Conclusion after losing millions! that games are rigged.

[0t3p0t]

Just accept the fact that you are part of the 9,999 in 1:10,000 luck odds ratio. I think taking time to relax betting is still working and so the system will reset and might get a random result. If you are playing straight in a day I think that the system will detect the pattern. I am not an expert but this happened to me once with online casino where I suffer consecutive loss on a one hour gambling. It might be a coincidence but that is what I think of that pattern.

[Hirose UK]

You’re right. When you’re on a losing streak, that’s when the possibility of the casino being rigged enters your head. But while winning, you’ll probably be thinking of how smart and sharp you are to predict games and win. People love to claim responsibility whenever they’re having a positive outcome and claim fraud and be in total denial whenever they’re starting to lose. I’m moved to say it’s human nature as a lot of people are guilty of this but it’s not. Not everyone claims the system is rigged whenever they’re not having the outcome they wanted. You surely have got to have real evidence of your accusations.

It's usual with people to wan to behave in such manner where they tend to think that the casino is been manipulated because some how they are on a loosing streaks but then it's important we learn to keep an open mind to the fact that it's just luck playing out.

With gambling while you loose, some one else is winning so it's almost a balanced situation and most of the time it turns out you may not be having a Lucky day and doesn't mean it's been manipulated because as you loose someone is Winning but if it were manipulated, then everyone will be loosing,. But then no doubts I think sometimes there could be slight adjustments with the casinos which may look like manipulatios.

The thoughts and behavior in blaming the casino for manipulation because of the big losses they suffered are the thoughts or assumptions of people who cannot accept every loss.
Things like this happen very often, some even say everywhere that they were cheated by the casino, even though they lost money not because of fraud or embezzlement but because they lost in game or bet.
In gambling, losing is something that is bound to happen and every gambler must be able to accept it and even really let go of losing money when deciding to start gambling.

Well, I agree with this that when gambling we lose there are other people who are lucky and win, no one can always win guaranteedly from gambling and there is no way to prove that the casino is unfair or manipulates the game.
It is important to understand that every casino game has random way of working and we cannot know it, so it will be very difficult to prove that there is manipulation or cheating.

As wise gambler, we must always think that winning is only when we are lucky and gambling will always result in defeat.
When there is awareness like this, will never state that there is manipulation.

[Latviand]

It's not rigged but more like it favors the house more often, rigged means there's no chances that you will be winning so I don't exactly think online betting or gambling is exactly rigged. If you really don't trust the website that you're playing on then don't play there anymore, that's the only solution. You can always find other gambling websites that's more trustworthy when it comes to their games so there's really no excuses why you keep staying on that casino or betting site if you feel like you're being cheated on your bets or games. I also would like to add that there's also organizations that ensures fair gaming so I don't know how they will be able to rig games.

This link can be helpful in understanding that there's organization that's ensuring there's fair games in an online casino although this only has a Filipino jurisdiction so it might be not that helpful.

Code:

https://medium.com/@pesobetphilippines/online-casino-regulation-in-the-philippines-balancing-entertainment-and-responsibility

Here's some house edge samples online.

[aioc]

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

That's your experience it's not necessarily the experience of all gamblers and you cannot compare your experience with other gamblers, every gambler needs
 to face the house edge and it differs from one gambler to another, so if you think that you are always busted some gamblers are having a good run in winning.

The guy on the video knows how to verify his bet since he is a gambler he should have posted the results of the verifier, if you're not comfortable playing on one casino because you suspect it of rigging the game, you can always check the other casinos.

There are times that we are lucky in one casino and have bad experiences in other casinos you just pick the casinos where you have success but be sure it's a reputable one.

[alegotardo]

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

This is one of the advantages you can have when playing on a website compared to a physical casino.
When it comes to blockchain-based games, the most respected sites will always provide you with mechanisms to audit your bets and results yourself. If there is any fraud, it is "easily" detectable.
Unfortunately, most players don't do this conference, I don't do it myself.

Even though I believe that there are fraudulent sites, I believe that most of them are in fact fair to the players, the problem is that the probability in favor of the house ends up increasing the feeling that "something is wrong" and many players simply accuse the sites without have any evidence against them.

[Woodie]

This video that has our millionaire gambler saying games are rigged lacks merit in his reporting!!!

Why didn't he add some screenshots showing his seed never changes, if this was the case a refund would easily be initiated by the casino!

And he goes on to say he gambles 20 hours straight without hitting anything, this tells me he is either jumping from one game to another which is a bad strategy if we consider RTP which should pay you for playing for a while on that game... otherwise key information is missing in this vlog shared!!

Hope his not a hired gun trying to discredit some Casino out there...

[piebeyb]

There are times that we are lucky in one casino and have bad experiences in other casinos you just pick the casinos where you have success but be sure it's a reputable one.

It's difficult to find which casino makes us successful, even though we know that each casino is different and gives luck to its users, I think almost all casinos are the same, there is no coincidence that when playing at casino A I win and at casino B I lose, in my opinion it's just It's a coincidence and sometimes I also experience defeat at these two casinos, there is no such thing as success when playing gambling

In my opinion, success in gambling is success because you can control yourself when gambling and that does not mean success in winning large amounts of money, although we still have to know which casinos are safe for us to play in, namely those that definitely have a high reputation on this forum, at least so that we don't feel cheated and are certainly trusted on this forum.

[arimamib]

As wise gambler, we must always think that winning is only when we are lucky and gambling will always result in defeat.
When there is awareness like this, will never state that there is manipulation.

I hear the term "wise gambler" sounds so sarcastic, because I think wise people won't be a gambler. Gambling is inherently a game of chance, and the odds are always stacked against the player. There may be strategies that can help maximize the chances of winning, but these strategies cannot overcome the inherent randomness of gambling. Over the long term, most of gamblers will inevitably lose money, because the house always has an edge, meaning that the odds are always in their favor. There will be a winner when there some losers, no one can always be a winner. No matter how skilled or knowledgeable a gambler may be, they cannot consistently beat the odds and walk away with a profit.

I think wise gamblers are gamblers who deal with gambling as form of entertainment, and the only way to truly enjoy it is to accept that losing is part of the experience. If you gamble, do so responsibly and within your means, and never expect to make money from it.

[el kaka22]

It's such a weird feeling that people would think that provably fair stuff could be rigged, or even if not provably fair, casinos that makes millions of dollars would rig and have a risk of losing all their customers.

Think about it, you make 1 million dollars per year profit, would you give it all away for 10 million dollars today? I would not, that would not make sense, I could just sell my company and keep being rich, do another business, or just retire and be healthy. I can say that me personally? I would retire for 200k dollars, that would be more than enough for me to retire, and would be a decent amount.

These people are making more money in profit right now then they could ever spend, they do not "need" this much money, why would they take a risk and lose it all just to steal from some customers? That never made sense to me at all. I understand that we are going to end up with something that would be a little bit of a big change if that were true.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

It's such a weird feeling that people would think that provably fair stuff could be rigged, or even if not provably fair, casinos that makes millions of dollars would rig and have a risk of losing all their customers.

Think about it, you make 1 million dollars per year profit, would you give it all away for 10 million dollars today? I would not, that would not make sense, I could just sell my company and keep being rich, do another business, or just retire and be healthy. I can say that me personally? I would retire for 200k dollars, that would be more than enough for me to retire, and would be a decent amount.

These people are making more money in profit right now then they could ever spend, they do not "need" this much money, why would they take a risk and lose it all just to steal from some customers? That never made sense to me at all. I understand that we are going to end up with something that would be a little bit of a big change if that were true.

First of all, ask yourself, how does the casino make the one million dollars profit every year? What if their means of making this profit is by the games they rigged and the money they steal from unsuspecting customers who play this games in hopes or assumptions that they are playing a provably fair game?

Now, I am not talking about casinos in general, as I personally know and believe that we have a lot of reputable casinos that wouldn't want to engage in cheating customers by providing them a rigged game to play, but let's not try to pretend or say that it's not possible for some dubious casinos or game providers to rig a game, and customers will play that game for years, losing their money and believing that their loss was as a result of luck not being on their side, meanwhile, the actual result of their loss was actually because the game is rigged, and they do not know it.

I have actually come across some casino present a game to players, and claim the game is provably fair, whereas after some sophisticated gamblers invested the game, they discovered the said game is not provably fair, as claimed by the casino, this happens, but mostly with new and dubious casinos or game providers.

[Fortify]

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.


Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

If you're going into a casino or gambling environment with the mentality that it's rigged, you've probably already lost regardless because you are in the wrong state of mind to play. You could look at online poker sites for example and realistically there is a heavy chance they are rigged in certain ways, sometimes rewarding terrible players who happen to deposit a lot of money, in the name of "fairness". However if you're in that poker mindset and thinking the house is against you, it'll put you on tilt so it's better to either conquer your doubts or even try to play with that disadvantage in mind. Fact is, it's highly unlikely you'll ever be able to tell that online sites are really rigged because random numbers can equally screw you over.

[Vaculin]

 Slots have always been luck based and mostly, the edge is on the house always that leave us rare chances to win. So realizing that, then its really possible that we will only lose consistently if we keep pursuing betting in slots. That's why some players who can't accept their huge losses end up accusing the casino that their games are rigged, which I think it needs more clear evidence before accusing.

This happens if you always assume that you will end up winning decent amount after betting. When in reality, slots are giving us rare chances to win, so its up to us if we keep risking our money in this low probability of making us profitable, until we end up losing everything in our wallet.

[dunfida]

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.


Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

If you're going into a casino or gambling environment with the mentality that it's rigged, you've probably already lost regardless because you are in the wrong state of mind to play. You could look at online poker sites for example and realistically there is a heavy chance they are rigged in certain ways, sometimes rewarding terrible players who happen to deposit a lot of money, in the name of "fairness". However if you're in that poker mindset and thinking the house is against you, it'll put you on tilt so it's better to either conquer your doubts or even try to play with that disadvantage in mind. Fact is, it's highly unlikely you'll ever be able to tell that online sites are really rigged because random numbers can equally screw you over.

Wrong state of mind indeed on which you would really be that able to make yourself that believe on something which it isnt even true. You would really be molding up those kind of ideas whenever you are experiencing
losses. It would really be that part of humans mindset whenever they've been experiencing repetitive things on which they would really be assuming that the site is rigged.  Losing up millions before you would completely stop? this is something that do talks about gambling addiction i should say. If you've been able to notice up something then you wont really be that making yourself that reaching out into that point.
It would be always that a loser kind like of reasoning whenever you do find yourself being wrecked up on which it would really be just that normal that you would be having those kind of thoughts
but eventually those ones are very wrong. You cant really just make out those claims without having solid evidences yet you would really be that making yourself that looks like a clown. hehe

[rahmad2nd]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

I can't answer correctly what you said. but throughout my experience, when I am enjoying a gaming session and a crash occurs, this femomena situation often occurs. but it can be when I'm in the phase of a good shot, or conversely a bad game. usually, when I play slots. but as I said, it's not always when we are in a winning condition. In fact, when I play with a small bankroll I often experience this. Well, just imagine, even a game with a small bankroll can crash, especially if you bet with a large bet. It's possible that this situation occurred randomly due to a system error.

To be sure, I can't say for sure. On the other hand, there are many gamblers who win their gambling sessions even without any problems. I once saw my friend play slots in person, and he won several thousand dollars. So, if the game is rigged. that means, my friend will never win that big win. In fact, it's not uncommon for luck to always accompany my friends' gambling sessions. well, we have two different cases. you are always at a disadvantage, while experience and what I see from my wins are the opposite.

If you want to confirm that you have been cheated, it would be better to provide concrete evidence. that too, with reasonable evidence. try doing the experiment again, and you can record it. prove it, is this just a personal assumption due to frequent defeats? or... you are being cheated. Honestly, I don't want to defend the casino, if the casino has a high reputation, let alone integrity, it won't do things like that. Moreover, most slot games are developed by third parties and as far as I know, every game player has gone through an RNG system. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I mostly bet on sports.

[klidex]

Actually, I don't really know how slot games or other online casino games work, whether they use AI or something like that to ensure that users don't experience big profits, but I once experienced a crash when playing slots, but I thought that it might be because my signal was wrong, but After this thread came up, I wondered whether it was true that online casinos were actually set up in such a way as not to experience big losses because they ran a business of course to make big profits.

But we cannot assume carelessly because we don't really know yet and there is no evidence to show that slot games or other types of online casinos are cheating because what we all know for sure so far is that gambling games are actually aimed at providing pleasure to their users and not to make money. .

[LUCKMCFLY]

I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

The guy on the video just overextended his bad luck and when he raked losses he began to think that the slots and casinos are rigged he should know better if he had been gambling for a long time, he should know that when he is having a long stretch of bad luck he should stop right away and not wait for him to lose millions then go on stream to tell people that casinos are rigged.

This is not good behavior you picture yourself as a sore loser and you cannot get over your losses, a responsible gambler does not broadcast his losses and tells people that he got cheated because the casino he's playing is rigged.

Well this happens when the people are not clear about what the casino's seventy is like, everyone can tell the wind of the house , and they can take it later as something that 'happened because it was tampered with, I think that many people when they don't know the system of some people they should not enter, because it is for problems , if they Accept Things as they are in the casinos there will always be misunderstandings, it could be because of the adrenaline at the moment and how he did things, because it hurt him a lot to have lost , because Partly when we Hear more about it, the casinos always have the way of thinking that they have to win, and that's the case , Because a casino is the owner of its business and in every business you have to ensure the Profits, and you are not going to have a casino just to have losses , it is something that does not make any kind of sense, so based on this we must be aware that we are fighting against the advantage of the house, against the complexity of the game, so the moments where we have those blows of Good luck because we must make the most of them to be able to have a Better way of Seeing things and to be Able to Leave with some Profits.


Sometimes the Psychological aspect of people in doing things Better can lead us to a broader sense of what they can achieve, many enter with the Intention of making a lot of money, and they go through the slots because that is the way they usually do With money you can achieve a lot, but don't you see that with that Amount of money it is little or however the person Wants to bet, it is more difficult to win? because if not everyone would play slto and would withdraw thousands of millions of dollars every day and would leave the casino decapitalized, then it is in this order of ideas that we must assume that the bears in the casino always are and will be like this, there is no way that can be seen from Otherwise, they will try to win, and it is Unfortunate that the person who made the video has become so angry and then says that it is Manipulation, no casino will get Upset over him.

[ethereumhunter]

Actually, I don't really know how slot games or other online casino games work, whether they use AI or something like that to ensure that users don't experience big profits, but I once experienced a crash when playing slots, but I thought that it might be because my signal was wrong, but After this thread came up, I wondered whether it was true that online casinos were actually set up in such a way as not to experience big losses because they ran a business of course to make big profits.

But we cannot assume carelessly because we don't really know yet and there is no evidence to show that slot games or other types of online casinos are cheating because what we all know for sure so far is that gambling games are actually aimed at providing pleasure to their users and not to make money. .

We will never know what really happened because we are just users who want to have fun playing slots. We also don't need to think too deeply about the possibility of cheating by casinos in gambling games at their casinos. If we think about that and try to look for evidence that the casino is cheating us, it will waste a lot of time because we will definitely spend time looking for evidence. And that will clearly influence us in getting pleasure from gambling. Instead of doing things like that, we should enjoy gambling as entertainment and accept the results. After all, we won't always experience loss because we can win from slot games.

And what we have to do is look for a trusted casino that will not cheat the gamblers who are permanent members who often gamble at the casino. By getting a trusted casino, we don't need to worry about scams that the casino might commit because a trusted casino will definitely maintain its reputation and always provide satisfaction to its members. Cheating means that the casino takes the risk of being abandoned by gamblers who are loyal to gambling at the casino, and it is a loss for the casino if the gamblers find out that the casino is cheating against its gamblers.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

OP, don't always think that your games are rigged if there is not valid or reasonable evidence to back it up. If you have evidence and proof that can go beyond any reasonable doubt, then you can take legal action against the casino. That's if you have the money to finance the case.

Normally, in the casino business, gamblers lose more than they win, and that's the actual reason why the casino business is still expanding. If the casino owners frequently have more winner than losses, then they will have to spend all their money paying gamblers.

I can also see that you are talking about stake casinos, but have you tried to also test other casinos? I know that each time I gamble against the computer, like in some virtual sports games, I always feel cheated because I used to think that the system was biased, but that's just how the system is designed.

[justdimin]

This video that has our millionaire gambler saying games are rigged lacks merit in his reporting!!!

Why didn't he add some screenshots showing his seed never changes, if this was the case a refund would easily be initiated by the casino!

And he goes on to say he gambles 20 hours straight without hitting anything, this tells me he is either jumping from one game to another which is a bad strategy if we consider RTP which should pay you for playing for a while on that game... otherwise key information is missing in this vlog shared!!

Hope his not a hired gun trying to discredit some Casino out there...

Even some proofs like screenshots can still now be manipulated easily because of how advance our technology nowadays. Also, the seed doesn't matter. It only reminds me of those gambler who think changing seeds increases their chances of winning lol. Lastly, even if we say that the allegations are true, there is no way that a casino will accept it easily. They will always deny it at first, not until many people will support the accusations being thrown at them.

Playing 20 hours straight is insane but there should be a hit within that time frame. The strategy of jumping games could work great. I saw someone before who recommended that, when we feel that the games aren't giving anything. At the end of the day, luck still plays a major role. We can win early or later, in any games we play if luck permits.

[Kelvinid]

Just accept the fact that you are part of the 9,999 in 1:10,000 luck odds ratio. I think taking time to relax betting is still working and so the system will reset and might get a random result. If you are playing straight in a day I think that the system will detect the pattern. I am not an expert but this happened to me once with online casino where I suffer consecutive loss on a one hour gambling. It might be a coincidence but that is what I think of that pattern.

The pattern is that some gambling sites never give a chance of the players to win more, they all suffer big losses while just winning some.
Indeed, we have to accept the fact that not all the time we are too lucky in gambling which is why we can't assume that if we gamble we are able to multiply our money, not the case especially if we are gambling in pure luck base games.

I could suggest that we have to choose good and reputable gambling sites as it was also a big factor in winning.