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October 24, 2023, 07:13:56 AM
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).
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October 24, 2023, 07:46:32 AM
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Isn't it obvious ? It's because of their popularity. Streamers get a lot of views for their streams and viewers get influenced by them and start betting on the casino sites.
Although we can't say that all such streamers use fake accounts but many of them do and get paid for influencing others.
It's best to bet within our limits and on the sites that we trust. We should keep trying casino sites with very small deposits and stick to 1 or 2.

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October 24, 2023, 07:51:20 AM
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).

There are plenty of posts around that talk about Stunna/Eddie (same person from what I have read) incentivizing restricted countries to use VPNs to bypass country restrictions and use Stake, and influencers/streamers doing the same thing toward their followers. All it takes is some googling or bitcointalk searching to see the reports of such. That's only one malpractice from the casino.

I think you are partially right that LTC Casino have made the post to point out the issues with Stake, probably to benefit their casino in turn. Though if the allegations are true, then that's just a competitor taking the opportunity to gain some business. I don't blame them for exposing a competitor if the allegations are true, and from my reading, they are more likely to be true than untrue.

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October 24, 2023, 08:05:00 AM
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Not just in gambling world only, anything the streamers around the world offers are been sponsored, this is how they make their own money, if you are the type that believes in things easily you will be filled easily, I don't always believe such entertainments because it's fill with lies and staged games.

Most streamers gets paid by bringing in people to the casino, they have only one goal, to influence many people as possible and that is what increase their paycheck.

Avoid them and gamble within your limits, use only trusted gambling platforms and leave the rest, some reputable casinos use streamers also and that doesn't make them bad but be careful when picking your online casino.

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October 24, 2023, 08:22:19 AM
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Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?
You have to check it yourself if you want to know the truth, I didn't click on the link you linked and because I'm not someone who is interested in watching broadcasts from gambling streamers, I don't care at all if it's true, but if there is a fake streamer would have very little of viewers because usually gamblers will only watch broadcasts from known streamers.
And you don't need to be confused about why Twitch and Kick are full of broadcasts from gambling streamers because it has been going on for a long time and specifically for Kick, it became even more famous when Twitch banned crypto casinos from broadcasting on that platform.
What about doing your own research? This happens a lot, especially when people are online. Thats exactly why human verification is so important. Yeah, why waste time on people you don't know, right? When it comes to gaming, trustworthiness is absolutely essential. Strange or unreliable material won't get anyone's attention.

Turning the camera around a bit, it's interesting to see how platforms like Kick have used Twitch's choices to their advantage. A classic case of one door closed and another opening. Content creators will always find ways to get their work out there, even if some sites ignore them. Whats the basic idea? Be careful, think critically, and always, always ask questions about what you see before you start.

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Last edit: October 24, 2023, 12:05:34 PM by angrybirdy
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There are two types of streamers currently in the streaming platforms. One who invests funds from himself and gambles to entertain people. Another one is who get sponsored by the casinos to play in those and hence they gamble. Now there is no need to call anyone fake according to me. They have done enough hardwork also to reach this position. So yes it’s according to them whether they will promote a site or how they will stream. If you don’t like them, then just ignore and move on.

As far as I know, some streamers have literally no idea of what they'd advertise or they don't really play it in real life just like what others feature in their posts and streams. Some casino hires many influencers nowadays, that's one of their marketing and advertising strategy to gain players, investors, and clients. Influencers and Streamers received sponsors and business proposals not just for gambling but also to introduce new online games in the market. Yes, we can't call them fake, they're just doing their job.



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October 24, 2023, 09:38:06 AM
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).
Yes it is obvious that a one sided article , and believing streamers is like letting your money being taken by casino houses that easy.
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October 24, 2023, 09:59:38 AM
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Isn't it obvious ? It's because of their popularity. Streamers get a lot of views for their streams and viewers get influenced by them and start betting on the casino sites.
Although we can't say that all such streamers use fake accounts but many of them do and get paid for influencing others.
It's best to bet within our limits and on the sites that we trust. We should keep trying casino sites with very small deposits and stick to 1 or 2.
As a business owner then it would really be just that normal that you would really be putting up focus into those known or popular influencers or streamers when it comes to marketing as much as possible knowing that exposure would really be that more wide if the said  streamer would really be that having that tons of followers on which it would really be just that so normal that they would really be that choosing those.
Speaking about  fake then i dont think that there would really be that becoming that big or popular because once that a certain streamer does have that kind of issue on something being that manipulative
then issues could really be thrown out and would really be affecting his popularity and reputation then which means that he cant really go into the peak in speaking about being that reputable.

This is why we us viewers then it would really be just that normal that you would really be that careful on whose streamer you would really be watching into.
Its impossible though that you wont really be noticing something if there's odd something happening.

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October 24, 2023, 10:25:13 AM
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Nowadays people on the internet use all means to make money, this means they are not trying hard to lose money. Those guys who create twitch channels are creating with the intention of making a profit from it, that's why they play with little money from their pockets and when they have opportunities to be sponsored by the casino then obviously they will play using the money that the casino gave them to play. Now how would this be considered fake? If the owner of the channel did not say that he plays with money from his pocket and was honest in saying that it is being sponsored by a casino, then he cannot be considered dishonest, because he was honest in saying where the money comes from so he can do everything bets

It becomes fake and dishonest when the guy doesn't say where the money comes from for him to place bets and lies that he uses money from his pocket to place bets when in fact he is being sponsored by a casino. Another very important point is that people should not copy everything these stream channel owners do and say. because we all know that in games of chance people rarely come out with a profit, there are more losses than profits. By the way, OP, I see that you created an account last year but only now did you decide to make this post and precisely with an article that was created by a certain casino that in the past was involved in a controversy that reduced their popularity. this is very strange

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The good thing is that they at least are not on YT anymore. Not interested people never will find them. Unless they are Drake fans
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October 24, 2023, 12:16:10 PM
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There are two types of streamers currently in the streaming platforms. One who invests funds from himself and gambles to entertain people. Another one is who get sponsored by the casinos to play in those and hence they gamble. Now there is no need to call anyone fake according to me. They have done enough hardwork also to reach this position. So yes it’s according to them whether they will promote a site or how they will stream. If you don’t like them, then just ignore and move on.

As far as i know, some streamers has literally no idea on what they'd advertise or they don't really play it in real life just like what others features in their posts and streams. Some casino hires many influencers nowadays, that's one of their marketing and advertising strategy to gain players, investors and clients. Influencers and Streamers received a sponsors and business proposals not just in gambling but also to introduce new online games in the market. Yes, we can't call them fake, they're just doing their job.
What you say is true because an influencer is usually paid quite large amount but some of them don't really know what they are promoting because an influencer only prioritizes payment and not anything else related to the site.
But there are indeed many influencers like those in the article shared by the OP even though I haven't actually found them quite a lot of gamblers have said so and have found them.

In my country there are several similar cases but most of them are influencers who have all the requirements for streaming gambling have been prepared by the gambling site so that the influencer only needs to broadcast it.
Most of them are casino accounts that have been prepared by the site and the accounts used to play and broadcast have very high winning percentage so losses occur less frequently.
Things like this will make more people interested especially new gamblers who don't have much gambling experience.

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October 24, 2023, 01:07:44 PM
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well, is totally different to see a streamer playing with $1k than a streamer playing with $9M... And that is why these streams are that attractive to users, because is crazy to see guys playing $50k hands on blackjack, or doing $100k bonus buys, is just a high-quality bait.

But i wouldn't say is fake money, streamers have a roll-over, just like the depo bonus rules, if they can bet the starting balance X times, then they can keep the money. Each casino have it's own rules about this.
Every streamer has a different deal. Some have the rollover like you mentioned, some just have to stream for x hours and keep what's left, and some have to stream and get to keep 10% of the balance that's left. There are other deals out there as well, but they all depend on many factors. How many viewers you get in your stream on average, how many followers you have, how often you can/will stream, what sort of balance you want to play with, etc. All of this is considered before a casino will even offer you a deal, if certain numbers aren't there then a casino will not offer you a deal. You also have to have depositors if/when you get a deal. If people aren't making deposits under your code, you will lose your deal within 2 weeks. Casino has to be gaining something from you or there is no point in having you on their payroll.

If you are a streamer with a nice number of viewers( not from a viewbot as that's worthless)(min 50-100 average viewers) and have an active chat, I may be able to get you a deal. I would have to verify a few things before getting you in contact with my contact. Send me a pm or message on telegram @yahoo62278 and maybe I can help you out. Don't waste my time though, I'm not contacting anyone for you if you have a viewbotted channel. It's pretty easy to spot.

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October 24, 2023, 01:23:16 PM
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Yes, we can't call them fake, they're just doing their job.
Acting like they are risking their own money with the casino supporting them in various ways is most definitely considered fake/artificial behaviour and there is no need to sugercoat it.

They know damn well what they are doing and they are earning well by fooling gamblers around the world. Think!

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You're asking why casino streamers are fake? why you're not ask why people are wasting their time to watch someone who gamble? if there's no market, the casino will not want to spend money for that marketing strategy since there's many other ways.

Gambling is about luck especially the streamer is playing slots, it's really worth to watch someone sad, happy, angry and just click spin button?

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October 24, 2023, 01:41:55 PM
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Internet companies do all the crazy tricks to promote their services. And it's not just the gambling industry that does all these because the adult industry is the worst of it all. A chick on the camera can actually make the jackass pay for more ballistic positions or a Facebook friend request with a petite girl can bring a maniac go to an adult dating site.

In the gambling industry which is very competitive, they could really be just rolling out their own money or a new owner of a casino may even do a streaming himself just to promote and them scam clients in the end.
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October 24, 2023, 02:53:03 PM
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You're asking why casino streamers are fake? why you're not ask why people are wasting their time to watch someone who gamble? if there's no market, the casino will not want to spend money for that marketing strategy since there's many other ways.

Gambling is about luck especially the streamer is playing slots, it's really worth to watch someone sad, happy, angry and just click spin button?
Well, like i have mentioned here before, I personally do not fancy watching such things as a streamer gambling and all that, but let me say that there are a lot of people, mostly gamblers, who actually find such things as very interesting, and maybe informative as well, since depending on the type of game the streamer is playing, the watchers could learn a thing or two from the stream, they could also learn some gambling strategies which they could apply to their own gambling, most especially if they watched the streamer use and it worked for him or her.

Every gambler, no matter how small is looking for ways how to play and win, watching streams is a pure entertainment for some gamblers and people, while it is an information base and a sources of new ideas and strategies for others, so it is not all about just wanting to watch a person happy or sad as you assume.

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October 24, 2023, 09:07:44 PM
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.


The link you shared is too long for us to read, even though the main content of the article is very easy for us to understand. the point is related to the theme of your thread title. Well, actually we can see it from various points of view, but it depends on how you respond to it. but first, to be honest, I rarely or even accidentally watch several streamers who promote gambling. If we respond to it from a different perspective, there is actually nothing wrong with that. because, after all, gambling platforms or casinos require services from those who promote them. including streamers, even those of us who use casino signatures, even though the mechanisms and theories are different.

Well, from the list of names you mentioned in the link you shared, the only one I know correctly is Draker. other than that, I don't really know about it and have only just heard about it. but all that doesn't matter, and has nothing to do with us. So, the question is, does it bother you, or make you frustrated. if so, it's best to just ignore it. and actually, of the many people who watch or view the streamers' broadcasts, they don't necessarily have the same mindset. It could be that most of the fake streamers' viewers are only interested in watching it as entertainment. It could also be, they just find out the truth behind what these fake streamers are doing. 

However, it doesn't rule out the possibility that there are some streamers who really do it just for personal enjoyment without being sponsored by a casino. Even though I don't know the person, it doesn't rule out the possibility that there are many streamers who do it for fun. After all, they also get paid from visitors who watch their broadcasts.
For me, I don't like watching streamers on various platforms. because if I want to gamble, there is no need to wait for them to broadcast live. I can do it, without having to refer to what they do, especially fake streamers.

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October 24, 2023, 09:20:44 PM
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Fake casino streamers are no longer new news, in fact, there are more than 1 or 2 casino streamers who are indicated as fake streamers, reportedly they are paid by a casino to play at their online casino, of course with the money given by the casino to that streamer's account. Honestly, I really support articles like the one above, they can be disseminated to many people, especially people who often watch their favorite vloggers or streamers so that when they see their favorite streamer gambling at an online casino, they realize that it is fake.

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October 24, 2023, 09:34:10 PM
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I'd never believe 100% of everything i see online... It's quite disastrous bro. This is how I see it ; anything technical could possibly be manipulated so YES, the article writers may be right to some extent...
Live streaming was introduced for monetary purposes too - so there's every tendency that a bot is made to play alongside, or it's partly preprogrammed ....
All the same, it's about how best you've understood every game on the streams... If an experienced gambler sees an opportunity to hit, then whatever means to lure his interest is useless.

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October 24, 2023, 10:26:49 PM
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).

But the title is misleading just to get a click.  These people are not fake casino streamer but rather sponsored by the casino to play and stream.  There is a huge difference between a fake casino streamer and being sponsored.  Whether with real money or sponsored money, these people can't be considered as fake casino streamers because the casino they representing are legit, the stream are legit, it is that the fund is sponsored by the casino.  Which of these scenario shouts a fake casino streamer? Unless the claim that they use their own money for gambling, and yet they are sponsored by the casino then they are lying.

They are hired to bring entertainment to audience while showcasing the casino services.  So these people are streaming to advertise the casino while bringing entertainment to the people.  I do not think that using the casino sponsored money should be the case here to tell that the streamers are fake.
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