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October 25, 2023, 07:01:04 PM
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By not gambling at all, this is the only way to protect your privacy in gambling
I agree.

By the time that you step on into a casino, you're gonna expose your data on them and you have no choice but to be obliged on obeying them.

Even if there's a casino that tells you that you are 100% KYC safe and they'll never ask you that in the future, still don't be confident.

On the case of getting that money, I can do a lot of things with that. So be it, privacy matters or not, you'll gonna get KYCed so you have got no option though.
There is a limited privacy when we use a casino to bet but it might get worse when we start submitting our information on casinos for KYC without checking the casino if they can be trusted or not. Those that knows how to bet on non KYC casinos are more safe than people on a non KYC casinos where they would drop their information and they don't know how the team intend to do with their information. We can only gamble on a KYC casino if we know the team are highly trusted with good and high review although that is not a guarantee that we need to submit our information on a casino.

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October 25, 2023, 08:30:41 PM
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So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.
When it comes to issues with money, I doubt if there will be anybody willing to choose "privacy" over a life-changing money (i.e $70,000) in this present economy where "Sapa don dey show people Shege" (i.e. Nigerian slang which means hungry people). Because if it is I personally, I will say that I can only go for privacy, if only with my privacy I'm able to make more than $70,000 early weekly or monthly. But if with my privacy, I'm still not able to make regular $70,000, then I don't mind submitting all the necessary information just to get my $70,000. Because I didn't steal the money, I worked hard for it, and every good labourer deserves his wages.

To some extent, we have to be more proactive in our approach to the security of funds and data because sometimes our data are gravely exposed by those performs that we provide them with them for kyc procedure,  but then we have to everly settle this issue even before we make any deposits into the casinos not being amazed when we are being asked to provide some sensitive documents to verify accounts which we have already won a significantly huge amount in.

The best way to go about this issue is to choose wisely the casino that we want to gamble on and also make sure that we agree with their terms of service before we open an account in such casinos and also make sure that we read and understand the terms of service of that casino to decide whether or not we are willing to face their rules such like kKYC
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October 26, 2023, 08:38:22 AM
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One the terms and conditions of about gambling companies is never to share their customers personal data to any third party unless it happens that a customer involves himself in any illegal engagement in the company that requires them to provide personal information to a third party and most times the third party will always be a legal firm. So that's why I don't think anyone should be worried in providing their personal information to gambling companies except the person in question has in engaged in some illegal activities.
I beg to disagree. It's still much better to be careful than to be sorry later on. You can't really guarantee that a casino will not sold your personal information to other third party applications because some don't really keep their word, especially those sites that just suddenly emerged and are still new to the industry, which means there's still no reputation to uphold and to stand by. If ever you will give your personal information such as your full name, address and the likes, always make sure that you are giving it to a trusted site. Because if you happen to trust the wrong website, your identity can be robbed in a snap, and your card details can be used and be exposed to thieves.
But who will fully trust a new website anyway? We won't even get encouraged to deposit on them. How much more giving our personal information? They need to show their worth first or better if they won't ask a KYC first, so that they can still get some customers.

Casino is already a profitable business so owners should be contented already of what they are earning. Not that they will sold their customer's personal information to make more income. That's a greedy attitude. Even if let say they can get away with it. I believe there are still a bad karma that can haunt them later on where they can experience a tragic event in their lives.

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October 26, 2023, 09:40:26 AM
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' KYC verification ' the thing that I feel really makes the least sense in how to operate the next steps, but I don't mean to avoid it.

For valid identities, I think gambling platforms have not too strict verification steps, so if we don't want to provide real information, we can absolutely use alternative information, and in case as the OP assumes, I think things are quite comfortable when winning prizes and withdrawing money is simply a matter of providing your identity, so there's nothing to fear if that money is more important than your reputation, and in the case of people with important identities, they may not need that money.
I thinking using an alternative information can be a disaster if the team of the casino find out that we are not using our own information which can always backfired. The best is for us to abstain from casinos that ask for KYC or look for the ones that do ask for simple KYC verification not the one that would ask us about confirmation of our house address and certificates. This kind of verification looks complicated to me and I would never submitted something like this to online casinos when I know that it can pose a big risk to me we mostly when the information get to the wrong hands.

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October 26, 2023, 10:03:18 AM
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Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.
With the amount won compared to the capital used, I'm sure there will be many who will ultimately choose to do KYC because it's hard to just let go of a large amount like that, sometimes there are even players who are willing to do KYC only for an amount of money that is much smaller than that amount.
If you can choose, of course you will still maintain privacy by not carrying out KYC, but unfortunately almost all casinos require KYC if not at the beginning, then at times the casinos feel they have to ask for KYC from us users. That's why it's better not to move casinos just because you're chasing bonuses because KYC will be difficult to avoid.

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October 26, 2023, 10:17:14 AM
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``sometimes there are even players who are willing to do KYC only for an amount of money that is much smaller than that amount.


This is true. If the winner is apprehensive about revealing their real information through KYC, they can potentially hire someone to handle it on their behalf and pay a fee after the winnings are withdrawn. However, this is another way, and it's on the illegal side because what is being submitted is not really one's own information. But do gambling sites detect that? Of course not.

Nevertheless, the topic was primarily focused on our personal perceptions, so I still believe that most of us would opt for KYC, especially when the amount involved is hard to resist.

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October 26, 2023, 12:55:07 PM
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By not gambling at all, this is the only way to protect your privacy in gambling
I agree.

By the time that you step on into a casino, you're gonna expose your data on them and you have no choice but to be obliged on obeying them.

Even if there's a casino that tells you that you are 100% KYC safe and they'll never ask you that in the future, still don't be confident.

On the case of getting that money, I can do a lot of things with that. So be it, privacy matters or not, you'll gonna get KYCed so you have got no option though.
There is a limited privacy when we use a casino to bet but it might get worse when we start submitting our information on casinos for KYC without checking the casino if they can be trusted or not. Those that knows how to bet on non KYC casinos are more safe than people on a non KYC casinos where they would drop their information and they don't know how the team intend to do with their information. We can only gamble on a KYC casino if we know the team are highly trusted with good and high review although that is not a guarantee that we need to submit our information on a casino.
There are casinos that are also known for asking KYC but as long as you're allowed to gamble on their platform without having the need to KYC, it's because that you're not yet triggering them.

I agree also that if you're okay with KYC, make sure that you're submitting it to the casino that you trust.

Because not all of them are trustworthy especially if it's about not just the money or crypto we deposit but also with our information and IDs that we send to them.



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October 27, 2023, 03:52:13 PM
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Reputation is very important. The image of a casino is very important to gamblers because the industry is full of dishonest businesses and problems. The problems that come up when a business doesnt have a good reputation arent small things; they're disasters ready to happen. On the surface, the problem may seem simple, but its actually caused by a complex web of possible problems.

You made it clear that identity checking is more than just a formality. Because i's required by the government, dishonest companies can twist and turn it to suit their own needs. Its not just about winning; its also about keeping your money and reputation safe. As you said, the solution isnt revolutionary, but it is undeniably important: more study. Just picking a reputable business isnt enough; you have to dig deep, look closely, and stay aware all the time. Not only is it important to play the game well, but also to understand all of its subtleties.

Reputation is a very important thing not only for a casino business, it's important for every business but since we are commenting on the casino here I would like to continue without making generalizations about all businesses. Yes, unfortunately, users have a serious trust problem especially in the gambling industry and this means that gambling businesses need to be more meticulous about reputation. Especially for online casino services, reputation is as important as game variety, payment variety and ease of use. Although many gamblers are ready to lose the budget they use for gambling in these games, they prefer a reputable online casino service so that they can withdraw their money without any problems in case of a possible win.

In addition, it is very important to choose a reputable service for personal information and data security because it will not be easy to predict whether a non-reputable business will use our personal information and data maliciously. Considering that many people's personal data and information are sold on the internet today, there is no guarantee that a disreputable casino company will not sell this data and information.

In short, one of the most important criteria to evaluate especially when choosing an online casino service is reputation. In order to ensure personal data and information confidentiality to ensure money traffic in case of a possible winnigs and to receive perfect support in a possible situation the person must analyze and research the service they will use very well.
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October 27, 2023, 05:29:10 PM
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By the time that you step on into a casino, you're gonna expose your data on them and you have no choice but to be obliged on obeying them.

Even if there's a casino that tells you that you are 100% KYC safe and they'll never ask you that in the future, still don't be confident.

On the case of getting that money, I can do a lot of things with that. So be it, privacy matters or not, you'll gonna get KYCed so you have got no option though.
There is a limited privacy when we use a casino to bet but it might get worse when we start submitting our information on casinos for KYC without checking the casino if they can be trusted or not. Those that knows how to bet on non KYC casinos are more safe than people on a non KYC casinos where they would drop their information and they don't know how the team intend to do with their information. We can only gamble on a KYC casino if we know the team are highly trusted with good and high review although that is not a guarantee that we need to submit our information on a casino.
With regulatory pressures all around, there will soon be no no-KYC casinos in the industry and then those who are hesitant to provide their personal details and information to casino platforms will not have a choice but to comply with the rules and regulations imposed by the casinos. I don't say one shouldn't care about their privacy, but when we use the services of a platform, they can obviously ask us for details and information that they might need to verify whether we are clean and aren't involved in anything illegal or something.

Those who have doubts about the integrity of the platforms and think that their information might be misused should find and use the most reputable and trusted platforms of the industry to rest assured that their data is secure and it isn't going to be used for illegal means or wouldn't be sold to third parties.

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October 27, 2023, 05:55:16 PM
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With regulatory pressures all around, there will soon be no no-KYC casinos in the industry and then those who are hesitant to provide their personal details and information to casino platforms will not have a choice but to comply with the rules and regulations imposed by the casinos. I don't say one shouldn't care about their privacy, but when we use the services of a platform, they can obviously ask us for details and information that they might need to verify whether we are clean and aren't involved in anything illegal or something.

Well, we are already living in a world where there is no KYC casino. The casinos that are completely KYC free are either very new or untrusted ones and playing there is not risk free. Some of them may let you play freely but won't let you withdraw with KYC.
So unless in future we will see some Web 3 decentralized casinos, that may be with the KYC, but right now we are live in a centralized world with KYC.


Those who have doubts about the integrity of the platforms and think that their information might be misused should find and use the most reputable and trusted platforms of the industry to rest assured that their data is secure and it isn't going to be used for illegal means or wouldn't be sold to third parties.

Even trusted platforms can misuse the KYC documents, can't they? What is the proof and guarantee that they will safeguard or protect our data ?
There is no guarantee at all. I don't know why the regulators who enforce the KYC on the customers, do not set the standards for keeping our data safe too, breaching it would result in heavy fines on the casinos and centralized gambling sites.

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October 27, 2023, 06:19:02 PM
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When it comes to issues with money, I doubt if there will be anybody willing to choose "privacy" over a life-changing money (i.e $70,000) in this present economy where "Sapa don dey show people Shege" (i.e Nigerian slang which means hungry people). Because if it is I personally, I will say that I can only go for privacy, if only with my privacy I'm able to make more than $70,000 early weekly or monthly. But if with my privacy, I'm still not able to make regular $70,000, then I don't mind submitting all the necessary information just to get my $70,000. Because I didn't steal the money, I worked hard for it, and every good labourer deserves his wages.

There are people who value their privacy over 70k. Such people know the value of information and won’t be willing to put their information on just any online casino for a meagre amount of 70k.
Putting privacy in quotes like it is nothing compared to a “life changing money” of 70 grand is wild. 70k is admittedly a lot of money that, if utilized just right, can go a long way but it’s nothing compared to keeping relevant information private.

You may not be making 70k now with your privacy intact. But you can suddenly lose a lot more than 70k with certain information about you available and in the wrong hands.

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