New way to keep your seed phrase secure.

[LesterD]

Google is not going to track me for my 0.002BTC. and it's not simple, a seed have 12 words I will translate 4 words in 3 different languages in different papers and keep them in different locations. Maybe 2 papers is good choice.

The link above is not about translating the seed phrase but it is about if you want your seed phrase to be in other languages according to BIP39.

I will advice you not to translate anything. The reason is because the word you are translating have synonyms and very possible there could be a mistake in the future in a way you may not be able to translate the language back to the original 12 to 24 words.

And that is true, translator works online which is another reason it should not be used.

If we go by your method then it is even more better if we just encrypt the words using other algorithm and then keep those encrypted words at different places.

Encrypting the seed phrase is another good advice.

That's a very good point about the synonyms. A single word can have multiple synonyms and just imagine how awfully wrong we can be with 12 - 24 words.
So I guess it's way better to encrypt it after all. We just have to decide an encryption method and then store the encrypted seed on a secure location having multiple backups.
Just the owner would know which encryption method he had used.

In other words, OP's just trying to make it hard for himself to recover his seed phrase. The fact that there are multiple synonyms when you translate it back to the original word has the possibility of being unable to get back the exact original word.

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[headingnorth]

These are my security tips:

1. Rearrange two of the words of your seed phrase in the wrong order, so that only you know how to put them back in the correct order.

You could rearrange more than two words, but then you risk your memory failing you. So best to keep it simple and easy to remember with just two words.

For me I think scrambling two words out of order is good enough. The correct order of the two words is then stored only in your head and never written anywhere.

If someone finds my seed phrase it would be useless to them because two of the words are out of order, but only I know which ones.



2. Use a wallet that supports passphrases (or 25th word) to allow you to set up a decoy and hidden wallet.

The passphrase is also never written anywhere and stored only in your head. The other option is to store the passphrase in a different location then your seedphrase.

[KiaKia]

You are simply trying to make things more complicated for yourself mate, you could end up doing everything wrong and lost access to your coins, it's better to just buy a hardware wallet or learn to keep your recovery seed safe.

I have someone who have been using Electrum wallet since 2017 and he never lost any coins till this day, it depends on how you keep your private keys and recovery seeds save from hackers and scammers, my advice is to concentrate on improving your security instead of trying to make things more complicated.

[Y3shot]

Idea:
Hello, I am sharing a new idea for keeping your crypto seed phrase safe. You can make your seed phrase more secure by translating it into different languages. For more security use a translator and translate in two or three languages and split them to different papers for more security.

So this basically mean you will enter your seed phrase into the translator which will definitely make it go online, so it is bad idea to begin with. Also trying too many ways to safeguard your seed phrase like using colors or just this translation will cause more problem than solve. During translation from different languages there some words that mean two or more meanings which when you try bringing them back to the original word will cause a change.
Stick to the words of BIP 39 and use passphrase to safeguard it more, if the seed gets exposed your passphrase acts as a second layer

Trying different methods to store seed phrase can end up putting one to confusion, this method op is talking about is not a good one for me. It is better seed phrase are store the way it is written to avoid complications,  because changing it to another language for a longtime , when it is needed it can make people to be confused. When talking about seed phrase safety people should learn how to be discipline and careful in keeping things. If seed phrase should be stored properly in the way it is written it will be very difficult for another person to come across it if it is place in the proper place.

[fuguebtc]

Question:
So my question is can we generate seed phrases in a different languages with wallet software? Is there any wallet with this feature?

So far, we have had many methods of storing bitcoins and it has worked well. I think people are satisfied with those methods, people will not risk trying any new methods proposed. So I think you don't need to share or introduce it to everyone because in my opinion, many methods have been shared by many people and most of them criticize more than support them. Each method has advantages and disadvantages, you just need to do it the way you think is safest for you, you no need to share your method because everyone will have their own thoughts.

[UchihaSarada]

So far, we have had many methods of storing bitcoins and it has worked well. I think people are satisfied with those methods, people will not risk trying any new methods proposed. So I think you don't need to share or introduce it to everyone because in my opinion, many methods have been shared by many people and most of them criticize more than support them.

More complicated does not mean higher security and conveniece for recovery process. With recovery, you need a process to do it correctly, smoothly and comfortably. Do you need a complicated recovery process?

I don't and I believe you and many people do not need it.

Most important for your money, if you lose direction in a middle of complicated process and fail with recovery, you lose your bitcoin.

Each method has advantages and disadvantages, you just need to do it the way you think is safest for you, you no need to share your method because everyone will have their own thoughts.

For your practice, you need time and practice make perfect. If you already master a wallet, a backup and recovery method that is proven as safely by experts and many people apply it, you don't have to try new things.

New things mean risk and you should never take risk with your money.

[satscraper]

Idea:
Hello, I am sharing a new idea for keeping your crypto seed phrase safe. You can make your seed phrase more secure by translating it into different languages. For more security use a translator and translate in two or three languages and split them to different papers for more security.

False sense of security, IMHO.

 Better think about reliable places to hide your seed phrase, than about reinventing the wheel.

You don't need to keep the whole length of words from seed phrase. First four letters are  enough to restore the word. Most available wallets do it automatically. If some wallet will  refuse to restore automatically  the relevant  SEED word  you can always do it manually via checking with the BIP39-words-list.  

I tried to find wallets which may allow multi language seed phrases but not found one, everything was for wallet software translated into different languages.

Question:
So my question is can we generate seed phrases in a different languages with wallet software? Is there any wallet with this feature?

I didn't come across such wallets

[lovesmayfamilis]

OP, until you eventually end up hiding it even from yourself; you won't understand the logic of always keeping it simple. At one time, when I allowed myself to be swept by the paranoia of wallet security, I almost got locked out of a certain wallet. I swept certain words off their positions by interchanging them. I think I took first three words and replaced them with the last three sets but then forgot which came first later. Though it was just a bit of coins in that wallet but I sweated when I couldn't get in back. By stroke of luck I was able to regain the words after several attempts. This day, I just write them out in the simple form. What's gonna be it's gonna be. If you seek wallet security like it's a vault in a central bank, remember that there could arise a situation that may likely alter your access to the wallet outside your control. Ill health and dementia, death and war are all there, just to mention but four.

Wise words again—how simple it is. Why reinvent the wheel when it has already been invented? Everything that the OP fantasized about will only add to his headache; I doubt that he has millions stored, which are hunted by both hackers on the Internet and robbers offline. There is an expression that if you want to hide a thing well, put it in a visible place. You don’t have to follow the instructions in detail, but let there be a mind without paranoid tendencies. If the OP can't save the seed phrase in the usual way, expecting a hack, then he won't be able to save it even if he translates it into numerous languages.

[HONDACD125]

So far, we have had many methods of storing bitcoins and it has worked well. I think people are satisfied with those methods, people will not risk trying any new methods proposed. So I think you don't need to share or introduce it to everyone because in my opinion, many methods have been shared by many people and most of them criticize more than support them. Each method has advantages and disadvantages, you just need to do it the way you think is safest for you, you no need to share your method because everyone will have their own thoughts.

If we have many ways to secure Bitcoin, then someone has told us these ways too. All these methods have not been told to us together, but in the same way, one by one, they entered the mind of every person and they were told to other people, from which all people continued to benefit. I think he just presented his idea. Here everyone has the right to share any new and better ideas with others.

So that we can benefit the people on this plate form along with our benefit. We don't necessarily follow his idea of crypto currency security, but we can appreciate his effort. I think the idea is great, if we write our seed in a language that people around us don't understand, it's also a good way for security. Of course, everyone has their own thoughts, but we must share our thoughts with others.

[Mpamaegbu]

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I doubt that he has millions stored, which are hunted by both hackers on the Internet and robbers offline.

That's even the sad reality. Most of these people getting paranoid about wallet security are not likely to have up to $100 worth in Bitcoin, yet they get conscious of security. I ain't saying they shouldn't. It's just that they should tone it down a bit.

There is an expression that if you want to hide a thing well, put it in a visible place. You don’t have to follow the instructions in detail, but let there be a mind without paranoid tendencies.

You didn't lie on this. Imagine keeping sheets where passphrases and other seemingly meaningless scribbled words are jotted down in the kitchen or tucked somewhere in a store and not in briefcases, burglars won't even bother to look in there. Even if they do, they won't think anything of it and will miss it.

[abel1337]

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I doubt that he has millions stored, which are hunted by both hackers on the Internet and robbers offline.

That's even the sad reality. Most of these people getting paranoid about wallet security are not likely to have up to $100 worth in Bitcoin, yet they get conscious of security. I ain't saying they shouldn't. It's just that they should tone it down a bit.

I think it's better to be that way rather than least prioritizing the wallet security. They aren't targeted by the hackers but there are some random malwares out there that are set-up by those small fish hackers which target are those newbies or those who has weak security. My friend was hacked because of a malware and the funds where not that big but the hacker didn't spare him. As long as there are something that a hacker can get to you, they will get it. I believe that it's a good thing to make a habit on checking your own security.

[bbigtart]

Idea:
Hello, I am sharing a new idea for keeping your crypto seed phrase safe. You can make your seed phrase more secure by translating it into different languages. For more security use a translator and translate in two or three languages and split them to different papers for more security.

I tried to find wallets which may allow multi language seed phrases but not found one, everything was for wallet software translated into different languages.

You will get different responses from each user. Because this idea can be good or not, depending on how you really remember it.

But for me this would be very difficult, firstly I don't really understand English, I just rely on Google Translate. The problem is that Google Translation sometimes produces different meanings, which makes me dizzy. If there is something easier, why look for something complicated when in the end I will get a headache myself. However, if you think this idea is safer, that's no problem, you can use it. The important thing is that you are responsible for your own seed phrase.

[Mpamaegbu]

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I think it's better to be that way rather than least prioritizing the wallet security. They aren't targeted by the hackers but there are some random malwares out there that are set-up by those small fish hackers which target are those newbies or those who has weak security. My friend was hacked because of a malware and the funds where not that big but the hacker didn't spare him.

This is why people are advised against opening random links or using their main wallets for airdrops. Malware don't just run on their own if they aren't activated through clicking or am I wrong on this? If people can set up their wallets offline and not go online on it, they should also be fine on that and away from malware.

[virasog]

Idea:
Hello, I am sharing a new idea for keeping your crypto seed phrase safe. You can make your seed phrase more secure by translating it into different languages. For more security use a translator and translate in two or three languages and split them to different papers for more security.

I tried to find wallets which may allow multi language seed phrases but not found one, everything was for wallet software translated into different languages.

Question:
So my question is can we generate seed phrases in a different languages with wallet software? Is there any wallet with this feature?

As of now, I do not know any wallet that generates seed phrases in any other language, other than English. The only way to do this is to convert your seed phrases manually in your native language but there are many serious drawbacks to this and hence it is not a recommended idea.

Drawbacks of this Idea

1- If you online one tool to translate you are exposing your seed phrases to the internet and anyone looking at the logs, can easily identify that is the seed phrases that were sent for translation.

2- There may be many different words (synonyms) for a single word and therefore it will not be easy to translate the word back to the original English word making it harder to recover the seed for the owner himself.

[Cookdata]

Idea:
Hello, I am sharing a new idea for keeping your crypto seed phrase safe. You can make your seed phrase more secure by translating it into different languages. For more security use a translator and translate in two or three languages and split them to different papers for more security.

I tried to find wallets which may allow multi language seed phrases but not found one, everything was for wallet software translated into different languages.

Question:
So my question is can we generate seed phrases in a different languages with wallet software? Is there any wallet with this feature?

Have you asked yourself "what if translator had update in the future and when you try to translate from your local language to English, it gives you another meaning." You will lose everything you have in your wallet and that's when you will know that you are in deep shit.

A seed phrase are words that were carefully picked from 2048 words for BIP 39 word list]

Have you asked yourself "what if translator had update in the future and when you try to translate from your local language to English, it gives you another meaning." You will lose everything you have in your wallet and that's when you will know that you are in deep shit.

A seed phrase are words that were carefully picked from 2048 words for BIP 39 word list, any attempt to manipulate or played with these words, it will be difficult for you to have access to your wallet. In addition, it's not even advisable to add your own words to it because doing that, you are not creating a bip39 standard wallet, if you want to use this in another wallet that only recognizes bip39 words, it will not work.

Don't write your seed phrase on a pieces of paper, because it can get damage easily, they can catch fire when expose to fire and worn out if exposed to water. Better use a metallic surface to inscribe your seed phrase and it should be more than 2 so that you can share it in different locations. In the future, you can easily locate one of these backup seed phrase and get easy access to your coins.

[Wiwo]

Idea:
Hello, I am sharing a new idea for keeping your crypto seed phrase safe. You can make your seed phrase more secure by translating it into different languages. For more security use a translator and translate in two or three languages and split them to different papers for more security.

I tried to find wallets which may allow multi language seed phrases but not find one, everything was for wallet software translated into different languages.

You will get different responses from each user. Because this idea can be good or not, depending on how you really remember it.

This will still hit the bottom line and bounce up more because by translating your seed phrase into 3 different languages,  it makes sense only if those languages are not word-translated. After all, I don't see any sense in trying to hide a seed phrase from me by using another language to translate them after all, I can easily know what those words stand for by simply googling the Internet.

I think we are not at it yet but we may be very close to achieving the best secure approach to storing our seed phrase and how best to keep them always from any third-party access.

[Stalker22]

1. Rearrange two of the words of your seed phrase in the wrong order, so that only you know how to put them back in the correct order.
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If someone finds my seed phrase it would be useless to them because two of the words are out of order, but only I know which ones.

This is a very bad suggestion and wouldnt recommend it to anyone. You are just asking for trouble if you try to be tricky with your wallet's seed phrase.  I get why you might think shuffling around a couple words could be a clever security measure, but it really only makes things harder on yourself.  When you actually need to access your wallet, you might find yourself locked out!

Seed phrases have checks built into them to catch mixed up words.  So if you swap some stuff around, wallet software will know something is not right. It wont fool anyone and  with computers these days, unscrambling a few wrong words could take just seconds. 

2. Use a wallet that supports passphrases (or 25th word) to allow you to set up a decoy and hidden wallet.

The passphrase is also never written anywhere and stored only in your head. The other option is to store the passphrase in a different location then your seedphrase.

That second option is way better for keeping your backup phrase secure.  It makes total sense why that has become the recommended method.  But, our memory can be pretty unreliable, so it is smart not to depend on just memorizing your passphrase.

[Magic-Money]

These idea is not too good by translating the phase code to difference language that is not originated from that can cause more harm in the near future while using online translation that normally make mistake of mis interpretation of what have been writing down for a long time ago. Therefore is better used the language you speak and understand for saving your seed phrase code for better in the future.

[2Pizza410000BTC]

Idea:
Hello, I am sharing a new idea for keeping your crypto seed phrase safe. You can make your seed phrase more secure by translating it into different languages. For more security use a translator and translate in two or three languages and split them to different papers for more security.

I tried to find wallets which may allow multi language seed phrases but not found one, everything was for wallet software translated into different languages.

Question:
So my question is can we generate seed phrases in a different languages with wallet software? Is there any wallet with this feature?

OP I don't think your suggestion is reasonable at all. If we collect our seed phrase according to your advice then we can face danger at any moment. If we leave the seed phrase translated, later this seed phrase will show error and the wallet will not be accessed. This is because during translation some changes will happen to your seed phrase as a result of these changes we will not be able to access our wallet. So I will never accept your advice. There are many good ways to collect seed phrases for wallets we will follow those methods and keep our seed phrases very safe.

[headingnorth]

1. Rearrange two of the words of your seed phrase in the wrong order, so that only you know how to put them back in the correct order.
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If someone finds my seed phrase it would be useless to them because two of the words are out of order, but only I know which ones.

This is a very bad suggestion and wouldnt recommend it to anyone. You are just asking for trouble if you try to be tricky with your wallet's seed phrase.  I get why you might think shuffling around a couple words could be a clever security measure, but it really only makes things harder on yourself.  When you actually need to access your wallet, you might find yourself locked out!

Seed phrases have checks built into them to catch mixed up words.  So if you swap some stuff around, wallet software will know something is not right. It wont fool anyone and  with computers these days, unscrambling a few wrong words could take just seconds.  

I have no idea what you are talking about.

2. Use a wallet that supports passphrases (or 25th word) to allow you to set up a decoy and hidden wallet.

The passphrase is also never written anywhere and stored only in your head. The other option is to store the passphrase in a different location then your seedphrase.

That second option is way better for keeping your backup phrase secure.  It makes total sense why that has become the recommended method.  
But, our memory can be pretty unreliable, so it is smart not to depend on just memorizing your passphrase.

Like you said, your memory is unreliable so if you were to hide your passphrase in a physical location (instead of memorizing it in your head)  then you could forget where you hid the passphrase which is the same thing. Both methods (hiding it somewhere in physical location or keeping it only in your head) rely on your memory.

But if your memory is so bad that you cannot commit to memory one or two words then you should not be messing around with self-custody at all. Stick to fiat money and the traditional banking system.