Energy Crisis 2.0 in the New World Order era

[franky1]

Plus just because there are entities in China, or in whatever country, that are making it easier for ordinary people to gain more access to Gold, phyisical or paper, it doesn't necessarily mean they're selling their Gold hoard. It's laughable to have those foolish assumptions, or foolish posts, merely to gaslight people into questioning the right information and make the gaslighter look smart.

Be careful in the real world, frankandbeans. Gaslighting might be becoming second nature to you.

whilst this is a energy topic YOU seem to want to just keep it derailed into a gold topic and a copied insult flurry of nonsense..
so lets handle you one more time..

you might want to look at the form of payment the chinese government planned and are giving out for the funding of the real estate completions, to re-energise the real estate market and not make it decline, you know, in the topic where you pointed out in-complete developed properties from private developers where you tried to use it as evidence of chinese gov's economy being bad
or is research too good for you, you prefer staying ignorant huffing gas fearing someone wanting to enlighten you

funny part is
private developers rushed too soon to develop properties before next decades baby boom demand. so PRIVATE developers failed..
during that time china was ignoring the issue(not their problem it was hong kongs problem at most) and mainland china happily just went on investing in gold

you tried to twist it as a sign of mainland chinese gov failure. and then doubled down saying chinese government going into crisis  having to money print their way out of the real estate issues..

reality is no, gov made their profit on gold and now ready to sell remove their gold exposure. before the post-ATH correction back down to value, so willing to give anyone that buys a unfinished property at market rate(so owners can fund the new developers that will finish them, without crashing the market rate) and china will give the owner a kg of gold as a back hander thanks, to avoid a money print and avoid a real estate market crash by not having to sell plots below market rate

try to do research and stay away from the gas fumes. you will only get burned when you decide the gas fumes are the only thing you want to touch your mind when someone tries to then enlighten your mind

anyway..
if you want to buy gold at ATH. and hoard it until the correction and sell at a loss due to lower fuel cost mining making it cheaper to have a lower average gold price again AKA buy high sell low aka sell at loss.. well you carry on with your own bad economic plan, just dont cry later about it and dont play victim

the energy crisis of crash of 2020 and inflation of 2021 is old news now.. we are getting back to norms..

..i do laugh how you live upside down to reality.. but cry how everyone else is wrong.. but ill leave you to your mistakes as you are the one that will victimise yourself with your mistakes

ill check back on you in a couple years and ask you how your $2k/oz gold purchases are doing.. and then ill laugh once more
(if you cant even get the economic hints from the oil/fuel costs relaxing(this topic) aiding gold mining thus impacting gold price..  and china now wanting to reduce its gold exposure after the 2 year buy up that got it to do its ATH (of the other economics topic).. to aid you in informing you its a bad time to buy gold at ATH before the correction.. thats all on you now)

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[Wind_FURY]

Plus just because there are entities in China, or in whatever country, that are making it easier for ordinary people to gain more access to Gold, phyisical or paper, it doesn't necessarily mean they're selling their Gold hoard. It's laughable to have those foolish assumptions, or foolish posts, merely to gaslight people into questioning the right information and make the gaslighter look smart.

Be careful in the real world, frankandbeans. Gaslighting might be becoming second nature to you.

whilst this is a energy topic YOU seem to want to just keep it derailed into a gold topic and a copied insult flurry of nonsense..

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Frankandbeans, listen to me. Nothing in what you have posted changes the FACT that China's Gold reserves has been increasing because of the FACT that they're HOARDING the commodity.

PLUS, you may say that it's off-topic for the thread, BUT a New World Order under the leadership of China would never be possible if they didn't have a very large Gold reserve because the path that they're taking might be that might involve a war with the United States. It's a fall-back plan.

[pooya87]

2.3) Specific to UK, all these costs are higher because UK decided to join US and London in support of genocide, declared war on Yemen that supports Palestine. That effectively turned all British vessels into legitimate targets which has not only increased all those costs but also increased shortage (nobody wants to work for UK and British or British linked ships are attacked/damaged).

Some stats are coming about regarding this situation I mentioned here:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/feb/25/more-than-half-of-uk-retailers-affected-by-houthi-disruption-survey-shows
"The price of shipping a container from Asia to Europe has gone up by as much as 300% for some businesses, while logistical delays have added up to three to four weeks to delivery times, according to the survey by the British Chambers of Commerce (BCC)."

Although this is mainly about retailers and exporters but this also affects energy shipments the same way.
Also considering the fact that this war entered the third phase (first phase was verbal warning and blockade, second phase was attacks using weapons to damage vessels, third phase is using weapons to sink them) things could get worse for supporters of genocide.

[cabron]

Plus just because there are entities in China, or in whatever country, that are making it easier for ordinary people to gain more access to Gold, phyisical or paper, it doesn't necessarily mean they're selling their Gold hoard. It's laughable to have those foolish assumptions, or foolish posts, merely to gaslight people into questioning the right information and make the gaslighter look smart.

Be careful in the real world, frankandbeans. Gaslighting might be becoming second nature to you.

whilst this is a energy topic YOU seem to want to just keep it derailed into a gold topic and a copied insult flurry of nonsense..

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Frankandbeans, listen to me. Nothing in what you have posted changes the FACT that China's Gold reserves has been increasing because of the FACT that they're HOARDING the commodity.

PLUS, you may say that it's off-topic for the thread, BUT a New World Order under the leadership of China would never be possible if they didn't have a very large Gold reserve because the path that they're taking might be that might involve a war with the United States. It's a fall-back plan.

I don't think China has a plan to create war with the US. In terms of economics, their supply routes are not interrupted by the wars and they are not going into the path of recession. Although there may have been setbacks like the real estate crash, their economy still is stronger with the help of BRI. They are not going to ruin this momentum with a war with the US.

 The only thing that could get China into war with the US is if they insist on taking over Taiwan by force but they could just wait til something happens since NATO seems to be using brute force in Ukraine or something happens on US soil itself since this election is crucial to what could happen next.

And true, I don't think they will sell Gold. It's their property to ensure the BRICS nations can back up their currency.

[franky1]

Frankandbeans, listen to me. Nothing in what you have posted changes the FACT that China's Gold reserves has been increasing because of the FACT that they're HOARDING the commodity.

so you admit china had the money 2020-2023 to buy gold.. ok thanks for debunking yourself on another side topic.
they bought in 2021-22 (average $1.6k) and now have hoard at $2k average..
looks healthy investment to me
especially if in 2024 they can hand out gold bricks as 'cashback' back-handers to support the real estate market, where a $75k gold brick only cost them $60k.. plus those deals get people buying real estate to then accumulate another $175k from real estate project sales, where they got property for free due to grabbing up evergrande property

PLUS, you may say that it's off-topic for the thread, BUT a New World Order under the leadership of China would never be possible if they didn't have a very large Gold reserve because the path that they're taking might be that might involve a war with the United States. It's a fall-back plan.

funny thing is.. US faked their #1 ranking on their own listings..
i hope(but never expect from you) to research the whole debt defined as GDP math.
and you will see why US is happy to raise the debt ceiling to retain its foundations as #1.. problem is the US debt in REALITY is hurting the US

when people stop watching things in $USD and start watching world economics in lots of domestic prices.. the USD will start to show its points of rust where it pretended to be gold/stainless steal

the US wants to be a net exporter(previous strangle holds via trade commission terms), to draw value into the US via giving away US goods at luxury prices.. but when other countries start to say no.. US domino's start to tumble

i know you are itching to reply 'but us sales of Iphone in asia are up' no they are not, shipments are up. but asia are not buying. instead they are filtering them on to other US sanctioned countries so that its asia that get the sales from destination countries, the US does not sell directly to.
also the iphone shipments are small in comparison to other phones combined, (and actual sales in asia.. )

[Wind_FURY]

Plus just because there are entities in China, or in whatever country, that are making it easier for ordinary people to gain more access to Gold, phyisical or paper, it doesn't necessarily mean they're selling their Gold hoard. It's laughable to have those foolish assumptions, or foolish posts, merely to gaslight people into questioning the right information and make the gaslighter look smart.

Be careful in the real world, frankandbeans. Gaslighting might be becoming second nature to you.

whilst this is a energy topic YOU seem to want to just keep it derailed into a gold topic and a copied insult flurry of nonsense..

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Frankandbeans, listen to me. Nothing in what you have posted changes the FACT that China's Gold reserves has been increasing because of the FACT that they're HOARDING the commodity.

PLUS, you may say that it's off-topic for the thread, BUT a New World Order under the leadership of China would never be possible if they didn't have a very large Gold reserve because the path that they're taking might be that might involve a war with the United States. It's a fall-back plan.

I don't think China has a plan to create war with the US. In terms of economics, their supply routes are not interrupted by the wars and they are not going into the path of recession. Although there may have been setbacks like the real estate crash, their economy still is stronger with the help of BRI. They are not going to ruin this momentum with a war with the US.

 The only thing that could get China into war with the US is if they insist on taking over Taiwan by force but they could just wait til something happens since NATO seems to be using brute force in Ukraine or something happens on US soil itself since this election is crucial to what could happen next.

And true, I don't think they will sell Gold. It's their property to ensure the BRICS nations can back up their currency.

I believe they wouldn't have a choice, unless they don't want to be leading the New World Order. But who will lead it? Russia, India? That wouldn't also be in China's plans, no?

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China’s central bank is ramping up its gold reserves. In fact, it’s spearheading the “record levels of central bank purchases” of gold worldwide.

The People’s Bank of China (PBoC) purchased a total of 225 tons of the precious metal in 2023, lifting its gold reserves to 2,235 tons, according to the latest data released by the World Gold Council (WGC).

So why is the world’s second largest economy stocking up on something that does not bear any interest and is far more difficult to use in actual transactions than the highly liquid US dollar-denominated securities preferred by most nations?

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/does-chinas-nonstop-gold-purchase-show-shift-away-from-us-dollar-16751433

Please confirm that that's not actually true.

If China wants to lead the "New World Order", it needs to have a very large Gold Reserve. Because if they don't, Russia will do it.

Russia's gold reserves increased to 2,350 tons by the end of 2023, according to figures released by the country's central bank on Monday.
In December 2023, Russia increased its holdings of gold reserves by 34.6 tons from the previous month to 2,350 tons, and the value of the gold reserves reached a record high of 155.9 billion U.S. dollars, the Bank of Russia said.

As a result, Russia's gold reserves made up 26 percent of its international reserves, the highest level since March 2000.

https://english.news.cn/20240116/8d23f41f47dd4fed8439a080dc66d243/c.html

[franky1]

"NewWorldOrder" is not a plan of  "china #1 superpower". . nor "china own all the gold forever"
its actually more of a BRICS commonwealth.. china is trying to get away from single superpower infighting

energy crisis in the future will be trying to interconnect countries world wide where by the sunny side of planet can sell excess solar energy to dark side of planet like they are trying to turn northern africa into solar far, but then cable it into europe/middle east to sell the excess as the planet rotates

fossil reserves are going to diminish within half a century anyway, no matter if you want to blame NWO or climate or whatever reason for the transition away from fossil, thus not a crisis. but more of a predicament

[pooya87]

I don't think China has a plan to create war with the US. In terms of economics, their supply routes are not interrupted by the wars and they are not going into the path of recession.

I believe they wouldn't have a choice, unless they don't want to be leading the New World Order. But who will lead it? Russia, India? That wouldn't also be in China's plans, no?

A couple of things:
Chinese strategy has always been to act like a weasel. They did it during the Cold War between US and USSR and benefited greatly and have been following that strategy ever since, even today that US has officially declared war on China.
So yes, China doesn't want to fight US but US does. Look at what US considers #1 threat.

As for trade routes, I disagree with @carbon. All of them are threatened and disrupted by armed conflicts and cold wars.
In the sea, US is threatening China by controlling all the waterways specially in chokepoints namely Malacca. In fact one of the reasons why US has suddenly became so interested in Taiwan is to destabilize Chinese routes in the seas.
On the ground is the same too. The Belt and Road initiative goes through a bunch of countries. Check their list and see how every single one of them has been destabilized over the past couple of years (eg. Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, ...). Even tiny ones that could fall into a teeny tiny part of that route like Armenia!

As for the New World Order, things will go back to "normal" like before. Meaning a world where there is NOT a single power but multiple powers in the world. This is why we see multiple "blocs" usually economic blocs forming and getting stronger, one of which is BRICS.
In other words China will not replace US but will only be one of the powers (in East Asia). Russia will be another specially after defeating NATO in Ukraine (in North Asia and possibly eastern Europe). Iran is the other in West Asia. And finally if US doesn't fall apart like USSR, it will be the power in the West (includes Europe).

As for India, it has a lot of work to reach a "hegemony" status and is far from it. For now they are doing what China did decades ago, attracting foreign investors and strengthening economy. They don't yet have a strong and unifying ideology either. For example Modi is trying to establish his right wing Hinduism as the nationwide unifying ideology but it is radical and internally it is starting to cause chaos that in long term could tear India apart if they continue like this and fail.

[Wind_FURY]

I don't think China has a plan to create war with the US. In terms of economics, their supply routes are not interrupted by the wars and they are not going into the path of recession.

I believe they wouldn't have a choice, unless they don't want to be leading the New World Order. But who will lead it? Russia, India? That wouldn't also be in China's plans, no?

A couple of things:
Chinese strategy has always been to act like a weasel.

Let me stop you there, because to be the leading Super Power in the New World Order, they can't act like a weasel forever. That "act", if maintained, will be the defeat of Russia and China's other allies. How then will the "New World Order" be acheived?

Plus it's laughable to have the presumption that China doesn't want to be the leader.

"NewWorldOrder" is not a plan of  "china #1 superpower". . nor "china own all the gold forever"
its actually more of a BRICS commonwealth.. china is trying to get away from single superpower infighting

energy crisis in the future will be trying to interconnect countries world wide where by the sunny side of planet can sell excess solar energy to dark side of planet like they are trying to turn northern africa into solar far, but then cable it into europe/middle east to sell the excess as the planet rotates

fossil reserves are going to diminish within half a century anyway, no matter if you want to blame NWO or climate or whatever reason for the transition away from fossil, thus not a crisis. but more of a predicament

OK, but that doesn't change the FACT that China and Russia have been building a Gold hoard. Whether it's for their preparation for the fight for their "New World Order", probably debatable. But it's probably also good to check the Gold/commodities purchases of the other countries in the "BRICS Commonwealth".

[martinex]

OK, but that doesn't change the FACT that China and Russia have been building a Gold hoard. Whether it's for their preparation for the fight for their "New World Order", probably debatable. But it's probably also good to check the Gold/commodities purchases of the other countries in the "BRICS Commonwealth".

Maybe it's not just gold, maybe the stock of basic food ingredients, China has also thought about and prepared from now on, even beforehand, where potential riots in the future will break out immediately, be it war or other major events if we observe at this time.

[pooya87]

Let me stop you there, because to be the leading Super Power in the New World Order, they can't act like a weasel forever. That "act", if maintained, will be the defeat of Russia and China's other allies. How then will the "New World Order" be acheived?

Plus it's laughable to have the presumption that China doesn't want to be the leader.

Well as I've always said, I don't believe the New World Order has any "leading super power". There will only be "power blocs". China may try to become US 2.0 (a unipolar world) after this New World Order (new new world order LOL) somewhere in 2050 maybe, but for now China alone can not even survive let alone want to be the solo power.

As for the weasel act and its consequences, you are on point although I wouldn't say "defeat" but it is putting pressure on others and I'd say the opposite could happen meaning if China keeps it up it could end up with the defeat of China itself. Keep in mind that in US National Security Strategy, China is considered enemy number one.
To keep this post short I won't get into the details of how with a simple shift US could do to China what they did to USSR, we can discuss it further if anyone is interested.

We're also already seeing this in BRICS where more members are complaining about how irresponsible China is acting specially in preventing the BRICS currency and SWIFT replacement from being introduced.

For the time being (possibly starting from 50's and specially during Cold War between US and USSR) this weasel strategy is the most beneficial for them so they'll keep it up. Just look what they're doing to their enemies in the West to see the benefits!
For example the deindustrialization of Europe (the competition in the markets), both US and Europe dependence on China that is growing every year! One of the biggest bag holders of US national debt is China, the biggest US/EU trade partner is China, the biggest US/EU trade deficit is with China and is growing, and a lot more.

Even in armed conflict the weasel act is helping China. Every bullet US shoots in another direction is a win for China.
This is getting so bad that even the thinktanks in Washington are raising alarms. The most recent one I read was about the $2 million dollar defensive missiles that US Navy has an extremely short supply of that are being wasted in the Red Sea trying to shoot down $20k drones and failing all to support genocide of Palestinians. Meanwhile the budget situation in US is so bad that Biden has only been capable of dedicating a tiny amount of money for such a small number of them that would only be enough for a couple of destroyers and not even fill their supplies they were building them for the possible future Taiwan invasion and any possible face off with China in the sea and they've already run out of these missiles...

[franky1]

One of the biggest bag holders of US national debt is China, the biggest US/EU trade partner is China, the biggest US/EU trade deficit is with China and is growing, and a lot more.

Even in armed conflict the weasel act is helping China. Every bullet US shoots in another direction is a win for China.

is growing??

china de-dollarised its risk by selling them debt bonds..
(from 2000-2011 china gained upto $1.3trill of US bonds... in the last 2 years (2021-23) china dropped that down by half to ~$750b as of november 2023)

side note about the war in ukraine/russia
for every US missile donated to ukraines defence, .. ukraine gives an equal value amount of hectares of land to private investors of blackrock

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as for what china wanted to then invest that spare $750b(of the $1.3b that was locked into bonds) in, ofcourse they bought gold.. but that doesnt mean they are going to hoard it forever, they are already talking about how to offload it into projects like real estate and silk road and collaboration with the middle easts smart cities projects

[Argoo]

Forget the fairy tale about the “second army of the world”, in Ukraine they have not been able to achieve any noticeable successes in two years,

...  Russia has been fighting the entire Western world in this war. What would Ukraine do without all that military and financial assistance from the west? Without that assistance the war would be long over.

Russia is not at war with the entire Western world. Yes, European countries, the USA and some others provide financial and military assistance to Ukraine. But military aid is too selective. Until now, the allies are afraid to transfer long-range missiles to Ukraine, such as the German TAURUS with a range of 500 kilometers, as well as other long-range missiles. Only those missiles that have a short firing range are transferred to the anti-aircraft missile systems supplied to Ukraine. If Russia had fought against the entire Western world, Ukraine would have already had the opportunity to destroy the Crimean Bridge, through which Russian troops are constantly supplied on the southern front, and without it, the front from the Crimean Bridge would have long since collapsed for the invaders.

In addition, Ukraine attacks military and dual-use targets on Russian territory mainly only with Ukrainian-made drones, which it is still modernizing. One can only imagine what would be happening now on Russian territory if at least the same number of missiles and shells that Russia is now launching into Ukraine had exploded there.

Ukraine also still does not have Western aviation or Western naval forces. If Russia had really collided militarily with the Western world, the war would have ended long ago, but not in Russia’s favor.

[pooya87]

long-range missiles to Ukraine, such as the German TAURUS with a range of 500 kilometers, as well as other long-range missiles.

Just because they've capped their aid to 100-300 km range, it doesn't mean a tiny bit higher range is categorized as "long range".
Generally speaking for cruise missiles 300-500 km range is still categorized as short range and barely enters the medium range category. Long range for cruise missiles starts from 1000 km range and above.

BTW something as weak as Taurus with its subsonic speed with a semi-light warhead and very weak accuracy is not helpful at all. There is a reasons the number of Taurus missiles produced and exported is extremely low.
If you want to use an example, at least use something decent. Even the shitty US made Tomahawk missiles with their high failure rate (1 out of 4 fails!) is much better than Taurus and is categorized as long-range for real (1700 km).

[franky1]

isnt it funny how russia has for decades said it has the best military and military inteliagence on the planet, on its path to being recognised as a superpower..
yet.. their actions of the last couple years do not live upto the catastrophic prophecy russia have been promoting they are capable of

EG playing devils advocate, if i was russia i would have(based on their promotions) used their so called precision missiles to in unison take out precision strikes on all ukrainian political buildings and military bases and void ukraine of any military response in one day

instead russia have been hitting random non important targets like residential apartment blocks and not precision striking all the meaningful targets

russia over the last couple years revealed they dont actually have the military power they promoted they had.

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that said all countries say they do too.. but when they pretend they can see an incoming missile/nuke on their sophisticated radars they pretend to have, how come they can never locate missing 747 planes(rhetorical)

[pooya87]

Man we're going waaaaaaay off topic here

isnt it funny how russia has for decades said it has the best military and military inteliagence on the planet, on its path to being recognised as a superpower..
yet.. their actions of the last couple years do not live upto the catastrophic prophecy russia have been promoting they are capable of

Superpowers like Russia and US (and by extension NATO) have weak militaries with fancy equipment. In my opinion there are 3 main reasons for it:

First and foremost is that they have not been in any actual wars for decades (most of them after WW2) and that has made them soft. Even US regime that has spent all its time in wars hasn't been fighting "actual" wars. For example if you check all the countries they've invaded in the past 3-4 decades, they either had no military at all (eg. Afghanistan) or were already disarmed and their military, government, etc. had fallen apart (eg. Iraq, Libya, Syria, ...).

Second reason is after they built their nukes, they thought they are protected so they mostly stopped developing their armed forces technologically. I'm not saying there hasn't been any development, but there weren't any where it counted. I believe they call it "conventional warfare with conventional weapons".

And finally the development they pursued was mostly a stupid competition between themselves. For example US built F35, Russia built Su57. US built aircraft carriers, Russia built aircraft carriers. This is why for instance when US regime spends hundreds of billions of dollars and almost 3 decades in research and development of the most advanced stealth aircraft (project called "The Beast") it turns out so pathetic that the moment it gets close to the borders of a much more technologically advanced country called Iran, it is not only detected very easily but also hacked into, taken control of, landed safely and then decrypted, reverse engineered and mass produced in a short time!

There is little ingenuity in warfare among these so called "super powers"... this is why they keep losing their wars in the long run.

if i was russia i would have(based on their promotions) used their so called precision missiles to in unison take out precision strikes on all ukrainian political buildings and military bases and void ukraine of any military response in one day

Your view of warfare is very far from reality, it's mostly something you see in Holywood.

Funny thing is that those idiots in Washington think like this too. Which is why they spent $12 trillion in West Asia in about 20 years and couldn't achieve any of their goals. We already saw how pathetically they escaped Afghanistan leaving behind $100 billion worth of weapons and ammunition for the cavemen called Taliban.
Things aren't significantly different for Moscow. In fact one of the first things I said when Russia invaded Ukraine was that Ukraine is Russia's Afghanistan.

[Argoo]

EG playing devils advocate, if i was russia i would have(based on their promotions) used their so called precision missiles to in unison take out precision strikes on all ukrainian political buildings and military bases and void ukraine of any military response in one day

Of course, Russia tried from the first days of its invasion to attack Kyiv and its central military and political organizations. Thus, it is known that in the first days of the invasion in the skies over Kiev, seven Russian military aircraft were shot down in just 11 minutes of battle, after which the Russian invaders became more cautious.
https://www.unian.net/war/zenitchik-rasskazal-kak-v-nachale-voyny-oboronyali-nebo-nad-kievom-novosti-kieva-11928549.html

Russia has also shelled the city of Kyiv and other Ukrainian cities, as well as military installations throughout Ukraine, since the early days of its invasion. Explosions were recorded in different parts of Kyiv, but in the central part, where the central authorities were located, there were practically no explosions. Most likely, Ukrainian air defense worked well there, which did not yet have the ability to effectively cover the sky over all of Kiev. But in response to a corresponding question, the Kremlin then said that they were not shelling the buildings of the central authorities of Kyiv because there was someone to sign the surrender of Ukraine.
In any case, later Putin’s army tried to destroy the central part of Kyiv, even using their new “dagger” missiles, but by that time Kyiv was under relatively reliable air defense protection. But rocket attacks on Kyiv and drone attacks have continued for the third year.

As for military facilities, the command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces secretly moved equipment, primarily aircraft, to alternate deployment sites before the attack, and this made it possible to preserve the bulk of aviation and other military equipment of Ukraine. Because of this, in the first months of a large-scale war, the Russians suffered staggering losses, forcing the aggressor army to withdraw its troops from central and northern Ukraine.

[franky1]

yes they shelled kiev.. but the accuracy is not as what the kremlim had been promoting they had the capability of for many decades.
it was not pinpoint targeting but more so like throwing a bunch of stones at an ant hoping atleast one stone hit an ant

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anyways yes getting off topic

the energy crisis was inevitable even without "climate" dues to fossil reserve depletions known about since the 1980's which lead to the gulf wars to grab control of middle eastern reserves for western utility

the new world order is not going to be a single currency super power offsetting the dollars position.. but instead a common wealth of multiple domestic currencies inter-communicating and transfering cross-border at exchange rates done on a next  gen market. whereby multiple countries of populations that far exceed US population by a factor of 10, will have more economic power combined to unbalance US position of control

[DrBeer]

Observing the situation on the energy market I observe a surprising picture. After hysterical and hasty attempts of the world terrorist country to destabilize the world energy market, after huge information pressure of the whole world, and promises to freeze, immobilize, ruin.... The market adapted quickly enough ! Hysterical statements, threats, even oil and gas from the country of the terrorist stopped buying in huge volumes, having found other adequate suppliers. And - nothing happened, the world did not collapse. It is very happy that the world, even with internal contradictions, finds strength and common sense, and solves artificially created problems!

PS And thanks to the higher powers for a beautiful winter

[franky1]

Observing the situation on the energy market I observe a surprising picture. After hysterical and hasty attempts of the world terrorist country to destabilize the world energy market, after huge information pressure of the whole world, and promises to freeze, immobilize, ruin.... The market adapted quickly enough ! Hysterical statements, threats, even oil and gas from the country of the terrorist stopped buying in huge volumes, having found other adequate suppliers. And - nothing happened, the world did not collapse. It is very happy that the world, even with internal contradictions, finds strength and common sense, and solves artificially created problems!

what i observed, from the UK although we produce our own oil/fission energy that enters our country domestically, we were slaves to the US controlled international market, even for our own supplies to ourselves.. so when the russia/ukraine stuff occurred. it did affect our own domestic prices of energy..* our country even had to hand out social security 'energy/living cost' payments of £300($380) 3 times a year

i would actually prefer a system that is less controlled by one central US market. where if we make our own energy we get to price it to ourselves at our own costs. and any excess we dont need we could set our own prices on the international market

because the UK is in the north and smaller land mass compared to say spain france, our position of solar potential is not as much as spain, nor as early in the day as france. so when we become reliant on solar and other renewables in a couple decades. we then become more ransomed to the EU supplies for our morning coffee and bean on toast(mainly central/eastern europe to supply us with energy first thing when people wake up and use electric showers, lights and kitchen appliances to get ready on dark days of winter mornings**

*(and i say all this when living in a region that has its own nuclear power plant, which still didnt keep my bills down, when my energy is nuclear based)

**right now at nearing 4:am UK we are in complete night time. however eastern Ukraine is in complete daylight. so if they joined EU and UK had trade deal with EU we could be servant to energy imports of eastern Ukraine for energy at 4am during winter mornings


this too seeds into land fighting over the eastern ukraine land. look at the other countries like spain france that can gain early morning(dark night) energy from full daylight eastern ukraine if it was part of europe.. i know blackrock see the potential when peoples heating switches on before they get out of bed

(same goes for land disputes for using western africa for UK/EU's evening heating and household needs, though i see it more likely to be a cable running from canada to greenland to iceland to UK to import canada's excess daylight energy when uk/EU goes dark)