gambling. People who are addicted to gambling really need help and whether they realize it or not, the people around them must start to realize the fact that they need to help people who are addicted to gambling. And before someone becomes addicted to gambling, he should be aware that playing gambling has many risks and the worst thing is experiencing a gambling addiction so he needs to have or learn good self-control so that he is not affected by gambling.

Well yes that's right, we must be able to realize and also with a little self-introspection when we have experienced a large enough defeat that you absolutely cannot accept, with that we should be able to think that even though you bring a large budget but it still can't change anything. It's really just about luck, and you've proven that any way doesn't work, one of which is bringing a large enough budget. I hope that you or anyone who is still gambling now can learn from the experiences I've had above. It only makes things worse. So there is nothing better unless you stop, it's okay, you can start slowly to get a little better and hopefully you can continue to do it consistently.
Experiencing a fairly large loss should make us aware and have the desire to do self-introspection so that we can find out that we have started to cross the line and really need to reduce our gambling habits. And if we are back on track, we have to really remember this so that we don't get off track so that we don't experience any problems and can enjoy gambling comfortably and can also treat gambling as it should be. And if we can always carry ourselves while playing gambling well, we will not exceed the limits we have set so we will not have negative experiences.

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October 29, 2023, 09:08:52 AM
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The point is that self-awareness is very important in problems like this, because addiction is not a physical disease but a disease that exists in the human subconscious where their mindset has been disturbed in terms of expectations in gambling. If they are already aware then it is clear that they will not do the same thing or repeat their mistakes again, with that then I think the reduction session in the form of time and budget they can definitely do, that's because their mindset has slowly begun to recover by considering gambling as it should be and not caring too much about expectations. Preferring to allocate their money to other important things in life is better and I think they will do this if they really realize. True, as you said the number of losses will usually be higher than the number of wins, that's for sure in my opinion and therefore for those who are still not too far in gambling I hope they will keep their mindset so as not to overdo it, don't put too much hope there because obviously this is just profit - profit only and in addition there is no guarantee whatsoever to win.
Gambling addiction is a constant desire in one's mind to be able to gamble more often. Still, the problem is that many of those who are addicted to gambling don't have a lot of money so when they lose, they have to wait until they can have money to continue gambling. During that waiting time, they can experience various kinds of problems such as discomfort, frustration, and others because they can't wait to be able to continue gambling. People who are addicted to gambling really need help and whether they realize it or not, the people around them must start to realize the fact that they need to help people who are addicted to gambling. And before someone becomes addicted to gambling, he should be aware that playing gambling has many risks and the worst thing is experiencing a gambling addiction so he needs to have or learn good self-control so that he is not affected by gambling.

And also none other than their desire to continue gambling is based on curiosity and greed for the winnings that are difficult for them to get or want to increase the amount of winnings that they have clearly gotten, but like those who are addicted they will never be enough with what they have gotten and always want more than that. In my opinion, it is quite natural why most of those who are addicted are from the lower middle class or in the sense that their finances are not good, it is none other than their goal to come to gambling because they want to increase their finances by making some wins that are clearly very difficult to get, instead of getting a win but the opposite happens, they actually suffer a lot of losses and after that they are even crazier to chase the win because they don't accept the defeat at the previous time. For the problem of impact, don't ask anymore, as you said the pressure they will definitely feel and also even to depression and the worst impact maybe they will be stressed and also maybe they could commit suicide because they are not strong with such conditions, I don't rarely find cases like that. If the level of addiction is very severe then yes they need help from others, because it is impossible with conditions like that they realize by themselves, I hope anyone who is now still gambling please stay firm on self-control.

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October 29, 2023, 06:08:33 PM
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Keeping records of your wins and losses will only bring depression to you especially the ones you lost, I won't advise you to start keeping records of your gambling history.
On the contrary,  keeping records can actually help in handling gambling addictions. If you keep note of what you have invested and what you have won, that will help you in decision making.
We cannot shy away from acknowledging that losses is part of the gambling. Taking not of thus losses is actually part of the business of gambling. It has been discussed in several threads here that money management is a good habit for successful gambling. How do you ensure proper money management without taking note of the losses.

I'm of the opinion that proper record keeping is very important as it helps in many ways. Gambling is business so taking stock is very important in business.
I concur, if keeping track of your wins and losses awakes on you all kind of negative feelings then it is obvious there is some sort of problem with the way you gamble, in my case I can take a look at my records and I do not feel a thing about it and I am sure this is true as well for all of those gamblers that just gamble for the excitement they can get out of it, so while not keeping records will not necessarily make someone a bad gambler, as long as they do not want to become professional gamblers, it can make way more difficult to spot a problematic behavior early.

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On the contrary,  keeping records can actually help in handling gambling addictions. If you keep note of what you have invested and what you have won, that will help you in decision making.
We cannot shy away from acknowledging that losses is part of the gambling. Taking not of thus losses is actually part of the business of gambling. It has been discussed in several threads here that money management is a good habit for successful gambling. How do you ensure proper money management without taking note of the losses.

I'm of the opinion that proper record keeping is very important as it helps in many ways. Gambling is business so taking stock is very important in business.

I don't know.

I think it's a tricky situation, because if you really sit down and keep track of everything you have put in, and everything you have won, eventually you will realize that gambling is not making you any money, so you will probably stop.

But you probably knew that before gambling. The odds are against you, so if you gamble you will lose money, most probably.

Still many people around the world gamble, even knowing this. So, there is clearly another component to consider.

Maybe it is the hope to win?, maybe it is the thrill of the sounds and lights?, maybe it is being around other people?, who knows, but it is clearly not only a mathematical thing, because otherwise no one would gamble.

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October 30, 2023, 08:02:15 AM
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And also none other than their desire to continue gambling is based on curiosity and greed for the winnings that are difficult for them to get or want to increase the amount of winnings that they have clearly gotten, but like those who are addicted they will never be enough with what they have gotten and always want more than that. In my opinion, it is quite natural why most of those who are addicted are from the lower middle class or in the sense that their finances are not good, it is none other than their goal to come to gambling because they want to increase their finances by making some wins that are clearly very difficult to get, instead of getting a win but the opposite happens, they actually suffer a lot of losses and after that they are even crazier to chase the win because they don't accept the defeat at the previous time. For the problem of impact, don't ask anymore, as you said the pressure they will definitely feel and also even to depression and the worst impact maybe they will be stressed and also maybe they could commit suicide because they are not strong with such conditions, I don't rarely find cases like that. If the level of addiction is very severe then yes they need help from others, because it is impossible with conditions like that they realize by themselves, I hope anyone who is now still gambling please stay firm on self-control.
Yes, it is normal for people to become addicted to gambling because they cannot control themselves while gambling and have no other activities especially when they look at their gambling records, they find that the number of losses is still greater than the number of wins. It will indirectly be recorded in his subconscious memory and tell him that he must be able to recover his losses one day and that can make him continue gambling without stopping. If that happens, he may not be able to recover his previous losses but it will only increase his losses even more because of his lack of self-control in gambling. But if there is a person who does not have a record of his gambling, that does not necessarily make that person a bad gambler because he could just use gambling as a way to have fun in addition to using other activities. So if we don't have a gambling record, we have a reason but we don't tell other people because it's private.

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October 30, 2023, 08:30:05 AM
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And also none other than their desire to continue gambling is based on curiosity and greed for the winnings that are difficult for them to get or want to increase the amount of winnings that they have clearly gotten, but like those who are addicted they will never be enough with what they have gotten and always want more than that. In my opinion, it is quite natural why most of those who are addicted are from the lower middle class or in the sense that their finances are not good, it is none other than their goal to come to gambling because they want to increase their finances by making some wins that are clearly very difficult to get, instead of getting a win but the opposite happens, they actually suffer a lot of losses and after that they are even crazier to chase the win because they don't accept the defeat at the previous time. For the problem of impact, don't ask anymore, as you said the pressure they will definitely feel and also even to depression and the worst impact maybe they will be stressed and also maybe they could commit suicide because they are not strong with such conditions, I don't rarely find cases like that. If the level of addiction is very severe then yes they need help from others, because it is impossible with conditions like that they realize by themselves, I hope anyone who is now still gambling please stay firm on self-control.
Yes, it is normal for people to become addicted to gambling because they cannot control themselves while gambling and have no other activities especially when they look at their gambling records, they find that the number of losses is still greater than the number of wins. It will indirectly be recorded in his subconscious memory and tell him that he must be able to recover his losses one day and that can make him continue gambling without stopping. If that happens, he may not be able to recover his previous losses but it will only increase his losses even more because of his lack of self-control in gambling. But if there is a person who does not have a record of his gambling, that does not necessarily make that person a bad gambler because he could just use gambling as a way to have fun in addition to using other activities. So if we don't have a gambling record, we have a reason but we don't tell other people because it's private.

I will honestly never get tired of saying that self-control and some limits are the first things that every gambler must have, and if they ignore this then don't be surprised when defeat always dominates you, as you said the more definite impact is that they will quickly enter the stage of addiction, In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you're going to want to make sure that you've got a good idea of what you're going to be doing. Checking the amount of defeat that turns out to be greater than the victory, it is also very likely to make them upset so that they continue to gamble to restore the amount of defeat, even though it is not recommended because obviously they will waste time and money and what happens is that the amount of defeat is even greater.

Checking gambling records in my opinion can make people aware and better and also vice versa, as discussed above it can also make them even more upset because it turns out that the amount of loss is greater, and I think for the problem of awareness it depends on each individual in reacting to it. I think privacy will only make it more difficult for them to get out of the zone, because how can people help them if they don't tell their problems.

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October 30, 2023, 08:32:05 AM
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Keeping a record does not do anything good for a gambler. It only makes you stressed if you can check your average loss. Also, it's unnecessary, if you're the type of gambler, online casinos have the stats of every player showing the W/L ratio.
Usually gamblers do this kind of thing very little. Gambling goes back and forth between wins and losses. Many gamblers will become frustrated and stressed as they attempt to recapture past records. It is good to consider the pros and cons of the casino when playing in a casino. Many casinos have a record of scams. Gamblers spend a lot of money on betting and it is difficult for a gambler to balance them. Records are generally the backbone of any organization good for any external activities of the company and essential for making sound management decisions. Without reliable and secure access to critical documents, many businesses risk making poor decisions that result in losses, corruption and mismanagement.
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October 30, 2023, 08:35:46 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with keeping records of gambling losses/winnings, but I myself stopped doing it a long time ago as I realized that this activity has minimal value for me. I am sure that for someone who is used to count everything such records provide useful information, but unfortunately I have not been able to get any valuable experience for myself. I am actually quite content with introducing a budget limit for gambling into my gambling experience.

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I will honestly never get tired of saying that self-control and some limits are the first things that every gambler must have, and if they ignore this then don't be surprised when defeat always dominates you, as you said the more definite impact is that they will quickly enter the stage of addiction, In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you're going to want to make sure that you've got a good idea of what you're going to be doing. Checking the amount of defeat that turns out to be greater than the victory, it is also very likely to make them upset so that they continue to gamble to restore the amount of defeat, even though it is not recommended because obviously they will waste time and money and what happens is that the amount of defeat is even greater.

Checking gambling records in my opinion can make people aware and better and also vice versa, as discussed above it can also make them even more upset because it turns out that the amount of loss is greater, and I think for the problem of awareness it depends on each individual in reacting to it. I think privacy will only make it more difficult for them to get out of the zone, because how can people help them if they don't tell their problems.
I would also say the same thing as you because after all, self-control plays a role in preventing us from experiencing a lot of losses so that we will not sink deeper into gambling. We have to overcome and avoid problems that will arise and this has been experienced by many people who often gamble. If we don't want to experience the same thing as them, we really have to learn better control so that it can protect us while we gamble and after we finish gambling, we won't experience a lot of losses or want to recover from those losses. If we lose, there will be a feeling of wanting to recover from that loss, but if we have good self-control, we will not try to recover because it will be difficult for us. We will lose more and more and that means we will lose more and more money.

As long as the person is aware and willing to admit that he has used a lot of money just for gambling and is willing to reduce his use of money, he can really reduce his gambling activities so as not to experience more and more losses. But it all depends on each person's wishes because we can suggest something like that but if the person doesn't want to do it and thinks that he is still okay when looking at the gambling records, that's up to them. The important thing is that we should always limit ourselves and if we think having a gambling record is good for us, we can create one. But if not, we don't need to create it.

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October 30, 2023, 11:01:29 AM
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There is no need to keep record on how much you are spending on gambling, all you need to know is how much you are willing to risk on gambling every day, two-two days or every week, whatever is convenient for you, going back to your record will have impact on your gambling activities, this can easily push you away from gambling as your mind will start calculating how much you have risk so far, so it's not needed.

If you are using a dollar to gamble and you are making hundreds of dollars why the Need to keep record when the money isn't even close to a two figures? Do you know that keeping record can also make you chase losses? It's one way or the other, it can make you hate gambling and decide to quit or it can make your mind start wanting your money back, that's if you are risking high amount of money every day that you gamble.

It depends on what type of a gambler you are but it's better not to keep any records at all, it's not going to help you in anyway, keeping record doesn't make you a better gambler, always risk only what you can afford to lose, this is what can make you a better gambler. 

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As I said today gamblers keep records for a variety of reasons, so expect it to provoke everyone to unreasonable actions such as trying to win back past losses is not quite right. Many gamblers play gambling for fun and records are kept only for personal statistics. All of us are completely different and each of us has completely different views on this or that action.

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October 31, 2023, 04:36:00 AM
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As I said today gamblers keep records for a variety of reasons, so expect it to provoke everyone to unreasonable actions such as trying to win back past losses is not quite right. Many gamblers play gambling for fun and records are kept only for personal statistics. All of us are completely different and each of us has completely different views on this or that action.

Yeah, it can definitely remove the fun part if you are constantly logging every single interaction you had with the casino.

Being a bit reckless also is more fun than acting like an accountant  Grin

At the end of the day you should have a rough idea of how much you are losing in casinos. If it is too much, you should have a look at it. That's all.

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October 31, 2023, 08:09:02 AM
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Keeping records of your wins and losses will only bring depression to you especially the ones you lost, I won't advise you to start keeping records of your gambling history. Is best you gamble and forget everything about it or better still be thinking about the winning you had in the past to make you feel less depressed but outside from that, is a no no to keep records of your loss and win.
I actually agree with that. I believe that a person tends to become sad only when they remember something tragic that happened in their life, but if they don't remember it and there is nothing around them that reminds them of that, they won't get sad. The same thing applies to gambling, if you keep a record only to see how much money you have lost at the end of the year, you will surely feel very bad since the amount will obviously be significant.

A person who might have lost a large amount of money within a specific period of time will surely feel very bad about that once they check the records. After checking the records, all of a sudden, they will start thinking about the things they could do with that money if they hadn't lost it in gambling.

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I will honestly never get tired of saying that self-control and some limits are the first things that every gambler must have, and if they ignore this then don't be surprised when defeat always dominates you, as you said the more definite impact is that they will quickly enter the stage of addiction, In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you're going to want to make sure that you've got a good idea of what you're going to be doing. Checking the amount of defeat that turns out to be greater than the victory, it is also very likely to make them upset so that they continue to gamble to restore the amount of defeat, even though it is not recommended because obviously they will waste time and money and what happens is that the amount of defeat is even greater.

Checking gambling records in my opinion can make people aware and better and also vice versa, as discussed above it can also make them even more upset because it turns out that the amount of loss is greater, and I think for the problem of awareness it depends on each individual in reacting to it. I think privacy will only make it more difficult for them to get out of the zone, because how can people help them if they don't tell their problems.
I would also say the same thing as you because after all, self-control plays a role in preventing us from experiencing a lot of losses so that we will not sink deeper into gambling. We have to overcome and avoid problems that will arise and this has been experienced by many people who often gamble. If we don't want to experience the same thing as them, we really have to learn better control so that it can protect us while we gamble and after we finish gambling, we won't experience a lot of losses or want to recover from those losses. If we lose, there will be a feeling of wanting to recover from that loss, but if we have good self-control, we will not try to recover because it will be difficult for us. We will lose more and more and that means we will lose more and more money.

As long as the person is aware and willing to admit that he has used a lot of money just for gambling and is willing to reduce his use of money, he can really reduce his gambling activities so as not to experience more and more losses. But it all depends on each person's wishes because we can suggest something like that but if the person doesn't want to do it and thinks that he is still okay when looking at the gambling records, that's up to them. The important thing is that we should always limit ourselves and if we think having a gambling record is good for us, we can create one. But if not, we don't need to create it.

Yes, there is basically no other method as a preventive measure except self-control and some restrictions, that's it, it looks quite easy but I'm sure almost all gamblers find it difficult to apply this method. The biggest risk they can face is addiction, honestly I'm not sure if you or they can survive in such conditions, because addiction will always be the worst point for someone in gambling. I'm sure everyone doesn't want to get into the addiction zone but on the other hand they always focus on chasing victory, even though that mindset is always your starting point for addiction. So the point is if they know about the concept of luck then I'm sure they won't act like that, because no matter how often you try, if in the end you are unlucky, you will lose again. So it's also important to understand what luck means and how it works. It is very important to understand so that when you experience defeat you will not continue to chase victory.

But that awareness must also really come out of his conscience by understanding the concept of luck, because it is not uncommon for them to just say it but not really realize and the next day it's like that again. Yes, of course it will return to each individual in his awareness, the point is I hope they understand the concept of luck.

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October 31, 2023, 09:32:11 AM
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A person who might have lost a large amount of money within a specific period of time will surely feel very bad about that once they check the records. After checking the records, all of a sudden, they will start thinking about the things they could do with that money if they hadn't lost it in gambling.
Yes, those notes will add to the pain and regret that will never end. As long as there are still notes, there will always be a feeling of anxiety because you imagine that the money you lost could have been used to buy a house but was spent on gambling, that's why it's not really recommended to record anything because I don't think so. is too important and doesn't even guarantee that it can make us stop gambling too.

If there is something positive that can result from the record, there is no problem, but most of it will probably only have an impact on mental health, you should never do it, although it all comes back to each individual thing, personally, maybe I never recorded all my gambling history because I I consider the gambling that I have done so far only for entertainment, not to make money and every loss I experience, I do not consider it as a loss of money.

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October 31, 2023, 11:00:59 AM
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As I said today gamblers keep records for a variety of reasons, so expect it to provoke everyone to unreasonable actions such as trying to win back past losses is not quite right. Many gamblers play gambling for fun and records are kept only for personal statistics. All of us are completely different and each of us has completely different views on this or that action.

Yeah, it can definitely remove the fun part if you are constantly logging every single interaction you had with the casino.

Being a bit reckless also is more fun than acting like an accountant  Grin

At the end of the day you should have a rough idea of how much you are losing in casinos. If it is too much, you should have a look at it. That's all.

Exactly, if you are keeping your records, chances that you may chase those losses will put you in the negative spot, as once you chase those amount
you will be forced to add more with your bankroll and if luck will not be with you, those money will be an addition to your losses.

You need to re-assess your goal as if you are in this venue and you are aiming to have some fun. You can treat the amount of money as payment
for that entertainment and you can quit without any regrets.

But if you are aiming for money, that's another different side of gambling. It's more about your knowledge and skills.
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October 31, 2023, 01:24:15 PM
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As I said today gamblers keep records for a variety of reasons, so expect it to provoke everyone to unreasonable actions such as trying to win back past losses is not quite right. Many gamblers play gambling for fun and records are kept only for personal statistics. All of us are completely different and each of us has completely different views on this or that action.

Yeah, it can definitely remove the fun part if you are constantly logging every single interaction you had with the casino.

Being a bit reckless also is more fun than acting like an accountant 

At the end of the day you should have a rough idea of how much you are losing in casinos. If it is too much, you should have a look at it. That's all.
Being reckless can't in any way help, it's better to be responsible and also keep the record as much as you can't. I'm sure that this is not burdensome in any way, and if you are doing well you will naturally know and if you are not doing well you will know as well. These two would now give the judgemental clue on how to approach the gambling afterwards. The good record and consciousness I keep with my betting make me now gamble more money on sportsbooks than on casinos.

Do you know why? This is because I was able to know and admit my weaknesses and strengths in the two. This is why nowadays I gamble in casinos for fun and use a little money for it. But I gamble sports for the real deal and use a substantial amount for it.

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October 31, 2023, 01:36:07 PM
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Do you know why? This is because I was able to know and admit my weaknesses and strengths in the two. This is why nowadays I gamble in casinos for fun and use a little money for it. But I gamble sports for the real deal and use a substantial amount for it.

I share your sentiment because I, too, believe that sports betting provides a better chance of winning, allowing for larger wagers. It's not accurate to claim that no one can win in gambling or that everyone loses in the long run. Such sayings often come from individuals who have had unfavorable experiences. It's essential to have a positive mindset because if we start thinking that we'll lose from the beginning, there's no point in gambling, as we won't experience the excitement we seek.

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November 01, 2023, 03:13:59 AM
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Being reckless can't in any way help, it's better to be responsible and also keep the record as much as you can't. I'm sure that this is not burdensome in any way, and if you are doing well you will naturally know and if you are not doing well you will know as well. These two would now give the judgemental clue on how to approach the gambling afterwards. The good record and consciousness I keep with my betting make me now gamble more money on sportsbooks than on casinos.

Do you know why? This is because I was able to know and admit my weaknesses and strengths in the two. This is why nowadays I gamble in casinos for fun and use a little money for it. But I gamble sports for the real deal and use a substantial amount for it.

Well, if you really make all the calculations and consider the expected return of investing of gambling, then no one would gamble because the result is negative.

Every single gambler actually has to be a bit reckless to gamble, because it is known that the odds are against them.

If they still gamble knowing that fact, then that's being at least a bit reckless.

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Yes, there is basically no other method as a preventive measure except self-control and some restrictions, that's it, it looks quite easy but I'm sure almost all gamblers find it difficult to apply this method. The biggest risk they can face is addiction, honestly I'm not sure if you or they can survive in such conditions, because addiction will always be the worst point for someone in gambling. I'm sure everyone doesn't want to get into the addiction zone but on the other hand they always focus on chasing victory, even though that mindset is always your starting point for addiction. So the point is if they know about the concept of luck then I'm sure they won't act like that, because no matter how often you try, if in the end you are unlucky, you will lose again. So it's also important to understand what luck means and how it works. It is very important to understand so that when you experience defeat you will not continue to chase victory.

But that awareness must also really come out of his conscience by understanding the concept of luck, because it is not uncommon for them to just say it but not really realize and the next day it's like that again. Yes, of course it will return to each individual in his awareness, the point is I hope they understand the concept of luck.
If having this record can make them reduce their gambling activities, they shouldn't need to worry about anything. They can prevent them from gambling continuously because they have good self-control so they can limit themselves. But some gamblers don't have a gambling record and they are still doing well now because they can be disciplined in gambling and don't pursue anything except just wanting entertainment from gambling. They also never think about chasing victory if they manage to win, whatever the amount because they know it is difficult so they would rather accept whatever the winning amount is. They also know that gambling requires luck, so if they lose because they don't have luck, they won't continue gambling because that will only make them lose more.

And that's the point of having discipline in gambling so that we are not influenced by anything we see from gambling. Additionally, for gambling records, it will depend on each gambler. If they are comfortable seeing the number of wins and losses, they can keep a gambling record. But if not, they also don't need to keep a record of their gambling.

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November 01, 2023, 08:01:22 AM
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Yes, there is basically no other method as a preventive measure except self-control and some restrictions, that's it, it looks quite easy but I'm sure almost all gamblers find it difficult to apply this method. The biggest risk they can face is addiction, honestly I'm not sure if you or they can survive in such conditions, because addiction will always be the worst point for someone in gambling. I'm sure everyone doesn't want to get into the addiction zone but on the other hand they always focus on chasing victory, even though that mindset is always your starting point for addiction. So the point is if they know about the concept of luck then I'm sure they won't act like that, because no matter how often you try, if in the end you are unlucky, you will lose again. So it's also important to understand what luck means and how it works. It is very important to understand so that when you experience defeat you will not continue to chase victory.

But that awareness must also really come out of his conscience by understanding the concept of luck, because it is not uncommon for them to just say it but not really realize and the next day it's like that again. Yes, of course it will return to each individual in his awareness, the point is I hope they understand the concept of luck.
If having this record can make them reduce their gambling activities, they shouldn't need to worry about anything. They can prevent them from gambling continuously because they have good self-control so they can limit themselves. But some gamblers don't have a gambling record and they are still doing well now because they can be disciplined in gambling and don't pursue anything except just wanting entertainment from gambling. They also never think about chasing victory if they manage to win, whatever the amount because they know it is difficult so they would rather accept whatever the winning amount is. They also know that gambling requires luck, so if they lose because they don't have luck, they won't continue gambling because that will only make them lose more.

And that's the point of having discipline in gambling so that we are not influenced by anything we see from gambling. Additionally, for gambling records, it will depend on each gambler. If they are comfortable seeing the number of wins and losses, they can keep a gambling record. But if not, they also don't need to keep a record of their gambling.

Yes but that is still uncertain, because it is not necessarily that just by looking at the records they can reduce their gambling because they see a much larger number of losses. As I said before the record can make someone do two things, first yes maybe they realize and reduce it because they don't want to get worse and secondly you have also said that it is very possible that by looking at the record they do not accept when they see the amount of defeat is much bigger then they will get emotional and continue to gamble by applying greed to catch up with the defeat in the previous time. I think it depends on the perspective of each individual, I can't say that for sure because only they know what's best for themselves. Hopefully there are some who look at this topic and they actually consider our conversation about what luck is and how it works.

By understanding all the ways luck works in gambling then I'm sure there's no reason for them to act greedy, because obviously there are no guarantees and certainties out there, so it's better to reconsider everything you're going to do in gambling. Yes, of course, and by understanding what is meant by luck, it is clear that they will not be affected by every temptation that comes.

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November 01, 2023, 10:23:17 AM
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Do you know why? This is because I was able to know and admit my weaknesses and strengths in the two. This is why nowadays I gamble in casinos for fun and use a little money for it. But I gamble sports for the real deal and use a substantial amount for it.

I share your sentiment because I, too, believe that sports betting provides a better chance of winning, allowing for larger wagers. It's not accurate to claim that no one can win in gambling or that everyone loses in the long run. Such sayings often come from individuals who have had unfavorable experiences. It's essential to have a positive mindset because if we start thinking that we'll lose from the beginning, there's no point in gambling, as we won't experience the excitement we seek.
I agree with your statement. In gambling we only discuss its negative sites but there are positive aspects as well. Does everyone just lose and no one wins? Many are winning big bets but they are not being disclosed. We can never tell who will lose and who will win in gambling. Since there is a matter of luck in gambling. Sports bettors can bet as per their wish. There is no one to blame if the result is everyone's loss. Because even if he loses, many people are winning there. There is always win and loss in gambling so don't prioritize only one aspect.

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November 01, 2023, 01:15:21 PM
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I agree with your statement. In gambling we only discuss its negative sites but there are positive aspects as well. Does everyone just lose and no one wins? Many are winning big bets but they are not being disclosed. We can never tell who will lose and who will win in gambling. Since there is a matter of luck in gambling. Sports bettors can bet as per their wish. There is no one to blame if the result is everyone's loss. Because even if he loses, many people are winning there. There is always win and loss in gambling so don't prioritize only one aspect.

I beg to differ.

There are many times that people highlight only the benefits of gambling but not its consequences. This is evidently seen on campaigns and advertisements. Most campaigns and ads only showcase the positive effects of gambling such as winning a huge amount by only having a small capital, playing a non-complex games to win a good amount, and many more enticing offers to lure you into making an account, depositing, and eventually playing and betting. While it is the players' due diligence to conduct a research first before taking a step, most of the times these ads are blinding and tempting so much. Adding the fact that nowadays famous personalities promotes it too without educating their audience about the pros and cons. There are even posts that sounds motivating to bet because they only write what worked out best for them and not the challenging part.

In gambling, everyone has the chance to win or lose. But players or potential players must be first made aware about the positive effects in engaging into it. Do not be a devil's advocate to tell them to just push through without thinking thrice. It's still better to gamble with proper knowledge so that you won't regret and point fingers when things go haywire.
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November 01, 2023, 01:21:39 PM
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Do you know why? This is because I was able to know and admit my weaknesses and strengths in the two. This is why nowadays I gamble in casinos for fun and use a little money for it. But I gamble sports for the real deal and use a substantial amount for it.

I share your sentiment because I, too, believe that sports betting provides a better chance of winning, allowing for larger wagers. It's not accurate to claim that no one can win in gambling or that everyone loses in the long run. Such sayings often come from individuals who have had unfavorable experiences. It's essential to have a positive mindset because if we start thinking that we'll lose from the beginning, there's no point in gambling, as we won't experience the excitement we seek.
I agree with your statement. In gambling we only discuss its negative sites but there are positive aspects as well. Does everyone just lose and no one wins? Many are winning big bets but they are not being disclosed. We can never tell who will lose and who will win in gambling. Since there is a matter of luck in gambling. Sports bettors can bet as per their wish. There is no one to blame if the result is everyone's loss. Because even if he loses, many people are winning there. There is always win and loss in gambling so don't prioritize only one aspect.

Of course, a lot of players win on bets. At the same time, it can be a huge profit, I recently watched an interview with a person who guessed 8 out of 10 bets at the start of his gambling career. His express trains brought him a lot of money. Obviously, this is not a stupid guy, he has two higher educations, one of them is economic. But his desire to become independent of his father's money did something bad to him: when he began a black streak, he began to double his bets, trying to recoup, and he owed 20k dollars in the end.

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November 01, 2023, 02:59:56 PM
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Do you know why? This is because I was able to know and admit my weaknesses and strengths in the two. This is why nowadays I gamble in casinos for fun and use a little money for it. But I gamble sports for the real deal and use a substantial amount for it.

I share your sentiment because I, too, believe that sports betting provides a better chance of winning, allowing for larger wagers. It's not accurate to claim that no one can win in gambling or that everyone loses in the long run. Such sayings often come from individuals who have had unfavorable experiences. It's essential to have a positive mindset because if we start thinking that we'll lose from the beginning, there's no point in gambling, as we won't experience the excitement we seek.
I agree with your statement. In gambling we only discuss its negative sites but there are positive aspects as well. Does everyone just lose and no one wins? Many are winning big bets but they are not being disclosed. We can never tell who will lose and who will win in gambling. Since there is a matter of luck in gambling. Sports bettors can bet as per their wish. There is no one to blame if the result is everyone's loss. Because even if he loses, many people are winning there. There is always win and loss in gambling so don't prioritize only one aspect.

Yes it's true that I'm also quite tired of discussing the negative impact of gambling even though it is a true fact, but let's take a little bit to see what is in the positive side of gambling. Honestly I can't say that everyone always loses, it's pretty hard to say that out of all the people who play whether they win or lose, it's out of my control. But yes I wouldn't say "all" and maybe I would say that one of them will definitely be able to get a win, whether it's the easy way or the hard way. Of course it's very difficult to distinguish or just find an indication of who will win, because obviously gambling goes with the concept of luck about the final result. If you ask about the overall result of how many people win and how many people lose it is very difficult to know and even just for just a prediction it is still quite difficult.

The point is that in luck-based gambling, there will be winners and losers at the same time, everything will run randomly, so it is only natural that before playing we always hope that we are one of the lucky ones at that time by winning.

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November 01, 2023, 03:11:53 PM
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Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
Well, I don't care what other users might have said as an answer to this question, but what I have to say here is that, not keeping a record as a gambler does not make you or anyone else a bad gambler, as long as you are gambling within your limit, that is, you don't over gamble to the extent that it places a financial burden on you, or puts you into financial problems that ordinarily shouldn't be.

Keeping gambling records has two sides, there is the good, the advantage side and the bad, the disadvantage side.

I personally believe that we all already know the good side of keeping gambling records, but many of us may not know the bad side of doing the same even though it's very simple.

One of the bad sides of keeping gambling record is that, it may come back to hurt you very deeply.
Imagine going through hard times and then one day, you pick up your gambling records to check how much you have spent gambling, you realize that you have spent tens of thousands of dollars gambling and have not even won half or quarter to half of that back, you begin to imagine what better things you would have done with that money other than gambling, this can break you, make you feel bad as you begin to feel like you have money to do something better but wasted it on gambling, it can affect one's self esteem.

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November 02, 2023, 12:17:26 AM
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In gambling, everyone has the chance to win or lose. But players or potential players must be first made aware about the positive effects in engaging into it. Do not be a devil's advocate to tell them to just push through without thinking thrice. It's still better to gamble with proper knowledge so that you won't regret and point fingers when things go haywire.

Yeah, you are right, mate. Like I always say, when I started gambling, I once thought it's something that you can just predict and it goes as predicted. After betting on the game, I keep hope alive that the game must win. Sometimes I even calculate how I will spend the money that I am yet to win. Later, I learned how to make predictions and how to control my enthusiasm (don't be too excited when you have not yet won the bet you made, and don't only think about the wins; also have it in the back of your mind that the game can bust). I realized all that as I became more experienced. In essence, it's wise that a player first gain proper knowledge about gambling before engaging themselves in it. Like you said in your first paragraph, if one only looks at the misleading advertisements that some casinos make, they will feel tempted to bet, knowing that all they are doing is grabbing your attention.

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November 02, 2023, 05:39:46 AM
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In gambling, everyone has the chance to win or lose. But players or potential players must be first made aware about the positive effects in engaging into it. Do not be a devil's advocate to tell them to just push through without thinking thrice. It's still better to gamble with proper knowledge so that you won't regret and point fingers when things go haywire.

Yeah, you are right, mate. Like I always say, when I started gambling, I once thought it's something that you can just predict and it goes as predicted. After betting on the game, I keep hope alive that the game must win. Sometimes I even calculate how I will spend the money that I am yet to win. Later, I learned how to make predictions and how to control my enthusiasm (don't be too excited when you have not yet won the bet you made, and don't only think about the wins; also have it in the back of your mind that the game can bust). I realized all that as I became more experienced. In essence, it's wise that a player first gain proper knowledge about gambling before engaging themselves in it. Like you said in your first paragraph, if one only looks at the misleading advertisements that some casinos make, they will feel tempted to bet, knowing that all they are doing is grabbing your attention.
I can say you really followed the different stages of maturity in gambling and it is good to know you were not discouraged along the line. Being a gambler comes with its unique challenges and in overcoming them lies the success that we all aspire. I also had high expectations when I started, thinking I could just hit this thing and life will become so sweet. Little did I know it was a long journey and not a quick fix.
Now I'm more diligent, focus and meticulous about my gambling and I keep record of every step including amount I put in and what I'm getting out per week and month. I treat my gambling differently now and I love the results so far.

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November 02, 2023, 05:56:30 AM
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Yes but that is still uncertain, because it is not necessarily that just by looking at the records they can reduce their gambling because they see a much larger number of losses. As I said before the record can make someone do two things, first yes maybe they realize and reduce it because they don't want to get worse and secondly you have also said that it is very possible that by looking at the record they do not accept when they see the amount of defeat is much bigger then they will get emotional and continue to gamble by applying greed to catch up with the defeat in the previous time. I think it depends on the perspective of each individual, I can't say that for sure because only they know what's best for themselves. Hopefully there are some who look at this topic and they actually consider our conversation about what luck is and how it works.

By understanding all the ways luck works in gambling then I'm sure there's no reason for them to act greedy, because obviously there are no guarantees and certainties out there, so it's better to reconsider everything you're going to do in gambling. Yes, of course, and by understanding what is meant by luck, it is clear that they will not be affected by every temptation that comes.
Yes, it's not necessarily because it depends on each gambler. After all, some will be fine after paying attention to their gambling records, but there will also be those who will have the desire to try to recover their losses. It is best if they are willing to start reducing their gambling activities so that it will also reduce the amount of losses. But I hope that those who visit this thread and want to read about it can consider it and want to try it for their own good because everything can change so that it can be even better. Having a gambling record can be a limitation for someone so they don't gamble too much.

You are right because by understanding everything, they can control their greed and because there is no guarantee of winning from gambling, they will realize that they will not get a bigger chance of winning. From their gambling records, they can see the number of wins and losses and think about not using more money in gambling. They will also learn to resist this temptation so that it does not influence them to continue gambling.

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November 02, 2023, 12:21:01 PM
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Yes but that is still uncertain, because it is not necessarily that just by looking at the records they can reduce their gambling because they see a much larger number of losses. As I said before the record can make someone do two things, first yes maybe they realize and reduce it because they don't want to get worse and secondly you have also said that it is very possible that by looking at the record they do not accept when they see the amount of defeat is much bigger then they will get emotional and continue to gamble by applying greed to catch up with the defeat in the previous time. I think it depends on the perspective of each individual, I can't say that for sure because only they know what's best for themselves. Hopefully there are some who look at this topic and they actually consider our conversation about what luck is and how it works.

By understanding all the ways luck works in gambling then I'm sure there's no reason for them to act greedy, because obviously there are no guarantees and certainties out there, so it's better to reconsider everything you're going to do in gambling. Yes, of course, and by understanding what is meant by luck, it is clear that they will not be affected by every temptation that comes.
Yes, it's not necessarily because it depends on each gambler. After all, some will be fine after paying attention to their gambling records, but there will also be those who will have the desire to try to recover their losses. It is best if they are willing to start reducing their gambling activities so that it will also reduce the amount of losses. But I hope that those who visit this thread and want to read about it can consider it and want to try it for their own good because everything can change so that it can be even better. Having a gambling record can be a limitation for someone so they don't gamble too much.

You are right because by understanding everything, they can control their greed and because there is no guarantee of winning from gambling, they will realize that they will not get a bigger chance of winning. From their gambling records, they can see the number of wins and losses and think about not using more money in gambling. They will also learn to resist this temptation so that it does not influence them to continue gambling.

Well basically maybe like you said it depends on each individual in response to his record, whether they will try to return the loss or vice versa by acting more carefully to reduce the number of losses along with always taking precautions. And on the other hand this problem is really beyond our control, maybe I hope they can read our discussion, nothing but just to be taken into consideration so that their gambling involvement does not get worse in the future.

If they are completely familiar with gambling along with luck then yes as I said before there is no reason at all to put greed in their gambling, because I'm sure they will worry if the final result is not in accordance with what they expect. So with this they will be able to apply the statement that "it is better to prevent than to cure" and also yes maybe they won't be

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November 03, 2023, 08:23:03 AM
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Well basically maybe like you said it depends on each individual in response to his record, whether they will try to return the loss or vice versa by acting more carefully to reduce the number of losses along with always taking precautions. And on the other hand this problem is really beyond our control, maybe I hope they can read our discussion, nothing but just to be taken into consideration so that their gambling involvement does not get worse in the future.

If they are completely familiar with gambling along with luck then yes as I said before there is no reason at all to put greed in their gambling, because I'm sure they will worry if the final result is not in accordance with what they expect. So with this they will be able to apply the statement that "it is better to prevent than to cure" and also yes maybe they won't be
By being careful, we can see what will have a good and bad impact on our lives, so if we see that gambling has a bad impact on us, it is better for us to avoid it and start gambling less. It will also affect our gambling records if we record them so that we can see any changes in our lives, especially in the use of money for gambling. We ourselves must reduce our involvement in gambling so that later, we will not experience regret when we see that we have used too much money to gamble. We also better regulate the use of money or the allocation of money that should be used for gambling. We will not try to deposit more because that will potentially increase the amount of losses we will incur from gambling.

We also will not be easily tempted by greed which will continue to tell us to continue gambling because we will only use gambling as entertainment. And it's true what you say that "prevention is better than cure" because if we already have a gambling problem, it won't be easy to treat it.

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November 03, 2023, 11:50:24 AM
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Well basically maybe like you said it depends on each individual in response to his record, whether they will try to return the loss or vice versa by acting more carefully to reduce the number of losses along with always taking precautions. And on the other hand this problem is really beyond our control, maybe I hope they can read our discussion, nothing but just to be taken into consideration so that their gambling involvement does not get worse in the future.

If they are completely familiar with gambling along with luck then yes as I said before there is no reason at all to put greed in their gambling, because I'm sure they will worry if the final result is not in accordance with what they expect. So with this they will be able to apply the statement that "it is better to prevent than to cure" and also yes maybe they won't be
By being careful, we can see what will have a good and bad impact on our lives, so if we see that gambling has a bad impact on us, it is better for us to avoid it and start gambling less. It will also affect our gambling records if we record them so that we can see any changes in our lives, especially in the use of money for gambling. We ourselves must reduce our involvement in gambling so that later, we will not experience regret when we see that we have used too much money to gamble. We also better regulate the use of money or the allocation of money that should be used for gambling. We will not try to deposit more because that will potentially increase the amount of losses we will incur from gambling.

We also will not be easily tempted by greed which will continue to tell us to continue gambling because we will only use gambling as entertainment. And it's true what you say that "prevention is better than cure" because if we already have a gambling problem, it won't be easy to treat it.

And only they themselves can see it because they can feel whether the impact is good or bad on their lives, I will not say that the percentage of good impact is greater than the bad impact because obviously this is gambling which is mostly like what has happened a lot that if you are too serious in gambling then obviously the bad impact will always accompany you, and vice versa if they are not excessive in their gambling approach then the risks they will face will also definitely be smaller, everything will be balanced and depends on their intentions and point of view of coming to the gambling.

Of course for this kind of problem is beyond our control, because only they themselves know what they should do, I think if they come with no exaggeration then they will also be able to take some precautions as we have discussed here, one of which yes you have repeated my statement that "prevention is better than cure", this statement will always be useful in any case including in your life outside of gambling.

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November 03, 2023, 11:57:04 AM
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I don’t keep records of my gambling stats, I’m too lazy to be honest and I gamble for fun, to make games and tournaments more interesting. I am not gambling in desperation for additional income.

It’s all a matter of personal choice, there is no right or wrong. The only thing to remember is to practise responsible gambling. Don’t bet more than you can afford to lose.

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November 03, 2023, 05:04:11 PM
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Well basically maybe like you said it depends on each individual in response to his record, whether they will try to return the loss or vice versa by acting more carefully to reduce the number of losses along with always taking precautions. And on the other hand this problem is really beyond our control, maybe I hope they can read our discussion, nothing but just to be taken into consideration so that their gambling involvement does not get worse in the future.

If they are completely familiar with gambling along with luck then yes as I said before there is no reason at all to put greed in their gambling, because I'm sure they will worry if the final result is not in accordance with what they expect. So with this they will be able to apply the statement that "it is better to prevent than to cure" and also yes maybe they won't be
By being careful, we can see what will have a good and bad impact on our lives, so if we see that gambling has a bad impact on us, it is better for us to avoid it and start gambling less. It will also affect our gambling records if we record them so that we can see any changes in our lives, especially in the use of money for gambling. We ourselves must reduce our involvement in gambling so that later, we will not experience regret when we see that we have used too much money to gamble. We also better regulate the use of money or the allocation of money that should be used for gambling. We will not try to deposit more because that will potentially increase the amount of losses we will incur from gambling.

We also will not be easily tempted by greed which will continue to tell us to continue gambling because we will only use gambling as entertainment. And it's true what you say that "prevention is better than cure" because if we already have a gambling problem, it won't be easy to treat it.

And only they themselves can see it because they can feel whether the impact is good or bad on their lives, I will not say that the percentage of good impact is greater than the bad impact because obviously this is gambling which is mostly like what has happened a lot that if you are too serious in gambling then obviously the bad impact will always accompany you, and vice versa if they are not excessive in their gambling approach then the risks they will face will also definitely be smaller, everything will be balanced and depends on their intentions and point of view of coming to the gambling.

Of course for this kind of problem is beyond our control, because only they themselves know what they should do, I think if they come with no exaggeration then they will also be able to take some precautions as we have discussed here, one of which yes you have repeated my statement that "prevention is better than cure", this statement will always be useful in any case including in your life outside of gambling.
Gambling has a big effect on people, and only those people can really say how it has changed their lives. Lucky numbers are involved, and the stakes are very high. Their actions will determine whether the effect is good or bad. If they take the risks and bad effects too seriously or spend too much, they can be too much to handle. But the risks can be kept to a minimum if they are careful

A timeless truth that applies to all parts of life, not just gaming, is that prevention is better than cure. You need to be smart, careful, and aware of when to back off. To play safely, you need to understand the game and be aware of the risks. Being in charge, taking responsibility, and making smart choices are important. Finding a balance and making sure the effect is more positive than bad is important. Only they can really do it; it's a delicate dance and a careful balancing act. So, yes, everything will be fair, but it depends on what they want and how they see things

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And only they themselves can see it because they can feel whether the impact is good or bad on their lives, I will not say that the percentage of good impact is greater than the bad impact because obviously this is gambling which is mostly like what has happened a lot that if you are too serious in gambling then obviously the bad impact will always accompany you, and vice versa if they are not excessive in their gambling approach then the risks they will face will also definitely be smaller, everything will be balanced and depends on their intentions and point of view of coming to the gambling.

Of course for this kind of problem is beyond our control, because only they themselves know what they should do, I think if they come with no exaggeration then they will also be able to take some precautions as we have discussed here, one of which yes you have repeated my statement that "prevention is better than cure", this statement will always be useful in any case including in your life outside of gambling.
However, someone who has started gambling but does not have self-control can fall deeper into gambling and they will experience the bad effects that are greater than the good effects. But maybe they won't see the bad effects getting bigger because they have fun gambling and gamble more often because of the fun factor they get. In gambling, if they cannot take care of themselves, they will experience the bad effects of gambling and when it gets bigger, it is only a matter of time until they finally experience bigger losses. The risk of losing money will also be greater than they imagine because more losses will make them lose more money.

They should be able to realize it before it's too late so they can start reducing their gambling activities because otherwise, it will get bigger. They will be too late to reduce their gambling activities because they will get deeper into gambling. It is better to prevent it before it happens than to treat it, which will be much more difficult because our thoughts will be difficult to change, especially if we are already addicted to gambling. It will require even harder efforts to make us realize that we have made a fatal mistake in this life.

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November 04, 2023, 10:59:47 AM
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And only they themselves can see it because they can feel whether the impact is good or bad on their lives, I will not say that the percentage of good impact is greater than the bad impact because obviously this is gambling which is mostly like what has happened a lot that if you are too serious in gambling then obviously the bad impact will always accompany you, and vice versa if they are not excessive in their gambling approach then the risks they will face will also definitely be smaller, everything will be balanced and depends on their intentions and point of view of coming to the gambling.

Of course for this kind of problem is beyond our control, because only they themselves know what they should do, I think if they come with no exaggeration then they will also be able to take some precautions as we have discussed here, one of which yes you have repeated my statement that "prevention is better than cure", this statement will always be useful in any case including in your life outside of gambling.
Gambling has a big effect on people, and only those people can really say how it has changed their lives. Lucky numbers are involved, and the stakes are very high. Their actions will determine whether the effect is good or bad. If they take the risks and bad effects too seriously or spend too much, they can be too much to handle. But the risks can be kept to a minimum if they are careful

A timeless truth that applies to all parts of life, not just gaming, is that prevention is better than cure. You need to be smart, careful, and aware of when to back off. To play safely, you need to understand the game and be aware of the risks. Being in charge, taking responsibility, and making smart choices are important. Finding a balance and making sure the effect is more positive than bad is important. Only they can really do it; it's a delicate dance and a careful balancing act. So, yes, everything will be fair, but it depends on what they want and how they see things

Yes as I said above gambling will indeed have a huge impact on a person's life especially in terms of their finances, and of course as you said that who will know whether they are experiencing good or bad impacts it depends on what they feel during their gambling involvement, if indeed they feel that they are experiencing a lot of financial difficulties when they are involved in gambling then they should think about stopping or just reducing it. I understand that it is quite difficult but time will tell if they try various actions to realize their dream of quitting, and if they have no problems at all, of course it is up to them whether they will continue their involvement or quit. Ultimately it's up to them, and I think they can make an informed judgment about what to do there, because obviously other people are never going to care about the difficulties they face.

In any case, whether in gambling or in your real life prevention will always be the best thing to do, I'm sure they know about what to do, so when this gambling is very bad and causes a lot of problems then they must take some preventive actions to minimize all unexpected possibilities that are not wanted. Understanding what they are doing before finally jumping in is the main thing, and realizing what the positive and negative impacts of these activities are also very important, if the negative impact is far greater than the positive then obviously I think there is no reason for anyone not to take precautions against it, because there is no way if he does not know what is best for himself. And also yes you have to be responsible for whatever you have done, so look at it from various sides first, consider before you make a decision.

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November 05, 2023, 06:26:50 PM
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I don’t keep records of my gambling stats, I’m too lazy to be honest and I gamble for fun, to make games and tournaments more interesting. I am not gambling in desperation for additional income.

It’s all a matter of personal choice, there is no right or wrong. The only thing to remember is to practise responsible gambling. Don’t bet more than you can afford to lose.
For someone that is just gambling for fun this is not really a problem as you know very well where are your limits and you can stop gambling at any moment, but for those that have plans to attempt to become professional gamblers this is a must, and this is because just a few weeks down the line you will forget about most of the details that led you to take a bet, but if you take records and even write down the reason why you took the bet then you can evaluate yourself and correct any mistakes you may have made at the time.

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November 06, 2023, 12:02:49 AM
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Do you know why? This is because I was able to know and admit my weaknesses and strengths in the two. This is why nowadays I gamble in casinos for fun and use a little money for it. But I gamble sports for the real deal and use a substantial amount for it.

I share your sentiment because I, too, believe that sports betting provides a better chance of winning, allowing for larger wagers. It's not accurate to claim that no one can win in gambling or that everyone loses in the long run. Such sayings often come from individuals who have had unfavorable experiences. It's essential to have a positive mindset because if we start thinking that we'll lose from the beginning, there's no point in gambling, as we won't experience the excitement we seek.
Well, everyone has their own way of thinking and that is respectable. When we do different types of activities, we can say that they can happen, but what happens if we are not up to the task of doing them well? in a caisno when we play roulette or anything, well we have to give our best, because basically what we can do is play slots, roulette, anything that is a game well yes, but when we are Thinking about what they can do when they are in front of a slot with little money is that it can be multiplied a lot and that is something that many people here in the forum are looking for, the truth is I don't understand how they can do it, but there are some who always look to get there and don't. They can, because the slot system is quite strong, and I think that when it has to do with setting things up to win it is mere luck, because everything has to do with chasing profits, so it is something that the maurpipa look for.

Now when it comes to sports betting, but it is something else, there is no way that greater prospects can be generated to have greater comfort, I am someone who sees sports betting and trading almost on the same page, but why? ? because basically in the latency things have to be done thinking, every move that is made is because it has been carefully studied, be it by technical analysis, by functional analysis or whatever, in sports betting there is a lot of responsibility for the fact of having been in an environment of knowing the sport well, in knowing how to do things better based on knowledge, then that is where the secret of this is, when we win money in sports betting by applying our knowledge it is when we demonstrate that things They tend to be done well because money is won by what you know, not by what you do, because anyone can make a bet, but knowing what the bet is is what you should bet to win.

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November 06, 2023, 07:13:14 AM
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And only they themselves can see it because they can feel whether the impact is good or bad on their lives, I will not say that the percentage of good impact is greater than the bad impact because obviously this is gambling which is mostly like what has happened a lot that if you are too serious in gambling then obviously the bad impact will always accompany you, and vice versa if they are not excessive in their gambling approach then the risks they will face will also definitely be smaller, everything will be balanced and depends on their intentions and point of view of coming to the gambling.

Of course for this kind of problem is beyond our control, because only they themselves know what they should do, I think if they come with no exaggeration then they will also be able to take some precautions as we have discussed here, one of which yes you have repeated my statement that "prevention is better than cure", this statement will always be useful in any case including in your life outside of gambling.
Gambling has a big effect on people, and only those people can really say how it has changed their lives. Lucky numbers are involved, and the stakes are very high. Their actions will determine whether the effect is good or bad. If they take the risks and bad effects too seriously or spend too much, they can be too much to handle. But the risks can be kept to a minimum if they are careful

A timeless truth that applies to all parts of life, not just gaming, is that prevention is better than cure. You need to be smart, careful, and aware of when to back off. To play safely, you need to understand the game and be aware of the risks. Being in charge, taking responsibility, and making smart choices are important. Finding a balance and making sure the effect is more positive than bad is important. Only they can really do it; it's a delicate dance and a careful balancing act. So, yes, everything will be fair, but it depends on what they want and how they see things

Yes as I said above gambling will indeed have a huge impact on a person's life especially in terms of their finances, and of course as you said that who will know whether they are experiencing good or bad impacts it depends on what they feel during their gambling involvement, if indeed they feel that they are experiencing a lot of financial difficulties when they are involved in gambling then they should think about stopping or just reducing it. I understand that it is quite difficult but time will tell if they try various actions to realize their dream of quitting, and if they have no problems at all, of course it is up to them whether they will continue their involvement or quit. Ultimately it's up to them, and I think they can make an informed judgment about what to do there, because obviously other people are never going to care about the difficulties they face.

In any case, whether in gambling or in your real life prevention will always be the best thing to do, I'm sure they know about what to do, so when this gambling is very bad and causes a lot of problems then they must take some preventive actions to minimize all unexpected possibilities that are not wanted. Understanding what they are doing before finally jumping in is the main thing, and realizing what the positive and negative impacts of these activities are also very important, if the negative impact is far greater than the positive then obviously I think there is no reason for anyone not to take precautions against it, because there is no way if he does not know what is best for himself. And also yes you have to be responsible for whatever you have done, so look at it from various sides first, consider before you make a decision.
There are two sides to this issue: the responsibility each person has and the larger social context in which gambling occurs.

In the first place, gambling, like all high-reward activities, appeals to our basic need for quick pleasure. This appeal has only grown thanks to online platforms that make it easy to access and often hide the real effects. A very important question is whether someone is having positive or negative effects. Is it, however, just subjective? Some might say it depends on real things like financial health, while others might say it depends on mental health. These don't contradict each other, which is what makes things complicated.

Prevention is very important. But how does one develop that judgement in a world full of temptations? Even though personal choice and duty are important, we shouldnt ignore the effects of the environment and the pressures of society. If I understand you correctly, what you're really saying is the age-old search for balance. The constant tug-of-war between desire and reason, where short-term pleasure is weighed against long-term security. Making smart choices isn't just a way to show you have self-control; its also a way to protect yourself.

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November 06, 2023, 02:53:08 PM
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I don’t keep records of my gambling stats, I’m too lazy to be honest and I gamble for fun, to make games and tournaments more interesting. I am not gambling in desperation for additional income.

It’s all a matter of personal choice, there is no right or wrong. The only thing to remember is to practise responsible gambling. Don’t bet more than you can afford to lose.
For someone that is just gambling for fun this is not really a problem as you know very well where are your limits and you can stop gambling at any moment, but for those that have plans to attempt to become professional gamblers this is a must, and this is because just a few weeks down the line you will forget about most of the details that led you to take a bet, but if you take records and even write down the reason why you took the bet then you can evaluate yourself and correct any mistakes you may have made at the time.
Every gambler will know how important gambling records are for them, so they will make gambling records or not make them. But we agree that we must practice responsible gambling, especially as we already know that many people lose self-control when gambling, so this must be our main concern to prevent ourselves from experiencing a loss of self-control too.

Perhaps those who record their gambling want to know how much they gambled and how much money they used. But as time goes by, they may not continue to keep a gambling record because they feel there is a burden behind the gambling record when they see that the number of losses is greater than the number of wins. But if they can use their gambling records well, they can be used as material for their consideration and evaluation to be more responsible when gambling.

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November 06, 2023, 04:16:58 PM
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For someone that is just gambling for fun this is not really a problem as you know very well where are your limits and you can stop gambling at any moment, but for those that have plans to attempt to become professional gamblers this is a must, and this is because just a few weeks down the line you will forget about most of the details that led you to take a bet, but if you take records and even write down the reason why you took the bet then you can evaluate yourself and correct any mistakes you may have made at the time.
Every gambler will know how important gambling records are for them, so they will make gambling records or not make them. But we agree that we must practice responsible gambling, especially as we already know that many people lose self-control when gambling, so this must be our main concern to prevent ourselves from experiencing a loss of self-control too.

Perhaps those who record their gambling want to know how much they gambled and how much money they used. But as time goes by, they may not continue to keep a gambling record because they feel there is a burden behind the gambling record when they see that the number of losses is greater than the number of wins. But if they can use their gambling records well, they can be used as material for their consideration and evaluation to be more responsible when gambling.

Quite agree but I wouldn't say that's entirely true, because on the other hand there are still some gamblers who don't really think about their gambling records even though it's very important so that they can know or just measure the extent of their gambling involvement or how much they have lost. Yes having full responsibility for the gambling that we do would be a better thing, because if you are a responsible gambler then I think you also have some precautions that will be applied to your gambling, such as knowing when to come and when to leave, and also in terms of budget usually those who are responsible will prefer to put a small budget because that is the only budget they can accept especially if the final result turns out to be a loss. On the other hand, it is indeed a good action so that we can avoid gambling addiction a little.

True, the purpose of them looking at their gambling records is nothing but to see how much they have lost and won, and I think there are two actions they will take when they see the records, some are getting more excessive because they want to return all their losses and some are getting better because they don't want to lose more. So I think they also know what's best for themselves.

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November 07, 2023, 04:43:12 AM
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Every gambler will know how important gambling records are for them, so they will make gambling records or not make them. But we agree that we must practice responsible gambling, especially as we already know that many people lose self-control when gambling, so this must be our main concern to prevent ourselves from experiencing a loss of self-control too.

Perhaps those who record their gambling want to know how much they gambled and how much money they used. But as time goes by, they may not continue to keep a gambling record because they feel there is a burden behind the gambling record when they see that the number of losses is greater than the number of wins. But if they can use their gambling records well, they can be used as material for their consideration and evaluation to be more responsible when gambling.

I think the main reason most people don't keep records, or they stop keeping records, is that most of the gamblers end up losing. So, who wants to keep track of a negative number getting lower and lower?

It's easier to just reset the whole thing and "start fresh" and see how well you will do this time.

That's what most gamblers winning stories are really. They conveniently forget about their previous losses  Grin

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November 07, 2023, 12:24:44 PM
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Quite agree but I wouldn't say that's entirely true, because on the other hand there are still some gamblers who don't really think about their gambling records even though it's very important so that they can know or just measure the extent of their gambling involvement or how much they have lost. Yes having full responsibility for the gambling that we do would be a better thing, because if you are a responsible gambler then I think you also have some precautions that will be applied to your gambling, such as knowing when to come and when to leave, and also in terms of budget usually those who are responsible will prefer to put a small budget because that is the only budget they can accept especially if the final result turns out to be a loss. On the other hand, it is indeed a good action so that we can avoid gambling addiction a little.

True, the purpose of them looking at their gambling records is nothing but to see how much they have lost and won, and I think there are two actions they will take when they see the records, some are getting more excessive because they want to return all their losses and some are getting better because they don't want to lose more. So I think they also know what's best for themselves.
That's because they have their own reasons for having a gambling record or whether they don't need it. Moreover, they can see their gambling records from their gambling accounts so that it can be a benchmark for how much money they spend on gambling. If they realize that they are using too much of their money, they should start reducing their gambling activities or reducing the amount of bets. But what exists is that there are still many gamblers who do not pay attention to this and instead try to increase the number of bets.

If it becomes too much, they should reduce their gambling, lest they experience problems that could have serious consequences. If they have good self-control, they can ignore this, especially if they have found pleasure in gambling.

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I think the main reason most people don't keep records, or they stop keeping records, is that most of the gamblers end up losing. So, who wants to keep track of a negative number getting lower and lower?

It's easier to just reset the whole thing and "start fresh" and see how well you will do this time.

That's what most gamblers winning stories are really. They conveniently forget about their previous losses  Grin
Yes, that's true, especially if they lose very often. They will become frustrated when they see their losing numbers, and they tend to try to recover their losses by continuing to gamble. It might be better if they stop their gambling activities for some time and reset everything so they can start all over again. But this time, they must be truly disciplined in managing their time and money and must have better self-control. Yes, they can handle their losses well and not lose control of themselves after seeing the many losses they experienced.

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November 08, 2023, 04:06:36 AM
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Yes, that's true, especially if they lose very often. They will become frustrated when they see their losing numbers, and they tend to try to recover their losses by continuing to gamble. It might be better if they stop their gambling activities for some time and reset everything so they can start all over again. But this time, they must be truly disciplined in managing their time and money and must have better self-control. Yes, they can handle their losses well and not lose control of themselves after seeing the many losses they experienced.

Yeah, and maybe after waiting for that long time they might not want to go back to gambling again.

The mind works in great ways, and it adapts to whatever you are doing, so if you don't do something for a long time, you adapt and stop craving for it.

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November 08, 2023, 10:35:52 AM
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Yeah, and maybe after waiting for that long time they might not want to go back to gambling again.

The mind works in great ways, and it adapts to whatever you are doing, so if you don't do something for a long time, you adapt and stop craving for it.
Stopping gambling for a while can allow them to do other things that are more useful besides just gambling. They can improve their mindset and perhaps close their gambling records so that when they return to gambling periodically in the future, they will not need their gambling records because they will not use gambling as a way to make money but just as entertainment. They can differentiate between gambling as entertainment that uses money and other things that are entertainment that do not require money. By stopping gambling and doing other things, at least their minds will not think about gambling, and that is useful for reducing their gambling addiction slowly.

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November 08, 2023, 03:07:40 PM
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Quite agree but I wouldn't say that's entirely true, because on the other hand there are still some gamblers who don't really think about their gambling records even though it's very important so that they can know or just measure the extent of their gambling involvement or how much they have lost. Yes having full responsibility for the gambling that we do would be a better thing, because if you are a responsible gambler then I think you also have some precautions that will be applied to your gambling, such as knowing when to come and when to leave, and also in terms of budget usually those who are responsible will prefer to put a small budget because that is the only budget they can accept especially if the final result turns out to be a loss. On the other hand, it is indeed a good action so that we can avoid gambling addiction a little.

True, the purpose of them looking at their gambling records is nothing but to see how much they have lost and won, and I think there are two actions they will take when they see the records, some are getting more excessive because they want to return all their losses and some are getting better because they don't want to lose more. So I think they also know what's best for themselves.
That's because they have their own reasons for having a gambling record or whether they don't need it. Moreover, they can see their gambling records from their gambling accounts so that it can be a benchmark for how much money they spend on gambling. If they realize that they are using too much of their money, they should start reducing their gambling activities or reducing the amount of bets. But what exists is that there are still many gamblers who do not pay attention to this and instead try to increase the number of bets.

If it becomes too much, they should reduce their gambling, lest they experience problems that could have serious consequences. If they have good self-control, they can ignore this, especially if they have found pleasure in gambling.

Yes, maybe one of the reasons is like what you said, although it won't be entirely true either. But on the other hand I quite agree with your assumption, because it is quite easy if they want to see how much they have lost and how much they have won through one of the features in their gambling account. And for the problem of whether the record will be able to have a good or bad impact, in my opinion it is also difficult to predict, I have a friend who when he loses he gets even more emotional and even crazier because he doesn't accept the defeat that always happens at the end of the session and after that he even plays again with a bigger amount, well in my opinion that is one of the reasons and choices that they might choose when they find out that the number of losses is very much compared to wins, but yes I also said it depends on the judges themselves, some can realize and reduce it and on the other hand there are also those who are getting crazy in their involvement.

Yes indeed the best, if it turns out that their losses look more than wins then it is better to look for some measures  for prevention such as for examplee reducing the amount of the budget so that the amount of loss is not getting bigger if it ends up losing again. And yes anyway on the other hand there is no guarantee  whatsoever to win, therefore in my opinion it is indeed the best way that can be done.

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Stopping gambling for a while can allow them to do other things that are more useful besides just gambling. They can improve their mindset and perhaps close their gambling records so that when they return to gambling periodically in the future, they will not need their gambling records because they will not use gambling as a way to make money but just as entertainment. They can differentiate between gambling as entertainment that uses money and other things that are entertainment that do not require money. By stopping gambling and doing other things, at least their minds will not think about gambling, and that is useful for reducing their gambling addiction slowly.

Yeah, I think that is always a healthy thing to do. Stopping your addiction for a bit, or maybe more than a bit, to let your brain reconfigure itself and approach it again with a fresh perspective.

In that way the gambler will be able to continue, or not, in a more reasonable manner.

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November 09, 2023, 12:24:18 AM
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In fact, in many places they say that we should keep records of all our bets so that we can redeem them in the future to review successes and losses and thus learn from mistakes.

However, I don't think this is efficient for the sport I bet on....
In football, each game is unique, there is no way to find a pattern in the games or something that can be analyzed!

I find it interesting that at the end of each game the bettor evaluates his bet and what happened during the game, if he lost, see why he made a mistake... if it is because the game had an unforeseen result or event, or if there really was a fails to predict the best outcome.
Now that's an analysis that could make sense. But keeping records of several games and bets, in my opinion, is not advantageous in football.

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November 09, 2023, 03:32:23 PM
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Yes, maybe one of the reasons is like what you said, although it won't be entirely true either. But on the other hand I quite agree with your assumption, because it is quite easy if they want to see how much they have lost and how much they have won through one of the features in their gambling account. And for the problem of whether the record will be able to have a good or bad impact, in my opinion it is also difficult to predict, I have a friend who when he loses he gets even more emotional and even crazier because he doesn't accept the defeat that always happens at the end of the session and after that he even plays again with a bigger amount, well in my opinion that is one of the reasons and choices that they might choose when they find out that the number of losses is very much compared to wins, but yes I also said it depends on the judges themselves, some can realize and reduce it and on the other hand there are also those who are getting crazy in their involvement.

Yes indeed the best, if it turns out that their losses look more than wins then it is better to look for some measures  for prevention such as for examplee reducing the amount of the budget so that the amount of loss is not getting bigger if it ends up losing again. And yes anyway on the other hand there is no guarantee  whatsoever to win, therefore in my opinion it is indeed the best way that can be done.
Looking at our gambling history from the features available on our gambling account is actually enough for us to know how much money we have deposited and withdrawn, and that can also be a strong reason for us to reduce our gambling activities, especially if we deposit more than we withdraw the money. That way, we can also reduce the amount of money we deposit because we don't want to experience more losses. A person can become increasingly eager to gamble when he cannot accept his losses and will try to deposit more money because he can gamble longer and he thinks that he will have a better chance of winning, even though that is not true. He will have a chance of winning, but his chances of losing will be greater than his chances of winning.

However, if we have experienced losses while gambling, we must be aware of it and try to reduce our gambling activities. Don't let us end up spending all our money and not being able to meet our daily needs because there are gamblers who experience this. If we have lost, we have to stop gambling because it will be difficult for us to recover the loss.

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Yeah, I think that is always a healthy thing to do. Stopping your addiction for a bit, or maybe more than a bit, to let your brain reconfigure itself and approach it again with a fresh perspective.

In that way the gambler will be able to continue, or not, in a more reasonable manner.
Stopping addiction is something that gamblers must do because if they don't, they will only make their gambling addiction worse. In fact, it will be difficult for them to cure their gambling addiction even though many people have helped them. Without his own desire to recover, he will find it difficult to cure his gambling addiction, and other people who provide encouragement and support will not be very meaningful. If he can realize by looking at his gambling records that he has spent a lot of money, he should be able to realize that he needs to reset his mindset about gambling so that he will start reducing his gambling activities.

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November 09, 2023, 05:55:47 PM
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I don’t keep records of my gambling stats, I’m too lazy to be honest and I gamble for fun, to make games and tournaments more interesting. I am not gambling in desperation for additional income.

It’s all a matter of personal choice, there is no right or wrong. The only thing to remember is to practise responsible gambling. Don’t bet more than you can afford to lose.

Right, as I said in the previous post. in fact, it doesn't matter if one records gambling statistics. Likewise, we don't even think about doing it. After all, it's all about habits, even if someone does it, they have a basis for various reasons. Perhaps, some gamblers want to know statistics, determine and manage their gambling expenses by recording them. and there is nothing wrong with that, in fact I praise those who do it in general, regardless of their motivation or scenario.

For me, just like you do. we are too lazy to do it, don't even think we will do it. the point is, it's nothing but looking for fun in this quite expensive and risky entertainment. I mean why do I call it expensive, because to play it we need funds and as a medium for conducting game sessions. Plus, be ready for the risks involved. Overall, we agree with what you said. In essence, play responsibly and recognize the risks. Also, whatever it is, we are fully aware of what we are doing.


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November 09, 2023, 06:05:48 PM
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In fact, in many places they say that we should keep records of all our bets so that we can redeem them in the future to review successes and losses and thus learn from mistakes.

However, I don't think this is efficient for the sport I bet on....
In football, each game is unique, there is no way to find a pattern in the games or something that can be analyzed!

I find it interesting that at the end of each game the bettor evaluates his bet and what happened during the game, if he lost, see why he made a mistake... if it is because the game had an unforeseen result or event, or if there really was a fails to predict the best outcome.
Now that's an analysis that could make sense. But keeping records of several games and bets, in my opinion, is not advantageous in football.

You will find out soon that keeping such records will be a headache to you.
Not only because of seeing those losses, but the activity itself will drain your energy as it is additional task.
So for me, this task is not sustainable. It is better to just allocate money for your betting activities, that you think you won't have qualms losing.
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November 09, 2023, 06:13:58 PM
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If gamblers keeps recored then their gambling will be under control and they will use money which will be limited but if they don't keep record then there is a probability that they will be addicted to gambling. Without keeping record you cannot realize your win or loss percentage and if you loss for five times and win for just one time then you will be happy for a single win but will not realize that five times loss are more and single win is unable to cover this loss.

I think that if everyone keeps record of their gambling then a day will come when they will not be more a participant of gambling because all individuals has Loss percentage more than win percentage. Lossing money is the primary concern but later gambler start to sell every thing in order to get money therefore try to keep record or completely move away from it.

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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
I am not a gambler but I think I can still give you a good advice. It's really a good idea and I would say, it's necessary, to record your financial activities. You have to know how much money you deposit to gamble and how much you get back. If you track that, it will help you to understand whether your gambling turns into addiction or not because sometimes you really gamble for fun and start with that idea and you don't realize that you deposit more, gamble more, get back less and that's where the addiction starts. So, yeah, you should really keep records. Whether you are a bad gambler or good one, that has nothing to do with it.

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November 09, 2023, 06:38:35 PM
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Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
Keeping record on your gambling activities only helps you to know how much you may have gambled with within a certain period of time, and likewise how much you may have also lost, but just like O.P said, to me, I don't see any need why anyone should keep such record, because it's just a total waste of time, because either keeping record or not, it won't stop you from losing or neither winning a game, in as much as you are gambling responsibly. Because I think such record is meant to be kept for people who are addicted to gambling, so as to be able to regulate how much they waste on gambling.

But on a general sense, it's literally of no value to either the gambler or casino.

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November 09, 2023, 06:50:08 PM
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Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?
Keeping record on your gambling activities only helps you to know how much you may have gambled with within a certain period of time, and likewise how much you may have also lost, but just like O.P said, to me, I don't see any need why anyone should keep such record, because it's just a total waste of time, because either keeping record or not, it won't stop you from losing or neither winning a game, in as much as you are gambling responsibly. Because I think such record is meant to be kept for people who are addicted to gambling, so as to be able to regulate how much they waste on gambling.

But on a general sense, it's literally of no value to either the gambler or casino.

and besides, do you really think some are really doing this tedious task? yes, we know, there are some benefits of doing so however, for me, i think no one can consistently do the recording of all his bets. for me, this task is not sustainable. you may be excited it in the first few months, but later on, it will be a burden for you.
the more sustainable approach would be to spend what you can afford to lose in every bet you want to make. so you have no worries if you will win or lose with your bets.

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November 10, 2023, 03:24:35 PM
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Yes, maybe one of the reasons is like what you said, although it won't be entirely true either. But on the other hand I quite agree with your assumption, because it is quite easy if they want to see how much they have lost and how much they have won through one of the features in their gambling account. And for the problem of whether the record will be able to have a good or bad impact, in my opinion it is also difficult to predict, I have a friend who when he loses he gets even more emotional and even crazier because he doesn't accept the defeat that always happens at the end of the session and after that he even plays again with a bigger amount, well in my opinion that is one of the reasons and choices that they might choose when they find out that the number of losses is very much compared to wins, but yes I also said it depends on the judges themselves, some can realize and reduce it and on the other hand there are also those who are getting crazy in their involvement.

Yes indeed the best, if it turns out that their losses look more than wins then it is better to look for some measures  for prevention such as for examplee reducing the amount of the budget so that the amount of loss is not getting bigger if it ends up losing again. And yes anyway on the other hand there is no guarantee  whatsoever to win, therefore in my opinion it is indeed the best way that can be done.
Looking at our gambling history from the features available on our gambling account is actually enough for us to know how much money we have deposited and withdrawn, and that can also be a strong reason for us to reduce our gambling activities, especially if we deposit more than we withdraw the money. That way, we can also reduce the amount of money we deposit because we don't want to experience more losses. A person can become increasingly eager to gamble when he cannot accept his losses and will try to deposit more money because he can gamble longer and he thinks that he will have a better chance of winning, even though that is not true. He will have a chance of winning, but his chances of losing will be greater than his chances of winning.

However, if we have experienced losses while gambling, we must be aware of it and try to reduce our gambling activities. Don't let us end up spending all our money and not being able to meet our daily needs because there are gamblers who experience this. If we have lost, we have to stop gambling because it will be difficult for us to recover the loss.


Yes it should be like that, they can take your advice but on the other hand it is still a question of what they will do when they see the fact that their losses are much bigger, still in the end this is a big question, as I said before, there are two possibilities that can happen. Your suggestion is a good one, it's easy to say but hard to do, which is why they are still suffering from an increasing number of losses. So I hope that someone will really make a very good judgment when the fact is that their losses are far greater than the winnings, I hope they can realize and choose to fix it by reducing the number of bets or even quitting completely is better.

For someone who is healthy and brings a logical mindset when wanting to gamble I'm sure without some advice  from others they will also be able to take some precautions as you said I think they will definitely be vigilant and also will not be too excessive. Because they are not only thinking about gambling but their minds are divided for other things too such as the  cost of living or basic needs needed by their families.

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November 10, 2023, 03:31:44 PM
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What joy is it in keeping record of one's gambling life experience when all we could see are losses in all the bets we made from the slip, though we should be able to track same on the casino profile when we check in our gambling bets history, but am very sure that most gamblers don't consider this as an interesting action to take, keeping record if not for a specific demand will only make us feels regrettably from how we gamble and the rate of amount of money used for gambling purpose.

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November 10, 2023, 03:53:06 PM
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You will find out soon that keeping such records will be a headache to you.
Not only because of seeing those losses, but the activity itself will drain your energy as it is additional task.
So for me, this task is not sustainable. It is better to just allocate money for your betting activities, that you think you won't have qualms losing.
Keeping records do not really help because at first you will think you could possibly recover all your losses but with time you will understand that gambling doesn't work they way, they most times cause you to want to further chase losses which may aswell lead to further loss.

Allocating money for gambling still remains the best because that way you know that such amount is that which you are ready to loose regardless of what the possible outcome would be, they way you will definitely not really feel bad if you loose the money and there will be less tendencies to chase losses and reduce your risk of becoming addicted. You will possibly get drained and exhausted keeping records especially when it turns out they your wins are not making up for the losses.

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November 10, 2023, 04:47:22 PM
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If gamblers keeps recored then their gambling will be under control and they will use money which will be limited but if they don't keep record then there is a probability that they will be addicted to gambling. Without keeping record you cannot realize your win or loss percentage and if you loss for five times and win for just one time then you will be happy for a single win but will not realize that five times loss are more and single win is unable to cover this loss.

I think that if everyone keeps record of their gambling then a day will come when they will not be more a participant of gambling because all individuals has Loss percentage more than win percentage. Lossing money is the primary concern but later gambler start to sell every thing in order to get money therefore try to keep record or completely move away from it.

That's not necessarily true because there are people who gamble just for fun and don't keep a record of their wins or losses.
If they win they keep playing more. They don't track the losses because they already consider the amount they deposit as lost.

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November 10, 2023, 05:00:48 PM
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Sincerely speaking, I take gambling as the list of what I do,  and at the same time,  I only gamble for entertainment and nothing more,  this is why I have almost set up the time that I gamble and how much I gamble with each week,  and this has helped me a lot in recent time to be able to deal with a lot of things that would have ordinarily been a drawback to me in the long run,  this is why I have realized the fact that anything outside your set limit is a no go area,  I don't have a P. A but I use my device as my P. A reason is that I can easily set whatever limits in gambling just from my phone,  and sometimes,  I see that my phone will go off if I exceed my set time by just 1 second,  so that is why,  at times I see myself winning so much in a game but then if I exceed that set time and I didn't close down before that time,  I may get locked out and I may lose the game at the end.

That is why, sometimes I always try to close all my games opening before anything that will make me exceed that set time and at what space.
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November 10, 2023, 09:15:58 PM
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Yes it should be like that, they can take your advice but on the other hand it is still a question of what they will do when they see the fact that their losses are much bigger, still in the end this is a big question, as I said before, there are two possibilities that can happen. Your suggestion is a good one, it's easy to say but hard to do, which is why they are still suffering from an increasing number of losses. So I hope that someone will really make a very good judgment when the fact is that their losses are far greater than the winnings, I hope they can realize and choose to fix it by reducing the number of bets or even quitting completely is better.

For someone who is healthy and brings a logical mindset when wanting to gamble I'm sure without some advice  from others they will also be able to take some precautions as you said I think they will definitely be vigilant and also will not be too excessive. Because they are not only thinking about gambling but their minds are divided for other things too such as the  cost of living or basic needs needed by their families.
If they experience much bigger losses, there will be two options for them: they can immediately stop gambling and not gamble forever or they will keep gambling and try to recover their losses. If they choose the first suggestion, that's good for them because at least they have to learn to stop gambling completely. After all, they have already lost a lot of money from gambling. But if they choose the second suggestion, they will experience even more losses, and this time, it could lead them to develop a serious gambling addiction. So it will be up to their decision but they should think about it well and will not choose the second suggestion.

If they are wise gamblers, they will be able to decide what is best for them and will not gamble with too much money because that will only increase the amount of their losses even greater. They will take preventive measures, and maybe they will reduce their gambling activities, especially since their gambling records already contain many losses that will not be able to be recovered even if they use more money.

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November 10, 2023, 11:13:32 PM
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What joy is it in keeping record of one's gambling life experience when all we could see are losses in all the bets we made from the slip, though we should be able to track same on the casino profile when we check in our gambling bets history, but am very sure that most gamblers don't consider this as an interesting action to take, keeping record if not for a specific demand will only make us feels regrettably from how we gamble and the rate of amount of money used for gambling purpose.

But the essence of keeping records or tracking losses and wins is a good thing for me. Why? Business-minded, do you want to know where your money goes? How much money have you made or lost? No right? Keeping records will keep you aware of what's happening in your capital; you will see if you are gaining or not. It's not about feeling sad or having regrets about your losses; it's about how you will manage your money. Maybe for some people, they don't care about the history or record of their gambling, but for others, they do this practice to handle their money and efficiently see how well they do in gambling. So I don't get why gamblers, especially online, don't keep records. It is a good practice for money management, yet they don't do it, and you will be confused about where your money goes or will not be aware if your capital is earning or not.

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November 10, 2023, 11:39:43 PM
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What joy is it in keeping record of one's gambling life experience when all we could see are losses in all the bets we made from the slip, though we should be able to track same on the casino profile when we check in our gambling bets history, but am very sure that most gamblers don't consider this as an interesting action to take, keeping record if not for a specific demand will only make us feels regrettably from how we gamble and the rate of amount of money used for gambling purpose.
Yeah, right.
It will be a spreadsheet filled with regrets. Cheesy
I do believe though that making a record for sports betting is acceptable because it means we are tracking down how teams behave in winning against one team and another. Comparisons. Somehow that could help us increase the winning rate on our next bet for the team if ever they face the same opponent one more time.
I don't do that but it might actually work that way.
Sports is not that much unpredictable especially if a team consists of super players. But there are rivalries that could make them lose to one specific team because they know their weakness.
If we could somehow spot that thanks to the spreadsheet that was created, then it would help us avoid betting for the favorite team at that one game or just bet on the opponent instead if we cannot really live one day without making a bet.
But in casino games, this won't work, imho. Just imagining how many bets we are making per day will us faint on recording them all, plus the losses, like you said. It will just hurt our feelings.

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November 11, 2023, 09:28:19 PM
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Quite agree but I wouldn't say that's entirely true, because on the other hand there are still some gamblers who don't really think about their gambling records even though it's very important so that they can know or just measure the extent of their gambling involvement or how much they have lost. Yes having full responsibility for the gambling that we do would be a better thing, because if you are a responsible gambler then I think you also have some precautions that will be applied to your gambling, such as knowing when to come and when to leave, and also in terms of budget usually those who are responsible will prefer to put a small budget because that is the only budget they can accept especially if the final result turns out to be a loss. On the other hand, it is indeed a good action so that we can avoid gambling addiction a little.

True, the purpose of them looking at their gambling records is nothing but to see how much they have lost and won, and I think there are two actions they will take when they see the records, some are getting more excessive because they want to return all their losses and some are getting better because they don't want to lose more. So I think they also know what's best for themselves.
That's because they have their own reasons for having a gambling record or whether they don't need it. Moreover, they can see their gambling records from their gambling accounts so that it can be a benchmark for how much money they spend on gambling. If they realize that they are using too much of their money, they should start reducing their gambling activities or reducing the amount of bets. But what exists is that there are still many gamblers who do not pay attention to this and instead try to increase the number of bets.

If it becomes too much, they should reduce their gambling, lest they experience problems that could have serious consequences. If they have good self-control, they can ignore this, especially if they have found pleasure in gambling.

Yes, maybe one of the reasons is like what you said, although it won't be entirely true either. But on the other hand I quite agree with your assumption, because it is quite easy if they want to see how much they have lost and how much they have won through one of the features in their gambling account. And for the problem of whether the record will be able to have a good or bad impact, in my opinion it is also difficult to predict, I have a friend who when he loses he gets even more emotional and even crazier because he doesn't accept the defeat that always happens at the end of the session and after that he even plays again with a bigger amount, well in my opinion that is one of the reasons and choices that they might choose when they find out that the number of losses is very much compared to wins, but yes I also said it depends on the judges themselves, some can realize and reduce it and on the other hand there are also those who are getting crazy in their involvement.

Yes indeed the best, if it turns out that their losses look more than wins then it is better to look for some measures  for prevention such as for examplee reducing the amount of the budget so that the amount of loss is not getting bigger if it ends up losing again. And yes anyway on the other hand there is no guarantee  whatsoever to win, therefore in my opinion it is indeed the best way that can be done.
A good and simple record can be done through an excel sheet, because it can be a great way to do better things to keep track of it and this converts everyone to do something much better when it comes to detailed control , except that it is very difficult to record everything because you can intuit to do your best to become more exact and to show on the side or as an observation the possible cause of why it was lost or why it was won, and to keep track of it. A record like this is quite difficult because you either play or record everything, I think that this takes the emotion out of the game and what you are doing, unless you make a rough data sheet and show what they can do. offer to have more time to play, because based on my plays you can remember me for the rest I think not, worse that is that there are certain things that one can record and others that one cannot, and that's where it goes time.

The records are not bad, but according to what one can do, it is better to start a record from scratch and not drag the records that one keeps in one's mind, make a clean slate, start from scratch so that things flow better, and thus a more accentuated balance of losses and profits can be kept, because it will always be about making a better scheme with profits above the losses, and bringing it to at least 80% profits and 20% losses, that is what I see that it is better, something else is possible, but better strategies must be considered, the advantage of betting and how much money is put into each game session and if people are satisfied with small or large winnings per session, under which my advice will always be to have fewer gnacias but that they always add and do not subtract, even if each day you make 1-5 usd for me this is very good per day, I don't know what others think, but for me that's it.

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November 13, 2023, 07:09:28 PM
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What joy is it in keeping record of one's gambling life experience when all we could see are losses in all the bets we made from the slip, though we should be able to track same on the casino profile when we check in our gambling bets history, but am very sure that most gamblers don't consider this as an interesting action to take, keeping record if not for a specific demand will only make us feels regrettably from how we gamble and the rate of amount of money used for gambling purpose.
The same argument could be said about record keeping in general and yet people do it despite the fact that most of the time what we end up recording are negative things, so why do it? Humans do this not because we like record keeping in general, a thing that in fact seems that we like, however we do so because it is useful as it allows us to see what we did wrong and then improve upon our mistakes, and while this is difficult to do while we gamble, there are a few gamblers out there which can do this and become professional thanks to it.

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Yes it should be like that, they can take your advice but on the other hand it is still a question of what they will do when they see the fact that their losses are much bigger, still in the end this is a big question, as I said before, there are two possibilities that can happen. Your suggestion is a good one, it's easy to say but hard to do, which is why they are still suffering from an increasing number of losses. So I hope that someone will really make a very good judgment when the fact is that their losses are far greater than the winnings, I hope they can realize and choose to fix it by reducing the number of bets or even quitting completely is better.

For someone who is healthy and brings a logical mindset when wanting to gamble I'm sure without some advice  from others they will also be able to take some precautions as you said I think they will definitely be vigilant and also will not be too excessive. Because they are not only thinking about gambling but their minds are divided for other things too such as the  cost of living or basic needs needed by their families.
If they experience much bigger losses, there will be two options for them: they can immediately stop gambling and not gamble forever or they will keep gambling and try to recover their losses. If they choose the first suggestion, that's good for them because at least they have to learn to stop gambling completely. After all, they have already lost a lot of money from gambling. But if they choose the second suggestion, they will experience even more losses, and this time, it could lead them to develop a serious gambling addiction. So it will be up to their decision but they should think about it well and will not choose the second suggestion.

If they are wise gamblers, they will be able to decide what is best for them and will not gamble with too much money because that will only increase the amount of their losses even greater. They will take preventive measures, and maybe they will reduce their gambling activities, especially since their gambling records already contain many losses that will not be able to be recovered even if they use more money.
Its a matter of choice and a matter of common sense on which it would really be just that right that you should really be needing to make out that kind of decisions on which you would really be having that kind of assessment basing up on the situation that you are in. Dont wait up for things to get messy before you would really be taking up some actions.In speaking about keeping up some records then it would really be just that simply your choice knowing that the activity that you are dealing with does involves tons of losses and only a few wins on which it is really just that normal that you would really be needing to make out some adjustments accordingly basing up on what you are experiencing. Somewhat not keeping records does mean that you are a bad gambler yet there are really indeed people who are really playing just for the sake of fun
and doesnt mind about on the money or amount that they have been using into such activity because they are really indeed willing to take risks and losing it all on such session without bothering themselves about on how much they have already spent or that they have lost. It all matters with your own preference since we do have our own ways on how to track into things.

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What joy is it in keeping record of one's gambling life experience when all we could see are losses in all the bets we made from the slip, though we should be able to track same on the casino profile when we check in our gambling bets history, but am very sure that most gamblers don't consider this as an interesting action to take, keeping record if not for a specific demand will only make us feels regrettably from how we gamble and the rate of amount of money used for gambling purpose.

That's how I see it too. People who lose more than they win will not want to see these statistics anyway. What about people who gamble very little for fun. Is holding such stats where it says that you gambled away $50 last month change anything, when your monthly income is $3k?
IMO stats are for people who really want to make money and their gambling journey is focused on that. I doubt that your average slots player who does a few rolls on his way from work home cares if they won %10 today or lost $5.

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The same argument could be said about record keeping in general and yet people do it despite the fact that most of the time what we end up recording are negative things, so why do it? Humans do this not because we like record keeping in general, a thing that in fact seems that we like, however we do so because it is useful as it allows us to see what we did wrong and then improve upon our mistakes, and while this is difficult to do while we gamble, there are a few gamblers out there which can do this and become professional thanks to it.

In order to control something, you need to measure it.

If you want to realize how much you are gambling, you need to somehow keep track of the money coming in and out from that activity.

Whatever gets measured, can be controlled. If you don't measure it, chances are you are spending more than what you think.

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That's not necessarily true because there are people who gamble just for fun and don't keep a record of their wins or losses.
When I gamble, I think of two things and that's to gamble for fun and also to make money but, I'm the type of gambler that don't keep records. I don't mind how much wins that I've got.

Because what I am sure of, they're nothing compared to the entire losses that I've made. If I'll sum all of them up, for sure that they're little and less and far from being close of my entire losses.

If they win they keep playing more. They don't track the losses because they already consider the amount they deposit as lost.
That's true, when I win, I tend to gamble more until I think that I've got less profit by that time and will secure that. Realization comes at the end when we gamble and with little profit that's left, that's what stopping us for that day.



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Its a matter of choice and a matter of common sense on which it would really be just that right that you should really be needing to make out that kind of decisions on which you would really be having that kind of assessment basing up on the situation that you are in. Dont wait up for things to get messy before you would really be taking up some actions.In speaking about keeping up some records then it would really be just that simply your choice knowing that the activity that you are dealing with does involves tons of losses and only a few wins on which it is really just that normal that you would really be needing to make out some adjustments accordingly basing up on what you are experiencing. Somewhat not keeping records does mean that you are a bad gambler yet there are really indeed people who are really playing just for the sake of fun
and doesnt mind about on the money or amount that they have been using into such activity because they are really indeed willing to take risks and losing it all on such session without bothering themselves about on how much they have already spent or that they have lost. It all matters with your own preference since we do have our own ways on how to track into things.
Not having a gambling record does not mean someone is a bad gambler because maybe they have reasons why they don't do it, and it could be that they just want to have fun gambling, so they don't feel the need to have a gambling record. I also don't have a gambling record because I only use gambling as entertainment, especially since I rarely gamble, Hence, I only need to look at my gambling history in my gambling account. I just don't want to spend too much money gambling, so I try to really limit the time and money I spend gambling because once I'm tempted, I can get deeper into gambling, and it's hard to get out of gambling. We can use our gambling history records on each gambling platform so that we can see how much money we have deposited to gamble. We can also see how much money we withdraw and how often we do it. So it is true that having a gambling record is a choice that each gambler will determine, so it definitely varies from one gambler to another.

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In order to control something, you need to measure it.

If you want to realize how much you are gambling, you need to somehow keep track of the money coming in and out from that activity.

Whatever gets measured, can be controlled. If you don't measure it, chances are you are spending more than what you think.
Yes, if you want to control it, you need to organize it because otherwise it will be irregular and you won't even realize it.
I think with that record we already know about the money in and out of activities in gambling, we can calculate how much money comes in and how much money goes out, obviously it will be more money in than out. Grin

I always measure what has been put into gambling, if it is over the limit then it will not spend anymore, actually the limit is necessary so that it does not become excessive.

That should be realized by gamblers.

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Yes, if you want to control it, you need to organize it because otherwise it will be irregular and you won't even realize it.
I think with that record we already know about the money in and out of activities in gambling, we can calculate how much money comes in and how much money goes out, obviously it will be more money in than out. Grin


Even though you are right that one needs to measure something in order to control it, but that applies to things like mathematical calculations, or fixed budgets, etc. But I disagree it should be applied to gambling, because in the end we cannot fully control all the factors when comes to the money inflow and outflow of money. Yes, you will be aware how much money you have lost to the casinos you like, but keeping in record of your losses will only lean you onto trying to get in green numbers again, would not you think that will push you to gamble more?
That is a bad or losing scenario, because we know that the house will always win in the long term.
If anything, I would believe it would be better only to keep a record on gambling if we intent to recover the money to other means which does not involve more gambling.

It is better just to gamble with a fixed budget and forget about those losses.

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November 14, 2023, 05:10:35 PM
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Yes, maybe one of the reasons is like what you said, although it won't be entirely true either. But on the other hand I quite agree with your assumption, because it is quite easy if they want to see how much they have lost and how much they have won through one of the features in their gambling account. And for the problem of whether the record will be able to have a good or bad impact, in my opinion it is also difficult to predict, I have a friend who when he loses he gets even more emotional and even crazier because he doesn't accept the defeat that always happens at the end of the session and after that he even plays again with a bigger amount, well in my opinion that is one of the reasons and choices that they might choose when they find out that the number of losses is very much compared to wins, but yes I also said it depends on the judges themselves, some can realize and reduce it and on the other hand there are also those who are getting crazy in their involvement.

Yes indeed the best, if it turns out that their losses look more than wins then it is better to look for some measures  for prevention such as for examplee reducing the amount of the budget so that the amount of loss is not getting bigger if it ends up losing again. And yes anyway on the other hand there is no guarantee  whatsoever to win, therefore in my opinion it is indeed the best way that can be done.
A good and simple record can be done through an excel sheet, because it can be a great way to do better things to keep track of it and this converts everyone to do something much better when it comes to detailed control , except that it is very difficult to record everything because you can intuit to do your best to become more exact and to show on the side or as an observation the possible cause of why it was lost or why it was won, and to keep track of it. A record like this is quite difficult because you either play or record everything, I think that this takes the emotion out of the game and what you are doing, unless you make a rough data sheet and show what they can do. offer to have more time to play, because based on my plays you can remember me for the rest I think not, worse that is that there are certain things that one can record and others that one cannot, and that's where it goes time.

The records are not bad, but according to what one can do, it is better to start a record from scratch and not drag the records that one keeps in one's mind, make a clean slate, start from scratch so that things flow better, and thus a more accentuated balance of losses and profits can be kept, because it will always be about making a better scheme with profits above the losses, and bringing it to at least 80% profits and 20% losses, that is what I see that it is better, something else is possible, but better strategies must be considered, the advantage of betting and how much money is put into each game session and if people are satisfied with small or large winnings per session, under which my advice will always be to have fewer gnacias but that they always add and do not subtract, even if each day you make 1-5 usd for me this is very good per day, I don't know what others think, but for me that's it.

Although this method looks very good and effective but the problem and the question is as I said above my friend, what if it turns out that they are even crazier in their gambling because they see a larger number of defeats in their excel sheet records, you give pretty good and detailed advice, but before that I have already told you about what my friend experienced, he became crazier because he did not accept the amount of defeat, and what happened was even more chasing defeat in the next session.

It seems that this problem is really out of our control, because of course they have actions that we think are completely unreasonable and far from what we expected about when they advised him to look at his gambling records. In fact there are some people like that, until now I still monitor and take care of my friend who when he found out that the number of losses was bigger he actually chased more losses with the intention of recovering, I still try to make him realize, but I don't know if there are many people like that out there, of course it will be a big problem for his life because there is absolutely no self-control or mindset to just reduce his activities even though they have seen his record.


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November 15, 2023, 01:20:52 AM
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In order to control something, you need to measure it.

If you want to realize how much you are gambling, you need to somehow keep track of the money coming in and out from that activity.

Whatever gets measured, can be controlled. If you don't measure it, chances are you are spending more than what you think.
Yes, if you want to control it, you need to organize it because otherwise it will be irregular and you won't even realize it.
I think with that record we already know about the money in and out of activities in gambling, we can calculate how much money comes in and how much money goes out, obviously it will be more money in than out. Grin

I always measure what has been put into gambling, if it is over the limit then it will not spend anymore, actually the limit is necessary so that it does not become excessive.

That should be realized by gamblers.
It is very important for gamblers to realize this to record their expenses and income so that the money they spend does not exceed their income, because it is impossible for us to use all our finances for gambling and we must use as little expenditure as possible to carry out these gambling activities.
Responsible gamblers definitely apply spending limits when gambling and they definitely control their finances either by looking at their gambling history or recording their expenses. What is clear is that if we want to gamble safely, that is by recording expenses by looking at these records we can find out our gambling activities and control them so that we can be organized and can make us disciplined gamblers.

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November 15, 2023, 02:03:52 AM
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Even though you are right that one needs to measure something in order to control it, but that applies to things like mathematical calculations, or fixed budgets, etc. But I disagree it should be applied to gambling, because in the end we cannot fully control all the factors when comes to the money inflow and outflow of money. Yes, you will be aware how much money you have lost to the casinos you like, but keeping in record of your losses will only lean you onto trying to get in green numbers again, would not you think that will push you to gamble more?
That is a bad or losing scenario, because we know that the house will always win in the long term.
If anything, I would believe it would be better only to keep a record on gambling if we intent to recover the money to other means which does not involve more gambling.

It is better just to gamble with a fixed budget and forget about those losses.

It depends on how you want to tackle that issue.

For some people, sure, they might want to have a fixed amount of money they will use.

For others, they want to understand how much money they are using for gambling, and see if it makes sense for them.

Most people don't really stop and think about how much money certain behavior is costing them

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November 15, 2023, 09:41:54 PM
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Even though you are right that one needs to measure something in order to control it, but that applies to things like mathematical calculations, or fixed budgets, etc. But I disagree it should be applied to gambling, because in the end we cannot fully control all the factors when comes to the money inflow and outflow of money. Yes, you will be aware how much money you have lost to the casinos you like, but keeping in record of your losses will only lean you onto trying to get in green numbers again, would not you think that will push you to gamble more?
That is a bad or losing scenario, because we know that the house will always win in the long term.
If anything, I would believe it would be better only to keep a record on gambling if we intent to recover the money to other means which does not involve more gambling.

It is better just to gamble with a fixed budget and forget about those losses.

It depends on how you want to tackle that issue.

For some people, sure, they might want to have a fixed amount of money they will use.

For others, they want to understand how much money they are using for gambling, and see if it makes sense for them.

Most people don't really stop and think about how much money certain behavior is costing them

To me it is not healthy in any way, shape or form to step into a casino or logging onto one and not having a clear idea on how much one intends to put at risk during that session alone. What is the point of keeping a record of how much one is losing if one does not set a budget before starting gambling anyways? It is just easier and more responsible to take gambling money to the casino and write down the final net win or loses when one decides to stop and go back home, on the other hand, not having a limit and yet trying to keep track of one's money would imply to take notes and pay attention during the whole session, so one won't lose track of the amount of money one is wagering.
I am not sure whether I am explaining myself properly or not, though.

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November 15, 2023, 09:51:39 PM
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In order to control something, you need to measure it.

If you want to realize how much you are gambling, you need to somehow keep track of the money coming in and out from that activity.

Whatever gets measured, can be controlled. If you don't measure it, chances are you are spending more than what you think.
Yes, if you want to control it, you need to organize it because otherwise it will be irregular and you won't even realize it.
I think with that record we already know about the money in and out of activities in gambling, we can calculate how much money comes in and how much money goes out, obviously it will be more money in than out. Grin

I always measure what has been put into gambling, if it is over the limit then it will not spend anymore, actually the limit is necessary so that it does not become excessive.

That should be realized by gamblers.

The reality is it is quite hard to maintain on having a record of your gambling expenses.
So for me, the more sustainable approach if you are into gambling is just deposit what you feel you can afford to lose without heartache.
Because you will be peace at yourself if you know your money that you are spending in gambling is not the money for your basic expenses.
I don't think a lot of gamblers can diligently keep their records of their gambling expenses. That will consume a lot of time as well as stress.
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November 15, 2023, 10:23:15 PM
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In order to control something, you need to measure it.

If you want to realize how much you are gambling, you need to somehow keep track of the money coming in and out from that activity.

Whatever gets measured, can be controlled. If you don't measure it, chances are you are spending more than what you think.
Yes, if you want to control it, you need to organize it because otherwise it will be irregular and you won't even realize it.
I think with that record we already know about the money in and out of activities in gambling, we can calculate how much money comes in and how much money goes out, obviously it will be more money in than out. Grin

I always measure what has been put into gambling, if it is over the limit then it will not spend anymore, actually the limit is necessary so that it does not become excessive.

That should be realized by gamblers.

The reality is it is quite hard to maintain on having a record of your gambling expenses.
So for me, the more sustainable approach if you are into gambling is just deposit what you feel you can afford to lose without heartache.
Because you will be peace at yourself if you know your money that you are spending in gambling is not the money for your basic expenses.
I don't think a lot of gamblers can diligently keep their records of their gambling expenses. That will consume a lot of time as well as stress.

Actually, when it comes to "keeping records", it is either important or not important. However, if you consider that your gambling activities are still relatively safe and feel that you are still able to control your gambling activities and feel that your expenses are still well organized, so that they do not cause significant losses, then not keeping records is not a problem.

Keeping records is just a form of our caution towards the gambling activities that we do, because it is feared that this gambling activity will only cause considerable losses. And it is feared that the money we spend when gambling is not well organized.
And this record is good or not for us to do, back again to each person in reacting to it.

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November 15, 2023, 10:39:47 PM
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That's how I see it too. People who lose more than they win will not want to see these statistics anyway. What about people who gamble very little for fun. Is holding such stats where it says that you gambled away $50 last month change anything, when your monthly income is $3k?
IMO stats are for people who really want to make money and their gambling journey is focused on that. I doubt that your average slots player who does a few rolls on his way from work home cares if they won %10 today or lost $5.

Stats are for people who want to present or have a detailed report on something and while I’m yet to meet someone who would want to be continuously updated on the sizable chunk of money he has lost overtime compared to peanuts he most likely felt really happy to have won, there may actually be some people who have and keep such detailed report of their gambling history for whatever reasons.
I think the average gambler which includes the group of gamblers who play for recreational purposes as well as those who aren’t frequent and play at random could care less for records of their gambling which would probably show more loses than wins.
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That's how I see it too. People who lose more than they win will not want to see these statistics anyway. What about people who gamble very little for fun. Is holding such stats where it says that you gambled away $50 last month change anything, when your monthly income is $3k?
IMO stats are for people who really want to make money and their gambling journey is focused on that. I doubt that your average slots player who does a few rolls on his way from work home cares if they won %10 today or lost $5.

Stats are for people who want to present or have a detailed report on something and while I’m yet to meet someone who would want to be continuously updated on the sizable chunk of money he has lost overtime compared to peanuts he most likely felt really happy to have won, there may actually be some people who have and keep such detailed report of their gambling history for whatever reasons.
I think the average gambler which includes the group of gamblers who play for recreational purposes as well as those who aren’t frequent and play at random could care less for records of their gambling which would probably show more loses than wins.
You would really be finding yourself that a detailed gambler if you are really that making those tallies on which simply means that you are really that serious on your gambling session.
Well, its always been recommended that you should be watchful in regarding your spending because it would really be that making you avoid into something like getting wrecked or
spending up that much. Dont make yourself get that addicted because once you do fall yourself into such condition then getting out would really be that hard.

Keeping records? Doesnt really make you a bad gambler on not keeping it, there are really just those people who dont really care
about their gambling activity and this is why they dont really make those tallies or record.

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~snip~
Stats are for people who want to present or have a detailed report on something and while I’m yet to meet someone who would want to be continuously updated on the sizable chunk of money he has lost overtime compared to peanuts he most likely felt really happy to have won, there may actually be some people who have and keep such detailed report of their gambling history for whatever reasons.
I think the average gambler which includes the group of gamblers who play for recreational purposes as well as those who aren’t frequent and play at random could care less for records of their gambling which would probably show more loses than wins.

Yes, spot on.

The whole gambling thing is about not thinking about it too much. That's also why in casinos they don't have windows or clocks anywhere, they don't want you to realize how much time you have been in there.

It's a bit like being in a different reality, controlled by the casino. And when the gambler wakes up, sometimes they find themselves in a very different reality.

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November 16, 2023, 08:53:28 AM
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That's how I see it too. People who lose more than they win will not want to see these statistics anyway. What about people who gamble very little for fun. Is holding such stats where it says that you gambled away $50 last month change anything, when your monthly income is $3k?
IMO stats are for people who really want to make money and their gambling journey is focused on that. I doubt that your average slots player who does a few rolls on his way from work home cares if they won %10 today or lost $5.
Stats are for people who want to present or have a detailed report on something and while I’m yet to meet someone who would want to be continuously updated on the sizable chunk of money he has lost overtime compared to peanuts he most likely felt really happy to have won, there may actually be some people who have and keep such detailed report of their gambling history for whatever reasons.
I think the average gambler which includes the group of gamblers who play for recreational purposes as well as those who aren’t frequent and play at random could care less for records of their gambling which would probably show more loses than wins.
If they have a specific reason for making a detailed report on their gambling history, they will definitely use it to achieve their goals. Maybe they want to compare how much they win and lose from gambling and will apply something that might be useful for them in anticipating more losses or to find out how much money they have used for gambling in a month. But indeed, people who don't use gambling for anything other than just having fun won't bother to make a gambling report because they have to write a report every time they finish gambling. That would be a waste of time because they would have to do other activities immediately. Apart from that, seeing his gambling report, which may result in more losses, can make him want to recover his losses.

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November 16, 2023, 10:12:44 AM
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Stats are for people who want to present or have a detailed report on something and while I’m yet to meet someone who would want to be continuously updated on the sizable chunk of money he has lost overtime compared to peanuts he most likely felt really happy to have won, there may actually be some people who have and keep such detailed report of their gambling history for whatever reasons.
I think the average gambler which includes the group of gamblers who play for recreational purposes as well as those who aren’t frequent and play at random could care less for records of their gambling which would probably show more loses than wins.

Yes, spot on.

The whole gambling thing is about not thinking about it too much. That's also why in casinos they don't have windows or clocks anywhere, they don't want you to realize how much time you have been in there.

It's a bit like being in a different reality, controlled by the casino. And when the gambler wakes up, sometimes they find themselves in a very different reality.

Yeah, that's the point casino owners would love to see you continually using their platforms they will do anything to keep stay and enjoy
and for those gamblers who are being allure by that strategy, most of them lose after.

If you are not keeping your records and you are just playing all in, eventually you will lose your money and you will end up losing more compared
to what you intended to use.

Though some may have that capability, but most don't and that's where the gambling owners are getting their huge chunks of profits.
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Stats are for people who want to present or have a detailed report on something and while I’m yet to meet someone who would want to be continuously updated on the sizable chunk of money he has lost overtime compared to peanuts he most likely felt really happy to have won, there may actually be some people who have and keep such detailed report of their gambling history for whatever reasons.
I think the average gambler which includes the group of gamblers who play for recreational purposes as well as those who aren’t frequent and play at random could care less for records of their gambling which would probably show more loses than wins.

Yes, spot on.

The whole gambling thing is about not thinking about it too much. That's also why in casinos they don't have windows or clocks anywhere, they don't want you to realize how much time you have been in there.

It's a bit like being in a different reality, controlled by the casino. And when the gambler wakes up, sometimes they find themselves in a very different reality.

Overthinking it could sometimes take away all the fun out of it and anxiety slowly replaces the feeling of excitement that was initially there. And that’s why I think people dream up notions about the possibility of earning an income from gambling.

Casinos, being in business to make profit, is not really different from any business that has profit oriented goals. would create a suitable environment for anyone willing to gamble. After all, it’s only natural for businesses to be innovative and want to provide the best environment for customers.
I must admit. Not having clocks or windows so people wouldn’t be time conscious would go a long way in making people stay much longer and spend more money.
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November 17, 2023, 08:26:50 PM
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Honestly, most casinos have the stat tracking for you anyway, so I do not think that this really deserves an attention. Only thing you need to keep checking out is how much money you spent, and you should put a limit to how much you are willing to spend per month, and if you reach that amount then get out, I do not think that you should keep going.

I keep gambling with very low amounts, and usually that doesn't make me too much money and quickly ends, so I gamble like first week of every month and then stop, if I had a lucky week then maybe two weeks of a month, but I rarely get to see a whole month of gambling, I must be very very lucky for that to happen. All this thanks to following how much I gambled for that month, that's it.

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Overthinking it could sometimes take away all the fun out of it and anxiety slowly replaces the feeling of excitement that was initially there. And that’s why I think people dream up notions about the possibility of earning an income from gambling.

Casinos, being in business to make profit, is not really different from any business that has profit oriented goals. would create a suitable environment for anyone willing to gamble. After all, it’s only natural for businesses to be innovative and want to provide the best environment for customers.
I must admit. Not having clocks or windows so people wouldn’t be time conscious would go a long way in making people stay much longer and spend more money.

Yeah, it's a form of entertainment in a way.

Casinos provide the space for people to enjoy some chances to become millionaire. That's also why many casinos are built as "fancy" places, so that people would feel a bit of that lifestyle.

As with everything in life, if you do it in a balanced way, there's no issues. The problem starts when people lose control and gamble all their money away.

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November 19, 2023, 09:10:01 AM
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Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

I don't keep records either because if I do or anyone else that does that means only one thing,whenever you will be back reviewing your spreadsheet with your win/loss data you will think not twice but more than that before you gamble.

It is true that when you don't keep it you only tend to remember your big wins but if your lost sessions are consecutive you will remember them too so I don't see any real benefit of keeping track,in order to avoid this use a preset budget for gambling every week or every month and stick to it,you will know the data without keeping a spreadsheet.

Don't you think it's a benefit that whenever you are back reviewing your spreadsheet with your win or loss data, you will think not twice but more than that before you gamble? Because in my opinion, it's a kind of reminder, not like guilt-tripping or anything, but the reality check on your spending. The real benefit of keeping a record is that you can analyze not only your lose and win record but also your actual financial spending on gambling, and you can verify it with your actual financial savings. And I don't think every gambler should have to keep their record, because if you're not a gambling addict, then you will definitely think before spending.

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November 20, 2023, 02:46:45 AM
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Don't you think it's a benefit that whenever you are back reviewing your spreadsheet with your win or loss data, you will think not twice but more than that before you gamble? Because in my opinion, it's a kind of reminder, not like guilt-tripping or anything, but the reality check on your spending. The real benefit of keeping a record is that you can analyze not only your lose and win record but also your actual financial spending on gambling, and you can verify it with your actual financial savings. And I don't think every gambler should have to keep their record, because if you're not a gambling addict, then you will definitely think before spending.

Yeah, it's clearly a benefit.

But it will most of the time mean that the person will see that they are paying way more than what they feel comfortable, and maybe stop gambling, which is an activity they enjoy.

So, many people just don't want to see that reality because they want to gamble again.

Same with alcohol, if you enjoy drinking it, you won't bother paying high prices for it, whereas paying for other things at the same price would be a big no for the same person.

Human behavior is so interesting!

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November 20, 2023, 04:55:20 AM
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~snip~
Don't you think it's a benefit that whenever you are back reviewing your spreadsheet with your win or loss data, you will think not twice but more than that before you gamble? Because in my opinion, it's a kind of reminder, not like guilt-tripping or anything, but the reality check on your spending. The real benefit of keeping a record is that you can analyze not only your lose and win record but also your actual financial spending on gambling, and you can verify it with your actual financial savings. And I don't think every gambler should have to keep their record, because if you're not a gambling addict, then you will definitely think before spending.

Yeah, it's clearly a benefit.

But it will most of the time mean that the person will see that they are paying way more than what they feel comfortable, and maybe stop gambling, which is an activity they enjoy.

So, many people just don't want to see that reality because they want to gamble again.

Same with alcohol, if you enjoy drinking it, you won't bother paying high prices for it, whereas paying for other things at the same price would be a big no for the same person.

Human behavior is so interesting!
For me, It's not that important if you track all your records in gambling or not. I'm aware that it will be helpful for some gamblers because they can monitor their total spending amounts most specially if they know their limits and needs to control their money to avoid losing much  but for other gamblers who used to gamble and majority of the time they played is all about losing, It will be a bit frustrating because it reminds them of things that should be forgotten and never looked back on.



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November 20, 2023, 11:56:30 AM
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Don't you think it's a benefit that whenever you are back reviewing your spreadsheet with your win or loss data, you will think not twice but more than that before you gamble? Because in my opinion, it's a kind of reminder, not like guilt-tripping or anything, but the reality check on your spending. The real benefit of keeping a record is that you can analyze not only your lose and win record but also your actual financial spending on gambling, and you can verify it with your actual financial savings. And I don't think every gambler should have to keep their record, because if you're not a gambling addict, then you will definitely think before spending.

Yeah, it's clearly a benefit.

But it will most of the time mean that the person will see that they are paying way more than what they feel comfortable, and maybe stop gambling, which is an activity they enjoy.

So, many people just don't want to see that reality because they want to gamble again.

Same with alcohol, if you enjoy drinking it, you won't bother paying high prices for it, whereas paying for other things at the same price would be a big no for the same person.

Human behavior is so interesting!
For me, It's not that important if you track all your records in gambling or not. I'm aware that it will be helpful for some gamblers because they can monitor their total spending amounts most specially if they know their limits and needs to control their money to avoid losing much  but for other gamblers who used to gamble and majority of the time they played is all about losing, It will be a bit frustrating because it reminds them of things that should be forgotten and never looked back on.

That's one of the bad side of monitoring your records, as you will keep remembering your losses and the amount that you will try to recover,
most of the time, a gambler who knew the amount that he had already lost, got that mindset to try and recover.

Factors that will possibly bring you to keep trying, though the good catch is if you know your limits and you can control your emotions, since you
can stop and you can enjoy it if ever that you win some, having those records will let you keep on track and update regarding your finances.
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For me, It's not that important if you track all your records in gambling or not. I'm aware that it will be helpful for some gamblers because they can monitor their total spending amounts most specially if they know their limits and needs to control their money to avoid losing much  but for other gamblers who used to gamble and majority of the time they played is all about losing, It will be a bit frustrating because it reminds them of things that should be forgotten and never looked back on.
Of course, this will make them frustrated with the losses they have experienced, especially if the losses were very large. But they only feel this frustration for a short time because when they return to gambling again, they will not feel frustrated but will try to recover their losses. Having financial records about their gambling can actually help them to see how much money they are using for gambling so they can start reducing their gambling activities. But what happens is that there are still many gamblers who don't pay attention to this and instead gamble more often because they have the hope of recovering their losses. This is where they really need to realize that by recording their gambling activities and seeing how many deposits and withdrawals they make, they can conclude that gambling is not suitable for them. They don't need to gamble too often.

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November 20, 2023, 04:10:29 PM
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Of course, this will make them frustrated with the losses they have experienced, especially if the losses were very large. But they only feel this frustration for a short time because when they return to gambling again, they will not feel frustrated but will try to recover their losses. Having financial records about their gambling can actually help them to see how much money they are using for gambling so they can start reducing their gambling activities. But what happens is that there are still many gamblers who don't pay attention to this and instead gamble more often because they have the hope of recovering their losses. This is where they really need to realize that by recording their gambling activities and seeing how many deposits and withdrawals they make, they can conclude that gambling is not suitable for them. They don't need to gamble too often.

Actually it's not like that,but if you keep the gambling records,it help you to understand the total loss or gain at the end of the day in the gambling sites.If you had made the continuous loss or gain in the gambling sites,So you may keep the calculation in the memory of your brain itself,the gambling will give the random loss and gain.So the gambler should keep their win and loss in the separate spreadsheet.It helps you to understand the current loss or profit y yourself in the gambling sites.Even you can target the loss of the gambling sites in the future game,but targeting loss was never recommended in gambling.If you had some good dollars for the back up,you can target the loss in the gambling sites.So the loss was recovered in the upcoming games in the gambling sites.
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November 20, 2023, 04:20:16 PM
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For me, It's not that important if you track all your records in gambling or not. I'm aware that it will be helpful for some gamblers because they can monitor their total spending amounts most specially if they know their limits and needs to control their money to avoid losing much  but for other gamblers who used to gamble and majority of the time they played is all about losing, It will be a bit frustrating because it reminds them of things that should be forgotten and never looked back on.
Of course, this will make them frustrated with the losses they have experienced, especially if the losses were very large. But they only feel this frustration for a short time because when they return to gambling again, they will not feel frustrated but will try to recover their losses. Having financial records about their gambling can actually help them to see how much money they are using for gambling so they can start reducing their gambling activities. But what happens is that there are still many gamblers who don't pay attention to this and instead gamble more often because they have the hope of recovering their losses. This is where they really need to realize that by recording their gambling activities and seeing how many deposits and withdrawals they make, they can conclude that gambling is not suitable for them. They don't need to gamble too often.

If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
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November 20, 2023, 06:36:15 PM
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If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
And that is one of the massive advantages of record keeping, if you look at the amount of money you have spent gambling over the years and you cringe about it and you think you have lost a lot of money, then that is a clear sign that you should slow down for a bit or even stop gambling for some time, as in my particular case I do know that number, or at least my best estimation of that number, and I do not have any problem with the money I have lost over the years.

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November 20, 2023, 10:02:20 PM
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If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
And that is one of the massive advantages of record keeping, if you look at the amount of money you have spent gambling over the years and you cringe about it and you think you have lost a lot of money, then that is a clear sign that you should slow down for a bit or even stop gambling for some time, as in my particular case I do know that number, or at least my best estimation of that number, and I do not have any problem with the money I have lost over the years.

Not keeping the track record of one's gambling activities does not make a bad gambler, we have a particular reason for doing or not doing that, what are we to talk about the gambling addicts and other abusers, are they not a to be considered the bad ones here than when you choose not to have the record of what can make you change your decision on gambling after realizing what you're spending there is too much, some don't even have a savings yet they always contributed to gambling each day, what an irony, track record does not make a good gambler.

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November 20, 2023, 10:55:48 PM
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That's one of the bad side of monitoring your records, as you will keep remembering your losses and the amount that you will try to recover,
most of the time, a gambler who knew the amount that he had already lost, got that mindset to try and recover.

Factors that will possibly bring you to keep trying, though the good catch is if you know your limits and you can control your emotions, since you
can stop and you can enjoy it if ever that you win some, having those records will let you keep on track and update regarding your finances.

If you really want to make money from gambling you can't escape the fact that you need to have detailed records of the amounts you have lost and won.

Otherwise the gambler will probably just simply "forget" about some big losses and only care about the big wins that happen once in a while.

In that case, the gambler will feel good, but in reality they have paid way more than what they have earned.

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November 21, 2023, 02:57:26 AM
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If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
And that is one of the massive advantages of record keeping, if you look at the amount of money you have spent gambling over the years and you cringe about it and you think you have lost a lot of money, then that is a clear sign that you should slow down for a bit or even stop gambling for some time, as in my particular case I do know that number, or at least my best estimation of that number, and I do not have any problem with the money I have lost over the years.
It is true that recording betting results in the last few months can provide benefits to better regulate the gambling activities they carry out and can enable them to have limits or control so as not to experience bigger losses like those in the records.
But another impact is the emergence of feeling of disappointment with what one has done because one has spent very large amount of money and even the winnings as return do not reach half of the amount that was used during that time.
All actions always have good and bad and it depends on us how we think and respond to each action.
But so far I don't think many gamblers have recorded their gambling history because it takes time and is little more complicated by taking into account every bet that has been made over several months or several years.

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November 21, 2023, 03:35:20 AM
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That's one of the bad side of monitoring your records, as you will keep remembering your losses and the amount that you will try to recover,
most of the time, a gambler who knew the amount that he had already lost, got that mindset to try and recover.
I know that I already spent a decent amount in my gambling activity from then until now and the idea of keeping records of my losses can't help me to move on. So what's the point? Some gamblers might think that they need to keep playing to recover those losses (if they record it) and it doesn't feel good to have such feeling of guilt or eager to chase it back. Therefore I better record my remarkable winnings rather than the losses because good memories are worth remembering.

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Not keeping the track record of one's gambling activities does not make a bad gambler, we have a particular reason for doing or not doing that, what are we to talk about the gambling addicts and other abusers, are they not a to be considered the bad ones here than when you choose not to have the record of what can make you change your decision on gambling after realizing what you're spending there is too much, some don't even have a savings yet they always contributed to gambling each day, what an irony, track record does not make a good gambler.
Memories flies everywhere, I've personally decided not to keep records for anything related to gambling. Everyone knows the reason why they keep records of every single details about the outcomes in the system, while some have reasons why they don't keep records, we're all different human beings and we have tasks to fulfilled this season, so we keep trying to ensure to carry out our very best, inother not to make wrong steps that will make us triggered losses. Keeping records of losses and winnings will only bring back old memories and awful events, because there's existence of both bad and good results.

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November 21, 2023, 05:26:20 AM
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That's one of the bad side of monitoring your records, as you will keep remembering your losses and the amount that you will try to recover,
most of the time, a gambler who knew the amount that he had already lost, got that mindset to try and recover.

Or it could be the other way around? Looking at the record of your total loses might make you realize that maybe gambling is not the way how you want it to be to become rich. One might going to be regretful that if he kept this amount he could've invested it somewhere with less risks, it could've earned profit already.
On contrary, people who pursue his loses and eager to make an attempt in retrieving them by continuosly gambling, may unlikely to succeed but will worsen the accumulated loses instead.

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November 21, 2023, 04:06:29 PM
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If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
And that is one of the massive advantages of record keeping, if you look at the amount of money you have spent gambling over the years and you cringe about it and you think you have lost a lot of money, then that is a clear sign that you should slow down for a bit or even stop gambling for some time, as in my particular case I do know that number, or at least my best estimation of that number, and I do not have any problem with the money I have lost over the years.
Not keeping the track record of one's gambling activities does not make a bad gambler, we have a particular reason for doing or not doing that, what are we to talk about the gambling addicts and other abusers, are they not a to be considered the bad ones here than when you choose not to have the record of what can make you change your decision on gambling after realizing what you're spending there is too much, some don't even have a savings yet they always contributed to gambling each day, what an irony, track record does not make a good gambler.
Whether you keep track of your gambling activities or not, it will not decide if you are a good or bad gambler. Each of us has our reasons for deciding whether to keep track of our gambling activities or not. If you continue to gamble despite significant losses and do not modify your behavior, knowing your total loss records is irrelevant. A good gambler, for me, has extra money for gambling only and strictly stays within the allocated budget. Even if you lose on a weekly or daily basis, it will not have a significant impact on your life, relationships, finances, or family.
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November 21, 2023, 09:46:31 PM
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Actually it's not like that,but if you keep the gambling records,it help you to understand the total loss or gain at the end of the day in the gambling sites.If you had made the continuous loss or gain in the gambling sites,So you may keep the calculation in the memory of your brain itself,the gambling will give the random loss and gain.So the gambler should keep their win and loss in the separate spreadsheet.It helps you to understand the current loss or profit y yourself in the gambling sites.Even you can target the loss of the gambling sites in the future game,but targeting loss was never recommended in gambling.If you had some good dollars for the back up,you can target the loss in the gambling sites.So the loss was recovered in the upcoming games in the gambling sites.
If someone has experienced a lot of losses and writes it down in his gambling notes, it will indirectly be recorded in his brain's memory so that his subconscious will want him to try to recover his losses. He wouldn't realize that desire even if he actually continued gambling after his losing streak. But if he could control himself, he would not try to recover his losses because he already knew that it would only increase the number of losses even greater. He will be able to accept the losses he has recorded, and he will only try to reduce the number of losses so that in the next month, he can see a large reduction in the number of losses. He will also not target to reach the winning amount because he knows that getting winnings from gambling is difficult to achieve.

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If they did not keep track of their records, it is possible that they would simply set aside a limited amount of money for gambling in order to keep their own losses under control. It's depressing to know how much money you've lost over the course of your gambling career, but it could be a sign that you need to stop gambling or put some restrictions on how much you gamble.
If they can really control themselves while gambling, they don't need a gambling record because they can control the amount of their losses. And it is true that we are the ones who should regulate the amount of money we use for gambling and not follow our desires of wanting to win. Moreover, we already have an experience where if we chase a win, we may experience even greater loss. So it's better for them to just accept whatever the result is and they can go back to gambling again another day.

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November 21, 2023, 09:55:30 PM
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I know that I already spent a decent amount in my gambling activity from then until now and the idea of keeping records of my losses can't help me to move on. So what's the point? Some gamblers might think that they need to keep playing to recover those losses (if they record it) and it doesn't feel good to have such feeling of guilt or eager to chase it back. Therefore I better record my remarkable winnings rather than the losses because good memories are worth remembering.
That guilt is for real.

When you see the entire amount of how much you've spent in gambling makes you wanna go for more and recover them.

And if it's not working for you and you just feel all of those losses is giving you a heartbreak, much better to just release it and don't keep records.

But if someone has a good reason for keeping it or it satisfies them, that's a good reason for them to keep the records.

While if it's not helping you, leave it.



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November 21, 2023, 10:21:59 PM
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That's one of the bad side of monitoring your records, as you will keep remembering your losses and the amount that you will try to recover,
most of the time, a gambler who knew the amount that he had already lost, got that mindset to try and recover.

Or it could be the other way around? Looking at the record of your total loses might make you realize that maybe gambling is not the way how you want it to be to become rich. One might going to be regretful that if he kept this amount he could've invested it somewhere with less risks, it could've earned profit already.
On contrary, people who pursue his loses and eager to make an attempt in retrieving them by continuosly gambling, may unlikely to succeed but will worsen the accumulated loses instead.
Regrets do always come at the end on which you would really be only be able to realize when its too late. When you do gamble then you should really be only spending on the amount
on which you can only afford to lose and it would really be just that fine that you wont really be making or putting up some records since those amounts are really that bound for
doing gambling because on the time that you do see that you are spending up tons of money on doing gambling even on a gradual manner then it would really be resulting
into those kind of thoughts that what if you have invested those amounts? Its true that it would really be creating that kind of what ifs and regrets in the end of the line.

Keeping record is simply that wont really be that ideal for me because im a person whose really love on regretting whenever i do see significant amounts
that had been wasted on playing gambling.

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Not everyone is into statistics, I would say keep it simple.  It is a game or leisure activity after all.  Some might find a benefit from tracking all they are doing exactly, sports bettors Ive heard of tracking exact outcomes vs odds offered and % available profit vs actual placed bets.    However so long as you keep to a set budget and dont exceed that, I think it more then likely is going to stay purely fun and many keep track in their head which is fine imo.   Dont think I ever had a perfect records kept outside of the website itself allowing me to go back years to look at match results vs bets etc.

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November 22, 2023, 12:39:28 PM
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Not everyone is into statistics, I would say keep it simple.  It is a game or leisure activity after all.  Some might find a benefit from tracking all they are doing exactly, sports bettors Ive heard of tracking exact outcomes vs odds offered and % available profit vs actual placed bets.    However so long as you keep to a set budget and dont exceed that, I think it more then likely is going to stay purely fun and many keep track in their head which is fine imo.   Dont think I ever had a perfect records kept outside of the website itself allowing me to go back years to look at match results vs bets etc.

Well, it is not a game for some people really. These are the people that seriously want to make a buck at the casino.

The level of enjoyment they get is proportional to the amount they win.

That means that most of them are not very happy while gambling.

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When you write down the results, you can estimate the probability of a particular number falling out, and allocate your bets more intelligently. Although probability theory is a relative theory. There is always a chance of hitting a losing streak
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I'm saying something, when we see previous record losses, that usually doesn't give much encouragement, let's say, if we start from the point of view that we are in the red or negative numbers, what we do from then on will be a lot of pressure, a lot stress, because we want things to be much more efficient, and the thing is that if we start with the good record and suddenly what we do is pure loss, that is something that can lower our spirits even a lot, so when we are in those cases we can do everything possible to start things well, if we are people who have control then it is something that can be taken as a good thing, because if per day we spend 10usd to spend (for example) and of those 10usd we take it to 12 Well, it's not bad, we are starting well, we can leave it there and use that same balance of 10usd without touching the 2usd profit to subtract from the previous losses, if we continue with a streak of 1 or 3usd per day that Ahaha, that's a great success, at least that's how I see it.

Of course there are people who always look for big profits, because they say that small profits is not a good result, in itself it is not, but if we add that daily, little by little we will recover everything, and that is the idea we have I have to be very emphatic and have a lot of discipline, and even though it is very difficult to accomplish this, it is a reality that it is a very profitable way to be able to play money in a casino and add up, of course it is my own strategy, not just I have copied from no one, I am only applying a strategy that I have in trading and that has given me good results, whether good or bad, it works for me and I want to apply it in gambling, and so far it is good, of course not per day I can only spend 10usd if I am unlucky that day, because it doesn't matter, if I spend only 10usd without doing anything, I leave it like that and continue the next day, but it is important not to deposit more than 10usd.


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November 24, 2023, 08:40:53 PM
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For me, It's not that important if you track all your records in gambling or not. I'm aware that it will be helpful for some gamblers because they can monitor their total spending amounts most specially if they know their limits and needs to control their money to avoid losing much  but for other gamblers who used to gamble and majority of the time they played is all about losing, It will be a bit frustrating because it reminds them of things that should be forgotten and never looked back on.
Most online casinos do have a track record of how much you have spent gambling in a particular month or over the week so if you want to at anytime check through the records you could go to history and find a full track record of how much you have spent over a period of time.

Keeping track record of how much you have spent gambling over a period of time will most likely get you to chasing losses, it will be much better if you make a budget monthly or weekly and keep to it, that way without going through the records, you will know how much you have spent so far and you will not be pushed to chasing losses because already you had had in mind to forfeit such amount if it turns out that way and you have lesser chances of chasing losses.

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November 24, 2023, 08:51:13 PM
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Keep records of your wins or looses in gambling are not necessarily rated by credit of good or bad behavior rather keeping your the winnings and looses on track could help to either encourage you to move forward or backwards on your gambling.

Before I engaged on gambling, I have a friend who usually bets but can't tell if he is addicted, so, he is always in fund of public announcing his wins and not his lost simply because I asks him to be mindful of how he bets because he could bet out of emotions to win and get to loose more.

In some occasions he has come to say to me that he won $100 with just $10, winning $200 with $70 and all that.
He makes this know to me so I could see how he takes leads to the winning roles hopefully for him to understand that he has always been a winner.
This is the same guy who looses over $500 a week but if he wins $300-$500 in a month he feels taking the leads then I have to ask me to calculate how much he has lost totally by the month before this winning.
Then he realized he has been loosing more to gambling despites the fact he could win hugely but that winning only comes once while.

The necessity of tracking your bets is necessarily a concerned to maintain your gambling strategies or possibly to determine your looses and winnings.

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November 25, 2023, 01:44:11 AM
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Most online casinos do have a track record of how much you have spent gambling in a particular month or over the week so if you want to at anytime check through the records you could go to history and find a full track record of how much you have spent over a period of time.

Keeping track record of how much you have spent gambling over a period of time will most likely get you to chasing losses, it will be much better if you make a budget monthly or weekly and keep to it, that way without going through the records, you will know how much you have spent so far and you will not be pushed to chasing losses because already you had had in mind to forfeit such amount if it turns out that way and you have lesser chances of chasing losses.

Yeah, in my mind the behavior of trying to recover losses is probably the most negative one in gambling.

I think doing that actually might leave the gambler bankrupt faster than any other behavior.

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November 27, 2023, 06:44:58 PM
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Not everyone is into statistics, I would say keep it simple.  It is a game or leisure activity after all.  Some might find a benefit from tracking all they are doing exactly, sports bettors Ive heard of tracking exact outcomes vs odds offered and % available profit vs actual placed bets.    However so long as you keep to a set budget and dont exceed that, I think it more then likely is going to stay purely fun and many keep track in their head which is fine imo.   Dont think I ever had a perfect records kept outside of the website itself allowing me to go back years to look at match results vs bets etc.
If you enjoy doing something then it is to be expected that the more you do activities related to that something that you like the more fun you will have, and keeping track of track of your capital is not really optional in gambling as it could be in other hobbies as money is an integral part of gambling, and while not keeping records is not going to hinder the average gambler, it is a massive disadvantage for those that have the tendency to chase their losses and for those that aspire to become professional gamblers.

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Not everyone is into statistics, I would say keep it simple.  It is a game or leisure activity after all.  Some might find a benefit from tracking all they are doing exactly, sports bettors Ive heard of tracking exact outcomes vs odds offered and % available profit vs actual placed bets.    However so long as you keep to a set budget and dont exceed that, I think it more then likely is going to stay purely fun and many keep track in their head which is fine imo.   Dont think I ever had a perfect records kept outside of the website itself allowing me to go back years to look at match results vs bets etc.
If you enjoy doing something then it is to be expected that the more you do activities related to that something that you like the more fun you will have, and keeping track of track of your capital is not really optional in gambling as it could be in other hobbies as money is an integral part of gambling, and while not keeping records is not going to hinder the average gambler, it is a massive disadvantage for those that have the tendency to chase their losses and for those that aspire to become professional gamblers.

Well, when I think about game logs, what comes to mind is doing anything in the game and putting it in an excel sheet , and the truth is I'm a very lazy person, I don't do it, nor would I. I know myself and I wouldn't do it, maybe another person who has more patience with each of his movements can handle something like that, but that becomes a job, which I don't Know if it's Useful in the long run, the only thing I hated Keeping a record is with respect to the money that is introduced into a casino and the money that is spent, if all the money increases or disappears, I think those are the things that we should see, I would make that record, I would not make another one. , because I think that my personality is not one of that style , I think that when things are about money one has to be a fairly careful person, that is why money is the main source to do anything, because without money there is no party , and that is something that can Happen.

In retrospect, to generate more money in a casino , if you want, you keep a record, but I think that what can be done is good expense management in the casino, for my part I have to do things, I have my own style to be able to be profitable in a casino, the bad thing is that it is long term and that is what many do not have time to do , Personally I think that things always happen in favor of what can be generated, but it is my own technique and it is somewhat boring, it is constant but very minimal earnings, so the majority of players do not like that because what they are looking for are medium earnings and if they can get large earnings much better, to reach that level it is You have to risk a lot of money and that's what I don't do, what I do is risk a Little money to have few Profits , because if I lose money it doesn't matter , it's the money I had for that , to lose , so in this order of ideas some Strategists preparing for a casino are not all the Same.

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