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[delfastTions]

We create problems for ourselves, it's not the casino's fault because we gamble. It would be nice if everyone was responsible, but that will never happen. I guess we can say that is impossible, there will always be people who will want more, stronger, and faster. That's probably true for most of us, and only when we make a mistake and get hurt we learn, that's just how it goes. And of course, there will always be people who never learn... and such people are eaten by addiction sooner or later. It's all up to us, either we learn something and try to be smarter and more responsible, or we let something destroy us.

I would expand your idea a little that the players themselves act as they see fit when they participate in gambling.  I would like to note that only very experienced players are able to almost completely suppress theuir emotions from the game and this allows them to adhere to a strict logic of actions.  But the majority of players are still not such professionals and they naturally play in a state of euphoria.  And this, in turn, very often makes their moves in the game emotional and even stupid.  In general, in general, I think that the majority of players are stupider when they play in this state.  By the way, this allows them to lose more often, compared to players who   are still able to maintain composure and logic of actions.  But let’s be objective, this fact is an emotional tie in the game and allows casinos to be a little more profitable and the gambling business itself is thriving, partly due to the fact that millions of people are becoming stupid and losing their logic during the game. 
But everyone gets unforgettable emotions and fun.

When you are still newbie then you would really be having that kind of impression that you are really that seeing yourself that could easily be able to win up gambling. You would really be making yourself having that kind of involvement and you would really be playing just because you do really believe that you could achieve something like this. On the time that you are already losing that much
then this is where you do make out realization that its never been that realistic or something not that possible. Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself on good control.
Several factors on which it do really make you that desperate and this is something that you should really be avoiding or trying out to avoid as much as possible.
If you do tolerate out these things then you are really that susceptible to failures.

I think that people learn patience and common sense in gambling in very different ways.  And they also learn to find a balance between their emotions and the state of euphoria and the logic of actions in a gambling game.  If a person who has become a player quickly learns to find such a balance in his psychological state, then this will further ensure that he will play and learn the maximum pleasure from the game. 
If the process of finding balance takes a long time, then such a  player may indeed become completely disillusioned with gambling and may either stop playing, or, alternatively, become a gambling addict who must be forcibly excommnunicated from gambling.

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[Fivestar4everMVP]

We create problems for ourselves, it's not the casino's fault because we gamble. It would be nice if everyone was responsible, but that will never happen. I guess we can say that is impossible, there will always be people who will want more, stronger, and faster. That's probably true for most of us, and only when we make a mistake and get hurt we learn, that's just how it goes. And of course, there will always be people who never learn... and such people are eaten by addiction sooner or later. It's all up to us, either we learn something and try to be smarter and more responsible, or we let something destroy us.

I would expand your idea a little that the players themselves act as they see fit when they participate in gambling.  I would like to note that only very experienced players are able to almost completely suppress theuir emotions from the game and this allows them to adhere to a strict logic of actions.  But the majority of players are still not such professionals and they naturally play in a state of euphoria.  And this, in turn, very often makes their moves in the game emotional and even stupid.  In general, in general, I think that the majority of players are stupider when they play in this state.  By the way, this allows them to lose more often, compared to players who   are still able to maintain composure and logic of actions.  But let’s be objective, this fact is an emotional tie in the game and allows casinos to be a little more profitable and the gambling business itself is thriving, partly due to the fact that millions of people are becoming stupid and losing their logic during the game. 
But everyone gets unforgettable emotions and fun.

When you are still newbie then you would really be having that kind of impression that you are really that seeing yourself that could easily be able to win up gambling. You would really be making yourself having that kind of involvement and you would really be playing just because you do really believe that you could achieve something like this. On the time that you are already losing that much
then this is where you do make out realization that its never been that realistic or something not that possible. Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself on good control.
Several factors on which it do really make you that desperate and this is something that you should really be avoiding or trying out to avoid as much as possible.
If you do tolerate out these things then you are really that susceptible to failures.

I think that people learn patience and common sense in gambling in very different ways.  And they also learn to find a balance between their emotions and the state of euphoria and the logic of actions in a gambling game.  If a person who has become a player quickly learns to find such a balance in his psychological state, then this will further ensure that he will play and learn the maximum pleasure from the game. 
If the process of finding balance takes a long time, then such a  player may indeed become completely disillusioned with gambling and may either stop playing, or, alternatively, become a gambling addict who must be forcibly excommnunicated from gambling.

I think you are right, completely agree with, like we have discussed in another thread on this board or the gambling discussion board, many who came into gambling didn't do so on their own, majority started gambling because of the kind of money they saw another gambler win, or were told about it, and this made the person to decide to try out gambling since he or she will also like to win such an amount of money too.

And from my own personal experience, newbie gamblers are highly spirited, highly confident in believe that they would win, this pushes most of them to risking far more than they can afford to lose, it's only a matter of time, they will discover that winning in gambling is not as easy as they thought it was, and by this time, they come back to their sense that gambling aside being an activity that requires luck to profit, it also requires patients and open mindedness.

But this is if by this realization, such a person is not addicted yet, for the person who is addicted already, they may never come to this sense until help comes thier way.

[slapper]

We create problems for ourselves, it's not the casino's fault because we gamble. It would be nice if everyone was responsible, but that will never happen. I guess we can say that is impossible, there will always be people who will want more, stronger, and faster. That's probably true for most of us, and only when we make a mistake and get hurt we learn, that's just how it goes. And of course, there will always be people who never learn... and such people are eaten by addiction sooner or later. It's all up to us, either we learn something and try to be smarter and more responsible, or we let something destroy us.

I would expand your idea a little that the players themselves act as they see fit when they participate in gambling.  I would like to note that only very experienced players are able to almost completely suppress theuir emotions from the game and this allows them to adhere to a strict logic of actions.  But the majority of players are still not such professionals and they naturally play in a state of euphoria.  And this, in turn, very often makes their moves in the game emotional and even stupid.  In general, in general, I think that the majority of players are stupider when they play in this state.  By the way, this allows them to lose more often, compared to players who   are still able to maintain composure and logic of actions.  But let’s be objective, this fact is an emotional tie in the game and allows casinos to be a little more profitable and the gambling business itself is thriving, partly due to the fact that millions of people are becoming stupid and losing their logic during the game. 
But everyone gets unforgettable emotions and fun.

When you are still newbie then you would really be having that kind of impression that you are really that seeing yourself that could easily be able to win up gambling. You would really be making yourself having that kind of involvement and you would really be playing just because you do really believe that you could achieve something like this. On the time that you are already losing that much
then this is where you do make out realization that its never been that realistic or something not that possible. Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself on good control.
Several factors on which it do really make you that desperate and this is something that you should really be avoiding or trying out to avoid as much as possible.
If you do tolerate out these things then you are really that susceptible to failures.

I think that people learn patience and common sense in gambling in very different ways.  And they also learn to find a balance between their emotions and the state of euphoria and the logic of actions in a gambling game.  If a person who has become a player quickly learns to find such a balance in his psychological state, then this will further ensure that he will play and learn the maximum pleasure from the game. 
If the process of finding balance takes a long time, then such a  player may indeed become completely disillusioned with gambling and may either stop playing, or, alternatively, become a gambling addict who must be forcibly excommnunicated from gambling.

Without a doubt, gambling does provide a unique opportunity for people to foster patience and a balance between euphoria and reason. Although steep, this learning curve is necessary. By quickly mastering this balance, gamblers learn how to control themselves better, which makes the experience more enjoyable and fulfilling. Ignoring the other side, though, is not an option. This constant search for balance can, in fact, lead to disappointment or, even worse, addiction. When walking on a wire, mistakes can have very bad results. Although the path to developing self-control in gaming is dangerous, it is also the place where the most important lessons are learned

[coupable]

How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.

This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

[Youngkhngdiddy]

Without a doubt, gambling does provide a unique opportunity for people to foster patience and a balance between euphoria and reason. Although steep, this learning curve is necessary. By quickly mastering this balance, gamblers learn how to control themselves better, which makes the experience more enjoyable and fulfilling. Ignoring the other side, though, is not an option. This constant search for balance can, in fact, lead to disappointment or, even worse, addiction. When walking on a wire, mistakes can have very bad results. Although the path to developing self-control in gaming is dangerous, it is also the place where the most important lessons are learned

  Gambling addiction is shit basically, awful, and it only gets worse as time goes on. They say it’s a progressive illness and it sure is. Addiction blocks emotions, it suppresses them so much you don’t ‘fee’ anything, only when you gamble, it takes you away from you, and your problems and then gives you a hundred more. 12 STEP meetings and counseling are a great way forward and help you to bond and connect with others who have the same issues, to relate and try and make sense of the why’s and get some great support.
  But the onus is on the addict…addicts can only save themselves. We try sometimes to save other people, when we are the one’s in need. You have to turn inward with an addiction and help and learn to love yourself in order not to need it anymore, a task impossible until you receive that gift from other’s. You have to come out of hiding, and talk, unload all the shit that’s been holding you down and try your hardest to move forward.

[Odusko]

I think you are right, completely agree with, like we have discussed in another thread on this board or the gambling discussion board, many who came into gambling didn't do so on their own, majority started gambling because of the kind of money they saw another gambler win, or were told about it, and this made the person to decide to try out gambling since he or she will also like to win such an amount of money too.

And from my own personal experience, newbie gamblers are highly spirited, highly confident in believe that they would win, this pushes most of them to risking far more than they can afford to lose, it's only a matter of time, they will discover that winning in gambling is not as easy as they thought it was, and by this time, they come back to their sense that gambling aside being an activity that requires luck to profit, it also requires patients and open mindedness.

But this is if by this realization, such a person is not addicted yet, for the person who is addicted already, they may never come to this sense until help comes thier way.

A lot of times many of us are motivated by what we see or hear from others, and in my country,  many gamblers have been birth through promotion and advertisements people who have won large amounts from gambling and this is what has inspired many to even try gambling in the first place, but much more also, we have to agree with the fact that, having such mindset toward gambling may likely lead to frustration and possible lose that may become uncontrollable since what motivates them in the first place is the success story of another person and without putting their luck into check also, sometimes most of this forks are motivated by they friends and close pals that always put they winning to the face of the newbie which will at the end get his attention and possible trials in the long run.

[Oilacris]

Without a doubt, gambling does provide a unique opportunity for people to foster patience and a balance between euphoria and reason. Although steep, this learning curve is necessary. By quickly mastering this balance, gamblers learn how to control themselves better, which makes the experience more enjoyable and fulfilling. Ignoring the other side, though, is not an option. This constant search for balance can, in fact, lead to disappointment or, even worse, addiction. When walking on a wire, mistakes can have very bad results. Although the path to developing self-control in gaming is dangerous, it is also the place where the most important lessons are learned

  Gambling addiction is shit basically, awful, and it only gets worse as time goes on. They say it’s a progressive illness and it sure is. Addiction blocks emotions, it suppresses them so much you don’t ‘fee’ anything, only when you gamble, it takes you away from you, and your problems and then gives you a hundred more. 12 STEP meetings and counseling are a great way forward and help you to bond and connect with others who have the same issues, to relate and try and make sense of the why’s and get some great support.
  But the onus is on the addict…addicts can only save themselves. We try sometimes to save other people, when we are the one’s in need. You have to turn inward with an addiction and help and learn to love yourself in order not to need it anymore, a task impossible until you receive that gift from other’s. You have to come out of hiding, and talk, unload all the shit that’s been holding you down and try your hardest to move forward.

This is why it would really be that important that on the time that you do gamble then you should really gamble for fun but in the sense that you are really that having a good control
towards your gambling activity because if you do really find out yourself to be that impulsive or cant really be able to make our some well decision then expect that there would
really be some potential problems that might rise up and this is something that you should really be avoiding. Getting addicted would most likely specially on the duration that you are playing,
yes you do play for fun but in the sense that you are doing this on day by day then you are really that indeed susceptible to potential addiction.

When it hits? Then it would really be that hard to get out and this is why you should really be careful on what you are dealing off with if you dont like to mess up.

[Dunamisx]

How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.

This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.

[blockman]

Under age gambling is what both online and offline casinos don't joke with and some times why the government are so strict on gambling licensing os because of the KYC implementation which will help to expose any possible under-age registration and from the document verification you will be sure to be able to cash up with any of such possibility of underage.

Also, this is a hard battle for them because they won't determine if the verifications and IDs sent to them is the actual owner and that's why they are being stricter with such policies as for holding the ids and selfies. Because kids can just ask their parents to do it if they have the consent but as long as they have their own measures in doing it, there's no problem at all and they are only complying to the rules of the government that's being placed on them.

The cosino have the sole right to request for verification from the gambler anytime they feels that the gambler may be an under age and since government laws already cover that aspect is much essential for casinos to comply with that law at all time to avoid sanctioning.

Yeah, if they feel that there's something wrong on that account. They're free to do it as that's their own platform and they're the kings of it. Asking for additional verifications and IDs is typically happening in every casino that we know of.

[LUCKMCFLY]

So, if you consider this, you will realize that it is still the same, it's like running around in circles, what would have been if there was no addiction is what that is currently is, because there was and is never a time there wouldn't have been addiction in gambling.

You're right. @Betwrong is being idealistic in this case expecting stuff which will never happen because humans are inherently greedy and that is why gambling addiction will never fully go away.

However, it can be minimised to a certain extent which is exactly what op is trying to do through his project.

Come in mind that if there were no gambling addiction then gambling industry wont really be that become so big or something that not making that much revenue on which this is something
turns out to be a typical thing or a solid indication that addiction is always been that part of industry. There might be some people who do able to control their addiction or motive towards gambling but there would be always those people who get addicted into it on which it would really be that resulting into that huge spending into it on which it would be coming into a point
that you are really that losing that much.

Guides and tips on how to treat up addiction could really be found online or even making use of these free services or whatsoever but still in the end,
it would really be that totally depending on how they would really be dealing up with things and make out decisions on their own.

You are right, I personally would say that the addiction problems are not primarily the fault of the Casinos, the casinos are companies, they are businesses and they have the businesses because they want to generate money, in this case they make a lot of money  , but they also need players, and especially young players are taught, it is known that when a player falls into addiction it is difficult for him to return once he no longer has money, and that is not the idea, it is more common that there is a person who always has money, controls himself and always be the casino customer, because it is more money that goes to the casino, I say this Taking into consideration the house advantage and the considerations that are like the complexity of the same game that is Chosen to play, which is very different from sports betting that already depends on other factors that are beyond the advantage of lacquers, but even so the casino will always have a way to win with sports Betting, in this order of ideas, I see the problem of addiction not as It is not a casino or an industry that does not exist like this, but it is only the consequence of the very Player who becomes like this, of losing control at that point.

A person is different from many, everyone has their personality and knows how they react to different events, one person can solve a problem in a more orderly way than another, but it takes longer, another is messy but solves a problem quickly, the same thing happens. When a person becomes addicted, but this person wants to get better, then he follows the instructions given to him, because he does his part, because he knows that in the end it will harm him , but there are those who are in addiction, they do not take the advice of Nobody, neither from the proefeisnoales nor from any type of aid, why? because we all have our own Personality and we know how to act in the face of these, hence the consideration that each of us knows how we are and how we can quickly get out of that problem if we do not want to solve it and be with the problem.

[Oilacris]

So, if you consider this, you will realize that it is still the same, it's like running around in circles, what would have been if there was no addiction is what that is currently is, because there was and is never a time there wouldn't have been addiction in gambling.

You're right. @Betwrong is being idealistic in this case expecting stuff which will never happen because humans are inherently greedy and that is why gambling addiction will never fully go away.

However, it can be minimised to a certain extent which is exactly what op is trying to do through his project.

Come in mind that if there were no gambling addiction then gambling industry wont really be that become so big or something that not making that much revenue on which this is something
turns out to be a typical thing or a solid indication that addiction is always been that part of industry. There might be some people who do able to control their addiction or motive towards gambling but there would be always those people who get addicted into it on which it would really be that resulting into that huge spending into it on which it would be coming into a point
that you are really that losing that much.

Guides and tips on how to treat up addiction could really be found online or even making use of these free services or whatsoever but still in the end,
it would really be that totally depending on how they would really be dealing up with things and make out decisions on their own.

You are right, I personally would say that the addiction problems are not primarily the fault of the Casinos, the casinos are companies, they are businesses and they have the businesses because they want to generate money, in this case they make a lot of money  , but they also need players, and especially young players are taught, it is known that when a player falls into addiction it is difficult for him to return once he no longer has money, and that is not the idea, it is more common that there is a person who always has money, controls himself and always be the casino customer, because it is more money that goes to the casino, I say this Taking into consideration the house advantage and the considerations that are like the complexity of the same game that is Chosen to play, which is very different from sports betting that already depends on other factors that are beyond the advantage of lacquers, but even so the casino will always have a way to win with sports Betting, in this order of ideas, I see the problem of addiction not as It is not a casino or an industry that does not exist like this, but it is only the consequence of the very Player who becomes like this, of losing control at that point.

A person is different from many, everyone has their personality and knows how they react to different events, one person can solve a problem in a more orderly way than another, but it takes longer, another is messy but solves a problem quickly, the same thing happens. When a person becomes addicted, but this person wants to get better, then he follows the instructions given to him, because he does his part, because he knows that in the end it will harm him , but there are those who are in addiction, they do not take the advice of Nobody, neither from the proefeisnoales nor from any type of aid, why? because we all have our own Personality and we know how to act in the face of these, hence the consideration that each of us knows how we are and how we can quickly get out of that problem if we do not want to solve it and be with the problem.

People do really loves on giving out blame to other things on which they would really be always having that denial that they are the ones who are at mistake. They would really be
denying as much as they could. No one would really be able to help yourself if you are that minding about gambling in the first place.You would really be looking for yourself
to play no matter what and there's no service or platforms or whatever institution that would be able to help out such addiction. There are really some advises or online
tools or similar that might be helpful but in the end of the day, it would really be that still depending on you.

[paxmao]

So, if you consider this, you will realize that it is still the same, it's like running around in circles, what would have been if there was no addiction is what that is currently is, because there was and is never a time there wouldn't have been addiction in gambling.

You're right. @Betwrong is being idealistic in this case expecting stuff which will never happen because humans are inherently greedy and that is why gambling addiction will never fully go away.

However, it can be minimised to a certain extent which is exactly what op is trying to do through his project.

Come in mind that if there were no gambling addiction then gambling industry wont really be that become so big or something that not making that much revenue on which this is something
turns out to be a typical thing or a solid indication that addiction is always been that part of industry. There might be some people who do able to control their addiction or motive towards gambling but there would be always those people who get addicted into it on which it would really be that resulting into that huge spending into it on which it would be coming into a point
that you are really that losing that much.

Guides and tips on how to treat up addiction could really be found online or even making use of these free services or whatsoever but still in the end,
it would really be that totally depending on how they would really be dealing up with things and make out decisions on their own.

You are right, I personally would say that the addiction problems are not primarily the fault of the Casinos, the casinos are companies, they are businesses and they have the businesses because they want to generate money, in this case they make a lot of money  , but they also need players, and especially young players are taught, it is known that when a player falls into addiction it is difficult for him to return once he no longer has money, and that is not the idea, it is more common that there is a person who always has money, controls himself and always be the casino customer, because it is more money that goes to the casino, I say this Taking into consideration the house advantage and the considerations that are like the complexity of the same game that is Chosen to play, which is very different from sports betting that already depends on other factors that are beyond the advantage of lacquers, but even so the casino will always have a way to win with sports Betting, in this order of ideas, I see the problem of addiction not as It is not a casino or an industry that does not exist like this, but it is only the consequence of the very Player who becomes like this, of losing control at that point.

A person is different from many, everyone has their personality and knows how they react to different events, one person can solve a problem in a more orderly way than another, but it takes longer, another is messy but solves a problem quickly, the same thing happens. When a person becomes addicted, but this person wants to get better, then he follows the instructions given to him, because he does his part, because he knows that in the end it will harm him , but there are those who are in addiction, they do not take the advice of Nobody, neither from the proefeisnoales nor from any type of aid, why? because we all have our own Personality and we know how to act in the face of these, hence the consideration that each of us knows how we are and how we can quickly get out of that problem if we do not want to solve it and be with the problem.

People do really loves on giving out blame to other things on which they would really be always having that denial that they are the ones who are at mistake. They would really be
denying as much as they could. No one would really be able to help yourself if you are that minding about gambling in the first place.You would really be looking for yourself
to play no matter what and there's no service or platforms or whatever institution that would be able to help out such addiction. There are really some advises or online
tools or similar that might be helpful but in the end of the day, it would really be that still depending on you.

People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty, so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation. You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.

[dezoel]

I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.

I don't think that the negative connotation stops people from gambling or makes new gamblers stay away from it, so that isn't a reason why casinos would want everyone to become responsible gamblers but they would want every gambler to keep spending as much money as they can because they know once the money has entered their bankroll, there is nothing that can take it away from them even if the gambler starts spreading negative news about them.

Casinos, their owners, and the management barely care about gamblers' sentiments or their personal lives. All they care about is their businesses and they are not wrong about that. If I were running a business, I would surely want every customer to come and use my business and products as much as possible since that will bring more revenue for me and my business.

[rodskee]

How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.

This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.

of course every gamblers will be on their watch or at least those who are interested in
seeking help , we cannot force people doing things and even more that we cannot prevent people from
 gambling but at least the initiative is to let people have better understanding and deep knowledge
about gambling.

Under age gambling is what both online and offline casinos don't joke with and some times why the government are so strict on gambling licensing os because of the KYC implementation which will help to expose any possible under-age registration and from the document verification you will be sure to be able to cash up with any of such possibility of underage.

Also, this is a hard battle for them because they won't determine if the verifications and IDs sent to them is the actual owner and that's why they are being stricter with such policies as for holding the ids and selfies. Because kids can just ask their parents to do it if they have the consent but as long as they have their own measures in doing it, there's no problem at all and they are only complying to the rules of the government that's being placed on them.

The cosino have the sole right to request for verification from the gambler anytime they feels that the gambler may be an under age and since government laws already cover that aspect is much essential for casinos to comply with that law at all time to avoid sanctioning.

Yeah, if they feel that there's something wrong on that account. They're free to do it as that's their own platform and they're the kings of it. Asking for additional verifications and IDs is typically happening in every casino that we know of.

Under age gambling is what both online and offline casinos don't joke with and some times why the government are so strict on gambling licensing os because of the KYC implementation which will help to expose any possible under-age registration and from the document verification you will be sure to be able to cash up with any of such possibility of underage.

Also, this is a hard battle for them because they won't determine if the verifications and IDs sent to them is the actual owner and that's why they are being stricter with such policies as for holding the ids and selfies. Because kids can just ask their parents to do it if they have the consent but as long as they have their own measures in doing it, there's no problem at all and they are only complying to the rules of the government that's being placed on them.

The cosino have the sole right to request for verification from the gambler anytime they feels that the gambler may be an under age and since government laws already cover that aspect is much essential for casinos to comply with that law at all time to avoid sanctioning.

Yeah, if they feel that there's something wrong on that account. They're free to do it as that's their own platform and they're the kings of it. Asking for additional verifications and IDs is typically happening in every casino that we know of.

Thats it , How can they be so sure that the details sent is from the one they wanted to provide?
because nowadays it is easy to send ID's or even pretend it was them because of High technology.

[michellee]

Under age gambling is what both online and offline casinos don't joke with and some times why the government are so strict on gambling licensing os because of the KYC implementation which will help to expose any possible under-age registration and from the document verification you will be sure to be able to cash up with any of such possibility of underage.

Also, this is a hard battle for them because they won't determine if the verifications and IDs sent to them is the actual owner and that's why they are being stricter with such policies as for holding the ids and selfies. Because kids can just ask their parents to do it if they have the consent but as long as they have their own measures in doing it, there's no problem at all and they are only complying to the rules of the government that's being placed on them.

Children can verify simply by borrowing the identity of their parents or other adults. They may also have a photo of their parents' ID so they can verify it directly on the casino site. The casino won't know because the kids have already given up their identities. And the casino will agree to the verification.

This will enable children to gamble easily, especially if they know how to deposit and withdraw money. That may be one of the reasons why casinos implement KYC on their sites to avoid underage children registering. Even though it can't stop these children from registering, at least the casino has implemented or followed the rules set by the regulator.

The casinos are not to blame because they also do not require those children or even adults to register with their casinos. This is where parents play a role in being able to monitor their children when they use devices connected to the internet.

[so98nn]

Under age gambling is what both online and offline casinos don't joke with and some times why the government are so strict on gambling licensing os because of the KYC implementation which will help to expose any possible under-age registration and from the document verification you will be sure to be able to cash up with any of such possibility of underage.

Also, this is a hard battle for them because they won't determine if the verifications and IDs sent to them is the actual owner and that's why they are being stricter with such policies as for holding the ids and selfies. Because kids can just ask their parents to do it if they have the consent but as long as they have their own measures in doing it, there's no problem at all and they are only complying to the rules of the government that's being placed on them.

Children can verify simply by borrowing the identity of their parents or other adults. They may also have a photo of their parents' ID so they can verify it directly on the casino site. The casino won't know because the kids have already given up their identities. And the casino will agree to the verification.

This will enable children to gamble easily, especially if they know how to deposit and withdraw money. That may be one of the reasons why casinos implement KYC on their sites to avoid underage children registering. Even though it can't stop these children from registering, at least the casino has implemented or followed the rules set by the regulator.

The casinos are not to blame because they also do not require those children or even adults to register with their casinos. This is where parents play a role in being able to monitor their children when they use devices connected to the internet.

In the USA, this can be safely avoided with the SSN. Most of the casinos ask for an SSN and the OTP verification on the SSN-affiliated phone number follows that. Isn't this something that can secure children from registering on the casino? I think other countries are more vulnerable to such scams from happening. For example, in tier 3 countries the KYC's are easy to get and the illiteracy rate can make things worse for the parents and children. I mean even 16-year-olds can get their hands on their parent's phone, and easily get the KYC done with the OTPs. However, for the USA things could be very strict. It may not be that accessible for their children to get their hands on their parent's phone. I am not making any assumptions here, but it seems only proper guidance to our children can make things good for them. Maybe a strict environment where they understand the risk of getting involved with such things or websites.

[Accardo]

I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.

I don't think that the negative connotation stops people from gambling or makes new gamblers stay away from it, so that isn't a reason why casinos would want everyone to become responsible gamblers but they would want every gambler to keep spending as much money as they can because they know once the money has entered their bankroll, there is nothing that can take it away from them even if the gambler starts spreading negative news about them.

Casinos, their owners, and the management barely care about gamblers' sentiments or their personal lives. All they care about is their businesses and they are not wrong about that. If I were running a business, I would surely want every customer to come and use my business and products as much as possible since that will bring more revenue for me and my business.

The reason is because the casino have rules, everyone believes an adult should be responsible for their actions or decision. It's not that they don't care about addicted players. Casinos work hard not to accept a banned addict into their casino. Mainly in online casino. Yet players always have numerous methods of bypassing these restrictions. It's the duty of players to gamble reasonably and not fall victim of problem gambling. The casino won't be there to assist anybody to stop playing gambling. That's why OP's website is crucial in changing the lives of addicted players. Not sure if addicted players affects the gambling traffic. Instead it gives it more publicity. Without gambling addiction, the society will honor the business, and maybe a huge number of people would have joined. But, that's not a good idea of any business. It will only reduce the value of gambling and thereby pump money at the initial stage, then later the same people will prefer to stop. Gambling can't be for all the people. Whether it provides less addiction or not. Moreover, people must get addicted to something. No way gambling addiction won't exist, when there is sport addiction. People who must watch a football match to be happy. It's better to have a traffic we can control and satisfy via customer service, than an uncontrollable traffic. Casinos still make money, from both addicts and responsible players.

[passwordnow]

People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty

I guess it's a normal thing when we feel guilty, we try to find some holes that we can reason out for that mistake we've made.

so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation.

Exactly. There's no problem if we make mistakes as that happens for sometimes but it won't be normal anymore if we keep making mistakes. But other than that, when we make mistakes, it's also fine to admit it and then just do our best to correct it.

You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.

Just be the better version of yourself. Sometimes when we can't forgive ourselves, we're staying to that part that we can't do better because we keep on dwelling in the past and that makes us stuck there. I agree that someone who's struggling to quit just need to admit first that you made a mistake, you're addicted to gambling and then try to do something to move on and make use of your time for some other things.

[EarnOnVictor]

I think you are right, completely agree with, like we have discussed in another thread on this board or the gambling discussion board, many who came into gambling didn't do so on their own, majority started gambling because of the kind of money they saw another gambler win, or were told about it, and this made the person to decide to try out gambling since he or she will also like to win such an amount of money too.

And from my own personal experience, newbie gamblers are highly spirited, highly confident in believe that they would win, this pushes most of them to risking far more than they can afford to lose, it's only a matter of time, they will discover that winning in gambling is not as easy as they thought it was, and by this time, they come back to their sense that gambling aside being an activity that requires luck to profit, it also requires patients and open mindedness.

But this is if by this realization, such a person is not addicted yet, for the person who is addicted already, they may never come to this sense until help comes thier way.

A lot of times many of us are motivated by what we see or hear from others, and in my country,  many gamblers have been birth through promotion and advertisements people who have won large amounts from gambling and this is what has inspired many to even try gambling in the first place, but much more also, we have to agree with the fact that, having such mindset toward gambling may likely lead to frustration and possible lose that may become uncontrollable since what motivates them in the first place is the success story of another person and without putting their luck into check also, sometimes most of this forks are motivated by they friends and close pals that always put they winning to the face of the newbie which will at the end get his attention and possible trials in the long run.

This is a typical example of people who do not have their own mind, they are easily cajoled with what to see, hear or are being influenced by. But those who have their own minds, let me call it a strong mind, will be reading and hearing all those and be smiling and moving away. They will only engage in such if they want to and not because of what the influencers or advertisers say. But really, the temptation of the marketers/influencers is much and could be so irresistible, especially if the company is running promos. There are some promos that personally motivate me, but the terms and conditions attached to them often send me back to my normal self. This is why I hardly gamble with promos/bonuses, I like to use my own money so that I play with my own freedom as well.

Above all in relation to your concluding part, if anyone has a bad mindset about gambling due to advertisements and the rest thinking they lured him into it, then the person is not mature. As an adult, you are free to decide maybe you agree or decline, no one is forcing anyone, and if you agree to gamble conditions, then it's all on you, which is why you have to know what you are signing for and then try your best to gamble and win. After all, some people are still winning in gambling.

[Dunamisx]

I think you are right, completely agree with, like we have discussed in another thread on this board or the gambling discussion board, many who came into gambling didn't do so on their own, majority started gambling because of the kind of money they saw another gambler win, or were told about it, and this made the person to decide to try out gambling since he or she will also like to win such an amount of money too.

And from my own personal experience, newbie gamblers are highly spirited, highly confident in believe that they would win, this pushes most of them to risking far more than they can afford to lose, it's only a matter of time, they will discover that winning in gambling is not as easy as they thought it was, and by this time, they come back to their sense that gambling aside being an activity that requires luck to profit, it also requires patients and open mindedness.

But this is if by this realization, such a person is not addicted yet, for the person who is addicted already, they may never come to this sense until help comes thier way.

A lot of times many of us are motivated by what we see or hear from others, and in my country,  many gamblers have been birth through promotion and advertisements people who have won large amounts from gambling and this is what has inspired many to even try gambling in the first place, but much more also, we have to agree with the fact that, having such mindset toward gambling may likely lead to frustration and possible lose that may become uncontrollable since what motivates them in the first place is the success story of another person and without putting their luck into check also, sometimes most of this forks are motivated by they friends and close pals that always put they winning to the face of the newbie which will at the end get his attention and possible trials in the long run.

This is a typical example of people who do not have their own mind, they are easily cajoled with what to see, hear or are being influenced by. But those who have their own minds, let me call it a strong mind, will be reading and hearing all those and be smiling and moving away. They will only engage in such if they want to and not because of what the influencers or advertisers say. But really, the temptation of the marketers/influencers is much and could be so irresistible, especially if the company is running promos. There are some promos that personally motivate me, but the terms and conditions attached to them often send me back to my normal self. This is why I hardly gamble with promos/bonuses, I like to use my own money so that I play with my own freedom as well.

Above all in relation to your concluding part, if anyone has a bad mindset about gambling due to advertisements and the rest thinking they lured him into it, then the person is not mature. As an adult, you are free to decide maybe you agree or decline, no one is forcing anyone, and if you agree to gamble conditions, then it's all on you, which is why you have to know what you are signing for and then try your best to gamble and win. After all, some people are still winning in gambling.

We often go by what we see because there's more of efforts shown in them which we also appreciates, then from there we proceed further in choosing to listen to them, and before we know it  we are giving a try already because we have gambling as a point of being entertained and the first encounter we also had become an irresistible one, this is how it al just started and before we could realize, we are already going far.