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October 12, 2023, 07:09:07 PM
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Cross addiction is as worst as the main addiction you are trying to quit and it is a terrible idea. But what is cross addiction?
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What Are Cross Addictions?
Cross addiction, also known as addiction transfer or addiction interaction disorder, occurs in various ways. First, an individual may simultaneously engage in substance abuse and maladapative behavioral patterns (medically referred to as behavioral or process addictions). Second, a person may replace one addiction with another (i.e., substituting opioids with cannabis). Third, an addictive behavior may precede a chemical addiction or vice versa.
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/cross-addiction/

So a friend told me that a mutual friend tried to replace his gambling addiction with another another one because he has tried all everything else. The new addiction is PS4. He pays for extra on the game and he is getting more and more into it. According to my friend, this mutual friend feels that paying $20 per month its subscription is better than $100- $500 on slots where he ends up losing.

Well I told him that this is basically cross addiction and what that mutual friend is trying to do is like running away from the truth. Not wanting to face the core issue. So he is justify spending $20 and not on slots when both are unhealthy addictions that can have far reaching consequences. He just has to sit and face his addiction head on without looking for a replacement addiction which is just as bad.

Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?
Cross addiction is something that new that i do encounter but in overall it is really just that a side thing that you do need to do for you to get away from that gambling addiction on which basing up on the example given then i would say that it isnt really that bad on ending up on having that kind of cross addiction on which it might really be that not healthy but i would say that much better considering that he would really be just simply be spending up $20 for the entire month and this is something more better and good than on spending tons on a single month. Its not really that bad on giving advises but respect on what your friend is doing. They do for sure been wary on the actions that they are making, if they are ignoring and not listening to your advises then just let them be since its their money that had been used. As long they are already showing off some progress about quitting gambling and they are really that going on the right track then its a good decision that
they had been made. It might be looking that not a good option but honestly it is really that a good choice.

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October 12, 2023, 07:14:57 PM
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Either cross addiction or a gambling addict, I don't see any difference between the both, because I know quite well that when you are addicted with gambling, you are addicted, Either being cross addiction or not you are addicted with gambling, since both is pointing at being over interested in gambling, so basically  theirs so certain things we have to know in gambling addiction, because when you are addicted in gambling its base on you have more less job and chance, but when you being occupied you can't engage in gambling betting everyday, so when you are frustrated in financial aspects it can make you to be gambling addictive also.

Cross addictions is simply diverting the attention of the gambling addict to somewhere else. I think this is very effective actually to make sure the patient is not going to hurt himself.  If he is taken over by the new addiction, he will forget gambling. The awareness of a person can always be taken over by distraction after distraction and PS4 or Wii can be more satisfying than the patient playing slot. I say cross-addiction isn't so bad for a solution.


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October 12, 2023, 07:17:27 PM
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Well I told him that this is basically cross addiction and what that mutual friend is trying to do is like running away from the truth. Not wanting to face the core issue. So he is justify spending $20 and not on slots when both are unhealthy addictions that can have far reaching consequences. He just has to sit and face his addiction head on without looking for a replacement addiction which is just as bad.

You're right, he's trying to occupy his mind with an activity. It's normal behavior for people with trauma or problems. Kids often run away from school and watch TV or play computer games all day like zombies because that makes them forget about passing time. Men left by their wives start drinking because when they're drunk they don't think and don't feel pain.
If he was losing money gambling it's better that he plays games, but that makes him waste a lot of time. He's going to miss that time one day and hope he did something constructive, like learn some trade, read books, get a job. in 10 years nobody is going to care that he was level 200 in some MMO game.

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October 12, 2023, 07:20:26 PM
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The guy is spending less money in a monthly basis, what is a positive aspect, however we can't neglect the fact PS4 games must be more time-consuming, therefore his life must be really unproductive right now, probably more unproductive than when he was gambling, due to the time it's demanding from him.

Cross addiction is a new term for me, I have never heared of this before, but the theory makes sense and it's likely many people nowadays are adopting addiction after addiction in an attempt to leave the last one, but in an endless cycle of new frustrations.

Thinking about this matter right now, I can relate addicted people who left their addictions to adopt religious fanaticism as a cure, although it is also another kind of addiction really common in our present time.

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October 12, 2023, 07:24:03 PM
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Well, at least he can move on from gambling to video game.

It's not easy as is look like but better cross addiction rather than gambling. It's a small money comparing to gambling while you can get a debt and more money to be deposit into the site.

I still call these a win.
I agree with your thought process but I am also tempted to ask if there is anyone on this planet who is not addicted to something. Whether you are addicted to gambling or to PS4, the weight and mental stress that comes with fulfilling the immediate gratification of that addiction and the withdrawal symptoms that is attached to it when you try to quit is in itself very emotionally exhausting. We may say that the video game addiction is the lesser evil but addiction is bad and can anyone ever be free from it.

The person who is now addicted to PS4 may spend less compared to gambling but how about the number of hours he has to spending playing the game. I don't think he will be anymore productive. Of he has to spending many hours playing the game, what happens to his relationship with his significant other and others? Anyone who is addicted should seek help and not another "lesser" addiction as a replacement.
Addiction is not a normal thing regardless of where you are hooked up with whether consoles or gambling; it is a bad thing ‘coz you’d feel uncomfortability without performing such activity making you less productive witb the things you do on a daily basis. There’s no “lesser addiction”; it is just either you are addicted or not. Some are hooked up with a particular acitivity but as long as they can refrain from doing so, then they cannot be called as addicts of that certain behavior. Addiction is unconsciously doing or feeling sensation to a certain activity.Diversion should not exist in addiction. It should be counted as rehabilitation or relearning not to be dependent with what you are ‘addicted’ of.Much better if you would diver into something outside your addiction such as eliminating factors; money, tempt, drive and more.

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October 12, 2023, 07:51:40 PM
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Cross addiction is as worst as the main addiction you are trying to quit and it is a terrible idea. But what is cross addiction?
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What Are Cross Addictions?
Cross addiction, also known as addiction transfer or addiction interaction disorder, occurs in various ways. First, an individual may simultaneously engage in substance abuse and maladapative behavioral patterns (medically referred to as behavioral or process addictions). Second, a person may replace one addiction with another (i.e., substituting opioids with cannabis). Third, an addictive behavior may precede a chemical addiction or vice versa.
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/cross-addiction/

So a friend told me that a mutual friend tried to replace his gambling addiction with another another one because he has tried all everything else. The new addiction is PS4. He pays for extra on the game and he is getting more and more into it. According to my friend, this mutual friend feels that paying $20 per month its subscription is better than $100- $500 on slots where he ends up losing.

Well I told him that this is basically cross addiction and what that mutual friend is trying to do is like running away from the truth. Not wanting to face the core issue. So he is justify spending $20 and not on slots when both are unhealthy addictions that can have far reaching consequences. He just has to sit and face his addiction head on without looking for a replacement addiction which is just as bad.

Have you ever think that it is just a diversion?  A subscription does not mean addiction, IMO.  It is a good thing that the other friend is immersed in other things instead of gambling addiction.  I  agree that it is better to spend $20 than spending $100-$500 by losing them on gambling.

The friend is not running away from truth, he knows he is addicted and he finds that diverting his attention can help him stop the uncontrollable urge of gambling.  IMO, his current situation is better than him being addicted on gambling.

The guy is spending less money in a monthly basis, what is a positive aspect, however we can't neglect the fact PS4 games must be more time-consuming, therefore his life must be really unproductive right now, probably more unproductive than when he was gambling, due to the time it's demanding from him.


We don't know the all about of the person involved.  For me having saved $480 is a huge thing since it is equal to a month salary of a normal employee.  Whether he is unproductive because he is playing  of PS4 I believe he saved more money than being engaged in gambling.  Gambling also consume a lot of time especially with $500 budget and betting with minimal wager, it can consume more than 24 hours before it is exhausted.
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October 12, 2023, 07:58:15 PM
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If this cross addiction that you're talking about is destructive for the addict it could be bad.
An example of one destructive behavior turning into another could be your example of a drug being exchanged for another, softer drug, in hope of recovering from the first one. In reality the soft drug will not be enough to satisfy a hardened addict and he will eventually turn to something stronger again.

We could also witness a destructive behavior (addict losing money every week) turn into a harmless addiction like playing video games, but this cannot be his only activity every day. If the guy spends 10 hours a day playing it's as destructive as it gets.

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October 12, 2023, 07:59:43 PM
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I don't think it's bad as you described, albeit you need to be very much determined to the next addiction and it must not be something bad as if like joint smoking, drinking, etc. because that may definitely lead you to highly serious circumstances than you may even think of. It's better to talk about your habits with someone you trust a lot, and let them handle your situation their way.

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October 12, 2023, 09:23:11 PM
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The guy is spending less money in a monthly basis, what is a positive aspect, however we can't neglect the fact PS4 games must be more time-consuming, therefore his life must be really unproductive right now, probably more unproductive than when he was gambling, due to the time it's demanding from him.

Cross addiction is a new term for me, I have never heared of this before, but the theory makes sense and it's likely many people nowadays are adopting addiction after addiction in an attempt to leave the last one, but in an endless cycle of new frustrations.

Thinking about this matter right now, I can relate addicted people who left their addictions to adopt religious fanaticism as a cure, although it is also another kind of addiction really common in our present time.


If the gambler use the less money in the monthly basis in the gambling.So he won’t loss huge money in the gambling,if they don’t have any luck in the game.If you start to use the huge money in the gambling as compared to the beginning time in the gambling,So it mean you get addicted to the gambling.The productive way to get away from the gambling addiction will be very simple.The important one is better should not cross the monthly limit in the gambling at any point.So better to use of 10-20 percentage of your income in the gambling.It help you to get away from the gambling addiction because of the control deposit.

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October 12, 2023, 09:30:28 PM
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The guy is spending less money in a monthly basis, what is a positive aspect, however we can't neglect the fact PS4 games must be more time-consuming, therefore his life must be really unproductive right now, probably more unproductive than when he was gambling, due to the time it's demanding from him.

Cross addiction is a new term for me, I have never heared of this before, but the theory makes sense and it's likely many people nowadays are adopting addiction after addiction in an attempt to leave the last one, but in an endless cycle of new frustrations.

Thinking about this matter right now, I can relate addicted people who left their addictions to adopt religious fanaticism as a cure, although it is also another kind of addiction really common in our present time.


If the gambler use the less money in the monthly basis in the gambling.So he won’t loss huge money in the gambling,if they don’t have any luck in the game.If you start to use the huge money in the gambling as compared to the beginning time in the gambling,So it mean you get addicted to the gambling.The productive way to get away from the gambling addiction will be very simple.The important one is better should not cross the monthly limit in the gambling at any point.So better to use of 10-20 percentage of your income in the gambling.It help you to get away from the gambling addiction because of the control deposit.
The case in the ops is already a. Severe case of addictions we're as it already have impact on the overall gaming habits of the ops and as a matter of fact he already spending a lot of money on subscription to the PS4 fhat he chose as an escape ruit to escaping addictions that he hard found himself for quite a long time now before he decides to fight the hold of the addiction,  I am also of the same opinion as yours where I feel that the approach chosen by the individual to have his addiction replaced with another addictive habit is quite worrisome at some point.


However, if he does apply wisdom and limit how he is involved around with gambling and what he chooses to spend his time on.
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October 12, 2023, 09:37:19 PM
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This is the first time that I am hearing this word cross addiction. The only way that an addict can help to improve himself from addiction is by looking for another way in which he can use to replace his gambling activities which was what your friend did.

He was able to notice that his gambling addiction is making him spend more and he decided to look for an alternative that can replace gambling and which he will also spend less. I like that because it will be a gradual process to stop gambling and not just immediately.

I am my friends love playing PS4 and it is a very good game in which one can use to pass time and have fun as long as it is not excess. Though, sometimes we stake money on our games just to make you be more serious when you know that something is as stake.

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October 12, 2023, 09:37:47 PM
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I don't think it's bad as you described, albeit you need to be very much determined to the next addiction and it must not be something bad as if like joint smoking, drinking, etc. because that may definitely lead you to highly serious circumstances than you may even think of. It's better to talk about your habits with someone you trust a lot, and let them handle your situation their way.
Addiction is worst regardless of its type, we all know there’s always a bad consequences when we become addict. If you are doing this and you are still gambling with your multiple addiction, you can be more worst and you might ended up in a bad situation. As much as possible don’t let your addiction takes over your own body, if you are already uncontrollable better to seek professional help already, gambling plus your other addiction are worst.

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October 12, 2023, 09:38:18 PM
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The guy is spending less money in a monthly basis, what is a positive aspect, however we can't neglect the fact PS4 games must be more time-consuming, therefore his life must be really unproductive right now, probably more unproductive than when he was gambling, due to the time it's demanding from him.

Cross addiction is a new term for me, I have never heared of this before, but the theory makes sense and it's likely many people nowadays are adopting addiction after addiction in an attempt to leave the last one, but in an endless cycle of new frustrations.

Thinking about this matter right now, I can relate addicted people who left their addictions to adopt religious fanaticism as a cure, although it is also another kind of addiction really common in our present time.


If the gambler use the less money in the monthly basis in the gambling.So he won’t loss huge money in the gambling,if they don’t have any luck in the game.If you start to use the huge money in the gambling as compared to the beginning time in the gambling,So it mean you get addicted to the gambling.The productive way to get away from the gambling addiction will be very simple.The important one is better should not cross the monthly limit in the gambling at any point.So better to use of 10-20 percentage of your income in the gambling.It help you to get away from the gambling addiction because of the control deposit.
The case in the ops is already a. Severe case of addictions we're as it already have impact on the overall gaming habits of the ops and as a matter of fact he already spending a lot of money on subscription to the PS4 fhat he chose as an escape ruit to escaping addictions that he hard found himself for quite a long time now before he decides to fight the hold of the addiction,  I am also of the same opinion as yours where I feel that the approach chosen by the individual to have his addiction replaced with another addictive habit is quite worrisome at some point.


However, if he does apply wisdom and limit how he is involved around with gambling and what he chooses to spend his time on.
Not really that much because if we do try to look at on the amount on which that monthly subscription on which it is really just that only 20 bucks comparing into those almost thousand bucks per month on gambling
then you could really say that there's so much difference in terms of the amount that had been spent and this is something that much better in terms of those numbers but in overall on which in speaking about addiction then i do see that ps4/ps5 addiction isnt really just that too dangerous at all. Although you would really be that consuming too much time which is more than that more worth of spending out those for something that would really be that productive rather than on making yourself that dealing with things which doesnt give out those money making opportunity.

Cross addiction or whatever called it is will really be just like that an alternative way for you to distract out your current addiction.No matter it would be but it would be always wise
that you should really be dealing with something that is completely free and something healthy like dealing up or engaging with some sports as some sort of distraction
on which you arent really that spending on something but at the same time you do make yourself that fit or healthy which its a better choice for me.

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October 12, 2023, 09:41:16 PM
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This is the first time that I am hearing this word cross addiction. The only way that an addict can help to improve himself from addiction is by looking for another way in which he can use to replace his gambling activities which was what your friend did.

He was able to notice that his gambling addiction is making him spend more and he decided to look for an alternative that can replace gambling and which he will also spend less. I like that because it will be a gradual process to stop gambling and not just immediately.

I am my friends love playing PS4 and it is a very good game in which one can use to pass time and have fun as long as it is not excess. Though, sometimes we stake money on our games just to make you be more serious when you know that something is as stake.

i believe that's better way of addressing your gambling addiction, finding alternative activities which is less detrimental to your funds. in the given example, his friend is just paying 20 bucks a month, which of course is way way less as compared to when he was in gambling. i guess, if it works for you, why not? every person has their own approach in addressing their addiction. cross addiction is not bad in my opinion if the next one is much better than the previous when it comes to your lifestyle, financial or mental health.

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October 12, 2023, 09:41:55 PM
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Addiction is not good because addiction means we use it excessively and cannot control ourselves or do anything else. Perhaps your friend is right that spending $20 can replace his $100-$500 monthly losses because that money can be used for other things.

But it would be even better if your friend could do other things and not just play PS4 games to use his life for useful things. If you can encourage him to discover something else and he likes it, you have helped him to discover something that can open his mind and that life is not just about playing games.

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October 12, 2023, 09:43:16 PM
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Honestly guys I appreciate the concern that you and your friends have over this addicted friend, but I don't think this is cross-addiction. As a gamer, sometimes when we're stressed from a frustrating gambling session I find myself playing videogames to let off some steam so don't go jumping into conclusions just yet. Spending money on games is just normal, a lot of great titles on most consoles are locked behind a paywall and he's actually getting a great deal here if I do say so myself. He's probably paying for a game pass that gives him a rotation of games monthly for under 20 bucks, when normally he's going to have to spend more than 400 bucks to get as much games as he's playing right now.

Let him be, I know it's a little scary not looking out for a friend especially after something like that happened but I'm assuring you that he's at a good place right now and he's probably on his way to recovery too.

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October 12, 2023, 09:43:43 PM
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Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?
Hearing of the name for the first time, but I have always met people who practiced it, replacing one habit with another. Cross addiction can be good if the habit the person is using to replace the addiction is something good. For example replacing habit of smoking with eating apples or working out, or the habit of gambling with reading sports journals or news. Cross addiction can be bad when a habit that has the potential to be bad is what is being used as the cross or replacement.

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October 12, 2023, 09:47:06 PM
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So a friend told me that a mutual friend tried to replace his gambling addiction with another another one because he has tried all everything else. The new addiction is PS4. He pays for extra on the game and he is getting more and more into it. According to my friend, this mutual friend feels that paying $20 per month its subscription is better than $100- $500 on slots where he ends up losing.

Well I told him that this is basically cross addiction and what that mutual friend is trying to do is like running away from the truth. Not wanting to face the core issue. So he is justify spending $20 and not on slots when both are unhealthy addictions that can have far reaching consequences. He just has to sit and face his addiction head on without looking for a replacement addiction which is just as bad.

Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?

I have never heard of this word but I know that people can stop a habit by building a new one. If your friend is concerned about the money he spends on gambling or he is exceeding his budget, cross-addiction might be a good option. It would be better to switch to an addiction that he would spend within his budget than to gamble more than he can afford to lose. But if his concern is about the time he spends gambling, then cross-addiction will not be a good option because he just transferred his problem to another activity. I have tried to channel my addiction (not related to gambling) to another activity but I have not been able to succeed.

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October 12, 2023, 09:51:33 PM
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If this cross addiction that you're talking about is destructive for the addict it could be bad.
An example of one destructive behavior turning into another could be your example of a drug being exchanged for another, softer drug, in hope of recovering from the first one. In reality the soft drug will not be enough to satisfy a hardened addict and he will eventually turn to something stronger again.

We could also witness a destructive behavior (addict losing money every week) turn into a harmless addiction like playing video games, but this cannot be his only activity every day. If the guy spends 10 hours a day playing it's as destructive as it gets.
Addiction no matter the type is something that shouldn't be found among anyone that wants a better life for himself in the future. Addiction is simply doing something beyond normal or excessively and that why it's adviced that no body should allow addiction of any kind get the better of of him. The consequences of addiction no matter the type are things that no can proudly accept and that's why we're advised to flee from addiction to save our lide.

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October 12, 2023, 09:58:07 PM
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Didn’t know about this term until I read this one, well it looks like you have your two addiction that can make your life worst. I don’t think why people still pursue addiction when it fact this is not healthy at all. Gambling addiction can ruin your whole life and what more if you are also addict in illegal drugs, alcohol or any other substance that is not acceptable. I can’t imagine my life into this situation, i’d hope there’s still a chance for them to recover and live a normal life again.
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