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October 18, 2023, 04:19:27 PM
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Bitcoin has always provided investors with the opportunity to increase their investment many folds. It is predicted that BTC price will dip below $20k in the coming months before a bull run. After BTC halving in 2024, the price will start to increase and might reach a new ATH in 2025. Let's say that the price will dip to $15k, and in the bull run, the price will at least go past the previous ATH, say $70k. For 1 BTC ($15k), you will get a $55k profit within 2 years (more than double). No other investment can give you this much return on investment in such a short period.
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October 18, 2023, 05:02:21 PM
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When you invest, you should be ready for everything. You might see double of your investments, or even triple profits. You can also face losses and anything can happen to be frank. What we can do is just estimate based on past growth and future projections. We have seen Bitcoins follow a 4 year cycle to reach ATH price, and 2024 is expected to be the 4th year. So yes if that happens then we can see 3x the investment. So let’s hope for the best and keep on accumulating the coins.

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October 18, 2023, 05:47:24 PM
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With halving less than a year from now, the majority of us are speculating a major increase in price and possibly the start of another bull market after 4 years. Some are expecting to surpass the previous ATH of almost $70,000 and possibly reach $100,000. Although this scenario sounds great and all, I'm not quite confident that it'll happen in the upcoming year or so. The current economic condition in the world isn't too promising and, in my opinion, will set back investments in general, including bonds and the stock market. I hope I'm proven wrong, though.

However, I tend to have a more pessimistic and down-to-earth approach to this matter. Bitcoin's current price is ranging from $27,000 to $28,000 as we speak, while we will also occasionally see it as low as $25,000. With that being said, in my opinion, sometime after the halving, the scenario of Bitcoin surpassing $50,000 doesn't sound too impossible to me. Thus, if we suppose that someone purchases Bitcoin now, approximately within a year, he or she may be capable of doubling their initial investment.

I know that these are all pure assumptions, but instead of speculating massive ATH and 3x or 4x returns, which are way too common in the forum, why not expect something that is more probable to happen in the near future? And to be honest, doubling your investment is a great yield that cannot easily be found in other forms of investment.
Just let people on thinking on what are the things that they do have in mind on which we do have our own price targets and if they are hoping for 3x or more then so be it. You cant really just blame them considering on
how this crypto moves on random and surprising way basing up on what happened back in the past where hitting up huge multipliers but its true that lets really be that realistic considering  that we are already on high
price already on which reaching out 2x or 3x is already a struggle. We would really be needing more funds on pushing up the price even on $100k a piece. This is why i do agree with some points that you had elaborated on which setting up some realistic approach or goals which it wont really be thinking on hitting 500k or 1M per coin which it is really just that too impossible.

Better to make yourself that prepare and make out some realistic numbers rather than expecting something big which it is that non realistic at all. You would really be finding yourself
that getting disappointed on the time that the price wont really be moving on the way that you are anticipating. This is why it would really be always that recommended
that you should be sticking onto those probabilities which it is likely to happen rather than on being too optimistic but way too unrealistic. Well we do have our own
hopes and expectations but just like been said that dont hope too much.

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October 18, 2023, 08:34:21 PM
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So youre saying that people should really be just only thinking about 2x return or profit on their Bitcoin investment or holdings? Yes, it would be something that good to look at but we know that majority of us would really be looking for something better and we do always really love on reflecting into those past years on which Bitcoin did surprise most of us here on this space on which reaching out numbers on which we didnt really that even expect that it would really be able to reach out on that level.It did really just turn out to be that this market is totally random and cant be known and this is why we do really keep on making that speculative approach. Just let people to think on what they are thinking whatever whether it would really be positive or negative or something realistic or non realistic. Its their money that they had invested on which it is really just normal that peoples approach and speculations would really differ to each other.
Certainly not. If you read more carefully, you'll understand that $50,000 is a very realistic price to see in the upcoming months; thus, doubling your investment shouldn't require too much time, effort, or risk, judging that Bitcoin's price used to be $26,000 a few days ago. With that being said, it would somewhat be considered a relatively easy investment, but as I've already mentioned, these are all hypotheses.
There is always the possibility that something positive will happen, but also that something negative will happen that will affect the price of BTC. Yesterday, the price briefly flew towards $30k because some amateurs announced that the SEC approved a spot ETF from BlackRock, which of course was fake news. If fake news has such an effect, one only has to wonder what will happen if at some point such news appears that will be true.

Investing in BTC is always risky, not only because of the price, but also because of the way someone stores such sensitive data. However, as the old saying goes, "he who does not take risks, does not profit", it is up to each individual what he will do with his money.

I already mentioned to you that it would not be bad if you look for a better paid campaign, you are a solid poster and you are active on the forum, why not take advantage of that?
That's true; I can only imagine what's going to happen if it's approved. Some fake news was enough to send its price up to almost $30,000, which is astounding. Along with the halving and a possible upcoming bull market, it's quite probable to send Bitcoin up to $100,000 or even more. As for the signature campaign, I'm generally satisfied with where I'm at; however, it's quite reasonable to always aim for more. I acknowledge that there are a few relatively new ones that pay quite well, but I don't see any vacant spots at the moment, and even if there was a spot or two, I don't know if I'd apply with so much competition going on.
Those of us who have been around for a few cycles don’t think that a x4 return from here is out of the question. Almost the opposite as we’ve seen this happen every four years several times now. Sure a x2 return would be great and I wouldn’t spit at it, but at the same time, I think it’s more likely we see a x3 than a x2 this cycle.
Definitely, I experienced the bull market in 2017 and 2020, respectively, and I'm quite confident about Bitcoin's capabilities in the next bull market. 3x looks quite possible, let alone 2x. I'm not quite sure how I'll react in an upcoming bull market, but I'm aiming for at least $60,000, nothing less.

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October 18, 2023, 09:07:21 PM
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I think I understand the OP, it might actually not be a big deal for those who are in the world of trading and investment for so long to double their investment. It might be hyped more than it actually is but a very good consideration is the price at which halving meets Bitcoin. Imagine halving meeting Bitcoin at $50,000 and it later hit the ATH of $100,000, such can't freak many experienced traders and investors, especially those with a little capital.

I thought extensively about it early this year when I opened a trading account and I made x6 of my investment in less than 2 months without risking excessively. Bitcoin might not be able to do that in a year if halving meets it at about $30,000. So, it depends on people, their experience, satisfaction with their investment and their ability to actually use money to make more money in diverse ways.

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October 18, 2023, 09:59:11 PM
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With halving less than a year from now, the majority of us are speculating a major increase in price and possibly the start of another bull market after 4 years. Some are expecting to surpass the previous ATH of almost $70,000 and possibly reach $100,000. Although this scenario sounds great and all, I'm not quite confident that it'll happen in the upcoming year or so. The current economic condition in the world isn't too promising and, in my opinion, will set back investments in general, including bonds and the stock market. I hope I'm proven wrong, though.

However, I tend to have a more pessimistic and down-to-earth approach to this matter. Bitcoin's current price is ranging from $27,000 to $28,000 as we speak, while we will also occasionally see it as low as $25,000. With that being said, in my opinion, sometime after the halving, the scenario of Bitcoin surpassing $50,000 doesn't sound too impossible to me. Thus, if we suppose that someone purchases Bitcoin now, approximately within a year, he or she may be capable of doubling their initial investment.

I know that these are all pure assumptions, but instead of speculating massive ATH and 3x or 4x returns, which are way too common in the forum, why not expect something that is more probable to happen in the near future? And to be honest, doubling your investment is a great yield that cannot easily be found in other forms of investment.
Well, it's not bad actually if some highly optimistic people are expecting to make 3x or 4x returns from their investments. That is also their way of motivating theirselves to never stop from accumulating bitcoin while the price is still affordable. However, they just need to be more open-minded on what will be the future outcome of their investments as they don't hold the future price of bitcoin.

Regardless of how much you expect from your investment returns, that is of less importance. What is more crucial is that we never stop from taking advantage of bitcoin opportunities most especially that bitcoin halving is getting near. Do not be too obsessed with the future bitcoin price as no one gets an edge of that, but focus on your investment preparations while the market is still allowing us.

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October 19, 2023, 01:09:22 AM
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There aren't rules or patterns about cycles so we can't say we know it's going to happen so we're all tipping opinions. I've invested in a mini portfolio but I'm stacking sats so I'll be smiling on x3 return. What worries me is ppl who won't sell at comfy returns so they'll incur a loss when they've hodl more.

Those of us who have been around for a few cycles don’t think that a x4 return from here is out of the question. Almost the opposite as we’ve seen this happen every four years several times now. Sure a x2 return would be great and I wouldn’t spit at it, but at the same time, I think it’s more likely we see a x3 than a x2 this cycle.

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October 19, 2023, 05:22:22 AM
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Definitely, I experienced the bull market in 2017 and 2020, respectively, and I'm quite confident about Bitcoin's capabilities in the next bull market. 3x looks quite possible, let alone 2x. I'm not quite sure how I'll react in an upcoming bull market, but I'm aiming for at least $60,000, nothing less.

Very relevant if you expect at least $60,000, no less..I also looked at the market performance at that time, whereas bullish moves always take time to form and develop, bearish moves tend to be relatively short and sharp. In addition to technical analysis, knowing the Bitcoin space well will also help, whether the price goes up or down. Short sales can be very risky if the lender withdraws the asset before the price has a chance to fall.
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I would say doubling from here is as close to a guarantee as you can get in crypto. Double would be $54000 which we will definitely reach in the next two years. Bitcoin rewards people who have patience, it’s a virtue that not all of us have & that’s why the majority of people fail in crypto & sell when the price is down. Buying now is a great idea, it might not be easy to live through dips but if you can keep strong hands then you will be rewarded when the bull begins his run.
"as you can get in crypto"? Bu,t we are already here. Or you maybe you forgot to include the word " any " there because the subject is mostly about BTC. The double price for BTC is very much achievable even by this year when the situation gets better. More if next year since there is a BTC halving and it can help the price to rise quickly. If about two years, BTC value might be at $200k already or more. Maybe not all has a solid patience to wait that long but as long as they can sell at profits and not a loss, that will still be acceptable. Dips are a part of investing so we should learn to live around them. They are not always a disadvantage anyways.
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I know that these are all pure assumptions, but instead of speculating massive ATH and 3x or 4x returns, which are way too common in the forum, why not expect something that is more probable to happen in the near future? And to be honest, doubling your investment is a great yield that cannot easily be found in other forms of investment.
In fact, the goal of people investing is to see the value of the money they invest double or so on, we just have to count the months until the Bitcoin halving actually occurs, but currently there are quite a lot of people who are preparing their money to invest in Bitcoin when the halving occurs.  i myself don't have high expectations for the price of bitcoin, which many predict will exceed the ATH during the halving, but i am very confident that the price of bitcoin will move high when the halving occurs. 

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October 19, 2023, 07:24:26 PM
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When you invest, you should be ready for everything. You might see double of your investments, or even triple profits. You can also face losses and anything can happen to be frank. What we can do is just estimate based on past growth and future projections. We have seen Bitcoins follow a 4 year cycle to reach ATH price, and 2024 is expected to be the 4th year. So yes if that happens then we can see 3x the investment. So let’s hope for the best and keep on accumulating the coins.

We should never forget the existence of the risk factor. We make our investments to make a profit, but we need to take every possibility into consideration.

I think Bitcoin's 4-year cycles will continue and the bull season will occur in 2024. There may be a 1-year delay, but we will finally experience the bull season. We all want the value of our investments to increase. I don't want to say anything that will be 2x or 3x, but I think there will be a new ATH.
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October 19, 2023, 09:56:55 PM
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That's what makes me uneasy because it's where ppl will make biggest losses. New bitcoin buyers join the usual masses every day without understanding if there's any risks of over investments. Halving's creating new investment ops. If investors intend on short sales because of halving they'll get in trouble.
Short sales can be very risky if the lender withdraws the asset before the price has a chance to fall.

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October 19, 2023, 09:58:37 PM
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I don't consider my investment goal to be doubling my money, but rather a return on what I have invested. That's the profit I expect from this investment, but I don't have a definite target when I will take this profit. If the price of bitcoin can reach x2 in the next few months due to halving factors or so on, then maybe I will take some of the profits and keep the rest for a longer period of time.

So far I've consistently accumulation as much as I can, but I only plan to do it until the halving. If the price of bitcoin during the halving has reached $50k, then I will stop accumulation and wait for the best moment to take profits. This is just a plan, but it may still change should the price of bitcoin not exceed $50k at the halving.
Well, it's also not wrong to expect massive returns from our investment like seeing it 3x or even 4x from our investment capital. But that will only happen if you are a high-profile investor and is putting exceedingly large amount on your investment. For sure, you will reap what you sow in time. But if we are just a small scale investor, then never expect too much. If you invest minimal amount, you will only profit a small amount as well no matter how bullish its price is.

However, one should not invest and think of immediate profits. You will only lose your chance seeing your investment with bigger yields. Just invest a good amount of bitcoin and hold it for long term, the result will still be a lot of profits when you make an investment and just try to forget about it. Let's say if you hold for maximum of 5 years, surely you will reap highly exceptional amount of profits.

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When you invest, you should be ready for everything. You might see double of your investments, or even triple profits. You can also face losses and anything can happen to be frank. What we can do is just estimate based on past growth and future projections. We have seen Bitcoins follow a 4 year cycle to reach ATH price, and 2024 is expected to be the 4th year. So yes if that happens then we can see 3x the investment. So let’s hope for the best and keep on accumulating the coins.

We should never forget the existence of the risk factor. We make our investments to make a profit, but we need to take every possibility into consideration.

I think Bitcoin's 4-year cycles will continue and the bull season will occur in 2024. There may be a 1-year delay, but we will finally experience the bull season. We all want the value of our investments to increase. I don't want to say anything that will be 2x or 3x, but I think there will be a new ATH.

In the current price, if we break the ATH on this cycle it is given that our investment today when Bitcoin is @ $28,814.90 will be more than doubled.  The good thing with investment is that even though it has risk, the risk can be mitigated or nullified through intensive study and research of the market.  And with Bitcoin investment that has a 4-year cycle pattern, it is much easier to predict whether our investment will gain profit or not.  Though it is true that the past performance is not indicative of the future performance but history has been proven to repeat itself especially when a cycle is developed.
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October 20, 2023, 02:43:37 PM
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In the current price, if we break the ATH on this cycle it is given that our investment today when Bitcoin is @ $28,814.90 will be more than doubled.  The good thing with investment is that even though it has risk, the risk can be mitigated or nullified through intensive study and research of the market.  And with Bitcoin investment that has a 4-year cycle pattern, it is much easier to predict whether our investment will gain profit or not.  Though it is true that the past performance is not indicative of the future performance but history has been proven to repeat itself especially when a cycle is developed.
History does prove to repeat itself but not in the same way.
There will be some differences in the increase of ATH yesterday and ATH in the future caused by Halving.

Buying and holding for the long term now could provide more than 2x the profit if the new ATH is reached and my target at that time was $100k.
No need to do detailed research on the upcoming ATH of Bitcoin because it will happen, just need to be patient and hold for the long term until the ATH target is reached.

2024-2025 will hopefully be a bullish year for Bitcoin and more investors will come in.
Now, many have also given their crazy predictions about the price of Bitcoin, so we just need to be prepared with our bags.

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History does prove to repeat itself but not in the same way.
There will be some differences in the increase of ATH yesterday and ATH in the future caused by Halving.

Buying and holding for the long term now could provide more than 2x the profit if the new ATH is reached and my target at that time was $100k.
No need to do detailed research on the upcoming ATH of Bitcoin because it will happen, just need to be patient and hold for the long term until the ATH target is reached.

2024-2025 will hopefully be a bullish year for Bitcoin and more investors will come in.
Now, many have also given their crazy predictions about the price of Bitcoin, so we just need to be prepared with our bags.
I would say that breaking ATH will be the similar part, but the % difference will not be the same. If we want to compare, we have dropped all the way to 4k last time around, and went to 68k levels at the peak, that was the price before the halving and that was the peak after the halving.

If we were to use it for the same math, that would mean we dropped to 15k and should be going towards 250k or so in order to make the same type of increase that we had last time around. Now, I do believe that we are going to break over that ATH but I do not think that 250k is all that possible, that would be a lot more than what we bargained for and that should not really be all that easy to handle neither, we need to find something that would be a little bit different.
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The purpose of investing more is to earn more as well. Why not do it as long as it won't compromise our finances and if we are willing to take risks? It is an individual decision and for sure, we know the situation and the consequences that may happen if ever we fail.
If it has been asked if it is more profitable, I believe it is as long as we are investing profitable coins as well. Because it depends on the coins that we invested but if we are buying shitcoins, expect more losses than earning a profit.

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October 20, 2023, 08:56:18 PM
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If we were to use it for the same math, that would mean we dropped to 15k and should be going towards 250k or so in order to make the same type of increase that we had last time around. Now, I do believe that we are going to break over that ATH but I do not think that 250k is all that possible, that would be a lot more than what we bargained for and that should not really be all that easy to handle neither, we need to find something that would be a little bit different.
The same history will probably repeat itself but to reach the price of 250k it will take a long time until 2050, but we assume with a realistic target that the price of 100k will probably be achieved after the halving period, the market increase this week indicates that the bullish season will soon come ahead of the halving period. I have added investment assets before being bullish and I am sure the target of 100k will be achieved in 2024-2025, so make sure you immediately determine your investment steps before the market reaches high prices, take advantage of investment opportunities wisely by considering risk factors and allocate investment funds that are not related to basic needs and emergency funding needs.

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If we were to use it for the same math, that would mean we dropped to 15k and should be going towards 250k or so in order to make the same type of increase that we had last time around. Now, I do believe that we are going to break over that ATH but I do not think that 250k is all that possible, that would be a lot more than what we bargained for and that should not really be all that easy to handle neither, we need to find something that would be a little bit different.
The same history will probably repeat itself but to reach the price of 250k it will take a long time until 2050, but we assume with a realistic target that the price of 100k will probably be achieved after the halving period, the market increase this week indicates that the bullish season will soon come ahead of the halving period. I have added investment assets before being bullish and I am sure the target of 100k will be achieved in 2024-2025, so make sure you immediately determine your investment steps before the market reaches high prices, take advantage of investment opportunities wisely by considering risk factors and allocate investment funds that are not related to basic needs and emergency funding needs.
People should really be having that realistic approach because if you wont really be finding yourself that having that kind of path taking then most likely you would really be making those speculations which it turns out to be non-realistic on which in this case the desperate acts and doings will really be likely to happen. This is why it would really be just that wise that we should really be sticking into things which we do see that it could possibly happen on a particular time frame. Yes, we do able to witness that bull run which we didnt anticipate that the price would really be hitting up those numbers but we should really be that realistic this time that if ever it hits up 69k on ATH then it would really be that something that too hard on reaching out $150k on next one.
As we do go further then the harder it do gets if we do speak about multipliers yet value is becoming that too big on which comes into a point that it would really be that so hard to reach on.

If you are anticipating for $500k or even a million then there's no way that it could happen so easily.We would be needing that global scale type of adoption and recognition
about this matter and this is why it would be better to have that realistic approach rather than on having these numbers in mind which it makes you that simply being
that too delusional.
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I would say that breaking ATH will be the similar part, but the % difference will not be the same. If we want to compare, we have dropped all the way to 4k last time around, and went to 68k levels at the peak, that was the price before the halving and that was the peak after the halving.
Those were the unusually bullish times that Bitcoin reached in the 3rd Halving.
People panicked to sell Bitcoin until it dropped to $4k and eventually reached an ATH of $68k leaving behind overly panicked sellers.
The percentage, of course, will not be the same absolutely, there will be some differences, we just have to wait for the Bullish version of the 4th Halving.

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Now, I do believe that we are going to break over that ATH but I do not think that 250k is all that possible, that would be a lot more than what we bargained for and that should not really be all that easy to handle neither, we need to find something that would be a little bit different.
Surpassing the ATH is Bitcoin's current goal and is everyone's prediction to reach $100k+.
But $250k is a pretty high price.

We need to break $100k first and should stay there before going for the highest price.
It's a lot of process and it will fluctuate.

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