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May 31, 2024, 07:34:52 PM
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In Ukraine, Ukrainians generally defend their country using a certain part of Western weapons. But this does not mean at all that Russia is now at war with NATO. If we proceed from this position, then we can also say that Ukraine is at war with both Iran and North Korea, because Russia has been using the weapons of these countries on Ukrainian territory for a long time.
You are comparing apples and oranges.

Iran, China and Russia has had relations for a long time. There has been many military cooperation as well. For example in the past 20+ years Iran and Russia have been fighting the US-backed terrorists including ISIS in Syria and Iraq. There have been many military exercises as well with China and Russia like the joint drills in Indian ocean and elsewhere ensuring the security of global trade routes.

There is obviously weapons sales among these countries according to international laws as well. After all over 90 countries are customers of advanced Iranian drones among a lot of other things (in the past one of those 90 countries has been Ukraine by the way purchasing certain artillery shell calibers only Iran manufactures). Iran doesn't dictate how they should use what they purchase and is not responsible for how they use it either.

That is not the same with Ukraine. Any weapons sent to Ukraine is not a sale, it is a hand out with a condition attached on how they are allowed to use these weapons as NATO dictates them and Ukraine obeys.
For example the radars they attacked in Russian territories over the past weeks (that long range early warning thing) is attacked under a direct order from United States. Otherwise hitting that radar has absolutely no benefit for Ukraine. It only benefits United States to weaken Russian Nuclear Defense against NATO's nuclear threat.
You reasonably noted that any supply or sale of weapons must comply with international legal standards, and therefore let’s see whether the sale of shells, missiles, drones and other weapons to Russia by Iran and North Korea complies. First, let's look at what applies to the supply of weapons.
According to Article 2 of the International Code of Conduct on Arms Transfers of 2000 (https://www.un.org/ru/documents/decl_conv/conventions/code_arms.shtml), arms transfers include “any transaction resulting in a change in legal title and/or control in relation to any weapons..., and to any physical movement of any weapons... from one territory to another Such supplies include supplies made in exchange for direct payment, credit, foreign assistance, subsidies. and goods obtained as a result of mutual settlements and barter agreements."
That is, regardless of whether weapons are purchased or supplied to another state as assistance, this is equally regarded as the supply of weapons from one country to another.

Now comes the interesting part: According to Title II, which governs the principles of arms transfers, “arms transfers may only be made if the proposed recipient State or the recipient party in the final destination country complies with all of the following principles, namely:

- if it can be reasonably demonstrated that the proposed supply will not be used by the recipient State or the recipient party in the country of final destination to promote serious violations of human rights, such as genocide and other crimes against humanity, such as “ethnic cleansing” (Article 3 ),

- if the proposed recipient State or recipient party in the country of final destination: does not commit serious violations of the laws and customs of war as set out in the 1949 Geneva Conventions... (Article 4),

- if the proposed recipient State or recipient party in the final destination country complies with international agreements relating to arms embargoes and other military sanctions imposed by the United Nations Security Council... (Article 6),

- if the proposed recipient State or the recipient party in the final destination country is not involved in any armed conflict in the region, unless the United Nations recognizes that it is acting in self-defense in accordance with Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations (Article 8 ).

All these principles are violated by the Russian Federation as a recipient state of weapons, as well as Iran and North Korea as those supplying them to the Russian Federation.


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May 31, 2024, 07:51:32 PM
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I think UN organs have lessened the risk of chances of food and energy shortage this year. Both food and energy generation has increased at a higher rate than demand.
Last years European energy scarcity was scary but they struggled through the winter, this year they are better prepared. They might be paying more for the energy making de-industrializing them but it's the path take by themselves as choice. There are voices of change in Europe and with elections in many European nations, the new governments might work for a better future for Europe. There are also problems in some quickly increasing economy like India, whose 2/3rd energy comes from coal and struggles to generate much as rain makes the coal wet, these are seasonal problems and they are better prepared than last year. Renewables had been rising at unprecedented rate. Some forms not as dependable yet they largely reduces the use of fossil fuel for energy generation.


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June 01, 2024, 05:40:40 AM
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the sale of shells, missiles, drones and other weapons to Russia
Only Iranian drones were sold to Russia and that is from contracts dating to many years ago (before the invasion of Ukraine).

- if it can be reasonably demonstrated that the proposed supply will not be used by the recipient State or the recipient party in the country of final destination to promote serious violations of human rights, such as genocide and other crimes against humanity, such as “ethnic cleansing” (Article 3 ),
Thanks for posting this, specially this part.

NATO is supplying weapons to a terrorist organization known as Israel that is found guilty of apartheid and genocide (ethnic cleansing of Semites including Palestinians) by United Nations, ICJ and ICC (issuing arrest warrants for the heads of this terrorist organization).
NATO (and specifically United States) still openly continues supplying these terrorists with a wide range of arms to continue committing genocide in Palestine! We are talking about between 100k to 200k casualties in about 7 months 70% of which are women and children.

NATO is Ukraine's ally and Ukraine wants to join NATO ... Wink

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June 20, 2024, 04:41:37 AM
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NATO is Ukraine's ally and Ukraine wants to join NATO ... Wink

After the collapse of the USSR and Ukraine gaining independence in 1991, Ukraine first declared itself non-aligned and, under pressure from world states, even got rid of the world's third largest nuclear weapons potential, which was left to it as an inheritance from the USSR. What did this lead to? One of the guarantors of its security, which signed the Budapest Memorandum, namely Russia, itself attacked Ukraine back in 2014 and is still trying to seize its territory by military means.

What should Ukraine do in this case? Seek protection in military blocs in which Russia would not be in order to protect one’s independence and territorial integrity from it. And the strongest and most effective military alliance is NATO. Therefore, Russia itself pushed Ukraine towards NATO membership.

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June 20, 2024, 09:08:27 AM
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the sale of shells, missiles, drones and other weapons to Russia
Only Iranian drones were sold to Russia and that is from contracts dating to many years ago (before the invasion of Ukraine).

Those drones are not very effective and are of poor quality, aren't they?

Well I guess that can happen to any country under decades of sanctions when they try to make any weapon - I heard North Korea's artillery shells are similarly worse than comparable shells as well.

I guess Russia is buying any weapons it can to try to conquer Ukraine, but it's not getting them anywhere.

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Those drones are not very effective and are of poor quality, aren't they?
If these drones were of poor quality they would have never bothered making so much propaganda about them and complain about their devastation every day for the past 2 years Grin

Well I guess that can happen to any country under decades of sanctions when they try to make any weapon
Or as they say necessity is the mother of invention. So when other countries were busy buying super expensive weapons from a handful of arms dealers that are already obsolete (eg. like $10 million Abrams tanks that is destroyed with a Shahed107 worth barely a grand, or a $6 million Merkava 6 easily destroyed with a $100 Yasin105) Iran has been ushering in a new age of Modern Warfare with advanced weaponry and an army of robots in the sky, in the sea, under the sea and on the ground, all at super cheap prices.
And "Unmanned Vehicles" and loitering munitions are just one of many advanced weaponries Iran manufactures. Eg. the only air-defense capable of detecting most stealth aircrafts US military has and has taken some of them down successfully as well...

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June 23, 2024, 01:24:09 PM
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the sale of shells, missiles, drones and other weapons to Russia
Only Iranian drones were sold to Russia and that is from contracts dating to many years ago (before the invasion of Ukraine).

Putin’s Russia first tried to hide the fact that Iranian Shahed-class drones were being used to attack Ukraine by simply repainting them and giving them a new name, “Geranium-2.” Then Russia admitted that they had purchased some Iranian drones, but even before the full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. When the number of Iranian drones used in Ukraine reached enormous proportions, since they were launched across Ukraine almost in flocks every day, they no longer make excuses there for a long time, since any lie becomes obvious over time. To date, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have shot down 11,355 drones in the skies of Ukraine, and most of them are Iranian suicide bombers.

However, on June 20, a kamikaze drone, which the Russian Federation had not previously used in the war, was intercepted in the Ochakov area over Ukraine. At first there was an opinion
that some new rocket had arrived. But after an intermediate examination, based on the fragments that were found and other data, Ukraine came to the conclusion that it was not a missile, but most likely an Iranian Arash-1 or Arash-2 drone. Preliminarily, we are talking about the Iranian Arash heavy-class UAV. This UAV, according to open data, has a flight range of 1.6-2 thousand km and can fly at a speed of 300-500 km/h. with a warhead mass of 260 kg. This drone is much more dangerous than the familiar Shahed.
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https://www.dialog.ua/war/297144_1719039175/amp

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To date, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have shot down 11,355 drones in the skies of Ukraine, and most of them are Iranian suicide bombers.
Yeah, in each encounter they have been masterfully shooting down 50 drones out of the incoming 7 so I'm not surprised the number they're reporting is already above 11k Grin

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June 25, 2024, 04:29:28 AM
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To date, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have shot down 11,355 drones in the skies of Ukraine, and most of them are Iranian suicide bombers.
Yeah, in each encounter they have been masterfully shooting down 50 drones out of the incoming 7 so I'm not surprised the number they're reporting is already above 11k Grin
Didn’t you know that Russia almost every day attacks the territory of Ukraine with dozens of drones, directing them, in particular, to energy and other critical infrastructure facilities? And the 853rd day of the Russian war against Ukraine is already underway.

But the Ukrainian Armed Forces are being destroyed by Russian and Iranian drones not only in Ukraine.
Thus, on June 21, the military training ground of the 726th Air Defense Training Center (military unit 33859, Yeisk) in the Krasnodar Territory was hit by forces and means of the Naval Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in cooperation with the Security Service of Ukraine. This institution is engaged in training and preparing military personnel to use various types of UAVs.
As a result of the strike, the following were destroyed:
Shahed-136/"Geranium-2" - 20 units;
attack UAV "Lancet" - 50 units;
reconnaissance UAVs ZALA - 40 units;
SuperCam reconnaissance UAVs - 10 units.
There are also deaths among the instructors and technical personnel.
https://zn.ua/war/udar-po-baze-podhotovki-pilotov-shakhedov-v-vms-soobshchili-skolko-bylo-unichtozheno-bespilotnikov.html

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