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November 02, 2023, 07:43:55 AM
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How can Gambling be illegal when it is celebrated all over the world. In sports like football alot of the adverts are gambling based. We know that money laundering is one of the reasons for it's
proscription but it is just a few people so launder money through it the rest are just average males and females who gamble for several legal and moral reasons.
Dude, gambling is not legal everywhere in the world. There are many countries where gambling is a legally punishable crime. If we follow international newspapers, we can see that many people have been arrested for gambling in many countries. But it is not correct that gambling can be called totally illegal just because there are these. Gambling should be considered as a means of entertainment. Although it has a bit of a bad reputation due to money launderers, I think gambling cannot be called an illegal activity except for these simple things.
Gambling itself is not illegal, nor are the games involved in gambling. What makes gambling illegal if the owner of the casino or online casino doesn't have a permit to operate? Or maybe a gambling game built only by normal people is illegal. The OP only mixed up the article by saying that yes, gambling is one of the activities in money laundering, and that's because the one who does the laundering does gambling in secession, like using funds just to gamble; that is what is illegal.

And also, gambling will be considered illegal if a country bans it for a certain reason, but the gambling itself is not illegal; the country just decided to ban it. If gambling is illegal, then why are there existing casinos and online casinos out there? So in short, it's about the country, the permit, or the rule if they make gambling games illegal.

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November 02, 2023, 11:27:20 AM
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gambling will be considered illegal if a country bans it for a certain reason, but the gambling itself is not illegal; the country just decided to ban it. If gambling is illegal, then why are there existing casinos and online casinos out there? So in short, it's about the country, the permit, or the rule if they make gambling games illegal.
Gambling is not illegal but because there are countries that prohibit it, that makes gambling illegal. But even if gambling is illegal in a country, it doesn't stop people from gambling because they think that gambling is a quick way to make money. Online casinos are not illegal if the country allows gambling and it is true that this depends on each country because that country is the one that permits gambling. If a country prohibits gambling, people should not violate the prohibition lest they be punished for gambling. There must be rules that regulate gambling, whether they legalize it or make gambling illegal.

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November 02, 2023, 11:44:47 AM
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The gambling is not the illegal one in the most of the countries,So if your country had come into the illegal activities.So you can’t affect the mindset of the gamblers.The gambling was celebrated in the most of the where the gambling was legal one.

In our country gambling is not legal but hence most of the youngest individuals are involved in it. Its obvious that if someone is advising you to not be part of something then your desires will be increase for that thing and other reason is that if you hear that gambling is providing you maximum profit then your feelings will more likely to boost up because money is very important in life.

In those countries where gambling is legal then they take benefits of tax from gambling but for gamblers this field is unusual and unnecessary which only spoil his earned income but return will only distress you. I think people who wants to participate in gambling will not think about legal or illegal activities because they need only money and money is the thing which compelled you to do wrong deeds.

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November 05, 2023, 06:56:05 PM
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The gambling is not the illegal one in the most of the countries,So if your country had come into the illegal activities.So you can’t affect the mindset of the gamblers.The gambling was celebrated in the most of the where the gambling was legal one.

In our country gambling is not legal but hence most of the youngest individuals are involved in it. Its obvious that if someone is advising you to not be part of something then your desires will be increase for that thing and other reason is that if you hear that gambling is providing you maximum profit then your feelings will more likely to boost up because money is very important in life.

In those countries where gambling is legal then they take benefits of tax from gambling but for gamblers this field is unusual and unnecessary which only spoil his earned income but return will only distress you. I think people who wants to participate in gambling will not think about legal or illegal activities because they need only money and money is the thing which compelled you to do wrong deeds.
Very often those that are young do not care at all about the legal status of anything, as long as they feel good while doing it that is all what matters to them, and this can be a very dangerous attitude to have, because on the countries in which gambling is not legalized most of the time those persons will have to take bets at an illegal casino, which is most likely owned by criminals, and once you are in there almost anything could happen.

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November 10, 2023, 07:49:05 PM
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Gambling is not illegal but because there are countries that prohibit it, that makes gambling illegal. But even if gambling is illegal in a country, it doesn't stop people from gambling because they think that gambling is a quick way to make money. Online casinos are not illegal if the country allows gambling and it is true that this depends on each country because that country is the one that permits gambling. If a country prohibits gambling, people should not violate the prohibition lest they be punished for gambling. There must be rules that regulate gambling, whether they legalize it or make gambling illegal.

Gambling is not the illegal in the many countries,because it generate more economy flow and also control the money flow in the country.The developed countries doesn’t worry about the legalisation of the gambling,because most of the gambler will have enough money for their survive and use the free money for the gambling.If the gambling site was prohibit by the government,nearly 60 percentage of the population will follow the rules blandly.So the government plays the huge role in the gambling movement in that country.But some people the rest 40 percentage doesn’t worry about the government rule on the gambling.
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November 10, 2023, 08:18:25 PM
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Gambling is not the illegal in the many countries,because it generate more economy flow and also control the money flow in the country.The developed countries doesn’t worry about the legalisation of the gambling,because most of the gambler will have enough money for their survive and use the free money for the gambling.If the gambling site was prohibit by the government,nearly 60 percentage of the population will follow the rules blandly.So the government plays the huge role in the gambling movement in that country.But some people the rest 40 percentage doesn’t worry about the government rule on the gambling.
Even though the government regulates gambling as a prohibited activity in legislation, the reality is that gambling still operates without being banned by the government, only a few gambling sites have been prosecuted as proof that the government has worked, but big gambling is still operating because many assume that gambling gets its legality from dark spaces. IMO

So regardless of the legality of gambling in each country, there is still population data that is addicted to gambling, in countries that prohibit gambling, it may have a lower percentage of 10-15% susceptible.

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November 10, 2023, 09:18:16 PM
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 Hi guys, coming through with a rather odd question this morning.

So, i was looking up on Wikipedia the meaning of Money Laundering , and below is a quote of how the site defined the term "Money Laundering"

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Money laundering is the process of illegally concealing the origin of money, obtained from illicit activities such as drug trafficking, corruption, embezzlement or gambling, by converting it into a legitimate source. It is a crime in many jurisdictions with varying definitions. It is usually a key operation of organized crime.

So, after i saw that Gambling was mentioned or listed among the listed illicit activities through which money can or could be laundered, I can't help but wonder if gambling is actually an illicit activity.

Wikipedia did not mention gambling being an illicit activity in their definition of gambling here, why then did they mention gambling as one of illicit activity through which money laundering can be carried out?

Please check this out and share your thoughts.

I don't know how Wikipedia works, but from what I've heard, there are several Wikipedia authors who don't often update their writing, from what I've heard, there are quite a lot of officials who launder money through gambling sites, they deliberately deposit a lot of money in it so it's corruption. they smell it, they are not obliged to return the money, they can use the excuse of losing gambling to escape the obligation to return the funds they have stolen.

as long as you don't do bad things in gambling or use bad money to gamble then you don't commit bad actions or Illicit Activity.



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November 10, 2023, 09:25:25 PM
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Gambling is not illegal but because there are countries that prohibit it, that makes gambling illegal. But even if gambling is illegal in a country, it doesn't stop people from gambling because they think that gambling is a quick way to make money. Online casinos are not illegal if the country allows gambling and it is true that this depends on each country because that country is the one that permits gambling. If a country prohibits gambling, people should not violate the prohibition lest they be punished for gambling. There must be rules that regulate gambling, whether they legalize it or make gambling illegal.

Gambling is not the illegal in the many countries,because it generate more economy flow and also control the money flow in the country.The developed countries doesn’t worry about the legalisation of the gambling,because most of the gambler will have enough money for their survive and use the free money for the gambling.If the gambling site was prohibit by the government,nearly 60 percentage of the population will follow the rules blandly.So the government plays the huge role in the gambling movement in that country.But some people the rest 40 percentage doesn’t worry about the government rule on the gambling.
It would be considered to be illicit because it do becomes a tool for money laundering and other correlated transactions on which it would really be that resulting into these kind of illegal activities.
This is they the community would really be having that kind of impression without even trying out to realize that its been long time that fiat money had already been that something like this.
It is really just that there are people who are really that kind of conclusive approach basing up on their initial impressions towards gambling. They wont really be that making themselves
that be trying out to be open minded whether its been a sole reason or just basically on being a tool. We do know that things could make out involvement and ending up
on having that bad integrations on something which it isnt right in speaking on approach.

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November 11, 2023, 11:09:19 PM
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gambling will be considered illegal if a country bans it for a certain reason, but the gambling itself is not illegal; the country just decided to ban it. If gambling is illegal, then why are there existing casinos and online casinos out there? So in short, it's about the country, the permit, or the rule if they make gambling games illegal.
Gambling is not illegal but because there are countries that prohibit it, that makes gambling illegal. But even if gambling is illegal in a country, it doesn't stop people from gambling because they think that gambling is a quick way to make money. Online casinos are not illegal if the country allows gambling and it is true that this depends on each country because that country is the one that permits gambling. If a country prohibits gambling, people should not violate the prohibition lest they be punished for gambling. There must be rules that regulate gambling, whether they legalize it or make gambling illegal.
Things in the countries are very diverse, on a personal level I think that gambling will never be illegal, it will never be like that unless the casino is fraudulent, it is something that I notice, but for example in my country it has been more than 20 years since He was president and made casinos illegal because he said that there were many addicts and that the casino produced addiction, something that makes me feel childish ban on the part of that person who has already died, but what he did was set the country back for more than 40 years. advance, but that was something very disastrous what he showed in his government, I would think that a person like that can only be sorry for the bad thing that was in his mind, for me they govern us because they say or prohibit casinos and games of chance are plated to the antiuga and they really don't want their people to have fun, it seems to me a very selfish act and that they can no longer get ahead with what they have, then this is something quite ridiculous that a country prohibits gambling juices, casinos everything .

What I think is, those who think that the casino produces addicts should continue with their thinking, that no one is going to mess with them, and that they should continue thinking like that, but the majority of people do not see the casino as that, but as something that it is normal, that it is fun and that each person has the responsibility of whether or not to fall into addiction, there is a reason the casino is for people who are of legal age and consider themselves adults, it is not necessary to have one police officer on top of the other so that they can tell you what is good and what is bad, how you should bet and how you should not bet, that is something that has to be understood, furthermore, a country succeeds without prohibitions, without the need to be aware that its people is going to get involved or not going to get involved in a certain place, or that he is not in a mess, because here what matters is that things are always being done as they are without any type of problem, each person is free to do their things, and it is responsible, you must be responsible.

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November 12, 2023, 01:56:13 AM
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gambling will be considered illegal if a country bans it for a certain reason, but the gambling itself is not illegal; the country just decided to ban it. If gambling is illegal, then why are there existing casinos and online casinos out there? So in short, it's about the country, the permit, or the rule if they make gambling games illegal.
Gambling is not illegal but because there are countries that prohibit it, that makes gambling illegal. But even if gambling is illegal in a country, it doesn't stop people from gambling because they think that gambling is a quick way to make money. Online casinos are not illegal if the country allows gambling and it is true that this depends on each country because that country is the one that permits gambling. If a country prohibits gambling, people should not violate the prohibition lest they be punished for gambling. There must be rules that regulate gambling, whether they legalize it or make gambling illegal.
actually in my country gambling is an illegal game but I still do it because I think gambling is not a bad activity as long as I don't harm other people, in my country there are no offline casinos so I gamble online and currently there is a lot of online gambling which is easy to do. access for everyone, in my country many people carry out gambling activities online and so far there have been no serious problems related to gambling.
It's just that gambling is always considered bad in the environment I live in, so I gamble with friends when I am just gather or do it secretly and not many people know except my close friends.

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November 12, 2023, 02:06:20 AM
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Gambling is illegal in certain countries, especially in Muslim countries where gambling is considered haram, but gambling is a legal activity outside Muslim countries. Countries outside of Muslim countries are legal for gambling because the government gets a lot of bats from gambling sides or casinos. If gambling was an illegal activity worldwide then these gambling sites could not be sponsored by various big companies. Various famous football clubs are sponsored by gambling sites. Because of the high risk involved in gambling, gambling may be banned in some low-income countries because their governments feel that gambling is draining their country of money.

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November 13, 2023, 12:54:04 PM
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Gambling is not the illegal in the many countries,because it generate more economy flow and also control the money flow in the country.The developed countries doesn’t worry about the legalisation of the gambling,because most of the gambler will have enough money for their survive and use the free money for the gambling.If the gambling site was prohibit by the government,nearly 60 percentage of the population will follow the rules blandly.So the government plays the huge role in the gambling movement in that country.But some people the rest 40 percentage doesn’t worry about the government rule on the gambling.
Yes, it does provide a revenue stream for the country which can help the economy. Countries even use gambling as a source of income to help the economy. Gamblers can still survive because they use free money to gamble but we don't know how long they can survive. But other countries still prohibit gambling so people cannot gamble freely. And even though the government cannot earn income from gambling, it can still earn income from other business sectors.

Things in the countries are very diverse, on a personal level I think that gambling will never be illegal, it will never be like that unless the casino is fraudulent, it is something that I notice, but for example in my country it has been more than 20 years since He was president and made casinos illegal because he said that there were many addicts and that the casino produced addiction, something that makes me feel childish ban on the part of that person who has already died, but what he did was set the country back for more than 40 years. advance, but that was something very disastrous what he showed in his government, I would think that a person like that can only be sorry for the bad thing that was in his mind, for me they govern us because they say or prohibit casinos and games of chance are plated to the antiuga and they really don't want their people to have fun, it seems to me a very selfish act and that they can no longer get ahead with what they have, then this is something quite ridiculous that a country prohibits gambling juices, casinos everything .

What I think is, those who think that the casino produces addicts should continue with their thinking, that no one is going to mess with them, and that they should continue thinking like that, but the majority of people do not see the casino as that, but as something that it is normal, that it is fun and that each person has the responsibility of whether or not to fall into addiction, there is a reason the casino is for people who are of legal age and consider themselves adults, it is not necessary to have one police officer on top of the other so that they can tell you what is good and what is bad, how you should bet and how you should not bet, that is something that has to be understood, furthermore, a country succeeds without prohibitions, without the need to be aware that its people is going to get involved or not going to get involved in a certain place, or that he is not in a mess, because here what matters is that things are always being done as they are without any type of problem, each person is free to do their things, and it is responsible, you must be responsible.
Gambling can cause someone to become addicted to gambling and as we know, some countries allow gambling and some that prohibit it. Those who live in countries that allow gambling can of course, gamble freely and perhaps this is what makes many gamblers eventually become addicted to gambling. Meanwhile, for those who live in countries where gambling is prohibited, some people try to gamble but they gamble in illegal casinos where they can all be arrested if they are caught gambling. The government can indeed take advantage of the casinos in their country, but the government must also think about the impact of gambling on its people. The government needs to provide advice so that people can use gambling as a type of entertainment and not use it as a way to make money.

If people can be responsible while they are gambling, they don't need to worry about gambling addiction problems because they can definitely take care of themselves well and will not be tempted by the offers they see while they are gambling. But the problem is that not everyone can control themselves while gambling and they may lose control of themselves when they lose. But when they win, they can also lose control because their greed will get bigger and tell them to continue gambling. This is what many people who frequently gamble must understand because most of them come to casinos more often to gamble. Even though they argue that they gamble just for fun, but there is still a risk of experiencing a gambling addiction.

actually in my country gambling is an illegal game but I still do it because I think gambling is not a bad activity as long as I don't harm other people, in my country there are no offline casinos so I gamble online and currently there is a lot of online gambling which is easy to do. access for everyone, in my country many people carry out gambling activities online and so far there have been no serious problems related to gambling.
It's just that gambling is always considered bad in the environment I live in, so I gamble with friends when I am just gather or do it secretly and not many people know except my close friends.
As long as you can take care of yourself when gambling, you certainly won't worry about the problem of gambling addiction because you can prevent it from happening to you. Those who live in the same country as you can use online casinos if gambling is prohibited in your country. But you should be careful about the impacts that can be received by people who gamble frequently, especially since many people have become victims.

It's normal that many people in the area where you live think gambling is bad. Maybe they have seen what happens to someone who often gambles so they don't want one of their family members to experience the same thing so they are always alert. But, indeed, people should always be careful in gambling because they will not know when they will experience gambling problems.

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November 13, 2023, 04:56:22 PM
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So many countries do not permit gambling in their country for one reason or another, but the reasons range from potential addiction, which can make one commit a crime in other to make sure that he or she satisfies their gambling urge, gambling in many countries is not permitted because of religious ground, let's realistic any addictive behavior is not supposed to be permitted because of the danger that comes with them, let me use alcohol as a case study, do you know that so many crime has been committed because under the influence of alcohol, people has been killed, sporadic shooting has taken place in many countries because of excessive alcohol intake, even this gambling, some people are into gambling today because of alcohol.

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November 13, 2023, 05:06:27 PM
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 Hi guys, coming through with a rather odd question this morning.

So, i was looking up on Wikipedia the meaning of Money Laundering , and below is a quote of how the site defined the term "Money Laundering"

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Money laundering is the process of illegally concealing the origin of money, obtained from illicit activities such as drug trafficking, corruption, embezzlement or gambling, by converting it into a legitimate source. It is a crime in many jurisdictions with varying definitions. It is usually a key operation of organized crime.

So, after i saw that Gambling was mentioned or listed among the listed illicit activities through which money can or could be laundered, I can't help but wonder if gambling is actually an illicit activity.

Wikipedia did not mention gambling being an illicit activity in their definition of gambling here, why then did they mention gambling as one of illicit activity through which money laundering can be carried out?

Please check this out and share your thoughts.

Money laundering can happen anywhere, it can happen through club business, it can happen through groceries shop, it can happen through any legit business that have large volume of sales and trust me, nobody is going to know anything. It's like when you sell 4 bottles of Hennessey and in your record, you put 6 and then you increase the number of supply that was brought to you during uffload of goods to your shop. Gambling is just a means to launder money and it's only illicit when they find anyone guilty of such crime.

Do you even know that gambling platforms have a way of trapping money laundering? They know that it does happen and they know for certain that people will abuse it and that's why they have this rule that you must first make initial bets from your deposit before you can withdraw it. If you don't bet the money, you can't withdraw it, it's in their policy and you can't sue to them for that, you need to make atleast a wager first and that trap is enough to lose everything back to the casino.

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November 13, 2023, 05:11:28 PM
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So many countries do not permit gambling in their country for one reason or another, but the reasons range from potential addiction, which can make one commit a crime in other to make sure that he or she satisfies their gambling urge, gambling in many countries is not permitted because of religious ground, let's realistic any addictive behavior is not supposed to be permitted because of the danger that comes with them, let me use alcohol as a case study, do you know that so many crime has been committed because under the influence of alcohol, people has been killed, sporadic shooting has taken place in many countries because of excessive alcohol intake, even this gambling, some people are into gambling today because of alcohol.


The gambling had the chance of win and loss based on the gambling done by the gambler.If the gambler had made the game with their own strategy to tackle the algorithm of the gambling site.He had a lot of chance of winning in the gambling sites.If the gambler made the random bet in the gambling sites,So their will be more possibility of the loss in the gambling sites.When the people of certain country encounter the big loss in the gambling site.This enough for the government of that country to ban the gambling site in that country.But it also depend on the government of the nation is based on the people or own welfare.
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The pros and cons regarding gambling, whether this activity is prohibited or not, is still a matter of considerable debate.

And I am with people who debate things that should not be debated, such as between halal and haram, between legal and illegal gambling. All of this is absolute and cannot be contested, because the provisions and explanations are clear. And here I mention that gambling is not about halal and haram, not about legal and illegal, but this gambling is more about determining likes and dislikes. Because even though gambling is haram according to religious rules and haram according to state rules, it does not rule out the possibility for someone to gamble.

And if it is true that gambling is a prohibited activity, then illegal gambling will never flourish in a country that strongly opposes it.

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November 13, 2023, 05:58:03 PM
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So many countries do not permit gambling in their country for one reason or another, but the reasons range from potential addiction, which can make one commit a crime in other to make sure that he or she satisfies their gambling urge, gambling in many countries is not permitted because of religious ground, let's realistic any addictive behavior is not supposed to be permitted because of the danger that comes with them, let me use alcohol as a case study, do you know that so many crime has been committed because under the influence of alcohol, people has been killed, sporadic shooting has taken place in many countries because of excessive alcohol intake, even this gambling, some people are into gambling today because of alcohol.

they have their reasons why they ban gambling. but let's accept the fact that even if the govt have such stance, these gamblers will always find a way how to gamble, and so black market will always be tap by these gamblers. so for the govt to get something out of it, where they can't totally get rid of this business, better make them legal so they can tax these gambling-related businesses.
it has been with the humanity ever since, so i don't think such banning would eradicate this business at their own mandate.

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November 13, 2023, 06:17:22 PM
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In my opinion, gambling is similar to prostitution, even though it is prohibited, there are still transaction activities because there is supply and demand, including drugs.
And gambling has been around for a long time and since our ancestors existed, so in my opinion, whatever the ban and no matter how harsh the ban, gambling will still exist and they will continue to do it secretly.
Gambling is prohibited in almost all countries but not all laws in all countries are the same, especially in Muslim countries, but there are still people who gamble and it seems that gambling will not disappear completely in every country. Even though there is a ban, they can still do it in any way.

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November 13, 2023, 06:57:39 PM
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 I don't know how money can be laundered through gambling. Well the stolen money can be deposited in a gambling account and they can be use to gamble and will be withdrawing little by little from there. I think this has been discussed somewhere in the gambling board today and different opinions came out. Everybody will see it from different angles. Since the society has taken gambling as bad activity they will add it in any thing that is not good that is how I see it. If not gambling is not a bad thing but just for fun.
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November 13, 2023, 08:23:29 PM
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I don't know how money can be laundered through gambling. Well the stolen money can be deposited in a gambling account and they can be use to gamble and will be withdrawing little by little from there. I think this has been discussed somewhere in the gambling board today and different opinions came out. Everybody will see it from different angles. Since the society has taken gambling as bad activity they will add it in any thing that is not good that is how I see it. If not gambling is not a bad thing but just for fun.
The owners of the casinos themselves are the ones that have the easiest time trying to do this as they can literally inflate the numbers of their profits and launder the money they got from other sources this way, however it could be possible for gamblers to do this as well, since they could pretend their money come from regular gambling by inflating their profits as well, after all in most physical casinos cash is still the preferred method of payment and the records of each transaction may not be as detailed as what you could get with an online transaction.

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