Conclusion after losing millions! that games are rigged.

[raybucks]

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.


Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

[electronicash]

if his seed is the same over and over it's definitely rigged but why was he playing still whichever casino he is playing.
so in stake, you think there is some sort of an AI figuring out in order for you to lose?  if there ever was a complain like that, you should be able to make a record to show that it's predetermined.

if there ever was something like this, a not-so-reputable casino would be doing it. but it always needs proof for the accusation to be true. but tell you competitors are always trying to ruin each other's reputation.   

[ralle14]

With hundreds of players placing bets on Stake, there could always be another bettor winning on the other end, so I wouldn't say it's straight-up rigged. I've experienced the same losses whenever i'm upping my bet size, but I think it's more about the house edge tipping the numbers in favor of the casino than the game being rigged. Also, slots have one of the worst win probabilities, so it's expected to see gamblers lose frequently. I've heard a similar discussion where they said the developers can cause bigger betting sizes to lose more, but I can't tell if it's true.

[moneystery]

i don't think that it's rigged, it's just that the algorithm in the game regulates the game so that it won't cause any harm to the platform. the casino is a business and it is natural for them to arrange the game to make a profit for them. if you think that the game is rigged, then you just have to stop playing, it's just that easy, the casino doesn't force you to play. and if you feel that it is rigged, you must be able to prove it and state that it is rigged according to scientific evidence, if it is just a claim, people will not believe it.

[Yatsan]

Betting more would give you the assurance of winning? Not winning means the machine or platform itself is rigged? I hope all of us are aware of what algorithm is and how it works. You are not the only player; sometimes you lose and sometimes other players are winning. But this is not to close the doors for the possibility that it is not rigged; there should be other instances as well or experiences by more players not only OP alone.

[ryzaadit]

Rigged while you understand how the provably-fair and proof it the result is rigged.

Meanwhile, If you cannot explain or expose the provably-fair being rigged. Then, all-of-your statement is based only on opinion because you're losing like my favorite quote for gambling:
- Win = I keep playing on these casino
- Lose = This game is rigged.

If you playing type game like (Slot) or something like that (computer), you should know is not good against the player. 98-99% you are gonna to lose money, go to casino and playing (card-games) like BJ with card-counting skill at least.

One more favourite qoute

Most gambler are quit before they hitting the jackpot, remember you only 1% way to hit the jackpot ~XD

[Beparanf]

Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

House game on Stake can be verified the fairness. I doubt they will rigged the game while they can be caught cheating through their probably fair system.

You only feel this because you bet big. You will notice everything if you are wagering what you can’t afford to lose since you will just ignore that bust bet if you only bet a penny on that round. Your luck is just bad at the time you choose to increase your bet. Check your bet history, You will notice that experience tons of this kind of early busy multiplier but you just not paying much attention on it because the amount involved is too small.

[alani123]

The randomness of games has nothing to do with graphics. In fact, crash games are some of the few that run on provable fairness no matter which platform hosts them. Learn how provably fair works, you can yourself verify randomness without any space for doubt this way.

The thing with streamers though, is that it's a whole other level of deception. They will never teach you about provable fairness, they will never tell you when they're on someone's payroll and never disclose that they are playing with provided funds. It's a crazy industry. You shouldn't trust what gambling streamers say, their shown winnings or anything. So trainwrecks is right on the first part of the video, but when he talks about seeds it gets confusing. In a normal provable fairness setting you should be able to reveal your seed when needed and also add your own inputs for generating one for extra randomness.

Also RTP doesn't work on an individual basis, it works all across the board. If you lose all of your balance there's no way you're getting  it back but the RTP means that whoever is winning gets paid more than their balance. In the long run, a game can be profitable even with 1% house edge. There's tons of games that work with such a low house edge in crypto and a good example is dice sites even prime dice and bustabit which are some of the sites with the largest potential win. Both sites are provably fair and you can test the fairness of every wager if you'd like.

The streamer you linked is a good guy, but like even the scummy gambling streamers, he doesn't explain things in a way that would teach people to stay safe. Yes, blanket statements like saying "don't gamble" throw the issue out of the window but they don't address anything. People are going to gamble anyway so they better know. So my suggestions would be:

a. learn about provable fairness
b. check your bets and verify their fairness

This way at least you won't have any doubts next time.

[Oilacris]

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.


Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

Rigged or not, there's no way that you could really be able to tell or prove out not unless if there are really that those solid evidences but in overall it is really just that a normal behavior on pointing out some fingers on the time that you would really be experiencing those losses on which it would really be just that a common approach on having such hunches and accusations without having any bases
or simply not really that something been proven out and just said out those words due to extreme frustration and anger basing up on the situation that you are facing on.
It is really just that very normal act to be done by most people and having those assumptions that those games are totally rigged. If you are really that having doubts about someones legitimacy then it would really be just that right that you should really be sticking into those places on which you do see that most people been playing because this is something that you could be able to trust on.

[crwth]

Isn't this always the case? Casinos are there to make money and not to help you with anything. They have an advantage called House Edge. They have that kind of advantage. It's never going to be with the player. They are there to entice you and give them more of your money. It's always going to be the case. The problem I think comes from the people who expect to have a lot of payback because of how much they have spent and that could be true for some case but what if you don't?

[Jating]

Well everyone is going to take if a casino is rigged or not, regardless of what the amount is, if my experienced. And the casino has one answer only, how about those who are winning on the other hand?

And there are ways to check whether casinos are rigged though or if they are provably fair and I think everyone should do that instead of accusing some casinos.

I'm not defending them, it's that as gamblers we always find someone to blame for our losses, but if you look closely, it is us gamblers who take that risk and betting $10 to $1 million and if it doesn't go our way, then we say that we are being cheated.

[goxcraft]

Which gambling platform are you reffering to exactly?  Many of them might be rigged but the most famous and reputed ones aren't. If they were, their reputation would crumble to the dirt. By your example, I think you might have used a low class gambling site. Another thing, there is no way to confirm it's rigged, they is no backdoor to verify this. But you assumed it's properly rigged. Can't expect wins always. Can you? Gambling sites also doing their business. If they loss everything what's the point. To fix this they use an algorithm that picks random value when one bets. It ensures fairness to both sides, gambler and gambling site.

[Lanatsa]

Well everyone is going to take if a casino is rigged or not, regardless of what the amount is, if my experienced. And the casino has one answer only, how about those who are winning on the other hand?

And there are ways to check whether casinos are rigged though or if they are provably fair and I think everyone should do that instead of accusing some casinos.

I'm not defending them, it's that as gamblers we always find someone to blame for our losses, but if you look closely, it is us gamblers who take that risk and betting $10 to $1 million and if it doesn't go our way, then we say that we are being cheated.

Just like on what most people been saying on here on which on the time that we are on the verge of busting our bankroll completely, then we would really be having those thoughts and doubt that we might really be that engaging on a non-fair site or simply being rigged on which this is the only time you would be making up some research and trying to look for some relevant information about scam related issues
and on the time that they have seen one then they would really be that making as their basis that they hunch was true but we know that even legit or reputable sites does have that
those common known issues on which its inevitable or something that cant be avoided.

Its true that people do really love on pointing out their fingers on the time that they are losing. Is this something a reasoning mechanism or trying out to ease their stress or pain?
We dont know but for sure each of us on the time that we are just starting gambling could really be having these kind of thoughts initially which even myself
could really be able to say that im one of those.  

[Casdinyard]

Is the game provably fair? if so check the seed, if the seed's repeated over and over again the site is rigged, but if he's going to use some soothsaying bullshit to suppose whether a casino is one-upping him (which surprise surprise, is completely normal, and is a thing that they call the "house edge"), then he better back his statements up with more concrete evidences instead of saying stuff.

It's fine to lose and complain especially if you're on a roll and you're seeing some patterns, but if I were that guy, it would be smarter to actually just take the magnifying glass and do some official investigation first and foremost, before jumping into conclusions. If he finds out he's telling the truth not only will he have the proofs to back it up, he would also be duly compensated for it too!

[rhomelmabini]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

First, was the money being played really from his account? I don't know but there are streamers that just playing their bankroll in which it's from the casino itself. I wonder what was the name of the casino, the slot and the provider but if it's from a reputed casino I don't think it's a rigged one. It's not necessarily rigged maybe he's just unlucky to think it is but we never know.

[wheelz1200]

You can't say it's rigged based on that alone though.  With any games there are variabilities.  Same on the winning side I've seen people go on crazy runs playing terrible odds and beating the odds.  I will be honest I haven't delved too far into some of these "it's rigged" to make a complete determination but anyone who loses always feels like it's rigged against them.

[swogerino]

The games in these case,slots are designed to make profit to the casino that is why there is the house edge into it however I agree in part that they are "rigged" because they are ill programmed,nowadays these new slot providers are hiring worthless programmers that keep designing games to immediately take your money in consecutive ways while the providers of before,the ones who used to make land based slots for physical casinos even though the end result was the same,they too get your money their programmers were smarter as they kept you playing much longer.

Shame on all the providers of today for their low quality work in slot machines.

[BitcoinPanther]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

The man just got unlucky and get bitter about his gambling experience.  Why not share his winnings moment?  I believe gambling like slots have predetermined results and it was randomized by RNG.  It is whether our spin will hit that random winning script or that losing script.

I agree with ralle14, that while we are losing in our game session, other people are winning.  So if it is rigged then all people should be losing on their gambling session at the very moment we are losing our bets.

[Stepstowealth]

I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

The game are rigged because you have not won. Gambling has always been to the favor of the Casino more and the betting platform, not the gambler who is playing, so whenever you gamble, there is big chance you loose than the chance that you win. Gamble for fun or do not gamble at all since you cannot handle loosing money to gambling. Any money you spend gambling, take it that you have spent that money to have fun so that you do not feel remorseful and bitter after loosing.

[salad daging]

Casinos always have the advantage to remain profitable as owners rather than gamblers because we know slot games or anything that is computer-based we will lose more than win, but why do people still continue to play if it is true that it is cheating, because there is no valid evidence to prove it.

But either when gamblers spend millions of dollars on bets at casinos and then lose and realize it will definitely think the casino has cheated from the computer games that have been set up, there is another when the gambler wins then he will remain silent and enjoy the money and never think it's fraud but instead get addicted.

Will not consider this as an exaggeration, because I know slot games or others lose more but I never say casinos cheat.

[Westinhome]

Betting more would give you the assurance of winning? Not winning means the machine or platform itself is rigged? I hope all of us are aware of what algorithm is and how it works. You are not the only player; sometimes you lose and sometimes other players are winning. But this is not to close the doors for the possibility that it is not rigged; there should be other instances as well or experiences by more players not only OP alone.

The most common words for the person who loss the money in gambling was you are blaming the site for the loss.Did you blame the same gambling site for the biggest win in the game.So the gambler should act like the matured person,he should take responsibility for the win and loss.The gambling game based on the algorithm,So we can’t say the particular person will win daily because he had made the big win on one day.The Algorithm itself change daily in every day,So if you feel loss in the particular games on the certain day.It’s better to quit the gambling games on that particular day.So you may be saved on that particular day loss,the next day may give you million dollars we can predicted it.

[stomachgrowls]

I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

The game are rigged because you have not won. Gambling has always been to the favor of the Casino more and the betting platform, not the gambler who is playing, so whenever you gamble, there is big chance you loose than the chance that you win. Gamble for fun or do not gamble at all since you cannot handle loosing money to gambling. Any money you spend gambling, take it that you have spent that money to have fun so that you do not feel remorseful and bitter after loosing.

We do always have that reasoning mechanism on which it is really just that very common or do really happen to anyone on which there would really be those moments that you would really be that thinking that it wasnt really that fair at all but to think that house do always have the advantage or the edge then it would really be normal that we would really be experiencing such losses on which it would really be just that normal on having this kind of situations. If there would be winners then there would be tons of losers in the other side and come to think that gambling is indeed a business on which it would really be just that normal
that they would really be making out money and of course they cant really just afford on having no advantage to their players. This is how they do make revenue.

[goaldigger]

You can't say it's rigged based on that alone though.  With any games there are variabilities.  Same on the winning side I've seen people go on crazy runs playing terrible odds and beating the odds.  I will be honest I haven't delved too far into some of these "it's rigged" to make a complete determination but anyone who loses always feels like it's rigged against them.

If you lose that much doesn’t mean that the game is rigged and the casinos are cheating, remember that the house will always have the advantage and losing is already part of gambling. If you want to earn real money then gambling should not be the option because profit here is not guaranteed. Those streamer probably are just trying to hype a casinos but if you are going to follow them and expect the same result, then that is wrong.

[freedomgo]

What can you expect to hear from a guy who's lost millions in gambling? Even if the system is proven to be fair, a statement from a gambler who's lost a significant amount of money could be biased because it's driven by frustration.

Consider this simple logic: If a gambling site were rigged, why would a gambler risk millions on it, along with other gamblers? His statement should not be taken too seriously; he might just be venting his emotions and could return to gambling once he's in a calmer state of mind.

[o48o]

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

Why are these people always thinking it's rigged when they lose? It's like they are thinking that they deserve to win. I guess probabilities are hard pill to swallow because people don't seem to understand why they win or lose. Instead accepting that you are losing in crash, which is mathematically likely, you think that you can spot how computer is thinking how it bust your bets. Are you aware that sounds crazy?

Online casinos get constantly audited by different parties, And all it would take is a one time bust that they would get caught and their reputation would end. Why in the name of everything holy they would want to risk that. And to top of that to leave you visual clues where you can spot the rigged machine?

[livingfree]

If casinos allows everyone to win, we'd all be rich.

That guy has to understand the system should be in favor of the casino. They're not a freaking charity to give that high percentage of win rate to the gamblers.

We all know this in the first place when we gamble. But I think there's an ego part on it when you've been doing it with large amounts. That's why it is always being said to "gamble only with what you can afford to lose".

[uneng]

Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

It does happen with every gamblers who play a game for too long. Sooner or later results will start happening like that. It's part of the randomness of gambling games, therefore you shouldn't rely on big bets supposing it's going to be a safe strategy to play, because in fact, they can be your ruin. I say that, because it has already happened to me before when I was playing multiplier game with 1,01 odds, but more than 90% winning chance, still I lost more than 3 times in a row. Anyway, I can't say the game is rigged due to that happening.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

Well, if bets are verifiable, we really can't say games are rigged... It seems you don't want to hear the answer you have to hear. Change your strategy, don't put big funds in risk and forget about safe betting methods. It just doesn't exist. You can play mines with lowest risk available, but the risk is still there all the time.

[Ultegra134]

What can you expect to hear from a guy who's lost millions in gambling? Even if the system is proven to be fair, a statement from a gambler who's lost a significant amount of money could be biased because it's driven by frustration.

Consider this simple logic: If a gambling site were rigged, why would a gambler risk millions on it, along with other gamblers? His statement should not be taken too seriously; he might just be venting his emotions and could return to gambling once he's in a calmer state of mind.

I didn't watch the full video because I don't believe there's any reason to. But yes, I agree with you. His video doesn't actually prove anything in particular; it's his own theory that has no valid data to back up his statements. I don't believe that gambling games are rigged, but they're a business after all; they're counting on your losses to survive. Betting millions of dollars in the first place is something malignant to do. Who does that and expects a positive outcome from something so reckless? What kind of point would he be trying to prove? Because he certainly didn't waste millions in an attempt to demonstrate that the casino is rigged, there's no valid proof to support such a claim.

He's most likely another frustrated gambler who needs some help managing his money and his lack of self-control over gambling.

[PX-Z]

As long the probably fair works and has the same result in any verifier talking about being rigged is not possible unless you have proofs, or your seed doesn't change which can be seen in every rolls. About the type of game, its possible but rarely happens, especially for a huge casino like stake. All losers will probably doubt in such way, i even think about it when i consecutively loss in 8-10 rolls, then win after it lmao.

[Hispo]

If casinos allows everyone to win, we'd all be rich.

That guy has to understand the system should be in favor of the casino. They're not a freaking charity to give that high percentage of win rate to the gamblers.

We all know this in the first place when we gamble. But I think there's an ego part on it when you've been doing it with large amounts. That's why it is always being said to "gamble only with what you can afford to lose".

Right, If I was given a dollar each time some unfortunate gambler said the game was rigged against them, then I would probably retire by next year, in my opinion.
Also, if anyone is willing to wager literal millions, then we should be talking about a person who does not even need that money and has their life pretty much secured, spending their endless days gambling or doing whatever they please.
The last place I would expect someone of that profile would be here complaining bout their bad luck, OP probably does not even know how provable Fairness works or how to corroborate the results he is getting while gambling on games which use such mechanism.

This thread does not have a clear purpose unless very damaging evidence is presented which would translate into an actual investigation by the community of gamblers. Very unlikely, but we are supposed to be open to that slim possibility.

[Chikito]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

You have to check it multiple times before making the conclusion. Gambling is online, that possible on that time you have a bad connection internet and lag. or that possible RAM on your computer is slow to read memory. So, everything possible could be happen outside your conclusion above. You didn't mention the website either, maybe you play on a small casino which newly opened, we don't know the exact problem. but, I am sure if you play at the biggest casino, the problem may be on your side.

[Darker45]

Well, results of provably fair games are verifiable by anybody. So there's that. But I'm curious, is it possible that crypto casinos utilize open-source software in whatever they implement?

Anyway, in general, don't be too surprised when you gamble and lose. That should be the general outcome, anyway. There's the house edge. You cannot turn it the other way around. That would mean death to the casino industry.

I'm not sure if this is partly psychological. I have experienced this in gambling both online and offline. So, it's possible that it's our brains that are tricking us. The reality could simply be that we lose or we're unlucky or it's coincidence.

[Wexnident]

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I think this is something similar to survivor bias? If you don't know what it means it's like making armor for people who survive a war, thinking that the damages in their armor were the parts where it should be more protected due to damages but in fact, it only showed that because dead people don't bring their armor back. Same thing here imo, kind of, you don't exactly identify every wins/losses that affect the big picture, you just identify ones that are relevant to you. It's biased. If this was house edge then yea, we've always been cheated by casinos but that goes for every business to be fair. But in scenarios like this? Unless a comprehensive research is done, I can only cause this a biased view.

[danherbias07]

They are always rigged.
I understand your feeling about the Crash game because I played it too for a long time. I also tried analyzing the game and whenever there are heavy gamblers joining in I also saw that the game crashes below x1.30. It will happen for like 5 to 6 rounds until that heavy gambler surrenders or he will cut his bet to half or maybe less. When that happens, that's when you will see a change in multipliers. It could go x5 - x500 depending on how many heavy bettors cashed out early.
I had a chance before to get x200 and x500 in Crash although I didn't really see it because I left my PC on with an automated bet for just a small wager.
If you are saying they are rigged then believe it, they are rigged so it's on you with how you will be wise at playing against them.
Heavy bettors don't really go beyond x1.50 just a little win is okay for them.

[Blitzboy]

Its a known fact that there are times when people in the gaming business try to trick people. When you add the streamer's comments to your own, they do bring up an important question: Is there something behind the scenes that is working against the player? Even though rigging is a very serious charge, the fact that you keep losing, especially in crash games and slots, points to a chance that needs to be looked into.

The phrase "provably fair" is used a lot in a business world driven by computers and profit margins. Accountability and openness are very important. When players say something is fair, they should expect proof that can be checked. Data research, public pressure, and regulatory scrutiny are the only real ways to find out if someone is rigging. Join communities, talk about these trends, and work together to make platforms more accountable.

[livingfree]

If casinos allows everyone to win, we'd all be rich.

That guy has to understand the system should be in favor of the casino. They're not a freaking charity to give that high percentage of win rate to the gamblers.

We all know this in the first place when we gamble. But I think there's an ego part on it when you've been doing it with large amounts. That's why it is always being said to "gamble only with what you can afford to lose".

Right, If I was given a dollar each time some unfortunate gambler said the game was rigged against them, then I would probably retire by next year, in my opinion.
Also, if anyone is willing to wager literal millions, then we should be talking about a person who does not even need that money and has their life pretty much secured, spending their endless days gambling or doing whatever they please.
The last place I would expect someone of that profile would be here complaining bout their bad luck, OP probably does not even know how provable Fairness works or how to corroborate the results he is getting while gambling on games which use such mechanism.

This thread does not have a clear purpose unless very damaging evidence is presented which would translate into an actual investigation by the community of gamblers. Very unlikely, but we are supposed to be open to that slim possibility.

Yeah, for someone who gambles a lot and with that money. We don't care whether he can afford that or not but for him, he can spend that no matter what will be the outcome of his gambling.

We always have these people complain of how unlucky they are and how much they've lost. If they don't gamble in the first place, they wouldn't have any problems at all.

All they need to do is to stop gambling and let their money spend somewhere else so that they're not going to lose it through gambling.

[piebeyb]

I think we all know that and it's not even a figment, after all other people often experience losses like that but they don't say it's cheating, understand that it's part of the risk of gambling so that when you feel like you're losing don't think of it as part of cheating. by casinos, it is a risky game where in every game there are winners and there are also losers.

Even though we know that the casino still always wins against all its users, I think you understand what I mean, everything is set up to win the casino more than it wins the user, if the users win more then the casino will go bankrupt, have you ever seen a casino go bankrupt, I don't think so Unless the casino is empty of users, you need to learn more about it because I can only give you a clue to understand how the casino system works even though it uses a "probably fair" system. 

[ethereumhunter]

Even if our computer is cheated, we will never know. Even if we try to find out, it will also take time before we really know that the casino is cheating us. And when we know that the casino is cheating us, we better immediately move to another casino that can be fair. I never verify bets on casino sites because I don't think about cheating, even though I know it can happen. And to prevent cheating, we should choose a trusted and popular casino, even though that is not guaranteed. You said that we have to be responsible, so that means we have to be responsible in choosing the casino and not just follow other people's advice.

[angrybirdy]

Even if our computer is cheated, we will never know. Even if we try to find out, it will also take time before we really know that the casino is cheating us. And when we know that the casino is cheating us, we better immediately move to another casino that can be fair. I never verify bets on casino sites because I don't think about cheating, even though I know it can happen. And to prevent cheating, we should choose a trusted and popular casino, even though that is not guaranteed. You said that we have to be responsible, so that means we have to be responsible in choosing the casino and not just follow other people's advice.

We can't deny the fact that there's a possibility of online cheating issue since online casinos is operated by the developers, and there's always a risk that it may not operated fairly. An individual must ensure that the casino site that they are playing is trustworthy and legitimate. Do some research and make sure that the site has a good reputation, Also many individuals doesn't want to read Terms and Conditions which is important especially if there's a monetary involved, T&C plays a huge part because it states the rules of the games, restrictions and some requirements needed prior playing.

[Synchronice]

I can't really swear for Stake or any casino, I don't know their code but I can say that Casinos don't need to be rigged because they can legally set house edge or RTP on their games. Fixed house edge means fixed advantage for casino and fixed RTP (Return To Player) means that doesn't matter how much you bet, finally casino will be left with profit and only some percent of it will be returned to their players. House edge guarantees casinos to profit long-term and RTP can probably set for each day. For example, 90% RTP means 90% of money will go to players pocket while 10% will be left purely for casino.
My piece of advice is to just gamble for fun and don't spend millions in it. If high budget was enough to beat casinos, then they wouldn't really exist.

[len01]

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what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

ok, I would not say that, but do you remember how gambling works?
logically, everything about gambling and betting still relies heavily on luck, even slot games which in theory will continue to drain your money because thats how gambling works to get money to develop a gambling business and if I bet at the right and reputable casino good. If I lose in a row for a week or a month, I dont think its scam, but I am just unlucky.

and if you increase the number of bets or your budget, it does not mean that you will be safe from losing money because gambling is not always about winning but also the risk that you will incur, namely losses that you will continue to incur. so I not say dont gamble responsibly or gamble just for fun but rather the way gambling works is to get profits from customers but that does not mean scamming.

[coin-investor]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

Based on your post, you generalized it if you've been playing for many years and you are doing or did an investigation and you found out something is rigged based on the result of your investigation then do the community a favor by posting this in the scam section with all the screenshots of your evidence.

You don't speculate or make an assumption based on the experience of one streamer, does this mean that every loser will cry out its rigged and winners will not, not all who lose millions will cry its rigged, there are sore losers that will justify why they loss and will find a way to get back on the casino for losing.
If someone thinks that casinos are rigged then why did he let himself lose by millions?

[Yamifoud]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

Based on your post, you generalized it if you've been playing for many years and you are doing or did an investigation and you found out something is rigged based on the result of your investigation then do the community a favor by posting this in the scam section with all the screenshots of your evidence.

You don't speculate or make an assumption based on the experience of one streamer, does this mean that every loser will cry out its rigged and winners will not, not all who lose millions will cry its rigged, there are sore losers that will justify why they loss and will find a way to get back on the casino for losing.
If someone thinks that casinos are rigged then why did he let himself lose by millions?

Streamers these days don't have a good reputation. They're either paid to promote gambling sites or to criticize them. If someone loses millions, I don't think they should rush to social media. Their first priority should be filing a lawsuit if they have evidence that the game is rigged. We shouldn't quickly believe what we see, especially if it's harming a well-known gambling site that our community knows is doing well.

Stake is probably the most popular gambling site right now. They have a lot of money, so they can afford to sponsor big events. There are competitors who are willing to play dirty just to discredit them.

[Mahanton]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

Based on your post, you generalized it if you've been playing for many years and you are doing or did an investigation and you found out something is rigged based on the result of your investigation then do the community a favor by posting this in the scam section with all the screenshots of your evidence.

You don't speculate or make an assumption based on the experience of one streamer, does this mean that every loser will cry out its rigged and winners will not, not all who lose millions will cry its rigged, there are sore losers that will justify why they loss and will find a way to get back on the casino for losing.
If someone thinks that casinos are rigged then why did he let himself lose by millions?

Expect that they cant prove out any solid evidence which most of these accusations are really just that in result because of their emotions on which we know that these kind of words
would really be normally going or coming out on the time that a certain gambler would really be losing all of their money. So its better to ignore those type of person because there's no proof that they would definitely be able to show off since those things are really that completely just based up with their own insights and beliefs that they do have in mind on which we know that it isnt something that we do need to believe from time to time.
Even myself did really have that kind of experience on which on the time that you would really be having that consecutive loss then you would really be that definitely having those kind of thoughts or ideas
that would kicked in into your mind that what if you are dealing with a rigged site? Of course you would trying out to reflect on which place you are dealing with but if you are that been playing on a site
which is known and reputable then there's no way that you could be able to prove it out unless if you do have that solid proof then there might be a chance but if not then dont expect for the
public to support out such claim but rather they would really be laughing at you.

[Hispo]

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Yeah, for someone who gambles a lot and with that money. We don't care whether he can afford that or not but for him, he can spend that no matter what will be the outcome of his gambling.

We always have these people complain of how unlucky they are and how much they've lost. If they don't gamble in the first place, they wouldn't have any problems at all.

All they need to do is to stop gambling and let their money spend somewhere else so that they're not going to lose it through gambling.

Stop gambling completely is an option if they believe such activity is a major problem in their life, otherwise it is okey just to step down the wager and try get better at money management, in my opinion.
Also, It bothers my mind how anyone would spend millions on gambling before thinking the game is rigged against them, usually people start to suspect about a game being rigged way before reaching such point in their session or number of sessions and decide to move to other games or casinos.
If people paid attention the information page of casinos like Stake, where they clearly warn people not to deposit more than they can afford to lose, we would not see so many cases of people complaining and throwing accusations of fraud each time there are losses to mourn. At least, not all gamblerd are like that and just take the losses, moving on to improve themselves through time.

[Bananington]

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Yeah, for someone who gambles a lot and with that money. We don't care whether he can afford that or not but for him, he can spend that no matter what will be the outcome of his gambling.

We always have these people complain of how unlucky they are and how much they've lost. If they don't gamble in the first place, they wouldn't have any problems at all.

All they need to do is to stop gambling and let their money spend somewhere else so that they're not going to lose it through gambling.

Stop gambling completely is an option if they believe such activity is a major problem in their life, otherwise it is okey just to step down the wager and try get better at money management, in my opinion.
Also, It bothers my mind how anyone would spend millions on gambling before thinking the game is rigged against them, usually people start to suspect about a game being rigged way before reaching such point in their session or number of sessions and decide to move to other games or casinos.
If people paid attention the information page of casinos like Stake, where they clearly warn people not to deposit more than they can afford to lose, we would not see so many cases of people complaining and throwing accusations of fraud each time there are losses to mourn. At least, not all gamblerd are like that and just take the losses, moving on to improve themselves through time.

Am sincerely always saddened by such kind of accusations mostly when the gambler has lost much more than what they should loose. I don't know which was the case between having to discover the games betted on was rigged or having to realize the loss and thus looking for who to blame for incurring such a loss.
It was probably a very bad day to have lost such in slots and if I were the one who noticed how the systems delayed showing winning results or rewards, I would have not waited for my funds to finish because I was so engrossed and feel I can win after the next bet. I believe this happened so because the OP has much funds to loose and it wouldn't bother him as life or others don't depend on him for survival.
Even the owners would disagree the game was rigged because they have the business and want to make profit at any means and can delete any proof of such criminality behind rigging.

[decodx]

Gambling is a tricky thing.  For some folks, it's no big deal - they can throw down cash and not have it mess with their lives.  But others get sucked in too deep.  Even if you've got money to burn, gotta watch that you're not just tossing it to the wind without getting any fun back. 

Calling something rigged when you're on a losing streak is an easy.  But the casinos and bookies gotta keep an even playing field to keep their good name. and  That's not saying there aren't shady games out there, but you better have solid proof if you're gonna yell rigged!

[bitzizzix]

People thinking that casinos are rigged is a common misconception, and casinos are guaranteed to make huge profits without cheating. Moreover, there is no real evidence to support that casinos are cheating and many gamblers lose a lot of money and accuse them of being cheated by casinos when in fact they do not accept the fact that it is one of the real risks in gambling.
Gambling is luck and luck is unpredictable. So bet moderately and for fun, sometimes today you are unlucky, tomorrow there is a chance to be lucky.

[Westinhome]

People thinking that casinos are rigged is a common misconception, and casinos are guaranteed to make huge profits without cheating. Moreover, there is no real evidence to support that casinos are cheating and many gamblers lose a lot of money and accuse them of being cheated by casinos when in fact they do not accept the fact that it is one of the real risks in gambling.
Gambling is luck and luck is unpredictable. So bet moderately and for fun, sometimes today you are unlucky, tomorrow there is a chance to be lucky.

Gambling had no need to cheat the gamblers,because they already earning by conducting the game.So in the game one of the gambler was the winner and all the rest was the loser.So the game based on the algorithm,the person who had create the maximum updated tactics to the algorithm will be the winner.But while creating the tactics,don’t think you are the brilliant then the algorithm or the gambling site.If so all the adult around the world will do the gambling alone.So the gambling was based on the undefined algorithm,which is hard to predicted by the person who well at the mathematics.So the luck also important with the tactics in the gambling.

[yahoo62278]

It's called gambling man. You are not going to win every bet nor are you going to lose everytime. You can verify your results on most sites and see the bet was fair. If it was easy then everyone would be rich and the casinos would be out of business. That's just the simple truth of it all. Casino's(at least most of them) don't need to cheat players. They know in the longrun that players are going to lose. You cannot go around calling sites a scam because you lost.

[darkangel11]

Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

Bet big? What is big in your opinion? Your understanding of big might be different from what we and owners of Stake think it is.
If you really see it happening this way, why wouldn't you record your session and put it on youtube? I could be sympathetic if I saw this happen. If you were to bet in a pattern like this ($1 W, $1 W, $10 L, $1 W, $1 W, $10 L, $10 L and so on), people might start to believe you, but for now it's your word against the casino's.
I don't think that it's rigged but if I lost a million dollars I'd probably change my mind. You can go crazy after such loss.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I definitely would say that some games are sure rigged on some casinos, most especially in games like slot games and casino games, but it is important to understand the place of luck in gambling, this is something i think i particularly have mentioned on this board in one of the threads. some gamblers have this habit of seeing games as rigged whenever they play and don't win, like they are expecting to always be winning all the time, forgetting that gambling does not work like that.

One will not always be lucky as long as gambling is concerned, it's wrong to believe that a game is rigged when we don't win, meanwhile we don't complain or think same whenever we are winning, like i said before, there are indeed some casino that rig some of their games, but this is mostly done by less popular casino who are still in dear need for money from gamblers to keep the casino running, I do not believe that casinos as big as Stake will engage themselves in rigging games when they already have made more than enough money for themselves.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I definitely would say that some games are sure rigged on some casinos, most especially in games like slot games and casino games, but it is important to understand the place of luck in gambling, this is something i think i particularly have mentioned on this board in one of the threads. some gamblers have this habit of seeing games as rigged whenever they play and don't win, like they are expecting to always be winning all the time, forgetting that gambling does not work like that.

Well maybe they are rigged on some casinos, specially those that don't have reputation and I think some of them really do that, obviously to make money out of unsuspecting victims and it's might be too late that we might have noticed some irregularities. And if I'm not mistaken, there was one casino as well being accused of colluding specially in a poker table.

One will not always be lucky as long as gambling is concerned, it's wrong to believe that a game is rigged when we don't win, meanwhile we don't complain or think same whenever we are winning, like i said before, there are indeed some casino that rig some of their games, but this is mostly done by less popular casino who are still in dear need for money from gamblers to keep the casino running, I do not believe that casinos as big as Stake will engage themselves in rigging games when they already have made more than enough money for themselves.

I guess that's how the mindset of most gamblers most of the time. We know that risk and we did take it and then we won some and lost some. But the problem is that if people continue to lose in a such a bad way that we really can't explain and the only way we look at it is that we have been cheated by this casinos.

[Oilacris]

It's called gambling man. You are not going to win every bet nor are you going to lose everytime. You can verify your results on most sites and see the bet was fair. If it was easy then everyone would be rich and the casinos would be out of business. That's just the simple truth of it all. Casino's(at least most of them) don't need to cheat players. They know in the longrun that players are going to lose. You cannot go around calling sites a scam because you lost.

Throwing out those kind of reasons does simply shows that a certain person is really that totally saying up those things because of their emotions on which they would really be having that kind of reasoning or trying out to convince themselves that they had been cheated or being rigged up and there are ones who are really that too tactful when it comes to this on which means
that it is really that a common behavior. There are really just those people who cant just accept the risks involved with gambling and made out direct accusations without having any basis.
Yes its true that gambling businesses are indeed wont really be able to exist if they are really that keep on losing. They are running a business and of course they would
really be that normally be having the advantage against their players but of course it would really be just that on a minimal chance on giving out those winnings to.
Establishing trust and reputation is never been simple, this is why casino owners wont really be that so dumb on having those kind of cheating their players.

[topbitcoin]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

Will the more we bet guarantee that we will win? And will the more we increase the bet, the more we can guarantee that we will get a big win?

No matter how often or how big we bet, we can never guarantee that we will get a big win in the gambling we are doing, especially as you are telling us, it is a type of machine gambling game like slots and other similar games. And after all, the machine can be arranged in such a way as to not harm the owner and still make a profit even though it has given big wins to some of its visitors. This is gambling that depends on luck to win. This is different from card games where you can always increase your chances of winning, for example by improving your skills, knowledge and tricks to win the game. Likewise with sports betting, by betting here you will always be able to increase your chances of winning by continuing to improve your skills, analytical techniques, knowledge, information and the sharpness of your instincts in predicting matches. And it is said that soccer betting is the fairest type of gambling because the level of losses and wins is equal.

And starting from what I have mentioned above, this is where it is important to understand and determine what type of gambling you will play. Don't let it happen because we don't understand the type of gambling we are playing as well as the rules of the game, where because of this ignorance, in the end we will only blame the gambling platform when we experience continuous defeat. Even though we ourselves are too stupid because we don't understand the types of gambling and the rules of the game.

[Weawant]

Firstly I think it's important you know that gambling is very much based on luck and in most cases it's tilted to go against you so out of every 10 rounds, 8 are usually tilted against you except a few times you could be lucky to win that's basically how the casino profits.

So it's very possible there can be manipulations because if they continually allow you to win they wouldn't make profit and if everyone wins aswell there wouldn't be enough funds to pay everybody so at some point I think the throw in some manipulations so they could get some more funds but it's not too often, sometimes it could be you having a bad day and sometime you could have a lucky day aswell, this is a personal opinion tho.

[bluebit25]

The house knows that they will always have a profit with a large amount of capital to maintain operations on the games, and winning players are only a few, almost every game I have ever tried has the same feeling that they are are all addictive whether you lose/win. I have had a number of private conversations with online gambling developers, and they also shared the truth about the Sic Bo game, even if there is a difference in the odds between the parties, they will still be willing to pump money. to balance and win for the house. So there are actually killing machines that many people don't know about, but its legality is always an issue when the games that are created always have powerful and financial parties behind them support, so if you don't understand this and see it as a way to make money, sooner or later that addict will end up broke.

But we also need to have a more fair view, not only on negative issues, but also as an entertaining player, I don't want life to become difficult when losing. Fun gambling and sports betting all bring unforgettable emotions.

[pixie85]

We either have to agree that casinos use provably fair system and that it works, or not.

If you believe it doesn't, why not check the seed of that one game. You say that low bets were fine but when you bet high it was a loss, so it's rigged, so verify that one seed of the game you lost. I don't see a problem.

A game is very simple and it doesn't need time to think about the outcome of a roll. If you experience delays and think the game is making sure you lose, know that the interface is much slower than the game itself. The game is settled the moment you press your mouse button. You may not see the result but it's already calculated because the game needs milliseconds to do it, but then it has to let the front end do its thing and send it all to the player.

[erep]

Bet big? What is big in your opinion? Your understanding of big might be different from what we and owners of Stake think it is.
If you really see it happening this way, why wouldn't you record your session and put it on youtube? I could be sympathetic if I saw this happen. If you were to bet in a pattern like this ($1 W, $1 W, $10 L, $1 W, $1 W, $10 L, $10 L and so on), people might start to believe you, but for now it's your word against the casino's.
I don't think that it's rigged but if I lost a million dollars I'd probably change my mind. You can go crazy after such loss.

Maybe the OP is gambling with a different playing pattern and he has explained that he will always raise the bet every time he loses, so the gambler should know the algorithm of how the slot casino works then he will not accuse the casino of being rigged because the slot casino has low potential to win and the solution must minimize losses for the next betting session.

Don't play emotionally to increase your bet every time you lose because you will experience high losses and won't be able to recover your losses if you gamble with a pattern like that, that's why I rarely play slot gambling because it has an impact on the emotional factor of risking all my funds.

[Assface16678]

People thinking that casinos are rigged is a common misconception, and casinos are guaranteed to make huge profits without cheating. Moreover, there is no real evidence to support that casinos are cheating and many gamblers lose a lot of money and accuse them of being cheated by casinos when in fact they do not accept the fact that it is one of the real risks in gambling.
Gambling is luck and luck is unpredictable. So bet moderately and for fun, sometimes today you are unlucky, tomorrow there is a chance to be lucky.

True, I agree with you. The real problem here is the OP. Let's say this: if he suspects that the casino is rigged, then why does he keep betting? Even raise the stake? The real problem is that he keeps on betting and betting because he's desperate for winnings. He thinks that betting more money and betting more sessions will give him a win, but in reality, it's not. Slots are all about propability and luck; the OP just doesn't think carefully before spending and betting.

There is no evidence that online casinos are rigged; if it is, then they should not be permitted to operate online because they will adhere to the rules and laws; it's a processor to which they will get a permit, and I'm sure they have checked if their system will cheat or be rigged. It's just that the OP finds something to blame, but the truth is, he should blame himself for excessive betting. If you know you are losing too much money from that start, then as a responsible gambler, you should stop. You should know your limits, but the problem is that OP is an irresponsible gambler.

[jrrsparkles]

Did he lose millions to prove that slots are rigged?

Casinos claim that their results are provably fair and you can choose the casino that works for you it can be due to one or many reasons. You can't conclude the game is rigged just because you lost 10 out of 10 bets. And if you think the casino is intentionally manipulating the results of a crash game then they should always bust and only when no one bet they should hit which isn't the case so its all just assumption from the frustration and if you want to convince then it needed some proofs more than words.

[robelneo]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

I didn't finish the video because it's expected of a guy who loses millions he did not present anything that will verify his accusation look at the title of his video

IS GAMBLING RIGGED?!

So he is not sure if it is or he is only presenting his idea that it is, if he is a responsible gambler he should have done his research first and not wait for him to lose millions of dollars and then do an investigation people will think that you are a sore loser.

People should do an investigation on the casino or games they are going to play first and if they see that the casino or games are dubious then don't play and look for other games or casinos and make sure you know the fact that this is gambling it could go either way you get busted or you take home the jackpot

[Hirose UK]

Did he lose millions to prove that slots are rigged?

No, he didn't lose millions of dollars just to be able to prove that the game was rigged but he spent more money because he was curious about it all, and when there were suspicions he didn't stop but kept doing it again.

Casinos claim that their results are provably fair and you can choose the casino that works for you it can be due to one or many reasons. You can't conclude the game is rigged just because you lost 10 out of 10 bets. And if you think the casino is intentionally manipulating the results of a crash game then they should always bust and only when no one bet they should hit which isn't the case so its all just assumption from the frustration and if you want to convince then it needed some proofs more than words.

Casinos claim that the games they have are proven to be fair because most of the games are managed by third parties or providers and those that are used are trusted providers that every casino owner can rely on, after all, each game will always go through many trials before it is truly successful, can actually be released into casinos so it is natural that they claim that the games are provably fair.
For example gambling is an activity that has no certainty and will only result in defeat, so every gambler must understand that he must accept all forms of results that occur.
If he loses he then thinks that the game has been rigged then it is clear that this is the thinking of novice gamblers who do not have quite a lot of experience.

Moreover, when gamblers have decided to register and deposit money, they indirectly have to trust everything in the casino and if something happens then blaming the casino without clear evidence will only cause problems.

[goinmerry]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

If we talk about popular casinos and game providers, I won't say they are rigged after all. It's just that these players are not fortunate in that particular session and do not accept the fact that even if they feel that luck is not on their side, they still continue to gamble.

It's common to see gamblers blaming casino games are rigged just because they lose most of the time.

Gambling is a game of risks. Why expect to win most of the time? It's not called gambling anymore if the win rate chance can be determined.

[ethereumhunter]

We can't deny the fact that there's a possibility of online cheating issue since online casinos is operated by the developers, and there's always a risk that it may not operated fairly. An individual must ensure that the casino site that they are playing is trustworthy and legitimate. Do some research and make sure that the site has a good reputation, Also many individuals doesn't want to read Terms and Conditions which is important especially if there's a monetary involved, T&C plays a huge part because it states the rules of the games, restrictions and some requirements needed prior playing.

The problem of online cheating has been around for a long time and is difficult to eradicate. Still, each online casino, especially online casinos that are gaining popularity, always maintains its reputation by never cheating its customers because it will affect its reputation. Many gamblers also don't cheat because they realize that if they cheat, it will have an impact on their gambling account. Casinos can freeze gambling accounts easily because casinos always monitor the activities of all their customers. For this reason, we as gamblers also have to make sure we can register at a trusted and popular casino so that we don't experience problems when gambling or when we have finished gambling.

[Nerdy doctor]

Calling something rigged when you're on a losing streak is an easy.  But the casinos and bookies gotta keep an even playing field to keep their good name. and  That's not saying there aren't shady games out there, but you better have solid proof if you're gonna yell rigged!

You’re right. When you’re on a losing streak, that’s when the possibility of the casino being rigged enters your head. But while winning, you’ll probably be thinking of how smart and sharp you are to predict games and win. People love to claim responsibility whenever they’re having a positive outcome and claim fraud and be in total denial whenever they’re starting to lose. I’m moved to say it’s human nature as a lot of people are guilty of this but it’s not. Not everyone claims the system is rigged whenever they’re not having the outcome they wanted. You surely have got to have real evidence of your accusations.

[jaberwock]

I think we all know that and it's not even a figment, after all other people often experience losses like that but they don't say it's cheating, understand that it's part of the risk of gambling so that when you feel like you're losing don't think of it as part of cheating. by casinos, it is a risky game where in every game there are winners and there are also losers.

Even though we know that the casino still always wins against all its users, I think you understand what I mean, everything is set up to win the casino more than it wins the user, if the users win more then the casino will go bankrupt, have you ever seen a casino go bankrupt, I don't think so Unless the casino is empty of users, you need to learn more about it because I can only give you a clue to understand how the casino system works even though it uses a "probably fair" system. 

Casino is not a game but it's a place where there are games inside it and people play it to entertain themselves and have profit if they are lucky. I say it because many people lose as the casino has more advantage than them. The only thing that the user can win more is when a casino experience a problem or some hackers screw it first. I've seen cases like this on the past. I feel sorry for that casino. They are fair and only wants to try to earn on this space. There are still other reasons on why a casino can get bankrupt. No business owner's wants that so they should always try their best and follow the plans that they have created in order to avoid it.

[virasog]

Casino is not a game but it's a place where there are games inside it and people play it to entertain themselves and have profit if they are lucky. I say it because many people lose as the casino has more advantage than them.

Yes, the casino has the house edge advantage, and they deserve to get this advantage because they have spent the money to develop their site. business and it is not a charitable organization. Casinos are not at all made to give an advantage or free money to the player's, they are always made with a business mindset to earn profit.

The only thing that the user can win more is when a casino experience a problem or some hackers screw it first. I've seen cases like this on the past. I feel sorry for that casino. They are fair and only wants to try to earn on this space. There are still other reasons on why a casino can get bankrupt. No business owner's wants that so they should always try their best and follow the plans that they have created in order to avoid it.

Even though people lose more in the casino but still no one complains that the casino is rigged or unfair. Do you know why?
The reason is simple. Every gambler knows how the casino works and gambler still tries their luck that even with the house edge advantage to the house, they still have a chance to win big and this hope keeps motivating the gamblers to keep risking their money.

[junder]

Even though people lose more in the casino but still no one complains that the casino is rigged or unfair. Do you know why?
The reason is simple. Every gambler knows how the casino works and gambler still tries their luck that even with the house edge advantage to the house, they still have a chance to win big and this hope keeps motivating the gamblers to keep risking their money.

I will slightly add to your assumption, because indeed every gambler, especially those who are addicted, always think or carry the mindset that at that time or at that experiment they believe they will be able to be one of the lucky ones among the 10 people playing. As you said and I said just now is also nothing more than the motivation that they always bring to every gambling session, no matter if the final result always loses but this is a real cycle in gambling that will be experienced by every gambler, and if they finally lose they will assume that "maybe today I was unlucky" and they will come again tomorrow with the same motivation and enthusiasm.

I honestly can't give a significant reason as to why they have that mindset, but one of the reasons is because they misunderstand what is meant by "opportunity" in gambling, basically it is really just an opportunity and is not based on any guarantee for anyone who wants to try to take advantage of the opportunity. There is no cheating whatsoever in gambling and what makes them always lose is because of their own actions and mindset, they are wrong in understanding that gambling is not a place to make money but nothing more than entertainment and luck.

[Hispo]

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Yeah, for someone who gambles a lot and with that money. We don't care whether he can afford that or not but for him, he can spend that no matter what will be the outcome of his gambling.

We always have these people complain of how unlucky they are and how much they've lost. If they don't gamble in the first place, they wouldn't have any problems at all.

All they need to do is to stop gambling and let their money spend somewhere else so that they're not going to lose it through gambling.

Stop gambling completely is an option if they believe such activity is a major problem in their life, otherwise it is okey just to step down the wager and try get better at money management, in my opinion.
Also, It bothers my mind how anyone would spend millions on gambling before thinking the game is rigged against them, usually people start to suspect about a game being rigged way before reaching such point in their session or number of sessions and decide to move to other games or casinos.
If people paid attention the information page of casinos like Stake, where they clearly warn people not to deposit more than they can afford to lose, we would not see so many cases of people complaining and throwing accusations of fraud each time there are losses to mourn. At least, not all gamblerd are like that and just take the losses, moving on to improve themselves through time.

Am sincerely always saddened by such kind of accusations mostly when the gambler has lost much more than what they should loose. I don't know which was the case between having to discover the games betted on was rigged or having to realize the loss and thus looking for who to blame for incurring such a loss.
It was probably a very bad day to have lost such in slots and if I were the one who noticed how the systems delayed showing winning results or rewards, I would have not waited for my funds to finish because I was so engrossed and feel I can win after the next bet. I believe this happened so because the OP has much funds to loose and it wouldn't bother him as life or others don't depend on him for survival.
Even the owners would disagree the game was rigged because they have the business and want to make profit at any means and can delete any proof of such criminality behind rigging.

Rather of being saddened by people who lash out against the casino because they ran into losses they were not planing to have, it should serve as a warning for us, to keep ourselves within the tracks.of responsible gambling and consider any deposited money to be burnt money and not some kind of investment.
Also, any casino owner will argue that they are running a business and they are being fair when making clear to their patrons or gamblers about the odds they have to win or lose, if a casino is legitimate and is not doing anything illegal or shady then they will have nothing to hide from anyone who wishes to check their probably fair system.

There will be always people like OP who will claim the game is rigged, we are supposed to only pay attention if evidence is presented onto the table, otherwise, if the casino is reliable and with a long history of payouts, there is little one can do.

[maydna]

Even though people lose more in the casino but still no one complains that the casino is rigged or unfair. Do you know why?
The reason is simple. Every gambler knows how the casino works and gambler still tries their luck that even with the house edge advantage to the house, they still have a chance to win big and this hope keeps motivating the gamblers to keep risking their money.

If they still hope like that, they still have no chance of winning because it will depend on their luck. And they will avoid scam casinos because they have researched every casino they want to use for gambling. But it's different if they just choose the casino at random, so there is a possibility that they will experience fraud that the casino will carry out. That's what causes people to return to gambling to try to win the gambling games they like, so that will be their motivation always to try to gamble. Moreover, a trusted casino will refrain from cheating its customers because that would destroy its reputation, especially if the news spreads widely.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Even though people lose more in the casino but still no one complains that the casino is rigged or unfair. Do you know why?
The reason is simple. Every gambler knows how the casino works and gambler still tries their luck that even with the house edge advantage to the house, they still have a chance to win big and this hope keeps motivating the gamblers to keep risking their money.

If they still hope like that, they still have no chance of winning because it will depend on their luck. And they will avoid scam casinos because they have researched every casino they want to use for gambling. But it's different if they just choose the casino at random, so there is a possibility that they will experience fraud that the casino will carry out. That's what causes people to return to gambling to try to win the gambling games they like, so that will be their motivation always to try to gamble. Moreover, a trusted casino will refrain from cheating its customers because that would destroy its reputation, especially if the news spreads widely.

Well, each of us has an option to do things, the best option is that if one goes to the casino and loses, nothing happens, things are like that, always in a casino there is the latent possibility that one as a player loses and that is not It means that the casino is a fraud or something like that, not at all, this is totally plausible because the casino will always have the advantage and it will always be a priority that they can be the things like that, now one as a player fights against that home advantage and can make a difference if you have some touch of luck, it is very different when a casino is fraudulent because generally they cannot cheat within the game system itself, what they do is when they are about to withdraw that they are not allowed and well that That's what leaves it there, so in this order of ideas we as players always before entering any casino, making a registration or something like that we must investigate whether the game is worth it or not.

We must be clear about two things, the first, the casino is a means of entertainment, it is not an ATM, the second option is that whenever we choose a casino to be the favorite, we must check its reputation, how reliable it is, and Here in the forum there are many options through which we, the reviewers, can realize, and the different ways there are to be able to face everything they say in the ANN thread, which for me is a very good option, there we see how it is that The casino is going, how is each incident, the complaints, the nice things, everything is what we must review, the comparison with all the casinos, more or less what is its position with respect to the other casinos, how much community it has, because A casino that has little community is debatable that strange things can happen, but a casino that has a lot of omnibusness and they are talking and sharing opinions all the time, that means that there are also winners, because no one is going to give away free money out there.

[Saisher]

I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

The guy on the video just overextended his bad luck and when he raked losses he began to think that the slots and casinos are rigged he should know better if he had been gambling for a long time, he should know that when he is having a long stretch of bad luck he should stop right away and not wait for him to lose millions then go on stream to tell people that casinos are rigged.

This is not good behavior you picture yourself as a sore loser and you cannot get over your losses, a responsible gambler does not broadcast his losses and tells people that he got cheated because the casino he's playing is rigged.

[maydna]

~snip~

Well, each of us has an option to do things, the best option is that if one goes to the casino and loses, nothing happens, things are like that, always in a casino there is the latent possibility that one as a player loses and that is not It means that the casino is a fraud or something like that, not at all, this is totally plausible because the casino will always have the advantage and it will always be a priority that they can be the things like that, now one as a player fights against that home advantage and can make a difference if you have some touch of luck, it is very different when a casino is fraudulent because generally they cannot cheat within the game system itself, what they do is when they are about to withdraw that they are not allowed and well that That's what leaves it there, so in this order of ideas we as players always before entering any casino, making a registration or something like that we must investigate whether the game is worth it or not.

We must be clear about two things, the first, the casino is a means of entertainment, it is not an ATM, the second option is that whenever we choose a casino to be the favorite, we must check its reputation, how reliable it is, and Here in the forum there are many options through which we, the reviewers, can realize, and the different ways there are to be able to face everything they say in the ANN thread, which for me is a very good option, there we see how it is that The casino is going, how is each incident, the complaints, the nice things, everything is what we must review, the comparison with all the casinos, more or less what is its position with respect to the other casinos, how much community it has, because A casino that has little community is debatable that strange things can happen, but a casino that has a lot of omnibusness and they are talking and sharing opinions all the time, that means that there are also winners, because no one is going to give away free money out there.

If a gambler loses a gambling game, it means that he does not have the luck to win and does not have the skills needed to be able to beat his opponents. He also can't accuse the casino of cheating him because if he realizes it, he's not alone in losing, and many gamblers also lose. So are they going to accuse the casinos of ripping them off? Of course not, unless they gamble in a shady casino where they will obviously experience fraud by the casino because the casino will not let the gamblers win a lot of money. So before gamblers enter the casino, they should be able to realize that they have a greater chance of losing than they can win so that they cannot accuse the casino of cheating. If they don't want to experience losses, especially big losses, they shouldn't gamble at all, where they don't have to experience losing their money and don't need to accuse anyone of cheating them.

Yes, casinos are a means of entertainment that we can use in our free time, but we also have to use limits when gambling so that we can prevent losing a lot of money, which is often unacceptable for gamblers. Before we choose a casino, it would be better if we find out more information to find out why the casino is classified as a trusted casino or a shady casino so that we will only gamble at trusted casinos and always stay away from shady casinos because they will definitely cheat us easily. And yes, it is true that in this forum, we have many reviewers and members who are experienced in gambling who always share their experiences with many people. They share their good and bad experiences when gambling at a casino and will give a warning if the casino is shady. But they will suggest trusted casinos that we can use to gamble so that we can avoid fraud from these shady casinos.

[milewilda]

~snip~

Well, each of us has an option to do things, the best option is that if one goes to the casino and loses, nothing happens, things are like that, always in a casino there is the latent possibility that one as a player loses and that is not It means that the casino is a fraud or something like that, not at all, this is totally plausible because the casino will always have the advantage and it will always be a priority that they can be the things like that, now one as a player fights against that home advantage and can make a difference if you have some touch of luck, it is very different when a casino is fraudulent because generally they cannot cheat within the game system itself, what they do is when they are about to withdraw that they are not allowed and well that That's what leaves it there, so in this order of ideas we as players always before entering any casino, making a registration or something like that we must investigate whether the game is worth it or not.

We must be clear about two things, the first, the casino is a means of entertainment, it is not an ATM, the second option is that whenever we choose a casino to be the favorite, we must check its reputation, how reliable it is, and Here in the forum there are many options through which we, the reviewers, can realize, and the different ways there are to be able to face everything they say in the ANN thread, which for me is a very good option, there we see how it is that The casino is going, how is each incident, the complaints, the nice things, everything is what we must review, the comparison with all the casinos, more or less what is its position with respect to the other casinos, how much community it has, because A casino that has little community is debatable that strange things can happen, but a casino that has a lot of omnibusness and they are talking and sharing opinions all the time, that means that there are also winners, because no one is going to give away free money out there.

If a gambler loses a gambling game, it means that he does not have the luck to win and does not have the skills needed to be able to beat his opponents. He also can't accuse the casino of cheating him because if he realizes it, he's not alone in losing, and many gamblers also lose. So are they going to accuse the casinos of ripping them off? Of course not, unless they gamble in a shady casino where they will obviously experience fraud by the casino because the casino will not let the gamblers win a lot of money. So before gamblers enter the casino, they should be able to realize that they have a greater chance of losing than they can win so that they cannot accuse the casino of cheating. If they don't want to experience losses, especially big losses, they shouldn't gamble at all, where they don't have to experience losing their money and don't need to accuse anyone of cheating them.

Yes, casinos are a means of entertainment that we can use in our free time, but we also have to use limits when gambling so that we can prevent losing a lot of money, which is often unacceptable for gamblers. Before we choose a casino, it would be better if we find out more information to find out why the casino is classified as a trusted casino or a shady casino so that we will only gamble at trusted casinos and always stay away from shady casinos because they will definitely cheat us easily. And yes, it is true that in this forum, we have many reviewers and members who are experienced in gambling who always share their experiences with many people. They share their good and bad experiences when gambling at a casino and will give a warning if the casino is shady. But they will suggest trusted casinos that we can use to gamble so that we can avoid fraud from these shady casinos.

Those point of view and beliefs would really be able to come out on the time that you had spend out all of your money or even we do say that you do hit up million mark losses but it is really just that impossible
that you wont really be ending up on being having those kind of questions in regarding your situation that you might have noticed something unusual. If you are trying to prove out that th site you are dealing with
isnt that fair then it would really be that wise that you should really be stopping  completely rather than on trying out to spend up more just to make some solid proof? There's no way that you could really be able to do
until you would really be that busting all of your account balances.

Therefore, it would really be the best thing to be done is to make yourself deal with those top ranking or considered/reputable gambling platforms on which you would really be clearing up your mind
for it to be possibly be rigged or not. Somewhat it wont really be that 100% safe or fair but basing up on rankings then you would really be that at least confident that you are dealing with the right place.
You wont really be giving out those kind of reasoning on the time that you have lost all of your balance. FOr those people who are financially capable then losing millions would be peanuts,
if they can afford or reach out these numbers then these basically means that these fellas are whale gamblers.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Computer-based games are usually rigged bruh... ain't any of those games get played luckwise... Alot of peeps would be so lucky in claiming 'em wins that a casino would fall and other would either plan on a retreat option or quit permanently...
They're also paying bills and making daily expenses; don't also forget in a hurry that it's actually a business, not a "fund raising program" whatever happens, know these facts and have 'em on your mind when dealing with casinos.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[qwertyup23]

With hundreds of players placing bets on Stake, there could always be another bettor winning on the other end, so I wouldn't say it's straight-up rigged. I've experienced the same losses whenever i'm upping my bet size, but I think it's more about the house edge tipping the numbers in favor of the casino than the game being rigged. Also, slots have one of the worst win probabilities, so it's expected to see gamblers lose frequently. I've heard a similar discussion where they said the developers can cause bigger betting sizes to lose more, but I can't tell if it's true.

Stake is considered one of those well-known and reputable gambling site that ever existed. They spend millions of dollars in marketing and advertising since they even hire famous actors and rappers (e.g. Drake) to be their brand ambassador. With that kind of money involved, I am definitely sure that there are taking extreme care of their image and reputation on the market.

If their games are rigged, then somehow or someone would have to compile and send the necessary proof to their CS. I doubt that they would risk their reputation for rigging their games and earning thousands of bucks in return.

[romero121]

They have everything in an well organised framework. When we win we feel like things are good and provably fair in function. We go against them when we're on the losing side. If we make a cross check there won't be any flaw and every bet used to be fair. Our minds won't be in the state of accepting the loss and that intend us to say everything is rigged. Started the day gambling and I lost everything, I won only one bet and for the reason I don't say things were rigged. I feel like I was unlucky as the game I played was Dice. Below is the bets placed and the loss, started with $0.2 and ended with $33 emptying my wallet.

[Weawant]

You’re right. When you’re on a losing streak, that’s when the possibility of the casino being rigged enters your head. But while winning, you’ll probably be thinking of how smart and sharp you are to predict games and win. People love to claim responsibility whenever they’re having a positive outcome and claim fraud and be in total denial whenever they’re starting to lose. I’m moved to say it’s human nature as a lot of people are guilty of this but it’s not. Not everyone claims the system is rigged whenever they’re not having the outcome they wanted. You surely have got to have real evidence of your accusations.

It's usual with people to wan to behave in such manner where they tend to think that the casino is been manipulated because some how they are on a loosing streaks but then it's important we learn to keep an open mind to the fact that it's just luck playing out.

With gambling while you loose, some one else is winning so it's almost a balanced situation and most of the time it turns out you may not be having a Lucky day and doesn't mean it's been manipulated because as you loose someone is Winning but if it were manipulated, then everyone will be loosing,. But then no doubts I think sometimes there could be slight adjustments with the casinos which may look like manipulatios.

[maydna]

~snip~

Those point of view and beliefs would really be able to come out on the time that you had spend out all of your money or even we do say that you do hit up million mark losses but it is really just that impossible
that you wont really be ending up on being having those kind of questions in regarding your situation that you might have noticed something unusual. If you are trying to prove out that th site you are dealing with
isnt that fair then it would really be that wise that you should really be stopping  completely rather than on trying out to spend up more just to make some solid proof? There's no way that you could really be able to do
until you would really be that busting all of your account balances.

Therefore, it would really be the best thing to be done is to make yourself deal with those top ranking or considered/reputable gambling platforms on which you would really be clearing up your mind
for it to be possibly be rigged or not. Somewhat it wont really be that 100% safe or fair but basing up on rankings then you would really be that at least confident that you are dealing with the right place.
You wont really be giving out those kind of reasoning on the time that you have lost all of your balance. FOr those people who are financially capable then losing millions would be peanuts,
if they can afford or reach out these numbers then these basically means that these fellas are whale gamblers.

Someone who frequently gambles for a long time can spend all their money, especially if they don't control themselves to stop gambling, and that has happened to many gamblers, so they experience huge losses. Many of them end up losing all their money and even their savings just because they gamble and can't stop themselves when they start to lose a lot. And they will even accuse the casino of cheating them so that they lose a lot without realizing that it is their own fault. It is true that if we find the casino to be unfair, we should immediately stop gambling, withdraw all remaining money, and not use the casino again for gambling. That will help us avoid cases of casino cheating, and we can save money.

We must be able to find a casino that is truly trusted to avoid problem after problem, such as cheating, that casinos will carry out because trusted casinos will not do this. After all, it can reduce their reputation. Ultimately, many people will leave the casino. Once we find a trusted casino, we can gamble there, but we have to control ourselves because if not, we can spend a lot of money without any chance to recover the losses. Only in this way can we avoid the problem of losing money or gambling addiction because when we gamble, we definitely feel interested in playing other gambling games. Therefore, if we can control ourselves well when gambling, we will not be tempted to try gambling in a casino for a long time because we want to avoid all problems or negative effects.

[0t3p0t]

Just accept the fact that you are part of the 9,999 in 1:10,000 luck odds ratio. I think taking time to relax betting is still working and so the system will reset and might get a random result. If you are playing straight in a day I think that the system will detect the pattern. I am not an expert but this happened to me once with online casino where I suffer consecutive loss on a one hour gambling. It might be a coincidence but that is what I think of that pattern.

[Hirose UK]

You’re right. When you’re on a losing streak, that’s when the possibility of the casino being rigged enters your head. But while winning, you’ll probably be thinking of how smart and sharp you are to predict games and win. People love to claim responsibility whenever they’re having a positive outcome and claim fraud and be in total denial whenever they’re starting to lose. I’m moved to say it’s human nature as a lot of people are guilty of this but it’s not. Not everyone claims the system is rigged whenever they’re not having the outcome they wanted. You surely have got to have real evidence of your accusations.

It's usual with people to wan to behave in such manner where they tend to think that the casino is been manipulated because some how they are on a loosing streaks but then it's important we learn to keep an open mind to the fact that it's just luck playing out.

With gambling while you loose, some one else is winning so it's almost a balanced situation and most of the time it turns out you may not be having a Lucky day and doesn't mean it's been manipulated because as you loose someone is Winning but if it were manipulated, then everyone will be loosing,. But then no doubts I think sometimes there could be slight adjustments with the casinos which may look like manipulatios.

The thoughts and behavior in blaming the casino for manipulation because of the big losses they suffered are the thoughts or assumptions of people who cannot accept every loss.
Things like this happen very often, some even say everywhere that they were cheated by the casino, even though they lost money not because of fraud or embezzlement but because they lost in game or bet.
In gambling, losing is something that is bound to happen and every gambler must be able to accept it and even really let go of losing money when deciding to start gambling.

Well, I agree with this that when gambling we lose there are other people who are lucky and win, no one can always win guaranteedly from gambling and there is no way to prove that the casino is unfair or manipulates the game.
It is important to understand that every casino game has random way of working and we cannot know it, so it will be very difficult to prove that there is manipulation or cheating.

As wise gambler, we must always think that winning is only when we are lucky and gambling will always result in defeat.
When there is awareness like this, will never state that there is manipulation.

[Latviand]

It's not rigged but more like it favors the house more often, rigged means there's no chances that you will be winning so I don't exactly think online betting or gambling is exactly rigged. If you really don't trust the website that you're playing on then don't play there anymore, that's the only solution. You can always find other gambling websites that's more trustworthy when it comes to their games so there's really no excuses why you keep staying on that casino or betting site if you feel like you're being cheated on your bets or games. I also would like to add that there's also organizations that ensures fair gaming so I don't know how they will be able to rig games.

This link can be helpful in understanding that there's organization that's ensuring there's fair games in an online casino although this only has a Filipino jurisdiction so it might be not that helpful.

Code:

https://medium.com/@pesobetphilippines/online-casino-regulation-in-the-philippines-balancing-entertainment-and-responsibility

Here's some house edge samples online.

[aioc]

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

That's your experience it's not necessarily the experience of all gamblers and you cannot compare your experience with other gamblers, every gambler needs
 to face the house edge and it differs from one gambler to another, so if you think that you are always busted some gamblers are having a good run in winning.

The guy on the video knows how to verify his bet since he is a gambler he should have posted the results of the verifier, if you're not comfortable playing on one casino because you suspect it of rigging the game, you can always check the other casinos.

There are times that we are lucky in one casino and have bad experiences in other casinos you just pick the casinos where you have success but be sure it's a reputable one.

[alegotardo]

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

This is one of the advantages you can have when playing on a website compared to a physical casino.
When it comes to blockchain-based games, the most respected sites will always provide you with mechanisms to audit your bets and results yourself. If there is any fraud, it is "easily" detectable.
Unfortunately, most players don't do this conference, I don't do it myself.

Even though I believe that there are fraudulent sites, I believe that most of them are in fact fair to the players, the problem is that the probability in favor of the house ends up increasing the feeling that "something is wrong" and many players simply accuse the sites without have any evidence against them.

[Woodie]

This video that has our millionaire gambler saying games are rigged lacks merit in his reporting!!!

Why didn't he add some screenshots showing his seed never changes, if this was the case a refund would easily be initiated by the casino!

And he goes on to say he gambles 20 hours straight without hitting anything, this tells me he is either jumping from one game to another which is a bad strategy if we consider RTP which should pay you for playing for a while on that game... otherwise key information is missing in this vlog shared!!

Hope his not a hired gun trying to discredit some Casino out there...

[piebeyb]

There are times that we are lucky in one casino and have bad experiences in other casinos you just pick the casinos where you have success but be sure it's a reputable one.

It's difficult to find which casino makes us successful, even though we know that each casino is different and gives luck to its users, I think almost all casinos are the same, there is no coincidence that when playing at casino A I win and at casino B I lose, in my opinion it's just It's a coincidence and sometimes I also experience defeat at these two casinos, there is no such thing as success when playing gambling

In my opinion, success in gambling is success because you can control yourself when gambling and that does not mean success in winning large amounts of money, although we still have to know which casinos are safe for us to play in, namely those that definitely have a high reputation on this forum, at least so that we don't feel cheated and are certainly trusted on this forum.

[arimamib]

As wise gambler, we must always think that winning is only when we are lucky and gambling will always result in defeat.
When there is awareness like this, will never state that there is manipulation.

I hear the term "wise gambler" sounds so sarcastic, because I think wise people won't be a gambler. Gambling is inherently a game of chance, and the odds are always stacked against the player. There may be strategies that can help maximize the chances of winning, but these strategies cannot overcome the inherent randomness of gambling. Over the long term, most of gamblers will inevitably lose money, because the house always has an edge, meaning that the odds are always in their favor. There will be a winner when there some losers, no one can always be a winner. No matter how skilled or knowledgeable a gambler may be, they cannot consistently beat the odds and walk away with a profit.

I think wise gamblers are gamblers who deal with gambling as form of entertainment, and the only way to truly enjoy it is to accept that losing is part of the experience. If you gamble, do so responsibly and within your means, and never expect to make money from it.

[el kaka22]

It's such a weird feeling that people would think that provably fair stuff could be rigged, or even if not provably fair, casinos that makes millions of dollars would rig and have a risk of losing all their customers.

Think about it, you make 1 million dollars per year profit, would you give it all away for 10 million dollars today? I would not, that would not make sense, I could just sell my company and keep being rich, do another business, or just retire and be healthy. I can say that me personally? I would retire for 200k dollars, that would be more than enough for me to retire, and would be a decent amount.

These people are making more money in profit right now then they could ever spend, they do not "need" this much money, why would they take a risk and lose it all just to steal from some customers? That never made sense to me at all. I understand that we are going to end up with something that would be a little bit of a big change if that were true.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

It's such a weird feeling that people would think that provably fair stuff could be rigged, or even if not provably fair, casinos that makes millions of dollars would rig and have a risk of losing all their customers.

Think about it, you make 1 million dollars per year profit, would you give it all away for 10 million dollars today? I would not, that would not make sense, I could just sell my company and keep being rich, do another business, or just retire and be healthy. I can say that me personally? I would retire for 200k dollars, that would be more than enough for me to retire, and would be a decent amount.

These people are making more money in profit right now then they could ever spend, they do not "need" this much money, why would they take a risk and lose it all just to steal from some customers? That never made sense to me at all. I understand that we are going to end up with something that would be a little bit of a big change if that were true.

First of all, ask yourself, how does the casino make the one million dollars profit every year? What if their means of making this profit is by the games they rigged and the money they steal from unsuspecting customers who play this games in hopes or assumptions that they are playing a provably fair game?

Now, I am not talking about casinos in general, as I personally know and believe that we have a lot of reputable casinos that wouldn't want to engage in cheating customers by providing them a rigged game to play, but let's not try to pretend or say that it's not possible for some dubious casinos or game providers to rig a game, and customers will play that game for years, losing their money and believing that their loss was as a result of luck not being on their side, meanwhile, the actual result of their loss was actually because the game is rigged, and they do not know it.

I have actually come across some casino present a game to players, and claim the game is provably fair, whereas after some sophisticated gamblers invested the game, they discovered the said game is not provably fair, as claimed by the casino, this happens, but mostly with new and dubious casinos or game providers.

[Fortify]

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.


Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

If you're going into a casino or gambling environment with the mentality that it's rigged, you've probably already lost regardless because you are in the wrong state of mind to play. You could look at online poker sites for example and realistically there is a heavy chance they are rigged in certain ways, sometimes rewarding terrible players who happen to deposit a lot of money, in the name of "fairness". However if you're in that poker mindset and thinking the house is against you, it'll put you on tilt so it's better to either conquer your doubts or even try to play with that disadvantage in mind. Fact is, it's highly unlikely you'll ever be able to tell that online sites are really rigged because random numbers can equally screw you over.

[Vaculin]

 Slots have always been luck based and mostly, the edge is on the house always that leave us rare chances to win. So realizing that, then its really possible that we will only lose consistently if we keep pursuing betting in slots. That's why some players who can't accept their huge losses end up accusing the casino that their games are rigged, which I think it needs more clear evidence before accusing.

This happens if you always assume that you will end up winning decent amount after betting. When in reality, slots are giving us rare chances to win, so its up to us if we keep risking our money in this low probability of making us profitable, until we end up losing everything in our wallet.

[dunfida]

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.


Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

If you're going into a casino or gambling environment with the mentality that it's rigged, you've probably already lost regardless because you are in the wrong state of mind to play. You could look at online poker sites for example and realistically there is a heavy chance they are rigged in certain ways, sometimes rewarding terrible players who happen to deposit a lot of money, in the name of "fairness". However if you're in that poker mindset and thinking the house is against you, it'll put you on tilt so it's better to either conquer your doubts or even try to play with that disadvantage in mind. Fact is, it's highly unlikely you'll ever be able to tell that online sites are really rigged because random numbers can equally screw you over.

Wrong state of mind indeed on which you would really be that able to make yourself that believe on something which it isnt even true. You would really be molding up those kind of ideas whenever you are experiencing
losses. It would really be that part of humans mindset whenever they've been experiencing repetitive things on which they would really be assuming that the site is rigged.  Losing up millions before you would completely stop? this is something that do talks about gambling addiction i should say. If you've been able to notice up something then you wont really be that making yourself that reaching out into that point.
It would be always that a loser kind like of reasoning whenever you do find yourself being wrecked up on which it would really be just that normal that you would be having those kind of thoughts
but eventually those ones are very wrong. You cant really just make out those claims without having solid evidences yet you would really be that making yourself that looks like a clown. hehe

[rahmad2nd]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

I can't answer correctly what you said. but throughout my experience, when I am enjoying a gaming session and a crash occurs, this femomena situation often occurs. but it can be when I'm in the phase of a good shot, or conversely a bad game. usually, when I play slots. but as I said, it's not always when we are in a winning condition. In fact, when I play with a small bankroll I often experience this. Well, just imagine, even a game with a small bankroll can crash, especially if you bet with a large bet. It's possible that this situation occurred randomly due to a system error.

To be sure, I can't say for sure. On the other hand, there are many gamblers who win their gambling sessions even without any problems. I once saw my friend play slots in person, and he won several thousand dollars. So, if the game is rigged. that means, my friend will never win that big win. In fact, it's not uncommon for luck to always accompany my friends' gambling sessions. well, we have two different cases. you are always at a disadvantage, while experience and what I see from my wins are the opposite.

If you want to confirm that you have been cheated, it would be better to provide concrete evidence. that too, with reasonable evidence. try doing the experiment again, and you can record it. prove it, is this just a personal assumption due to frequent defeats? or... you are being cheated. Honestly, I don't want to defend the casino, if the casino has a high reputation, let alone integrity, it won't do things like that. Moreover, most slot games are developed by third parties and as far as I know, every game player has gone through an RNG system. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I mostly bet on sports.

[klidex]

Actually, I don't really know how slot games or other online casino games work, whether they use AI or something like that to ensure that users don't experience big profits, but I once experienced a crash when playing slots, but I thought that it might be because my signal was wrong, but After this thread came up, I wondered whether it was true that online casinos were actually set up in such a way as not to experience big losses because they ran a business of course to make big profits.

But we cannot assume carelessly because we don't really know yet and there is no evidence to show that slot games or other types of online casinos are cheating because what we all know for sure so far is that gambling games are actually aimed at providing pleasure to their users and not to make money. .

[LUCKMCFLY]

I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

The guy on the video just overextended his bad luck and when he raked losses he began to think that the slots and casinos are rigged he should know better if he had been gambling for a long time, he should know that when he is having a long stretch of bad luck he should stop right away and not wait for him to lose millions then go on stream to tell people that casinos are rigged.

This is not good behavior you picture yourself as a sore loser and you cannot get over your losses, a responsible gambler does not broadcast his losses and tells people that he got cheated because the casino he's playing is rigged.

Well this happens when the people are not clear about what the casino's seventy is like, everyone can tell the wind of the house , and they can take it later as something that 'happened because it was tampered with, I think that many people when they don't know the system of some people they should not enter, because it is for problems , if they Accept Things as they are in the casinos there will always be misunderstandings, it could be because of the adrenaline at the moment and how he did things, because it hurt him a lot to have lost , because Partly when we Hear more about it, the casinos always have the way of thinking that they have to win, and that's the case , Because a casino is the owner of its business and in every business you have to ensure the Profits, and you are not going to have a casino just to have losses , it is something that does not make any kind of sense, so based on this we must be aware that we are fighting against the advantage of the house, against the complexity of the game, so the moments where we have those blows of Good luck because we must make the most of them to be able to have a Better way of Seeing things and to be Able to Leave with some Profits.


Sometimes the Psychological aspect of people in doing things Better can lead us to a broader sense of what they can achieve, many enter with the Intention of making a lot of money, and they go through the slots because that is the way they usually do With money you can achieve a lot, but don't you see that with that Amount of money it is little or however the person Wants to bet, it is more difficult to win? because if not everyone would play slto and would withdraw thousands of millions of dollars every day and would leave the casino decapitalized, then it is in this order of ideas that we must assume that the bears in the casino always are and will be like this, there is no way that can be seen from Otherwise, they will try to win, and it is Unfortunate that the person who made the video has become so angry and then says that it is Manipulation, no casino will get Upset over him.

[ethereumhunter]

Actually, I don't really know how slot games or other online casino games work, whether they use AI or something like that to ensure that users don't experience big profits, but I once experienced a crash when playing slots, but I thought that it might be because my signal was wrong, but After this thread came up, I wondered whether it was true that online casinos were actually set up in such a way as not to experience big losses because they ran a business of course to make big profits.

But we cannot assume carelessly because we don't really know yet and there is no evidence to show that slot games or other types of online casinos are cheating because what we all know for sure so far is that gambling games are actually aimed at providing pleasure to their users and not to make money. .

We will never know what really happened because we are just users who want to have fun playing slots. We also don't need to think too deeply about the possibility of cheating by casinos in gambling games at their casinos. If we think about that and try to look for evidence that the casino is cheating us, it will waste a lot of time because we will definitely spend time looking for evidence. And that will clearly influence us in getting pleasure from gambling. Instead of doing things like that, we should enjoy gambling as entertainment and accept the results. After all, we won't always experience loss because we can win from slot games.

And what we have to do is look for a trusted casino that will not cheat the gamblers who are permanent members who often gamble at the casino. By getting a trusted casino, we don't need to worry about scams that the casino might commit because a trusted casino will definitely maintain its reputation and always provide satisfaction to its members. Cheating means that the casino takes the risk of being abandoned by gamblers who are loyal to gambling at the casino, and it is a loss for the casino if the gamblers find out that the casino is cheating against its gamblers.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

OP, don't always think that your games are rigged if there is not valid or reasonable evidence to back it up. If you have evidence and proof that can go beyond any reasonable doubt, then you can take legal action against the casino. That's if you have the money to finance the case.

Normally, in the casino business, gamblers lose more than they win, and that's the actual reason why the casino business is still expanding. If the casino owners frequently have more winner than losses, then they will have to spend all their money paying gamblers.

I can also see that you are talking about stake casinos, but have you tried to also test other casinos? I know that each time I gamble against the computer, like in some virtual sports games, I always feel cheated because I used to think that the system was biased, but that's just how the system is designed.

[justdimin]

This video that has our millionaire gambler saying games are rigged lacks merit in his reporting!!!

Why didn't he add some screenshots showing his seed never changes, if this was the case a refund would easily be initiated by the casino!

And he goes on to say he gambles 20 hours straight without hitting anything, this tells me he is either jumping from one game to another which is a bad strategy if we consider RTP which should pay you for playing for a while on that game... otherwise key information is missing in this vlog shared!!

Hope his not a hired gun trying to discredit some Casino out there...

Even some proofs like screenshots can still now be manipulated easily because of how advance our technology nowadays. Also, the seed doesn't matter. It only reminds me of those gambler who think changing seeds increases their chances of winning lol. Lastly, even if we say that the allegations are true, there is no way that a casino will accept it easily. They will always deny it at first, not until many people will support the accusations being thrown at them.

Playing 20 hours straight is insane but there should be a hit within that time frame. The strategy of jumping games could work great. I saw someone before who recommended that, when we feel that the games aren't giving anything. At the end of the day, luck still plays a major role. We can win early or later, in any games we play if luck permits.

[Kelvinid]

Just accept the fact that you are part of the 9,999 in 1:10,000 luck odds ratio. I think taking time to relax betting is still working and so the system will reset and might get a random result. If you are playing straight in a day I think that the system will detect the pattern. I am not an expert but this happened to me once with online casino where I suffer consecutive loss on a one hour gambling. It might be a coincidence but that is what I think of that pattern.

The pattern is that some gambling sites never give a chance of the players to win more, they all suffer big losses while just winning some.
Indeed, we have to accept the fact that not all the time we are too lucky in gambling which is why we can't assume that if we gamble we are able to multiply our money, not the case especially if we are gambling in pure luck base games.

I could suggest that we have to choose good and reputable gambling sites as it was also a big factor in winning.

[klidex]

~snip~

We will never know what really happened because we are just users who want to have fun playing slots. We also don't need to think too deeply about the possibility of cheating by casinos in gambling games at their casinos. If we think about that and try to look for evidence that the casino is cheating us, it will waste a lot of time because we will definitely spend time looking for evidence. And that will clearly influence us in getting pleasure from gambling. Instead of doing things like that, we should enjoy gambling as entertainment and accept the results. After all, we won't always experience loss because we can win from slot games.

And what we have to do is look for a trusted casino that will not cheat the gamblers who are permanent members who often gamble at the casino. By getting a trusted casino, we don't need to worry about scams that the casino might commit because a trusted casino will definitely maintain its reputation and always provide satisfaction to its members. Cheating means that the casino takes the risk of being abandoned by gamblers who are loyal to gambling at the casino, and it is a loss for the casino if the gamblers find out that the casino is cheating against its gamblers.

Indeed don't need to find out, however I'm just asking questions and don't know how online casinos work, but it's true this isn't really important for us to find out, even if there is valid evidence that casinos commit fraud or cheating, there are definitely many parties who will suffer losses and of course there are many parties who will sue the casino.

Yes, that's right and it's very important, that we have to be careful in choosing a casino to carry out gambling activities. There are many fraudulent casinos circulating widely in society, so we have to be smart in looking for a casino that has a good reputations and is definitely user by many peoples.

[Hirose UK]

As wise gambler, we must always think that winning is only when we are lucky and gambling will always result in defeat.
When there is awareness like this, will never state that there is manipulation.

I hear the term "wise gambler" sounds so sarcastic, because I think wise people won't be a gambler. Gambling is inherently a game of chance, and the odds are always stacked against the player. There may be strategies that can help maximize the chances of winning, but these strategies cannot overcome the inherent randomness of gambling. Over the long term, most of gamblers will inevitably lose money, because the house always has an edge, meaning that the odds are always in their favor. There will be a winner when there some losers, no one can always be a winner. No matter how skilled or knowledgeable a gambler may be, they cannot consistently beat the odds and walk away with a profit.

The meaning of wise gambler is not about wise people because I know wise people will not gamble because they will actually use their money for more useful things.
But here what is meant is gambler who has the attitude and thoughts of wise person where they will always consider everything when they want to make a decision and can be responsible for all the risks they take and can truly understand every activity they do.

The advantage is always on the provider or casino side and we as gamblers cannot defeat or reverse this because we have come to place full of uncertainty so whatever impacts or risks occur we must be fully able to understand without any negative thoughts towards the casino.

I think wise gamblers are gamblers who deal with gambling as form of entertainment, and the only way to truly enjoy it is to accept that losing is part of the experience. If you gamble, do so responsibly and within your means, and never expect to make money from it.

I agree with this and when we have this kind of approach there will never be any debate or opinion that defeat is the result of cheating or casino manipulation.
We came without being invited, we deposited money and bet without any coercion so it would be very inappropriate to claim anything bad about casino just because we lost.

[ethereumhunter]

Indeed don't need to find out, however I'm just asking questions and don't know how online casinos work, but it's true this isn't really important for us to find out, even if there is valid evidence that casinos commit fraud or cheating, there are definitely many parties who will suffer losses and of course there are many parties who will sue the casino.

Yes, that's right and it's very important, that we have to be careful in choosing a casino to carry out gambling activities. There are many fraudulent casinos circulating widely in society, so we have to be smart in looking for a casino that has a good reputations and is definitely user by many peoples.

That is why playing gambling at a trusted casino can give us peace of mind so that we don't think about cheating casinos because trusted casinos will not cheat even though there is still the possibility. We can only gamble calmly and not think about anything other than getting pleasure from gambling so that when we lose, we won't think that the casino is cheating us, so we lose.

And if we see an offer that is too attractive and too good to be true, we won't try it until we find the right reason why we need to try gambling at the casino. We will not force ourselves just to try to gamble at the casino because we already have a trusted casino that we often use for gambling. During this time, we also don't need to think about cheating that the casino might have carried out because our intention to gamble is just to get pleasure from gambling.

[dezoel]

It's such a weird feeling that people would think that provably fair stuff could be rigged, or even if not provably fair, casinos that makes millions of dollars would rig and have a risk of losing all their customers.

Think about it, you make 1 million dollars per year profit, would you give it all away for 10 million dollars today? I would not, that would not make sense, I could just sell my company and keep being rich, do another business, or just retire and be healthy. I can say that me personally? I would retire for 200k dollars, that would be more than enough for me to retire, and would be a decent amount.

These people are making more money in profit right now then they could ever spend, they do not "need" this much money, why would they take a risk and lose it all just to steal from some customers? That never made sense to me at all. I understand that we are going to end up with something that would be a little bit of a big change if that were true.

It's true, it doesn't make sense for a successful and reputable platform to cheat its customers just for a one-time reward that will put its reputation at risk which might cause it to lose the trust and eventually go out of business which is a bigger loss than what they could get by cheating because as you said, if they are earning 1 million dollars a year or even before a year, risking that much revenue for a few hundred thousand dollars doesn't sound like a good deal.

Smaller and less popular platforms might try doing something like that because maybe they are not earning a lot of revenue and they are always looking to get more money by hook or crook, they also wouldn't care much because they don't have a very large user base and don't have much to lose.

[LUCKMCFLY]

~snip~

Yes, indeed chasing losses with the desire to recover losses has a very bad impact and one of them is addiction which will hit our minds with uncontrollable emotions of high levels of greed so that they will lose their common sense and have difficulty gambling healthily and things like this often happen Even you and I have experienced this, but we as gamblers who have had experience for a long time can be a little more in control, it's just that after failing to control ourselves, we bet more and lose, usually regret will haunt us for a few days, but that's a normal condition the most important thing is to always make mistakes the key to improve yourself so that you ignore chasing losses in gambling.

When we have the desire to recover losses, it means we have started to become addicted to gambling, but these are still early signs of gambling addiction, and we have to control ourselves so that it doesn't get bigger. By trying to catch up on these losses, we will likely prepare even larger funds than before, and we may also use the winnings that we have earned. People think that with bigger capital, they can gamble longer, and that's true, but it guarantees they can get big wins too. They must realize that and not force themselves to keep chasing other wins. Many people have tried it, but many of them failed, so we don't need to experience the same thing as them.

Chasing losses or chasing losses a guarantee that you will lose and not many succeed, even chasing losses using martingale strategy that looks very good will ultimately lose due to lack budget. More precisely, we make gambling hobby and just to provide fun our free time without having to spend large amount, just small amount of money, betting on smallest value to still be able to enjoy the game for at least 1 hour,  will be more fun than having to chase something that uncertain unless provoked by emotion.
I often say here that would be better to just enjoy gambling as you were trying your luck when you have enough time and never think that from gambling we can get a lot money, but rather think that gambling will never give you money easily.

Well, I never recommend to people who enter a casino that when they lose they try to recover what they lost because it is the worst thing they can do, basically it is like telling them to say goodbye to their money and that they cannot do anything else, because that is what It happens when you try to earn what you have lost, you lose money in deposits, because that deposit is very likely to not pay off and go away, and the other thing is that you can do things well and suddenly all the money goes away thinking that recovered it due to a particular movement, then it is not good to do this type of practices, furthermore this is one of the advantages that casinos have to take advantage of the needs and impulses of people, it is something that will always happen and that many in the world will repeat that mistake, those are the things that should be avoided. I always say that before playing, you should have a balance ready to lose and not leave the money you have later because otherwise it causes problems.

A person sometimes has no experience at all in the game because it is something that they cannot see well and they let themselves be carried away by their seitmeionto, impulses and all this, but it is good that before playing they have their money ready to lose so that they don't regret it later and that means that they have complete discipline so that they can do things better, this is what I always recommend, to people who already have experience and to those who don't, well, they should do things that way, because it is the most recommended, that is why in the game you must have a lot of decision when playing.

In this order of days, as experienced players, we must always say this type of advice so that some avoid losing money, especially to newbies who come with that winning mentality, but who may not have sufficient control over their money. and they think that the casino feels obligated to make them win all the time.

[Eternad]

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It's true, it doesn't make sense for a successful and reputable platform to cheat its customers just for a one-time reward that will put its reputation at risk which might cause it to lose the trust and eventually go out of business which is a bigger loss than what they could get by cheating because as you said, if they are earning 1 million dollars a year or even before a year, risking that much revenue for a few hundred thousand dollars doesn't sound like a good deal.

Smaller and less popular platforms might try doing something like that because maybe they are not earning a lot of revenue and they are always looking to get more money by hook or crook, they also wouldn't care much because they don't have a very large user base and don't have much to lose.

I’m not telling that casino is really rigged but there’s a chance that some of them is really doing since most of the user thinking the same logic as yours which auto gives them defense on whatever accusation that throws to them because there’s always a person that will defend them and use this reasoning.

In house game, I doubt casino will try to cheat on a probably fair game because bet is verifiable and easy to spot if there’s something wrong while slot games by 3rd party is a different story. It’s very hard to conclude if they are not rigging since they are close source. Trust is the only reason why people keep using them without verifying fairness of the game.

[Dewi Aries]

~snip~

We will never know what really happened because we are just users who want to have fun playing slots. We also don't need to think too deeply about the possibility of cheating by casinos in gambling games at their casinos. If we think about that and try to look for evidence that the casino is cheating us, it will waste a lot of time because we will definitely spend time looking for evidence. And that will clearly influence us in getting pleasure from gambling. Instead of doing things like that, we should enjoy gambling as entertainment and accept the results. After all, we won't always experience loss because we can win from slot games.

And what we have to do is look for a trusted casino that will not cheat the gamblers who are permanent members who often gamble at the casino. By getting a trusted casino, we don't need to worry about scams that the casino might commit because a trusted casino will definitely maintain its reputation and always provide satisfaction to its members. Cheating means that the casino takes the risk of being abandoned by gamblers who are loyal to gambling at the casino, and it is a loss for the casino if the gamblers find out that the casino is cheating against its gamblers.

Indeed don't need to find out, however I'm just asking questions and don't know how online casinos work, but it's true this isn't really important for us to find out, even if there is valid evidence that casinos commit fraud or cheating, there are definitely many parties who will suffer losses and of course there are many parties who will sue the casino.

Yes, that's right and it's very important, that we have to be careful in choosing a casino to carry out gambling activities. There are many fraudulent casinos circulating widely in society, so we have to be smart in looking for a casino that has a good reputations and is definitely user by many peoples.

I think it's normal if you are curious about some indications that make you suspicious about whether there is fraud or not at the casino you go to, especially for online casinos, yes even though this is not too important for some people but believe me that out of 100 people I think there will definitely be at least 40/30 people who think or suspect the casino, I think it's normal because everyone has a level of concern for themselves  and none other than that it is also useful for their preparation if it is true that the casino they visit is involved in a case of fraud or fraud that will harm the gamblers.

As I said above that suspicion is only natural, because if they get some indications that give information that the casino they visit is involved in a fraud case  then they will be able to choose to find another casino that is more trusted, so with that they will be able to take some action to minimize things that are not wanted, and also yes it is also for their own good.

[virasog]

As I said above that suspicion is only natural, because if they get some indications that give information that the casino they visit is involved in a fraud case  then they will be able to choose to find another casino that is more trusted, so with that they will be able to take some action to minimize things that are not wanted, and also yes it is also for their own good.

Well, do we still need to have confusion about the casinos that are rigged and those that are honest? I mean the feedback says a lot about the gambling site. It will not be like that gambling casino, maybe doing rigged business with me while for others, it's being trusted. If you feel that the games are rigged at certain casinos, other gamblers will feel the same and this news will spread more than the fire damaging the casino's business in real time.

That is the reason, why being honest with gamblers should be a priority for the casinos if they want to build a long-term relationship with their clients and want the gambling site running for a long duration.

[LUCKMCFLY]

~snip~

Well, each of us has an option to do things, the best option is that if one goes to the casino and loses, nothing happens, things are like that, always in a casino there is the latent possibility that one as a player loses and that is not It means that the casino is a fraud or something like that, not at all, this is totally plausible because the casino will always have the advantage and it will always be a priority that they can be the things like that, now one as a player fights against that home advantage and can make a difference if you have some touch of luck, it is very different when a casino is fraudulent because generally they cannot cheat within the game system itself, what they do is when they are about to withdraw that they are not allowed and well that That's what leaves it there, so in this order of ideas we as players always before entering any casino, making a registration or something like that we must investigate whether the game is worth it or not.

We must be clear about two things, the first, the casino is a means of entertainment, it is not an ATM, the second option is that whenever we choose a casino to be the favorite, we must check its reputation, how reliable it is, and Here in the forum there are many options through which we, the reviewers, can realize, and the different ways there are to be able to face everything they say in the ANN thread, which for me is a very good option, there we see how it is that The casino is going, how is each incident, the complaints, the nice things, everything is what we must review, the comparison with all the casinos, more or less what is its position with respect to the other casinos, how much community it has, because A casino that has little community is debatable that strange things can happen, but a casino that has a lot of omnibusness and they are talking and sharing opinions all the time, that means that there are also winners, because no one is going to give away free money out there.

If a gambler loses a gambling game, it means that he does not have the luck to win and does not have the skills needed to be able to beat his opponents. He also can't accuse the casino of cheating him because if he realizes it, he's not alone in losing, and many gamblers also lose. So are they going to accuse the casinos of ripping them off? Of course not, unless they gamble in a shady casino where they will obviously experience fraud by the casino because the casino will not let the gamblers win a lot of money. So before gamblers enter the casino, they should be able to realize that they have a greater chance of losing than they can win so that they cannot accuse the casino of cheating. If they don't want to experience losses, especially big losses, they shouldn't gamble at all, where they don't have to experience losing their money and don't need to accuse anyone of cheating them.

Yes, casinos are a means of entertainment that we can use in our free time, but we also have to use limits when gambling so that we can prevent losing a lot of money, which is often unacceptable for gamblers. Before we choose a casino, it would be better if we find out more information to find out why the casino is classified as a trusted casino or a shady casino so that we will only gamble at trusted casinos and always stay away from shady casinos because they will definitely cheat us easily. And yes, it is true that in this forum, we have many reviewers and members who are experienced in gambling who always share their experiences with many people. They share their good and bad experiences when gambling at a casino and will give a warning if the casino is shady. But they will suggest trusted casinos that we can use to gamble so that we can avoid fraud from these shady casinos.

I think that the games, the sporting sense and all the clean analysis that can be done in a specific sport, we as bettors and with the initiative of doing our best analyzes seeing some of the criteria that we can, because we always base ourselves on what we We know and what we have learned throughout our lives, as I said before, in soccer, the classic example of soccer, how many times as a teenager I was wrong with the results, or at least saying who wins or who loses. ? But after uncovering the pot of great corruption that was in FIFA itself, how do we know how many soccer matches were not fixed? and many of us making good bets, maybe winning but rigged? It is something sad and it is like hitting a wall, but the manipulation is not even a big deal, it is within the very top of those who direct this, we do not know what forces move them, we know what things may be present.

Now, when we now stick to anti-corruption tools such as games when the VAR is consulted, which still does not have much corruption, it is very difficult to control an arbitration panel where all the power continues to be maintained by the main referee of the games, If a main referee is sure that he has ruled something, the VAR cannot prevent or intervene, that is why there are so many fights now, 'because a referee, no matter how close he is to the things that happen there, is human, and can make a mistake. the senses, due to the degree of emotion, of fatigue considering that the main referee runs throughout the entire soccer game, these types of things are what we must Consider and make them see as something main, then if the tools are and continue Giving more power to corruption is difficult, there are many things that seem to me that football is still corrupt, and many things that can lead to bad decisions , and that must end.

[Slow death]

As I said above that suspicion is only natural, because if they get some indications that give information that the casino they visit is involved in a fraud case  then they will be able to choose to find another casino that is more trusted, so with that they will be able to take some action to minimize things that are not wanted, and also yes it is also for their own good.

Well, do we still need to have confusion about the casinos that are rigged and those that are honest? I mean the feedback says a lot about the gambling site. It will not be like that gambling casino, maybe doing rigged business with me while for others, it's being trusted. If you feel that the games are rigged at certain casinos, other gamblers will feel the same and this news will spread more than the fire damaging the casino's business in real time.

That is the reason, why being honest with gamblers should be a priority for the casinos if they want to build a long-term relationship with their clients and want the gambling site running for a long duration.

In fact, things are not as simple as they say, most scam casinos, as well as other scam sites, are run by scammers desperate to steal a lot immediately and then run away with people's money, this type of scenario is what happens. applies to what you are talking about, but in recent times people, because they already know these scam patterns, are able to avoid falling into these types of sites, as you also said, the problem arises when scammers also evolve and create a site that allows them to scam long term and how do they manage to do this? The answer is this: scammers create a website that could be a casino or an altcoin investment site or anything else and start to gain people's trust

they run subscription campaigns, they pay for advertising on many sites, they get added to good review sites and they pay people to keep posting positive reviews and after months the site pays and when the scammers already have thousands of customers, then they start to freeze some customers' funds and scammers always use their TOS as an excuse for not paying and no one can accuse scammers of being thieves, this is because no one other than scammers can prove that the customer is really right, I'll give an example to make it easier to understand what I'm saying

let's imagine that a casino has 100,000 customers, so the casino blocks 10 customers' accounts and accuses them of having too many accounts and having cheated, the 10 customers swear that they don't have many accounts and didn't cheat, but the casino insists that they are lying and they maintain their decision to block the 10 people's accounts and keep all the 10 people's money, in this case the casino stole people's money and no one can change that and people accept it. and this has happened very often and the saddest thing is that on review sites there are positive comments about casinos that are scams

[junder]

It's such a weird feeling that people would think that provably fair stuff could be rigged, or even if not provably fair, casinos that makes millions of dollars would rig and have a risk of losing all their customers.

Think about it, you make 1 million dollars per year profit, would you give it all away for 10 million dollars today? I would not, that would not make sense, I could just sell my company and keep being rich, do another business, or just retire and be healthy. I can say that me personally? I would retire for 200k dollars, that would be more than enough for me to retire, and would be a decent amount.

These people are making more money in profit right now then they could ever spend, they do not "need" this much money, why would they take a risk and lose it all just to steal from some customers? That never made sense to me at all. I understand that we are going to end up with something that would be a little bit of a big change if that were true.

It's true, it doesn't make sense for a successful and reputable platform to cheat its customers just for a one-time reward that will put its reputation at risk which might cause it to lose the trust and eventually go out of business which is a bigger loss than what they could get by cheating because as you said, if they are earning 1 million dollars a year or even before a year, risking that much revenue for a few hundred thousand dollars doesn't sound like a good deal.

Smaller and less popular platforms might try doing something like that because maybe they are not earning a lot of revenue and they are always looking to get more money by hook or crook, they also wouldn't care much because they don't have a very large user base and don't have much to lose.

Yes that's right, logically why would they do something like that to the gamblers by rigging the percentage that affects the gambler's winnings, basically in my opinion it doesn't make sense, especially if the casino has a pretty good reputation as you said above then that action will actually not benefit them but on the contrary, it will be very detrimental to the casino in the long run, it is very dangerous if the gambler's trust has been lost to the casino then obviously the income from their business will decrease and or even they could go bankrupt maybe.

The point is that trust is the main thing for a company that they will give to gamblers, I'm not saying that this cheating won't happen but in my opinion casinos that already have a very good reputation in the eyes of gamblers and have gained many customers then they are unlikely to cheat like this, it's the same as they want to bring down their own business. And yes that's true which is more likely in my opinion it can happen in some new casinos or small casinos that do not have a good reputation, on the other hand their income is quite small so it is very possible that they think of ways to cheat gamblers with the aim of maximizing their income. So on this issue I totally agree with your statement buddy.

[mvdheuvel1983]

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

Finally one honest twitch streamer. Obviously, he lost because he is an independent streamer without ties or sponsorship to the casino. And he was able to give his honest review about them. Assuming that he was being sponsored, he first would not have lost because the casino would want a good rep from someone with high number of followers. Anyways I wouldn't conclude that he is right for now until other people checks it out and have the same report.

[maydna]

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I think that the games, the sporting sense and all the clean analysis that can be done in a specific sport, we as bettors and with the initiative of doing our best analyzes seeing some of the criteria that we can, because we always base ourselves on what we We know and what we have learned throughout our lives, as I said before, in soccer, the classic example of soccer, how many times as a teenager I was wrong with the results, or at least saying who wins or who loses. ? But after uncovering the pot of great corruption that was in FIFA itself, how do we know how many soccer matches were not fixed? and many of us making good bets, maybe winning but rigged? It is something sad and it is like hitting a wall, but the manipulation is not even a big deal, it is within the very top of those who direct this, we do not know what forces move them, we know what things may be present.

Now, when we now stick to anti-corruption tools such as games when the VAR is consulted, which still does not have much corruption, it is very difficult to control an arbitration panel where all the power continues to be maintained by the main referee of the games, If a main referee is sure that he has ruled something, the VAR cannot prevent or intervene, that is why there are so many fights now, 'because a referee, no matter how close he is to the things that happen there, is human, and can make a mistake. the senses, due to the degree of emotion, of fatigue considering that the main referee runs throughout the entire soccer game, these types of things are what we must Consider and make them see as something main, then if the tools are and continue Giving more power to corruption is difficult, there are many things that seem to me that football is still corrupt, and many things that can lead to bad decisions , and that must end.

We will never know how many football matches are clean and unfixed because we, as spectators, only know that the match is between this team and that team and hope that our favorite team will win so that the sports bet we place will also give a win. We also don't know whether we can win in the next round or whether we will experience defeat, and it all depends on the results of the analysis we do. But when the match is fixed, we also cannot predict it or predict it, especially if it is a secret from several parties who arrange it. We only know that there is manipulation in many sports matches, but we cannot investigate it because we are just ordinary spectators who need entertainment by watching football matches.

With VAR technology, everything can be revealed, but again, if every referee is bribed, of course, it will affect the match, and the match will never be honest. Unfortunately, if the referee is also bribed throughout the event, it will only make the event no longer interesting because each match is based on something other than the performance of each player. It is indeed difficult if there are still parties who can commit corruption, especially in sports matches, because they can never show the abilities of each player because the results are clear. There needs to be awareness from all parties, but it will be difficult if there are some parties who want to take greater advantage of each sporting event.

[redsun114]

In house game, I doubt casino will try to cheat on a probably fair game because bet is verifiable and easy to spot if there’s something wrong while slot games by 3rd party is a different story. It’s very hard to conclude if they are not rigging since they are close source. Trust is the only reason why people keep using them without verifying fairness of the game.

It's a different thing if we talk about third-party games because the casino isn't responsible for that and we shouldn't blame a casino if a third-party is manipulating the bets and odds of their players which can't be seen as the bets aren't verifiable as you said. A casino provides those games for the gamblers to play but I'm sure that they have it written in their terms and services that they are not responsible for any manipulation or something that happens from a third-party game provider.

Also, I think if they come to know that a third-party game provider is doing something like that, and if the casino is reputable and has a lot of trust in the community, they will simply remove that provider and all their games from their platform and might even let their gamblers know about the issue caused.

[LUCKMCFLY]

In house game, I doubt casino will try to cheat on a probably fair game because bet is verifiable and easy to spot if there’s something wrong while slot games by 3rd party is a different story. It’s very hard to conclude if they are not rigging since they are close source. Trust is the only reason why people keep using them without verifying fairness of the game.

It's a different thing if we talk about third-party games because the casino isn't responsible for that and we shouldn't blame a casino if a third-party is manipulating the bets and odds of their players which can't be seen as the bets aren't verifiable as you said. A casino provides those games for the gamblers to play but I'm sure that they have it written in their terms and services that they are not responsible for any manipulation or something that happens from a third-party game provider.

Also, I think if they come to know that a third-party game provider is doing something like that, and if the casino is reputable and has a lot of trust in the community, they will simply remove that provider and all their games from their platform and might even let their gamblers know about the issue caused.

It is very correct and even if that happens it is a very stupid move on the part of the game provider, I don't think he would be able to do something like that, because he would be against everything, if he already has a large clientele, it is obvious that he won't do it , Unless it is managed by someone else who is very irresponsible to do so, but that is something very far-fetched, of course everything in this world can happen, and based on these things it is possible, now, I do not believe that a service provider of gambling does something like that, I don't think that among them it is going to kill a business that does not have it for a casino, but for many Casinos, this is what we must see so that everything does not go overboard, a business Of these it is not so Easy to achieve it, the degree of trust, and everything that has to do with the sites is enough to trust them , now I say that if one of these machines is deconfigured, the providers of these machines should respond .

Well, in many casinos, some Bugs have Appeared in the Slots , and the slots are what Bugs appear the most, which makes them win a lot, and with little risk, it is as if they were Misconfigured and Caused the casinos to lose a lot of money. In this order of things, I have seen how some casinos, when they discover this, deactivate all withdrawal memories and the people who played and who did not know they had the error will simply leave it like that and that the money they won will not recognize it, That is to say, if they had it on their balance sheet, they would debit it and that's it, that's how things work, for that reason we should not let Something like that happen to us, if that is not acceptable for the casino to debit, because the player Who I was Playing, I didn't know the Casino was like this, much less the game, so it's annoying, and that has happened a lot here in the forum, problems of that style have been Presented and it has been something very Painful , in the End the one who has to Pay is the casino.