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October 15, 2023, 08:42:50 PM
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All investments have risk. Both the real estate business, gold and cryptocurrencies have a full-time risk. I put cryptocurrency in front because it involves both Bitcoin and all the rest of the digital currencies, but I will say that when we talk about Bitcoin, it is much different from other cryptocurrencies based on the kind of influence it has.
Bitcoin is not a thing for a short time, you just have to be patient, hold and keep on accumulating for a long time, but when considering gold or a real estate business (investments) it all depends on how much your capital, but in Bitcoin you can buy the little you can afford, then hold.

 
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October 15, 2023, 08:44:42 PM
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There does not always have to be a "devastating" argument and it is worth using that adjective in your reference, but bitcoin does not need a literal example to buy it, just as there is bitcoin for those who want to protect the value of their assets, the competition is tough in the equivalence of other types of hard money for such purposes. But regardless of the case you mention, the real estate sector is one of the great "consumers" of "guard" for whatever reason, whether it is short-term investment or for "savings" purposes or the most common case: inflation vs. acquired asset.

So the point is, you have to access bitcoin and in reality the financial asset you want based on your convictions and not because of the fact that a building is being demolished, which may be violating regulations or simply arrived the time to be demolished.

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October 15, 2023, 09:49:43 PM
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All investments have risk. Both the real estate business, gold and cryptocurrencies have a full-time risk. I put cryptocurrency in front because it involves both Bitcoin and all the rest of the digital currencies, but I will say that when we talk about Bitcoin, it is much different from other cryptocurrencies based on the kind of influence it has.
Bitcoin is not a thing for a short time, you just have to be patient, hold and keep on accumulating for a long time, but when considering gold or a real estate business (investments) it all depends on how much your capital, but in Bitcoin you can buy the little you can afford, then hold.

every type of investment has their own risk, so you need to gauge what kind of risk you want to handle. there are also pros and cons for each type, assess and see where you stand. it also depends on your financial situation.because some can hold long term whereas, others are only for short-term profits. and as such, you are the only one who can fully understand your capability on this matter. you can read financial advise or opinions, however, at the end of the day, you are the one who will be calling the shots involving your funds.

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October 16, 2023, 10:57:32 AM
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This has become a popular trend in my country; politicians target the businesses and properties of opposition. Maybe they all read 48 Laws of Power.
I guess it's not only in your country; most African and Asian countries have the same problem. The last party change in my country was over a decade ago, and if I remember correctly, a lot of on-going projects stopped, and a lot of people lost their business, their freedom, and many more. I know things will change once the party changes again.

I am viewing it from the aspect of investment, which is in line with the topic of discussion, and not base on needs.
I am not saying that Bitcoin is safe. Bitcoin is safe, but it's virtual and volatile enough. You have to keep it for the long term if you want a good return. You cannot sell it whenever you want if you need urgent money. If you sell, maybe you have to sell at a lose. So, invest in something that is stable, and you can sell anytime. Invest in Bitcoin too. But do not rely on Bitcoin only.

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October 16, 2023, 04:19:17 PM
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Diversifying your investment portfolio is a wise approach. Both Bitcoin and real estate have their unique advantages. Bitcoin can be a more accessible entry point for investors with limited capital, as you mentioned. However, it comes with higher volatility and risk. Real estate offers stability and the potential for appreciation over time, but it typically requires a larger initial investment and ongoing maintenance costs. It's also less liquid than Bitcoin, as selling real estate can take time.

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October 16, 2023, 04:47:32 PM
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I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments.  This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.
Despite this example, real estate is still a very decent investment alternative to store your money value in a stable way, generate passive income through renting and to make your patrimony more valuable within time. Besides being pretty safe. Even in case the government seizes your property for some reason justifying common good, it's expect they pay you a fair price for that, but you have to be legal with the scripture of your property. They can't simply steal or destroy what is your without any good reason to back their decision.

To replace real estate investment by Bitcoin isn't a good idea, as a smart investor should take advantage of both methods.

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October 16, 2023, 09:15:37 PM
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Let's be realistic on this matter. I like Bitcoin due to its financial freedom and volatility. Bitcoin gives us freedom of money; we can spend it wherever we want. No one will ask questions about where we are spending our funds. On the other hand the volatile gives us opportunity to take advantage from that and make money. That is why we are investing in Bitcoin in order to profit. So it's true that major investors consider Bitcoin an investment opportunity beyond the original goal of Bitcoin creation.

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October 17, 2023, 12:51:02 AM
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I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments.  This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.
Despite this example, real estate is still a very decent investment alternative to store your money value in a stable way, generate passive income through renting and to make your patrimony more valuable within time. Besides being pretty safe. Even in case the government seizes your property for some reason justifying common good, it's expect they pay you a fair price for that, but you have to be legal with the scripture of your property. They can't simply steal or destroy what is your without any good reason to back their decision.

To replace real estate investment by Bitcoin isn't a good idea, as a smart investor should take advantage of both methods.

There will still be unexpected risks but that will not make real estate lose its appeal. Although we want to promote bitcoin as the best and most superior asset, we cannot hide the fact that real estate is still the safest and best investment channel today. People will still invest in it and view it as the most valuable asset they have. Through what the OP said, it shows us that nothing is absolutely safe, including bitcoin, and diversification is what we need to do.
Honestly, it would be foolish for someone to have a large amount of money and invest it all in bitcoin, an asset that is considered the riskiest compared to gold and real estate.

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October 17, 2023, 06:49:09 AM
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There are different forms of real estate or properties, just like there are different kinds of cryptocurrencies. You can't compare a flat or an apartment with Bitcoin, but those who compare real estate with Bitcoin or say it's a safer investment are basically referring to lands. The government cannot capture your land if you have it in your name with all the valid legal documentation available because you can always file a complaint if something like that happens.

The demolishing of buildings is bad for investors and also for those who might be living in those apartments, but apartments have never been a very good investment unless it is situated in a location where you know there are absolutely no chances of the government or any authority intervening.

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October 17, 2023, 11:34:47 AM
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The government cannot capture your land if you have it in your name with all the valid legal documentation available because you can always file a complaint if something like that happens.



The government can still reclaim your land even if you have all the legal documents, if they really want to reclaim the land for their own purposes, you won't be able to do anything to them. But that happens very rarely and those are just rare cases. In general, any investment will have risks, including real estate or gold, and bitcoin is no exception. Maybe our bitcoins won't be unjustly robbed or confiscated by the government but we also face many different dangers. Bitcoin is also not completely safer than real estate or gold.

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October 18, 2023, 03:34:34 AM
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Bitcoin as an investment means is good, but I will prefer to diversify and invest also in real estate. If you have the money to invest in real estate, it would be good. But as you invest in bitcoin with $500, you can not invest in real estate with that low amount of money which is one of the reason bitcoin can be better in that way because with little amount of money you can invest in bitcoin, unlike real estate. The advantage of real estate is that the property you have do not devalue but continue to appreciate.

Many people have tested Bitcoin investment to discovered is very good for humanity to achieve so many things that will make he or she grow financially and materially in the society. Operating many investments include Bitcoin is a good things that will help you to grow higher, because whenever there is a bearish season in the market, you will hold your Bitcoin until the massive bullish season occur before you can sell to make income. And you can make a huge amount of money from your real estate investment, and invest the money on Bitcoin which is the common strategy many investors are using these days to improve their investments in a way they will remain wealthy for their children to inherit the wealth and investments from them.

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October 18, 2023, 04:48:23 AM
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Let's be realistic on this matter. I like Bitcoin due to its financial freedom and volatility. Bitcoin gives us freedom of money; we can spend it wherever we want. No one will ask questions about where we are spending our funds. On the other hand the volatile gives us opportunity to take advantage from that and make money. That is why we are investing in Bitcoin in order to profit. So it's true that major investors consider Bitcoin an investment opportunity beyond the original goal of Bitcoin creation.

It is true that bitcoin brings us many different benefits as you said such as financial freedom, we can use it anywhere with just a smartphone with an internet connection, storage is quite easy, and it can be carried anywhere...But volatility is the factor we care about the most because I believe there is no one who doesn't like to make a lot of money, and bitcoin meets that better than real estate or gold. But it cannot be denied that real estate is a very good asset and investment. If someone does not want to take risks and prefers safety, they should choose real estate because they can create passive income by renting, and the value of real estate will increase over time.

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October 18, 2023, 08:54:44 AM
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Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity. Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.

I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments.  This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.


Definitely a sad outcome for those that bought those properties, but this just proves that we need to be incredibly careful with every purchase that we make, especially the big ones, as you do not want your investment to evaporate or be destroyed like it is the case here, however as good as bitcoin can be as an investment and as a store of value, it would be irresponsible to not mention that you can lose your bitcoin just as easily if you are not careful, so it is important to not idealize bitcoin either or you may find yourself in the same situation as those people.
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October 18, 2023, 08:59:38 AM
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Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity. Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.

I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments.  This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.


What gives you the clarity that those properties are actually build where they are supposed to be build on? If you are ready to pay me bigger amount of money for lands that illegal to build anything on I could consider taking that money from you, and also people loves illegal things very much, they believe with money anything is possible but they don't know that it's completely foolishness to spend money on something that's not plain and pure.

Do not be too fast to talk trash about your government, if roads are meant to be build on that land then it's illegal, we are currently facing this problem in my street, some crazy people bought land and built houses on it and those spaces are meant for drainage and now we are facing issues when there is rain, there is no space for dirt water to flow by, I am just waiting for the government to come to the rescue and start demolishing those houses.

People are just so greedy, those lands are sold to them for cheap price and they don't consider that they are taking a big risk building the houses where as it's left for main road and water drainage, so I have nothing much to say about the link you drop, I know how people behaves when it comes to properties and building houses.

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October 18, 2023, 09:08:39 AM
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Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity.
No, Bitcoin was created primarily as a means of payment. According to Satoshi Nakamoto's statement when he first introduced Bitcoin to the community he said "I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party." not I have been working on a new electronic investment.
But it's the potential, borderless transactions, empowerment to every individual no matter their background, and the benefit of having 1 whole BTC among the 21 million coins that turn BTC into an investment.

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October 18, 2023, 11:22:45 AM
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Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity. Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.
Without a doubt, Bitcoin has shown to be a dependable investment, and its ability to help the less privileged is just one of the reasons it has outperformed other options. As bitcoin and real estate are two completely distinct types of investments, each has pros and cons, so I don't think it's appropriate to compare the two.

I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments.  This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.
Any form of investment has it’s own risk associated to it so Real estate is not different thats why there is a saying that investments are not 100% guaranteed of success, we should always expect unforeseen circumstances in any investment we find ourselves.

There is always a reason why buildings are demolished most likely, the government wants to use the land for something else. In addition, property owners receive compensation even if they will lose money on their investment and are warned before any action is taken. Land and buildings cannot be stolen, therefore if you don't buy property in regions that the government is likely to use, there won't be any issues and you won't have to worry about property theft. Investing in real estate is a wise substitute for bitcoin.

Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.
Everyone has a different opinion about what makes an investment the best, but in my opinion, bitcoin is the best because it offers opportunities to the less rprivileged and can be started with as little as $10 and grown over time. This is in contrast to real estate, which requires a substantial amount of capital.

In term of comfort and peace i think real estate is better to bitcoin but the freedom bitcoin offers makes it untouchable.

 
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October 18, 2023, 11:45:18 AM
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If we talk about digital assets and digital investment tools then of course Bitcoin is the best. In fact I consider investing in Bitcoin much better than investing in shares. But if you compare it with investing in Real Estate, I still think Real Estate is the best. But unfortunately not many are able to invest in Real Estate because it requires very large capital. And to get profits it takes a long time. not just 2 to 5 years but requires 10 to 20 years if you want to get maximum profits. But the risk is very low. But investing in Bitcoin everyone can do it. Small or large capital is not a problem. As long as we know the risks we are taking then investing in bitcoin is much easier. And the potential for benefits doesn't have to wait decades. In fact, we can accumulate in every bearish market and start selling in every bullish market. Like pre-halving and post-halving. But yes, this has a much higher risk than real estate. But I think people today prefer digital assets over real estate. But I personally prefer to spread my investments across many things.











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October 18, 2023, 11:51:04 AM
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This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.
I am sorry to say but this is not a confirmation of anything. Those people whose property were demolished should have seen it coming. I mean did they do their due diligence before purchasing a property that is sitting on the water way and is the cause of perennial flooding. We shouldn't make any poor investment decision about Bitcoin. There are also other great investments out there.

Every investment comes with risks and if your real estate investment goes against the town plan set by the government, you'll lose it. The more reason why doing your own research is of paramount importance.

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October 18, 2023, 11:52:01 AM
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If we talk about digital assets and digital investment tools then of course Bitcoin is the best. In fact I consider investing in Bitcoin much better than investing in shares. But if you compare it with investing in Real Estate, I still think Real Estate is the best. But unfortunately not many are able to invest in Real Estate because it requires very large capital. And to get profits it takes a long time. not just 2 to 5 years but requires 10 to 20 years if you want to get maximum profits. But the risk is very low. But investing in Bitcoin everyone can do it. Small or large capital is not a problem. As long as we know the risks we are taking then investing in bitcoin is much easier. And the potential for benefits doesn't have to wait decades. In fact, we can accumulate in every bearish market and start selling in every bullish market. Like pre-halving and post-halving. But yes, this has a much higher risk than real estate. But I think people today prefer digital assets over real estate. But I personally prefer to spread my investments across many things.

One advantage of real estate that we also need to mention is that it can even bring us passive income, something not all assets can do. If you own real estate, you can rent it out short or long term and you will receive a monthly income stream without losing full ownership of your land. To be fair, bitcoin and real estate are both assets worth investing in and holding for anyone. But saying that bitcoin is better than real estate in every way is a bias against bitcoin.

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One advantage of real estate that we also need to mention is that it can even bring us passive income, something not all assets can do. If you own real estate, you can rent it out short or long term and you will receive a monthly income stream without losing full ownership of your land. To be fair, bitcoin and real estate are both assets worth investing in and holding for anyone. But saying that bitcoin is better than real estate in every way is a bias against bitcoin.

I do agree that Bitcoin as investment is not better than Real Estate, at least for now, because Bitcoin is extremely volatile and harder to predict compared to Real-Estate investment. But all that being said, Real Estate also has it downside, there are more risk on real estate, more of the time related to the tennant, if the tenant is bad the maintenance fee for the real estate could reduce the profit, not to mention other force majeur risk like fire and natural disaster. While Bitcoin is free of all those kind of risks.


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