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November 04, 2023, 03:25:45 PM
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Yeah, I've definitely noticed how the slot machine demos seem way more generous than the real deal.  It's kind of shady if you ask me, getting people hooked on big wins in the free version, only to have the actual games be total duds in comparison.  but I guess they can claim it's just for fun and to show off the features. and  Doesnt make it less annoying when you put in real money expecting those sweet demo payouts and end up going home empty-handed though!

From their perspective juicing up the demos probably works great as a marketing scheme to reel people in.  Then the casinos can tweak the real games to pay out way less often.  It's smart business even if it feels kinda manipulative.  I mean, they aren't outright lying about the demos being purely for entertainment.  But it definitely encourages unrealistic expectations about winning if you aren't careful.  At the end of the day, the house always has the advantage, demos or not.

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November 04, 2023, 03:25:52 PM
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So because of this, I decided to try the demo mode on the original pragmatic website multiple times, (running over 100 sessions) and in all of them I have got at least one 200x returns every 10 bonus buys. Which is so different than live mode.

My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?

I once tried playing a demo mode and was surprised that I had a good run in winning until a friend told me that it is very different when you play in a real game you will be disappointed to think that it is the same, the demo mode is to check the games's setting but not your chances to win, when you're in a real game you will be disappointed to find out that your luck in the demo is not carried in the real game.

So it's wishful thinking to think that you have a good chance on the real game when you're having a good chance on a demo, sometimes it's better not to play in demo mode and just read the reviews of other players so you have nothing to hope for.

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November 04, 2023, 03:54:32 PM
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My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
If you always lose a game, do you still want to continue playing it? First, the popularization of game rules and the comfort of not having to worry about losing money make it easier for players to make different decisions to test features. But it's easy to apply it in practice, and as long as your money fluctuates, you will have different emotional states. But anyway, if you just bring it to a state of maintenance, I think there will be nothing to worry about. I'm worried, but the OP has admitted that he is a fan of gambling games, so I hope that you will have a clearer judgment about your next actions if you are not considered an addict.

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November 04, 2023, 04:08:27 PM
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There's no way to know that, you can't verify how legit is the game. It's why most people have a similar experience during using demo account, they get higher chance to win than the real slots. IMO, they're set a higher RTP rate or add different code in order to make you win more using demo accounts.

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November 04, 2023, 04:17:21 PM
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My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Demo mode and real mode has differences when it come to the rate it has been set up. I thought about this before and check why it's easier to win on demo mode and there are some websites who indicates this information as demo mode are only used for players to test the game and have fun. It's usually set up with easier and laid back rate for you to be able to hit most of the bonuses and experience it first hand before playing with your money so that you won't be surprised and know the mechanics of that certain slot game works.

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This isn't uncommon. When playing demo mode or 0 value bets oftentimes the interface will not connect to the provider's servers and therefore the randomness will be left to the casino's intentions. I do believe that it would be deceptive to increase winning chances when someone is playing on demo or without value in their bets, but unless a game is provably fair, there's very little that can be done about this.

If you care about guarantees in randomness then your selection of games is limited, because even when making bets with real cash, even when doing so from a trusted provider, you have to trust them to not cheat and there's no way that the randomness can be guaranteed in an irrefutable way. So if you want to go for provable randomness, then you can play dice, crash, hi lo or the few other games that are offered with provable fairness. And then you can verify that the casino won't know the outcome even yourself.

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Demo mode is just a fun mode or entertainment mode, I don't know if they made the same code with the real-time and demo mode and the only difference is the balance. When you play in the demo mode you don't need to worry about the money because as always it will replenish the funds and the system can give the number of possible profits just to give an idea to the users who want to try this game. But in real mode, it's different of course, and at the same time, you will now be conscious of the funds you are using every game.

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November 04, 2023, 05:07:12 PM
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the demo mode was designed with a better probability of winning by the developer to be able to hook players into playing on the platform and trying out a real account. with a system like this it will make players curious because on a demo account they can get more money, but on a real account it is quite difficult for them. it makes many players re-deposit on their accounts and try their luck again in the game, even though in the end they will lose.

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November 04, 2023, 05:17:32 PM
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It's a promotional thing, that makes the game more inviting to the gamblers so that they will be attracted to play.
I don't buy bonuses, I just let the game run. I did it before and I received the worst in so many times that I tried it. It became a learning point from that instant and afterwards, I didn't try to buy any bonuses anymore.
The RTP works in different ways, well that's according to my own experience. There are times the game will give you multiwins in normal spins while there will be times that it gives a lot during bonuses but they become rare to come out.
I'd check the runs if I were you. Try building your seed and see if it gives out super wins or not because in my case, there are seeds that went through 10k bets and yet they won't give anything as good as 200x. While there are seeds that could give way above x500 but seems unlucky most of the time to give out in normal spins. That's my observation from betting hundreds of thousands automatically.

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November 04, 2023, 05:20:46 PM
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My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Demo mode is like the appetizer used to whet the appetite of The Gambler so that they can have the hope is that if they win such a huge amount of money in the demo mode when in the life mood they could win more. This is just me thinking about it because it is business and demo mode is a way to test drive the game before actually playing it. It gives you a short thrill of winning.

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November 04, 2023, 05:23:13 PM
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My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
For me. it is really just that the same. It do really turns out that it is really that looking that you are winning that high or good chance on demo since you are really just that making high stakes
without even trying out to worry about such roll on which it would really be just that normal that you would really be having impressions that you are mostly likely to win up more
rather than on trying to make use of real live account or balance on which you would really be that so careful when making up some bets considering that you are really that using
real money and thats why on the time that it would be making up some losses specially on consecutive manner then you would really be ending up on having  that kind of impression.
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November 04, 2023, 05:24:17 PM
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I have seen a lot of people who see that kind of result, having more opportunistic rolls and high multiplier rolls in the demo mode rather than using actual money. I think it's to hype te people that are using it and make them feel that they have a chance to win and the edge on the demo mode is less compared to the live one. I think it's somewhere along those lines.
Definitely their way to attract gamblers and think that the game will give such big reward most of the time. It’s to hype the gamblers though the other purpose of demo option is to familiarize yourself about the game and this could be the other reason aside from hyping it. As a gambler, you should not rely on the result of your demo game, just rely on the actual and do your strategy based on your actual activities.

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November 04, 2023, 05:30:11 PM
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My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?

Demo games are meant only for new comers to test the casino and it must have beeinbmade in a way to entice them into just giving the real game a chance.

Sometimes when I don’t have money in my account and still want to just gamble I normally switch to demo and at the end of the game I’ll notice so many wins and even some that I have never bee in opportuned to win when I’m in the real game: so if you’re new to the site and after playing the demo you noticed a high amount of win you’d just want to give the real game a chance hoping you’ll make the same amount you did during the demo.

What i really observed is that during the demo games, the winning percentage is far better than play the actual games. I was thinking the reason for this and come to a conclusion that there could be possibilities that the gambling sites have 0% house edge for the Demo games, so people are able to win more and then they think of playing the real games. They may not know that they will have to face more loses in real gambling games because the house edge is usually increased in real games.

1% house edge is the minimum which the gambling houses claim but for some gimbling sites they may have more than 1% house edge and some may miscommunicate the house edge configured on their sites.

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November 04, 2023, 05:33:23 PM
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My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Theoretically it shouldn't work like this, because it ends becoming a misleading propaganda... It reminds me slots' apps from PlayStore where you play for free, but without involving real prizes. On those games, you are able to build a progressive bankroll on long term, which gets bigger and bigger if you manage it properly, unlocking several new styles of slots games. When you play those games, you feel really excited, because they are highly productive and rewarding (in a fictional way). So you feel tempted to try the real slot machines for money, as they must be the same thing.

Probably that is the deal for slots providers to configure the demo version to be so generous with their players.

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This is one of those questions that pops up on a regular basis here on gambling discussion but is difficult to answer.

without an open source algorithm ours are simply speculations... it is not possible to use objective data...
a number of plays tending towards infinity would be needed to have a real measure of this phenomenon something clearly impossible ...

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November 04, 2023, 08:00:32 PM
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My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?

Demo mode has a better RTP, which means you will win often, but not only that, demo mode was made to make the user experience the big win on that slot, that's why it is normal to open any slot on demo mode and get a crazy huge win in less than 50 spins.

What i found fun is to see players avoiding demo mode because they have the feeling that Demo takes their luck for those big fake wins.

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November 04, 2023, 08:04:00 PM
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I'm a big fan of slots and I have two or three favorite slots that I play usually. When it comes to RTP and risky slots I prefer Pragmatic as the provider. One interesting thing I have noticed is the difference in winning chances between playing in demo mode and live mode at casinos.

For example last week, I played several bonus buys on the popular Sweet Bonanza slot which is known among gamblers. I played on Coins.game but unfortunately, I lost my entire balance only getting returns of 10x to 120x at the most. To put it simply since maybe it'sduffrent than other slots, when buying a bonus with a minimum of $20, it effectively counts as a $0.2 entry and getting a 100x return means you win back $20 which is just 1x of your initial buy.

So because of this, I decided to try the demo mode on the original pragmatic website multiple times, (running over 100 sessions) and in all of them I have got at least one 200x returns every 10 bonus buys. Which is so different than live mode.

My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
You sure you played bonus buys on Pragmatic games in demo mode? I have tested many slots on demo mode and Pragmatic games don't have a bonus buy feature on the sites I have played on. They give you 100000 balance and you have to spin in.

Other providers such as Hacksaw and relax or no limit city have the bonus buy option.

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November 04, 2023, 08:11:58 PM
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You sure you played bonus buys on Pragmatic games in demo mode? I have tested many slots on demo mode and Pragmatic games don't have a bonus buy feature on the sites I have played on. They give you 100000 balance and you have to spin in.

Other providers such as Hacksaw and relax or no limit city have the bonus buy option.
Positive, I have tried every Pragmatic slot with the bonus buy feature and that’s why I mentioned this specifically :
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I decided to try the demo mode on the original pragmatic website multiple times

I believe you were trying to play the demo mode straight from casinos like; Stake which their demo mode doesn’t offer the bonus buy feature, probably due to not updating their demo modes to latest version maybe.

Here’s a link [1] straight to Sweet Bonanza from Pragmatic website try and let me know. I really want to confirm from slot players if the winning chance is much higher than live mode, unless if the settings are different it would be something is off.

[1] : https://www.pragmaticplay.com/en/games/sweet-bonanza-slot/#

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November 04, 2023, 08:17:37 PM
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This is one of those questions that pops up on a regular basis here on gambling discussion but is difficult to answer.

without an open source algorithm ours are simply speculations... it is not possible to use objective data...
a number of plays tending towards infinity would be needed to have a real measure of this phenomenon something clearly impossible ...

Unfortunately this is true.I have played maximum several hours to collect data on that specific slot the OP is asking as that is the maximum time I have to spend on playing the slot and the results more often than not have been more positive in the demo.This may be is because I have this belief that when we play without stress and we don't care that we can lose all the money the slot behaves and performs better,this though remains only a superstition of mine.

The only ones who can answer this are Pragmatic themselves but when I wanted to contact them for a complain they needed me to be a company or they don't reply to personal requests.In the end it remains pure randomness.

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November 04, 2023, 08:30:16 PM
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You sure you played bonus buys on Pragmatic games in demo mode? I have tested many slots on demo mode and Pragmatic games don't have a bonus buy feature on the sites I have played on. They give you 100000 balance and you have to spin in.

Other providers such as Hacksaw and relax or no limit city have the bonus buy option.
Positive, I have tried every Pragmatic slot with the bonus buy feature and that’s why I mentioned this specifically :
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I decided to try the demo mode on the original pragmatic website multiple times

I believe you were trying to play the demo mode straight from casinos like; Stake which their demo mode doesn’t offer the bonus buy feature, probably due to not updating their demo modes to latest version maybe.

Here’s a link [1] straight to Sweet Bonanza from Pragmatic website try and let me know. I really want to confirm from slot players if the winning chance is much higher than live mode, unless if the settings are different it would be something is off.

[1] : https://www.pragmaticplay.com/en/games/sweet-bonanza-slot/#
You are correct, I never thought of playing directly from the provider. I will say though that the point of a demo is for you to try the game. They are going to want a person to experience all the features a game has to offer. Highs and lows. The goal is to make you want to spend real money.

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