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November 28, 2023, 03:56:47 PM
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Gamblers think that since they have won recently in gambling, they will keep on winning and make more money. This is called greediness and if you are greedy, then you cannot achieve financial success.
The casino system will give winnings and detect it where the players are given winnings then when they continue the game it means they are greedy people who can be exploited by the casino so that's how easily the casino can exploit them by reading their gambling character just by giving them winnings, at that time the making them feel confident that there will be another victory to be had.

If only they knew that it was a trap maybe they would be aware of withdrawing, if I was in that position it would be better for me to withdraw and all my winnings then play another day where I will be ready to gamble again, if that is done successfully the casino will consider you is a tough opponent and a consistent gambler, that's why it's necessary to do something that may be difficult to do, but if it is done it will have a good impact on our gambling results and provide our financial success.
Do that system exist?
Do that system been applied?

There's no way that we could be able to say unless if its proven. When it comes to the situation where you would be needing to procced or not
on the time that you would be playing and making out some wins, then it is normal that we would be thinking about getting further or would be making out bets.
Luck factor and confidence would really be on the peak or in the roof top in speaking of this one.

If you are someone whose really that minding about tomorrows gambling session then it do imposes that you are still on your senses
 because usually people who do fall out about gambling addiction are to those who dont respond that much and would really be going
after on the things that they do have in mind instead.

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November 28, 2023, 05:13:46 PM
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I have said this in my previous posts that as a gambler one needs to be wise while gambling and if it happens that you won while gambling, take a break and leave the casino that very moment or if you must continue gambling, remove your profit and just a little portion of your win should be used for continuation and upon the finishing of that particular amount you had removed, get up and take a walk out of the casino because I have never heard where a gambler wins big in a casino and decides to continue playing and winning big again on the go, it's not possible and I have never heard such instead they keep losing and losing. No casino would even want that to happen instead after winning big their attention and focus would be on that account watching how they could just make them loss everything they had won so they do not pay anything out. That is the reality and that's always the casino target whenever such happens.

It's hard to do that. When a player wins in gambling, everyone has the greed to bet bigger and never stops. There are very few people who are disciplined and willing to stop playing when they win. They always think that luck will come to them, so they try to make a lot of money. As a result, most of them will lose again.

I've been through this so much. When I win, I want more, and I've devised a plan that works well for me. Before gambling, I planned my winnings. When I succeed in gambling, I don't hesitate to withdraw that winning to carry out my plan. With the initial capital, I keep the same to continue my passion next time. Actually, I have never won big in gambling. But this solution gives me a feeling of security.

That greed is always there to win more and of a truth those without control would allow that thought come over them and in the course of winning more, they discover that they have lost all they h as s already won due to their taste for winning more. Casino operators are not fools to allow that happen. They are ready to do anything or go to any extent to making sure that win is collected back from the winner if the winner does not exercise self-restraint. This is what most gamblers do not understand they think they would just play and start winning again just like they have won initially, it is not so. It is either you stop the gamble after you had won or you just remove your profit from the win, gamble a little and when it is finished, you leave. Learn to gamble responsibly.

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November 28, 2023, 06:00:11 PM
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When I win a big prize, I will no doubt to cash out the prize because I know it is too risky to continue playing. Moreover if we play with bigger capital, it even can lead to losing all the prize. Gambling is mostly about luck, there is no guarantee to win more if we play more. Instead of winning more prizes, in many cases it lead to loses gradually. So, whenever you win a big prize, it is recommended to cash out the prize. Just come back again to play after you enjoy your winning.  Grin
Easier said than done if I'm being honest especially if you're the type of person that plays with your friends who are also gambling addicts, and you succumb so easily to peer pressure then I guess you're most likely to continue playing even after a win, there are also other indicators like quick decision when ecstatic or feeling a great surge of happiness or quick to anger due to frustrations and I believe that if you've got those two, you are likely to keep playing because it means your actions are easily influenced if not dictated by your emotions.

I think that even if we say that we cash out after a big win, it's difficult to believe that people are doing what they're preaching especially when something involves money, it's difficult to be straight with your principle when at every corner there's temptation to bend what you believe in, my point is that sometimes people who reply on this kind of advice threads don't practice what they're advicing.

As for me, I might not be able to completely quit after a big win, I know myself that I'm going to continue gambling no matter, maybe that's why I believe that those who say it's easy to get out are idiots, I guess when that happens I'll be gambling much longer than I normally do in a day.
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November 29, 2023, 10:42:51 AM
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So, whenever you win a big prize, it is recommended to cash out the prize. Just come back again to play after you enjoy your winning.  Grin
One can also use their winnings as their bankroll for the next time they gamble if the amount is significantly high, they can only use a portion of it for their next gambling session and use the remaining money for something useful that they want to do but didn't have funds for, I mean we all have something in our minds that we want to buy or do but we lack funds for that because of having a very tight budget, such extra cash won or gotten from somewhere can be used for that.

However, the majority of gamblers will make the mistake of keeping the balance inside their gambling account thinking that they will gamble again with it and win more money with it and they create an imaginative target in their mind to reach with that money but what happens is they lose it all the next time they gamble because you can't win all the time.

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November 29, 2023, 11:33:15 AM
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So, whenever you win a big prize, it is recommended to cash out the prize. Just come back again to play after you enjoy your winning.  Grin
One can also use their winnings as their bankroll for the next time they gamble if the amount is significantly high, they can only use a portion of it for their next gambling session and use the remaining money for something useful that they want to do but didn't have funds for, I mean we all have something in our minds that we want to buy or do but we lack funds for that because of having a very tight budget, such extra cash won or gotten from somewhere can be used for that.

However, the majority of gamblers will make the mistake of keeping the balance inside their gambling account thinking that they will gamble again with it and win more money with it and they create an imaginative target in their mind to reach with that money but what happens is they lose it all the next time they gamble because you can't win all the time.
That's correct, this is a strategy most common in our country. Once you make enough profit in gambling, you can withdraw your capital and use your earned profit as your bankroll for your next game. And if ever the gambler wanted to continue to play more, use the earned profit right away. This way you can continue playing without losing money.

It's also a common mistake to keep the balance without securing it. The reason for that is that gamblers don't want to make an extra effort to withdraw and secure their capital. Gamblers do not want to be interrupted during gambling as they might lose focus on playing.


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November 29, 2023, 12:09:08 PM
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That's correct, this is a strategy most common in our country. Once you make enough profit in gambling, you can withdraw your capital and use your earned profit as your bankroll for your next game. And if ever the gambler wanted to continue to play more, use the earned profit right away. This way you can continue playing without losing money.

It's also a common mistake to keep the balance without securing it. The reason for that is that gamblers don't want to make an extra effort to withdraw and secure their capital. Gamblers do not want to be interrupted during gambling as they might lose focus on playing.

I agree with this strategy. I think it's a very smart move to safeguard your capital once you win in gambling. Profiting out of your bets and plays is nice, but it's nicer to secure what you initially deposited and keep it from slipping away once you won. That way, you can have your peace of mind that you already have a breakeven, and then just use the profit earnings to gamble some more if you really want to gamble and play further.

You must not be greedy to the point that you will use all your funds including the capital and the profit itself to chase more money because you can go from 100 to 0 with that impulsive approach. Securing your money isn't really a bad thing and is something to be neglected because you could lose a lot if you will have no sense of urgency and logical thinking.
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November 29, 2023, 12:18:58 PM
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So, I ask you all, what would you do when you finally make that big win? Would you cash out immediately to enjoy your winnings, or would you keep playing in the hopes of an even more substantial prize? Shocked
One thing that guides a person in gambling is discipline, the discipline to maintain your gambling account at the minimum balance it started earlier every time that there's an overflow that comes from winning. As you hit a win, you should remove the excess funds into your savings wallet and maintain the initial amount you deposited, then you can continue gambling, the more you win, the more you relocate the funds overflow so you don't loose your profits. As soon as your funds gets exhausted on the casino, its a sign of end of gambling for the day, continue next time. Like that you'll be able to save your profits and loose only that which you deposited initially which is the  amount you could afford to loose. You might even be on very good dividends with the excesses you constantly remove earlier.

Gamble with your head and not the heart, profits should be removed immediately they are present while gambling to prevent HAD I KNOWN.

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November 29, 2023, 10:35:47 PM
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It's hard to do that. When a player wins in gambling, everyone has the greed to bet bigger and never stops. There are very few people who are disciplined and willing to stop playing when they win. They always think that luck will come to them, so they try to make a lot of money. As a result, most of them will lose again.

I've been through this so much. When I win, I want more, and I've devised a plan that works well for me. Before gambling, I planned my winnings. When I succeed in gambling, I don't hesitate to withdraw that winning to carry out my plan. With the initial capital, I keep the same to continue my passion next time. Actually, I have never won big in gambling. But this solution gives me a feeling of security.

Still, when there is a person who can take you away from the casino in time - it looks much more reliable than trying to control yourself - you can't be firmly sure of the reliability of your own nervous system

Well, this is probably more reliable. This person is definitely our parent or wife and children. They were able to convince me to stop playing and leave the casino. It's actually very difficult for us to control ourselves when we're winning or losing in gambling. Our mind keeps urging us to keep playing. Voluntarily stopping playing is difficult. Thank you very much for this helpful advice. I will apply it immediately. I believe the success rate will be higher than my plan.

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December 02, 2023, 01:04:50 PM
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$100 for a month might be too small for me if I'm into gambling. I'm the kind of gambler who loves to go all in, seizing the moment, if you know what I mean. Gambling, for me, is only fun if you win big money, and there's that thrill with betting. So, I guess having $100 budgeted for that period of time wouldn't make the gambling experience thrilling at all. But, of course, we all have different risk tolerance levels and budgets. As long as you find excitement in what you're doing, I suppose that's what matters most in the world of gambling.

Thank you for your words! Thank you for, while being a high roller, not telling me that my gambling style is boring. You are right: if for me it's fun, then it's fun, right?  I'm not saying that for me it's possible to have fun always winning only $10-$20, no. I would probably call that boring too. But the thing is that several times my winning were above $200 on slots while I was betting only 20 cents and couple of times I won more than $1,000 in poker tournaments. And that's what I call fun, actually.

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December 02, 2023, 07:04:14 PM
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I have said this in my previous posts that as a gambler one needs to be wise while gambling and if it happens that you won while gambling, take a break and leave the casino that very moment or if you must continue gambling, remove your profit and just a little portion of your win should be used for continuation and upon the finishing of that particular amount you had removed, get up and take a walk out of the casino because I have never heard where a gambler wins big in a casino and decides to continue playing and winning big again on the go, it's not possible and I have never heard such instead they keep losing and losing. No casino would even want that to happen instead after winning big their attention and focus would be on that account watching how they could just make them loss everything they had won so they do not pay anything out. That is the reality and that's always the casino target whenever such happens.

It's hard to do that. When a player wins in gambling, everyone has the greed to bet bigger and never stops. There are very few people who are disciplined and willing to stop playing when they win. They always think that luck will come to them, so they try to make a lot of money. As a result, most of them will lose again.

I've been through this so much. When I win, I want more, and I've devised a plan that works well for me. Before gambling, I planned my winnings. When I succeed in gambling, I don't hesitate to withdraw that winning to carry out my plan. With the initial capital, I keep the same to continue my passion next time. Actually, I have never won big in gambling. But this solution gives me a feeling of security.

That greed is always there to win more and of a truth those without control would allow that thought come over them and in the course of winning more, they discover that they have lost all they h as s already won due to their taste for winning more. Casino operators are not fools to allow that happen. They are ready to do anything or go to any extent to making sure that win is collected back from the winner if the winner does not exercise self-restraint. This is what most gamblers do not understand they think they would just play and start winning again just like they have won initially, it is not so. It is either you stop the gamble after you had won or you just remove your profit from the win, gamble a little and when it is finished, you leave. Learn to gamble responsibly.
This is not about the gambling house being foolish to let anyone continue to win, even with the best provably fair system, no one can continue to win over and over again unless the person is lucky, and such luck doesn't come often. This is why gamblers should be using their senses, they should know when to play and when to halt, the house could be neutral too even as gamblers lose steadily. Gambling is a game in which everyone must know their strengths and weaknesses and have their budgets and plans too. If you are not so coordinated and have your mind, it might continue to fool you as though you will be winning over when you continue to play.

How do people even know they will not continue to win if they continue playing? If you can't answer the question correctly, I think the best is to have some plans and a good budget before daring to gamble at all as we are all trying our luck and anything could happen either good or bad, but not only bad as people say.

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Well, this is probably more reliable. This person is definitely our parent or wife and children. They were able to convince me to stop playing and leave the casino. It's actually very difficult for us to control ourselves when we're winning or losing in gambling. Our mind keeps urging us to keep playing. Voluntarily stopping playing is difficult. Thank you very much for this helpful advice. I will apply it immediately. I believe the success rate will be higher than my plan.

The fate can be rewritten using the game play with the skills and tactics by quit of play the random bet in the gambling sites.If the game was not going well,it's better to do the quit of play at the middle and cash out the entire money form the gambling site immediately instead of losing the entire money in the gambling sites.The entire game was based on the luck in the gambling site,if you had the bad luck in the gambling site.Their is no wrong to quit the game at the middle of the game,in the bad luck you may loss the 50 percentage of the deposited money.So gambler should withdrew the fifty percentage of deposited money and play the game after some times for the safety of some dollars.The gambler can recover the loss money,when he had good luck in the future.

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Usually when you hit a big profit , you should insta cash out and buy yourself something or you will end up making another deposit with the money you just withdrew a few hours or days ago. However ,if you have hot streak day , you should give it a try and keep playing a bit more but as soon as you realize you are just losing money , just leave and cash out for good.  Cool

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Usually when you hit a big profit , you should insta cash out and buy yourself something or you will end up making another deposit with the money you just withdrew a few hours or days ago. However ,if you have hot streak day , you should give it a try and keep playing a bit more but as soon as you realize you are just losing money , just leave and cash out for good.  Cool

Yes it should be like that but the problem is that it won't be that easy buddy, there are many factors that will be a barrier to why they are difficult / difficult to do so, if indeed you are getting a pretty good luck phase by winning a certain amount then that's where your patience will be tested, will you be able to resist all the temptations not to overdo it or not? I think only a few can do that, and that's why there are now more people  who are down than those who stay fine.

The casino has given you  some winnings that were driven by your luck at a certain time but unfortunately you couldn't take advantage of the situation and circumstances, instead of withdrawing and enjoying the results of your winnings with a glass of beer but you chose to continue in the hope of getting something bigger, when on the other hand different times mean different luck too, which means that not necessarily the next time luck will still hold for you. So it's better to do what you should do, meaning make the best choice from the results of common sense considerations.

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December 02, 2023, 10:39:29 PM
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Usually when you hit a big profit , you should insta cash out and buy yourself something or you will end up making another deposit with the money you just withdrew a few hours or days ago. However ,if you have hot streak day , you should give it a try and keep playing a bit more but as soon as you realize you are just losing money , just leave and cash out for good.  Cool
That's what gamblers who win big should do. But the reality is some gamblers continue gambling because they still have the belief that they can win big again. But as we know, greed will not help him to win any more money. He had to realize that.

Withdrawing winning money is something that gamblers who win a lot of money should do. It was something he rarely got, so it was the best moment to cash it in and buy something to celebrate.

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Yes, we always have to know our limits as far as we can go, we don't have to let Ourselves be carried away by emotions, it is clear that we all know our limits at some point , the Worst thing is that emotions, they can also play tricks on us, yes We are all trying to see if the best thing about this is that if we manage to have control of our own money , we don't need Anything else, but to be there to play it as it is, apart from another option is to know how to control it, many talk about self-control and it is not so easy, things with self-control are quite Serious , I personally would say that self-control will always be one of those factors that we all at some point can do and Generate the best for Ourselves, sometimes the game is that, simple Play a game, we should not become dependent on games of chance to feel happy , or feel Adrenaline, specially when it comes to money , gambling will Always be better and adrenaline, but knowing how to handle it is not something so simple to achieve.

Personally, I would say that the activities of the game as such are good to take to the level they are, just for enjoyment, because the casinos, as I have said on many occasions, are always for them to win, it is normal, it is their business, that is why were created, for casino owners to make money and offer great fun in return, that is a Concept that we should all understand, mature and accept, every player knows that in a casino what is sought is that, but for this reason it is It's good that casinos are always considered a means of Generating more income, but when you are playing with a Controlled balance, the rest cannot be seen as work, as has been stated on many occasions in other threads, and where the majority of everyone We agree that this is not the case, but it is also an art to know when to retire and when it is enough, for that reason we will Always have and ask to do better.

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This is not about the gambling house being foolish to let anyone continue to win, even with the best provably fair system, no one can continue to win over and over again unless the person is lucky, and such luck doesn't come often. This is why gamblers should be using their senses, they should know when to play and when to halt, the house could be neutral too even as gamblers lose steadily. Gambling is a game in which everyone must know their strengths and weaknesses and have their budgets and plans too. If you are not so coordinated and have your mind, it might continue to fool you as though you will be winning over when you continue to play.

How do people even know they will not continue to win if they continue playing? If you can't answer the question correctly, I think the best is to have some plans and a good budget before daring to gamble at all as we are all trying our luck and anything could happen either good or bad, but not only bad as people say.

For sure it is a good thing to plan and have your budget if you must gamble because no one can predict a win or loss while gambling as it is a thing of  "luck" but it is normal that one either wins or loses a game.

The gambling house is always at alert to watch out for winners who had won big and continue to gamble rather than going away with their win. I had to think about this, if a gambler could be able to win big after spending money playing for a long time and finally luck shines bright on them, would it not be better they walk away with their wins instead of playing and I was still curious about the fact that do they not remember all the loses they had recorded before that big win for them to have a clean thought of leaving the casino with their win at that very moment.
I'm still wondering what makes a gambler to still continue gambling after that big win experience without having a thought of their loses which could have steered them up to leaving the casino with their wins.

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December 05, 2023, 10:14:53 AM
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Usually when you hit a big profit , you should insta cash out and buy yourself something or you will end up making another deposit with the money you just withdrew a few hours or days ago. However ,if you have hot streak day , you should give it a try and keep playing a bit more but as soon as you realize you are just losing money , just leave and cash out for good.  Cool
That's what gamblers who win big should do. But the reality is some gamblers continue gambling because they still have the belief that they can win big again. But as we know, greed will not help him to win any more money. He had to realize that.

Withdrawing winning money is something that gamblers who win a lot of money should do. It was something he rarely got, so it was the best moment to cash it in and buy something to celebrate.

True I agree to that, honestly for me personally at first I always rejected the assumptions or actions that had to be done out of my common sense to make withdrawals when I got a certain amount of victory, I always prefer to continue the game with higher hopes and confidence because at that time I thought that luck was coming my way and I tried to always take advantage of the situation by applying greed, do you know what the end result was? yes occasionally as expected but more lost and I felt disappointed because all the money I won was lost again, it was really painful. For now I prefer to make peace with myself and forget about all those events, and also I try to reduce activity, if I have won there is nothing else I think about except immediately withdrawing it, the disappointing situation is very boring for me.

On the other hand I'm sure it's not just me who feels that way, but most of the gamblers who apply greed will feel the same disappointment when it turns out that their luck has run out and end up losing everything, but maybe some of them or most of them still don't realize that the action is actually wrong. There's nothing else and I admit it's better to just be grateful for your first win regardless of the amount.

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December 05, 2023, 01:17:19 PM
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True I agree to that, honestly for me personally at first I always rejected the assumptions or actions that had to be done out of my common sense to make withdrawals when I got a certain amount of victory, I always prefer to continue the game with higher hopes and confidence because at that time I thought that luck was coming my way and I tried to always take advantage of the situation by applying greed, do you know what the end result was? yes occasionally as expected but more lost and I felt disappointed because all the money I won was lost again, it was really painful. For now I prefer to make peace with myself and forget about all those events, and also I try to reduce activity, if I have won there is nothing else I think about except immediately withdrawing it, the disappointing situation is very boring for me.

On the other hand I'm sure it's not just me who feels that way, but most of the gamblers who apply greed will feel the same disappointment when it turns out that their luck has run out and end up losing everything, but maybe some of them or most of them still don't realize that the action is actually wrong. There's nothing else and I admit it's better to just be grateful for your first win regardless of the amount.
It is normal for our minds to ask us to continue gambling even when we have won previously. But if we have good self-control, our thoughts will not influence us, and we can even suppress those thoughts so they don't grow bigger and ultimately affect us. We don't always expect what we want to happen, especially when we are gambling where there are wins and losses, but we will get losses more often. So instead of experiencing more and more losses, we should control ourselves and immediately stop gambling, especially when we win. Yes, making peace with ourselves will be a good way out so that we don't harbor feelings that can make us more stressed and just want to go back to gambling. We have to think about ourselves because our initial goal of gambling is just to have fun and not to make money.

Many gamblers feel the same as you. Even I feel it too. That's why we have to be able to overcome the losses so that they don't get bigger by maintaining good self-control so that we only enjoy gambling as entertainment. We also don't need to follow what other gamblers do by continuing to gamble because we are only responsible for ourselves. And if we have managed to win, we should cash out the winnings and get out of gambling immediately.

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December 05, 2023, 01:36:16 PM
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~snip~
True I agree to that, honestly for me personally at first I always rejected the assumptions or actions that had to be done out of my common sense to make withdrawals when I got a certain amount of victory, I always prefer to continue the game with higher hopes and confidence because at that time I thought that luck was coming my way and I tried to always take advantage of the situation by applying greed, do you know what the end result was? yes occasionally as expected but more lost and I felt disappointed because all the money I won was lost again, it was really painful. For now I prefer to make peace with myself and forget about all those events, and also I try to reduce activity, if I have won there is nothing else I think about except immediately withdrawing it, the disappointing situation is very boring for me.

On the other hand I'm sure it's not just me who feels that way, but most of the gamblers who apply greed will feel the same disappointment when it turns out that their luck has run out and end up losing everything, but maybe some of them or most of them still don't realize that the action is actually wrong. There's nothing else and I admit it's better to just be grateful for your first win regardless of the amount.
It is normal for our minds to ask us to continue gambling even when we have won previously. But if we have good self-control, our thoughts will not influence us, and we can even suppress those thoughts so they don't grow bigger and ultimately affect us. We don't always expect what we want to happen, especially when we are gambling where there are wins and losses, but we will get losses more often. So instead of experiencing more and more losses, we should control ourselves and immediately stop gambling, especially when we win. Yes, making peace with ourselves will be a good way out so that we don't harbor feelings that can make us more stressed and just want to go back to gambling. We have to think about ourselves because our initial goal of gambling is just to have fun and not to make money.

Many gamblers feel the same as you. Even I feel it too. That's why we have to be able to overcome the losses so that they don't get bigger by maintaining good self-control so that we only enjoy gambling as entertainment. We also don't need to follow what other gamblers do by continuing to gamble because we are only responsible for ourselves. And if we have managed to win, we should cash out the winnings and get out of gambling immediately.
Like I always said that it is hard to stop at the time a gambler start winning but it is easier to stop when one is losing too (some times) why? Because at the time a gambler starts winning he or she will put in mind to win more or to win both the one he or she has lost some days ago, but not knowing that there is always a possibility for them to lose even when they start winning.
Gamble is of luck and no one can be an expert, when I mean expert, I really mean someone that can gamble 10 to 20 time a role and win the whole.

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December 05, 2023, 01:45:58 PM
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Usually when you hit a big profit , you should insta cash out and buy yourself something or you will end up making another deposit with the money you just withdrew a few hours or days ago. However ,if you have hot streak day , you should give it a try and keep playing a bit more but as soon as you realize you are just losing money , just leave and cash out for good.  Cool
That's what gamblers who win big should do. But the reality is some gamblers continue gambling because they still have the belief that they can win big again. But as we know, greed will not help him to win any more money. He had to realize that.

Withdrawing winning money is something that gamblers who win a lot of money should do. It was something he rarely got, so it was the best moment to cash it in and buy something to celebrate.

Some gamblers believe that when you give up or cashout and go then you have given up your chances of winning more,this is usually the views of those that are addicts. So the idea for them is to continue playing and trying more luck . But for a random gambler or the newbie, a one time big winning is enough for them to run away feeling better despite how much that they have lost through the time before the winning. The losses are what an an addict consider more to keep going and not running away.

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