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November 17, 2023, 02:49:02 PM
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Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?
That’s the situation with wars, it comes with absolute and irreparable destruction that did take years to build.
It’s an unfortunate situation but, one that you cannot repair in the blink of an eye neither will you be able to hold anyone accountable.
One thing is for sure, people have lost more than seed phrases and wallet password. People own business that worth a lot and are life dependent. How then do they go about rebuilding an investment that has been reduced to rumbles. It’s just the situation with war and there is absolutely nothing anyone could do about it.

Security and privacy have it’s cons and this is one of them.

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November 17, 2023, 03:09:28 PM
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Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?

If you saved the one with the seed phrase as your backup, you can still recover it after the war, for sure. But if you don't know where you put it, there is definitely no chance for you to recover it.

That's why it's really important that you have backups, not just one; you should have many backups to make sure that you can also recover when you suffer from such a battle with every country in the world.

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November 17, 2023, 09:36:50 PM
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Back to the point, I know it's not safe, but I would create two email accounts set a 2FA on both of the accounts, and send an email to my other email writing the seed phrase. If I survive, my phone is likely to survive as well.
Nice idea. for someone whose country is at war would require. This is the ideal way to save a seed phrase, in my opinion, because if you write it down on paper or a steel plate, as some people suggest, you run the risk of losing it or misplacing it due to a bomb explosion. However, if you send your seed phrase to your email that has 2FA security enabled on both, your seed phrase is safe and will be accessible even after the war is over.

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November 17, 2023, 09:46:43 PM
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Wars don't just break out, there must have been some signs and if you are living in such country you need to get the hell out before it gets worse, I knew some people living in Ukraine before the war began, they evade the country and after the real war on Ukraine started.

This is one of the reasons why emergency money is good, always have this in mind, as your home might become that of a stranger some day, I trust myself in this category as I am not always that lose when it comes to unexpected events, I am the type that always expect the unexpected.

Since you aren't in Israel or other countries that are at war still doesn't mean you should be prepared, as I read someone saying why worry when you are not in such countries, no where is ever safe and there is nothing different between you are people living in such countries, same thing can happen in any country, big or small.

I don't agree with you. I myself am a citizen of Ukraine, a resident of Kyiv. On February 24, I suggested that my wife leave the city, since there were very high risks of both shelling and the arrival of the country’s troops, an international terrorist, in Kiev (by the way, they even partially entered Kiev in several areas, but were destroyed). My son and I went and signed up for the Kyiv Territorial Defense. Why ? The answer is simple: this is MY country, this is MY city, and if we all “ran away from the war”, both in Kiev and in Ukraine there would already be the so-called “Russian world”, but in fact - a mixture of Nazism and terrorism, i.e. .e. RASHISM.
There would have been many millions of civilians killed at the hands of Kremlin Nazism, even more cities and destinies destroyed. Therefore, we MUST defend our land, our country, our family!

My wife did not go anywhere, saying that we must go through all this only together. In Ukraine, women also behave courageously and responsibly...

Regarding the storage of access data to wallets, I forwarded them to two of my friends whom I trust and who live in other countries (immigrants from Ukraine, but in the 1990s-2000s they moved to live in other countries), leaving the contacts of all family members (phone, various instant messengers, mail , social networks....), in case of unforeseen situations, and loss of contact with me

I won't discuss the wars that happened and who was right and who was wrong. But if everyone tries to flee the country when it is at war, are we patriotic citizens? And if everyone has the mentality of running away, who will stay and fight to keep the country? This is a selfish mindset and people with this mindset do not deserve to return after the country is at peace. They are even more unworthy of making any demands from the government because they do not help the country.

Regarding storage, there are many ways to do it because we live in a technological world, as long as we can still connect to the internet, I think finding a temporary storage place will not be too difficult.
Patriotic issues or correlated into these things wont really be something that a concern for those people who do live on such places.They wont care on the time that they are on verge or condition
which war is happening.They dont care about those things as long they could get out on which it isnt really that shocking nor surprising on the things that they would gonna do.
Our family's safety would really be our main priority and there's no way that we could put up other things above it. So dont get shocked if people would really
go into that certain extent just for saving up themselves and their loved ones.

Speaking about storing up those coins then if you are already aware that war is happening then it would really be ideal that you should be storing up your keys on cloud, physical storages
would really be at great risks on losing it on the verge of war. Yes, its not recommended considering the risks but it would really be just that temporal. You cant really just that make
yourself wont really be doing something with those coins and its true that once there's internet then we could really be able to access those coins
with ease.

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November 18, 2023, 03:44:19 AM
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Anything can happen during war and if we are in that situation it is probably not the BTC assets that we think about most but the safety of ourselves and our family members and if that happens, I think you and we are ready beforehand, whether it's a matter of forgetting, there's a small or big incident, and keep it in the safest place, namely in our heads, memorize it over and over again beforehand so we don't forget either the password or the phrase, especially if we already know it. in areas with high vulnerability and large amounts of assets. if you lose your wallet phrase that's the real war.

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November 18, 2023, 08:35:58 AM
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Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?
Don't just rely on crypto assets, remember if you have previously earned income from crypto, set it aside and then build other assets online such as YouTube content creators, etc. Returning to the case that the OP wrote about, make sure we also save "keys" or "mneumonics" (backup) in case there is a case of lost laptop, cellphone or an incident such as a fire.

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November 18, 2023, 11:05:24 AM
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Back to the point, I know it's not safe, but I would create two email accounts set a 2FA on both of the accounts, and send an email to my other email writing the seed phrase. If I survive, my phone is likely to survive as well.
Nice idea. for someone whose country is at war would require. This is the ideal way to save a seed phrase, in my opinion, because if you write it down on paper or a steel plate, as some people suggest, you run the risk of losing it or misplacing it due to a bomb explosion. However, if you send your seed phrase to your email that has 2FA security enabled on both, your seed phrase is safe and will be accessible even after the war is over.

Moreover, I have learned about the PGP thing which can be used in computer and mobile devices as well, people can encrypt their seed phrase with PGP and send the encrypted message via email to save it as a document. In this way, this will be protected with another layer of security. It's batter to have it digitally because you never know when you are going to lose things. Even if you do not set 2FA in your email and encrypt your seed phrase with PGP and send your private key via email, people unlikely to understand what it is because not many people know what is PGP and how to encrypt/decrypt.
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November 19, 2023, 05:17:37 PM
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Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?

No, I didn't lose any assets or my swallow, even though my swallow was destroyed by cold, my PC was destroyed, my house was destroyed during the war. The most important thing is that I remember the 12 word phrase because until now I have self custody cold wallet storage. If you enter the crypto world, remember not your keys, not your coins, don't store your assets on any exchange, learn about cold wallets because they really really help you in saving. assets and from there we also learn what is called responsibility because with self custody that is where we can fully control our assets

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November 19, 2023, 09:07:21 PM
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Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?
I haven't experienced any war before, so things like this haven't happened to me before. But if you can lose your wallet private key in a war, all you can do is just start all over. But if you store your wallet private key in multiple places, if you are lucky enough to be able to access even one of them, then you can get your bitcoin back. But if you lose access to all of them, then nothing can be done about it than to start afresh. That's just part of the effect of war, that's why we shouldn't pray for war to happen because the damage it's always causing is high.

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November 20, 2023, 12:03:54 AM
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bro, best believe that if you're in a war-torn country with no guarantee of survival, each day that you're alive and kicking is worth more than any amount of bitcoin on the planet. And I'm confident enough to say that if the third world war ever comes within our lifetimes, I'd happily take care of myself and the family that I have, first and foremost before I even begin to give a shit about the money that I've accumulated so far. Lives are irreplaceable, money can be gained back if you know the formula for success. I don't mean to be so cliche about saying this but this is literally the reality of things and you should at least have some consideration about the situation you're in first, before you even care about your money.

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November 20, 2023, 09:36:38 AM
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bro, best believe that if you're in a war-torn country with no guarantee of survival, each day that you're alive and kicking is worth more than any amount of bitcoin on the planet. And I'm confident enough to say that if the third world war ever comes within our lifetimes, I'd happily take care of myself and the family that I have, first and foremost before I even begin to give a shit about the money that I've accumulated so far. Lives are irreplaceable, money can be gained back if you know the formula for success. I don't mean to be so cliche about saying this but this is literally the reality of things and you should at least have some consideration about the situation you're in first, before you even care about your money.
The first think anyone should be worried about is survival because we all know what war does to the society and its people and property, because what is now the point of not been alive and having bitcoin. We all should not pray for war because what is even happening in the world now that most of this countries are trying to superiority and the problem is they don't put in consideration the lives of their citizens and that is what suppose to come first. You have made a great point life is not replaceable when you gone you gone. Their is no magic that can be performed to bring you back once you dead. So people place value on money than their lifes. And forgetting that money can always be earned.

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November 20, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
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Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?
War is not desirable under any circumstances, especially the war that is going on between the two countries of Israel and Palestine, I am touched. In war nothing is more precious than human life, Bitcoin wallet seems to be of no importance to any war victim. I have not yet been exposed to any of the horrors of war. However, if a bitcoin investor dies in a war or dies in a war, if his close relative knows the password or security of his wallet and if that close relative survives the war, he can recover his lost bitcoin.

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Nice idea. for someone whose country is at war would require. This is the ideal way to save a seed phrase, in my opinion, because if you write it down on paper or a steel plate, as some people suggest, you run the risk of losing it or misplacing it due to a bomb explosion. However, if you send your seed phrase to your email that has 2FA security enabled on both, your seed phrase is safe and will be accessible even after the war is over.
To be honest, all this time I have also used email as a store for initial phrases by sending from email to email as long as I have activated 2FA security. It is true that using steel plates or other physical objects will be very troublesome in a war situation, especially like the war in Palestine, of course writing phrases on plates will be very risky of being lost under the rubble of buildings, indeed steel plates are resistant to everything, but if they are buried in the ruins of buildings it will be difficult for us to find them. . There's nothing wrong with using a phrase on a steel plate, but it would be better if we used email too because it doesn't have a physical form, especially since email passwords are easier when the war is over.

In essence, keeping your wallet password is up to you, which makes it easier for you to access it again. Because sometimes the advice from many people may not be applicable to where we are.

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November 25, 2023, 03:37:22 PM
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One should keep their password save in not only a single place but they should use numerous locations where their password and seed phrase will be save because once you forget your password and also you don't have copy it to another server then I think it will be more difficult for you to recover that saved coins. Although one has no knowledge during war that what will happen next so everyone is just struggling to save their lives because life is sweeter than money. One should save their private information in soft as well as hard form because no one knows that what will happen next to their soft data and also their hard data can be lost but if you save it on multiple sources then there is a chance to recover your lost wallet again.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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November 26, 2023, 07:02:44 PM
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Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?

the coins won't go anywhere if we remember the seed phrase, so try to remember the 12 words of the seed phrase in our brain, don't write it down or take a photo. If in the middle of war we won't be saved, won't we even think about it, we will definitely save ourselves. and our families the importance of learning self custody

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You have to be creative in times of war to store your keys safely somewhere you know it's not going to be destroyed. Keeping it with you all the time is a good idea. I think I would store my keys inside my wallet, within my documents, written as a poem or letter, that is, something with emotional meaning, to avoid suspicions by potential regulators or enemies who can ask for my documents at some point of the war.

Another idea is to just memorize it. It's not an impossible task, and considering how important it is, I think nobody would complain about making some effort to memorize their keys.

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November 27, 2023, 04:48:13 AM
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in a war, even if you’ve lost everything you can still be considered as lucky since you lived
A war leaves everyone with losses if it’s only your pc that broke down
your coins are still safe given that you remember your password i just have my password memorized i have not told anyone nor have i written it on anywhere

as for seed phrases write down and keep it close to you at all times be discreet with the way you write it but in the worst case scenario wherein you lose your wallet and your seed phrase i’m afraid there’s nothing else you can do but start again i know it might seem hopeless as i know every victims of wars feel like but one needs to keep going especially if they’ve given a chance to continue life

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November 27, 2023, 05:42:41 AM
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Back to the point, I know it's not safe, but I would create two email accounts set a 2FA on both of the accounts, and send an email to my other email writing the seed phrase. If I survive, my phone is likely to survive as well.
Nice idea. for someone whose country is at war would require. This is the ideal way to save a seed phrase, in my opinion, because if you write it down on paper or a steel plate, as some people suggest, you run the risk of losing it or misplacing it due to a bomb explosion. However, if you send your seed phrase to your email that has 2FA security enabled on both, your seed phrase is safe and will be accessible even after the war is over.

Well, apart from the options above, it seems that in Telegram there is also a Saved message menu which can be used as a storage mode, but don't lose the card number and that's the main requirement to be able to re-enter after the conflict is over. I think we can also save the data there.

However, I don't know yet how much the application can protect it so that it cannot be accessed by other people. Indeed, many warnings have been given, don't save important things online, whether the initial phrase or 2Fa key.
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November 27, 2023, 07:42:26 AM
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Have you consider that you lose all your coins because the wallet phrase to your coins and PC burn in a war.
So what will you do if you survive after the war to start back your financial struggling and your crypto investment journey. Or can you get the coins back?
There is nothing you can do but acceptance and move on , because it is your fault not having back up
of your Phrases outside your computer as we knew that computers are always prone to any danger, even
water can make your computer have in trouble so the best way is to never rely in your PC to keep your phrases
and password safe .
try also to consider using back up that  can easily be handled once there is War or similar catastropy happens and if you don't know
how to handle that then you should never invest and hold bitcoin.

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November 27, 2023, 07:58:49 AM
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You have to be creative in times of war to store your keys safely somewhere you know it's not going to be destroyed. Keeping it with you all the time is a good idea. I think I would store my keys inside my wallet, within my documents, written as a poem or letter, that is, something with emotional meaning, to avoid suspicions by potential regulators or enemies who can ask for my documents at some point of the war.

Another idea is to just memorize it. It's not an impossible task, and considering how important it is, I think nobody would complain about making some effort to memorize their keys.
Actually memorizing it is the best choice, although it is not as easy as it is said, but if we try, I think nothing is impossible.
That's how it should be, keeping the private key always with us under any circumstances. So besides me keeping it in a very safe place in some places, keeping it in your wallet is also a good option.
And I also plan to engrave my personal wallet on a small steel plate and wear it as a necklace because that way my personal wallet is always with me. And that's another option besides me storing it in a place that is safe from anything, and depending on the type of dangerous condition and I will anticipate if there are signs.
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