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November 02, 2023, 05:03:30 AM
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Skepticism is the father of curiosity so in this respect, I would like to ask a simple question about the possibilities of one getting ban through posting of images here in the forum, because I know this community doesn't joke around with strict policy of countering people that do copy pasting.

I have serious taught on this because I tried even using AI to help write some post of mine and I won't deny the fact but a good mate here in the forum corrected me and sent me a PM to stop if not I will be tagged so in that respect I stop using the AI and I have tried my possible best to work on my contribution and involvement here when it's comes to topic am familiar and also it isn't all easy when English is not first language although my country is a English speaking country but the diversity in language is much and my native language comes as my first priority.

In respect of posting of images, although I haven't seen any body get banned although I don't know if it's because I have search hard enough but I wouldn't want to be corrected by someone again through PM so I decided to come public on this one. So please the community should clear if I can banned or tagged from copying someone image in creating my topic without adding a reference link.

And please don't mind the English error as am trying to improve in my writing thank you all.

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November 02, 2023, 05:05:49 AM
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Below is the answer by mprep (Global Moderator).

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33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e] - Does this rule apply to images?
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AFAIK no, it doesn't apply to images.
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Feel free.

You can't get banned because of posting someone else image, but for getting tagged by DTs it's still possible depends on the case.

This case was the example where someone claimed if those artworks were created by him, but he actually stole someone else artworks.

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November 02, 2023, 05:14:57 AM
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No, you won't get banned for plagiarized images.

It is very difficult to determine the original source of an image and anyone posting an image usually do not pass it off as their own except they created it.
It's too much stress for the mods to engage i

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November 02, 2023, 05:19:57 AM
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Getting banned here in the forum because of image plagiarism isn't possible I think, but you can still be charge outside the forum for copyright of image from the original image owner. Anything aside from that I think isn't possible although I still like to think that it still depends on the severity of the image copied and the extent to which it's used, because some DT member can actually tag you depending on their own view on the severity of the issue but I doubt anyone has been tag ever before for copying someone image.

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November 02, 2023, 05:34:17 AM
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So please the community should clear if I can banned or tagged from copying someone image in creating my topic without adding a reference link.
I haven't seen anyone getting banned for posting images of others here on the forum. Typically, there have only been situations in art contests where people claim artwork that isn't theirs, resulting in disqualification. While it's not a ban, it's still a form of plagiarism because if you didn't create the image or content yourself, you should give credit to the original creator or reference. I usually prefer adding a link below my images to show where I found them. It puts my mind at ease of not being a plagariser.

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November 02, 2023, 06:15:42 AM
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Images are mostly used to provide more clarity on a subject or a discussion; it one can create an image on their own.
Take market chat, for example. People do screenshot them to demonstrate the market movement, and they are posting them here without including the source link, which is fine provided they did not give fake or irrelevant information about it.

So please the community should clear if I can banned or tagged from copying someone's image in creating my topic without adding a reference link.
No!
But don't lie to be the original creator of the image, as it will trigger further investigation.

I remember a case of a forum member who posted an image of something that has happened in the past, and he is referring to his present condition that he is the original source of the picture, which was a lie because some forum members do further research and bring out the source of the image. Therefore, I will advise you to include the image source link.

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November 02, 2023, 06:19:38 AM
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Skepticism is the father of curiosity so in this respect, I would like to ask a simple question about the possibilities of one getting ban through posting of images here in the forum, because I know this community doesn't joke around with strict policy of countering people that do copy pasting.
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In respect of posting of images, although I haven't seen any body get banned although I don't know if it's because I have search hard enough but I wouldn't want to be corrected by someone again through PM so I decided to come public on this one. So please the community should clear if I can banned or tagged from copying someone image in creating my topic without adding a reference link.


Yes, you can be banned if it's proven that you have plagiarized.

You might wonder how this can be proven. In simple terms, if you copy an image from within bitcointalk, where the original creator is known, like one from the "10th-anniversary art contest," and you post it here somewhere, claiming it to be your own without referencing the original poster, it's a clear-cut case of plagiarism, and I can guarantee it will result in a ban.

However, if you've copied an image from the internet, Reddit, Twitter, or other sources, you won't be banned, but it would be unethical to post it and claim it as your own without proper attribution. In this case, you won't receive a ban, but you might receive a tag from someone.

In summary, make an effort to provide a link to the original author, especially when dealing with infographics, price graphs, or research (memes might be acceptable to some extent). Remember that someone has invested their time and effort into creating these works, and taking their work without giving credit is unfair.

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November 02, 2023, 06:47:57 AM
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You can't get banned because of posting someone else image, but for getting tagged by DTs it's still possible depends on the case.

This case was the example where someone claimed if those artworks were created by him, but he actually stole someone else artworks.
The reason for this may be that the images are not hosted on the forum, and if you have stolen an image from somewhere, you will inevitably host it in an image hosting service, which will inevitably delete it whenever the intellectual property rights are available.

It is true that you will not be banned, but you may get negative trust.

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November 02, 2023, 06:56:30 AM
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You might wonder how this can be proven. In simple terms, if you copy an image from within bitcointalk, where the original creator is known, like one from the "10th-anniversary art contest," and you post it here somewhere, claiming it to be your own without referencing the original poster, it's a clear-cut case of plagiarism, and I can guarantee it will result in a ban.
Read @mprep's reply above, since he's a global moderator who has hammer to ban any user, I trust his words in this case. If you still stand with your opinions, I dare to challenge you to find which user get banned due to committing plagiarism about user's image.

Therefore, I will advise you to include the image source link.
As long as you're not claiming the image is created by yours, you will not get any punishment.

Posting an image without source is like a grey area, similar to took someone else words without providing the original source, but you're mention the words are come from someone or you're use quotation mark.

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You only get banned if the image is NSFW. All other images are fine, including AI generated ones. And also, there is no such thing as a "plagiarized image" unless it is stolen from the stock image seller's website without paying (and a license to reproduce it on other sites), in which case, don't do that.

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November 02, 2023, 09:53:27 AM
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So please the community should clear if I can banned or tagged from copying someone image in creating my topic without adding a reference link.

What do you see to the meaning of plagiarism, copying someone's else's work and claiming it to be from your own, be it images or articles, what does adding a reference link do to many of you that you so finds it a very difficult task to do, the only situation i may see this as needless is when the image content already have the source link or reference name on the image.

That will clearly shows that so and so company or organization published this because their logo, name or stamp is appearing on it, else, it is very important to also include link to any image you've got online except you're the creator to that image, this is not about being banned alone, but doing the right thing the professional way.

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It's a welcome development you are willing to change and comply with the rules of the forum and I'm sure it would go a long way in helping you and keep you out of the big whip.

You might also use the following links to understand the forum better depending on your reason here:

1. Main rules/guides of the forum (Unofficial): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0
2. Ranking up: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0 & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.msg1861412#msg1861412
3. Merit Statistics: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats
4. Specifically for newbies: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0

Now about your concern, note that your rank might still limit you to image posting visibility if that is your current curiosity, be assured that it will be fixed as you rank up. And about coping images from external sources, it's very allowed, nonetheless, it would be gentle and polite enough to share the sources for credits.

This is not limited to images alone but also some excerpts from external sources.


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You really won't get banned for posting someone else's images as those images aren't directly hosted on this forum and you're only embedding the links of those images which you have hosted on another website. But, I still think that it's morally and ethically not right to post someone else's images as a form of contribution to this forum.

Although, a proper reference link is always a good thing but still some members don't like such posts and you may get tagged if you make low quality posts that are only images. I remember a member who added neutral trust feedback on many users because he thought that those members weren't contributing anything good to the forum and were spamming.

A member also disliked the users who used to post Twitter now X based image posts on WO thread, and after that many users have stopped posting Twitter images on WO thread. If someone don't bans your account but still it deteriorates your reputation then it's better to avoid such things even if those can allow you to get some merits.

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Yes, you can be banned if it's proven that you have plagiarized.
Nope, you won't get banned on bitcointalk for image plagiarism even if its proven that you took image from someone else and presented it as your own.

For example of something like that, take a look at this case from few years ago when I exposed someone who took someone else's image and explicitly presented it as his own in order to fish some merit. Even though it was proved that it wasn't his image (I contacetd the original creator who confirmed me that) and he even admitted plagiarism, mods did nothing and all he got were few tags.

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Yes, you can be banned if it's proven that you have plagiarized.
Nope, you won't get banned on bitcointalk for image plagiarism even if its proven that you took image from someone else and presented it as your own.

For example of something like that, take a look at this case from few years ago when I exposed someone who took someone else's image and explicitly presented it as his own in order to fish some merit. Even though it was proved that it wasn't his image (I contacetd the original creator who confirmed me that) and he even admitted plagiarism, mods did nothing and all he got were few tags.

Nope, I’m afraid this isn’t sufficient evidence. Since this incident occurred outside of Bitcointalk, it’s challenging to confirm the identity of the person on the other end. Furthermore, the image was not initially posted on Bitcointalk.

What I’m trying to convey is that if the original image originated from Bitcointalk and someone shared that image here on Burocintalk, and then another individual copied and reposted it on Bitcointalk, that would indeed constitute clear-cut plagiarism.

I don’t understand why moderators won’t consider it plagiarism?

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Nope, I’m afraid this isn’t sufficient evidence. Since this incident occurred outside of Bitcointalk, it’s challenging to confirm the identity of the person on the other end. Furthermore, the image was not initially posted on Bitcointalk.
If you checked the topic, you would see that member in question even admitted that he took someone else's image and presented it as his own. Also, it doesn't matter from where it was taken as if you copy text from outside of bitcointalk you will still get banned so this argument is not valid.

I am sorry to the Bicoin Community and to the Coaster89 from which I took the artwork and posted it on BitcoinTalk without thinking about the consequences. The reason I posted the artwork is because I was eager to earn Merit.



What I’m trying to convey is that if the original image originated from Bitcointalk and someone shared that image here on Burocintalk, and then another individual copied and reposted it on Bitcointalk, that would indeed constitute clear-cut plagiarism.
Even if someone did that, it still won't get banned. Here is the direct answer from mprep, plagiarism rule doesn't apply to images, no matter the source.


33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e] - Does this rule apply to images?
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AFAIK no, it doesn't apply to images.
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I don’t understand why moderators won’t consider it plagiarism?
I agree, it dooesn't make sense and I don't think that we ever got an explanation for that exception.

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I think I had this same perception of the possibility of a user being ban for image plagiarism and I also created a thread on this issue where I was clear on this notion by senior ranking members and also was referred to link that involve a serious discussion and argument between two members here in the forum that totally clear the air to this thought of mine .

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Below is the answer by mprep (Global Moderator).

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33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e] - Does this rule apply to images?
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AFAIK no, it doesn't apply to images.
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Thank you, can I quote you?
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Feel free.

You can't get banned because of posting someone else image, but for getting tagged by DTs it's still possible depends on the case.

This case was the example where someone claimed if those artworks were created by him, but he actually stole someone else artworks.
Thanks for the link and all the answer provided, its been really good as I have cleared my curiosity towards this thought of mine and will try my best to improve here both in my communication and typing skill to avoid been tag or ban because the fear is always there when you get to see the amount users that are being ban everyday on the plagiarism thread by Loyce V.

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With all these, despite it's not against the rule, it still looks being unprofessional by posting image without a reference link, now you have the probability of getting tagged for doing so base on the content, also you are not giving people the means to the full details on the message you're trying to convey on the image, just as the use of AI is not against the rule, but when you try one, then you get tagged, posting an image and not inserting the link when necessary is just a display of lackadaisical attitude and not making a quality post enough with such.

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the fear is always there when you get to see the amount users that are being ban everyday on the plagiarism thread by Loyce V.
When I was a Newbie (and Jr. Member, and Member, and Full Member, .......), I wasn't concerned about bans. Those are very easy to avoid: don't break the rules.
Negative feedback on the other hand always felt like a risk, it was handed out like candy for the smallest mistakes or even "wrong" interpretations.

I tried even using AI
To quote Sarah Connor: "I hate machines!". I don't want to interact with toasters on a forum, I want to interact with humans.

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