BC.Game - can't withdraw 7.97 BTC

[BC.Game Support]

So they claim I played a game which had RTP above 100%, yet they also admit I lost money playing it. That's why they decided to void all my bets and refund my deposits.

In the interest of fairness and transparency, I ask of them to comment in detail the alleged exploit in the rules. Considering they now claim the game is "fixed" there is no security reason why they wouldn't be able to comment.

Please explain to the community why you confiscated over 3btc from my account. Thanks.

The game itself did not have over 100% RTP, but rather when your game-play combined with the prizes received from the daily tournament and the bonuses allowed you to wager safely to receive over 100% RTP.


We have the right to revoke bonuses when a user is taking advantage of them to profit off our website without any loss factor (as clearly mentioned in our ToS). You've admitted by yourself that you've lost over 5 BTC from playing blackjack but profited 8.5 BTC solely off bonuses.

If we were to really void all your bonuses, you would've received only 2.1 BTC back from your initial deposit, as you've already lost 5 BTC. But out of good faith, we decided to refund your entire deposit's worth of BTC. No other website would do such a thing.

You've first agreed to a deal for $124,000, settled the case, and then complained about the price difference once the deal was settled. We felt your request was genuine and fair, and we honored you with additional $46,000 as well. But you will not be receiving any profit you've made by abusing our bonus system. This is an unreasonable request.

[icopress]

In the interest of fairness and transparency, I ask of them to comment in detail the alleged exploit in the rules. Considering they now claim the game is "fixed" there is no security reason why they wouldn't be able to comment.

Please explain to the community why you confiscated over 3btc from my account. Thanks.

I just sent BC.Game a PM and advised against answering this question for two reasons.

1. Disclosure of this information may endanger other gambling platforms.
2. I see that you have reached an agreement (and an additional agreement to compensate for the difference due to the price jump).

Edit: I've decided to accept their offer to refund my deposits, but I expect that to be done in BTC.

Seeing they're committed to work on their reputation here, I'd like to use the opportunity [...]

Yes, BC resolved all open cases in a short time, but the problem was that BC did not provide technical support on the forum until recently and they are not familiar with all the intricacies of forum reputational aspects. But they have everything in front of them... Therefore, I would advise you to discard this thought if you continue to want to be taken seriously.

So this case is closed.

[Russtie Beerkan]

Burden of proof lies with the accuser.
If BC accuse OP of an exploit, they should prove it.

[holydarkness]

I'd like to confirm that BC.Game have indeed paid me an additional 46k. It's nice to see they're alive and kicking, they might not be going under after all.

Seeing they're committed to work on their reputation here, I'd like to use the opportunity and ask them to comment on the initial confiscation of my funds on the basis of faulty BJ play. To remind everyone, BC.Game's claim is the following:

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So they claim I played a game which had RTP above 100%, yet they also admit I lost money playing it. That's why they decided to void all my bets and refund my deposits.

In the interest of fairness and transparency, I ask of them to comment in detail the alleged exploit in the rules. Considering they now claim the game is "fixed" there is no security reason why they wouldn't be able to comment.

Please explain to the community why you confiscated over 3btc from my account. Thanks.

I am moving your post from other thread here to give more context:

I'd like to remind everyone that they confiscated my funds as they felt I should've lost more money gambling. I do not consider my issue with them resolved. Details here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471569.msg63242609#msg63242609 .

Now, it looks like greed, is it not?

I gave your complaints another read and the case can actually be appropriately marked as closed within the first complaint, with USDT 124,637, this is the deal they offered and which you accepted. Granted, you ask for it to be in BTC, but they didn't actually and explicitly accept this term,



And further, you both seal the deal with them sending the agreed fund and you explicitly said, "yes, this is acceptable".



Correct me if I'm wrong, but this should mark the situation as resolved and you should've voided the right to ask for more. Yet they somehow provide more for you as a show of good gesture, to match your demand. And you seemingly see it as a weakness and try to exploit it by demanding an explanation for 3 btc and [once again] do not consider your issue as resolved.

Tell me I read this wrongly?

Burden of proof lies with the accuser.
If BC accuse OP of an exploit, they should prove it.

Read again, they made a deal and agree to settle. The burden of proof no longer applies.


BC.Game Support, I think you don't have to meet this demand. As provided above, the case should've been marked as closed due to OP's own acknowledgement.

[dplay]

I'd like to confirm that BC.Game have indeed paid me an additional 46k. It's nice to see they're alive and kicking, they might not be going under after all.

Seeing they're committed to work on their reputation here, I'd like to use the opportunity and ask them to comment on the initial confiscation of my funds on the basis of faulty BJ play. To remind everyone, BC.Game's claim is the following:

[image snip]

So they claim I played a game which had RTP above 100%, yet they also admit I lost money playing it. That's why they decided to void all my bets and refund my deposits.

In the interest of fairness and transparency, I ask of them to comment in detail the alleged exploit in the rules. Considering they now claim the game is "fixed" there is no security reason why they wouldn't be able to comment.

Please explain to the community why you confiscated over 3btc from my account. Thanks.

I am moving your post from other thread here to give more context:

I'd like to remind everyone that they confiscated my funds as they felt I should've lost more money gambling. I do not consider my issue with them resolved. Details here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471569.msg63242609#msg63242609 .

Now, it looks like greed, is it not?

I gave your complaints another read and the case can actually be appropriately marked as closed within the first complaint, with USDT 124,637, this is the deal they offered and which you accepted. Granted, you ask for it to be in BTC, but they didn't actually and explicitly accept this term,



And further, you both seal the deal with them sending the agreed fund and you explicitly said, "yes, this is acceptable".



Correct me if I'm wrong, but this should mark the situation as resolved and you should've voided the right to ask for more. Yet they somehow provide more for you as a show of good gesture, to match your demand. And you seemingly see it as a weakness and try to exploit it by demanding an explanation for 3 btc and [once again] do not consider your issue as resolved.

Tell me I read this wrongly?

Burden of proof lies with the accuser.
If BC accuse OP of an exploit, they should prove it.

Read again, they made a deal and agree to settle. The burden of proof no longer applies.


BC.Game Support, I think you don't have to meet this demand. As provided above, the case should've been marked as closed due to OP's own acknowledgement.

I've already explained that I've settled the AG complaint as I felt it prudent to get any money out as quickly as I can.

The fact remains they voided all my play as they felt I should've lost more than I did. They mention an exploit but refuse to prove it.

[holydarkness]

I've already explained that I've settled the AG complaint as I felt it prudent to get any money out as quickly as I can.

The fact remains they voided all my play as they felt I should've lost more than I did. They mention an exploit but refuse to prove it.

So this is how it goes according to your side: you had a situation with them, they offered a deal, you accepted the deal because you think they'll go bankrupt, and now that you know they're going to stay, you wanted to ask for more? Is it because, in your opinion, that's your right?

Unfortunately, the fact that remains here is you both made a deal, they fulfill their end of the deal, and you've made your acknowledgement that the deal is done. Keywords are deal and done. The whole presumption of guilt, presumption of innocence, burden of proof, and others were thrown out of the window when you both agreed to make a deal to an amount [and it's paid] because there is no more case. It's closed with the deal.

And the fact that you made a written statement that the deal is done, without them pressuring you [remember that the whole bankruptcy scenario was your pure assumption, they're not hinting or misleading you with anything] and that there's no other terms within that deal other than the agreement of certain amount, dis-entitle you to ask for more.

[dplay]

Yes, from a legal point of view I'm not entitled from any more funds. I also have no expectation they'll make me whole.

I'm writing here to remind people that they blocked my account and withheld my funds for almost 2 months alleging exploits and provided 0 proof. I'm writing this as I know people are reading the forum and to some of them this will be useful info.

I've made a compromise with a failing casino to get some of the funds now, instead of all of the funds probably never. That does not make them reputable.

[holydarkness]

Yes, from a legal point of view I'm not entitled from any more funds. I also have no expectation they'll make me whole.

I'm writing here to remind people that they blocked my account and withheld my funds for almost 2 months alleging exploits and provided 0 proof. I'm writing this as I know people are reading the forum and to some of them this will be useful info.

I've made a compromise with a failing casino to get some of the funds now, instead of all of the funds probably never. That does not make them reputable.

Well from ethic side, you're not entitled to any more funds either, you backed out of a deal. Honestly, I find it quite ironic how the table quickly turned. On an extreme degree, you can even be considered breaching a written agreement, given you're agree to a settlement, yet later you state that,

I'd like to remind everyone that they confiscated my funds as they felt I should've lost more money gambling. I do not consider my issue with them resolved. Details here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471569.msg63242609#msg63242609 .

[dplay]

Yes, from a legal point of view I'm not entitled from any more funds. I also have no expectation they'll make me whole.

I'm writing here to remind people that they blocked my account and withheld my funds for almost 2 months alleging exploits and provided 0 proof. I'm writing this as I know people are reading the forum and to some of them this will be useful info.

I've made a compromise with a failing casino to get some of the funds now, instead of all of the funds probably never. That does not make them reputable.

Well from ethic side, you're not entitled to any more funds either, you backed out of a deal. Honestly, I find it quite ironic how the table quickly turned. On an extreme degree, you can even be considered breaching a written agreement, given you're agree to a settlement, yet later you state that,

I'd like to remind everyone that they confiscated my funds as they felt I should've lost more money gambling. I do not consider my issue with them resolved. Details here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471569.msg63242609#msg63242609 .

I've made it a point to emphasize several times that I've taken the deal out of practical concerns for my funds, not because I thought the deal was fair. They had the upper hand of holding my funds hostage and barely communicating for over a month. In retrospect I still think that was a smart decision.

I'd also like to thank you personally for actively replying to the thread and keeping it relevant, even tho you disagree with me. Because of that it will get more views and more people will be exposed to the info provided here, hopefully some of them will find it useful when deciding whether to deposit their hard mined coins to bc.game.

[Chandu141]

I am in same situation 😞

Just Posted in Askgamblers hoping for resolution.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I am in same situation 😞

Just Posted in Askgamblers hoping for resolution.

You bumped the topic and I thought it's a new case but after posting my response I realized it's an old case. LOL.
Anyway, you need to create a separate scam accusation to receive attention for your case.

[Chandu141]

I am in same situation 😞

Just Posted in Askgamblers hoping for resolution.

You bumped the topic and I thought it's a new case but after posting my response I realized it's an old case. LOL.
Anyway, you need to create a separate scam accusation to receive attention for your case.

yeah i just made new post! letting you allknow...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5517339.msg64715231#msg64715231