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Hi Everyone!
I wanted to share a project that I've been part of. 5 years ago, I changed course from being a casino affiliate to working with problem gambling. It's been a project full of challenges, happiness, tears, and fighting. I wanted to do something different, and I saw how many people struggle.

QuitGamble.com is an online platform and mobile app to help people with gambling problems. The platform is free to use, and members get access to:
  • Video Courses
  • Extensive Guides
  • A community with +6500 members
  • Chat, Forum and Support Groups
  • Mobile App

Everything on QuitGamble.com is built from a problem gambler's perspective. We don't talk about responsible gambling, which many other organizations who claim to work with problem gambling do. For us, there is no such thing as RG for someone with gambling problems. (Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)

The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, French and Portuguese.

If you're curious about our project, please feel free to reach out. I would be happy to receive any feedback, both positive and negative. If you have a gambling problem, I would recommend you take a look at our how to stop gambling addiction guide. It's a step-by-step process that will put you on a new track.


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November 05, 2023, 07:27:26 AM
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Everything on QuitGamble.com is built from a problem gambler's perspective. We don't talk about responsible gambling, which many other organizations who claim to work with problem gambling do. For us, there is no such thing as RG for someone with gambling problems. (Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)


At least you came so real trying to solve a problem that's not solvable, not like other platforms that claim that everything that has to do with gambling is bad and as such people should stay away from it. I guess there was one such topic here in the gambling section, if I can remember correctly.
 
I have not checked your site yet, but I will do so one of these days to see the details myself, so I can recommend it to anyone who needs to get off the addiction page.
 
In everything that has an advantage, there is always a disadvantage. One can always choose to be on the positive side and continue to gamble responsibly, which will also contribute to his mental growth. Those who choose to turn their gambling life into a hobby instead of doing it for fun are chasing after big wins, which leads them right into getting addicted. Those kinds of people are the reason why most people see gambling as a bad influence.

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November 05, 2023, 07:59:42 AM
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At least you came so real trying to solve a problem that's not solvable, not like other platforms that claim that everything that has to do with gambling is bad and as such people should stay away from it.
Did you see the URL? QuitGamble.com Which means you should quit gambling.

I have not checked your site yet, but I will do so one of these days to see the details myself, so I can recommend it to anyone who needs to get off the addiction page.
You have not checked the site and you make conclusion. I only read the introductory path which has no complete information and I may not be exactly be correct either. The introductory path does not talk about quitting though.

People that want people to quit addiction want addicted people to stop doing that thing that makes them addicted, like to stop smoking or gambling. It is better to stop than to continue to be addicted.

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November 05, 2023, 08:17:23 AM
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You have not checked the site and you make conclusion. I only read the introductory path which has no complete information and I may not be exactly be correct either. The introductory path does not talk about quitting though.

I have not gone through the entire site details, but I made a quick preview of how to stop gambling addiction from the link provided in the OP.

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People that want people to quit addiction want addicted people to stop doing that thing that makes them addicted, like to stop smoking or gambling. It is better to stop than to continue to be addicted.

Too much of everything is bad, but being in control of whatever you are doing keeps you on the right track, and no one will criticise you for that. Unless those who have already made up their minds see such activity as bad, there is no point in stopping gambling.
 
If you can learn how to come out of the addiction page, then there is no problem with continuing to gamble. That's only if you are sure you can't go back there. The main reason why people are advised to leave whatever they get addicted to entirely is because there is no guarantee that, at the end of the day, they won't get addicted again.

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November 05, 2023, 08:19:00 AM
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At least you came so real trying to solve a problem that's not solvable, not like other platforms that claim that everything that has to do with gambling is bad and as such people should stay away from it.
Did you see the URL? QuitGamble.com Which means you should quit gambling.

I have not checked your site yet, but I will do so one of these days to see the details myself, so I can recommend it to anyone who needs to get off the addiction page.
You have not checked the site and you make conclusion. I only read the introductory path which has no complete information and I may not be exactly be correct either. The introductory path does not talk about quitting though.

People that want people to quit addiction want addicted people to stop doing that thing that makes them addicted, like to stop smoking or gambling. It is better to stop than to continue to be addicted.

This site is good for gamblers who want to quit gamble for free, like a guide on how to combat their addiction.
I don't know the catch but the it seems their goal is to really help those gamblers who are having trouble with their gambling habits.
I remember, there's one thread here asking how to avoid addiction where you don't need to spend money or at least the cheaper alternatives.
Maybe some users can find this site useful or remind them on how to fall from the trap of gambling addiction.
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November 05, 2023, 10:03:32 AM
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This site is good for gamblers who want to quit gamble for free, like a guide on how to combat their addiction.
I don't know the catch but the it seems their goal is to really help those gamblers who are having trouble with their gambling habits.
I remember, there's one thread here asking how to avoid addiction where you don't need to spend money or at least the cheaper alternatives.
Maybe some users can find this site useful or remind them on how to fall from the trap of gambling addiction.

I’m not sure about this but probably the catch is the potential donation for those who will be helped by this service or some purchasable materials that gives more detailed approach to solving the addiction problem.

This is fair imho since their website contains a lot of helpful tools for gambling addict. I hope that I will NOT use this someday but it’s really nice to have this kind of service available on gambling board of the forum since I’m almost become like this on my previous gambling activity.  Cheesy

*bookmarked the website already! Thanks OP.

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November 05, 2023, 10:51:48 AM
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Hi Everyone!
I wanted to share a project that I've been part of. 5 years ago, I changed course from being a casino affiliate to working with problem gambling. It's been a project full of challenges, happiness, tears, and fighting. I wanted to do something different, and I saw how many people struggle.

QuitGamble.com

The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, and soon French and Portuguese.



Thank you for sharing this with us, but why now only, you mentioned that you were part of this 5 years ago, but it's still good that you've found the time to share this, the courses and all the information are free because they rely on donations and one of their donators happens to be Great.com an affiliate company which donates €25,000.

Gambling addiction has been one of the main problems and issues in countries where online casinos are accessible and the site is such a big help for those who are struggling to cope with addiction, it's good that they've got sponsors so they can offer all materials free and for maintenance of the platform, I hope they will find more sponsors so they can continue helping more gamblers who have issues with addiction.


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November 05, 2023, 11:03:10 AM
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I skim through the site and the method for solving addiction is to attack the "pain" which causes a person to gamble in the first place. The less you feel the "pain" then the less likely one to gamble and be addicted to it. It's a personal development in a way with a specific purpose so I guess that's not a bad way to approach it.

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November 05, 2023, 11:56:23 AM
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Did you see the URL? QuitGamble.com Which means you should quit gambling.
The site is intended to assist people who are addicted to gambling, with all the adverse effects an addiction can cause, let alone with gambling, which usually involves large amounts of money that can be disastrous for an individual. It doesn't blame gambling as an activity, but the addiction to it, just like any other addiction, is harmful.
You have not checked the site and you make conclusion. I only read the introductory path which has no complete information and I may not be exactly be correct either. The introductory path does not talk about quitting though.

People that want people to quit addiction want addicted people to stop doing that thing that makes them addicted, like to stop smoking or gambling. It is better to stop than to continue to be addicted.
I did a quick look at the website and found a few guides and posts containing the symptoms of a gambling addiction, statistics, some general information, a few blog spots, and a happiness test, which is pretty vague and asks only a handful of questions, which are not enough to draw a conclusion.

In general, the website has useful information but certainly requires more tests, questionnaires, and content.

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I did a quick look at the website and found a few guides and posts containing the symptoms of a gambling addiction, statistics, some general information, a few blog spots, and a happiness test, which is pretty vague and asks only a handful of questions, which are not enough to draw a conclusion.

In general, the website has useful information but certainly requires more tests, questionnaires, and content.

I just do not understand how a website may help you get rid of a gambling addiction. The people who are addicted to gambling, I am sure their family and friends must have asked to stop the gambling frequency. The people near the gambling addcited must have tried to stop the person from addiction but to no avail. So how come a text website will be able to help get rid of gambling addiction???

Anyways the first thing, they ask you is to have a happiness test. Has anyone given that test? I haven't tried it because it asks for an email address where they will send the result of this test and I am not comfortable given my email address on sites unknown to me.


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November 05, 2023, 12:20:29 PM
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I wonder how effective this program is. Have there been any testimonies from addicted gamblers who were helped by your platform?

This is free, as you mentioned, so I'm curious about its effectiveness. Gambling addiction is a serious issue and often requires expensive sessions to address. I appreciate the effort, though. I'll explore your website to gather more information, but I don't need help right now. Hopefully, I won't need it in the future.

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November 05, 2023, 12:55:22 PM
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I wonder how effective this program is. Have there been any testimonies from addicted gamblers who were helped by your platform?

Good question, but it seems that this is just a new platform, so they might not have or maybe few gamblers have reach out to them. And if ever they have, the data is going to be fairly young. But I do hope that the OP will comeback for more data in the future.

This is free, as you mentioned, so I'm curious about its effectiveness. Gambling addiction is a serious issue and often requires expensive sessions to address. I appreciate the effort, though. I'll explore your website to gather more information, but I don't need help right now. Hopefully, I won't need it in the future.

I guess it's really up to the individual itself whether he wanted to quit or believed in this kind of services to help him out of his gambling addiction. But yeah, obviously we really like this kind of efforts from members here and we can only wish that those who are addicted right now and will reach out to them for help. And so there will be success stories specially if it will come from a forum members.
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November 05, 2023, 01:01:09 PM
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If you're curious about our project, please feel free to reach out. I would be happy to receive any feedback, both positive and negative. If you have a gambling problem, I would recommend you take a look at our how to stop gambling addiction guide. It's a step-by-step process that will put you on a new track.
I just read the whole thing about how to stop gambling by following a few steps and it's good that everything is written in detail and also added a video as a sweetener, but I don't care whether this can help addicted and problem gamblers or not, what is clear is your goal in introducing the site You are on this forum to help gambling addicts and problem gamblers, which is very good because to be honest, we don't see many sites like this, let alone providing help for free.

I would love to see how your site works fully and I would like to see many more positive feedbacks about the services you provide to gambling addicts, I will wait for some of the community from this forum who feel they are gambling addicts or have problems in gambling, will they try your site and succeed with the services you provide. Btw welcome to the forum

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November 05, 2023, 01:23:26 PM
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This is probably the best resource when it comes to controlling, and curing gambling addiction, that I stumble I'm surprised that it was not posted here in the past when we have so many members asking about how to cure and manage gambling addiction, so the next time someone here ask about managing and how to get help from their addiction I will likely recommend this website.

One interesting about this platform is its founder and creator page, it details what the site is all about and it also has a yearly roadmap, this platform is a work in progress I'm sure its a big help for the gambling community

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I’m not sure about this but probably the catch is the potential donation for those who will be helped by this service or some purchasable materials that gives more detailed approach to solving the addiction problem.
Donations aren't a bad thing, I do think that if we want this kind of charity to keep serving more people and help more people recover from their gambling addiction, I do think that donations shouldn't be a thing that we should be too penny pinching about because that's the only way they can keep their service going and it's not like most of them are subsidized or helped by the government. To be fair to the donators though, it's important that any charity should have a transparent auditing of all the donations that goes through their organization so people will be more encouraged in donating to whatever cause they're trying to act upon.
I hope that I will NOT use this someday but it’s really nice to have this kind of service available on gambling board of the forum since I’m almost become like this on my previous gambling activity.  Cheesy
I'll hope with you too that me and you won't have to use this to solve our gambling addiction but I think it's not a good thing for us to say that it's not for us, these kinds of organization are the kind that looks like you don't need but when you need them the most, you'll be looking for them. Kindd of like paper clips or any other small negligible stuff in your office or home, you see it everyday but you won't see one when you finally need them.
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November 05, 2023, 01:39:52 PM
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Hi Everyone!
I wanted to share a project that I've been part of. 5 years ago, I changed course from being a casino affiliate to working with problem gambling. It's been a project full of challenges, happiness, tears, and fighting. I wanted to do something different, and I saw how many people struggle.

QuitGamble.com is an online platform and mobile app to help people with gambling problems. The platform is free to use, and members get access to:
  • Video Courses
  • Extensive Guides
  • A community with +4400 members
  • Chat, Forum and Support Groups
  • Mobile App

Everything on QuitGamble.com is built from a problem gambler's perspective. We don't talk about responsible gambling, which many other organizations who claim to work with problem gambling do. For us, there is no such thing as RG for someone with gambling problems. (Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)

The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, and soon French and Portuguese.

If you're curious about our project, please feel free to reach out. I would be happy to receive any feedback, both positive and negative. If you have a gambling problem, I would recommend you take a look at our how to stop gambling addiction guide. It's a step-by-step process that will put you on a new track.


Have a super day, everyone!

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Sincerely, I looked over the platform and found that the goals are commendable. Others believe it is inconceivable that you could demonstrate, in any way, using this platform, what can be done when one is addicted to gambling.

Additionally, it appears that the platform's theme is sound, and it is open to hearing about any and all stories from gamblers in the cryptocurrency area; it appears that they wish to be involved in it in some way.



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November 05, 2023, 01:40:21 PM
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Did you see the URL? QuitGamble.com Which means you should quit gambling.
Yep, it depends on the owner who create this site too.

If they're someone who really hate gambling because it's bad, forbidden by many countries and religion, there's no problem to use quitgamble domain.

But if they're someone who being neutral or even support gambling, they should use a better domain e.g. gamblehelp, gambleguide, gamblecontrol, stopaddiction etc.

What I see the domain and content are contradicts each other.

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November 05, 2023, 01:43:38 PM
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I guess this is a new approach that @OP is trying to develop. Instead of testing his level of addiction, we will be asked to test his level of happiness. And I tried the test to see what my level of happiness was.

But unfortunately, we have to register first to see the results. Maybe later, I will decide to register. But I think I can still handle gambling well so I'm not a serious gambling addict.

Thanks for sharing it with us @OP. Hopefully, your site can help people reduce their gambling addiction. They can use your site well and it can provide benefits for them.

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I just do not understand how a website may help you get rid of a gambling addiction. The people who are addicted to gambling, I am sure their family and friends must have asked to stop the gambling frequency. The people near the gambling addcited must have tried to stop the person from addiction but to no avail. So how come a text website will be able to help get rid of gambling addiction???

Anyways the first thing, they ask you is to have a happiness test. Has anyone given that test? I haven't tried it because it asks for an email address where they will send the result of this test and I am not comfortable given my email address on sites unknown to me.
The same way a psychology's website would help you with depression or other mental illnesses. Its purpose is to provide information on some basic guidelines to acknowledge your addiction and start receiving help, where to look, and so on. This website is unable to make you quit, just like any mental health website is not capable of treating your mental illness. You need professional help from a psychologist to stop any kind of addiction; I don't think someone is capable of managing it on their own. It's not shameful to ask for help, as long as you acknowledge the issue and proceed to receive assistance.

I'm also curious on what kind of insight the happiness text provides, but I'm not willing to put my email or bother investigating any further, the questions are pretty basic and vague, they need to be reconsidered.

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I changed course from being a casino affiliate to working with problem gambling

Can I ask what made you make that change?

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I guess this is a new approach that @OP is trying to develop. Instead of testing his level of addiction, we will be asked to test his level of happiness. And I tried the test to see what my level of happiness was.

But unfortunately, we have to register first to see the results. Maybe later, I will decide to register. But I think I can still handle gambling well so I'm not a serious gambling addict.

Thanks for sharing it with us @OP. Hopefully, your site can help people reduce their gambling addiction. They can use your site well and it can provide benefits for them.

That's what I'm thinking too, but for now I'm still observing, though I like the motive intention of the platform. I hope this will help crypto gamblers in this field of business anyway.

Then it's okay; maybe even if we're not in a situation where we already have an addiction, we can still be part of their goal, right? What is the real intention of the owner of the platform that we are talking about?

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I wonder how effective this program is. Have there been any testimonies from addicted gamblers who were helped by your platform?

Good question, but it seems that this is just a new platform, so they might not have or maybe few gamblers have reach out to them. And if ever they have, the data is going to be fairly young. But I do hope that the OP will comeback for more data in the future.


Well, I didn't bother to explore more on the website yet, but as per OP they already have a community of +4400 members, so I pressume that it's already an established one as new platform does not easily get that big numbers.

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November 05, 2023, 02:59:02 PM
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I changed course from being a casino affiliate to working with problem gambling

Can I ask what made you make that change?

You can find the answer here

https://quitgamble.com/about-us/ From this page you can read the mission, the vision, and  Anders Bergman
Founder of QuitGamble.com, I think they should make the About Us page visible on their homepage, people will ask for information about the site and its founder and it should be easily accessible.

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November 05, 2023, 04:20:21 PM
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I guess this is a new approach that @OP is trying to develop. Instead of testing his level of addiction, we will be asked to test his level of happiness. And I tried the test to see what my level of happiness was.

But unfortunately, we have to register first to see the results. Maybe later, I will decide to register. But I think I can still handle gambling well so I'm not a serious gambling addict.

Thanks for sharing it with us @OP. Hopefully, your site can help people reduce their gambling addiction. They can use your site well and it can provide benefits for them.
I also did the happiness test and actually you can receive the results without registering on the website as it will be sent to your email. I received mine a few minutes after submitting my entry and it came back positive.

It's a great platform. I haven't fully check everything but upon visiting the website, it's user friendly and with just few reading, you'll be inspire to quit gambling with the quotes they have. I'm not really into book reading and watching videos and if I was still addicted to gambling, those may have not help me (doesn't mean it won't help others) but having short quotes, and a community to speak with will help a lot for those gamblers who wanted to quit. The only thing I'm searching was if there's any audibles that we can listen to which would be a great addition to the platform.

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November 05, 2023, 06:08:20 PM
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In everything that has an advantage, there is always a disadvantage. One can always choose to be on the positive side and continue to gamble responsibly, which will also contribute to his mental growth. Those who choose to turn their gambling life into a hobby instead of doing it for fun are chasing after big wins, which leads them right into getting addicted. Those kinds of people are the reason why most people see gambling as a bad influence.
It's barely possible to make an addicted gambler become a responsible gambler because it's not in their nature to be responsible or disciplined which is the reason why they became addicted to gambling in the first place. And, someone who is a responsible gambler doesn't have gambling problems because problems arise when a person gets heavily addicted and starts spending all their time and money on gambling and has no consciousness for any other thing in their lives.

I think the initiative OP has started is great if it turns out to be effective for gamblers who acknowledge the fact that they are facing problems and want to get out of their addiction. I'm not an addicted gambler, but it will be nice to see an addicted gambler try out the platform and then write feedback about the changes they can see in their life.

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November 05, 2023, 06:27:00 PM
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I wonder how effective this program is. Have there been any testimonies from addicted gamblers who were helped by your platform?

Good question, but it seems that this is just a new platform, so they might not have or maybe few gamblers have reach out to them. And if ever they have, the data is going to be fairly young. But I do hope that the OP will comeback for more data in the future.


Well, I didn't bother to explore more on the website yet, but as per OP they already have a community of +4400 members, so I pressume that it's already an established one as new platform does not easily get that big numbers.

A community with +4400 members
I think they are quite experienced if their members are that much, and many methods have been applied to various people's characters with gambling addiction, but indeed we do not see statistical data on how effective this platform is in dealing with gambling problems.
But if for example you want to deal with your gambling problem, you should try it yourself and see how much the impact on you yourself sir.

This is certainly a good opportunity because there are those who provide a platform to solve your gambling problem online and also free, I see the concern of developers here for people who have problems in gambling, if they do this program on a sustainable manner, that is a noble thing.

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November 05, 2023, 07:49:23 PM
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I wonder how effective this program is. Have there been any testimonies from addicted gamblers who were helped by your platform?

Good question, but it seems that this is just a new platform, so they might not have or maybe few gamblers have reach out to them. And if ever they have, the data is going to be fairly young. But I do hope that the OP will comeback for more data in the future.


Well, I didn't bother to explore more on the website yet, but as per OP they already have a community of +4400 members, so I pressume that it's already an established one as new platform does not easily get that big numbers.

A community with +4400 members
I think they are quite experienced if their members are that much, and many methods have been applied to various people's characters with gambling addiction, but indeed we do not see statistical data on how effective this platform is in dealing with gambling problems.
But if for example you want to deal with your gambling problem, you should try it yourself and see how much the impact on you yourself sir.

This is certainly a good opportunity because there are those who provide a platform to solve your gambling problem online and also free, I see the concern of developers here for people who have problems in gambling, if they do this program on a sustainable manner, that is a noble thing.
For whatever options that are currently existing then it would really be just that ideal that you should really be making use of it if you do find your own method or choices doesnt work.
Why would people  do really love on having those kind of judgment in speaking about services offered? Its true that it would really vary on a certain individual about on how things should really be done.
We know that gambling addiction is really that something a very tough problem that cant be easily be resolved out by any app or platforms or counselling or advises or whatsoever.
It would really be that always falls down on someones will and dedication if they would really be that deciding on quitting or else there's no thing on this world that would
really be that something effective but rather it would really be always starting on your own self thought.

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November 05, 2023, 08:04:44 PM
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Others might not appreciate this type of help that you're doing but you're doing something that will help those that are in dire need of being an addicted gambler.

It's all for free and they will have someone to talk to if they want to at least on chat to maintain their anonymity because most of these gamblers don't want to let others know who they are.

@OP, you're doing a good job with this advocacy. Because in a business perspective, those startups that might have come up with something like this. There is for sure going to be a stream of making money but yours is free and hopefully you'll maintain that continuously and you've got a nice domain, I wonder how much you have acquired it.

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November 05, 2023, 08:11:52 PM
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This topic about addiction is not an easy topic, addiction is a disease that destroys the life of the addicted person and all other people who are close to the addicted person. Although I congratulate the efforts of your website, still in my opinion just using your website will not be enough for addicted people to cure their addiction. This is because unlike what your website says that to cure addiction you need to achieve happiness, in my opinion for people to cure addiction they need to be admitted to the hospital and away from anything that is making them addicted. for example in the case of a person addicted to gambling

This person needs to be admitted to a hospital, without a telephone, without internet access and without access to any game for months, this person will need to do other things to have fun, only after many months will this person be cured of the addiction. Now, if a person addicted to gambling has a phone with internet access and doesn't go to the hospital and stays on your website, that person won't be cured. that person will continue playing and will destroy his life, as long as an addicted person has access to the thing that causes him addiction, he will never stop the addiction

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November 05, 2023, 08:29:00 PM
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Good to see that there is now a resource that admitted problem gamblers can use to turn things around. Credits to you for creating this project and I hope that it is a success in the purpose it is aimed to serve!

Others might not appreciate this type of help that you're doing but you're doing something that will help those that are in dire need of being an addicted gambler.

It's all for free and they will have someone to talk to if they want to at least on chat to maintain their anonymity because most of these gamblers don't want to let others know who they are.

@OP, you're doing a good job with this advocacy. Because in a business perspective, those startups that might have come up with something like this. There is for sure going to be a stream of making money but yours is free and hopefully you'll maintain that continuously and you've got a nice domain, I wonder how much you have acquired it.

...and who might be those that would be against the help of gambling addictions, other than casinos who are crossing the line of greed and disrupting responsible gambling? I would hope you are not referring to any members of the community, as that would be troubling to hear.
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November 05, 2023, 08:46:27 PM
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This is very interesting. I have seen lots of threads here talking about gambling addiction and how to stop it but for the first time I am seeing a website fully dedicated to the course of stopping gambling addiction. Gambling addiction has eaten deep into gamblers that they can not control themselves anymore. It is obvious that some addicted gamblers do undergo therapy before they could be able to break out of gambling addiction and some too even after undergoing therapy, they still see themselves addicted but however OP have fully shown how dedicated he or is to Stop gambling addiction by coming up so this project. I believe addicted gamblers would see this and make use of the opportunity to aid themselves in following the steps provided on the website to ease to ease their gambling addiction.


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This is very interesting. I have seen lots of threads here talking about gambling addiction and how to stop it but for the first time I am seeing a website fully dedicated to the course of stopping gambling addiction. Gambling addiction has eaten deep into gamblers that they can not control themselves anymore. It is obvious that some addicted gamblers do undergo therapy before they could be able to break out of gambling addiction and some too even after undergoing therapy, they still see themselves addicted but however OP have fully shown how dedicated he or is to Stop gambling addiction by coming up so this project. I believe addicted gamblers would see this and make use of the opportunity to aid themselves in following the steps provided on the website to ease to ease their gambling addiction.

hence, this site may come in handy for those gamblers here who want to address their addiction for free or those gamblers who are on the verge of addiction. better take care of it early rather than when you are already too deep in your troubles.
as the thread says, free help, so hopefully it will attract gamblers here that are asking for this kind of support. as you said, there are so many threads here already discussing about addiction. so yeah, time to have that kind of free service for these people.

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This is very interesting. I have seen lots of threads here talking about gambling addiction and how to stop it but for the first time I am seeing a website fully dedicated to the course of stopping gambling addiction. Gambling addiction has eaten deep into gamblers that they can not control themselves anymore. It is obvious that some addicted gamblers do undergo therapy before they could be able to break out of gambling addiction and some too even after undergoing therapy, they still see themselves addicted but however OP have fully shown how dedicated he or is to Stop gambling addiction by coming up so this project. I believe addicted gamblers would see this and make use of the opportunity to aid themselves in following the steps provided on the website to ease to ease their gambling addiction.

hence, this site may come in handy for those gamblers here who want to address their addiction for free or those gamblers who are on the verge of addiction. better take care of it early rather than when you are already too deep in your troubles.
as the thread says, free help, so hopefully it will attract gamblers here that are asking for this kind of support. as you said, there are so many threads here already discussing about addiction. so yeah, time to have that kind of free service for these people.
Yes, its free and its not something that you arent that forced to make use of it but this kind of step or move made by OP is really that something that deserved merit and commendation.
Its totally unlikely or really that not common on seeing free service nowadays on which if there's someone bothered up and making something for the benefit of these gambling addicts then
it is really just that good to know that there are ones who do give that kind of importance on how to resolve out such problem. Most of people on this thread do really tells
about on for it not to work on which there's a point but its not bad to make out these kind of steps either.

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I skim through the site and the method for solving addiction is to attack the "pain" which causes a person to gamble in the first place. The less you feel the "pain" then the less likely one to gamble and be addicted to it. It's a personal development in a way with a specific purpose so I guess that's not a bad way to approach it.
The thing there is personal discipline and following principles,  this is so important that tou as a gambler holds 90% of the solution to the problem and instead looking for a solution from external places, you should,, first of all be able to tell yourself the truth, after you have measured your level of involvement in the act and making up your mind to quit, regardless.


So even though if the site, and the activities within it as listed by the ops aren't able to change your addictions state, you should be able to at least figure out one or two features that will help you in your personal quest to kill gambling addictions.

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did you follow any plan or you follow any official guide related gambling problems?
how did you get these information/get assembled?
I think this a nice and useful idea, but I will just more to try to find more information on such materials since it's really crucial to know...

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The two links you provided they are all nice. You really break down the steps to stop gambling addiction but there is one that you didn't mention from the guides or the steps. Most people involved in gambling from the onset because there was no any other work or job for them to do so they see gambling as a part time job. I can still vividly remember in 2018, in one the compound I had lived, and the youth in that community were saying that "Thank God that they brought gambling because there is no any other job to do", then I quickly recalled that "so it is because there is no job for them to do, that is why they are gambling", the job is government and not manual jobs. Those are some of the things that were making them to join gambling.
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So even though if the site, and the activities within it as listed by the ops aren't able to change your addictions state, you should be able to at least figure out one or two features that will help you in your personal quest to kill gambling addictions.
As we know that any method will not be able to stop someone's addiction if that person does not have the confidence in themselves to reduce their gambling or stop gambling, to be honest it is very difficult to fight the feeling to stop gambling, it takes time because of the level of that person's addiction. different ones are not always the same, for addicts who have a high level of difficulty it will take a lot of time to stop, in contrast to gambling addicts with a lower level it will not take long to cure them.

But there are several features there that might be a reference to start with, even if using the site doesn't change the situation, at least find out about yourself what the level of addiction is then slowly reduce it continuously like my friend did. He managed to cure his gambling addiction because he started by reducing his gambling time. and desire and strong determination. it becomes a weapon to convince yourself to succeed.  Wink

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Good to see that there is now a resource that admitted problem gamblers can use to turn things around. Credits to you for creating this project and I hope that it is a success in the purpose it is aimed to serve!


Previously no one took gambling addiction seriously and everyone was of the point of view that gambling addicts should come up with ways to reduce gambling and engage in other healthy activities. Of course, this is not easy and if it was easy to move away from gambling, no one would be addicted to gambling.

With the introduction of such sites, at least people will realize that addiction of gambling is like a disease that needs a medical solution and it is something that can't be ignored.

Such sites will bring this issue on the table, the people will take it seriously and eventually, we will have gambling addiction rehabilitation centers online or offline.

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First, let me say welcome to the forum even though you've been here for a while, but then, this is probably the first time I am coming across your post on the forum, so welcome once again.

Infact, this is actually a very good project for the gambling community, most especially when we have problems gamblers every where looking and seeking for help, I personally like the fact that you guys decided to make everything in the site free of charge, atleast with this, no addicted gambler have any excuse as to why they cannot access help.

One question I have for the op is, is the mobile app available on google play store?, I will love to try the app out. Anyways, I will be following the project through this forum and thread from now on, kudos to you and every other person involved in the project.

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In general, the website has useful information but certainly requires more tests, questionnaires, and content.

Thanks for the comment. On the members pages, the courses, most videos, and the community are available. The Happiness Test is available without signing up though.
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I just do not understand how a website may help you get rid of a gambling addiction. The people who are addicted to gambling, I am sure their family and friends must have asked to stop the gambling frequency. The people near the gambling addcited must have tried to stop the person from addiction but to no avail. So how come a text website will be able to help get rid of gambling addiction???



Thanks for the feedback! The platform is based on escape theory. We believe gambling is doing something for the person, that's why it's so hard to stop (if you want to stop). For instance. Many gamble when they feel bored or lonely, because gambling is exceptionally good at distracting you. When you gamble, you don't feel lonely anymore. It's the escape that is addictive, not the gamble by itself.

On the members pages, we have developed video courses. In the video courses, we use CBT to help people overcome the different areas in their life that cause them pain. For instance, we have courses in handling loneliness, boredom, stress, lack of meaning, and worries about health.

We don't try to compete with Gamblers Anonymous or psychologists, instead, we offer an alternative. Something that is available 24/7 worldwide. Currently, we have members in 110+ countries.
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I wonder how effective this program is. Have there been any testimonies from addicted gamblers who were helped by your platform?

This is free, as you mentioned, so I'm curious about its effectiveness. Gambling addiction is a serious issue and often requires expensive sessions to address. I appreciate the effort, though. I'll explore your website to gather more information, but I don't need help right now. Hopefully, I won't need it in the future.

We have many happy members on the platform. The most common comment is that they don't feel alone anymore. Other comments on the benefit of putting addiction in a new light. For instance how QuitGamble focuses on the underlying causes of the addiction (what gambling is doing for the person, rather than just trying to stay away from gambling.) I hope to get many more comments and testimonials in the future.
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If you're curious about our project, please feel free to reach out. I would be happy to receive any feedback, both positive and negative. If you have a gambling problem, I would recommend you take a look at our how to stop gambling addiction guide. It's a step-by-step process that will put you on a new track.
I just read the whole thing about how to stop gambling by following a few steps and it's good that everything is written in detail and also added a video as a sweetener, but I don't care whether this can help addicted and problem gamblers or not, what is clear is your goal in introducing the site You are on this forum to help gambling addicts and problem gamblers, which is very good because to be honest, we don't see many sites like this, let alone providing help for free.

I would love to see how your site works fully and I would like to see many more positive feedbacks about the services you provide to gambling addicts, I will wait for some of the community from this forum who feel they are gambling addicts or have problems in gambling, will they try your site and succeed with the services you provide. Btw welcome to the forum

Thank you! I appreciate your kind words. Let me know if we can do anything for you guys at Stake. We have some collaborations with companies like Kindred and LL Europe where they recommend us to customers via their responsible gambling pages.
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Sincerely, I looked over the platform and found that the goals are commendable. Others believe it is inconceivable that you could demonstrate, in any way, using this platform, what can be done when one is addicted to gambling.

Additionally, it appears that the platform's theme is sound, and it is open to hearing about any and all stories from gamblers in the cryptocurrency area; it appears that they wish to be involved in it in some way.


Thanks for the kind words! It's fantastic what words can mean sometimes.
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Did you see the URL? QuitGamble.com Which means you should quit gambling.
Yep, it depends on the owner who create this site too.

If they're someone who really hate gambling because it's bad, forbidden by many countries and religion, there's no problem to use quitgamble domain.

But if they're someone who being neutral or even support gambling, they should use a better domain e.g. gamblehelp, gambleguide, gamblecontrol, stopaddiction etc.

What I see the domain and content are contradicts each other.

We chose the domain because the platform and website focus on helping people who want to stop gambling. We don't condemn gambling, it's up to each individual if they want to gamble or not. (It was an added bonus that QuitGamble.com was available.
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I wonder how effective this program is. Have there been any testimonies from addicted gamblers who were helped by your platform?

This is free, as you mentioned, so I'm curious about its effectiveness. Gambling addiction is a serious issue and often requires expensive sessions to address. I appreciate the effort, though. I'll explore your website to gather more information, but I don't need help right now. Hopefully, I won't need it in the future.

We have many happy members on the platform. The most common comment is that they don't feel alone anymore. Other comments on the benefit of putting addiction in a new light. For instance how QuitGamble focuses on the underlying causes of the addiction (what gambling is doing for the person, rather than just trying to stay away from gambling.) I hope to get many more comments and testimonials in the future.
That is a good approach to cover the topic of addictions because having a single dimensional focus in approach to treating addictions could result into failure of the total structure,  so for you to have covered a wide arrange of another aspect as important as clarifying the positive aspect of gambling and not focusing on battling against gambling addiction in a straight away manner.

We will give this topic our holistic attention and contribute to this discussion as we progress,  wish you guys the best of times around here.
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Can I ask what made you make that change?

I wanted to do something else. The affiliate business didn't make me happy. Then, a friend suggested that I should help people instead, and something sparked in me. It was a challenge, and I quickly realized there was so much more to addiction than I had thought before.
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What is the real intention of the owner of the platform that we are talking about?

Here is some more information about the project. https://quitgamble.com/about-us
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Founder of QuitGamble.com, I think they should make the About Us page visible on their homepage, people will ask for information about the site and its founder and it should be easily accessible.

Thanks for the feedback! It is good with thing we can improve. The About page is linked in the menu, and there is a section on the start page about the project with a link to the About Us page. Any suggestion on how to make it more visible? 
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The only thing I'm searching was if there's any audibles that we can listen to which would be a great addition to the platform.

Thanks for the feedback. Some guides we have an audible version of. Can you give some examples of audibles you'd like to have? It would be very interesting. thanks again!
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you've got a nice domain, I wonder how much you have acquired it.
I was lucky, I only paid €15 for it Smiley
The guy who owned QuitGambling .com wanted €15K for it... He didn't get it...
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This is very interesting. I have seen lots of threads here talking about gambling addiction and how to stop it but for the first time I am seeing a website fully dedicated to the course of stopping gambling addiction. Gambling addiction has eaten deep into gamblers that they can not control themselves anymore. It is obvious that some addicted gamblers do undergo therapy before they could be able to break out of gambling addiction and some too even after undergoing therapy, they still see themselves addicted but however OP have fully shown how dedicated he or is to Stop gambling addiction by coming up so this project. I believe addicted gamblers would see this and make use of the opportunity to aid themselves in following the steps provided on the website to ease to ease their gambling addiction.



Thank you for your encouraging words Smiley
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did you follow any plan or you follow any official guide related gambling problems?
how did you get these information/get assembled?
I think this a nice and useful idea, but I will just more to try to find more information on such materials since it's really crucial to know...

The short answer is that we didn't follow any official guide related to problem gambling, because there is simply none. All of them are influenced or affected by the gambling industry. Look at the major organisations like the national counsel on problem gambling and Gamcare. Both organisations promote responsible gambling. The same goes for the research. Since I saw many suffering, I wanted to create something different.
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you've got a nice domain, I wonder how much you have acquired it.
I was lucky, I only paid €15 for it Smiley
The guy who owned QuitGambling .com wanted €15K for it... He didn't get it...
This is quite hard to believe  Grin, from €15,000 euro to €15 euro, how is that even possible? Did you use some kind of charm on him to make him sell it at such a ridiculous price after first charging €15,000 euro?
Would sincerely love to know, maybe i can learn a thing or two from that so I know how to bargain better when ever I find myself making such deals.

Anyways, I  understand that you are still new on the forum, and you probably may haven't come in terms or understand the rules of the forum, what you are doing up there is considered as spamming, it makes no sense when the op is the one spamming his or her own thread.

Please use insert quote function and reply to as many comments as you want to reply to at once, this way, you have a much more clean thread, rather than you making different comments consecutively.

The forum rules states that a user after making a post, must allow a post from another user, before posting another on the same thread.

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Hi Everyone!
I wanted to share a project that I've been part of. 5 years ago, I changed course from being a casino affiliate to working with problem gambling. It's been a project full of challenges, happiness, tears, and fighting. I wanted to do something different, and I saw how many people struggle.

QuitGamble.com is an online platform and mobile app to help people with gambling problems. The platform is free to use, and members get access to:
  • Video Courses
  • Extensive Guides
  • A community with +4400 members
  • Chat, Forum and Support Groups
  • Mobile App

Everything on QuitGamble.com is built from a problem gambler's perspective. We don't talk about responsible gambling, which many other organizations who claim to work with problem gambling do. For us, there is no such thing as RG for someone with gambling problems. (Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)

The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, and soon French and Portuguese.

If you're curious about our project, please feel free to reach out. I would be happy to receive any feedback, both positive and negative. If you have a gambling problem, I would recommend you take a look at our how to stop gambling addiction guide. It's a step-by-step process that will put you on a new track.


Have a super day, everyone!

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The time has come for people to wake up to the reality that people need help from gambling addictions, most people have turned to loads of people to help them with strategies that will calm them down from the gmabling spirit but setting up of a platform makes it  a joint effort.

Having a platform that does conisder this fact as an important part of a gmabler's life is very interesting.

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This is helpful and I can see it coming a long way to solve many gamblers request in mind concerning gambling, i just noticed one observation from the title compared to what the content is, the sites name is talking about quit gamble while the content are helpful ways to have a successful experience and the likes, this is not talking more about quitting but rather how one can get the best offers from gambling, the owner has the right to actually choose the name they want to bear while mine was just an observation.



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The time has come for people to wake up to the reality that people need help from gambling addictions, most people have turned to loads of people to help them with strategies that will calm them down from the gmabling spirit but setting up of a platform makes it  a joint effort.

Having a platform that does conisder this fact as an important part of a gmabler's life is very interesting.
   Gambling addiction is a challenging issue, but many individuals do come clean and recover from it with the right support and strategies. Breaking away from gambling typically involves a combination of self-awareness, support, and lifestyle changes. It's important to understand that recovery is a journey, and relapses can occur. What matters most is your determination to come clean and your commitment to getting back on track if you slip. Seeking help and building a support network is a crucial part of the process, and it's never too late to start.
   If you’re gambling because you feel a need to, or because you expect to win big, or because you’re trying to improve your income, or you’re using the grocery money, then don’t gamble. If you’re gambling because it relaxes you and you enjoy the environment and (this is the big one) you’ve paid all your bills (including child support and alimony), and you’ve set a maximum limit on how much you can lose without affecting how you look at world tomorrow, then go ahead and have fun.
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I wonder how effective this program is. Have there been any testimonies from addicted gamblers who were helped by your platform?

This is free, as you mentioned, so I'm curious about its effectiveness. Gambling addiction is a serious issue and often requires expensive sessions to address. I appreciate the effort, though. I'll explore your website to gather more information, but I don't need help right now. Hopefully, I won't need it in the future.

We have many happy members on the platform. The most common comment is that they don't feel alone anymore. Other comments on the benefit of putting addiction in a new light. For instance how QuitGamble focuses on the underlying causes of the addiction (what gambling is doing for the person, rather than just trying to stay away from gambling.) I hope to get many more comments and testimonials in the future.

So, I can compare that your platform is like a consultation place where the gamblers who have a problem with their gambling habit or have an addiction are like their therapy, which you are promoting in this thread, right?

Honestly speaking, your approach is really good, and I also think that many of our community colleagues here on the forum platform seem like they will participate in the goal that you want to happen to everyone here in the crypto space. So, the only thing I see is that, in the simplest words, you will be the  "Therapist of the Gamblers", right?


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you've got a nice domain, I wonder how much you have acquired it.
I was lucky, I only paid €15 for it Smiley
The guy who owned QuitGambling .com wanted €15K for it... He didn't get it...
This is quite hard to believe  Grin, from €15,000 euro to €15 euro, how is that even possible? Did you use some kind of charm on him to make him sell it at such a ridiculous price after first charging €15,000 euro?
Would sincerely love to know, maybe i can learn a thing or two from that so I know how to bargain better when ever I find myself making such deals.

Anyways, I  understand that you are still new on the forum, and you probably may haven't come in terms or understand the rules of the forum, what you are doing up there is considered as spamming, it makes no sense when the op is the one spamming his or her own thread.

Please use insert quote function and reply to as many comments as you want to reply to at once, this way, you have a much more clean thread, rather than you making different comments consecutively.

The forum rules states that a user after making a post, must allow a post from another user, before posting another on the same thread.

When it comes to the price of the domain. They were two different domains. QuitGamble.com was a free domain. QuitGambling.com was already taken and the domain shark wanted 15K for it. I didn't want to pay that price (insanity) so I found QuitGamble, which I actually like better. For free.

Thank you for the spam tips. I had no idea. I'll try in this post to answer multiple comments in one.

First, let me say welcome to the forum even though you've been here for a while, but then, this is probably the first time I am coming across your post on the forum, so welcome once again.

One question I have for the op is, is the mobile app available on google play store?, I will love to try the app out. Anyways, I will be following the project through this forum and thread from now on, kudos to you and every other person involved in the project.
Thanks for the Welcome Smiley We have a mobile app for Android and iOS. Best way to find it is to search for "how to stop gambling" and you find it Google Play. You can do nearly everything you can do on desktop in the mobile app.

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This is helpful and I can see it coming a long way to solve many gamblers request in mind concerning gambling, i just noticed one observation from the title compared to what the content is, the sites name is talking about quit gamble while the content are helpful ways to have a successful experience and the likes, this is not talking more about quitting but rather how one can get the best offers from gambling, the owner has the right to actually choose the name they want to bear while mine was just an observation.

Interesting feedback, can you give any examples of "get the best offers from gambling"? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.



So, I can compare that your platform is like a consultation place where the gamblers who have a problem with their gambling habit or have an addiction are like their therapy, which you are promoting in this thread, right?

Honestly speaking, your approach is really good, and I also think that many of our community colleagues here on the forum platform seem like they will participate in the goal that you want to happen to everyone here in the crypto space. So, the only thing I see is that, in the simplest words, you will be the  "Therapist of the Gamblers", right?

I see the platform as a self-help tool for problem gamblers. We will offer some consulting or coaching in the future, but I want to create things that we can scale at low cost rather than things where I need to participate in. (I can't scale myself).

"Therapist of Gamblers" Smiley That would be an honor. I wish I could switch my username then. Perhaps I should create a new user.
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the site looks interesting. But the main thing i don`t like that i need to register. And everywhere i see the button of registration. And i can`t test site totally without registration.
It is possible that there are lots of opportunities after registration and i think that at least part of them really need registration(like different challenges). But the same time i must have an opportunity to use some services without registration - i don`t like it. So i just looked at the site and closed it.

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the site looks interesting. But the main thing i don`t like that i need to register. And everywhere i see the button of registration. And i can`t test site totally without registration.
It is possible that there are lots of opportunities after registration and i think that at least part of them really need registration(like different challenges). But the same time i must have an opportunity to use some services without registration - i don`t like it. So i just looked at the site and closed it.

I see your point. Pure waste of time. And it can be frustrating when you're required to register just to explore a website. While registration can offer benefits websites should allow users to access some features without it to make the initial experience more user-friendly.

If they really want to help us they don't need us to register IMO.

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Good to see that there is now a resource that admitted problem gamblers can use to turn things around. Credits to you for creating this project and I hope that it is a success in the purpose it is aimed to serve!


Previously no one took gambling addiction seriously and everyone was of the point of view that gambling addicts should come up with ways to reduce gambling and engage in other healthy activities. Of course, this is not easy and if it was easy to move away from gambling, no one would be addicted to gambling.

With the introduction of such sites, at least people will realize that addiction of gambling is like a disease that needs a medical solution and it is something that can't be ignored.

Such sites will bring this issue on the table, the people will take it seriously and eventually, we will have gambling addiction rehabilitation centers online or offline.

I have seen further awareness spring about in the progress of the last year, which is great. Both here, and offline. You are absolutely right in saying that in the past, addicts seemed like they were just weak people with no one else to blame but themselves. .however I think it's becoming more and more clear that gambling and different games can effect different personalities in different ways. They may not necessarily realize this until reflection (if even progressed to this point) which by then, is too late

I hope that this project can help to make people realize the consequences sooner, whether it be through support or third party experience.
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One thing is having a free platform that we can get the best advice as resources to help tackle every of our gambling challenges, but another thing is having the determination that we want to make use of these various opportunities to help effect our gambling experience for our own sake and benefits, it's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.



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Good to see that there is now a resource that admitted problem gamblers can use to turn things around. Credits to you for creating this project and I hope that it is a success in the purpose it is aimed to serve!


Previously no one took gambling addiction seriously and everyone was of the point of view that gambling addicts should come up with ways to reduce gambling and engage in other healthy activities. Of course, this is not easy and if it was easy to move away from gambling, no one would be addicted to gambling.

With the introduction of such sites, at least people will realize that addiction of gambling is like a disease that needs a medical solution and it is something that can't be ignored.

Such sites will bring this issue on the table, the people will take it seriously and eventually, we will have gambling addiction rehabilitation centers online or offline.

I have seen further awareness spring about in the progress of the last year, which is great. Both here, and offline. You are absolutely right in saying that in the past, addicts seemed like they were just weak people with no one else to blame but themselves. .however I think it's becoming more and more clear that gambling and different games can effect different personalities in different ways. They may not necessarily realize this until reflection (if even progressed to this point) which by then, is too late

I hope that this project can help to make people realize the consequences sooner, whether it be through support or third party experience.
Addiction is more complicated than weakness. Far more complexity exists. The games, the lights, the action - all of these are meant to lure in certain types of people in different ways. It's a serious matter, and the consequences might be disastrous.

Though, it's frequently too late, I think reflection is essential. We've all witnessed it, including you and me. I'm fighting for initiatives that offer both immediate support and awareness-raising because of this. Not only should the implications be explained to people, but they need also be demonstrated to them and effectively engaged before it's too late. Real stories told in virtual reality, interactive platforms simulating the downward spiral of gambling addiction - immersive, unavoidable experiences - are what I mean. Prevention is the key, not just intervention.

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This is something very positive and it's good that you came here and can make all this available to everyone, from what I see the guides are very necessary for people who are entering the world of online casinos with crypto and have many doubts, it is always good to contribute in order to be well everything necessary to be able to establish the best for us, regarding the guides and advice that you show that is something that can be very helpful, it would be excellent to be able to provide images and hearing so that the people who have porbelma with the game you can see that there is something very interesting like addiction to the game. Always whatever it is for gambling addiction is fundamental, and all this has to do with the best of all options to do, in this order of ideas I must go because now I have seen that in the forum there is a growing number of topics that point to gambling addiction and it is an issue that has to be addressed if possible in every day that there are casinos and games, because I can see that things like this coincide with respect to addiction, because I think that there are many players who are suffering game addiction

Well, gambling addiction is something that must be treated as soon as possible so that something like a better method can be established so that people can help themselves and for free without the need for medication, without the need to call psychologists where It is charged per case, and even though each case is my own, what matters is that everyone gets rid of their addiction, this is something that should always be done, any advice or any guide for addiction is good because of some thing is being attacked and it is a way to cure it, everything is welcome, also we do not know how many people who are from the forum are with this, how many people who read the forum and are not members of the forum but enter as guests to read, we do not know As many people can be helped in an important way, a guide or any method is always well accepted.

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November 09, 2023, 12:30:33 PM
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the site looks interesting. But the main thing i don`t like that i need to register. And everywhere i see the button of registration. And i can`t test site totally without registration.
It is possible that there are lots of opportunities after registration and i think that at least part of them really need registration(like different challenges). But the same time i must have an opportunity to use some services without registration - i don`t like it. So i just looked at the site and closed it.

I see your point. Pure waste of time. And it can be frustrating when you're required to register just to explore a website. While registration can offer benefits websites should allow users to access some features without it to make the initial experience more user-friendly.

If they really want to help us they don't need us to register IMO.
True, I agree with what guys are saying, how can a person who visits their website be attracted or interested in their website if the person can't access some features of the website, I know there is informations in the front website but it still not enough to atrract people or players, ok let's say someone got interested but he need to login first it is a bit hassles and we know users tend to be bored because they need to do something before they view what attracted them, I get it its easy to register but still if you know how to attract players for your website then at the front page of your website you will put something that will make them register right away, or because of their curiosity they will register to your website or app, text is not enough to attract people, as some are too lazy to read long texts so the effective way to attract them is by using graphics, pictures that is example in your website. You have to do more when it comes to attracting players to your website.

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November 09, 2023, 12:52:01 PM
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Hi Everyone!
I wanted to share a project that I've been part of. 5 years ago, I changed course from being a casino affiliate to working with problem gambling. It's been a project full of challenges, happiness, tears, and fighting. I wanted to do something different, and I saw how many people struggle.

QuitGamble.com is an online platform and mobile app to help people with gambling problems. The platform is free to use, and members get access to:
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Everything on QuitGamble.com is built from a problem gambler's perspective. We don't talk about responsible gambling, which many other organizations who claim to work with problem gambling do. For us, there is no such thing as RG for someone with gambling problems. (Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)

The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, and soon French and Portuguese.

If you're curious about our project, please feel free to reach out. I would be happy to receive any feedback, both positive and negative. If you have a gambling problem, I would recommend you take a look at our how to stop gambling addiction guide. It's a step-by-step process that will put you on a new track.


Have a super day, everyone!

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I just took a look at the website and I was very impressed! I hope this will help a lot of gambling addicts get over their addiction, forever. I think the main thing they need is someone who helps them and supports them. If you were to integrate a support-community into your entire QuitGamble concept, then you would definitely improve the website and your chances of helping addicted people.

The reason I say this is because in my experience, addicts need a support community to distract themselves and to help others by distracting them and pulling them away from the world of gambling.

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November 09, 2023, 01:06:21 PM
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the site looks interesting. But the main thing i don`t like that i need to register. And everywhere i see the button of registration. And i can`t test site totally without registration.
It is possible that there are lots of opportunities after registration and i think that at least part of them really need registration(like different challenges). But the same time i must have an opportunity to use some services without registration - i don`t like it. So i just looked at the site and closed it.

I see your point. Pure waste of time. And it can be frustrating when you're required to register just to explore a website. While registration can offer benefits websites should allow users to access some features without it to make the initial experience more user-friendly.

If they really want to help us they don't need us to register IMO.
I do not see any big problems with registration if they do not ask much of your personal information. You can use any random or a no use email to register and get access to what they offer if you really need it.
Think about it, even the bitcointalk forum requires that you register to enjoy the main benefits of the forum, else you will be in read-only mode.

I like the website because they recognise that there is gambling problem and they want to solve it. That is a good one...

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November 09, 2023, 01:33:49 PM
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the site looks interesting. But the main thing i don`t like that i need to register. And everywhere i see the button of registration. And i can`t test site totally without registration.
It is possible that there are lots of opportunities after registration and i think that at least part of them really need registration(like different challenges). But the same time i must have an opportunity to use some services without registration - i don`t like it. So i just looked at the site and closed it.

I see your point. Pure waste of time. And it can be frustrating when you're required to register just to explore a website. While registration can offer benefits websites should allow users to access some features without it to make the initial experience more user-friendly.

If they really want to help us they don't need us to register IMO.
Every approach have it own negative impact and the positive impact, and i don't think gamblers should be allowed to test run all the features in the casino, without having an account in the same casino, this is why some of them will only allow you access only when you are a member.


This is the reason why, they always give welcome bonuses to players to keep them motivated to stay with the casino once they create an account.

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November 09, 2023, 01:48:03 PM
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the site looks interesting. But the main thing i don`t like that i need to register. And everywhere i see the button of registration. And i can`t test site totally without registration.
It is possible that there are lots of opportunities after registration and i think that at least part of them really need registration(like different challenges). But the same time i must have an opportunity to use some services without registration - i don`t like it. So i just looked at the site and closed it.

I see your point. Pure waste of time. And it can be frustrating when you're required to register just to explore a website. While registration can offer benefits websites should allow users to access some features without it to make the initial experience more user-friendly.

If they really want to help us they don't need us to register IMO.
Every approach have it own negative impact and the positive impact, and i don't think gamblers should be allowed to test run all the features in the casino, without having an account in the same casino, this is why some of them will only allow you access only when you are a member.


This is the reason why, they always give welcome bonuses to players to keep them motivated to stay with the casino once they create an account.
I get your point about registering account on casino. But Man what the heck are you saying? This isn't a casino; it's a website that cares about your gambling addiction. I know you have a signature campaign quota since we're in the same campaign. Did you really read the OP or even the title thread before replying? I was thinking that you thought this is another a casino website. Right?

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November 09, 2023, 04:50:32 PM
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It's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.

It is mostly because agencies which are supposed to help people with problems like alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide ideation and gambling addiction are commonly unfunded, since most of them are non-profit organizations. That kind of entities mostly rely on donations and rarely get active funding from the government. So for example, of there are 100 people who are addicted to gambling and need counseling, the organization (in order to manage their limited services in a wise way) only hire 4 operators to take care of the questions and problems of those 100 gamblers who are seeking help.
The result is obvious, many (if not all) of those gambler will feel neglected by the system they attend to for help.
That is why I personally believe the most important thing to have when facing these problems is a good relationship with family and friends, to supplement the counseling one could get, public or private.

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November 09, 2023, 05:08:37 PM
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The whole thing is such a nice initiative. Your reasoning about responsible gambling is also on point, it won't affect at all if someone is already addicted. It's a completely different problem, and here you are making a movement trying to fix that issue.

What is also nice is that you spread the content for free, though upon looking at the About page, this is a pretty ambitious project. I wonder how would you monetize this site because I believe this might cost some money. By the way, personally, I look at your website UI is cluttered. Have you considered redesigning your current site or does it just work wonderfully in terms of user analytics and their experiences?
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November 09, 2023, 05:17:32 PM
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The feedback is: that your site is just awesome. The platform is tailored right with good sections from self-exclusion to various topics on how to get rid of gambling addiction. I never imagined that I would stumble upon such a website and there is such a high need to have the platform to take us away from the addiction. Truly, we need this because some crowd can't control themselves. I have seen peeps going nuts over their losses so much as they went on investing more money to recover that lost money but ended up in a loop where they are just putting their in but getting nothing back. They do not play straight or with open mind, but they play with emotions, loose money in the process and there is no way to stop it as long as they don't help themselves from that additocio.

I think that is what "self exlsuion" is all about in your website.

I am seeing few blogs that are really fun to read and think on, never thought Sex drive the gambling addiction. That really caught my eye. Lolz. Your blog section is definitely worth reading.

Thanks for such platform. Hope so it gets published a lot.
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November 09, 2023, 05:44:35 PM
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the site looks interesting. But the main thing i don`t like that i need to register. And everywhere i see the button of registration. And i can`t test site totally without registration.
It is possible that there are lots of opportunities after registration and i think that at least part of them really need registration(like different challenges). But the same time i must have an opportunity to use some services without registration - i don`t like it. So i just looked at the site and closed it.

I see your point. Pure waste of time. And it can be frustrating when you're required to register just to explore a website. While registration can offer benefits websites should allow users to access some features without it to make the initial experience more user-friendly.

If they really want to help us they don't need us to register IMO.
I do not see any big problems with registration if they do not ask much of your personal information. You can use any random or a no use email to register and get access to what they offer if you really need it.
Think about it, even the bitcointalk forum requires that you register to enjoy the main benefits of the forum, else you will be in read-only mode.

I like the website because they recognise that there is gambling problem and they want to solve it. That is a good one...
There are no problems with registration. But i don`t want to register. At least i don`t want to leave any data for unknown site. I get enough spam letters yet to add some more. And without registration i can`t see anything interesting except several videos. Everybody can choose himself to register and test site, or just leave it. The OP asked feedback - he got it.

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November 09, 2023, 08:51:13 PM
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I do not see any big problems with registration if they do not ask much of your personal information. You can use any random or a no use email to register and get access to what they offer if you really need it.
Think about it, even the bitcointalk forum requires that you register to enjoy the main benefits of the forum, else you will be in read-only mode.

I like the website because they recognise that there is gambling problem and they want to solve it. That is a good one...
There are no problems with registration. But i don`t want to register. At least i don`t want to leave any data for unknown site. I get enough spam letters yet to add some more. And without registration i can`t see anything interesting except several videos. Everybody can choose himself to register and test site, or just leave it. The OP asked feedback - he got it.
I think the data they get from the registration is the only thing that they can get from providing free access or free guide on how to quit gambling. Most of us will put dummy details into the registration form to achieve anonymity and I don't see a problem with that but I think the developers are thinking to use the data to improve their contents and monitor the flow of users in their application. The website has a good intention and I think that a few minutes and false information is enough for us to get contents on how to quit gambling.
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November 09, 2023, 09:19:13 PM
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One thing is having a free platform where we can get the best advice as resources to help tackle every one of our gambling challenges, but another thing is having the determination that we want to make use of these various opportunities to help affect our gambling experience for our own sake and benefits, it's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system isn't giving the necessary attention to guide through.
The gamblers are the sole factors that will determine how successful this service can perform and we have such platforms that provide gamblers with  the tools for expanding gambling excesses, and also making sure that we come out clean with all our approaches towards those things that have negative impact on our general well being so for that, the gambler is in the right position to determine which one and when he apply them, so the main thing still lies with the gambler to decide when and where those  tool can be applied since the decision to either quit or restrict your gambling activities to safe you from one thing or the other that have presented a negative outcome for the gambler.

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November 09, 2023, 09:44:22 PM
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It's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.

It is mostly because agencies which are supposed to help people with problems like alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide ideation and gambling addiction are commonly unfunded, since most of them are non-profit organizations.

How can the agencies regulate gambling, this is beyond their power or reach, they may try to but it's not an easy thing to make regulations in this kind of situations, the agencies cannot be responsible for the way we gamble, wether to our own advantage or not they don't care, they only work to apprehend those found abusing or violating the ethics of gambling by getting engaged in any of the above mentioned characters.



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November 09, 2023, 11:57:41 PM
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It's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.

It is mostly because agencies which are supposed to help people with problems like alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide ideation and gambling addiction are commonly unfunded, since most of them are non-profit organizations.

How can the agencies regulate gambling, this is beyond their power or reach, they may try to but it's not an easy thing to make regulations in this kind of situations, the agencies cannot be responsible for the way we gamble, wether to our own advantage or not they don't care, they only work to apprehend those found abusing or violating the ethics of gambling by getting engaged in any of the above mentioned characters.
Gambling addiction is something that cant really be that something that would be resolved out. Professional services about gambling addiction is something that we do know that they do exist
and there are indeed gamblers who are making use of those services or paying up just to make themselves getting out of addiction but actually there's no other way or method
that would help us out on able to quit up gambling but rather we would really be that have that will on stopping on point. Its a matter of discipline and control
when it comes to this manner.

If there are some services which do offer free service for these gambling addicts then this is something which is really that commendable.
We do know that giving out some guides or counseling does really consume up time and resource and effort on which giving out
or having it for free is something that good to look at somehow.

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November 10, 2023, 10:47:34 AM
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There are no problems with registration. But i don`t want to register. At least i don`t want to leave any data for unknown site. I get enough spam letters yet to add some more. And without registration i can`t see anything interesting except several videos. Everybody can choose himself to register and test site, or just leave it. The OP asked feedback - he got it.
I think the data they get from the registration is the only thing that they can get from providing free access or free guide on how to quit gambling. Most of us will put dummy details into the registration form to achieve anonymity and I don't see a problem with that but I think the developers are thinking to use the data to improve their contents and monitor the flow of users in their application. The website has a good intention and I think that a few minutes and false information is enough for us to get contents on how to quit gambling.
I haven`t try it. But i don`t sure that everything is like it looks. If they just want to help and give you such content for free - they don`t need to make us register. And i think that at least i will get spam messages.
And i repeat it one more time. You can register if you want, it is your decision. I don`t want to register, it is my decision. We both can choose what to do ourselves. It is my feedback for the OP. He can change something or not, it is his decision.

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November 10, 2023, 11:02:10 AM
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I do not see any big problems with registration if they do not ask much of your personal information. You can use any random or a no use email to register and get access to what they offer if you really need it.
Think about it, even the bitcointalk forum requires that you register to enjoy the main benefits of the forum, else you will be in read-only mode.

I like the website because they recognise that there is gambling problem and they want to solve it. That is a good one...
There are no problems with registration. But i don`t want to register. At least i don`t want to leave any data for unknown site. I get enough spam letters yet to add some more. And without registration i can`t see anything interesting except several videos. Everybody can choose himself to register and test site, or just leave it. The OP asked feedback - he got it.
I think the data they get from the registration is the only thing that they can get from providing free access or free guide on how to quit gambling. Most of us will put dummy details into the registration form to achieve anonymity and I don't see a problem with that but I think the developers are thinking to use the data to improve their contents and monitor the flow of users in their application. The website has a good intention and I think that a few minutes and false information is enough for us to get contents on how to quit gambling.
If you are providing a dummy personal details, one thing is certain, and that is the fact that the email address you provide must be a valid one, as you will have to verify the email before your registration can be considered as valid.
And based on what I think, it's the email address that the site is after, since they will never ask you to kyc or anything like that, the email address is what they need.

So, if at all you are signing up, you don't have much a choice but to provide a valid email, since that is also the only way you can receive contents they send out to their users to help them gamble, you either do this or don't register at all.

And besides, what is the essence of using or registering on the site if you are not addicted to gambling? I personal believe that gamblers who are indeed addicted will not give registration on the site a second thought, as long as its solution that will help them come out from their addiction they are after.

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November 10, 2023, 11:12:21 AM
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There are no problems with registration. But i don`t want to register. At least i don`t want to leave any data for unknown site. I get enough spam letters yet to add some more. And without registration i can`t see anything interesting except several videos. Everybody can choose himself to register and test site, or just leave it. The OP asked feedback - he got it.
I think the data they get from the registration is the only thing that they can get from providing free access or free guide on how to quit gambling. Most of us will put dummy details into the registration form to achieve anonymity and I don't see a problem with that but I think the developers are thinking to use the data to improve their contents and monitor the flow of users in their application. The website has a good intention and I think that a few minutes and false information is enough for us to get contents on how to quit gambling.
I haven`t try it. But i don`t sure that everything is like it looks. If they just want to help and give you such content for free - they don`t need to make us register. And i think that at least i will get spam messages.
And i repeat it one more time. You can register if you want, it is your decision. I don`t want to register, it is my decision. We both can choose what to do ourselves. It is my feedback for the OP. He can change something or not, it is his decision.
A person's advice to quit gambling doesn't do much if someone doesn't try it themselves, there is a website with some scripts on how to help a gambler quit gambling.  Quitting gambling requires hard work on your part.  Gambling is one thing that can easily make a person addicted to its deep addiction.  To save ourselves from this addiction, we have to be careful from the beginning of gambling.  But when a person becomes deeply addicted, it becomes very difficult for him to quit gambling.  So I think it's enough if someone tries to gamble on their own.  I don't think it's very logical to quit gambling with the help of a website



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November 10, 2023, 04:51:25 PM
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Gambling addiction is something that cant really be that something that would be resolved out. Professional services about gambling addiction is something that we do know that they do exist
and there are indeed gamblers who are making use of those services or paying up just to make themselves getting out of addiction but actually there's no other way or method
that would help us out on able to quit up gambling but rather we would really be that have that will on stopping on point. Its a matter of discipline and control
when it comes to this manner.

If there are some services which do offer free service for these gambling addicts then this is something which is really that commendable.
We do know that giving out some guides or counseling does really consume up time and resource and effort on which giving out
or having it for free is something that good to look at somehow.
  There's an evidence-supported method designed for us to make changes in ourselves in such a way that it can encourage loved ones to reduce their addictive behaviors. It's called the Community Reinforcement Approach with Family(Friend) Training (CRAFT). It's being used in a free skills training tools support group program called SMART Recovery Family & Friends.The tools are things like establishing healthy boundaries, practicing self-care, learning and practicing healthier communication skills. Protecting our own safety.
   Not trying to talk to someone while they're intoxicated or in the middle of acting out their addiction, because they are not in a place to hear or learn anything then, and it only opens us up to getting hurt. Being consistent in choosing ways we can be loving and help them without helping the addiction. Nagging, pleading, and threatening are ineffective and tend to support the loved one's addiction (which often feeds off negative attention as much as positive attention).
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November 10, 2023, 04:53:37 PM
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It's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.

It is mostly because agencies which are supposed to help people with problems like alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide ideation and gambling addiction are commonly unfunded, since most of them are non-profit organizations.

How can the agencies regulate gambling, this is beyond their power or reach, they may try to but it's not an easy thing to make regulations in this kind of situations, the agencies cannot be responsible for the way we gamble, wether to our own advantage or not they don't care, they only work to apprehend those found abusing or violating the ethics of gambling by getting engaged in any of the above mentioned characters.

I am not talking about regulations on the casinos themselves, actually. I am talking about groups and organizations which are supposed to help people to cope with addictions and situations which have negatively affected their standards of living, which are the one unfunded and lacking economical resources.
On the other hand, if we talk about government agencies which are supposed to be a branch of the government, then it would be foolish to refer to them as unfunded organizations. They are funded by the taxpayers' dollars and are one of the most important branches, it just takes to look at the American IRS, which funding goes up the billions of dollars.

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November 10, 2023, 07:04:16 PM
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the site looks interesting. But the main thing i don`t like that i need to register. And everywhere i see the button of registration. And i can`t test site totally without registration.
It is possible that there are lots of opportunities after registration and i think that at least part of them really need registration(like different challenges). But the same time i must have an opportunity to use some services without registration - i don`t like it. So i just looked at the site and closed it.

I see your point. Pure waste of time. And it can be frustrating when you're required to register just to explore a website. While registration can offer benefits websites should allow users to access some features without it to make the initial experience more user-friendly.

If they really want to help us they don't need us to register IMO.

It's probably for the purpose of statistics and allows them to gather some information about people who need help, their background and all that. Also, it allows them to send people questions later if and how they've managed to recover, get some feedback about the things they could improve.

Getting testimonials from people is another important thing. Sites like this can apply for government grants and testimonials are along with user stats are an important part of that process.
Making you register = money in one way of the other. If all fails, they can sell the data to a casino for targeted ads and email spam Wink It's the worst possible scenario, but the keyword is "possible."

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November 10, 2023, 08:02:32 PM
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I see your point. Pure waste of time. And it can be frustrating when you're required to register just to explore a website. While registration can offer benefits websites should allow users to access some features without it to make the initial experience more user-friendly.

If they really want to help us they don't need us to register IMO.
I think not all addicts can be generalized to the same level of addiction, instead they should be treated differently. You know that there have been many articles on gambling addiction tips, are they effective in treating all addicts or do some of them  still have to go to a consultant?

I really don't think that consulting services should be tested by ordinary users.

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November 10, 2023, 09:27:49 PM
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the site looks interesting. But the main thing i don`t like that i need to register. And everywhere i see the button of registration. And i can`t test site totally without registration.
It's normal to have a registration button since they're going to give away a lot of materials for free for those who want to quit gambling and this could really be a great help for them. The data that they'll gather through registration could be used by them to have that data sent to the advertisers for them to earn with this free service. This is what we get from free services, we're the product but at the same time it's like give and take for both users and the platform itself. They have a good initiative and advocacy on this one because many gamblers really need help.

While many of those don't have money anymore to seek for professional help, a free service like this is their go-to for their own assessment and help that they need to have. It's just free to register so if it's something that couldn't really make you test them, it's okay as there's no forcing of people to register.

Although they have materials that you can go through their website without having the need to register. All of those information that are displayed, that's all what you will get without registration and they're not that bad at all.

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November 10, 2023, 09:29:15 PM
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I see your point. Pure waste of time. And it can be frustrating when you're required to register just to explore a website. While registration can offer benefits websites should allow users to access some features without it to make the initial experience more user-friendly.

If they really want to help us they don't need us to register IMO.
I think not all addicts can be generalized to the same level of addiction, instead they should be treated differently. You know that there have been many articles on gambling addiction tips, are they effective in treating all addicts or do some of them  still have to go to a consultant?

I really don't think that consulting services should be tested by ordinary users.
If there’s no registration fee, then why afraid to register beside you can just use other information if you want to remain anonymous and want’s to solve your problem in private with a help of course of this kind of program. The sites needs the traffic for them to make a money, not unless they offer a program with a fee. It should be fine if ordinary people wants to access this site maybe they just want to get an information on how they can save themselves from getting addict in gambling and hoping that this site can really help them.
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I consider your strategy on how to stop gambling addiction a great move and marketing your product in a space where gambling service are offered to the detriment of the user is a wise decision.

I will like to know if this is a professional consultancy service or just opinions and possibly methodology used on former addicts.

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November 10, 2023, 09:39:24 PM
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I see your point. Pure waste of time. And it can be frustrating when you're required to register just to explore a website. While registration can offer benefits websites should allow users to access some features without it to make the initial experience more user-friendly.

If they really want to help us they don't need us to register IMO.
I think not all addicts can be generalized to the same level of addiction, instead they should be treated differently. You know that there have been many articles on gambling addiction tips, are they effective in treating all addicts or do some of them  still have to go to a consultant?

I really don't think that consulting services should be tested by ordinary users.
If there’s no registration fee, then why afraid to register beside you can just use other information if you want to remain anonymous and want’s to solve your problem in private with a help of course of this kind of program. The sites needs the traffic for them to make a money, not unless they offer a program with a fee. It should be fine if ordinary people wants to access this site maybe they just want to get an information on how they can save themselves from getting addict in gambling and hoping that this site can really help them.
As long it is free then i dont see any harm on something yet we know that even we do live into this world which free things is unlikely but there are still some individuals who are really that passionate on giving out some help without having those extra cost and this is where these kind of services do really been mold on on which it is really that something commendable and something that could be appreciated. We do know that
no one will really be that exerting effort and using up their finances or funding on something that would be given for free on which just like on what others been saying that it is really truly commendable on what
they've been doing on here. It is surely that helpful to those people who have found out themselves to be that in gambling addiction.

Actually you could really be able to quit on your own if you are really that willing or serious on quitting on which you wont really be needing any help for you to quit
but since each person is different when it comes to mindset and other correlated things then these things would really be that relevant such as this.

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November 11, 2023, 08:01:51 AM
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There are no problems with registration. But i don`t want to register. At least i don`t want to leave any data for unknown site. I get enough spam letters yet to add some more. And without registration i can`t see anything interesting except several videos. Everybody can choose himself to register and test site, or just leave it. The OP asked feedback - he got it.
I think the data they get from the registration is the only thing that they can get from providing free access or free guide on how to quit gambling. Most of us will put dummy details into the registration form to achieve anonymity and I don't see a problem with that but I think the developers are thinking to use the data to improve their contents and monitor the flow of users in their application. The website has a good intention and I think that a few minutes and false information is enough for us to get contents on how to quit gambling.
I haven`t try it. But i don`t sure that everything is like it looks. If they just want to help and give you such content for free - they don`t need to make us register. And i think that at least i will get spam messages.
And i repeat it one more time. You can register if you want, it is your decision. I don`t want to register, it is my decision. We both can choose what to do ourselves. It is my feedback for the OP. He can change something or not, it is his decision.
A person's advice to quit gambling doesn't do much if someone doesn't try it themselves, there is a website with some scripts on how to help a gambler quit gambling.  Quitting gambling requires hard work on your part.  Gambling is one thing that can easily make a person addicted to its deep addiction.  To save ourselves from this addiction, we have to be careful from the beginning of gambling.  But when a person becomes deeply addicted, it becomes very difficult for him to quit gambling.  So I think it's enough if someone tries to gamble on their own.  I don't think it's very logical to quit gambling with the help of a website
It doesn`t matter how someone decide to quit gambling. If someone need assistance - ok, he can use the site, the book, something else. In such situation all choices can be right decision. I don`t need it and haven`t try, so i can`t recommend the best way.
But right here we see the site, that requires registration and promises to help. I don`t sure that it is really help, without any requirements.

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November 11, 2023, 08:28:14 AM
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It is a great initiative no matter how it goes.I don't know if many people will be able to quit gambling for good through your site but a sure thing is that it is better to have this site than don't have it at all.I don't agree though that addicted people cannot go to responsible gambling first and I speak this from personal experience as I was once heavily addicted and since then I have switched to a preset budget which is the same as responsible gambling,meaning I only play this budget now which is money I can afford to lose and I feel good doing this from some years now.

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I guess this is a new approach that @OP is trying to develop. Instead of testing his level of addiction, we will be asked to test his level of happiness. And I tried the test to see what my level of happiness was.

But unfortunately, we have to register first to see the results. Maybe later, I will decide to register. But I think I can still handle gambling well so I'm not a serious gambling addict.

Thanks for sharing it with us @OP. Hopefully, your site can help people reduce their gambling addiction. They can use your site well and it can provide benefits for them.


That's a different approach that was probably given some scientific study. Because it actually looks like that "Happiness Level" is a practical way of measuring if a person has the vulnerability to be a gambling addict, OR an addict of other things in general like alcohol and/or drugs.

It also makes sense, because if a person is generally unhappy in his life, then he/she is a low dopamine individual. Therefore, a quick dopamine rush from making a bet, which will also require a larger and larger bet to get the same amount of rush, will definitely get him/her addicted and break himself/herself financially.

Good approach, OP.

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November 11, 2023, 01:32:02 PM
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The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, and soon French and Portuguese.

It would be great for you to add another language which is Filipino as there are more gamblers here in the Philippines who are struggling to control their addiction.

As I have checked your website, it looks neat and decent to me at least. I choose not to register though as I do not want to input my real details into it.

When it comes to your app in the Google Play Store, despite having 1,000 downloads there is no honest and genuine feedback from those who are actually downloading and installing it compare to the Apple App Store, you did have a couple of 5-star reviews.

In this area alone, you really need to push for organic honest (and not paid) reviews in the Google Play Store. Just my own honest opinion.




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November 11, 2023, 02:54:14 PM
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The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, and soon French and Portuguese.

It would be great for you to add another language which is Filipino as there are more gamblers here in the Philippines who are struggling to control their addiction.

As I have checked your website, it looks neat and decent to me at least. I choose not to register though as I do not want to input my real details into it.

When it comes to your app in the Google Play Store, despite having 1,000 downloads there is no honest and genuine feedback from those who are actually downloading and installing it compare to the Apple App Store, you did have a couple of 5-star reviews.

In this area alone, you really need to push for organic honest (and not paid) reviews in the Google Play Store. Just my own honest opinion.

In my view, I think the site look and feel can be improvised further. The design looks a little dull.
The content is good though as there are many videos and membership forum.
Coming to the language, I agree with you that few more languages can be added.
OP can either create a poll on this post itself or create new one or may be fetch data as to where the number of gambling addicts are higher.

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November 11, 2023, 03:10:20 PM
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It is a great initiative no matter how it goes.I don't know if many people will be able to quit gambling for good through your site but a sure thing is that it is better to have this site than don't have it at all.I don't agree though that addicted people cannot go to responsible gambling first and I speak this from personal experience as I was once heavily addicted and since then I have switched to a preset budget which is the same as responsible gambling,meaning I only play this budget now which is money I can afford to lose and I feel good doing this from some years now.
Definitely a great one but I do believe that their website could do more cleaning because it still looks like it's still 2003 and it looks to me like those old health magazines with pastel colors, if only I am knowledgeable in web developing or something related to creating website, I would've been able to offer my help for you although it's probably going to take me awhile to do it. That's pretty quick work of you to go from being heavily addicted to gambling then suddenly becoming a recovering addict by just having a set budget which I think is admirable but at the same time make me a skeptic that it's a possibility.



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The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, and soon French and Portuguese.

It would be great for you to add another language which is Filipino as there are more gamblers here in the Philippines who are struggling to control their addiction.

As I have checked your website, it looks neat and decent to me at least. I choose not to register though as I do not want to input my real details into it.

When it comes to your app in the Google Play Store, despite having 1,000 downloads there is no honest and genuine feedback from those who are actually downloading and installing it compare to the Apple App Store, you did have a couple of 5-star reviews.

In this area alone, you really need to push for organic honest (and not paid) reviews in the Google Play Store. Just my own honest opinion

Wont really be that much of an issue if he do lacks feedback but at least on their app on apple app store does have a couple of 5 star reviews then we dont know if its real or not but at least
if this ones turns out to be real then it would really be enough to tell that this is really that something relevant. Just like on what those other words been saying that since this one is totally free
then it is really that something useful if there's someone who would really be tending to make use of this site. The thing i dont like on sharing up your information?
I doubt that majority of people would really be doing such thing unless if they dont really care about privacy.


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The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, and soon French and Portuguese.

It would be great for you to add another language which is Filipino as there are more gamblers here in the Philippines who are struggling to control their addiction.

As I have checked your website, it looks neat and decent to me at least. I choose not to register though as I do not want to input my real details into it.

When it comes to your app in the Google Play Store, despite having 1,000 downloads there is no honest and genuine feedback from those who are actually downloading and installing it compare to the Apple App Store, you did have a couple of 5-star reviews.

In this area alone, you really need to push for organic honest (and not paid) reviews in the Google Play Store. Just my own honest opinion.

In my view, I think the site look and feel can be improvised further. The design looks a little dull.
The content is good though as there are many videos and membership forum.
Coming to the language, I agree with you that few more languages can be added.
OP can either create a poll on this post itself or create new one or may be fetch data as to where the number of gambling addicts are higher.
I agree with knowing the data of which game has more gamblers. It could be a lead to have a more efficient strategy to help gamblers avoid addiction. With the site’s UI and appearance, it is indeed needing some enhancements to make reading more comfortable. Some would say the content would matter more than the appearance but technically speaking, the interior of a platform plays a huge role. It would make a platform easier to understand and would be more encouraging and interesting to check out. If it is just ways to cope up with addiction of an unwanted behavior, there are other ebooks and articles to help you but things would be better asking those who experienced such state of mind, to learn from their mistakes. All in all, this is indeed a good project.

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I will like to know if this is a professional consultancy service or just opinions and possibly methodology used on former addicts.

Most likely it is going to be a compilation of experiences of addicts and those who have been able to get help, of course about what they did to be free from addiction and gambling in general. Most of these service that is built on the problem of gambler's perspective are practical steps and strategies used by gamblers who have been affected earlier. I have gone through the link and it covers a very wide range of causes, effect and solutions to gamblers seeking help.

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I am not talking about regulations on the casinos themselves, actually. I am talking about groups and organizations which are supposed to help people to cope with addictions and situations which have negatively affected their standards of living, which are the ones unfunded and lacking economic resources.
On the other hand, if we talk about government agencies which are supposed to be a branch of the government, then it would be foolish to refer to them as unfunded organizations. They are funded by the taxpayers' dollars and are one of the most important branches, it just takes to look at the American IRS, which funding goes up the billions of dollars.
When you mentioned a group that helps people fight addictions do you mean something in the form of a none governmental group that promotes and shares the ideas and supports that get people out of the huk of addiction because it is the only way an external body will get involved in the life of the gamblers whois already addicted.

But then also,  we have some government agencies such as the correctional centres,  and rehabilitation centres that focus on treating cases of addictions that gambling addictions fall between.
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There are no problems with registration. But i don`t want to register. At least i don`t want to leave any data for unknown site. I get enough spam letters yet to add some more. And without registration i can`t see anything interesting except several videos. Everybody can choose himself to register and test site, or just leave it. The OP asked feedback - he got it.
I think the data they get from the registration is the only thing that they can get from providing free access or free guide on how to quit gambling. Most of us will put dummy details into the registration form to achieve anonymity and I don't see a problem with that but I think the developers are thinking to use the data to improve their contents and monitor the flow of users in their application. The website has a good intention and I think that a few minutes and false information is enough for us to get contents on how to quit gambling.
I haven`t try it. But i don`t sure that everything is like it looks. If they just want to help and give you such content for free - they don`t need to make us register. And i think that at least i will get spam messages.
And i repeat it one more time. You can register if you want, it is your decision. I don`t want to register, it is my decision. We both can choose what to do ourselves. It is my feedback for the OP. He can change something or not, it is his decision.
A person's advice to quit gambling doesn't do much if someone doesn't try it themselves, there is a website with some scripts on how to help a gambler quit gambling.  Quitting gambling requires hard work on your part.  Gambling is one thing that can easily make a person addicted to its deep addiction.  To save ourselves from this addiction, we have to be careful from the beginning of gambling.  But when a person becomes deeply addicted, it becomes very difficult for him to quit gambling.  So I think it's enough if someone tries to gamble on their own.  I don't think it's very logical to quit gambling with the help of a website
It doesn`t matter how someone decide to quit gambling. If someone need assistance - ok, he can use the site, the book, something else. In such situation all choices can be right decision. I don`t need it and haven`t try, so i can`t recommend the best way.
But right here we see the site, that requires registration and promises to help. I don`t sure that it is really help, without any requirements.
If someone is trying to get rid of gambling from his mind and looking for different ways then this site can work for him.  But there are very few people who want to quit gambling. And those who want to leave Ajwa can leave themselves.  But thanks also to whoever made this site because it might save someone's life from deep gambling addiction. I am not speaking against this site but if one is not trying to quit gambling then this site is of no use to him.



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November 12, 2023, 08:16:16 PM
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I am not talking about regulations on the casinos themselves, actually. I am talking about groups and organizations which are supposed to help people to cope with addictions and situations which have negatively affected their standards of living, which are the ones unfunded and lacking economic resources.
On the other hand, if we talk about government agencies which are supposed to be a branch of the government, then it would be foolish to refer to them as unfunded organizations. They are funded by the taxpayers' dollars and are one of the most important branches, it just takes to look at the American IRS, which funding goes up the billions of dollars.
When you mentioned a group that helps people fight addictions do you mean something in the form of a none governmental group that promotes and shares the ideas and supports that get people out of the huk of addiction because it is the only way an external body will get involved in the life of the gamblers whois already addicted.

But then also,  we have some government agencies such as the correctional centres,  and rehabilitation centres that focus on treating cases of addictions that gambling addictions fall between.

Yes, that is what I meant, private and non profit organizations which try to improve the quality of life of those who struggle with any kind of addiction. Also, I those rehabilitation centers which are supported by the government, depending on the country one lives in, they can be either pretty good or pretty bad for the well being of their inmates. In my country, mental health is a topic which can be very stigmatized and the rehabilitation centers are more like prisons for families to throw their addicted children or parents, instead a place where people get the ttention they need to reincorporate themselves into society.
I have a friend who was in one of them and the living conditions are low.

Since you mentioned rehab centers, I assume there are some of them as well in your country of origin, would you care to let me know how good they are and whether you consider they may help to talke the problem of those who are addicted to substances or to gambling?

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November 12, 2023, 08:23:49 PM
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I am not talking about regulations on the casinos themselves, actually. I am talking about groups and organizations which are supposed to help people to cope with addictions and situations which have negatively affected their standards of living, which are the ones unfunded and lacking economic resources.
On the other hand, if we talk about government agencies which are supposed to be a branch of the government, then it would be foolish to refer to them as unfunded organizations. They are funded by the taxpayers' dollars and are one of the most important branches, it just takes to look at the American IRS, which funding goes up the billions of dollars.
When you mentioned a group that helps people fight addictions do you mean something in the form of a none governmental group that promotes and shares the ideas and supports that get people out of the huk of addiction because it is the only way an external body will get involved in the life of the gamblers whois already addicted.

But then also,  we have some government agencies such as the correctional centres,  and rehabilitation centres that focus on treating cases of addictions that gambling addictions fall between.

Yes, that is what I meant, private and non profit organizations which try to improve the quality of life of those who struggle with any kind of addiction. Also, I those rehabilitation centers which are supported by the government, depending on the country one lives in, they can be either pretty good or pretty bad for the well being of their inmates. In my country, mental health is a topic which can be very stigmatized and the rehabilitation centers are more like prisons for families to throw their addicted children or parents, instead a place where people get the ttention they need to reincorporate themselves into society.
I have a friend who was in one of them and the living conditions are low.

Since you mentioned rehab centers, I assume there are some of them as well in your country of origin, would you care to let me know how good they are and whether you consider they may help to tackle the problem of those who are addicted to substances or to gambling?
I used to see a lot of such NGOs that help addicts to overcome addictions in the form of long-term treatment which requires a lot of work from the end of the agency that seeks to help the gambler,  and this is very important and measures that aid the addicts after they already have the self acknowledgement and willingness to overcome that hold of addictions,  most times those organisation even go as far as changing the environment where the treatment will take place.

But when you talk about government own rehabs,  around here,  their presence is not luad or felt like that of the NGOs,  I know there are government own rehabs,  but I am also aware that some of them are not up to 100% standard to be able to offer such an escape ruit for the addicts.
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November 12, 2023, 09:24:09 PM
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It's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.

It is mostly because agencies which are supposed to help people with problems like alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide ideation and gambling addiction are commonly unfunded, since most of them are non-profit organizations. That kind of entities mostly rely on donations and rarely get active funding from the government. So for example, of there are 100 people who are addicted to gambling and need counseling, the organization (in order to manage their limited services in a wise way) only hire 4 operators to take care of the questions and problems of those 100 gamblers who are seeking help.
The result is obvious, many (if not all) of those gambler will feel neglected by the system they attend to for help.
That is why I personally believe the most important thing to have when facing these problems is a good relationship with family and friends, to supplement the counseling one could get, public or private.

I think government has left much of the role of rehabitating addicts to NGOS. Government is said to be corrupt and can not freely handle organizations like that because money meant for such agencies end up in private accounts while affected persons languish in their own helplessness. Lately, it is the NGOs that have taken up such duties to cater for people who need such help. One thing about NGOs that is better than government in such case is that they have close contacts with the those affected unlike the government that seem far and ineffective because of corruption.

However funding is still the challenge of NGOs except those own by philanthropist and wealthy people then they can comfortably finance and take care of persons of such challenge.

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November 13, 2023, 12:35:42 AM
 #104

It's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.

It is mostly because agencies which are supposed to help people with problems like alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide ideation and gambling addiction are commonly unfunded, since most of them are non-profit organizations. That kind of entities mostly rely on donations and rarely get active funding from the government. So for example, of there are 100 people who are addicted to gambling and need counseling, the organization (in order to manage their limited services in a wise way) only hire 4 operators to take care of the questions and problems of those 100 gamblers who are seeking help.
The result is obvious, many (if not all) of those gambler will feel neglected by the system they attend to for help.
That is why I personally believe the most important thing to have when facing these problems is a good relationship with family and friends, to supplement the counseling one could get, public or private.

I think government has left much of the role of rehabitating addicts to NGOS. Government is said to be corrupt and can not freely handle organizations like that because money meant for such agencies end up in private accounts while affected persons languish in their own helplessness. Lately, it is the NGOs that have taken up such duties to cater for people who need such help. One thing about NGOs that is better than government in such case is that they have close contacts with the those affected unlike the government that seem far and ineffective because of corruption.

However funding is still the challenge of NGOs except those own by philanthropist and wealthy people then they can comfortably finance and take care of persons of such challenge.

One also needs to point out that the relationship governments have with NGOs can vary, depending on the political standing and the personal interest of those who are in power within the country. Perhaps, there must be some cases where people working as member of the congress get directly benefited from casinos and gambling activity in the country, so they do not care to fund organizations or hospitals which would help people in need because their addiction. Even if a NGO is well funded and willing to help in a specific country, some leaders do not think of their presence kindly, since it can imply the administration in such country is a failure when comes to social problems. That was the case in my country: the central government campaigned on being highly sensitive towards social problems and promised to take care of those how needed assistance, when they failed to make their promises a reality, those with addictions to substances and gambling had to seek for help in NGOs headquarters, there is when the friction between them and the government started. Specially because those NGOs openly speak of the atrocities the government allow to happen by not providing money to their own hospitals and psychiatric facilities.

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November 13, 2023, 04:03:04 AM
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It is a great initiative no matter how it goes.I don't know if many people will be able to quit gambling for good through your site but a sure thing is that it is better to have this site than don't have it at all.I don't agree though that addicted people cannot go to responsible gambling first and I speak this from personal experience as I was once heavily addicted and since then I have switched to a preset budget which is the same as responsible gambling,meaning I only play this budget now which is money I can afford to lose and I feel good doing this from some years now.
We don't have to worry how many people are going to quit gambling because of this splendid effort, what matters is that this kind of thing exists and even if they save one, they still save someone from gambling addiction that meant that the efforts put into this wasn't in vain or anything. I don't know about you but I feel like being responsible in your gambling habits, it would mean that you're unlikely to be addicted right? Being a responsible person isn't a habit that someone easily turn off just because they've done something new, it's an innate and something that was learned during your childhood and it's difficult to remove and it's a different talk when you're just starting to learn how to be responsible.



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November 13, 2023, 05:09:54 AM
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It is a great initiative no matter how it goes.I don't know if many people will be able to quit gambling for good through your site but a sure thing is that it is better to have this site than don't have it at all.I don't agree though that addicted people cannot go to responsible gambling first and I speak this from personal experience as I was once heavily addicted and since then I have switched to a preset budget which is the same as responsible gambling,meaning I only play this budget now which is money I can afford to lose and I feel good doing this from some years now.
We don't have to worry how many people are going to quit gambling because of this splendid effort, what matters is that this kind of thing exists and even if they save one, they still save someone from gambling addiction that meant that the efforts put into this wasn't in vain or anything. I don't know about you but I feel like being responsible in your gambling habits, it would mean that you're unlikely to be addicted right? Being a responsible person isn't a habit that someone easily turn off just because they've done something new, it's an innate and something that was learned during your childhood and it's difficult to remove and it's a different talk when you're just starting to learn how to be responsible.
and this motivation will attract others to have same initiatives , it is better that there are one
that started the run so others will follow because we knew how many gambling addiction victims around the world and
with how this works there are other Family members,Friend or even Gambling addict themselves) that will take place
in generating same project Helping  others to be (not free gambling) but to be a more responsible gamber.

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November 13, 2023, 05:16:14 AM
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and this motivation will attract others to have same initiatives , it is better that there are one
that started the run so others will follow because we knew how many gambling addiction victims around the world and
with how this works there are other Family members,Friend or even Gambling addict themselves) that will take place
in generating same project Helping  others to be (not free gambling) but to be a more responsible gamber.
Exactly, that's what I was trying to say in my last post, this initiative will serve as an inspiration or a spark so other people will try to do the same thing even if there are different cause that they want to be doing it. Like a small spark in a dry grassland, hopefully QuitGamble will be that spark that's going to ignite a wildfire.



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November 13, 2023, 06:04:49 AM
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and this motivation will attract others to have same initiatives , it is better that there are one
that started the run so others will follow because we knew how many gambling addiction victims around the world and
with how this works there are other Family members,Friend or even Gambling addict themselves) that will take place
in generating same project Helping  others to be (not free gambling) but to be a more responsible gamber.
Exactly, that's what I was trying to say in my last post, this initiative will serve as an inspiration or a spark so other people will try to do the same thing even if there are different cause that they want to be doing it. Like a small spark in a dry grassland, hopefully QuitGamble will be that spark that's going to ignite a wildfire.
and also with their sincerity then success will come to this project and also for others that will be Open minded that gambling is not just as simple as they think and Gamblers should not be blamed completely because no one wanted to be addicted and the obligation here is to help them out and theres no need of blaming as this is really a serious problem as the world facing addiction problem.a friend of mine also faced this problem but lucky that he is now sober and yeah a gambling free human.

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November 13, 2023, 08:46:58 AM
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I think not all addicts can be generalized to the same level of addiction, instead they should be treated differently.
I agree with you. There are levels of addiction, no matter what one is addicted to. A person would first start doing that thing, then they start liking it, after a few days of continuously doing it, they will feel restless if they don't do it for a day, but that is the initial stage of addiction. As the time passes by and if they don't control their emotions and keep a fair distance from that thing, they will get very deep and there will be a time when they won't be able to resist the urge to do that thing.

Whether it's gambling, drugs, games, or anything in general, if you do it excessively, you will have a high probability of getting addicted to it. One can even get addicted to another human, especially if it's opposite gender. Talk to a girl or a boy, based on your gender, consecutively for a month or so and you will find yourself in a strange situation if you don't get to talk to them for even a day after that.

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November 13, 2023, 09:47:22 AM
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I am not talking about regulations on the casinos themselves, actually. I am talking about groups and organizations which are supposed to help people to cope with addictions and situations which have negatively affected their standards of living, which are the ones unfunded and lacking economic resources.
On the other hand, if we talk about government agencies which are supposed to be a branch of the government, then it would be foolish to refer to them as unfunded organizations. They are funded by the taxpayers' dollars and are one of the most important branches, it just takes to look at the American IRS, which funding goes up the billions of dollars.
When you mentioned a group that helps people fight addictions do you mean something in the form of a none governmental group that promotes and shares the ideas and supports that get people out of the huk of addiction because it is the only way an external body will get involved in the life of the gamblers whois already addicted.

But then also,  we have some government agencies such as the correctional centres,  and rehabilitation centres that focus on treating cases of addictions that gambling addictions fall between.

Yes, that is what I meant, private and non profit organizations which try to improve the quality of life of those who struggle with any kind of addiction. Also, I those rehabilitation centers which are supported by the government, depending on the country one lives in, they can be either pretty good or pretty bad for the well being of their inmates. In my country, mental health is a topic which can be very stigmatized and the rehabilitation centers are more like prisons for families to throw their addicted children or parents, instead a place where people get the ttention they need to reincorporate themselves into society.
I have a friend who was in one of them and the living conditions are low.

Since you mentioned rehab centers, I assume there are some of them as well in your country of origin, would you care to let me know how good they are and whether you consider they may help to talke the problem of those who are addicted to substances or to gambling?
In my country, the situation with rehab centers is a mixed bag, much like what you've described. Some are excellent, while others are weak. It's a big, big problem. We have private and government-supported centers. Private ones are usually more equipped but more expensive. Not everyone can afford them. Government-run centers differ greatly. Top-notch work is being done in some places. Some are more like prisons than healing sanctuaries, as you showed. It's about funding, worker training, and government commitment to mental health and addiction

Online gambling is an increasing issue. It's easy to use and addictive. The government must control it more tightly. Real people are trapped in addiction. It's severe and requires significant action. Do these centers help? Both yes and no. Good ones are fantastic. People are supported in reintegrating into society. The bad ones just hold cells

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November 13, 2023, 09:54:38 AM
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Exactly, that's what I was trying to say in my last post, this initiative will serve as an inspiration or a spark so other people will try to do the same thing even if there are different cause that they want to be doing it. Like a small spark in a dry grassland, hopefully QuitGamble will be that spark that's going to ignite a wildfire.
It is not easy to quit but with their help and people surrounds us? Am sure this will spread and may help as many gamblers in the world.
thanks to this team and the others that will go forward to do the same thing as how this works.
would love seeing this taking in action and serving addicted gamblers in the near future.

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Exactly, that's what I was trying to say in my last post, this initiative will serve as an inspiration or a spark so other people will try to do the same thing even if there are different cause that they want to be doing it. Like a small spark in a dry grassland, hopefully QuitGamble will be that spark that's going to ignite a wildfire.
It is not easy to quit but with their help and people surrounds us? Am sure this will spread and may help as many gamblers in the world.
thanks to this team and the others that will go forward to do the same thing as how this works.
would love seeing this taking in action and serving addicted gamblers in the near future.
Well, yeah, and just to mention that this is not the only group that have come to together to want to help addicted gambler quit gambling, in fact, i think OP did make mention of this fact in the op, if we go over to Reddit, we will find thousands of this groups, many of them having hundreds of thousands of members, but yet, it's still like gambling addiction is increasing in our society on daily basis, which but proves one thing that, in the end of it all, if a gambling addict does not stand up and help him or herself quit, no group or body can or may be able to help such a person.

And coming back to this group though, the op said that everything on this quitgamble.com will be completely free, i am curious to know how or where they will be getting funding from? like we all know that even a charity organization needs funding.

Sorry if this question have been asked and answered before, i completely missed it, anyone can just point me back to the answer please.

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I am not talking about regulations on the casinos themselves, actually. I am talking about groups and organizations which are supposed to help people to cope with addictions and situations which have negatively affected their standards of living, which are the ones unfunded and lacking economic resources.
On the other hand, if we talk about government agencies which are supposed to be a branch of the government, then it would be foolish to refer to them as unfunded organizations. They are funded by the taxpayers' dollars and are one of the most important branches, it just takes to look at the American IRS, which funding goes up the billions of dollars.
When you mentioned a group that helps people fight addictions do you mean something in the form of a none governmental group that promotes and shares the ideas and supports that get people out of the huk of addiction because it is the only way an external body will get involved in the life of the gamblers whois already addicted.

But then also,  we have some government agencies such as the correctional centres,  and rehabilitation centres that focus on treating cases of addictions that gambling addictions fall between.

Yes, that is what I meant, private and non profit organizations which try to improve the quality of life of those who struggle with any kind of addiction. Also, I those rehabilitation centers which are supported by the government, depending on the country one lives in, they can be either pretty good or pretty bad for the well being of their inmates. In my country, mental health is a topic which can be very stigmatized and the rehabilitation centers are more like prisons for families to throw their addicted children or parents, instead a place where people get the ttention they need to reincorporate themselves into society.
I have a friend who was in one of them and the living conditions are low.

Since you mentioned rehab centers, I assume there are some of them as well in your country of origin, would you care to let me know how good they are and whether you consider they may help to talke the problem of those who are addicted to substances or to gambling?
In my country, the situation with rehab centers is a mixed bag, much like what you've described. Some are excellent, while others are weak. It's a big, big problem. We have private and government-supported centers. Private ones are usually more equipped but more expensive. Not everyone can afford them. Government-run centers differ greatly. Top-notch work is being done in some places. Some are more like prisons than healing sanctuaries, as you showed. It's about funding, worker training, and government commitment to mental health and addiction

Online gambling is an increasing issue. It's easy to use and addictive. The government must control it more tightly. Real people are trapped in addiction. It's severe and requires significant action. Do these centers help? Both yes and no. Good ones are fantastic. People are supported in reintegrating into society. The bad ones just hold cells

Also, we should consider something which I just thought of. Even if the government of a country is committed to tackle the problem and try to provide good facilities for people to get back in the right tracks of their life it may be not enough if the staff of those centers do not fully know about the history of their patient. For example, here where I live it is relatively easy for people to access to hard drugs, in special those which are derived from the Coca plant. A person suffering from problem gambling may devolve into a drugs user, in order to cope with the losses he had and his situation in general. Drugs obviously push people to petty crime and rehabilitation centers. I am not an expert but treating someone for drug abuse may be completely different from helping someone with problem gambling, in the end someone could get out of those places completely clean of drugs, but if the gambling issue is not solved, it is just matter of time before the story repeats.
Drugs rehab centers are the focus because it is a more obvious problem.

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November 13, 2023, 11:00:20 AM
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Exactly, that's what I was trying to say in my last post, this initiative will serve as an inspiration or a spark so other people will try to do the same thing even if there are different cause that they want to be doing it. Like a small spark in a dry grassland, hopefully QuitGamble will be that spark that's going to ignite a wildfire.
Thank you! I hope it'll take off and become a global movement


And coming back to this group though, the op said that everything on this quitgamble.com will be completely free, i am curious to know how or where they will be getting funding from? like we all know that even a charity organization needs funding.

Sorry if this question have been asked and answered before, i completely missed it, anyone can just point me back to the answer please.
For the past 5 years, I have funded the development of the platform from my own pocket. I've tried to get help from governmental organizations, gambling commissions, and gambling companies. But most often, our efforts have just been ignored. This summer we got a donation from an affiliate company of €25K. It was fantastic, but as you understand. €25K is just pennies compared to the total cost of development over the last 5 years. We hope that will change next year. If anyone wants to support us, a free way to do that is to sign-post QuitGamble on responsible gambling pages. I also offer to write responsible gambling pages for a fee.

I consider your strategy on how to stop gambling addiction a great move and marketing your product in a space where gambling service are offered to the detriment of the user is a wise decision.

I will like to know if this is a professional consultancy service or just opinions and possibly methodology used on former addicts.
We have worked out our method to help people over time. We had ideas 5 years ago, and I have talked with 100s of addicts since then. Every time you learn something new. The biggest challenge we face is lack of motivation. Our members are often depressed, and I remember a time when I was depressed. You simply don't care about anything then. How do you motivate someone who has no motivation or energy? This is a topic I want to explore and find a solution to.

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We have worked out our method to help people over time. We had ideas 5 years ago, and I have talked with 100s of addicts since then. Every time you learn something new. The biggest challenge we face is lack of motivation. Our members are often depressed, and I remember a time when I was depressed. You simply don't care about anything then. How do you motivate someone who has no motivation or energy? This is a topic I want to explore and find a solution to.



I clearly understand, the case of depression takes away every sense of reasoning in someone. Motivation is another ball game entirely, but Motivation and Depression don't work together, so I understand clearly what you are facing and the challenges associated with limited funds is always the case when coming up with solutions.

The gambling industries are making money off addictions hence, might not really give you attention when you approach them.







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November 13, 2023, 11:56:45 AM
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Exactly, that's what I was trying to say in my last post, this initiative will serve as an inspiration or a spark so other people will try to do the same thing even if there are different cause that they want to be doing it. Like a small spark in a dry grassland, hopefully QuitGamble will be that spark that's going to ignite a wildfire.
Thank you! I hope it'll take off and become a global movement


And coming back to this group though, the op said that everything on this quitgamble.com will be completely free, i am curious to know how or where they will be getting funding from? like we all know that even a charity organization needs funding.

Sorry if this question have been asked and answered before, i completely missed it, anyone can just point me back to the answer please.
For the past 5 years, I have funded the development of the platform from my own pocket. I've tried to get help from governmental organizations, gambling commissions, and gambling companies. But most often, our efforts have just been ignored. This summer we got a donation from an affiliate company of €25K. It was fantastic, but as you understand. €25K is just pennies compared to the total cost of development over the last 5 years. We hope that will change next year. If anyone wants to support us, a free way to do that is to sign-post QuitGamble on responsible gambling pages. I also offer to write responsible gambling pages for a fee.
This is now making sense , you are not just wanted to help troubled gamblers but also spending your own money? you are a true hero mate as the 5 years development is not an easy task and funds needed.

But as you also mentioned that there is one company that helps , this means you are now starting to gather support(at least little by little) so hoping to see more in the coming years.

I will also Put in mind that if given a chance in Bull market that I attain what i was targeting then for sure I will bring at least some amount for your funding , thanks for this initiative guys, please keep it up.

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November 13, 2023, 01:00:40 PM
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Exactly, that's what I was trying to say in my last post, this initiative will serve as an inspiration or a spark so other people will try to do the same thing even if there are different cause that they want to be doing it. Like a small spark in a dry grassland, hopefully QuitGamble will be that spark that's going to ignite a wildfire.
It is not easy to quit but with their help and people surrounds us? Am sure this will spread and may help as many gamblers in the world.
thanks to this team and the others that will go forward to do the same thing as how this works.
would love seeing this taking in action and serving addicted gamblers in the near future.

There will be people who will criticize those kinds of acts as they always see the bad sides. Even those people may say that it is still within ourselves which is true, but this kind of nonprofit organization will spark your motivation to stop those addiction habits which others may not understand, but this kind of organization is the biggest factor to help you quit gambling. This kind of organization needs to be supported and not criticized, let them do their doings as if they aren't doing something bad to others.
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November 13, 2023, 01:38:23 PM
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Exactly, that's what I was trying to say in my last post, this initiative will serve as an inspiration or a spark so other people will try to do the same thing even if there are different cause that they want to be doing it. Like a small spark in a dry grassland, hopefully QuitGamble will be that spark that's going to ignite a wildfire.
Thank you! I hope it'll take off and become a global movement


And coming back to this group though, the op said that everything on this quitgamble.com will be completely free, i am curious to know how or where they will be getting funding from? like we all know that even a charity organization needs funding.

Sorry if this question have been asked and answered before, i completely missed it, anyone can just point me back to the answer please.
For the past 5 years, I have funded the development of the platform from my own pocket. I've tried to get help from governmental organizations, gambling commissions, and gambling companies. But most often, our efforts have just been ignored. This summer we got a donation from an affiliate company of €25K. It was fantastic, but as you understand. €25K is just pennies compared to the total cost of development over the last 5 years. We hope that will change next year. If anyone wants to support us, a free way to do that is to sign-post QuitGamble on responsible gambling pages. I also offer to write responsible gambling pages for a fee.

This feels great to know, atleast, that donation does prove that you are solving a problem and you are appreciated and given a reason to go ahead, a start of something is always filled with challenges for sure, but if one does not give up, rest assured that in the future, every thing will be fine.

Lets assume that the reason why you were refused help from the government and also the gambling organizations you requested help from, is because maybe you have not built the platform to the stage where they trust it, as you will agree with me, any body can wake up and ask donation for anything, and then end up wasting the money, so what I advice is to just keep building, a time will come when getting donations will be very easy.


I consider your strategy on how to stop gambling addiction a great move and marketing your product in a space where gambling service are offered to the detriment of the user is a wise decision.

I will like to know if this is a professional consultancy service or just opinions and possibly methodology used on former addicts.
We have worked out our method to help people over time. We had ideas 5 years ago, and I have talked with 100s of addicts since then. Every time you learn something new. The biggest challenge we face is lack of motivation. Our members are often depressed, and I remember a time when I was depressed. You simply don't care about anything then. How do you motivate someone who has no motivation or energy? This is a topic I want to explore and find a solution to.
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You are very right, lack of motivation is a sickness on its own that is completely different from addiction, it's good that you are looking for solution to this as well, as this is something that is often associated with addicts, you can tell an addict what to do everyday to help cure their addiction, but lack of motivation will keep the addict away from doing what he or she is or was asked to do.

So, finding a solution that will completely keep addicted motivated in the platform will also significantly help their healing process even faster than Imagined.

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Well, yeah, and just to mention that this is not the only group that have come to together to want to help addicted gambler quit gambling, in fact, i think OP did make mention of this fact in the op, if we go over to Reddit, we will find thousands of this groups, many of them having hundreds of thousands of members, but yet, it's still like gambling addiction is increasing in our society on daily basis, which but proves one thing that, in the end of it all, if a gambling addict does not stand up and help him or herself quit, no group or body can or may be able to help such a person.

And coming back to this group though, the op said that everything on this quitgamble.com will be completely free, i am curious to know how or where they will be getting funding from? like we all know that even a charity organization needs funding.

Sorry if this question have been asked and answered before, i completely missed it, anyone can just point me back to the answer, please?
Yes, the ops did mention that the quit gambling service is free and that is something that we must applaud him for that if he has a working approach and tools to help stop gambling addictions,  just like a free online rehabs that help victims to recover from their addictions.

I have seen a similar group with members who are categorized according to the level of addiction /recovery point and level,  this is what has been on for some time and we have also seen and accessed its impact on the addictions be it those who are still on their rehab process or those who have successfully completed the rehabilitation process.
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November 13, 2023, 05:09:59 PM
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It's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.

It is mostly because agencies which are supposed to help people with problems like alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide ideation and gambling addiction are commonly unfunded, since most of them are non-profit organizations. That kind of entities mostly rely on donations and rarely get active funding from the government. So for example, of there are 100 people who are addicted to gambling and need counseling, the organization (in order to manage their limited services in a wise way) only hire 4 operators to take care of the questions and problems of those 100 gamblers who are seeking help.
The result is obvious, many (if not all) of those gambler will feel neglected by the system they attend to for help.
That is why I personally believe the most important thing to have when facing these problems is a good relationship with family and friends, to supplement the counseling one could get, public or private.

I think government has left much of the role of rehabitating addicts to NGOS. Government is said to be corrupt and can not freely handle organizations like that because money meant for such agencies end up in private accounts while affected persons languish in their own helplessness. Lately, it is the NGOs that have taken up such duties to cater for people who need such help. One thing about NGOs that is better than government in such case is that they have close contacts with the those affected unlike the government that seem far and ineffective because of corruption.

However funding is still the challenge of NGOs except those own by philanthropist and wealthy people then they can comfortably finance and take care of persons of such challenge.

One also needs to point out that the relationship governments have with NGOs can vary, depending on the political standing and the personal interest of those who are in power within the country. Perhaps, there must be some cases where people working as member of the congress get directly benefited from casinos and gambling activity in the country, so they do not care to fund organizations or hospitals which would help people in need because their addiction. Even if a NGO is well funded and willing to help in a specific country, some leaders do not think of their presence kindly, since it can imply the administration in such country is a failure when comes to social problems. That was the case in my country: the central government campaigned on being highly sensitive towards social problems and promised to take care of those how needed assistance, when they failed to make their promises a reality, those with addictions to substances and gambling had to seek for help in NGOs headquarters, there is when the friction between them and the government started. Specially because those NGOs openly speak of the atrocities the government allow to happen by not providing money to their own hospitals and psychiatric facilities.

There are too many NGO that are simple money grabbing groups that serve just to place the goverment list of people "owed a favour". However there are many legit ONGs in which they help people with strong social issues and integration problems, so I am sure there are many legit opportunities for those who are seeking to control their response to gambling and getting it under control.

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Such a unique and epic thread! I truly applaud op for the manner in which he is trying to help gambling addicts around the world along with the rest of his team since very, very few would think of doing all of this for free.

This seems like a legitimate operation when compared to certain imbeciles in this forum(Cabalism13 etc) who took advantage of warmhearted people for their own good.

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November 13, 2023, 10:00:30 PM
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It's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.

It is mostly because agencies which are supposed to help people with problems like alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide ideation and gambling addiction are commonly unfunded, since most of them are non-profit organizations. That kind of entities mostly rely on donations and rarely get active funding from the government. So for example, of there are 100 people who are addicted to gambling and need counseling, the organization (in order to manage their limited services in a wise way) only hire 4 operators to take care of the questions and problems of those 100 gamblers who are seeking help.
The result is obvious, many (if not all) of those gambler will feel neglected by the system they attend to for help.
That is why I personally believe the most important thing to have when facing these problems is a good relationship with family and friends, to supplement the counseling one could get, public or private.

I think government has left much of the role of rehabitating addicts to NGOS. Government is said to be corrupt and can not freely handle organizations like that because money meant for such agencies end up in private accounts while affected persons languish in their own helplessness. Lately, it is the NGOs that have taken up such duties to cater for people who need such help. One thing about NGOs that is better than government in such case is that they have close contacts with the those affected unlike the government that seem far and ineffective because of corruption.

However funding is still the challenge of NGOs except those own by philanthropist and wealthy people then they can comfortably finance and take care of persons of such challenge.

One also needs to point out that the relationship governments have with NGOs can vary, depending on the political standing and the personal interest of those who are in power within the country. Perhaps, there must be some cases where people working as member of the congress get directly benefited from casinos and gambling activity in the country, so they do not care to fund organizations or hospitals which would help people in need because their addiction. Even if a NGO is well funded and willing to help in a specific country, some leaders do not think of their presence kindly, since it can imply the administration in such country is a failure when comes to social problems. That was the case in my country: the central government campaigned on being highly sensitive towards social problems and promised to take care of those how needed assistance, when they failed to make their promises a reality, those with addictions to substances and gambling had to seek for help in NGOs headquarters, there is when the friction between them and the government started. Specially because those NGOs openly speak of the atrocities the government allow to happen by not providing money to their own hospitals and psychiatric facilities.

There are too many NGO that are simple money grabbing groups that serve just to place the goverment list of people "owed a favour". However there are many legit ONGs in which they help people with strong social issues and integration problems, so I am sure there are many legit opportunities for those who are seeking to control their response to gambling and getting it under control.

But how much could the casino or these gambling organizations and platforms go in rendering this help to the people in need, also how effective could this be to the life of every gambler for their own benefits, we cannot compare the way the gamblers will first help themselves to how the other external rescues could be effective in making them have a better experience and change like never.



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November 13, 2023, 10:23:48 PM
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We have worked out our method to help people over time. We had ideas 5 years ago, and I have talked with 100s of addicts since then. Every time you learn something new. The biggest challenge we face is lack of motivation. Our members are often depressed, and I remember a time when I was depressed. You simply don't care about anything then. How do you motivate someone who has no motivation or energy? This is a topic I want to explore and find a solution to.
Giving motivation to someone who has lost their will is very difficult. I've encountered this where many people have tried to give him motivation but it doesn't work at all. He became increasingly lost in his own thoughts.

Last I heard, he almost fell into depression but fortunately, at that time, his consciousness came and made him accept what happened to him. And he was lucky because the people around him immediately provided help to get out of his depression. Maybe someone should be able to open their mind to accept their situation, whether slowly or using other methods.

Usually, after an acknowledgment from him that he is tired of his situation, he will experience an emotional upsurge. He can experience seizures because he cannot control his emotions. Someone should make him realize that he has a second chance to fix what is wrong. Someone needs to show you the way and when your consciousness begins to accept someone's explanation, continue with the method you are using.

You also use the same method as when you are depressed. Maybe it will work. You have to try more ways that might be different from before. Good luck.

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There are no problems with registration. But i don`t want to register. At least i don`t want to leave any data for unknown site. I get enough spam letters yet to add some more. And without registration i can`t see anything interesting except several videos. Everybody can choose himself to register and test site, or just leave it. The OP asked feedback - he got it.
I think the data they get from the registration is the only thing that they can get from providing free access or free guide on how to quit gambling. Most of us will put dummy details into the registration form to achieve anonymity and I don't see a problem with that but I think the developers are thinking to use the data to improve their contents and monitor the flow of users in their application. The website has a good intention and I think that a few minutes and false information is enough for us to get contents on how to quit gambling.
I haven`t try it. But i don`t sure that everything is like it looks. If they just want to help and give you such content for free - they don`t need to make us register. And i think that at least i will get spam messages.
And i repeat it one more time. You can register if you want, it is your decision. I don`t want to register, it is my decision. We both can choose what to do ourselves. It is my feedback for the OP. He can change something or not, it is his decision.
A person's advice to quit gambling doesn't do much if someone doesn't try it themselves, there is a website with some scripts on how to help a gambler quit gambling.  Quitting gambling requires hard work on your part.  Gambling is one thing that can easily make a person addicted to its deep addiction.  To save ourselves from this addiction, we have to be careful from the beginning of gambling.  But when a person becomes deeply addicted, it becomes very difficult for him to quit gambling.  So I think it's enough if someone tries to gamble on their own.  I don't think it's very logical to quit gambling with the help of a website
Gambling is for others a disease , that almost Uncurable because if it is easy to cure then for sure there will be no addict gamblers that losing all their money evert single day.

Quitting needs both cooperation , from the involved gambler and for the method he uses to quiit.
some use family or friends while others uses professional help but this is how it works to act accordingly together.









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November 14, 2023, 04:04:25 AM
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It's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.

It is mostly because agencies which are supposed to help people with problems like alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide ideation and gambling addiction are commonly unfunded, since most of them are non-profit organizations. That kind of entities mostly rely on donations and rarely get active funding from the government. So for example, of there are 100 people who are addicted to gambling and need counseling, the organization (in order to manage their limited services in a wise way) only hire 4 operators to take care of the questions and problems of those 100 gamblers who are seeking help.
The result is obvious, many (if not all) of those gambler will feel neglected by the system they attend to for help.
That is why I personally believe the most important thing to have when facing these problems is a good relationship with family and friends, to supplement the counseling one could get, public or private.

I think government has left much of the role of rehabitating addicts to NGOS. Government is said to be corrupt and can not freely handle organizations like that because money meant for such agencies end up in private accounts while affected persons languish in their own helplessness. Lately, it is the NGOs that have taken up such duties to cater for people who need such help. One thing about NGOs that is better than government in such case is that they have close contacts with the those affected unlike the government that seem far and ineffective because of corruption.

However funding is still the challenge of NGOs except those own by philanthropist and wealthy people then they can comfortably finance and take care of persons of such challenge.

One also needs to point out that the relationship governments have with NGOs can vary, depending on the political standing and the personal interest of those who are in power within the country. Perhaps, there must be some cases where people working as member of the congress get directly benefited from casinos and gambling activity in the country, so they do not care to fund organizations or hospitals which would help people in need because their addiction. Even if a NGO is well funded and willing to help in a specific country, some leaders do not think of their presence kindly, since it can imply the administration in such country is a failure when comes to social problems. That was the case in my country: the central government campaigned on being highly sensitive towards social problems and promised to take care of those how needed assistance, when they failed to make their promises a reality, those with addictions to substances and gambling had to seek for help in NGOs headquarters, there is when the friction between them and the government started. Specially because those NGOs openly speak of the atrocities the government allow to happen by not providing money to their own hospitals and psychiatric facilities.

There are too many NGO that are simple money grabbing groups that serve just to place the goverment list of people "owed a favour". However there are many legit ONGs in which they help people with strong social issues and integration problems, so I am sure there are many legit opportunities for those who are seeking to control their response to gambling and getting it under control.

But how much could the casino or these gambling organizations and platforms go in rendering this help to the people in need, also how effective could this be to the life of every gambler for their own benefits, we cannot compare the way the gamblers will first help themselves to how the other external rescues could be effective in making them have a better experience and change like never.
OP had mentioned about Him using His own Money to fund this from His own pocket which means whatever the effect or the outcome , the most important thing is the motivation , dedication and of course their mentorship to others in the future to extend their hands helping gamblers to learn how to decently play gambling and not to turn being addict .
it may be a long hard way but eventually it will pay off, that is in he long run.

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November 14, 2023, 05:01:18 AM
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From a casino affiliate that could easily earn some $$$$ to working with people that have problems coping
with gambling is selfless and commendable !!!

And looking at how good the idea is from its facevalue, is this service free of charge, and for users that face a language barrier do your have other options available...

Otherwise hope casino's around can find a way to work with you guys and get to intergrate your services into their platforms Smiley

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You have not checked the site and you make conclusion. I only read the introductory path which has no complete information and I may not be exactly be correct either. The introductory path does not talk about quitting though.

I have not gone through the entire site details, but I made a quick preview of how to stop gambling addiction from the link provided in the OP.

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People that want people to quit addiction want addicted people to stop doing that thing that makes them addicted, like to stop smoking or gambling. It is better to stop than to continue to be addicted.

Too much of everything is bad, but being in control of whatever you are doing keeps you on the right track, and no one will criticise you for that. Unless those who have already made up their minds see such activity as bad, there is no point in stopping gambling.
 
If you can learn how to come out of the addiction page, then there is no problem with continuing to gamble. That's only if you are sure you can't go back there. The main reason why people are advised to leave whatever they get addicted to entirely is because there is no guarantee that, at the end of the day, they won't get addicted again.
There are things you really can't help yourself with unless you stop coming eye to eye in contact with that thing, I have my addictions too and it's not about gambling or money, it is food and taking too much do hurt me in the end but since I can't control myself I need to rescue myself, the only thing that worked for me is avoiding the food, I can't control myself to eat a little part and do the same another day.

I think this is what smokers are facing too, once they decide to go closer to someone who smokes they will end up going back to been a smoker, with addiction I believe there is no such thing as been in control while still participating in that thing, you either quit it or you surrender to it.

To stop been a gambling addict you have to stop gambling, I quit understand what OP is saying, to gamble responsible belongs to those that are half way to becoming as addicted gambler as they can still get their heads clear and do the right things, but for those that are already too addicted to gambling it's going to be hard for them to become a responsible gambler, they as better off staying away from gambling.

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November 14, 2023, 08:39:45 AM
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I liked this platfrom it's easy to find pages, but OP said it's available in 3 languages but I seen only 2.(english is important btw)
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November 14, 2023, 09:15:10 AM
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Thank you OP for providing the solution, I think it's quite useful because lately my aggressive betting needs to be balanced with enlightenment. At least this can give me a warning of poor monthly management. This site is perfect to be used as a guide for some of my closest relatives because it seems they really need this kind of advice. The good thing is that there is an interaction option so it is easier to find each user's problem in real time.

After I read some of the articles here, I found many facts revealed, one of which was "finding gambling as a means to escape from boredom, stress and too much free time". I totally agree that this is an escape factor for people who aren't really that busy.

However, is there a summary of the results of the treatment that has been done? e.g. like documenting the pretest and posttest

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The site looks great, but the serif font used on the headings of the homepage looks a bit tacky. I suggest you change it to a sans-serif font and also make it a bit smaller so that word-wrapping doesn't occur. But I do like this initiative.

I liked this platfrom it's easy to find pages, but OP said it's available in 3 languages but I seen only 2.(english is important btw)

You'll find gambling addicts speaking all sorts of languages. 3 is certainly not enough.

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November 14, 2023, 09:42:17 PM
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There are things you really can't help yourself with unless you stop coming eye to eye in contact with that thing, I have my addictions too and it's not about gambling or money, it is food and taking too much do hurt me in the end but since I can't control myself I need to rescue myself, the only thing that worked for me is avoiding the food, I can't control myself to eat a little part and do the same another day.

I never knew people also get addicted to food too. If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time I've come across such a kind of addiction. I eat and I get fed up, and when I still see snacks or things that I like, I still buy them to keep my mouth busy. Will that also be considered a food addiction?

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I think this is what smokers are facing too, once they decide to go closer to someone who smokes they will end up going back to been a smoker, with addiction I believe there is no such thing as been in control while still participating in that thing, you either quit it or you surrender to it.

In this aspect of addiction, I will say everything is just based on discipline, and I will link this to drinking habits and addiction too. I know of someone who takes alcohol a lot and loses control of how much he consumes most of the time, which was really turning him to something else, but due to the disgrace and advice from family, he decided not to get involved in anything relating to alcohol ever again, but he still has a group of friends who are in that, like they sit out together and those people take alcohol, but he doesn't do that anymore instead he goes for other soft drinks around, and at the end of the day everyone goes home happy.
 
Inaspect of smoking, people can also still stop smoking and be around those who smoke, and they won't influence them unless it's someone who is determined enough to call it a stop in his smoking habit. Anything one wants to stop, they will stop it; it's just determination and self-training.

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To stop been a gambling addict you have to stop gambling, I quit understand what OP is saying, to gamble responsible belongs to those that are half way to becoming as addicted gambler as they can still get their heads clear and do the right things, but for those that are already too addicted to gambling it's going to be hard for them to become a responsible gambler, they as better off staying away from gambling.

Stopping gambling entirely is the best option that many people have given to addicts out there. Since the person can't control himself, it's best they just stop doing that thing, but whereas the person can learn some self-control and add a little discipline to himself, I can't advise them to stop. Although people have different points of view, I'm just going to give out my own piece of advice based on how I understand people and who is in question at that very moment.

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Such a unique and epic thread! I truly applaud op for how he is trying to help gambling addicts around the world along with the rest of his team since very, very few would think of doing all of this for free.

This seems like a legitimate operation when compared to certain imbeciles in this forum(Cabalism13 etc) who took advantage of warmhearted people for their own good.
The ops indeed is up for a good course really and that is something that we all have to applaud them for,  rendering a selfless service to help addicts in overcoming the hold of the addiction over is quite a necessity and a prime thing for us to do as a concern member of the gambling community that work and aim for the betterment of the entire community because if we have other individuals that have similar mindset of reality and danger of addictions and having the willingness to help,  will help the fight against addiction is the most effective ways.

But to this level,  we have to say that the ops have gone ahead of others to offer such unique can't for anyone in that category.
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Such a unique and epic thread! I truly applaud op for the manner in which he is trying to help gambling addicts around the world along with the rest of his team since very, very few would think of doing all of this for free.

This seems like a legitimate operation when compared to certain imbeciles in this forum(Cabalism13 etc) who took advantage of warmhearted people for their own good.
I think he's not the only one that knows about this site, there are more of members from the forum but kept it discreet specifically from newbies, as long as we're in the space, generating hugh figures should our concerns and sketch out the means to sort out important hindrance. Yes it is unique and important for every gambler to know about, OP just want to create awareness concerning the challenges uprising in the system and the provided means of resolving such problems. This aides serves an important purpose and everyone would be satisfied if their ends are meant.

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November 15, 2023, 06:16:31 AM
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I liked this platfrom it's easy to find pages, but OP said it's available in 3 languages but I seen only 2.(english is important btw)
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I could not found where is the forum is on the website,
I think all the good and important features are not totally for free it have membership to use all features.
We can just read lots of useful blog posts for free.

About the available languages, I have seen that it is already translated into Spanish, although there are a few sections that are not translated yet.

I applaud OP's initiative and, if he needs help with the Spanish translation (for free), count me in. Addictions ruin lives, not only addicted's life but loved ones' too, so any help like the one provided by the announced website is appreciated.

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November 15, 2023, 08:27:13 AM
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However, is there a summary of the results of the treatment that has been done? e.g. like documenting the pretest and posttest

So far we only have written testimonials from users we talked to. We hope to develop a better way of measuring things next year.


I liked this platfrom it's easy to find pages, but OP said it's available in 3 languages but I seen only 2.(english is important btw)

You'll find gambling addicts speaking all sorts of languages. 3 is certainly not enough.

I'd love to have the website in 20 languages, but the cost of translating is about $6K and I don't have the funds for it. If we would get a sponsor, I would be happy to translate the website into more languages.

I liked this platfrom it's easy to find pages, but OP said it's available in 3 languages but I seen only 2.(english is important btw)
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I could not found where is the forum is on the website,
I think all the good and important features are not totally for free it have membership to use all features.
We can just read lots of useful blog posts for free.

The forum is available for the members in order to keep their discussion private. It would naturally be better for us to have it available on the website, because it creates free content for us. But it's more important to us that the users feel safe. Hence, you have to login to see the forum.
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The forum is available for the members in order to keep their discussion private. It would naturally be better for us to have it available on the website, because it creates free content for us. But it's more important to us that the users feel safe. Hence, you have to login to see the forum.

I like that OP opened such a site and informed all of us about it by opening a new topic on our forum. 
This is definitely a useful initiative and of course it should be further developed.  But what I can say in this regard is i that when a gambler himself begins to understand that he has already becmome addicted to gambling and should somehow fight against the addiction, this is already good and this is his first step towards recovery.
 Then, of course, he can look at the recommendations of this site and start doing something.  But unfortunately, the mass of players simply do not realize that they are already really sick with gaming and at the level of such addiction that already needs to be treated.  What should others do in relation to such players?  Well, apparently, for starters, just recommend it and go to the s ite.  But unfortunately, such players simply brush aside this recommendation and ignore comments from their close relatives, who have already realized that there is a serious addiction.  It is necessary to somehow stimulate the involvement of players who are not aware of their illness to this information.

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November 15, 2023, 11:14:05 AM
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It doesn`t matter how someone decide to quit gambling. If someone need assistance - ok, he can use the site, the book, something else. In such situation all choices can be right decision. I don`t need it and haven`t try, so i can`t recommend the best way.
But right here we see the site, that requires registration and promises to help. I don`t sure that it is really help, without any requirements.
If someone is trying to get rid of gambling from his mind and looking for different ways then this site can work for him.  But there are very few people who want to quit gambling. And those who want to leave Ajwa can leave themselves.  But thanks also to whoever made this site because it might save someone's life from deep gambling addiction. I am not speaking against this site but if one is not trying to quit gambling then this site is of no use to him.
I doesn`t cares about quit gambling, i don`t have any problems with gambling. I`m just talking about site here. It looks ok, may be it can be useful for someone, trying to quit gambling, but i can`t say something more without registration. And i don`t want to register.
Ok, lets try an example. If i would try to quit gambling and it will be a problem for me - the registration can make me leave this site and it become useless for someone, who really needs it.

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From a casino affiliate that could easily earn some $$$$ to working with people that have problems coping
with gambling is selfless and commendable !!!

And looking at how good the idea is from its facevalue, is this service free of charge, and for users that face a language barrier do your have other options available...

Otherwise hope casino's around can find a way to work with you guys and get to intergrate your services into their platforms Smiley

I think this service is free of charge as i checked the website i can not really see anywhere they asked for a fee to access or receive anything in return for payment made by a visitor only thing they made was a support  which is a free will donation thing for any visitor who is buoyant to do so. They already made available materials and articles for a gambler who is seeking for assistance and ways to minimize the rate at which they gamble. I took my time to read them and the articles were all insightful, educative and encouraging enough for whoever is willing to quit gambling to follow the steps they have provided via their website.

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I'm just wondering how it works seriously.
Sometimes in the reality of this whole thing, it's almost impossible to convince and hypnotize a person to forgetting his gambling habits, talkmore of doing it online.. looks to me like something that's way too difficult to cope with.

well, it could as well be helpful since alot of peeps have given recommendations to it already... I'm not an addict but I understand how addiction can be very clingy.

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I've once saved a brother who lost everything to gambling and he was able to confused me that he is done with gambling because of his regrets, he really regret ever becoming a gambler, as he was just a beginner, he got addicted right after he won twice and he used money he was not supposed to have use, I just end up taking pity on him, so I gave him back some money, almost half of what he lost after he got no one from his family to help him, they all blamed him for making such decisions but they aren't ready to help him.

I sat him down at my place and give him some advice about gambling, and I showed him some screenshots of people that have lost a lot more than he did, I tried to teach about how to be a responsible gambler but he said no that he is done with gambling, I think he got the wrong advice about gambling and him winning twice also made him lose his mind.

I believe that becoming a addict and able to voice out about it is the best thing you can do for yourself,  some people end up in worse situation because they keep it all to themselves and when the battle it all alone and fail to conquer they will lose their mind completely.

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If a gambler is challenged with a particular and personal experience with using a gambling platform, he can get the required assistance needed from the community like this by first sharing his own side of view and then others may know how they can come in, if it's gambling issues with the particular platform, then the casino have to be the one responsible for the response to each of their users challenges as such could be better treated on their announcement discussion thread.
Well, how is the casino supposed to be responsible when comes to gambling addiction and it's users? I mean, I have encountered casinos like Stake, for example which explicitly has a page in their casino which is about problem gambling and how to gamble responsibly, they explain very clearly that no one is supposed to expect to get gains over their gambling sessions. They also have a self exclusion program for gamblers who are aware of their problem; what I am trying to say is that casinos (spite of benefitting from the volume of gambling in their platform) usually take the steps demanded by law for people to realize when they have got a problem and how to address it. But beyond that, I would not personally expect a casino to put on the table huge investments to drawn away their own gamblers from fueling their own business.

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November 16, 2023, 02:02:37 PM
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From a casino affiliate that could easily earn some $$$$ to working with people that have problems coping
with gambling is selfless and commendable
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And looking at how good the idea is from its facevalue, is this service free of charge, and for users that face a language barrier do your have other options available...

Otherwise hope casino's around can find a way to work with you guys and get to intergrate your services into their platforms Smiley


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Wouldn't acting as a casino affiliate, which promotes and encourages gambling, invalidate the real purpose of OP?

Although, I do believe that the gambling industry has the responsibility to protect its customers and the people that regularly use their service to make sure that they're living normal and healthy lives. Because one more person that develops a gambling addiction, is another customer eventually lost.

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November 16, 2023, 07:45:57 PM
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If a gambler is challenged with a particular and personal experience with using a gambling platform, he can get the required assistance needed from the community like this by first sharing his own side of view and then others may know how they can come in, if it's gambling issues with the particular platform, then the casino have to be the one responsible for the response to each of their users challenges as such could be better treated on their announcement discussion thread.

You have said it right. Gamblers on this platform have the privilege to always complain about any casino that does not treat them well and likewise their own personal challenges. Many gamblers have been able to resolve issues with their casinos through this platform as that avenue is is always put in place to sort out issues between gamblers here and casinos so as to reach a peaceful without any partiality. This community have always been active to respond to members irrespective of the situation at hand and also many cases have been resolved here and if they are to be call on to say it, I believe all of them would come to talk about their experiences.

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I've once saved a brother who lost everything to gambling and he was able to confused me that he is done with gambling because of his regrets, he really regret ever becoming a gambler, as he was just a beginner, he got addicted right after he won twice and he used money he was not supposed to have use, I just end up taking pity on him, so I gave him back some money, almost half of what he lost after he got no one from his family to help him, they all blamed him for making such decisions but they aren't ready to help him.

I sat him down at my place and give him some advice about gambling, and I showed him some screenshots of people that have lost a lot more than he did, I tried to teach about how to be a responsible gambler but he said no that he is done with gambling, I think he got the wrong advice about gambling and him winning twice also made him lose his mind.

I believe that becoming a addict and able to voice out about it is the best thing you can do for yourself,  some people end up in worse situation because they keep it all to themselves and when the battle it all alone and fail to conquer they will lose their mind completely.
Very common scenario on gambling field or industry on which there would really be those people who do really ends up on getting addicted just because they arent that mindful in regarding with their actions. They do really tolerate out that kind of impulsive gambling on which it would really be resulting into more loses and just like been said that regret would really be there are we do know that it would really be always at the end and this
is why it would really be just that important that you should really be that mindful about the potential effects on the time that you do gamble. You can play but be wary about those emotions that might
build up along the way which would really be imposes risk and addiction.

On op, then it is really something that commendable on making something which is totally free for the sake of those addicted ones.We dont know if this one would really be that effective
or something relevant or not but its better to have rather than on having nothing at all on which atleast you do have some options or choices if ever you do tend to decide on quitting.
As long it would really be totally free then it would really be that great but in overall you could really be able to quit on your own if you are really just
that mindful about on the things that you've been dealing with.

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November 16, 2023, 08:51:26 PM
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If a gambler is challenged with a particular and personal experience with using a gambling platform, he can get the required assistance needed from the community like this by first sharing his own side of view and then others may know how they can come in, if it's gambling issues with the particular platform, then the casino have to be the one responsible for the response to each of their users challenges as such could be better treated on their announcement discussion thread.
Well, how is the casino supposed to be responsible when comes to gambling addiction and it's users? I mean, I have encountered casinos like Stake, for example which explicitly has a page in their casino which is about problem gambling and how to gamble responsibly, they explain very clearly that no one is supposed to expect to get gains over their gambling sessions. They also have a self exclusion program for gamblers who are aware of their problem; what I am trying to say is that casinos (spite of benefitting from the volume of gambling in their platform) usually take the steps demanded by law for people to realize when they have got a problem and how to address it. But beyond that, I would not personally expect a casino to put on the table huge investments to drawn away their own gamblers from fueling their own business.
The thing is that most of the casinos have this features that seek to help problem gambling toward successful exit from such addiction and this seen what they put up on their site to help those in that category and that goes a long way to show how the casino know the risk that is associated with gambling so it better to avoid it in totality instead sliding into it and if that happens the addicts should be ready to go through the process of recovery and also place much more priority on getting out 100% and nothing less.
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November 16, 2023, 09:30:34 PM
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From a casino affiliate that could easily earn some $$$$ to working with people that have problems coping
with gambling is selfless and commendable
!!!

And looking at how good the idea is from its facevalue, is this service free of charge, and for users that face a language barrier do your have other options available...

Otherwise hope casino's around can find a way to work with you guys and get to intergrate your services into their platforms Smiley


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Wouldn't acting as a casino affiliate, which promotes and encourages gambling, invalidate the real purpose of OP?

Although, I do believe that the gambling industry has the responsibility to protect its customers and the people that regularly use their service to make sure that they're living normal and healthy lives. Because one more person that develops a gambling addiction, is another customer eventually lost.

I don't think casinos will have a concern or care for their customers. I haven't seen a casino online or offline that promotes moderate gambling or even a reminder to gamble at your own risk or what so ever. The thing is, it's more advantageous to them if many gamblers become addicted and play for them. That's a sad reality, but that's how they earn or get rich, taking advantage of the misery of others. Well, I'm not generalising, but I know we are aware of how casinos work. If there is no money circulating, they could be closed or bankrupt, so they don't care for their customers at all. Even if there's a customer who's gone, they can easily find another one—in fact, more.

A game like this, like what the OP is promoting, can easily be useful and helpful if the person who's addicted initiates it by themselves. You can't easily convince an addict to gamble.

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November 16, 2023, 09:39:36 PM
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If a gambler is challenged with a particular and personal experience with using a gambling platform, he can get the required assistance needed from the community like this by first sharing his own side of view and then others may know how they can come in, if it's gambling issues with the particular platform, then the casino have to be the one responsible for the response to each of their users challenges as such could be better treated on their announcement discussion thread.

You have said it right. Gamblers on this platform have the privilege to always complain about any casino that does not treat them well and likewise their own personal challenges. Many gamblers have been able to resolve issues with their casinos through this platform as that avenue is is always put in place to sort out issues between gamblers here and casinos so as to reach a peaceful without any partiality. This community have always been active to respond to members irrespective of the situation at hand and also many cases have been resolved here and if they are to be call on to say it, I believe all of them would come to talk about their experiences.

The more it's important that being a member of this community, you're expected to maintain the use of online gambling platforms available on the forum with a reputable standards in other to get along with them through their announcement discussion thread, not like other gambling platforms whereby you don't have access to any of their representative or even get a response from their customers service contact, we have so many experienced gamblers here who could join along with discussion on related matters of interest.



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November 18, 2023, 01:46:59 PM
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This site is good for gamblers who want to quit gamble for free, like a guide on how to combat their addiction.
I don't know the catch but the it seems their goal is to really help those gamblers who are having trouble with their gambling habits.
I remember, there's one thread here asking how to avoid addiction where you don't need to spend money or at least the cheaper alternatives.
Maybe some users can find this site useful or remind them on how to fall from the trap of gambling addiction.

Do you really believe that a few step by step tip is gonna stop an addictive gambler to quite? I've seen cases where gamblers went as far as going to see therapists to help them resolve their gambling addictions all to no avail. I'm not saying this isn't a good step, it is, all I'm saying is that the poster sounds so pessimistic about using this program to make addictive gamblers to quite. I'm just saying that contrary to the actual intent of this project, the result might be completely different.

an online platform and mobile app to help people with gambling problems.
Everything on QuitGamble.com is built from a problem gambler's perspective.

But here's what could also work if you're so enthusiastic about helping addictive gamblers, try moving your targets to those who aren't addicted already, or those who haven't even started gambling, I don't know how you can reach out to the targeted audience but I feel if you do that, you'll be helping more people than you can ever imagine.

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November 18, 2023, 03:19:30 PM
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If a gambler is challenged with a particular and personal experience with using a gambling platform, he can get the required assistance needed from the community like this by first sharing his own side of view and then others may know how they can come in, if it's gambling issues with the particular platform, then the casino have to be the one responsible for the response to each of their users challenges as such could be better treated on their announcement discussion thread.
Well, how is the casino supposed to be responsible when comes to gambling addiction and it's users? I mean, I have encountered casinos like Stake, for example which explicitly has a page in their casino which is about problem gambling and how to gamble responsibly, they explain very clearly that no one is supposed to expect to get gains over their gambling sessions. They also have a self exclusion program for gamblers who are aware of their problem; what I am trying to say is that casinos (spite of benefitting from the volume of gambling in their platform) usually take the steps demanded by law for people to realize when they have got a problem and how to address it. But beyond that, I would not personally expect a casino to put on the table huge investments to drawn away their own gamblers from fueling their own business.
The thing is that most of the casinos have this features that seek to help problem gambling toward successful exit from such addiction and this seen what they put up on their site to help those in that category and that goes a long way to show how the casino know the risk that is associated with gambling so it better to avoid it in totality instead sliding into it and if that happens the addicts should be ready to go through the process of recovery and also place much more priority on getting out 100% and nothing less.
You are right, atleast, for the fact that I was actually amazed the day I was browsing through Stake.com and decided to check out what's in there in their Stake safe, the is a menu that can be found in the menu tab, I read the all the content in this program and I was really impressed with the way stake presented every thing about responsible gambling, after going through the content, I thought to myself that, if gambler can take time to go through such information before they start gambling, we probably will have less gambling addicts roaming our streets looking for solution on how to cure themselves.

Like it is commonly said that prevention is better than cure, gamblers should really engage themselves in going through responsible gambling programs, this will help keep our mind conscious of the possibilities of gambling addiction, and help us prevent such from happening to us.

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November 18, 2023, 03:32:24 PM
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A person's advice to quit gambling doesn't do much if someone doesn't try it themselves, there is a website with some scripts on how to help a gambler quit gambling.  Quitting gambling requires hard work on your part.  Gambling is one thing that can easily make a person addicted to its deep addiction.  To save ourselves from this addiction, we have to be careful from the beginning of gambling.  But when a person becomes deeply addicted, it becomes very difficult for him to quit gambling.  So I think it's enough if someone tries to gamble on their own.  I don't think it's very logical to quit gambling with the help of a website
It doesn`t matter how someone decide to quit gambling. If someone need assistance - ok, he can use the site, the book, something else. In such situation all choices can be right decision. I don`t need it and haven`t try, so i can`t recommend the best way.
But right here we see the site, that requires registration and promises to help. I don`t sure that it is really help, without any requirements.
If someone is trying to get rid of gambling from his mind and looking for different ways then this site can work for him.  But there are very few people who want to quit gambling. And those who want to leave Ajwa can leave themselves.  But thanks also to whoever made this site because it might save someone's life from deep gambling addiction. I am not speaking against this site but if one is not trying to quit gambling then this site is of no use to him.
If quitting gambling seems impossible on our own, we will try to look for other ways that can possibly help us with our problem and one of them is the sites like this. Gambling is huge and so as the gamblers and the people who are addicted on it. I still believe that many addicted gamblers badly wants to change their selves.

There are addicted gamblers who can easily leave on their own, that is because their condition is not severe yet. I'm not sure if you are also one of them but if not, it's great that you still appreciate this website's efforts. Even me as well, even though I'm not an addict in gambling yet but we don't know in the future Cheesy, or my kids, partner, family members, friends, etc.. are going to suffer the same condition. If so, I already know if where to go because my knowledge about gambling addiction may not be enough.

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Do you really believe that a few step by step tip is gonna stop an addictive gambler to quite? I've seen cases where gamblers went as far as going to see therapists to help them resolve their gambling addictions all to no avail. I'm not saying this isn't a good step, it is, all I'm saying is that the poster sounds so pessimistic about using this program to make addictive gamblers to quite. I'm just saying that contrary to the actual intent of this project, the result might be completely different.
Something is better than nothing which is why what op is trying to do will not help many, but will definitely help a few and that by itself is a great accomplishment if you think about it.

Also, I disagree with your opinion about op sounding pessimistic. He is just being realistic while you are the one who actually sounds pessimistic here.

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November 18, 2023, 06:52:50 PM
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I don't think casinos will have a concern or care for their customers. I haven't seen a casino online or offline that promotes moderate gambling or even a reminder to gamble at your own risk or what so ever.
That's not true, I'm not sure about offline casinos but I've seen several online platforms having responsible gambling tags and some even have warnings that one should gamble at their own risk and only use money that they can afford to lose. So, even if they care about their customers or not, they do give such warnings to the customers so that they are not blamed in case a customer loses everything and then starts blaming the casino for their losses which some people do but if the casino has already given a warning and they still went and lost the money, it's their fault.

I also think that a casino does not have to do that because it's a business for them and people should already know that there is a high chance that they lose their money when gambling and if they are still doing it, they should take the responsibility on themselves instead of blaming anyone.

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November 18, 2023, 07:44:02 PM
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In the end, it all comes down to our own will. If we don't have the self-confidence to decide to quit it permanently, nothing can make us do it. When it becomes an addiction, it is not impossible to quit. But it is surely hard. Humans are slaves to habit. Doing it over and over makes it a habit and as humans we get used to it.

Also, what are you against responsible gambling? It is a legit process on how you can make one quit gambling. Getting rid of addiction is a long process and when you take everything away at once, people will likely become more addicted to it. For this reason, people decrease the amount of gambling slowly and when they are introduced to responsibility, they will take that option over anything else. Because in this option, they are having the opportunity to still gamble. As humans we are drawn to the very thing that we are told not to do. Instead of taking it all away, we give them two choices which are not being able to do it or do it with some regularities. As an addict, they will always go for the second option.

I have been there and I know how it works. Maybe your method also works, but that doesn't mean others are not going to work the same.
Anyway, it is a good thing that you are providing this service for free. I wish you guys more success in the future. Good luck.
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November 18, 2023, 08:15:50 PM
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Do you really believe that a few step by step tip is gonna stop an addictive gambler to quite? I've seen cases where gamblers went as far as going to see therapists to help them resolve their gambling addictions all to no avail. I'm not saying this isn't a good step, it is, all I'm saying is that the poster sounds so pessimistic about using this program to make addictive gamblers to quite. I'm just saying that contrary to the actual intent of this project, the result might be completely different.
Something is better than nothing which is why what OP is trying to do will not help many, but will definitely help a few and that by itself is a great accomplishment if you think about it.

Also, I disagree with your opinion about op sounding pessimistic. He is just being realistic while you are the one who sounds pessimistic here.
The most important thing is the willingness to help other to overcome gambling addictions and the ops have chosen to select a few people as the project progress and there is a success ratio then he can decide to increase the number of beneficiaries and at some point also the ability to increase the number of those who may enrol in this is depending on the willingness of the gambler to quit by all means.

So with that readiness to quit,  it becomes easier for them to quit with little effort,  so first before the ops can take in new addicts for rehabilitation,  he should first check out for those who are truly ready to quit gambling.
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an online platform and mobile app to help people with gambling problems.
Everything on QuitGamble.com is built from a problem gambler's perspective.

But here's what could also work if you're so enthusiastic about helping addictive gamblers, try moving your targets to those who aren't addicted already, or those who haven't even started gambling, I don't know how you can reach out to the targeted audience but I feel if you do that, you'll be helping more people than you can ever imagine.

I also think it will be easier for someone who is not already a gambling addict to be convinced out of turning into one than talking to someone who is already into it. I mean, there is a possibility of bringing an addict out of it, but the job will be easier if they don't even turn into one at all, like educating them on the things they need in order not to get addicted, just like our people usually say, "Prevention is better than cure."
 
Some gambling addicts always find it very hard to leave their addiction, no matter how hard they try to get out of it. They just keep their stock in it, and those who manage to get out of it most times happen to have already ruined their lives up to some certain level, which will take them time to rebuild.

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November 18, 2023, 09:59:16 PM
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A person's advice to quit gambling doesn't do much if someone doesn't try it themselves, there is a website with some scripts on how to help a gambler quit gambling.  Quitting gambling requires hard work on your part.  Gambling is one thing that can easily make a person addicted to its deep addiction.  To save ourselves from this addiction, we have to be careful from the beginning of gambling.  But when a person becomes deeply addicted, it becomes very difficult for him to quit gambling.  So I think it's enough if someone tries to gamble on their own.  I don't think it's very logical to quit gambling with the help of a website
It doesn`t matter how someone decide to quit gambling. If someone need assistance - ok, he can use the site, the book, something else. In such situation all choices can be right decision. I don`t need it and haven`t try, so i can`t recommend the best way.
But right here we see the site, that requires registration and promises to help. I don`t sure that it is really help, without any requirements.
If someone is trying to get rid of gambling from his mind and looking for different ways then this site can work for him.  But there are very few people who want to quit gambling. And those who want to leave Ajwa can leave themselves.  But thanks also to whoever made this site because it might save someone's life from deep gambling addiction. I am not speaking against this site but if one is not trying to quit gambling then this site is of no use to him.
If quitting gambling seems impossible on our own, we will try to look for other ways that can possibly help us with our problem and one of them is the sites like this. Gambling is huge and so as the gamblers and the people who are addicted on it. I still believe that many addicted gamblers badly wants to change their selves.

There are addicted gamblers who can easily leave on their own, that is because their condition is not severe yet. I'm not sure if you are also one of them but if not, it's great that you still appreciate this website's efforts. Even me as well, even though I'm not an addict in gambling yet but we don't know in the future Cheesy, or my kids, partner, family members, friends, etc.. are going to suffer the same condition. If so, I already know if where to go because my knowledge about gambling addiction may not be enough.
Yes, you would really be that needing to reassess on the things that you are currently dealing. It is really that impossible that you wont really be able to notice whether you are still in good shape or not.

On the time that you would really be finding yourself that addicted then self denial would really be that common and you would really be just that rejecting those events just
to follow on what your leisure seeking kind of emotion do really give out. You would really be that not minding whether you are doing the wrong or right thing because once you are
on such condition then it would really be that likely that you would really be that ending up on getting addiction on severe manner.

Things turns out to be uncontrollable if you do let yourself not to have that good control of your mind and with your emotions. You would really be ending up on a disaster.

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an online platform and mobile app to help people with gambling problems.
Everything on QuitGamble.com is built from a problem gambler's perspective.

But here's what could also work if you're so enthusiastic about helping addictive gamblers, try moving your targets to those who aren't addicted already, or those who haven't even started gambling, I don't know how you can reach out to the targeted audience but I feel if you do that, you'll be helping more people than you can ever imagine.

I also think it will be easier for someone who is not already a gambling addict to be convinced out of turning into one than talking to someone who is already into it. I mean, there is a possibility of bringing an addict out of it, but the job will be easier if they don't even turn into one at all, like educating them on the things they need in order not to get addicted, just like our people usually say, "Prevention is better than cure."
 
Some gambling addicts always find it very hard to leave their addiction, no matter how hard they try to get out of it. They just keep their stock in it, and those who manage to get out of it most times happen to have already ruined their lives up to some certain level, which will take them time to rebuild.

Only if you know and understand the theory behind the process of building a house and demolishing one, you could see that one is very easy to do while the other is very hard to achieve, same thing likewise is being made applicable to gamblers lifestyle experience, if you want to get addicted, then it's easy to do but if you want to get out of it, that's not an easy task to do at all because it will require alot of efforts together with force to accomplish.
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November 18, 2023, 11:23:34 PM
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Do you really believe that a few step by step tip is gonna stop an addictive gambler to quite? I've seen cases where gamblers went as far as going to see therapists to help them resolve their gambling addictions all to no avail. I'm not saying this isn't a good step, it is, all I'm saying is that the poster sounds so pessimistic about using this program to make addictive gamblers to quite. I'm just saying that contrary to the actual intent of this project, the result might be completely different.
Not sure how effective the service this platform can be but it's still a good move. Any effort that may help an addictive gambler to stop gambling should be appreciated. And let's not forget they are offering this for free (if I'm not mistaken) so there is no harm in giving it a shot.
It can be a good alternative for support groups which most people can't attend for different reasons, especially with their forum and chat feature where you can talk about your problem with people from around the world.

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November 19, 2023, 12:49:55 AM
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Do you really believe that a few step by step tip is gonna stop an addictive gambler to quite? I've seen cases where gamblers went as far as going to see therapists to help them resolve their gambling addictions all to no avail. I'm not saying this isn't a good step, it is, all I'm saying is that the poster sounds so pessimistic about using this program to make addictive gamblers to quite. I'm just saying that contrary to the actual intent of this project, the result might be completely different.
Something is better than nothing which is why what OP is trying to do will not help many, but will definitely help a few and that by itself is a great accomplishment if you think about it.

Also, I disagree with your opinion about op sounding pessimistic. He is just being realistic while you are the one who sounds pessimistic here.
The most important thing is the willingness to help other to overcome gambling addictions and the ops have chosen to select a few people as the project progress and there is a success ratio then he can decide to increase the number of beneficiaries and at some point also the ability to increase the number of those who may enrol in this is depending on the willingness of the gambler to quit by all means.

So with that readiness to quit,  it becomes easier for them to quit with little effort,  so first before the ops can take in new addicts for rehabilitation,  he should first check out for those who are truly ready to quit gambling.
In order to overcome addiction, it's really crucial that there's a willingness. Because the gamblers needs to help themselves first to start the journey of changing what they used to. Those who are currently experiencing a gambling problem can find support from each other who are also going through the same situation. Anyway, the site is good for gamblers who really want to quit and wants to overcome their gambling problem. But it will only work if the gambler itself is really willing and ready to leave gambling and determine to stop on how to effectively do it.

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November 19, 2023, 06:57:53 AM
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If a gambler is challenged with a particular and personal experience with using a gambling platform, he can get the required assistance needed from the community like this by first sharing his own side of view and then others may know how they can come in, if it's gambling issues with the particular platform, then the casino have to be the one responsible for the response to each of their users challenges as such could be better treated on their announcement discussion thread.
Well, how is the casino supposed to be responsible when comes to gambling addiction and it's users? I mean, I have encountered casinos like Stake, for example which explicitly has a page in their casino which is about problem gambling and how to gamble responsibly, they explain very clearly that no one is supposed to expect to get gains over their gambling sessions. They also have a self exclusion program for gamblers who are aware of their problem; what I am trying to say is that casinos (spite of benefitting from the volume of gambling in their platform) usually take the steps demanded by law for people to realize when they have got a problem and how to address it. But beyond that, I would not personally expect a casino to put on the table huge investments to drawn away their own gamblers from fueling their own business.
The thing is that most of the casinos have this features that seek to help problem gambling toward successful exit from such addiction and this seen what they put up on their site to help those in that category and that goes a long way to show how the casino know the risk that is associated with gambling so it better to avoid it in totality instead sliding into it and if that happens the addicts should be ready to go through the process of recovery and also place much more priority on getting out 100% and nothing less.
You see, people don't know many things, they believe everything can be done the way anyone likes it, but it's not always so. In a sane world, there are rules and everyone has their quote to contribute, or else things would go out of control. Talking about the house's responsibility in this context, in some countries, you would not be able to operate a casino without fully registering and being regulated, and if you do all these, you have to obey the rules as operators. One of the rules is for you to have the welfare of your customers at heart, particularly those who could be going through financial and addiction challenges. As much as the house would not know everyone personally to build relationships with them to know the problem in order to ship in their advice and recommendations, they are mandated to have the "Self-exclusion" feature on their website.

This is applicable to land-based casinos too, and it's just like signing an agreement that such a person will not visit their casino for a certain period of time due to a specific reason. However, I've read a series of cases that casinos do not obey as they allow such people to cancel the feature and start gambling again. But the government should not hear such as it's a very serious offence in some countries like the UK as it's a layer to force the house to take responsibility too.

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November 19, 2023, 07:52:02 AM
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You see, people don't know many things, they believe everything can be done the way anyone likes it, but it's not always so. In a sane world, there are rules and everyone has their quote to contribute, or else things would go out of control. Talking about the house's responsibility in this context, in some countries, you would not be able to operate a casino without fully registering and being regulated, and if you do all these, you have to obey the rules as operators. One of the rules is for you to have the welfare of your customers at heart, particularly those who could be going through financial and addiction challenges. As much as the house would not know everyone personally to build relationships with them to know the problem to ship in their advice and recommendations, they are mandated to have the "Self-exclusion" feature on their website.

This applies to land-based casinos too, and it's just like signing an agreement that such a person will not visit their casino for a certain period due to a specific reason. However, I've read a series of cases that casinos do not obey as they allow such people to cancel the feature and start gambling again. But the government should not hear such as it's a very serious offence in some countries like the UK as it's a layer to force the house to take responsibility too.
Well, this may sound very easy in words but not in practice,  because at some point,  you still have to know that even though those casinos that are registered are mandated to follow regulatory guidelines for their operations and players' welfare,  but even at that, there still will focus more on the revenue for the operation so for such it becomes obviously clear that not all the restriction rules will be followed by the casino and that have been the major issues as regards to casinos taking the responsibility to control their client's gambling behaviour.

The highest that they can do is to set an age limit which has already been set to 18+ or better still have a self-exclusion feature,  but anything outside these two,  the casino sees it as a drawback for their profit since they are in the business for the profits.
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The highest that they can do is to set an age limit which has already been set to 18+ or better still have a self-exclusion feature,  but anything outside these two,  the casino sees it as a drawback for their profit since they are in the business for the profits.

I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.

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The highest that they can do is to set an age limit which has already been set to 18+ or better still have a self-exclusion feature,  but anything outside these two,  the casino sees it as a drawback for their profit since they are in the business for the profits.

I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.

Unfortunately, the feeling of gambling is what they make addicted, in addition, casinos invest in research and development about how to put more players getting sucked into the game. I think it would be too ignorant to expect people to just gamble responsibly, where in fact, the thing they play is addictive. Not all people have great self-control toward themselves from external influences.

So I believe the OP initiative is what solves and fixes those who need help, outside of casino control to enforce their gambling responsibility policy, such as limiting or restricting users from playing.
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November 19, 2023, 12:41:37 PM
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The highest that they can do is to set an age limit which has already been set to 18+ or better still have a self-exclusion feature,  but anything outside these two,  the casino sees it as a drawback for their profit since they are in the business for the profits.

I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.
Well, this is not to sound pessimistic but there would have never, and there will never be such a thing as no gambling addicts,, as long as its humans playing gambling, there will always be abuse, and abuse the major thing that gave or gives birth to addiction.

If there were really no gambling addicts, sure there would have been alot  of people giving attention to gambling which simply means that gambling casinos would have had more customers.

But also understand that, the more the number of people in gambling, the more chances that there would be a good number of abusers, and gambling abuse is one of those things that leads to gambling addiction.

So, if you consider this, you will realize that it is still the same, it's like running around in circles, what would have been if there was no addiction is what that is currently is, because there was and is never a time there wouldn't have been addiction in gambling.

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November 19, 2023, 02:08:52 PM
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So, if you consider this, you will realize that it is still the same, it's like running around in circles, what would have been if there was no addiction is what that is currently is, because there was and is never a time there wouldn't have been addiction in gambling.
You're right. @Betwrong is being idealistic in this case expecting stuff which will never happen because humans are inherently greedy and that is why gambling addiction will never fully go away.

However, it can be minimised to a certain extent which is exactly what op is trying to do through his project.

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November 19, 2023, 09:07:40 PM
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So, if you consider this, you will realize that it is still the same, it's like running around in circles, what would have been if there was no addiction is what that is currently is, because there was and is never a time there wouldn't have been addiction in gambling.
You're right. @Betwrong is being idealistic in this case expecting stuff which will never happen because humans are inherently greedy and that is why gambling addiction will never fully go away.

However, it can be minimised to a certain extent which is exactly what op is trying to do through his project.
Come in mind that if there were no gambling addiction then gambling industry wont really be that become so big or something that not making that much revenue on which this is something
turns out to be a typical thing or a solid indication that addiction is always been that part of industry. There might be some people who do able to control their addiction or motive towards gambling but there would be always those people who get addicted into it on which it would really be that resulting into that huge spending into it on which it would be coming into a point
that you are really that losing that much.

Guides and tips on how to treat up addiction could really be found online or even making use of these free services or whatsoever but still in the end,
it would really be that totally depending on how they would really be dealing up with things and make out decisions on their own.

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November 20, 2023, 11:37:57 PM
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I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.

How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.



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How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.
The Government have nothing to comment about when it has to do with gambling, it's already the decisions made by the gamblers and they're free to do anything. Profits or losses, money must be made, that's exactly what comes to the mind of addicted gamblers in the system. They don't care about anything other than themselves and they will be the number one to place wagers on games because theye in for the profits. Casino have no business when it comes to gambling addicts, rather they're open to generating profits when gamblers loses from games.

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How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.
The Government have nothing to comment about when it has to do with gambling, it's already the decisions made by the gamblers and they're free to do anything. Profits or losses, money must be made, that's exactly what comes to the mind of addicted gamblers in the system. They don't care about anything other than themselves and they will be the number one to place wagers on games because theye in for the profits. Casino have no business when it comes to gambling addicts, rather they're open to generating profits when gamblers loses from games.
People who are addicted to gambling do not care that they will lose gambling they think that they will win and cover the loss by going to the next step of gambling. Thus they lose a lot of money which helps a casino site generate a lot of revenue.  Especially with gambling addicts, gambling platform business is run like this. However, it is very difficult to attract such panic gamblers to gambling sites and keep them there for a long time. Gambling addiction requires self-control and teaching yourself to understand that gambling is a bad thing



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November 21, 2023, 09:20:29 PM
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How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.
The Government have nothing to comment about when it has to do with gambling, it's already the decisions made by the gamblers and they're free to do anything. Profits or losses, money must be made, that's exactly what comes to the mind of addicted gamblers in the system. They don't care about anything other than themselves and they will be the number one to place wagers on games because theye in for the profits. Casino have no business when it comes to gambling addicts, rather they're open to generating profits when gamblers loses from games.

If something like this is not coming, are we not going to get controlled of the way how we make our gambling lifestyle, the moment we begin to believe in everything that we see its good for our own self even though they are apperati that way but not as we had thought they were, let every gambler take hold of himself and make sure that they have the very best out from the way they gamble right from the use of the gambling platforms and the games selections they made all for their own good and not waiting to be corrected to do the needful.



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The highest that they can do is to set an age limit which has already been set to 18+ or better still have a self-exclusion feature,  but anything outside these two,  the casino sees it as a drawback for their profit since they are in the business for the profits.

I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.
on the contrary it won't be for the betterment of casinos and betting sites if there are not gambling addicts, a lot of casinos will fade out of the market if we all have responsible gamblers gambling responsibly. It is like a responsible smoker who only chose to smoke a single stick of cigarette a day calculate in a month is 30 sticks, whereby a chain smoker finishes a packet of cigarettes a day, times it to 30 days. Between the two individuals who's bringing much profit to the company in a month? I believe you best know the answer. Casinos knows too well that without gamblers getting addicted to the game's they won't spend more on it gambling that's why they make sure to improvise every means to give us games with addictive characters and features to keep business rolling.
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The highest that they can do is to set an age limit which has already been set to 18+ or better still have a self-exclusion feature,  but anything outside these two,  the casino sees it as a drawback for their profit since they are in the business for the profits.

I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.
You are very correct on the possibility of wipping out negative perceptions of the gambling market if there be no gambling addicts and the government in some places will begin to see gambling as a harmless activity and the ban and restrictions in some cases will be eliminated,  but the thing is that,  will that ever happen,  will gamblers start taking responsibility and not allowing themselves to slide into uncontrollable addictions in the first place?

This are the question we need to answer or create a poll for to ascertaining the level of readiness from the part of the gamblers to fight against that evil hold of addictions,  both the casino and the gamblers will be better off for this on the long run since most at time,  many of the cases of gambling addicted are blamed on the casino most especially in the cases of those addicts that have tried using the self exclusion feature a number of time before sliding back to the same casinos again to continue under the influence of high addicts.
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The highest that they can do is to set an age limit which has already been set to 18+ or better still have a self-exclusion feature,  but anything outside these two,  the casino sees it as a drawback for their profit since they are in the business for the profits.

I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.

We create problems for ourselves, it's not the casino's fault because we gamble. It would be nice if everyone was responsible, but that will never happen. I guess we can say that is impossible, there will always be people who will want more, stronger, and faster. That's probably true for most of us, and only when we make a mistake and get hurt we learn, that's just how it goes. And of course, there will always be people who never learn... and such people are eaten by addiction sooner or later. It's all up to us, either we learn something and try to be smarter and more responsible, or we let something destroy us.

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We create problems for ourselves, it's not the casino's fault because we gamble. It would be nice if everyone was responsible, but that will never happen. I guess we can say that is impossible, there will always be people who will want more, stronger, and faster. That's probably true for most of us, and only when we make a mistake and get hurt we learn, that's just how it goes. And of course, there will always be people who never learn... and such people are eaten by addiction sooner or later. It's all up to us, either we learn something and try to be smarter and more responsible, or we let something destroy us.
I would expand your idea a little that the players themselves act as they see fit when they participate in gambling.  I would like to note that only very experienced players are able to almost completely suppress theuir emotions from the game and this allows them to adhere to a strict logic of actions.  But the majority of players are still not such professionals and they naturally play in a state of euphoria.  And this, in turn, very often makes their moves in the game emotional and even stupid.  In general, in general, I think that the majority of players are stupider when they play in this state.  By the way, this allows them to lose more often, compared to players who   are still able to maintain composure and logic of actions.  But let’s be objective, this fact is an emotional tie in the game and allows casinos to be a little more profitable and the gambling business itself is thriving, partly due to the fact that millions of people are becoming stupid and losing their logic during the game. 
But everyone gets unforgettable emotions and fun.

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November 22, 2023, 12:23:39 PM
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We create problems for ourselves, it's not the casino's fault because we gamble. It would be nice if everyone was responsible, but that will never happen. I guess we can say that is impossible, there will always be people who will want more, stronger, and faster. That's probably true for most of us, and only when we make a mistake and get hurt we learn, that's just how it goes. And of course, there will always be people who never learn... and such people are eaten by addiction sooner or later. It's all up to us, either we learn something and try to be smarter and more responsible, or we let something destroy us.
I would expand your idea a little that the players themselves act as they see fit when they participate in gambling.  I would like to note that only very experienced players are able to almost completely suppress theuir emotions from the game and this allows them to adhere to a strict logic of actions.  But the majority of players are still not such professionals and they naturally play in a state of euphoria.  And this, in turn, very often makes their moves in the game emotional and even stupid.  In general, in general, I think that the majority of players are stupider when they play in this state.  By the way, this allows them to lose more often, compared to players who   are still able to maintain composure and logic of actions.  But let’s be objective, this fact is an emotional tie in the game and allows casinos to be a little more profitable and the gambling business itself is thriving, partly due to the fact that millions of people are becoming stupid and losing their logic during the game. 
But everyone gets unforgettable emotions and fun.
When you are still newbie then you would really be having that kind of impression that you are really that seeing yourself that could easily be able to win up gambling. You would really be making yourself having that kind of involvement and you would really be playing just because you do really believe that you could achieve something like this. On the time that you are already losing that much
then this is where you do make out realization that its never been that realistic or something not that possible. Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself on good control.
Several factors on which it do really make you that desperate and this is something that you should really be avoiding or trying out to avoid as much as possible.
If you do tolerate out these things then you are really that susceptible to failures.

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November 22, 2023, 09:06:46 PM
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How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.
The Government have nothing to comment about when it has to do with gambling, it's already the decisions made by the gamblers and they're free to do anything. Profits or losses, money must be made, that's exactly what comes to the mind of addicted gamblers in the system. They don't care about anything other than themselves and they will be the number one to place wagers on games because theye in for the profits. Casino have no business when it comes to gambling addicts, rather they're open to generating profits when gamblers loses from games.

You're right, neither the casinos or the gover themese are willing to help in certain situations whereby a gambler needs help and couldn't see any, that is why we are to be very mindful of how we gamble, no one can help us like the way we can first help ourselves because they also are in need of help and we are not the only one in need of these, gambling must therefore be played to enjoy with all integrity and we should make sure that everything we do are not what will lead to having a problem in the way we gamble later in the future.



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November 22, 2023, 10:10:38 PM
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You see, people don't know many things, they believe everything can be done the way anyone likes it, but it's not always so. In a sane world, there are rules and everyone has their quote to contribute, or else things would go out of control. Talking about the house's responsibility in this context, in some countries, you would not be able to operate a casino without fully registering and being regulated, and if you do all these, you have to obey the rules as operators. One of the rules is for you to have the welfare of your customers at heart, particularly those who could be going through financial and addiction challenges. As much as the house would not know everyone personally to build relationships with them to know the problem to ship in their advice and recommendations, they are mandated to have the "Self-exclusion" feature on their website.

This applies to land-based casinos too, and it's just like signing an agreement that such a person will not visit their casino for a certain period due to a specific reason. However, I've read a series of cases that casinos do not obey as they allow such people to cancel the feature and start gambling again. But the government should not hear such as it's a very serious offence in some countries like the UK as it's a layer to force the house to take responsibility too.
Well, this may sound very easy in words but not in practice,  because at some point,  you still have to know that even though those casinos that are registered are mandated to follow regulatory guidelines for their operations and players' welfare,  but even at that, there still will focus more on the revenue for the operation so for such it becomes obviously clear that not all the restriction rules will be followed by the casino and that have been the major issues as regards to casinos taking the responsibility to control their client's gambling behaviour.

The highest that they can do is to set an age limit which has already been set to 18+ or better still have a self-exclusion feature,  but anything outside these two,  the casino sees it as a drawback for their profit since they are in the business for the profits.

The other countries strictly implement the rule that they do not allow a minor to enter a casino, whether it is an online or land-based casino. I also don't see anything wrong with this step they are taking.

And this kind of implementation that a country is doing is really good because it only shows a real concern for minors, and it is good to see it being implemented in all countries that are legitimately allowed to operate gambling in each country, if that is where it stands.

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The other countries strictly implement the rule that they do not allow a minor to enter a casino, whether it is an online or land-based casino. I also don't see anything wrong with this step they are taking.

And this kind of implementation that a country is doing is really good because it only shows a real concern for minors, and it is good to see it being implemented in all countries that are legitimately allowed to operate gambling in each country, if that is where it stands.
Under age gambling is what both online and offline casinos don't joke with and some times why the government are so strict on gambling licensing os because of the KYC implementation which will help to expose any possible under-age registration and from the document verification you will be sure to be able to cash up with any of such possibility of underage.

The cosino have the sole right to request for verification from the gambler anytime they feels that the gambler may be an under age and since government laws already cover that aspect is much essential for casinos to comply with that law at all time to avoid sanctioning.
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November 23, 2023, 07:25:19 AM
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We create problems for ourselves, it's not the casino's fault because we gamble. It would be nice if everyone was responsible, but that will never happen. I guess we can say that is impossible, there will always be people who will want more, stronger, and faster. That's probably true for most of us, and only when we make a mistake and get hurt we learn, that's just how it goes. And of course, there will always be people who never learn... and such people are eaten by addiction sooner or later. It's all up to us, either we learn something and try to be smarter and more responsible, or we let something destroy us.
I would expand your idea a little that the players themselves act as they see fit when they participate in gambling.  I would like to note that only very experienced players are able to almost completely suppress theuir emotions from the game and this allows them to adhere to a strict logic of actions.  But the majority of players are still not such professionals and they naturally play in a state of euphoria.  And this, in turn, very often makes their moves in the game emotional and even stupid.  In general, in general, I think that the majority of players are stupider when they play in this state.  By the way, this allows them to lose more often, compared to players who   are still able to maintain composure and logic of actions.  But let’s be objective, this fact is an emotional tie in the game and allows casinos to be a little more profitable and the gambling business itself is thriving, partly due to the fact that millions of people are becoming stupid and losing their logic during the game. 
But everyone gets unforgettable emotions and fun.
When you are still newbie then you would really be having that kind of impression that you are really that seeing yourself that could easily be able to win up gambling. You would really be making yourself having that kind of involvement and you would really be playing just because you do really believe that you could achieve something like this. On the time that you are already losing that much
then this is where you do make out realization that its never been that realistic or something not that possible. Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself on good control.
Several factors on which it do really make you that desperate and this is something that you should really be avoiding or trying out to avoid as much as possible.
If you do tolerate out these things then you are really that susceptible to failures.
I think that people learn patience and common sense in gambling in very different ways.  And they also learn to find a balance between their emotions and the state of euphoria and the logic of actions in a gambling game.  If a person who has become a player quickly learns to find such a balance in his psychological state, then this will further ensure that he will play and learn the maximum pleasure from the game. 
If the process of finding balance takes a long time, then such a  player may indeed become completely disillusioned with gambling and may either stop playing, or, alternatively, become a gambling addict who must be forcibly excommnunicated from gambling.

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November 23, 2023, 07:57:27 AM
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We create problems for ourselves, it's not the casino's fault because we gamble. It would be nice if everyone was responsible, but that will never happen. I guess we can say that is impossible, there will always be people who will want more, stronger, and faster. That's probably true for most of us, and only when we make a mistake and get hurt we learn, that's just how it goes. And of course, there will always be people who never learn... and such people are eaten by addiction sooner or later. It's all up to us, either we learn something and try to be smarter and more responsible, or we let something destroy us.
I would expand your idea a little that the players themselves act as they see fit when they participate in gambling.  I would like to note that only very experienced players are able to almost completely suppress theuir emotions from the game and this allows them to adhere to a strict logic of actions.  But the majority of players are still not such professionals and they naturally play in a state of euphoria.  And this, in turn, very often makes their moves in the game emotional and even stupid.  In general, in general, I think that the majority of players are stupider when they play in this state.  By the way, this allows them to lose more often, compared to players who   are still able to maintain composure and logic of actions.  But let’s be objective, this fact is an emotional tie in the game and allows casinos to be a little more profitable and the gambling business itself is thriving, partly due to the fact that millions of people are becoming stupid and losing their logic during the game. 
But everyone gets unforgettable emotions and fun.
When you are still newbie then you would really be having that kind of impression that you are really that seeing yourself that could easily be able to win up gambling. You would really be making yourself having that kind of involvement and you would really be playing just because you do really believe that you could achieve something like this. On the time that you are already losing that much
then this is where you do make out realization that its never been that realistic or something not that possible. Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself on good control.
Several factors on which it do really make you that desperate and this is something that you should really be avoiding or trying out to avoid as much as possible.
If you do tolerate out these things then you are really that susceptible to failures.
I think that people learn patience and common sense in gambling in very different ways.  And they also learn to find a balance between their emotions and the state of euphoria and the logic of actions in a gambling game.  If a person who has become a player quickly learns to find such a balance in his psychological state, then this will further ensure that he will play and learn the maximum pleasure from the game. 
If the process of finding balance takes a long time, then such a  player may indeed become completely disillusioned with gambling and may either stop playing, or, alternatively, become a gambling addict who must be forcibly excommnunicated from gambling.
I think you are right, completely agree with, like we have discussed in another thread on this board or the gambling discussion board, many who came into gambling didn't do so on their own, majority started gambling because of the kind of money they saw another gambler win, or were told about it, and this made the person to decide to try out gambling since he or she will also like to win such an amount of money too.

And from my own personal experience, newbie gamblers are highly spirited, highly confident in believe that they would win, this pushes most of them to risking far more than they can afford to lose, it's only a matter of time, they will discover that winning in gambling is not as easy as they thought it was, and by this time, they come back to their sense that gambling aside being an activity that requires luck to profit, it also requires patients and open mindedness.

But this is if by this realization, such a person is not addicted yet, for the person who is addicted already, they may never come to this sense until help comes thier way.

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We create problems for ourselves, it's not the casino's fault because we gamble. It would be nice if everyone was responsible, but that will never happen. I guess we can say that is impossible, there will always be people who will want more, stronger, and faster. That's probably true for most of us, and only when we make a mistake and get hurt we learn, that's just how it goes. And of course, there will always be people who never learn... and such people are eaten by addiction sooner or later. It's all up to us, either we learn something and try to be smarter and more responsible, or we let something destroy us.
I would expand your idea a little that the players themselves act as they see fit when they participate in gambling.  I would like to note that only very experienced players are able to almost completely suppress theuir emotions from the game and this allows them to adhere to a strict logic of actions.  But the majority of players are still not such professionals and they naturally play in a state of euphoria.  And this, in turn, very often makes their moves in the game emotional and even stupid.  In general, in general, I think that the majority of players are stupider when they play in this state.  By the way, this allows them to lose more often, compared to players who   are still able to maintain composure and logic of actions.  But let’s be objective, this fact is an emotional tie in the game and allows casinos to be a little more profitable and the gambling business itself is thriving, partly due to the fact that millions of people are becoming stupid and losing their logic during the game. 
But everyone gets unforgettable emotions and fun.
When you are still newbie then you would really be having that kind of impression that you are really that seeing yourself that could easily be able to win up gambling. You would really be making yourself having that kind of involvement and you would really be playing just because you do really believe that you could achieve something like this. On the time that you are already losing that much
then this is where you do make out realization that its never been that realistic or something not that possible. Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself on good control.
Several factors on which it do really make you that desperate and this is something that you should really be avoiding or trying out to avoid as much as possible.
If you do tolerate out these things then you are really that susceptible to failures.
I think that people learn patience and common sense in gambling in very different ways.  And they also learn to find a balance between their emotions and the state of euphoria and the logic of actions in a gambling game.  If a person who has become a player quickly learns to find such a balance in his psychological state, then this will further ensure that he will play and learn the maximum pleasure from the game. 
If the process of finding balance takes a long time, then such a  player may indeed become completely disillusioned with gambling and may either stop playing, or, alternatively, become a gambling addict who must be forcibly excommnunicated from gambling.
Without a doubt, gambling does provide a unique opportunity for people to foster patience and a balance between euphoria and reason. Although steep, this learning curve is necessary. By quickly mastering this balance, gamblers learn how to control themselves better, which makes the experience more enjoyable and fulfilling. Ignoring the other side, though, is not an option. This constant search for balance can, in fact, lead to disappointment or, even worse, addiction. When walking on a wire, mistakes can have very bad results. Although the path to developing self-control in gaming is dangerous, it is also the place where the most important lessons are learned

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November 23, 2023, 01:57:31 PM
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How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.
This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.
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Without a doubt, gambling does provide a unique opportunity for people to foster patience and a balance between euphoria and reason. Although steep, this learning curve is necessary. By quickly mastering this balance, gamblers learn how to control themselves better, which makes the experience more enjoyable and fulfilling. Ignoring the other side, though, is not an option. This constant search for balance can, in fact, lead to disappointment or, even worse, addiction. When walking on a wire, mistakes can have very bad results. Although the path to developing self-control in gaming is dangerous, it is also the place where the most important lessons are learned
  Gambling addiction is shit basically, awful, and it only gets worse as time goes on. They say it’s a progressive illness and it sure is. Addiction blocks emotions, it suppresses them so much you don’t ‘fee’ anything, only when you gamble, it takes you away from you, and your problems and then gives you a hundred more. 12 STEP meetings and counseling are a great way forward and help you to bond and connect with others who have the same issues, to relate and try and make sense of the why’s and get some great support.
  But the onus is on the addict…addicts can only save themselves. We try sometimes to save other people, when we are the one’s in need. You have to turn inward with an addiction and help and learn to love yourself in order not to need it anymore, a task impossible until you receive that gift from other’s. You have to come out of hiding, and talk, unload all the shit that’s been holding you down and try your hardest to move forward.
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November 23, 2023, 07:29:35 PM
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I think you are right, completely agree with, like we have discussed in another thread on this board or the gambling discussion board, many who came into gambling didn't do so on their own, majority started gambling because of the kind of money they saw another gambler win, or were told about it, and this made the person to decide to try out gambling since he or she will also like to win such an amount of money too.

And from my own personal experience, newbie gamblers are highly spirited, highly confident in believe that they would win, this pushes most of them to risking far more than they can afford to lose, it's only a matter of time, they will discover that winning in gambling is not as easy as they thought it was, and by this time, they come back to their sense that gambling aside being an activity that requires luck to profit, it also requires patients and open mindedness.

But this is if by this realization, such a person is not addicted yet, for the person who is addicted already, they may never come to this sense until help comes thier way.
A lot of times many of us are motivated by what we see or hear from others, and in my country,  many gamblers have been birth through promotion and advertisements people who have won large amounts from gambling and this is what has inspired many to even try gambling in the first place, but much more also, we have to agree with the fact that, having such mindset toward gambling may likely lead to frustration and possible lose that may become uncontrollable since what motivates them in the first place is the success story of another person and without putting their luck into check also, sometimes most of this forks are motivated by they friends and close pals that always put they winning to the face of the newbie which will at the end get his attention and possible trials in the long run.

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November 23, 2023, 07:33:27 PM
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Without a doubt, gambling does provide a unique opportunity for people to foster patience and a balance between euphoria and reason. Although steep, this learning curve is necessary. By quickly mastering this balance, gamblers learn how to control themselves better, which makes the experience more enjoyable and fulfilling. Ignoring the other side, though, is not an option. This constant search for balance can, in fact, lead to disappointment or, even worse, addiction. When walking on a wire, mistakes can have very bad results. Although the path to developing self-control in gaming is dangerous, it is also the place where the most important lessons are learned
  Gambling addiction is shit basically, awful, and it only gets worse as time goes on. They say it’s a progressive illness and it sure is. Addiction blocks emotions, it suppresses them so much you don’t ‘fee’ anything, only when you gamble, it takes you away from you, and your problems and then gives you a hundred more. 12 STEP meetings and counseling are a great way forward and help you to bond and connect with others who have the same issues, to relate and try and make sense of the why’s and get some great support.
  But the onus is on the addict…addicts can only save themselves. We try sometimes to save other people, when we are the one’s in need. You have to turn inward with an addiction and help and learn to love yourself in order not to need it anymore, a task impossible until you receive that gift from other’s. You have to come out of hiding, and talk, unload all the shit that’s been holding you down and try your hardest to move forward.
This is why it would really be that important that on the time that you do gamble then you should really gamble for fun but in the sense that you are really that having a good control
towards your gambling activity because if you do really find out yourself to be that impulsive or cant really be able to make our some well decision then expect that there would
really be some potential problems that might rise up and this is something that you should really be avoiding. Getting addicted would most likely specially on the duration that you are playing,
yes you do play for fun but in the sense that you are doing this on day by day then you are really that indeed susceptible to potential addiction.

When it hits? Then it would really be that hard to get out and this is why you should really be careful on what you are dealing off with if you dont like to mess up.

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How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.
This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.



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November 23, 2023, 11:04:22 PM
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Under age gambling is what both online and offline casinos don't joke with and some times why the government are so strict on gambling licensing os because of the KYC implementation which will help to expose any possible under-age registration and from the document verification you will be sure to be able to cash up with any of such possibility of underage.
Also, this is a hard battle for them because they won't determine if the verifications and IDs sent to them is the actual owner and that's why they are being stricter with such policies as for holding the ids and selfies. Because kids can just ask their parents to do it if they have the consent but as long as they have their own measures in doing it, there's no problem at all and they are only complying to the rules of the government that's being placed on them.

The cosino have the sole right to request for verification from the gambler anytime they feels that the gambler may be an under age and since government laws already cover that aspect is much essential for casinos to comply with that law at all time to avoid sanctioning.
Yeah, if they feel that there's something wrong on that account. They're free to do it as that's their own platform and they're the kings of it. Asking for additional verifications and IDs is typically happening in every casino that we know of.

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So, if you consider this, you will realize that it is still the same, it's like running around in circles, what would have been if there was no addiction is what that is currently is, because there was and is never a time there wouldn't have been addiction in gambling.
You're right. @Betwrong is being idealistic in this case expecting stuff which will never happen because humans are inherently greedy and that is why gambling addiction will never fully go away.

However, it can be minimised to a certain extent which is exactly what op is trying to do through his project.
Come in mind that if there were no gambling addiction then gambling industry wont really be that become so big or something that not making that much revenue on which this is something
turns out to be a typical thing or a solid indication that addiction is always been that part of industry. There might be some people who do able to control their addiction or motive towards gambling but there would be always those people who get addicted into it on which it would really be that resulting into that huge spending into it on which it would be coming into a point
that you are really that losing that much.

Guides and tips on how to treat up addiction could really be found online or even making use of these free services or whatsoever but still in the end,
it would really be that totally depending on how they would really be dealing up with things and make out decisions on their own.

You are right, I personally would say that the addiction problems are not primarily the fault of the Casinos, the casinos are companies, they are businesses and they have the businesses because they want to generate money, in this case they make a lot of money  , but they also need players, and especially young players are taught, it is known that when a player falls into addiction it is difficult for him to return once he no longer has money, and that is not the idea, it is more common that there is a person who always has money, controls himself and always be the casino customer, because it is more money that goes to the casino, I say this Taking into consideration the house advantage and the considerations that are like the complexity of the same game that is Chosen to play, which is very different from sports betting that already depends on other factors that are beyond the advantage of lacquers, but even so the casino will always have a way to win with sports Betting, in this order of ideas, I see the problem of addiction not as It is not a casino or an industry that does not exist like this, but it is only the consequence of the very Player who becomes like this, of losing control at that point.

A person is different from many, everyone has their personality and knows how they react to different events, one person can solve a problem in a more orderly way than another, but it takes longer, another is messy but solves a problem quickly, the same thing happens. When a person becomes addicted, but this person wants to get better, then he follows the instructions given to him, because he does his part, because he knows that in the end it will harm him , but there are those who are in addiction, they do not take the advice of Nobody, neither from the proefeisnoales nor from any type of aid, why? because we all have our own Personality and we know how to act in the face of these, hence the consideration that each of us knows how we are and how we can quickly get out of that problem if we do not want to solve it and be with the problem.


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November 23, 2023, 11:57:06 PM
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So, if you consider this, you will realize that it is still the same, it's like running around in circles, what would have been if there was no addiction is what that is currently is, because there was and is never a time there wouldn't have been addiction in gambling.
You're right. @Betwrong is being idealistic in this case expecting stuff which will never happen because humans are inherently greedy and that is why gambling addiction will never fully go away.

However, it can be minimised to a certain extent which is exactly what op is trying to do through his project.
Come in mind that if there were no gambling addiction then gambling industry wont really be that become so big or something that not making that much revenue on which this is something
turns out to be a typical thing or a solid indication that addiction is always been that part of industry. There might be some people who do able to control their addiction or motive towards gambling but there would be always those people who get addicted into it on which it would really be that resulting into that huge spending into it on which it would be coming into a point
that you are really that losing that much.

Guides and tips on how to treat up addiction could really be found online or even making use of these free services or whatsoever but still in the end,
it would really be that totally depending on how they would really be dealing up with things and make out decisions on their own.

You are right, I personally would say that the addiction problems are not primarily the fault of the Casinos, the casinos are companies, they are businesses and they have the businesses because they want to generate money, in this case they make a lot of money  , but they also need players, and especially young players are taught, it is known that when a player falls into addiction it is difficult for him to return once he no longer has money, and that is not the idea, it is more common that there is a person who always has money, controls himself and always be the casino customer, because it is more money that goes to the casino, I say this Taking into consideration the house advantage and the considerations that are like the complexity of the same game that is Chosen to play, which is very different from sports betting that already depends on other factors that are beyond the advantage of lacquers, but even so the casino will always have a way to win with sports Betting, in this order of ideas, I see the problem of addiction not as It is not a casino or an industry that does not exist like this, but it is only the consequence of the very Player who becomes like this, of losing control at that point.

A person is different from many, everyone has their personality and knows how they react to different events, one person can solve a problem in a more orderly way than another, but it takes longer, another is messy but solves a problem quickly, the same thing happens. When a person becomes addicted, but this person wants to get better, then he follows the instructions given to him, because he does his part, because he knows that in the end it will harm him , but there are those who are in addiction, they do not take the advice of Nobody, neither from the proefeisnoales nor from any type of aid, why? because we all have our own Personality and we know how to act in the face of these, hence the consideration that each of us knows how we are and how we can quickly get out of that problem if we do not want to solve it and be with the problem.


People do really loves on giving out blame to other things on which they would really be always having that denial that they are the ones who are at mistake. They would really be
denying as much as they could. No one would really be able to help yourself if you are that minding about gambling in the first place.You would really be looking for yourself
to play no matter what and there's no service or platforms or whatever institution that would be able to help out such addiction. There are really some advises or online
tools or similar that might be helpful but in the end of the day, it would really be that still depending on you.

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November 24, 2023, 12:09:02 AM
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So, if you consider this, you will realize that it is still the same, it's like running around in circles, what would have been if there was no addiction is what that is currently is, because there was and is never a time there wouldn't have been addiction in gambling.
You're right. @Betwrong is being idealistic in this case expecting stuff which will never happen because humans are inherently greedy and that is why gambling addiction will never fully go away.

However, it can be minimised to a certain extent which is exactly what op is trying to do through his project.
Come in mind that if there were no gambling addiction then gambling industry wont really be that become so big or something that not making that much revenue on which this is something
turns out to be a typical thing or a solid indication that addiction is always been that part of industry. There might be some people who do able to control their addiction or motive towards gambling but there would be always those people who get addicted into it on which it would really be that resulting into that huge spending into it on which it would be coming into a point
that you are really that losing that much.

Guides and tips on how to treat up addiction could really be found online or even making use of these free services or whatsoever but still in the end,
it would really be that totally depending on how they would really be dealing up with things and make out decisions on their own.

You are right, I personally would say that the addiction problems are not primarily the fault of the Casinos, the casinos are companies, they are businesses and they have the businesses because they want to generate money, in this case they make a lot of money  , but they also need players, and especially young players are taught, it is known that when a player falls into addiction it is difficult for him to return once he no longer has money, and that is not the idea, it is more common that there is a person who always has money, controls himself and always be the casino customer, because it is more money that goes to the casino, I say this Taking into consideration the house advantage and the considerations that are like the complexity of the same game that is Chosen to play, which is very different from sports betting that already depends on other factors that are beyond the advantage of lacquers, but even so the casino will always have a way to win with sports Betting, in this order of ideas, I see the problem of addiction not as It is not a casino or an industry that does not exist like this, but it is only the consequence of the very Player who becomes like this, of losing control at that point.

A person is different from many, everyone has their personality and knows how they react to different events, one person can solve a problem in a more orderly way than another, but it takes longer, another is messy but solves a problem quickly, the same thing happens. When a person becomes addicted, but this person wants to get better, then he follows the instructions given to him, because he does his part, because he knows that in the end it will harm him , but there are those who are in addiction, they do not take the advice of Nobody, neither from the proefeisnoales nor from any type of aid, why? because we all have our own Personality and we know how to act in the face of these, hence the consideration that each of us knows how we are and how we can quickly get out of that problem if we do not want to solve it and be with the problem.


People do really loves on giving out blame to other things on which they would really be always having that denial that they are the ones who are at mistake. They would really be
denying as much as they could. No one would really be able to help yourself if you are that minding about gambling in the first place.You would really be looking for yourself
to play no matter what and there's no service or platforms or whatever institution that would be able to help out such addiction. There are really some advises or online
tools or similar that might be helpful but in the end of the day, it would really be that still depending on you.

People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty, so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation. You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.

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November 24, 2023, 10:01:15 AM
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I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.
I don't think that the negative connotation stops people from gambling or makes new gamblers stay away from it, so that isn't a reason why casinos would want everyone to become responsible gamblers but they would want every gambler to keep spending as much money as they can because they know once the money has entered their bankroll, there is nothing that can take it away from them even if the gambler starts spreading negative news about them.

Casinos, their owners, and the management barely care about gamblers' sentiments or their personal lives. All they care about is their businesses and they are not wrong about that. If I were running a business, I would surely want every customer to come and use my business and products as much as possible since that will bring more revenue for me and my business.

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November 24, 2023, 11:18:42 AM
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How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.
This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
of course every gamblers will be on their watch or at least those who are interested in
seeking help , we cannot force people doing things and even more that we cannot prevent people from
 gambling but at least the initiative is to let people have better understanding and deep knowledge
about gambling.
Under age gambling is what both online and offline casinos don't joke with and some times why the government are so strict on gambling licensing os because of the KYC implementation which will help to expose any possible under-age registration and from the document verification you will be sure to be able to cash up with any of such possibility of underage.
Also, this is a hard battle for them because they won't determine if the verifications and IDs sent to them is the actual owner and that's why they are being stricter with such policies as for holding the ids and selfies. Because kids can just ask their parents to do it if they have the consent but as long as they have their own measures in doing it, there's no problem at all and they are only complying to the rules of the government that's being placed on them.

The cosino have the sole right to request for verification from the gambler anytime they feels that the gambler may be an under age and since government laws already cover that aspect is much essential for casinos to comply with that law at all time to avoid sanctioning.
Yeah, if they feel that there's something wrong on that account. They're free to do it as that's their own platform and they're the kings of it. Asking for additional verifications and IDs is typically happening in every casino that we know of.
Under age gambling is what both online and offline casinos don't joke with and some times why the government are so strict on gambling licensing os because of the KYC implementation which will help to expose any possible under-age registration and from the document verification you will be sure to be able to cash up with any of such possibility of underage.
Also, this is a hard battle for them because they won't determine if the verifications and IDs sent to them is the actual owner and that's why they are being stricter with such policies as for holding the ids and selfies. Because kids can just ask their parents to do it if they have the consent but as long as they have their own measures in doing it, there's no problem at all and they are only complying to the rules of the government that's being placed on them.

The cosino have the sole right to request for verification from the gambler anytime they feels that the gambler may be an under age and since government laws already cover that aspect is much essential for casinos to comply with that law at all time to avoid sanctioning.
Yeah, if they feel that there's something wrong on that account. They're free to do it as that's their own platform and they're the kings of it. Asking for additional verifications and IDs is typically happening in every casino that we know of.
Thats it , How can they be so sure that the details sent is from the one they wanted to provide?
because nowadays it is easy to send ID's or even pretend it was them because of High technology.

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November 24, 2023, 04:38:13 PM
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Under age gambling is what both online and offline casinos don't joke with and some times why the government are so strict on gambling licensing os because of the KYC implementation which will help to expose any possible under-age registration and from the document verification you will be sure to be able to cash up with any of such possibility of underage.
Also, this is a hard battle for them because they won't determine if the verifications and IDs sent to them is the actual owner and that's why they are being stricter with such policies as for holding the ids and selfies. Because kids can just ask their parents to do it if they have the consent but as long as they have their own measures in doing it, there's no problem at all and they are only complying to the rules of the government that's being placed on them.
Children can verify simply by borrowing the identity of their parents or other adults. They may also have a photo of their parents' ID so they can verify it directly on the casino site. The casino won't know because the kids have already given up their identities. And the casino will agree to the verification.

This will enable children to gamble easily, especially if they know how to deposit and withdraw money. That may be one of the reasons why casinos implement KYC on their sites to avoid underage children registering. Even though it can't stop these children from registering, at least the casino has implemented or followed the rules set by the regulator.

The casinos are not to blame because they also do not require those children or even adults to register with their casinos. This is where parents play a role in being able to monitor their children when they use devices connected to the internet.

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November 24, 2023, 06:41:19 PM
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Under age gambling is what both online and offline casinos don't joke with and some times why the government are so strict on gambling licensing os because of the KYC implementation which will help to expose any possible under-age registration and from the document verification you will be sure to be able to cash up with any of such possibility of underage.
Also, this is a hard battle for them because they won't determine if the verifications and IDs sent to them is the actual owner and that's why they are being stricter with such policies as for holding the ids and selfies. Because kids can just ask their parents to do it if they have the consent but as long as they have their own measures in doing it, there's no problem at all and they are only complying to the rules of the government that's being placed on them.
Children can verify simply by borrowing the identity of their parents or other adults. They may also have a photo of their parents' ID so they can verify it directly on the casino site. The casino won't know because the kids have already given up their identities. And the casino will agree to the verification.

This will enable children to gamble easily, especially if they know how to deposit and withdraw money. That may be one of the reasons why casinos implement KYC on their sites to avoid underage children registering. Even though it can't stop these children from registering, at least the casino has implemented or followed the rules set by the regulator.

The casinos are not to blame because they also do not require those children or even adults to register with their casinos. This is where parents play a role in being able to monitor their children when they use devices connected to the internet.

In the USA, this can be safely avoided with the SSN. Most of the casinos ask for an SSN and the OTP verification on the SSN-affiliated phone number follows that. Isn't this something that can secure children from registering on the casino? I think other countries are more vulnerable to such scams from happening. For example, in tier 3 countries the KYC's are easy to get and the illiteracy rate can make things worse for the parents and children. I mean even 16-year-olds can get their hands on their parent's phone, and easily get the KYC done with the OTPs. However, for the USA things could be very strict. It may not be that accessible for their children to get their hands on their parent's phone. I am not making any assumptions here, but it seems only proper guidance to our children can make things good for them. Maybe a strict environment where they understand the risk of getting involved with such things or websites.
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November 24, 2023, 06:52:37 PM
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I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.
I don't think that the negative connotation stops people from gambling or makes new gamblers stay away from it, so that isn't a reason why casinos would want everyone to become responsible gamblers but they would want every gambler to keep spending as much money as they can because they know once the money has entered their bankroll, there is nothing that can take it away from them even if the gambler starts spreading negative news about them.

Casinos, their owners, and the management barely care about gamblers' sentiments or their personal lives. All they care about is their businesses and they are not wrong about that. If I were running a business, I would surely want every customer to come and use my business and products as much as possible since that will bring more revenue for me and my business.

The reason is because the casino have rules, everyone believes an adult should be responsible for their actions or decision. It's not that they don't care about addicted players. Casinos work hard not to accept a banned addict into their casino. Mainly in online casino. Yet players always have numerous methods of bypassing these restrictions. It's the duty of players to gamble reasonably and not fall victim of problem gambling. The casino won't be there to assist anybody to stop playing gambling. That's why OP's website is crucial in changing the lives of addicted players. Not sure if addicted players affects the gambling traffic. Instead it gives it more publicity. Without gambling addiction, the society will honor the business, and maybe a huge number of people would have joined. But, that's not a good idea of any business. It will only reduce the value of gambling and thereby pump money at the initial stage, then later the same people will prefer to stop. Gambling can't be for all the people. Whether it provides less addiction or not. Moreover, people must get addicted to something. No way gambling addiction won't exist, when there is sport addiction. People who must watch a football match to be happy. It's better to have a traffic we can control and satisfy via customer service, than an uncontrollable traffic. Casinos still make money, from both addicts and responsible players.

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November 24, 2023, 07:49:20 PM
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People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty
I guess it's a normal thing when we feel guilty, we try to find some holes that we can reason out for that mistake we've made.

so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation.
Exactly. There's no problem if we make mistakes as that happens for sometimes but it won't be normal anymore if we keep making mistakes. But other than that, when we make mistakes, it's also fine to admit it and then just do our best to correct it.

You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.
Just be the better version of yourself. Sometimes when we can't forgive ourselves, we're staying to that part that we can't do better because we keep on dwelling in the past and that makes us stuck there. I agree that someone who's struggling to quit just need to admit first that you made a mistake, you're addicted to gambling and then try to do something to move on and make use of your time for some other things.

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November 24, 2023, 08:47:56 PM
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I think you are right, completely agree with, like we have discussed in another thread on this board or the gambling discussion board, many who came into gambling didn't do so on their own, majority started gambling because of the kind of money they saw another gambler win, or were told about it, and this made the person to decide to try out gambling since he or she will also like to win such an amount of money too.

And from my own personal experience, newbie gamblers are highly spirited, highly confident in believe that they would win, this pushes most of them to risking far more than they can afford to lose, it's only a matter of time, they will discover that winning in gambling is not as easy as they thought it was, and by this time, they come back to their sense that gambling aside being an activity that requires luck to profit, it also requires patients and open mindedness.

But this is if by this realization, such a person is not addicted yet, for the person who is addicted already, they may never come to this sense until help comes thier way.
A lot of times many of us are motivated by what we see or hear from others, and in my country,  many gamblers have been birth through promotion and advertisements people who have won large amounts from gambling and this is what has inspired many to even try gambling in the first place, but much more also, we have to agree with the fact that, having such mindset toward gambling may likely lead to frustration and possible lose that may become uncontrollable since what motivates them in the first place is the success story of another person and without putting their luck into check also, sometimes most of this forks are motivated by they friends and close pals that always put they winning to the face of the newbie which will at the end get his attention and possible trials in the long run.
This is a typical example of people who do not have their own mind, they are easily cajoled with what to see, hear or are being influenced by. But those who have their own minds, let me call it a strong mind, will be reading and hearing all those and be smiling and moving away. They will only engage in such if they want to and not because of what the influencers or advertisers say. But really, the temptation of the marketers/influencers is much and could be so irresistible, especially if the company is running promos. There are some promos that personally motivate me, but the terms and conditions attached to them often send me back to my normal self. This is why I hardly gamble with promos/bonuses, I like to use my own money so that I play with my own freedom as well.

Above all in relation to your concluding part, if anyone has a bad mindset about gambling due to advertisements and the rest thinking they lured him into it, then the person is not mature. As an adult, you are free to decide maybe you agree or decline, no one is forcing anyone, and if you agree to gamble conditions, then it's all on you, which is why you have to know what you are signing for and then try your best to gamble and win. After all, some people are still winning in gambling.

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November 24, 2023, 09:33:43 PM
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I think you are right, completely agree with, like we have discussed in another thread on this board or the gambling discussion board, many who came into gambling didn't do so on their own, majority started gambling because of the kind of money they saw another gambler win, or were told about it, and this made the person to decide to try out gambling since he or she will also like to win such an amount of money too.

And from my own personal experience, newbie gamblers are highly spirited, highly confident in believe that they would win, this pushes most of them to risking far more than they can afford to lose, it's only a matter of time, they will discover that winning in gambling is not as easy as they thought it was, and by this time, they come back to their sense that gambling aside being an activity that requires luck to profit, it also requires patients and open mindedness.

But this is if by this realization, such a person is not addicted yet, for the person who is addicted already, they may never come to this sense until help comes thier way.
A lot of times many of us are motivated by what we see or hear from others, and in my country,  many gamblers have been birth through promotion and advertisements people who have won large amounts from gambling and this is what has inspired many to even try gambling in the first place, but much more also, we have to agree with the fact that, having such mindset toward gambling may likely lead to frustration and possible lose that may become uncontrollable since what motivates them in the first place is the success story of another person and without putting their luck into check also, sometimes most of this forks are motivated by they friends and close pals that always put they winning to the face of the newbie which will at the end get his attention and possible trials in the long run.
This is a typical example of people who do not have their own mind, they are easily cajoled with what to see, hear or are being influenced by. But those who have their own minds, let me call it a strong mind, will be reading and hearing all those and be smiling and moving away. They will only engage in such if they want to and not because of what the influencers or advertisers say. But really, the temptation of the marketers/influencers is much and could be so irresistible, especially if the company is running promos. There are some promos that personally motivate me, but the terms and conditions attached to them often send me back to my normal self. This is why I hardly gamble with promos/bonuses, I like to use my own money so that I play with my own freedom as well.

Above all in relation to your concluding part, if anyone has a bad mindset about gambling due to advertisements and the rest thinking they lured him into it, then the person is not mature. As an adult, you are free to decide maybe you agree or decline, no one is forcing anyone, and if you agree to gamble conditions, then it's all on you, which is why you have to know what you are signing for and then try your best to gamble and win. After all, some people are still winning in gambling.

We often go by what we see because there's more of efforts shown in them which we also appreciates, then from there we proceed further in choosing to listen to them, and before we know it  we are giving a try already because we have gambling as a point of being entertained and the first encounter we also had become an irresistible one, this is how it al just started and before we could realize, we are already going far.



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November 24, 2023, 10:47:13 PM
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People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty, so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation. You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.
Really impossible that you cant really be able to determine on whats good and whats bad. Its true that even on the time that we are seeing  that it is already negatively affecting us but still
you didnt really make any actions but rather you do continue on what you are doing. People would really be just completely stopping on the time  that they wont be able to make some bets anymore.
This is a common scenario or common situation on which it isnt really that shocking anymore. We would really be just that making steps or actions on the time that
we are already that devastated on which if we had just made outright decisions then we wont really be making yourself fall out into such condition.

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November 24, 2023, 11:53:15 PM
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How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.
This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.
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November 25, 2023, 05:33:09 AM
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This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.

In advanced countries like Australia that produce countless number of gambling addicts; it's the duty of the government to use gambling money to care for the addicts in any way possible. Or they'll lose out lots of citizens in the country due to gambling. Government is trying to regulate gambling ads to help reduce the high rate of addiction, but the publicity that walks along gambling is enormous and can't be controlled. It's now a word of mouth advert, across the world. The problem is the economic importance of these companies, cigarette for instance, helps in the distribution of tobacco thereby generating more money for the country, but the destruction it causes to their customers, isn't worth the wealth. As every country suffers from the diseases associated to the cigarette niche. Also these industries are legalized because at some point, they're not completely bad. So, the fault always goes to the users, who abuse it. In gambling, the government can administer any form of restrictive measures, but citizens can bypass it and abuse the game, to an extent of becoming addicted. Hence, the fault isn't completely on the side of casinos or government. Even if casinos are banned, which is impossible, gamblers will still bet with peers and group of people. Therefore, to build a strong avenue to change or correct gambling addiction, is by focusing on the younger generations and teach them regarding the wrong aspect of gambling. Mainly, learning money management in school can definitely prepare the younger generations to the greater fight of falling victims of gambling addiction.



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November 25, 2023, 08:20:45 AM
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People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty, so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation. You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.
This advice is very good but the gambler must be responsible and have come to his senses before he could be thinking this way. This is actually a sign of a new birth because no matter what you tell those who are addicted to gambling, they will not yield, while many of them do not even have the sense to think about gambling too much not to mention the guilt from it. Gambling is best done responsibly and if anyone has the guilt of gambling too much, it must have been the person who is losing much or not gaining much, because I don't know anyone who will be winning in gambling and still be feeling guilty about it, guilt of what? This is why taking a break once in a while is advised for such a person, and if gambling is too good to take such a break, the person might want to limit the gambling time, this also helps.

And in case taking a break is what such would opt for, it's good to use the spare time opportunity to learn more about how to gamble to gain, and find ways to minimize losses. There are ways to manage one's portfolio while gambling through some calculations and plans, I strongly suggest that too.

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November 25, 2023, 12:57:00 PM
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This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.

In advanced countries like Australia that produce countless number of gambling addicts; it's the duty of the government to use gambling money to care for the addicts in any way possible. Or they'll lose out lots of citizens in the country due to gambling. Government is trying to regulate gambling ads to help reduce the high rate of addiction, but the publicity that walks along gambling is enormous and can't be controlled. It's now a word of mouth advert, across the world. The problem is the economic importance of these companies, cigarette for instance, helps in the distribution of tobacco thereby generating more money for the country, but the destruction it causes to their customers, isn't worth the wealth. As every country suffers from the diseases associated to the cigarette niche. Also these industries are legalized because at some point, they're not completely bad. So, the fault always goes to the users, who abuse it. In gambling, the government can administer any form of restrictive measures, but citizens can bypass it and abuse the game, to an extent of becoming addicted. Hence, the fault isn't completely on the side of casinos or government. Even if casinos are banned, which is impossible, gamblers will still bet with peers and group of people. Therefore, to build a strong avenue to change or correct gambling addiction, is by focusing on the younger generations and teach them regarding the wrong aspect of gambling. Mainly, learning money management in school can definitely prepare the younger generations to the greater fight of falling victims of gambling addiction.
The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.
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November 25, 2023, 03:53:55 PM
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The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.

You forget that smoking causes both physical and mental problems. Trying to differentiate physical and mental problem isn't possible because they both work cheek by jowls in running the body system. The brain helps the functionalities of the body and vice versa. An injured person can't think straight forward, due to pains. Same for a mentally disabled person. He can hurt his body and also feel disheartened. None is good for any human or better than the other problem. What is important, is reducing the high rate of mentally disabled people in the society, especially, those caused by gambling. As the number of gamblers increase a lot in the society. In addition, any form of illness officially mandates lots of money, not minding the type of illness. Saying the government should focus more on physically ill people over mentally ill citizens, isn't completely proper. The only abstract thing in both affected corporeality, is that mentally ill person; addicted gambler can stay unnoticed. Hence, making the process of tracing him difficult by the government. Unlike a physically ill person, that must be noticed immediately by everyone around them. Addiction takes time before society realizes the problem of the gamblers. I don't think anything, should be the reason why one side of the party won't be helped by the government. So, if the government use the money generated via gambling to tackle addicts and then tobacco money for affected smokers.  

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They say it’s a progressive illness and it sure is.
It sure is, they are right about it. A gambler that doesn't control their emotions and stay away from getting addicted will suffer more as time goes by because they keep going deeper into the sea of addiction.

Addiction blocks emotions, it suppresses them so much you don’t ‘fee’ anything, only when you gamble, it takes you away from you, and your problems and then gives you a hundred more.
It doesn't take you away from your problems but makes you busy and keep your problems hidden until you stop and come out of the casino to realize that you had problems, and as you said, it only increases the problems if not done with limits and control.

addicts can only save themselves. We try sometimes to save other people, when we are the one’s in need. You have to turn inward with an addiction and help and learn to love yourself in order not to need it anymore, a task impossible until you receive that gift from other’s. You have to come out of hiding, and talk, unload all the shit that’s been holding you down and try your hardest to move forward.
Acknowledgment from the addict is important if they want to get out of it because if the gambler doesn't even accept the fact that they are addicted, no one can help them get out of their addiction. So, they help themselves by accepting their addiction and openly talking about their problems so that the ones hearing can help them get out of it.

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November 25, 2023, 09:59:10 PM
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How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.
This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.
Two are different things but having on the same issues in speaking or talks about addiction and this is something a problem that needs to be resolved but actually gambling addiction is really that different in the

sense that it isnt something that could affect out your body or health literally on which in this thing alone then we can say that it is really that totally different approach on how to resolve things
in terms of addiction. In overall it would really be still considered to be a probelm and to those platforms or individuals who are creating something for the benefit
of these addicted gamblers then it would really be that something commendable.

There's no such thing about being free, if there's one then lets just appreciate on what are the things that they are dedicatively trying to make some solutions
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November 25, 2023, 10:10:08 PM
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This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.

In advanced countries like Australia that produce countless number of gambling addicts; it's the duty of the government to use gambling money to care for the addicts in any way possible. Or they'll lose out lots of citizens in the country due to gambling. Government is trying to regulate gambling ads to help reduce the high rate of addiction, but the publicity that walks along gambling is enormous and can't be controlled. It's now a word of mouth advert, across the world. The problem is the economic importance of these companies, cigarette for instance, helps in the distribution of tobacco thereby generating more money for the country, but the destruction it causes to their customers, isn't worth the wealth. As every country suffers from the diseases associated to the cigarette niche. Also these industries are legalized because at some point, they're not completely bad. So, the fault always goes to the users, who abuse it. In gambling, the government can administer any form of restrictive measures, but citizens can bypass it and abuse the game, to an extent of becoming addicted. Hence, the fault isn't completely on the side of casinos or government. Even if casinos are banned, which is impossible, gamblers will still bet with peers and group of people. Therefore, to build a strong avenue to change or correct gambling addiction, is by focusing on the younger generations and teach them regarding the wrong aspect of gambling. Mainly, learning money management in school can definitely prepare the younger generations to the greater fight of falling victims of gambling addiction.

Can government control the internet, can they sanitize everything that comes to the people through the internet, ads and other means are not targeted on gamblers to get addicted, people use them to abuse every opportunity in them just to satisfy their own personal desires, are these same organizations not being regulated by government agencies and yet they make their promotional campaigns through various platforms to spread the news about their website, yet so many abused it, who are to be blamed in this.



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November 26, 2023, 12:23:46 PM
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Unfortunately, the feeling of gambling is what they make addicted, in addition, casinos invest in research and development about how to put more players getting sucked into the game. ~

Do you have any evidence of that? Or do you mean that trying to make your product better is automatically implies making your customers addicted to your product? Then everyone is guilty, every company like Coca-Cola and others. Is that what you mean?

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Well, this is not to sound pessimistic but there would have never, and there will never be such a thing as no gambling addicts,, as long as its humans playing gambling, there will always be abuse, and abuse the major thing that gave or gives birth to addiction. ~

Yes, same as with food addicts, sex addicts and all the other human activities. Some people will always find a way to be addicted to something. If there's a nice and healthy activity, you can turn it into a dangerous one becoming addicted to it. 

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Unfortunately, the feeling of gambling is what they make addicted, in addition, casinos invest in research and development about how to put more players getting sucked into the game. ~

Do you have any evidence of that? Or do you mean that trying to make your product better is automatically implies making your customers addicted to your product? Then everyone is guilty, every company like Coca-Cola and others. Is that what you mean?

That is the bare minimum for a gambling-related company. See the book Addiction by Design: Machine Gambling in Las Vegas, I haven't finished it yet, but, you get the gist. I mean making players spend more time in the game is within the motive of those companies. The gambling industry itself is a competitive space, who wouldn't make their own casino extract more profit compared to its competitor?

Schüll describes the strategic calculations behind game algorithms and machine ergonomics, casino architecture and “ambience management,” player tracking and cash access systems—all designed to meet the market’s desire for maximum “time on device.”

I know what the author describes is the non-online gambling activities, but, there is no reason most parts also apply with the online one.

The word "better" requires a context, drink or social media companies generate profit from their own buyers and users, mind that social media do try to increase user screen time and sugar is also addictive. That might cause indirect consequences, but that does not close the possibility of the company itself investing in shady practices.
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This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.

In advanced countries like Australia that produce countless number of gambling addicts; it's the duty of the government to use gambling money to care for the addicts in any way possible. Or they'll lose out lots of citizens in the country due to gambling. Government is trying to regulate gambling ads to help reduce the high rate of addiction, but the publicity that walks along gambling is enormous and can't be controlled. It's now a word of mouth advert, across the world. The problem is the economic importance of these companies, cigarette for instance, helps in the distribution of tobacco thereby generating more money for the country, but the destruction it causes to their customers, isn't worth the wealth. As every country suffers from the diseases associated to the cigarette niche. Also these industries are legalized because at some point, they're not completely bad. So, the fault always goes to the users, who abuse it. In gambling, the government can administer any form of restrictive measures, but citizens can bypass it and abuse the game, to an extent of becoming addicted. Hence, the fault isn't completely on the side of casinos or government. Even if casinos are banned, which is impossible, gamblers will still bet with peers and group of people. Therefore, to build a strong avenue to change or correct gambling addiction, is by focusing on the younger generations and teach them regarding the wrong aspect of gambling. Mainly, learning money management in school can definitely prepare the younger generations to the greater fight of falling victims of gambling addiction.

Can government control the internet, can they sanitize everything that comes to the people through the internet, ads and other means are not targeted on gamblers to get addicted, people use them to abuse every opportunity in them just to satisfy their own personal desires, are these same organizations not being regulated by government agencies and yet they make their promotional campaigns through various platforms to spread the news about their website, yet so many abused it, who are to be blamed in this.
In case you don't know, yes, the government can control/regulate the internet, ads and many more, only that they turn a blind eye to it. But do they have power and do they have the ability to do it, yes? Most governments are not just responsible while some have their reasons for not regulating it which range from more tax and giving people the freedom of their liberty. So far what they are marketing to you is not offensive, or illegal and is being rightly targeted to the adult community, then They and You are good to go. This is why we don't entirely blame the government for our faults. As citizens, especially adults, we have our duties and responsibilities as well, and these are towards our country and ourselves, we should be the right examples and we should always be responsible. Gambling responsibly is key here, and any adults who are doing otherwise should rather blame themselves and find a solution rather than the government or anything or anybody else.

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The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.

You forget that smoking causes both physical and mental problems. Trying to differentiate physical and mental problem isn't possible because they both work cheek by jowls in running the body system. The brain helps the functionalities of the body and vice versa. An injured person can't think straight forward, due to pains. Same for a mentally disabled person. He can hurt his body and also feel disheartened. None is good for any human or better than the other problem. What is important, is reducing the high rate of mentally disabled people in the society, especially, those caused by gambling. As the number of gamblers increase a lot in the society. In addition, any form of illness officially mandates lots of money, not minding the type of illness. Saying the government should focus more on physically ill people over mentally ill citizens, isn't completely proper. The only abstract thing in both affected corporeality, is that mentally ill person; addicted gambler can stay unnoticed. Hence, making the process of tracing him difficult by the government. Unlike a physically ill person, that must be noticed immediately by everyone around them. Addiction takes time before society realizes the problem of the gamblers. I don't think anything, should be the reason why one side of the party won't be helped by the government. So, if the government use the money generated via gambling to tackle addicts and then tobacco money for affected smokers.  
I know that there is no difference between organic diseases and psychological diseases, and that each is related to the other. What I meant by raising this point is that physical diseases are clear to deal with and bear responsibilities for, but psychological diseases such as behavioral addiction are not easy to deal with, especially if they do not cause physical damage. The authorities will not deal with people who do not show any surprising symptoms or require intervention, and therefore gambling addicts do not appear on their priority list. Based on this, the gambling industry can be considered one of the most profitable sectors for the state, which costs it almost nothing. I hope I have succeeded in clarifying the point for you.
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I think that people learn patience and common sense in gambling in very different ways.  And they also learn to find a balance between their emotions and the state of euphoria and the logic of actions in a gambling game.  If a person who has become a player quickly learns to find such a balance in his psychological state, then this will further ensure that he will play and learn the maximum pleasure from the game.  
If the process of finding balance takes a long time, then such a  player may indeed become completely disillusioned with gambling and may either stop playing, or, alternatively, become a gambling addict who must be forcibly excommnunicated from gambling.
I think you are right, completely agree with, like we have discussed in another thread on this board or the gambling discussion board, many who came into gambling didn't do so on their own, majority started gambling because of the kind of money they saw another gambler win, or were told about it, and this made the person to decide to try out gambling since he or she will also like to win such an amount of money too.

And from my own personal experience, newbie gamblers are highly spirited, highly confident in believe that they would win, this pushes most of them to risking far more than they can afford to lose, it's only a matter of time, they will discover that winning in gambling is not as easy as they thought it was, and by this time, they come back to their sense that gambling aside being an activity that requires luck to profit, it also requires patients and open mindedness.

But this is if by this realization, such a person is not addicted yet, for the person who is addicted already, they may never come to this sense until help comes thier way.
Probably new players are not only energetic, but also very gambling.  They probably have much more adrenaline in their blood from the game than an experienced player.  This is due to the fact that an inexperienced novice player very often finds himself in a gaming situation that he has never seen before in his life.  And this naturally constantly forces his brain to actively decide what to do next.  And all this in a state of euphoria.  And of course, such a player often makes mistakes, which also adds to his worries.  
And you are probably right that a lot of novice players think that they can make money by gambling and, in general, do not put in much effort.  But gradually, of course, they become convinced that this is not at all the case.


Without a doubt, gambling does provide a unique opportunity for people to foster patience and a balance between euphoria and reason. Although steep, this learning curve is necessary. By quickly mastering this balance, gamblers learn how to control themselves better, which makes the experience more enjoyable and fulfilling. Ignoring the other side, though, is not an option. This constant search for balance can, in fact, lead to disappointment or, even worse, addiction. When walking on a wire, mistakes can have very bad results. Although the path to developing self-control in gaming is dangerous, it is also the place where the most important lessons are learned
And in this sense, gambling can probably even be compared to some extent with a very strict and unforgiving teacher.  
And by the way, many of us probably remember our teachers who were really strict, but also fair.  I even think that any person, becoming an adult, often remembers just such teachers who really taught him something useful in life and taught him well becaase of rigor and fairness.  
I think that gambling can be considered a strict and fair teacher in a broad philosophical sense.

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November 28, 2023, 09:03:23 AM
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And in this sense, gambling can probably even be compared to some extent with a very strict and unforgiving teacher. 
And by the way, many of us probably remember our teachers who were really strict, but also fair.  I even think that any person, becoming an adult, often remembers just such teachers who really taught him something useful in life and taught him well becaase of rigor and fairness. 
I think that gambling can be considered a strict and fair teacher in a broad philosophical sense.
To a great extend, I agree with you, we can as well also compare or liken gambling to life itself, and this because life is a brutal and unforgiving teacher, life is ready to teach a man as many times as he or she needs to learn, and she doesn't care how much you have lost, or how difficult the lesson is, she will continue to you brutally without mercy until you learn.

Same also is gambling, for a gambler who fail to properly learn how to participate in gambling without getting involved in problems, such a gambler will keep encountering problems in gambling until he or she learns to gamble responsibly.

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People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty, so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation. You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.
Really impossible that you cant really be able to determine on whats good and whats bad. Its true that even on the time that we are seeing  that it is already negatively affecting us but still
you didnt really make any actions but rather you do continue on what you are doing. People would really be just completely stopping on the time  that they wont be able to make some bets anymore.
This is a common scenario or common situation on which it isnt really that shocking anymore. We would really be just that making steps or actions on the time that
we are already that devastated on which if we had just made outright decisions then we wont really be making yourself fall out into such condition.
Yes, we do have our own self wills and it is really just that too impossible that we wont really be able to determine on whats good and bad just like been said.
It is really just taht there are ones who dont make use of their own common sense but rather they do really tolerate to those things that they do have in mind instead on trying out to
avoid on something which they do know that it would really be bad for them. Gambling addiction is something that cant be resolved out so easily but if you are
really that dedicated on doing so then you could be able to solve it out on your own, if there are things which could help out then its good.

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I think that's what it's all about, we are human, we make mistakes sometimes with money, we can make mistakes even worse, but when we know that we have fallen and we can fix things, the best thing is to be able to do it, not throw ourselves into a bad situation, everything. has a solution, until now what does not have a solution is only death, but in itself everything has a solution, that's why I believe that things can be very good when things are done to improve, the method does not matter, but accepting what was done bad things, in casinos it is very easy to make mistakes, because not everything is written down, nor is a casino obliged that if we put a lot of money into it, they don't have to reward us by giving more bonus money, no, first of all the casinos don't Olivgan to play, we will not be forced to leave an amount of money there, everything we do in a casino is of our own will, never because of something that is imposed on us, that is the only thing we must always consider.

In casino games is when we can make the most mistakes, for that reason we must always have the best of all plans to be able to play, to be able to execute any type of thing, and the best of all is to assume, if we lose, assume What did we lose, not blaming the casino, the friend who was with us, that because we listened to him, or any type of excuse to free ourselves from our guilt, everything we do we must always assume so that things are done and Look better, there is no other way, that's why in casinos not just anyone can enter, anyone can go crazy, lose everything and leave everything there, the best thing is to always have self-control and the money ready to lose, and above all patience, also if we lose then we lost, if we win then enjoy the gain, there is no other way, you always have to go ahead with everything, like everything in life, always look ahead and not get carried away by the bad because Don't miss out, especially in the casinos.

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And in this sense, gambling can probably even be compared to some extent with a very strict and unforgiving teacher. 
And by the way, many of us probably remember our teachers who were really strict, but also fair.  I even think that any person, becoming an adult, often remembers just such teachers who really taught him something useful in life and taught him well becaase of rigor and fairness. 
I think that gambling can be considered a strict and fair teacher in a broad philosophical sense.
To a great extend, I agree with you, we can as well also compare or liken gambling to life itself, and this because life is a brutal and unforgiving teacher, life is ready to teach a man as many times as he or she needs to learn, and she doesn't care how much you have lost, or how difficult the lesson is, she will continue to you brutally without mercy until you learn.

Same also is gambling, for a gambler who fail to properly learn how to participate in gambling without getting involved in problems, such a gambler will keep encountering problems in gambling until he or she learns to gamble responsibly.
It sometimes happens that players who suffered from gambling addiction at the level of mental illness are cured.  I even know one example of such a miraculous cure. 
Life is truly the strictest and often harsh teacher.  And in order to slightly soften the blows of fate that the life of a gambling player can throw at him, other players who have probably successfully recovered from gambling addiction help many players who are already suffering from gambling addiction in the disease stage.
  In particular, QuitGamble.com is one such assistant that can improve the condition of super-gamblers and return them to normal life.  In any case, I hope so and wish success in such a noble activity.

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November 29, 2023, 01:38:26 PM
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To a great extend, I agree with you, we can as well also compare or liken gambling to life itself, and this because life is a brutal and unforgiving teacher, life is ready to teach a man as many times as he or she needs to learn, and she doesn't care how much you have lost, or how difficult the lesson is, she will continue to you brutally without mercy until you learn.

Same also is gambling, for a gambler who fail to properly learn how to participate in gambling without getting involved in problems, such a gambler will keep encountering problems in gambling until he or she learns to gamble responsibly.
It sometimes happens that players who suffered from gambling addiction at the level of mental illness are cured.  I even know one example of such a miraculous cure. 
Life is truly the strictest and often harsh teacher.  And in order to slightly soften the blows of fate that the life of a gambling player can throw at him, other players who have probably successfully recovered from gambling addiction help many players who are already suffering from gambling addiction in the disease stage.
  In particular, QuitGamble.com is one such assistant that can improve the condition of super-gamblers and return them to normal life.  In any case, I hope so and wish success in such a noble activity.
People will not learn a lesson unless they try to experience the worst thing happened in their life that's why we see a lot of people fail on things they do especially on gambling where they think the money is fast. They always think about its easy for them to get rich that's why they got a wrong information installed in their mind and when they face the real scenarios happening there they lose so much and can't control their self anymore since they want to gamble more so they can recover back their losses and to earn huge because they think if they are consistent they became a good gambler later on.

And then they failed and get hook to much that's why its good to have good platforms where we can go if we want to seek some help and also the support of family is really important so that we can get away with this addiction then get back to our normal life.

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November 29, 2023, 01:44:32 PM
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People will not learn a lesson unless they try to experience the worst thing happened in their life that's why we see a lot of people fail on things they do especially on gambling where they think the money is fast. They always think about its easy for them to get rich that's why they got a wrong information installed in their mind and when they face the real scenarios happening there they lose so much and can't control their self anymore since they want to gamble more so they can recover back their losses and to earn huge because they think if they are consistent they became a good gambler later on.

And then they failed and get hook to much that's why its good to have good platforms where we can go if we want to seek some help and also the support of family is really important so that we can get away with this addiction then get back to our normal life.


Yes, that is the reality of life that if you tell people to avoid certain things, they won't listen to you but when they themselves get the losses from such acts, only then they will realize their mistake. This is also very common in gambling. You keep on telling the gamblers to be responsible and not be greedy but the gamblers won't listen. They will only realize that we were right when they will face the loses and learn that whatever was told to them was right.

Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.

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November 29, 2023, 03:14:18 PM
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The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.

You forget that smoking causes both physical and mental problems. Trying to differentiate physical and mental problem isn't possible because they both work cheek by jowls in running the body system. The brain helps the functionalities of the body and vice versa. An injured person can't think straight forward, due to pains. Same for a mentally disabled person. He can hurt his body and also feel disheartened. None is good for any human or better than the other problem. What is important, is reducing the high rate of mentally disabled people in the society, especially, those caused by gambling. As the number of gamblers increase a lot in the society. In addition, any form of illness officially mandates lots of money, not minding the type of illness. Saying the government should focus more on physically ill people over mentally ill citizens, isn't completely proper. The only abstract thing in both affected corporeality, is that mentally ill person; addicted gambler can stay unnoticed. Hence, making the process of tracing him difficult by the government. Unlike a physically ill person, that must be noticed immediately by everyone around them. Addiction takes time before society realizes the problem of the gamblers. I don't think anything, should be the reason why one side of the party won't be helped by the government. So, if the government use the money generated via gambling to tackle addicts and then tobacco money for affected smokers.  
Well, I don't know in the other Countries , but when it is about what I live it is not so. They can charge all the taxes that they are queir, and yes, they tell you that they will help health, sport, whatever, but they do not, that money is for them, and they are replable to make their face, But at least in this country it is not so, so there are many countries that Prohibit casinos , games of chance for this to prevent addicted people and the Solution is not that , it is not prohibit , it is quite the Opposite, to Leave and that People take their Responsibility , the fact that a country Prohibits games of Chance just for protection is a lie , and then much Less the taxes that a Government can Subtract from a casino is a lie that will use them for the benefit of addicts, in The personal I have always thought that the most legal Countries for these Things are the most prosperous, Switzerland, Nordic Countries , which are Countries  that pay anything in taxes because they have such a high quality of life that they can Do.

In this order of Ideas things Should be Worldwide , but they are not, because the rulers we have, they are very bad, just seeing the fact that is happening in the USA there is a war between candidates, Trump makes war , to others too, there is no longer a clean contest where the best wins, but the one that can step on the other and pass over it taking Advantage of the same Power they have , so these Kinds of things are those that should be avoided at all costs, We are people who at any time can we say that politics is the exit to this? No, neither politicians nor politicians are the solution to problems in the world, the casinos that prohibit them, and to help them a government? No, in a casino people who are wrong must first accept that they are Adding and if they have the money they Should put into treatment with a psychologist who helps him, he will not be able to do unless he has a great willpower, that is what What more helps.


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November 29, 2023, 03:30:30 PM
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Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.
Any platform as long as it is free and provided to help gamblers play responsibly and be wiser will be better, especially if they succeed in stopping their gambling addiction. This site will always be used by those who need it, usually gambling addicts who have almost given up and have no other way. To get out, they definitely need a platform like this to be able to slowly reduce their bad habits.

Many gamblers have been abandoned by their families and even lost their families, so maybe this platform will help a little to reduce their dependence on gambling a little so that they can recover little by little from their bad gambling habits. So this kind of site is definitely needed by many gambling addicts and gamblers, even though it is not completely helpful, at least try to start using this platform so that it can get better.

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November 29, 2023, 04:02:22 PM
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The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.

You forget that smoking causes both physical and mental problems. Trying to differentiate physical and mental problem isn't possible because they both work cheek by jowls in running the body system. The brain helps the functionalities of the body and vice versa. An injured person can't think straight forward, due to pains. Same for a mentally disabled person. He can hurt his body and also feel disheartened. None is good for any human or better than the other problem. What is important, is reducing the high rate of mentally disabled people in the society, especially, those caused by gambling. As the number of gamblers increase a lot in the society. In addition, any form of illness officially mandates lots of money, not minding the type of illness. Saying the government should focus more on physically ill people over mentally ill citizens, isn't completely proper. The only abstract thing in both affected corporeality, is that mentally ill person; addicted gambler can stay unnoticed. Hence, making the process of tracing him difficult by the government. Unlike a physically ill person, that must be noticed immediately by everyone around them. Addiction takes time before society realizes the problem of the gamblers. I don't think anything, should be the reason why one side of the party won't be helped by the government. So, if the government use the money generated via gambling to tackle addicts and then tobacco money for affected smokers.  
Well, I don't know in the other Countries , but when it is about what I live it is not so. They can charge all the taxes that they are queir, and yes, they tell you that they will help health, sport, whatever, but they do not, that money is for them, and they are replable to make their face, But at least in this country it is not so, so there are many countries that Prohibit casinos , games of chance for this to prevent addicted people and the Solution is not that , it is not prohibit , it is quite the Opposite, to Leave and that People take their Responsibility , the fact that a country Prohibits games of Chance just for protection is a lie , and then much Less the taxes that a Government can Subtract from a casino is a lie that will use them for the benefit of addicts, in The personal I have always thought that the most legal Countries for these Things are the most prosperous, Switzerland, Nordic Countries , which are Countries  that pay anything in taxes because they have such a high quality of life that they can Do.
Prohibition policies were not useful in any way in reducing the spread of addiction among gamblers, especially since gambling activity can be practiced on any game locally without the need at all for the presence of the state or one of its institutions to regulate. For example, I live in a conservative country whose religion is Islam, which is considered one of the most important sources of legislation. Although the Islamic religion clearly prohibits all gambling activities, the state regulates the sector and benefits fully from its revenues without even bothering to take care of addicts.
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November 29, 2023, 04:14:51 PM
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Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.
After gambling, when everyone who's on the dark side will come to realize that they can't do it alone if they want to quit already. With services like quitgamble and others that are the same in existence.

They're the ones helping the gamblers who don't have any solution for their current problem and they can't face it on their own.

Having guides like qg is going to help them the need that they should have for them to overcome gambling problems that's hard to deal if done alone.

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November 29, 2023, 04:16:54 PM
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OP I agree with you specification that you dont relate to any other category forms of gambling aside "Quit Gambling" which is your aim. This singular motive would enhance your professionalism to meeting up the the addition gamblers goals to quitting gambling.
I can also imagine such as World health organization (WHO) saying smokers are liable to die young yet they give the authorizations to producing same cigarettes.

I am impressed of your objectives but I have no interest in your aim because I am not a victim of the gambling addicts and I don't want to quit gambling yet. 😆
I see how anti-gambling you are but hope you could dependently make relieved to those who are indeed in-need to quit gambling because there are whole lot of them roaming waywardly around the streets.

I would love to ask OP, I personally haven't about this your system but it is a welcomed so I am concerned to ask if you can conventionally make it better known by creating awareness in both online's and offlines maybe some sorts of seminars may help which you can also function as well better in a physical rapporting with clients or addicted victims of I may suggest.

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People will not learn a lesson unless they try to experience the worst thing happened in their life that's why we see a lot of people fail on things they do especially on gambling where they think the money is fast. They always think about its easy for them to get rich that's why they got a wrong information installed in their mind and when they face the real scenarios happening there they lose so much and can't control their self anymore since they want to gamble more so they can recover back their losses and to earn huge because they think if they are consistent they became a good gambler later on.

And then they failed and get hook to much that's why its good to have good platforms where we can go if we want to seek some help and also the support of family is really important so that we can get away with this addiction then get back to our normal life.


Yes, that is the reality of life that if you tell people to avoid certain things, they won't listen to you but when they themselves get the losses from such acts, only then they will realize their mistake. This is also very common in gambling. You keep on telling the gamblers to be responsible and not be greedy but the gamblers won't listen. They will only realize that we were right when they will face the loses and learn that whatever was told to them was right.

Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.
A person can change his habits only when he realizes that he is doing something wrong. And because of that he is suffering a lot. But gambling is something that does not allow a person to anticipate his losses and instead tempts him to become rich. Because of this, a gambler does not want to easily accept gambling as bad. They also gamble regularly and dream of winning big. Because of this they are not ready to listen to good advice from others. So I am unsure if any site can help someone out of their gambling addiction

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November 29, 2023, 05:59:11 PM
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And in this sense, gambling can probably even be compared to some extent with a very strict and unforgiving teacher. 
And by the way, many of us probably remember our teachers who were really strict, but also fair.  I even think that any person, becoming an adult, often remembers just such teachers who really taught him something useful in life and taught him well becaase of rigor and fairness. 
I think that gambling can be considered a strict and fair teacher in a broad philosophical sense.
To a great extend, I agree with you, we can as well also compare or liken gambling to life itself, and this because life is a brutal and unforgiving teacher, life is ready to teach a man as many times as he or she needs to learn, and she doesn't care how much you have lost, or how difficult the lesson is, she will continue to you brutally without mercy until you learn.

Same also is gambling, for a gambler who fail to properly learn how to participate in gambling without getting involved in problems, such a gambler will keep encountering problems in gambling until he or she learns to gamble responsibly.
Though it's true, it's unfortunate that a lot of people are so stubborn that they don't stop until they ruin their lives and lose everything because of gambling, or get themselves stuck in a circle of loan repayments because of borrowing a lot of money for their gambling activities. They only realize their mistakes after it's all over for them, and they don't have anywhere to go anymore and that's why they can't continue to gamble as there are no funds for that.

A human being is created with a mind, that gives it the ability to think and understand things, but it ignores everything that comes in front of it only to continue doing what is ruining them slowly. I feel very sad for people who don't learn when they make a mistake for the first time or the first few times.

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November 29, 2023, 07:03:48 PM
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People will not learn a lesson unless they try to experience the worst thing happened in their life that's why we see a lot of people fail on things they do especially on gambling where they think the money is fast. They always think about its easy for them to get rich that's why they got a wrong information installed in their mind and when they face the real scenarios happening there they lose so much and can't control their self anymore since they want to gamble more so they can recover back their losses and to earn huge because they think if they are consistent they became a good gambler later on.

And then they failed and get hook to much that's why its good to have good platforms where we can go if we want to seek some help and also the support of family is really important so that we can get away with this addiction then get back to our normal life.


Yes, that is the reality of life that if you tell people to avoid certain things, they won't listen to you but when they themselves get the losses from such acts, only then they will realize their mistake. This is also very common in gambling. You keep on telling the gamblers to be responsible and not be greedy but the gamblers won't listen. They will only realize that we were right when they will face the loss and learn that whatever was told to them was right.

Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.
When it comes to humans,  the most difficult thing is to advise them outside their own life experiences and as such it has to do with a lot of time and what comes their way as individuals what they choose to believe in and whatever,  most times the individuals chose to believe whatever they chose to and at the same time we must choose what choices and what are their possible outcomes.

All this need to be considered while making decisions on what we take as risk and what to expect along the line,  for sure personal face hand experience is far more better than telling someone because of third-party experiences it doesn't work that way and as far as I know everyone needs to make a choice based of the information that they have gained.
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November 29, 2023, 07:33:57 PM
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People will not learn a lesson unless they try to experience the worst thing happened in their life that's why we see a lot of people fail on things they do especially on gambling where they think the money is fast. They always think about its easy for them to get rich that's why they got a wrong information installed in their mind and when they face the real scenarios happening there they lose so much and can't control their self anymore since they want to gamble more so they can recover back their losses and to earn huge because they think if they are consistent they became a good gambler later on.

And then they failed and get hook to much that's why its good to have good platforms where we can go if we want to seek some help and also the support of family is really important so that we can get away with this addiction then get back to our normal life.


Yes, that is the reality of life that if you tell people to avoid certain things, they won't listen to you but when they themselves get the losses from such acts, only then they will realize their mistake. This is also very common in gambling. You keep on telling the gamblers to be responsible and not be greedy but the gamblers won't listen. They will only realize that we were right when they will face the loss and learn that whatever was told to them was right.

Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.
When it comes to humans,  the most difficult thing is to advise them outside their own life experiences and as such it has to do with a lot of time and what comes their way as individuals what they choose to believe in and whatever,  most times the individuals chose to believe whatever they chose to and at the same time we must choose what choices and what are their possible outcomes.

All this need to be considered while making decisions on what we take as risk and what to expect along the line,  for sure personal face hand experience is far more better than telling someone because of third-party experiences it doesn't work that way and as far as I know everyone needs to make a choice based of the information that they have gained.
If I understand you correctly, then I would have to say that first hand experiences arent always the best way to learn, first hand experience have put some people in their early grave, they never had what we can term as a second Chance, second chance is expensive, not every one is given the grace to have it, this is why we must learn to learn from other people's experiences, and not wait until something happens to us before we learn.

It is commonly said that, a wise person learns from the experiences of others people, he does not wait for something to happen to him before he learns, he simply draws knowledge and wisdom from what he have seen or heard happen to other people, this is something I think I've talked about here countless of times.

In gambling, it's important to pay attention to other people's experiences, for there is a lot of lesson to learn from there, we should not wait until something (maybe bad) happens to us before we learn, for doing so could be dangerous, like I said before, not everyone who waited to learn from first hand experiences had the opportunity of correcting themselves after the first first hand experience came.

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November 29, 2023, 08:24:40 PM
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Prohibition policies were not useful in any way in reducing the spread of addiction among gamblers, especially since gambling activity can be practiced on any game locally without the need at all for the presence of the state or one of its institutions to regulate.

You're right because if prohibition could have been the way out to solve every gambling addiction then those that would have first supported this are the governments, because they wouldn't want the people to be that involved in gambling, meanwhile that is not the problem about addiction in general, people also get addicted to other things aside gambling such as alcohol, food, women and other pleasurable things around us, so using prohibition policy is like stopping gambling itself all because of addiction which is impossible.



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November 29, 2023, 11:26:53 PM
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People will not learn a lesson unless they try to experience the worst thing happened in their life that's why we see a lot of people fail on things they do especially on gambling where they think the money is fast. They always think about its easy for them to get rich that's why they got a wrong information installed in their mind and when they face the real scenarios happening there they lose so much and can't control their self anymore since they want to gamble more so they can recover back their losses and to earn huge because they think if they are consistent they became a good gambler later on.

And then they failed and get hook to much that's why its good to have good platforms where we can go if we want to seek some help and also the support of family is really important so that we can get away with this addiction then get back to our normal life.


Yes, that is the reality of life that if you tell people to avoid certain things, they won't listen to you but when they themselves get the losses from such acts, only then they will realize their mistake. This is also very common in gambling. You keep on telling the gamblers to be responsible and not be greedy but the gamblers won't listen. They will only realize that we were right when they will face the loses and learn that whatever was told to them was right.

Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.

Not all people don't listen, only foolish people dare to try their luck and never listen to advice of other people.  There are some people who are wise enough to learn from the experiences of others. Now the question would be which of these two kind of people do we bleong?

As we can see there are also many gamblers that are not having difficulty with their finances.  This is because these gamblers are able to distinguish the right things to do by learning from others experience.  Yes people have the capability to learn from other experience, only foolish ones are not becaue they keep on insisting their own thing even if it will cost them financial damages.

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November 30, 2023, 12:24:34 AM
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People will not learn a lesson unless they try to experience the worst thing happened in their life that's why we see a lot of people fail on things they do especially on gambling where they think the money is fast. They always think about its easy for them to get rich that's why they got a wrong information installed in their mind and when they face the real scenarios happening there they lose so much and can't control their self anymore since they want to gamble more so they can recover back their losses and to earn huge because they think if they are consistent they became a good gambler later on.

And then they failed and get hook to much that's why its good to have good platforms where we can go if we want to seek some help and also the support of family is really important so that we can get away with this addiction then get back to our normal life.


Yes, that is the reality of life that if you tell people to avoid certain things, they won't listen to you but when they themselves get the losses from such acts, only then they will realize their mistake. This is also very common in gambling. You keep on telling the gamblers to be responsible and not be greedy but the gamblers won't listen. They will only realize that we were right when they will face the loses and learn that whatever was told to them was right.

Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.

Not all people don't listen, only foolish people dare to try their luck and never listen to advice of other people.  There are some people who are wise enough to learn from the experiences of others. Now the question would be which of these two kind of people do we bleong?
well some of those not fool already learn their lessons from Listening meaning many of us have already experienced being fool one day of our life and yes I also admit being one back in the days.
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As we can see there are also many gamblers that are not having difficulty with their finances.  This is because these gamblers are able to distinguish the right things to do by learning from others experience.  Yes people have the capability to learn from other experience, only foolish ones are not becaue they keep on insisting their own thing even if it will cost them financial damages.
but this is gambling mate, people use to gamble everything and in any way as some gambles their money while others gambled their lives .

we have seen how many lives have wasted just because of wrong decisioning and wrong path in gambling but that is their faith , let us change ours now or become like them sooner.

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November 30, 2023, 04:29:33 PM
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Prohibition policies were not useful in any way in reducing the spread of addiction among gamblers, especially since gambling activity can be practiced on any game locally without the need at all for the presence of the state or one of its institutions to regulate.

You're right because if prohibition could have been the way out to solve every gambling addiction then those that would have first supported this are the governments, because they wouldn't want the people to be that involved in gambling, meanwhile that is not the problem about addiction in general, people also get addicted to other things aside gambling such as alcohol, food, women and other pleasurable things around us, so using prohibition policy is like stopping gambling itself all because of addiction which is impossible.
The most clear examples of all of this can be found if you succeed in finding statistics on gambling activities in countries whose laws completely prohibit the practice of these activities, and which are always countries that derive their laws from the Islamic system of positive rulings that clearly forbid gambling. The rates of gambling activities in these countries will be high compared to the laws that are supposed to prevent this. Of course, we will not hear about any cases of pathological addiction, and therefore we will not hear about any role that the state can play in that.
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November 30, 2023, 07:52:23 PM
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Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.
After gambling, when everyone who's on the dark side will come to realize that they can't do it alone if they want to quit already. With services like quitgamble and others that are the same in existence.

They're the ones helping the gamblers who don't have any solution for their current problem and they can't face it on their own.

Having guides like qg is going to help them the need that they should have for them to overcome gambling problems that's hard to deal if done alone.
People would only realize when its too late but earlier than that then they wouldnt really listen on what are those advises or sayings or suggestions about quitting or having that moderation with gambling.
It is really just that a normal scenario that tons of gamblers who do completely only stop on the time that they are experiencing those bad situations and making out regrets but it is already too late.
Gambling wont really be ending up on a huge problem if you do really just that make yourself that responsible or having really t hat good control. People do usually mess up on the time that they do make out those bad decisions just because of wrong assumptions. Somewhat there are groups,org., professionals who do offer out gambling addiction but just like been said that the main solution
to this is on having that self acceptance and would really be that willing to quit up gambling on point.

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November 30, 2023, 08:21:53 PM
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Prohibition policies were not useful in any way in reducing the spread of addiction among gamblers, especially since gambling activity can be practiced on any game locally without the need at all for the presence of the state or one of its institutions to regulate.

You're right because if prohibition could have been the way out to solve every gambling addiction then those that would have first supported this are the governments, because they wouldn't want the people to be that involved in gambling, meanwhile that is not the problem about addiction in general, people also get addicted to other things aside gambling such as alcohol, food, women and other pleasurable things around us, so using prohibition policy is like stopping gambling itself all because of addiction which is impossible.
The most clear examples of all of this can be found if you succeed in finding statistics on gambling activities in countries whose laws completely prohibit the practice of these activities, and which are always countries that derive their laws from the Islamic system of positive rulings that clearly forbid gambling. The rates of gambling activities in these countries will be high compared to the laws that are supposed to prevent this. Of course, we will not hear about any cases of pathological addiction, and therefore we will not hear about any role that the state can play in that.

I've seen even alot of people in other religions that forbid gambling just as from the example you made and yet the people under this same religious beliefs engaged in gambling because they don't personally see gambling as something bad than a means of having fun, we have to got the real idea out of things like this, it's not about the law, government, culture or customs, but the way we personally see something as being good or bad for our own benefits.



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November 30, 2023, 10:33:21 PM
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People will not learn a lesson unless they try to experience the worst thing happened in their life that's why we see a lot of people fail on things they do especially on gambling where they think the money is fast. They always think about its easy for them to get rich that's why they got a wrong information installed in their mind and when they face the real scenarios happening there they lose so much and can't control their self anymore since they want to gamble more so they can recover back their losses and to earn huge because they think if they are consistent they became a good gambler later on.

And then they failed and get hook to much that's why its good to have good platforms where we can go if we want to seek some help and also the support of family is really important so that we can get away with this addiction then get back to our normal life.


Yes, that is the reality of life that if you tell people to avoid certain things, they won't listen to you but when they themselves get the losses from such acts, only then they will realize their mistake. This is also very common in gambling. You keep on telling the gamblers to be responsible and not be greedy but the gamblers won't listen. They will only realize that we were right when they will face the loses and learn that whatever was told to them was right.

Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.
I agree with that bro. Thumbs up to all the platforms that are promoting this kind of service. Quitting to gamble is not easy and I like what he said about they will not talk about "responsible gambling", that should be the case. Only quitting is the best choice for an addicted gambler to stop.
I quit smoking by not being a responsible smoker, I just quit it all of a sudden while I am thinking about my kids. Questions like, "What if they get sick because of me?" It's a bad habit because of the 2nd hand smell which has a worse effect for those who will inhale it.
I think it's the same with gambling addiction, we cannot say we will just have 1-5 bets per day in a casino game, that's BS. There will always be a chance that we ain't stopping until we get our losses or we are feeling lucky and we want to continue playing the game.
Quitting must be firm, unwavering and once we stop there's no going back. 4 years I am not smoking anymore and my health is better.

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December 01, 2023, 07:13:29 AM
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The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.

You forget that smoking causes both physical and mental problems. Trying to differentiate physical and mental problem isn't possible because they both work cheek by jowls in running the body system. The brain helps the functionalities of the body and vice versa. An injured person can't think straight forward, due to pains. Same for a mentally disabled person. He can hurt his body and also feel disheartened. None is good for any human or better than the other problem. What is important, is reducing the high rate of mentally disabled people in the society, especially, those caused by gambling. As the number of gamblers increase a lot in the society. In addition, any form of illness officially mandates lots of money, not minding the type of illness. Saying the government should focus more on physically ill people over mentally ill citizens, isn't completely proper. The only abstract thing in both affected corporeality, is that mentally ill person; addicted gambler can stay unnoticed. Hence, making the process of tracing him difficult by the government. Unlike a physically ill person, that must be noticed immediately by everyone around them. Addiction takes time before society realizes the problem of the gamblers. I don't think anything, should be the reason why one side of the party won't be helped by the government. So, if the government use the money generated via gambling to tackle addicts and then tobacco money for affected smokers.  
Well, I don't know in the other Countries , but when it is about what I live it is not so. They can charge all the taxes that they are queir, and yes, they tell you that they will help health, sport, whatever, but they do not, that money is for them, and they are replable to make their face, But at least in this country it is not so, so there are many countries that Prohibit casinos , games of chance for this to prevent addicted people and the Solution is not that , it is not prohibit , it is quite the Opposite, to Leave and that People take their Responsibility , the fact that a country Prohibits games of Chance just for protection is a lie , and then much Less the taxes that a Government can Subtract from a casino is a lie that will use them for the benefit of addicts, in The personal I have always thought that the most legal Countries for these Things are the most prosperous, Switzerland, Nordic Countries , which are Countries  that pay anything in taxes because they have such a high quality of life that they can Do.
Prohibition policies were not useful in any way in reducing the spread of addiction among gamblers, especially since gambling activity can be practiced on any game locally without the need at all for the presence of the state or one of its institutions to regulate. For example, I live in a conservative country whose religion is Islam, which is considered one of the most important sources of legislation. Although the Islamic religion clearly prohibits all gambling activities, the state regulates the sector and benefits fully from its revenues without even bothering to take care of addicts.
Prohibition policies in gambling could work, but they are often weak or not properly tailored, and the enforcement of the existing ones is even weak due to the government's unwillingness. Government has so much power and if they really want to enforce a policy, they will do it, but because of the lack of will or the revenue they are earning from it as you said, they will turn a blind eye. However, government or not, we all have key roles to play in our lives and even in the society, there are responsibilities that we are saddled to perform to ourselves to be useful for ourselves if not for our society. The government can't do everything for us and I do not think parents, friends and society can do that for us either, we need to be cautious where necessary and be a reasonable and responsible fellow. Everyone must know right from wrong and must force themselves to do what is right always. This is just the way we must know our limits in everything so that it will not cause unforeseeable issues in the future.

In other words, if the government and external forces cannot curtail you through policies and enforcement, you should curtail yourself for your own good, and for that of your society.

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December 01, 2023, 12:59:12 PM
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Prohibition policies in gambling could work, but they are often weak or not properly tailored, and the enforcement of the existing ones is even weak due to the government's unwillingness. Government has so much power and if they really want to enforce a policy, they will do it, but because of the lack of will or the revenue they are earning from it as you said, they will turn a blind eye. However, government or not, we all have key roles to play in our lives and even in the society, there are responsibilities that we are saddled to perform to ourselves to be useful for ourselves if not for our society. The government can't do everything for us and I do not think parents, friends and society can do that for us either, we need to be cautious where necessary and be a reasonable and responsible fellow. Everyone must know right from wrong and must force themselves to do what is right always. This is just the way we must know our limits in everything so that it will not cause unforeseeable issues in the future.

In other words, if the government and external forces cannot curtail you through policies and enforcement, you should curtail yourself for your own good, and for that of your society.
It's true that the government creates policies but often fails to implement them. What if the government took a proactive approach, integrating policy and education? Imagine a strong educational effort on gambling risks and responsible play alongside stricter enforcement. This dual strategy may lead to a more informed society where people know right from wrong and how to carry on the addictive world of gambling

Personal willpower is crucial to resisting gambling. The psychological appeal of gambling must also be considered. We could also promote self-regulation and mindfulness in our culture. Could community support groups or gambling psychology education be helpful? A community that encourages self-awareness and responsible gambling may help us address this issue on a personal and societal level

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December 01, 2023, 01:17:22 PM
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Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.
Any platform as long as it is free and provided to help gamblers play responsibly and be wiser will be better, especially if they succeed in stopping their gambling addiction. This site will always be used by those who need it, usually gambling addicts who have almost given up and have no other way. To get out, they definitely need a platform like this to be able to slowly reduce their bad habits.

Many gamblers have been abandoned by their families and even lost their families, so maybe this platform will help a little to reduce their dependence on gambling a little so that they can recover little by little from their bad gambling habits. So this kind of site is definitely needed by many gambling addicts and gamblers, even though it is not completely helpful, at least try to start using this platform so that it can get better.
If this particular thought about this site possible then I think, every gambler whether an addict or not should actually try as much as possible to actually visit this site because most of the so called addict didn't just start up and became addicts you know, they actually went through a process and I believe that if other gamblers can start early and involved themselves in the activity of the sites of which will yield positive results then it would be beneficial to the gambling community alot.

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December 01, 2023, 02:38:31 PM
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Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.
Any platform as long as it is free and provided to help gamblers play responsibly and be wiser will be better, especially if they succeed in stopping their gambling addiction. This site will always be used by those who need it, usually gambling addicts who have almost given up and have no other way. To get out, they definitely need a platform like this to be able to slowly reduce their bad habits.

Many gamblers have been abandoned by their families and even lost their families, so maybe this platform will help a little to reduce their dependence on gambling a little so that they can recover little by little from their bad gambling habits. So this kind of site is definitely needed by many gambling addicts and gamblers, even though it is not completely helpful, at least try to start using this platform so that it can get better.
If this particular thought about this site possible then I think, every gambler whether an addict or not should actually try as much as possible to actually visit this site because most of the so called addict didn't just start up and became addicts you know, they actually went through a process and I believe that if other gamblers can start early and involved themselves in the activity of the sites of which will yield positive results then it would be beneficial to the gambling community alot.
You are very correct, I have to agree with you, we often say that prevention is much better than looking for a cure, this simply means that, it is absolutely better to prevent a possible bad thing from happening, than allowing it to happen, then afterwards, start lookin for a solution.

It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.

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December 01, 2023, 06:43:23 PM
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Anyways we need platforms like QuitGamble etc so that people keep reminding themselves of the dark side of it and remain in balance while gambling.
Any platform as long as it is free and provided to help gamblers play responsibly and be wiser will be better, especially if they succeed in stopping their gambling addiction. This site will always be used by those who need it, usually gambling addicts who have almost given up and have no other way. To get out, they definitely need a platform like this to be able to slowly reduce their bad habits.

Many gamblers have been abandoned by their families and even lost their families, so maybe this platform will help a little to reduce their dependence on gambling a little so that they can recover little by little from their bad gambling habits. So this kind of site is definitely needed by many gambling addicts and gamblers, even though it is not completely helpful, at least try to start using this platform so that it can get better.
If this particular thought about this site possible then I think, every gambler whether an addict or not should actually try as much as possible to actually visit this site because most of the so called addict didn't just start up and became addicts you know, they actually went through a process and I believe that if other gamblers can start early and involved themselves in the activity of the sites of which will yield positive results then it would be beneficial to the gambling community alot.
You are very correct, I have to agree with you, we often say that prevention is much better than looking for a cure, this simply means that, it is absolutely better to prevent a possible bad thing from happening, than allowing it to happen, then afterwards, start lookin for a solution.

It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.
Depends on how well you are in terms of discipline yet majority of people would be failing out on doing so specially on gambling field. Only a few could be able to do and wont really be that affected that much
when it comes to gambling possible addiction. It all matters with self control because if you've been playing gambling with the right amount which you can afford to lose and having those kind of treatment
that this is something that talks about on having that fun and not making it as a source of income. Mistakes do usually happens if we do really tolerate things which arent supposed to be done.

Gamblers do usually mess up on the time that they would really be doing bad decisions in regarding on their gambling venture. Once that gambling addiction would hit you up
then it would really be that too damn hard for you to be able to get out, this is why you should really be that careful once you do step your foot into this.
Self contron and discipline is really much needed.

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It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.

As it has been popularly said, prevention is better than cure, if you're gambling, then try as much as possible to make sure that you avoid doing it in an uncontrolled emotional manners, gambling must be made to the best satisfaction of how we needed but not to get addicted along, we also must learn to plan ourselves properly, gamble responsibly and also make the very efforts we could afford in having the best experience with gambling than being addicted.



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December 01, 2023, 07:45:46 PM
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Personal willpower is crucial to resisting gambling. The psychological appeal of gambling must also be considered. We could also promote self-regulation and mindfulness in our culture. Could community support groups or gambling psychology education be helpful? A community that encourages self-awareness and responsible gambling may help us address this issue on a personal and societal level
Agreed. Willpower is what matters the most while support groups do tend to help now and then to a certain extent depending on the members in that particular group based on what I observed.

However, the community that you are expecting exists only in dreams since the reality is that most people don't give a damn about others.

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December 01, 2023, 08:29:21 PM
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It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.

As it has been popularly said, prevention is better than cure, if you're gambling, then try as much as possible to make sure that you avoid doing it in an uncontrolled emotional manners, gambling must be made to the best satisfaction of how we needed but not to get addicted along, we also must learn to plan ourselves properly, gamble responsibly and also make the very efforts we could afford in having the best experience with gambling than being addicted.
Sometimes our curiosity is what gets the best of us and our actions in terms of every other activities we get involved in and this also includes gambling. Gambling responsibly is actually a personal choice and of what is being discussed everyday in most gambling community self discipline and control is what is needed to achieve this. If you are gambler and you fail to meet up with your self discipline then you would probably just end up being an addicted gambler and  many people actually know about their weakness in many things when it comes to self control but curiosity still get the best of them and before you know they get involved and become very lousy at it too.

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December 02, 2023, 08:12:50 PM
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Having guides like qg is going to help them the need that they should have for them to overcome gambling problems that's hard to deal if done alone.
No offense to QuitGambling.com or any other service such as it, I believe gamblers who are highly addicted to gambling will barely be able to leave gambling and get rid of their addiction by merely reading some posts or watching some videos, especially if they are alone as you mentioned already. They might get motivated for a while, turn off their device, or close the gambling platform, but for how long? It can't hold them back forever and they will eventually start gambling again. That's why, for an addicted gambler to stop gambling, they need someone with them who will not let them gamble when they want to, in case they have decided to quit gambling themselves.

You're right because if prohibition could have been the way out to solve every gambling addiction then those that would have first supported this are the governments, because they wouldn't want the people to be that involved in gambling,
I don't see any reason why governments wouldn't want people to get involved with gambling unless gambling is prohibited within the country or the people are gambling with foreign platforms that aren't registered with the authorities in which case they won't be able to take taxes from them.

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December 02, 2023, 08:31:44 PM
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It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.

As it has been popularly said, prevention is better than cure, if you're gambling, then try as much as possible to make sure that you avoid doing it in an uncontrolled emotional manner, gambling must be made to the best satisfaction of how we needed but not to get addicted along, we also must learn to plan ourselves properly, gamble responsibly and also make the very efforts we could afford in having the best experience with gambling than being addicted.
Yes is more easier for a none addicts to avoid addictions and stay addiction-free than an addict trying to pull out of their addictions, this is the most proclaimed and workable tool that gamblers and other substance users must have at the back of their minds.

So for sure, it's better to avoid falling into gambling addiction than try to fight it because most times it is almost impossible to survive gambling addiction since this activity is openly accessible to most.
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December 02, 2023, 10:57:18 PM
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It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.

As it has been popularly said, prevention is better than cure, if you're gambling, then try as much as possible to make sure that you avoid doing it in an uncontrolled emotional manner, gambling must be made to the best satisfaction of how we needed but not to get addicted along, we also must learn to plan ourselves properly, gamble responsibly and also make the very efforts we could afford in having the best experience with gambling than being addicted.
Yes is more easier for a none addicts to avoid addictions and stay addiction-free than an addict trying to pull out of their addictions, this is the most proclaimed and workable tool that gamblers and other substance users must have at the back of their minds.

So for sure, it's better to avoid falling into gambling addiction than try to fight it because most times it is almost impossible to survive gambling addiction since this activity is openly accessible to most.
There's no way on telling if you are already get addicted or not until you would be able to realize that you have losing money too much and this is in fact reality. There are really just that those people who are really that good when it comes to their discipline and control when it comes to their fund handling and there are ones who do really suck at this and this is why they do really end up on such disaster.
You wont really be getting addicted if you are really just that sensible on what you are doing and really having those kind of limits on the time that you do gamble.
You wouldn't really be needing any help or whatsoever but if it happens that you are already that having that kind of problem then self will should be enough
but commonly people do fail at this.

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Yes is more easier for a none addicts to avoid addictions and stay addiction-free than an addict trying to pull out of their addictions, this is the most proclaimed and workable tool that gamblers and other substance users must have at the back of their minds.
I used to say the same thing but I came to realize it doesn't really make much sense.
The reason why I'm saying this is because gamblers can't tell whether they are addicts or no. So saying: "OK, am fine am just enjoying gambling and when I 'm about to become an addict I'll quit gambling" doesn't make sense. Usually, anyone who says something like this is an addict and refuses to admit it. It' s more serious than that, believe me!

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There's no way on telling if you are already get addicted or not until you would be able to realize that you have losing money too much and this is in fact reality. There are really just that those people who are really that good when it comes to their discipline and control when it comes to their fund handling and there are ones who do really suck at this and this is why they do really end up on such disaster.
You wont really be getting addicted if you are really just that sensible on what you are doing and really having those kind of limits on the time that you do gamble.
You wouldn't really be needing any help or whatsoever but if it happens that you are already that having that kind of problem then self will should be enough
but commonly people do fail at this.
Really, i dont totally agree with you on the inability of the addictis to know when their slide into the addictions and from my experience of how addictions manifest and grow is a process that the victim himself build up over time until he gets to a point where he can no longer control the urge and tendency to keep getting my of the addictions.

Just take it as one who usually palyed for just a 3 hours a day, and suddenly he starts going in for longer periond of time let say spending 6 hours at that point, he ahould already know that he is sliding gradually into addictions.

Its good that we are seeing independent efforts to helping gambling addicts overcome their addiction in a professional way.
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December 04, 2023, 08:13:04 AM
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It is much better to prevent getting addicted to gambling, much better than allowing oneself get addicted and then after, start looking for a cure. So, for the hardcore gamblers, it is a good advice for them to from time to time visit sites like this as a way of being precucious of the possiblity of gambling addiction, and also as a prevention.

As it has been popularly said, prevention is better than cure, if you're gambling, then try as much as possible to make sure that you avoid doing it in an uncontrolled emotional manner, gambling must be made to the best satisfaction of how we needed but not to get addicted along, we also must learn to plan ourselves properly, gamble responsibly and also make the very efforts we could afford in having the best experience with gambling than being addicted.
Yes is more easier for a none addicts to avoid addictions and stay addiction-free than an addict trying to pull out of their addictions, this is the most proclaimed and workable tool that gamblers and other substance users must have at the back of their minds.

So for sure, it's better to avoid falling into gambling addiction than try to fight it because most times it is almost impossible to survive gambling addiction since this activity is openly accessible to most.
I share in your view, prevention is better than cure and I've been advising people on this many times. One could prevent gambling addiction completely from the beginning by not just dabbling into gambling but first trying to know the good and bad sides of gambling and how to only work in the line of the good and avoid the bad side of it entirely. Gambling is not easy, still, with the right education, one can know how to gamble, manage their games well and still preserve their psychology. But the dos and don'ts of it must be known before this is possible and they can only be known through the right education about gambling. People often underrate gambling education because gambling itself is informal, but it's very good.

But, unfortunately, there is no school for gamblers, at least I don't know of any except the random advice online. So as an adult, it's important that you learn it by yourself and get to be careful of what is making you go astray. Imagine when you are gambling and losing consistently and do not stop to take a break from it and restrategize, then something must be wrong. Every gambler needs to be sensitive and shun the controlling influence of gambling and be disciplined, and these must be done regardless if the person is new or old in gambling.

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December 04, 2023, 08:24:15 AM
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Unfortunately, the feeling of gambling is what they make addicted, in addition, casinos invest in research and development about how to put more players getting sucked into the game. ~

Do you have any evidence of that? Or do you mean that trying to make your product better is automatically implies making your customers addicted to your product? Then everyone is guilty, every company like Coca-Cola and others. Is that what you mean?

That is the bare minimum for a gambling-related company. See the book Addiction by Design: Machine Gambling in Las Vegas, I haven't finished it yet, but, you get the gist. I mean making players spend more time in the game is within the motive of those companies. The gambling industry itself is a competitive space, who wouldn't make their own casino extract more profit compared to its competitor?

Schüll describes the strategic calculations behind game algorithms and machine ergonomics, casino architecture and “ambience management,” player tracking and cash access systems—all designed to meet the market’s desire for maximum “time on device.”

I know what the author describes is the non-online gambling activities, but, there is no reason most parts also apply with the online one.

The word "better" requires a context, drink or social media companies generate profit from their own buyers and users, mind that social media do try to increase user screen time and sugar is also addictive. That might cause indirect consequences, but that does not close the possibility of the company itself investing in shady practices.

That's what I thought! Thank you for your reply! So, in your opinion all companies are doing everything they can to make people addicted to their product. Well, I agree with you, only in this case the word "addicted" doesn't look so sinister. It just means people want to use your product because they feel it helps them to feel better.

Be careful with the book you are reading. Authors often resort to any and all methods to make their text attractive.

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Its good that we are seeing independent efforts to helping gambling addicts overcome their addiction in a professional way.
Even though sometimes I am not sure that this method can be successful in stopping someone's addiction, at least there are efforts to help gambling addicts to slowly reduce the gambling addiction they feel in their lives, as we know it is difficult to cure gambling addiction, even with professional help it will not work. If it doesn't come from the gambler's heart to stop gambling, it will clearly be very difficult.

I support any independent efforts and other efforts to help gambling addicts because there are more and more gambling addicts who are increasingly out of control when gambling, that's why I also continue to make efforts to remind beginners and prevent them from playing wisely and responsibly, at least I believe self that prevention is better than treating addiction itself.

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December 04, 2023, 03:15:45 PM
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Even though sometimes I am not sure that this method can be successful in stopping someone's addiction, at least there are efforts to help gambling addicts to slowly reduce the gambling addiction they feel in their lives, as we know it is difficult to cure gambling addiction, even with professional help it will not work. If it doesn't come from the gambler's heart to stop gambling, it will clearly be very difficult.

I support any independent efforts and other efforts to help gambling addicts because there are more and more gambling addicts who are increasingly out of control when gambling, that's why I also continue to make efforts to remind beginners and prevent them from playing wisely and responsibly, at least I believe self that prevention is better than treating addiction itself.
Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself on becoming the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.

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Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself to become the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.
The scary fact is that gambling can ruin your life and at that, one needs to be very careful when it comes to gambling and the extent to which it affects our life most importantly affecting us in the most negative ways such in areas that.

1: the ability of gambling to make you become addicted and lead to financial loss and that is why we are always advising our friends and family against taking gambling as a means of making earns needs or trying to get rich fast through gambling.
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December 04, 2023, 04:36:05 PM
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Even though sometimes I am not sure that this method can be successful in stopping someone's addiction, at least there are efforts to help gambling addicts to slowly reduce the gambling addiction they feel in their lives, as we know it is difficult to cure gambling addiction, even with professional help it will not work. If it doesn't come from the gambler's heart to stop gambling, it will clearly be very difficult.

I support any independent efforts and other efforts to help gambling addicts because there are more and more gambling addicts who are increasingly out of control when gambling, that's why I also continue to make efforts to remind beginners and prevent them from playing wisely and responsibly, at least I believe self that prevention is better than treating addiction itself.
Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself on becoming the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.

It’s ironic because the one that saying this words is being paid by a casino for posting such comment.

Gambling in general is not dangerous since it doesn’t force you to play or requires you to deposit huge amount to play. The gambler himself is the one that makes it dangerous due to their greedy. Greediness should be the one to blame since the casino itself doesn’t force to become greedy.

I believe you should warn your friends to not play if they can’t handle greediness because that’s the thing that makes people lose money and not the casino that just offer games.

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The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.

You forget that smoking causes both physical and mental problems. Trying to differentiate physical and mental problem isn't possible because they both work cheek by jowls in running the body system. The brain helps the functionalities of the body and vice versa. An injured person can't think straight forward, due to pains. Same for a mentally disabled person. He can hurt his body and also feel disheartened. None is good for any human or better than the other problem. What is important, is reducing the high rate of mentally disabled people in the society, especially, those caused by gambling. As the number of gamblers increase a lot in the society. In addition, any form of illness officially mandates lots of money, not minding the type of illness. Saying the government should focus more on physically ill people over mentally ill citizens, isn't completely proper. The only abstract thing in both affected corporeality, is that mentally ill person; addicted gambler can stay unnoticed. Hence, making the process of tracing him difficult by the government. Unlike a physically ill person, that must be noticed immediately by everyone around them. Addiction takes time before society realizes the problem of the gamblers. I don't think anything, should be the reason why one side of the party won't be helped by the government. So, if the government use the money generated via gambling to tackle addicts and then tobacco money for affected smokers.  
Well, I don't know in the other Countries , but when it is about what I live it is not so. They can charge all the taxes that they are queir, and yes, they tell you that they will help health, sport, whatever, but they do not, that money is for them, and they are replable to make their face, But at least in this country it is not so, so there are many countries that Prohibit casinos , games of chance for this to prevent addicted people and the Solution is not that , it is not prohibit , it is quite the Opposite, to Leave and that People take their Responsibility , the fact that a country Prohibits games of Chance just for protection is a lie , and then much Less the taxes that a Government can Subtract from a casino is a lie that will use them for the benefit of addicts, in The personal I have always thought that the most legal Countries for these Things are the most prosperous, Switzerland, Nordic Countries , which are Countries  that pay anything in taxes because they have such a high quality of life that they can Do.
Prohibition policies were not useful in any way in reducing the spread of addiction among gamblers, especially since gambling activity can be practiced on any game locally without the need at all for the presence of the state or one of its institutions to regulate. For example, I live in a conservative country whose religion is Islam, which is considered one of the most important sources of legislation. Although the Islamic religion clearly prohibits all gambling activities, the state regulates the sector and benefits fully from its revenues without even bothering to take care of addicts.

Well that's very delicate, I don't know that religion very well, but I know it's something delicate, of course each country has its rules, it's like everything, each one has their own rules, but I consider that players from any country need to have fun, no. There is another, they are normal people who need to do something well and feel differently, that is why I have always said that religion, race, or any type of ethnicity does not matter, what matters in a case is that the person gives themselves to play and have fun healthily without harming others, sometimes the governors dominate their masses because they say they believe they know more than others, because they are a government they know better, that was before, now things don't work like that, things don't work that way. They are very different and can be affected by other types of elements, what the prohibitions cause is that people are very bad-tempered and begin to think that the things they do are wrong, and that is not the case, the prohibitions should not exist under any circumstances. type of criteria, and fewer prohibitions to have fun, I think that is the pinnacle of any government that does it.

If we start from the right that every person has to have fun, all governments would be violating the rights of people who do not allow them to play, harsh, temporary or whatever prohibitions are something that should not even exist, there may be prohibitions of another kind, But it's like telling people from a certain country that they don't have the right, so on what account? These things are not well regarded, I don't approve of something like that, even though my country had that ban, I was one of the people who always played, and through stake.com. freebitco.in did it, they do not control the internet, and thank God that is not the case, because if they do not control each of the things that are done and no, it would be like a mini North Korea , something that does not even have Human rights, So those policies don't apply to me.

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Unfortunately, the feeling of gambling is what they make addicted, in addition, casinos invest in research and development about how to put more players getting sucked into the game. ~

Do you have any evidence of that? Or do you mean that trying to make your product better is automatically implies making your customers addicted to your product? Then everyone is guilty, every company like Coca-Cola and others. Is that what you mean?

That is the bare minimum for a gambling-related company. See the book Addiction by Design: Machine Gambling in Las Vegas, I haven't finished it yet, but, you get the gist. I mean making players spend more time in the game is within the motive of those companies. The gambling industry itself is a competitive space, who wouldn't make their own casino extract more profit compared to its competitor?

Schüll describes the strategic calculations behind game algorithms and machine ergonomics, casino architecture and “ambience management,” player tracking and cash access systems—all designed to meet the market’s desire for maximum “time on device.”

I know what the author describes is the non-online gambling activities, but, there is no reason most parts also apply with the online one.

The word "better" requires a context, drink or social media companies generate profit from their own buyers and users, mind that social media do try to increase user screen time and sugar is also addictive. That might cause indirect consequences, but that does not close the possibility of the company itself investing in shady practices.

That's what I thought! Thank you for your reply! So, in your opinion all companies are doing everything they can to make people addicted to their product. Well, I agree with you, only in this case the word "addicted" doesn't look so sinister. It just means people want to use your product because they feel it helps them to feel better.

There is no reason to prevent for-profit companies from achieving those goals especially increasing user satisfaction, but, the problem is do they use manipulation techniques or shady schemes to achieve that?

If that is true, then the word itself will become sinister. Instead of feeling better, the users are manipulated. This is obviously wrong, and we know there is antitrust toward big technology companies, and the reason is because they practise those things.
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Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself on becoming the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.
It’s ironic because the one that saying this words is being paid by a casino for posting such comment.

Gambling in general is not dangerous since it doesn’t force you to play or requires you to deposit huge amount to play. The gambler himself is the one that makes it dangerous due to their greedy. Greediness should be the one to blame since the casino itself doesn’t force to become greedy.

I believe you should warn your friends to not play if they can’t handle greediness because that’s the thing that makes people lose money and not the casino that just offer games.
Generally, something that can harm you or anyone in any way can be labeled as dangerous even if the harm is triggered by your actions or the actions of someone else, but since it is harming you for your involvement, you can say that it's dangerous because anything can happen at any given time if there is a trigger. Take a gun as an example of this, a gun is generally used for protection from the bad which means that it's not something bad but if you put the trigger while it's pointed towards you or someone else, that's dangerous, for sure.

Therefore, even though you are right that a person who gambles irresponsibly is taking the risk and danger themselves because they are allowing gambling to tear their life apart, I believe gambling itself does have a lot of risks which is the reason why we can call it something dangerous or maybe a dangerous addiction, to be more precise.

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Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself on becoming the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.

It’s ironic because the one that saying this words is being paid by a casino for posting such comment.

Well, at least the person who got involved is not close to him.  He stated that he is still engaging with gambling activity but don't want people who are close to him to get involved in gambling.  There are cases like this where the head of the family is engaging in gambling activities but he forbid his children to gamble.

Gambling in general is not dangerous since it doesn’t force you to play or requires you to deposit huge amount to play. The gambler himself is the one that makes it dangerous due to their greedy. Greediness should be the one to blame since the casino itself doesn’t force to become greedy.

I believe you should warn your friends to not play if they can’t handle greediness because that’s the thing that makes people lose money and not the casino that just offer games.

I highly agree, gambling is not dangerous it becomes dangerous if the person engaging in gambling have poor control of himself and is full of greed.  But to a responsible gambler, gambling is just a pass time while having a chance to win bigger amounts while controlling the time and money spent to gambling activities.

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Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself to become the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.
The scary fact is that gambling can ruin your life and at that, one needs to be very careful when it comes to gambling and the extent to which it affects our life most importantly affecting us in the most negative ways such in areas that.

1: the ability of gambling to make you become addicted and lead to financial loss and that is why we are always advising our friends and family against taking gambling as a means of making earns needs or trying to get rich fast through gambling.
But many people who became interested in gambling have this goal of making money through it. I think if there's no money involved, they will not engage themselves in this activity since they can't gain anything aside from the entertainment of playing different games.

Greed and unable to accept the result are just a few of many reasons on why gamblers are becoming addicted. Well, having someone (even online) to talk to who have the same problem and can relate to what you have been going through is good. It's not much but it has an impact on how to overcome the situation.

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Gambling is dangerous, and I would advise anyone close to me to stay far from it because it's results are not friendly as pressumed. Gambling have dealt with me, I've complain and also worked on myself to become the better version. Gambling and recording streak losses have also become one of the discouraging records for me, though I never stop but keep placing wagering on games for better results. Addiction is the top challenge everyone faces this season but we just have to apply disciplinary measures if we care to survive for long in the system.
The scary fact is that gambling can ruin your life and at that, one needs to be very careful when it comes to gambling and the extent to which it affects our life most importantly affecting us in the most negative ways such in areas that.

1: the ability of gambling to make you become addicted and lead to financial loss and that is why we are always advising our friends and family against taking gambling as a means of making earns needs or trying to get rich fast through gambling.
But many people who became interested in gambling have this goal of making money through it. I think if there's no money involved, they will not engage themselves in this activity since they can't gain anything aside from the entertainment of playing different games.
wrong , I think it will be better if there is no money involved because surely gambling will be more enjoyable and yeah can be addicted.
though there will be no greed involve instead all is for friendly competition but maybe far different approach from what we have now.
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Greed and unable to accept the result are just a few of many reasons on why gamblers are becoming addicted. Well, having someone (even online) to talk to who have the same problem and can relate to what you have been going through is good. It's not much but it has an impact on how to overcome the situation.
well  both addict talking to each other? for sure they will only share their addiction and their gaming and not what they have been doing and that is the sad part.

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And in this sense, gambling can probably even be compared to some extent with a very strict and unforgiving teacher. 
And by the way, many of us probably remember our teachers who were really strict, but also fair.  I even think that any person, becoming an adult, often remembers just such teachers who really taught him something useful in life and taught him well becaase of rigor and fairness. 
I think that gambling can be considered a strict and fair teacher in a broad philosophical sense.
To a great extend, I agree with you, we can as well also compare or liken gambling to life itself, and this because life is a brutal and unforgiving teacher, life is ready to teach a man as many times as he or she needs to learn, and she doesn't care how much you have lost, or how difficult the lesson is, she will continue to you brutally without mercy until you learn.

Same also is gambling, for a gambler who fail to properly learn how to participate in gambling without getting involved in problems, such a gambler will keep encountering problems in gambling until he or she learns to gamble responsibly.
Though it's true, it's unfortunate that a lot of people are so stubborn that they don't stop until they ruin their lives and lose everything because of gambling, or get themselves stuck in a circle of loan repayments because of borrowing a lot of money for their gambling activities. They only realize their mistakes after it's all over for them, and they don't have anywhere to go anymore and that's why they can't continue to gamble as there are no funds for that.

A human being is created with a mind, that gives it the ability to think and understand things, but it ignores everything that comes in front of it only to continue doing what is ruining them slowly. I feel very sad for people who don't learn when they make a mistake for the first time or the first few times.
I would call people who really became serious gamblers a separate group of gambling addicts, but of course people of different races and religions who live, as it were, in their own world, parallel to ours. 
This is a world that combines their presence in games, in these fairy-tale worlds, and periodically they return to our real world, where they have only one major task - to find money somewhere in order to escape again into their world of games and dreams.  These people should be treated with pity, but also with the understanding that they simply live in a different world, slightly different from ours, and that in their own way they can even be happy in this world of theirs.  For example, when such an addicted gambling addict wins big.  But of course, I think, if possible, we need to help them return to our world, where many of them are loved by other people and these people are looking forward to their return with impatience and hope. 

This is all a bit of philosophical reasoning, but it seems to me that it is fair.

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Starting from the fact that things with the prohibitions do not fit with me, at least with me, I am completely, I also agree when there are all kinds of prohibitions, because the priohibitions are not something correct, it is what they make us see as what We are sorry for something that we did not even do, those who do or commit mistakes are not of interest to them and furthermore those prohibitions do not apply to them either, so as a measure of this, I will never be in favor of prohibitions either for countries or for people who have to to do with casinos, because a casino is a means of entertainment, it is like a service for adults, and I say adults because it has to do with money and the deinrio is what is most taken care of in these cases, I personally would think that a People who like to ban many countries from their casinos are stopping making money, aren't they thinking like business people, are certain licenses safe? Perhaps, sometimes these licenses do not allow good management within a casino.

Casinos are places to have fun, so as not to rule out making some money, it is the norm to make money but you can also lose a lot of money, that is why every time you enter a casino you must have complete responsibility, very good money management and know that when things are tried to be done better, they have to happen, problem gamblers exist everywhere, in developed countries, allowed everywhere, governments believe that they are sometimes protecting people by prohibiting caisno, and casinos by government orders prohibit people from certain countries, what sense does this make? In fiat money casinos I'm not saying anything, they have total control, but in crypto casinos? This should not be allowed, I have always said that the use of Monero should be allowed, ignoring the things that governments can say about it, a government is its government and a particular economy is the particular economy.

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This thread is getting a lot of support and discussions is ongoing at least OP should give us an update on how things are going I remember you sent me a message about linking up with casinos so how is it are you successful linking up and are you getting positive response from the casinos that you asked to link up, Bitcointalk community is all out in support of your cause.
I hope you get all the support from the majority of the casinos so you can support those who require help with gambling addiction, keep us updated for any developments.

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December 06, 2023, 03:01:07 PM
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This thread is getting a lot of support and discussions is ongoing at least OP should give us an update on how things are going I remember you sent me a message about linking up with casinos so how is it are you successful linking up and are you getting positive response from the casinos that you asked to link up, Bitcointalk community is all out in support of your cause.
I hope you get all the support from the majority of the casinos so you can support those who require help with gambling addiction, keep us updated for any developments.
The ops was last active on the 5th of December but the last comment on this thread from the ops was on the 15th-11 which is a long time ago and for sure with the space in time,  a lot has been discussed on this thread and for such will require some answers, anyways maybe op is taking his time to put out the reply to some of the comments and at such will not want to rush things since the thread already reserved positive responses from members of the forum since its creation as the service borders around what concerned many of us here as gamblers.
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December 06, 2023, 04:05:22 PM
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This thread is getting a lot of support and discussions is ongoing at least OP should give us an update on how things are going I remember you sent me a message about linking up with casinos so how is it are you successful linking up and are you getting positive response from the casinos that you asked to link up, Bitcointalk community is all out in support of your cause.
I hope you get all the support from the majority of the casinos so you can support those who require help with gambling addiction, keep us updated for any developments.
The ops was last active on the 5th of December but the last comment on this thread from the ops was on the 15th-11 which is a long time ago and for sure with the space in time,  a lot has been discussed on this thread and for such will require some answers, anyways maybe op is taking his time to put out the reply to some of the comments and at such will not want to rush things since the thread already reserved positive responses from members of the forum since its creation as the service borders around what concerned many of us here as gamblers.

Since the thread is already getting more tractions and attention, we can continue with the discussions and also try to reach out to him through PM which i believe that he will get the alert on his mail address to notify him of an incoming message from the forum, if this is truly going to be as the same way it was aimed or targeted by OP, some gamblers will truly have a means of getting helped through various offers in the way they were being challenged while gambling.



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December 06, 2023, 06:07:36 PM
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This thread is getting a lot of support and discussions is ongoing at least OP should give us an update on how things are going I remember you sent me a message about linking up with casinos so how is it are you successful linking up and are you getting positive response from the casinos that you asked to link up, Bitcointalk community is all out in support of your cause.
I hope you get all the support from the majority of the casinos so you can support those who require help with gambling addiction, keep us updated for any developments.

It's been a lot of discussions in the thread. Not so many questions for me lately.
We haven't heard anything from any casinos about collaborations. If any casino is interested, don't hesitate to send me a message. By adding information on responsible gambling pages, you can help people find help if they struggle with gambling problems.

Since the thread started, QuitGamble.com has launched in Portuguese and French. Hopefully, we can add more content on the Spanish site soon as well. Tomorrow, our platform will reach 5000 members. Something we looked forward to for a long time.
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December 06, 2023, 06:23:42 PM
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This thread is getting a lot of support and discussions is ongoing at least OP should give us an update on how things are going I remember you sent me a message about linking up with casinos so how is it are you successful linking up and are you getting positive response from the casinos that you asked to link up, Bitcointalk community is all out in support of your cause.
I hope you get all the support from the majority of the casinos so you can support those who require help with gambling addiction, keep us updated for any developments.

It's been a lot of discussions in the thread. Not so many questions for me lately.
We haven't heard anything from any casinos about collaborations. If any casino is interested, don't hesitate to send me a message. By adding information on responsible gambling pages, you can help people find help if they struggle with gambling problems.

Since the thread started, QuitGamble.com has launched in Portuguese and French. Hopefully, we can add more content on the Spanish site soon as well. Tomorrow, our platform will reach 5000 members. Something we looked forward to for a long time.
Wow, 5000 members? That really alot buddy, a big congratulations on that achievement, this clearly shows that you are doing something really good, I personally did not believe that by now, the site would have grown to such extent, really amazing indeed.

And concerning site collaborations, I honestly do not know how things work really, but I was hoping that you be the one to reach out to the casinos for possible collaboration, and if they want such collaboration, they did approve or disapprove if they don't want.

And besides, do you really need casino's collaboration? Except you will be getting funding from the casinos, I think what you need is marketing.

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December 06, 2023, 06:41:42 PM
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Personal willpower is crucial to resisting gambling. The psychological appeal of gambling must also be considered. We could also promote self-regulation and mindfulness in our culture. Could community support groups or gambling psychology education be helpful? A community that encourages self-awareness and responsible gambling may help us address this issue on a personal and societal level
Exactly what social groups are to be for, if not to support individuals and even to expand the help outside to none members, it's not just about helping each other to raise financial help when one member is in need. I have seen a social group that comes out to educate people about a particular issue that is affecting the youth of that community, which were drug abuse, alcoholism, and gambling addictions.
 
They were going about educating people with a few flyers on how they could be able to stop whatever they were addicted to, and it was really a helpful orientation. I notice that day passed through them to the audience, which gave them a listening ear, so their age groups are like that, and if society can have more of that, it will really help some young gamblers who don't know their way around. We know information is all over the internet, but there are still people who pay attention to old-school ways.

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December 06, 2023, 06:46:51 PM
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This thread is getting a lot of support and discussions is ongoing at least OP should give us an update on how things are going I remember you sent me a message about linking up with casinos so how is it are you successful linking up and are you getting positive response from the casinos that you asked to link up, Bitcointalk community is all out in support of your cause.
I hope you get all the support from the majority of the casinos so you can support those who require help with gambling addiction, keep us updated for any developments.

It's been a lot of discussions in the thread. Not so many questions for me lately.
We haven't heard anything from any casinos about collaborations. If any casino is interested, don't hesitate to send me a message. By adding information on responsible gambling pages, you can help people find help if they struggle with gambling problems.
this will be one of the best initiative if some gambling sites will collaborate in your worth a try
initiative and to show how they are really concern about their players and not only about their money, the business
must show interest in helping those cannot handle gambling properly meaning those irresponsible gamblers that needs help.
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Since the thread started, QuitGamble.com has launched in Portuguese and French. Hopefully, we can add more content on the Spanish site soon as well. Tomorrow, our platform will reach 5000 members. Something we looked forward to for a long time.
Having 500 members will shortly come , but have you not planning to extend your launching in Asian countries?
I think there is also a need in those sections .

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December 06, 2023, 09:17:44 PM
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And in this sense, gambling can probably even be compared to some extent with a very strict and unforgiving teacher. 
And by the way, many of us probably remember our teachers who were really strict, but also fair.  I even think that any person, becoming an adult, often remembers just such teachers who really taught him something useful in life and taught him well becaase of rigor and fairness. 
I think that gambling can be considered a strict and fair teacher in a broad philosophical sense.
To a great extend, I agree with you, we can as well also compare or liken gambling to life itself, and this because life is a brutal and unforgiving teacher, life is ready to teach a man as many times as he or she needs to learn, and she doesn't care how much you have lost, or how difficult the lesson is, she will continue to you brutally without mercy until you learn.

Same also is gambling, for a gambler who fail to properly learn how to participate in gambling without getting involved in problems, such a gambler will keep encountering problems in gambling until he or she learns to gamble responsibly.
Though it's true, it's unfortunate that a lot of people are so stubborn that they don't stop until they ruin their lives and lose everything because of gambling, or get themselves stuck in a circle of loan repayments because of borrowing a lot of money for their gambling activities. They only realize their mistakes after it's all over for them, and they don't have anywhere to go anymore and that's why they can't continue to gamble as there are no funds for that.

A human being is created with a mind, that gives it the ability to think and understand things, but it ignores everything that comes in front of it only to continue doing what is ruining them slowly. I feel very sad for people who don't learn when they make a mistake for the first time or the first few times.
I would call people who really became serious gamblers a separate group of gambling addicts, but of course people of different races and religions who live, as it were, in their own world, parallel to ours. 
This is a world that combines their presence in games, in these fairy-tale worlds, and periodically they return to our real world, where they have only one major task - to find money somewhere in order to escape again into their world of games and dreams.  These people should be treated with pity, but also with the understanding that they simply live in a different world, slightly different from ours, and that in their own way they can even be happy in this world of theirs.  For example, when such an addicted gambling addict wins big.  But of course, I think, if possible, we need to help them return to our world, where many of them are loved by other people and these people are looking forward to their return with impatience and hope. 

This is all a bit of philosophical reasoning, but it seems to me that it is fair.
On the time that you do already find yourself to be delusional because of the things that you are already imagining and cant really be possibly to happen then its a solid indicative sign that you are alread addicted to it.
People would really be make those kind of realizations on the time that they would really be experiencing some difficult situations or scenarios. Each person does have their own reasons on why they are really  that trying to think on things which cant really be that possible and trying out to fight on what they do believe or something that they do have in mind.

In speaking about quitting or getting rid of it, then we would really be having some couple of services and professional seek of help when it comes to this manner and of course
those things wont come cheap specially in speaking about treatment on addiction. Quitting is really the main problem for most people specially to those who are addicted into it.
HAving these kind of platforms or services which are basically for free just to help out to those addicted out there, then this is something that really appreciated.

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December 06, 2023, 09:53:46 PM
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Personal willpower is crucial to resisting gambling. The psychological appeal of gambling must also be considered. We could also promote self-regulation and mindfulness in our culture. Could community support groups or gambling psychology education be helpful? A community that encourages self-awareness and responsible gambling may help us address this issue on a personal and societal level
Personal willpower alone will not stop gambling. You need support from therapists, or support groups as it will help in developing accountability and addressing underlying issues. Will power alone will only give a brief solution to gambling. I know that gambling websites have a portion where write about getting help with gambling addiction. They are very helpful can connect gambling addicts to communities and the help resources they need.

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December 06, 2023, 11:38:38 PM
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Personal willpower is crucial to resisting gambling. The psychological appeal of gambling must also be considered. We could also promote self-regulation and mindfulness in our culture. Could community support groups or gambling psychology education be helpful? A community that encourages self-awareness and responsible gambling may help us address this issue on a personal and societal level
Personal willpower alone will not stop gambling. You need support from therapists, or support groups as it will help in developing accountability and addressing underlying issues. Will power alone will only give a brief solution to gambling. I know that gambling websites have a portion where write about getting help with gambling addiction. They are very helpful can connect gambling addicts to communities and the help resources they need.

The thing is that to get out of any problem things can be very different, because basically when it comes to things like doing more for us it is Necessary , what does it mean ? that if Something is harming us then we have to resist, that is what we must see, Otherwise we could be doing the right things, but if we are falling into the same mistakes, something that Characterizes us as humans because I don't know, It is not the first time that something like this has been done, but there are people who know that they are harming themselves and they are Still there, sometimes I have seen people who fall into addiction but it is not because they make money , or Because they want to make money, but because they feel that they can do it better, it is something like beating the casino and that is something that is not in the normal Parameters, there are people who are like that, of course the monetary factor is that which should be the most Essential , I can say that things in a caisn can be like this and what Each person can do or Generate.

In this case , when we are playing, the Addiction is something that we Should not eliminate and not generate it, that is, when we do not have control over what we play, over what we are willing to lose, it is somewhat difficult, if there is someone who They go to the casinos and play, and they already have their way of playing and they see that there are new rules to avoid falling into Addiction , many times they do not accept them, because they say that their system is the best, and clearly things can be affected when they are does any type of thing that is of a Spending nature , if we see that more management of things can be done in a casino I Recommend that, and when you Win , withdraw , the other error that is generated in a player in the casinos, What is very common is that he does not retreat When he has to retire, a Problematic player can take first place if there are internal Problems within the player, Obviously he will take them to the environment.

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December 07, 2023, 09:18:23 AM
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I would call people who really became serious gamblers a separate group of gambling addicts, but of course people of different races and religions who live, as it were, in their own world, parallel to ours. 
This is a world that combines their presence in games, in these fairy-tale worlds, and periodically they return to our real world, where they have only one major task - to find money somewhere in order to escape again into their world of games and dreams.  These people should be treated with pity, but also with the understanding that they simply live in a different world, slightly different from ours, and that in their own way they can even be happy in this world of theirs.  For example, when such an addicted gambling addict wins big.  But of course, I think, if possible, we need to help them return to our world, where many of them are loved by other people and these people are looking forward to their return with impatience and hope. 

This is all a bit of philosophical reasoning, but it seems to me that it is fair.
On the time that you do already find yourself to be delusional because of the things that you are already imagining and cant really be possibly to happen then its a solid indicative sign that you are alread addicted to it.
People would really be make those kind of realizations on the time that they would really be experiencing some difficult situations or scenarios. Each person does have their own reasons on why they are really  that trying to think on things which cant really be that possible and trying out to fight on what they do believe or something that they do have in mind.

In speaking about quitting or getting rid of it, then we would really be having some couple of services and professional seek of help when it comes to this manner and of course
those things wont come cheap specially in speaking about treatment on addiction. Quitting is really the main problem for most people specially to those who are addicted into it.
HAving these kind of platforms or services which are basically for free just to help out to those addicted out there, then this is something that really appreciated.
I'm talking about something a little different. 
We are talking about the self-awareness of those players whom their environment clearly and almost accurately considers addicted gamblers at the stage of the disease.  And it is clear that such a person’s passion for gambling has become an addiction.  This self-awareness of such a player seems to force him to constantly immerse himself in his world of dreams and fantasies, a little different from our world, the world of gambling.  However, these will not necessarily be some fantastic games like GTA.  This could even be a game of poker, for example.  It’s just that life in such a world forces the player to act in accordance with the laws and rules of such a world.  So he, returning to our world, simply steals money and heads back to his game world.  It’s great if such a person strives to return to our world, this is the first step on the path to recovery.  But many of the addicted players are happy in their game world and they do not want to return to our world.  This is of course a disaster for all their relatives.  But the gambler doesn’t think about this at all.  In this case, only compulsory treatment can return him to our world. 

This is roughly how I imagine this whole process with addicted gamblers.

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December 07, 2023, 12:11:46 PM
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This thread is getting a lot of support and discussions is ongoing at least OP should give us an update on how things are going I remember you sent me a message about linking up with casinos so how is it are you successful linking up and are you getting positive response from the casinos that you asked to link up, Bitcointalk community is all out in support of your cause.
I hope you get all the support from the majority of the casinos so you can support those who require help with gambling addiction, keep us updated for any developments.
The ops was last active on the 5th of December but the last comment on this thread from the ops was on the 15th-11 which is a long time ago and for sure with the space in time,  a lot has been discussed on this thread and for such will require some answers, anyways maybe op is taking his time to put out the reply to some of the comments and at such will not want to rush things since the thread already reserved positive responses from members of the forum since its creation as the service borders around what concerned many of us here as gamblers.

Since the thread is already getting more tractions and attention, we can continue with the discussions and also try to reach out to him through PM which i believe that he will get the alert on his mail address to notify him of an incoming message from the forum, if this is truly going to be as the same way it was aimed or targeted by OP, some gamblers will truly have a means of getting helped through various offers in the way they were being challenged while gambling.
because OP sees nothing to talk about as he have already addressed all the important details while most of the recent post are already tackled and generic posts that He believes there is nothing to answer.
OP's dedication has been proven as he runs the project on his own from his own pocket so I think we cannot question His motive here.
but for the sake of arguments, just after you post this? OP replies and shows that he is active here and checking each post if needed to answer or to deny.
and one thing is very certain here? that we are all being asked if we are willing to help Him spread this project .









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December 07, 2023, 12:57:47 PM
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Personal willpower is crucial to resisting gambling. The psychological appeal of gambling must also be considered. We could also promote self-regulation and mindfulness in our culture. Could community support groups or gambling psychology education be helpful? A community that encourages self-awareness and responsible gambling may help us address this issue on a personal and societal level
Personal willpower alone will not stop gambling. You need support from therapists, or support groups as it will help in developing accountability and addressing underlying issues. Will power alone will only give a brief solution to gambling. I know that gambling websites have a portion where write about getting help with gambling addiction. They are very helpful can connect gambling addicts to communities and the help resources they need.

I will have to disagree with you to some extent, not completely. Will power can definitely heal one off gambling addiction, but it all depends on the level the addiction have gotten to, you would agree with me that addiction are of different stages, and for the gambler who have gotten to a very deep level of addiction in gambling, I agree that, will power alone can not bring the gambler out of that addiction, the gambler will have to seek external help, like the one being offered by quitgamble.com.
But for the gambler who is still in their shallow surface of gambling addiction, such gambler can easily quit and come out from such addiction if he or she so want, and apply will power required to stop.

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December 07, 2023, 01:12:56 PM
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Personal willpower is crucial to resisting gambling. The psychological appeal of gambling must also be considered. We could also promote self-regulation and mindfulness in our culture. Could community support groups or gambling psychology education be helpful? A community that encourages self-awareness and responsible gambling may help us address this issue on a personal and societal level
Personal willpower alone will not stop gambling. You need support from therapists, or support groups as it will help in developing accountability and addressing underlying issues. Will power alone will only give a brief solution to gambling. I know that gambling websites have a portion where write about getting help with gambling addiction. They are very helpful can connect gambling addicts to communities and the help resources they need.

actually not just support groups but for me? specifically FAMILY Members is what will help
us make it through , Have watched a cousin that turns into addicted gambler that he tried to commit suicide
because of addiction , made some therapy but does not brings Him complete saving from gambling but when
His family Interfere (including me of course) yeah he changed and now a addiction free.

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December 07, 2023, 02:34:44 PM
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Personal willpower is crucial to resisting gambling. The psychological appeal of gambling must also be considered. We could also promote self-regulation and mindfulness in our culture. Could community support groups or gambling psychology education be helpful? A community that encourages self-awareness and responsible gambling may help us address this issue on a personal and societal level
Personal willpower alone will not stop gambling. You need support from therapists, or support groups as it will help in developing accountability and addressing underlying issues. Will power alone will only give a brief solution to gambling. I know that gambling websites have a portion where write about getting help with gambling addiction. They are very helpful can connect gambling addicts to communities and the help resources they need.

I will have to disagree with you to some extent, not completely. Will power can definitely heal one off gambling addiction, but it all depends on the level the addiction have gotten to, you would agree with me that addiction are of different stages, and for the gambler who have gotten to a very deep level of addiction in gambling, I agree that, will power alone can not bring the gambler out of that addiction, the gambler will have to seek external help, like the one being offered by quitgamble.com.
But for the gambler who is still in their shallow surface of gambling addiction, such gambler can easily quit and come out from such addiction if he or she so want, and apply will power required to stop.
You all in the right in what you have all said. You know, for an addictive gambler to start responding to external supports system he/she must first recognize that what they are doing is wrong and harmful to his/herself and to bear it in mind that whatever measures external bodies are building towards him is for his own good interest.

So first it's the personal will power that count for an addictive gambler before the support from specialist or family and friends come through to compliment it all. It is extremely difficult to give support system to an addictive gambler who sees nothing wrong with his compulsive gambling habit.

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December 08, 2023, 04:14:34 AM
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Personal willpower is crucial to resisting gambling. The psychological appeal of gambling must also be considered. We could also promote self-regulation and mindfulness in our culture. Could community support groups or gambling psychology education be helpful? A community that encourages self-awareness and responsible gambling may help us address this issue on a personal and societal level
Personal willpower alone will not stop gambling. You need support from therapists, or support groups as it will help in developing accountability and addressing underlying issues. Will power alone will only give a brief solution to gambling. I know that gambling websites have a portion where write about getting help with gambling addiction. They are very helpful can connect gambling addicts to communities and the help resources they need.

You can't underestimate the power of Willpower, maybe it's something else you are referring to but if it is true Willpower, then it's enough to set any addicts free without any therapists, psychiatrists or other similar experts. This is what is helping me at all times and I experienced it at the time when I was addicted many years ago. The thing is that I have a very strong mind, and that is the spirit, and if you can have that Willpower to say "No" to it and you are determined for even just a few days, that might be how you might have gotten healed forever. Except that people remain in their condition and believe they must see experts simply because they do not have the Will to say enough is enough.

But the truth is that Willpower is in categories, and to some, it's very weak, to some moderate, to others strong. This is why you can't judge Willpower entirely because it might be weak in some people and when it's weak, we can't still call it Willpower but Weakwill as the mind of the person would still be dragged by both addiction to gambling and the Willpower, and eventually the gambling might still win. But if someone has that strong Willpower and uses it to fight gambling, such a person doesn't need anyone else as it's a personal determination and will not return to his vomit any longer.

Addiction could be tough but the solution is little as long as the person is really Willing to set himself free.

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December 08, 2023, 04:52:30 AM
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This thread is getting a lot of support and discussions is ongoing at least OP should give us an update on how things are going I remember you sent me a message about linking up with casinos so how is it are you successful linking up and are you getting positive response from the casinos that you asked to link up, Bitcointalk community is all out in support of your cause.
I hope you get all the support from the majority of the casinos so you can support those who require help with gambling addiction, keep us updated for any developments.

It's been a lot of discussions in the thread. Not so many questions for me lately.
We haven't heard anything from any casinos about collaborations. If any casino is interested, don't hesitate to send me a message. By adding information on responsible gambling pages, you can help people find help if they struggle with gambling problems.

Since the thread started, QuitGamble.com has launched in Portuguese and French. Hopefully, we can add more content on the Spanish site soon as well. Tomorrow, our platform will reach 5000 members. Something we looked forward to for a long time.
for  sure that there will be other groups that may cooperate and coordinate to your team but Casino houses? I'm afraid that they will ever have any  interest in doing such because Addiction is their target, addiction is their weapon, addiction is what made them rich and will make them more richer.

I did not say that to attach casinos but I am telling what for me  is real , because each gambling addict is their milking cow and who's farmer that will let their cow's gone?

But looking for your adding content not just spanish sites but also in other part of the world, and also advance congratulations for your 5000 membership .









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December 08, 2023, 01:13:40 PM
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This thread is getting a lot of support and discussions is ongoing at least OP should give us an update on how things are going I remember you sent me a message about linking up with casinos so how is it are you successful linking up and are you getting positive response from the casinos that you asked to link up, Bitcointalk community is all out in support of your cause.
I hope you get all the support from the majority of the casinos so you can support those who require help with gambling addiction, keep us updated for any developments.

It's been a lot of discussions in the thread. Not so many questions for me lately.
We haven't heard anything from any casinos about collaborations. If any casino is interested, don't hesitate to send me a message. By adding information on responsible gambling pages, you can help people find help if they struggle with gambling problems.

Since the thread started, QuitGamble.com has launched in Portuguese and French. Hopefully, we can add more content on the Spanish site soon as well. Tomorrow, our platform will reach 5000 members. Something we looked forward to for a long time.
for  sure that there will be other groups that may cooperate and coordinate to your team but Casino houses? I'm afraid that they will ever have any  interest in doing such because Addiction is their target, addiction is their weapon, addiction is what made them rich and will make them more richer.

I did not say that to attach casinos but I am telling what for me  is real , because each gambling addict is their milking cow and who's farmer that will let their cow's gone?



Yeah that's the reason we can't expect to much on them especially on having a partnership on some certain group that tackle up gambling addiction and help those people affected. They create this business for them to earn a profit and not for doing any charity work for any organization or certain individual. So its really up for the person or people around him on how they can aid up this addiction since this is really a serious matter for a person.

But I guess there are separate groups can help people who's suffering gambling addiction so maybe the person affect could present theirself to seek for help and get aid also for people in this forum maybe they could try the service offered on the site mention then see if there's changes happened of we can get a help from these people regarding on what we are or those gamblng addict  facing.

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December 08, 2023, 03:31:35 PM
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for  sure that there will be other groups that may cooperate and coordinate to your team but Casino houses? I'm afraid that they will ever have any  interest in doing such because Addiction is their target, addiction is their weapon, addiction is what made them rich and will make them more richer.

I did not say that to attach casinos but I am telling what for me  is real , because each gambling addict is their milking cow and who's farmer that will let their cow's gone?



Yeah that's the reason we can't expect to much on them especially on having a partnership on some certain group that tackle up gambling addiction and help those people affected. They create this business for them to earn a profit and not for doing any charity work for any organization or certain individual. So its really up for the person or people around him on how they can aid up this addiction since this is really a serious matter for a person.

But I guess there are separate groups can help people who's suffering gambling addiction so maybe the person affect could present theirself to seek for help and get aid also for people in this forum maybe they could try the service offered on the site mention then see if there's changes happened of we can get a help from these people regarding on what we are or those gamblng addict  facing.
It is a personal funded project and I think it will be hard for them to stay for long even if they are keeping their cost low. According to their website, their primary income is to sell backlinks to their customers which is I think a result a having partnerships with casinos and other organization. The intention of this casino is good but it would be lucky for them if a big casino intends to make a partnership with them which still haven't realized yet.

If this is primary a business, I don't think that this will make the owner rich but if this is somehow a charity that primary wants to help gamblers to quit or rehabilitate them, I think they would last long if they somehow get support from their target clients.
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and also with their sincerity then success will come to this project and also for others that will be Open minded that gambling is not just as simple as they think and Gamblers should not be blamed completely because no one wanted to be addicted and the obligation here is to help them out and theres no need of blaming as this is really a serious problem as the world facing addiction problem.a friend of mine also faced this problem but lucky that he is now sober and yeah a gambling free human.
That too, sincere help is better than a forced one because you know that the person cares about you. Open mindedness is a mindset that needs to be learned early on in life because being open minded is difficult when you're an adult with an established belief. The victim blaming part is a difficult one because when you listen to the argument of these people that do this, they always sound so logical and reasonable but the problem is that victim blaming invalidates their horrific experience into a lesson that will soon be forgotten after listening to it, I hope that more and more people learn not to do that kind of thing against people that are a victim of addiction and many other horrifying experiences out there. Good for your friend to be able to stop gambling and live a life free of that vice.



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If that is true, then the word itself will become sinister. Instead of feeling better, the users are manipulated. This is obviously wrong, and we know there is antitrust toward big technology companies, and the reason is because they practise those things.

The thing is that every company, from a major one to a tiny food stall, all of them are trying to "manipulate" people so that they were buying their products. And those who are telling you about "manipulation techniques or shady schemes" are doing that too. They just want you to consume their product, information in that case. And it's natural, there's nothing wrong with that. You just can choose not listening to them, including the promotion from casinos. It's your choice.

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December 11, 2023, 12:50:57 PM
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That too, sincere help is better than a forced one because you know that the person cares about you. Open mindedness is a mindset that needs to be learned early on in life because being open minded is difficult when you're an adult with an established belief. The victim blaming part is a difficult one because when you listen to the argument of these people that do this, they always sound so logical and reasonable but the problem is that victim blaming invalidates their horrific experience into a lesson that will soon be forgotten after listening to it, I hope that more and more people learn not to do that kind of thing against people that are a victim of addiction and many other horrifying experiences out there. Good for your friend to be able to stop gambling and live a life free of that vice.
Listen closely and follow solid counsel for the purpose to avoid going down an erroneous path. Gambling cannot be stopped because it is a daily practice for most gamblers; therefore, if you tell an addicted gambler to stop gambling, do you wish to kill him or her? They're addicted and can't stop, and even if they want to, it will never be relatively easy for them. What I know is that gambling can be regulated and reduced momentarily, but it cannot be stopped forever. I know a lot of folks whose lives have been wrecked by gambling. Most gamblers have become addicted to gambling and will continue to practice using all last cards to place wagers on.

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December 11, 2023, 01:52:40 PM
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That too, sincere help is better than a forced one because you know that the person cares about you. Open mindedness is a mindset that needs to be learned early on in life because being open minded is difficult when you're an adult with an established belief. The victim blaming part is a difficult one because when you listen to the argument of these people that do this, they always sound so logical and reasonable but the problem is that victim blaming invalidates their horrific experience into a lesson that will soon be forgotten after listening to it, I hope that more and more people learn not to do that kind of thing against people that are a victim of addiction and many other horrifying experiences out there. Good for your friend to be able to stop gambling and live a life free of that vice.
Listen closely and follow solid counsel for the purpose to avoid going down an erroneous path. Gambling cannot be stopped because it is a daily practice for most gamblers; therefore, if you tell an addicted gambler to stop gambling, do you wish to kill him or her? They're addicted and can't stop, and even if they want to, it will never be relatively easy for them. What I know is that gambling can be regulated and reduced momentarily, but it cannot be stopped forever. I know a lot of folks whose lives have been wrecked by gambling. Most gamblers have become addicted to gambling and will continue to practice using all last cards to place wagers on.
You have spoken well, gambling is from way back, it's probably older than any of us that are currently living, and this is an activity that will live on even far after we, and our children, and our children's children have gone, we did not invent gambling, very few know the origin of gambling, and as such, gambling can not be stopped, it can only be regulated.

It is true that gambling have become modernized, technology have affected and changed almost everything, trying to stop gambling right now will only push people into the older ways gambling was practiced before the internet came into existence.

And also worthy of note is that, every activity in life have their pros and cons, their advantages and disadvantage, gambling in itself is not a bad thing to do, abuse is what lead many people into becoming gambling addicts, those who respect the rules of gambling always enjoy and have fun doing it.

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And also worthy of note is that, every activity in life have their pros and cons, their advantages and disadvantage, gambling in itself is not a bad thing to do, abuse is what lead many people into becoming gambling addicts, those who respect the rules of gambling always enjoy and have fun doing it.
Apart from the abuse of playing excessively, it can also cause people to become gambling addicts, we all know that anything excessive will not have a good impact, especially if it is misused, everyone has different goals in gambling, some are looking for fun, some are looking for money, but for those who are looking for Their enjoyment will not be playing excessively and it is easy to control themselves when gambling.

But it's different for gamblers who are looking for money, usually they will play excessively and abuse the actual rules of the game, where when they lose they should stop to prevent losing more but there are still many who can't control their emotions when gambling where people always aim to make money in gambling. will end up addicted to gambling.

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December 11, 2023, 03:17:04 PM
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And also worthy of note is that, every activity in life have their pros and cons, their advantages and disadvantage, gambling in itself is not a bad thing to do, abuse is what lead many people into becoming gambling addicts, those who respect the rules of gambling always enjoy and have fun doing it.
Apart from the abuse of playing excessively, it can also cause people to become gambling addicts, we all know that anything excessive will not have a good impact, especially if it is misused, everyone has different goals in gambling, some are looking for fun, some are looking for money, but for those who are looking for Their enjoyment will not be playing excessively and it is easy to control themselves when gambling.

But it's different for gamblers who are looking for money, usually they will play excessively and abuse the actual rules of the game, where when they lose they should stop to prevent losing more but there are still many who can't control their emotions when gambling where people always aim to make money in gambling. will end up addicted to gambling.
Everything which is excessive is never been good and this is something that you should really be that careful on what are the things and decisions that you would really be taking because one false move then you would really be compromising something important and this is something that you should really be having in mind always. Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself that responsible on the actions that you are making.
Dont treat it as some sort of income maker or having that kind of profits on which it cant really be that possible or something ideal to be treated up that way. There would be no problems that would come into your life
if you do really just simply make yourself that sensible or responsible towards your actions.

For those people who individuals or groups on whose making or taking up some action on helping someone to get rid of addiction then it is really just that a good gesture but in the end of the day
on which people are  the ones who would really be making out such decision for themselves because we are the ones who do make out such decision and see on whats good and whats bad.
This is why it would be always right that we should be doing on what are the things that would be good for us and not something that could put us up on harm.

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December 11, 2023, 05:47:01 PM
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for  sure that there will be other groups that may cooperate and coordinate to your team but Casino houses? I'm afraid that they will ever have any  interest in doing such because Addiction is their target, addiction is their weapon,
Maybe not all of them are interested and there could be a handful of them that want to give back to their customers by having such a theme. But it's true that not all of the casinos are going to cooperate with a service and work that will make people stop doing business with their casinos. They want people to engage on them because the more, the better and that means caching caching on them, more money.

addiction is what made them rich and will make them more richer.
Well, the irony is that many of them donate just to give back and for the good cause of other people's welfare. On the other hand, what you have said is true that they're becoming rich because of people the money that comes from their gambling business, and that happens when gamblers are losing.

There goes the cycle of who gets the benefit and who contributes a lot. But a good thing that if there are helps like this, they should be easily searched and taken away for a dial or chat because usually, addicted gamblers need someone to talk to instantly to help him change his mind if ever something bad is already circulating onto his head.

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December 11, 2023, 09:23:26 PM
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And also worthy of note is that, every activity in life have their pros and cons, their advantages and disadvantage, gambling in itself is not a bad thing to do, abuse is what lead many people into becoming gambling addicts, those who respect the rules of gambling always enjoy and have fun doing it.
Apart from the abuse of playing excessively, it can also cause people to become gambling addicts, we all know that anything excessive will not have a good impact, especially if it is misused, everyone has different goals in gambling, some are looking for fun, some are looking for money, but for those who are looking for Their enjoyment will not be playing excessively and it is easy to control themselves when gambling.

But it's different for gamblers who are looking for money, usually they will play excessively and abuse the actual rules of the game, where when they lose they should stop to prevent losing more but there are still many who can't control their emotions when gambling where people always aim to make money in gambling. will end up addicted to gambling.

Too much of everything is bad, if we are a true gambler then we should try as much as possible to see that we help the upcoming gamblers to stay responsible and never get addicted because they needed direction at first, the we shouldn't be the ones to lay down bad example on them to make them learn what is not called for from us through how we are gambling, we must help in solving the problem and not contributing to it.



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December 11, 2023, 10:56:13 PM
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for  sure that there will be other groups that may cooperate and coordinate to your team but Casino houses? I'm afraid that they will ever have any  interest in doing such because Addiction is their target, addiction is their weapon,
Maybe not all of them are interested and there could be a handful of them that want to give back to their customers by having such a theme. But it's true that not all of the casinos are going to cooperate with a service and work that will make people stop doing business with their casinos. They want people to engage on them because the more, the better and that means caching caching on them, more money.

Unless there is a command or law imposed by the regulatory board or authority, many casinos will not cooperate with this kind of theme.  This company aims to lessen the income of a casino by reminding everyone to be in control and avoid getting addicted to gambling.  Though some casinos are very responsible but many would like to increase their income by making player hooked on their platform.  Thus responsible gambling is counterproductive to what the many casinos wanted.  There may be some casinos that will cooperate but mostly will not.

addiction is what made them rich and will make them more richer.
Well, the irony is that many of them donate just to give back and for the good cause of other people's welfare. On the other hand, what you have said is true that they're becoming rich because of people the money that comes from their gambling business, and that happens when gamblers are losing.

Gambling casino is a business establishement, it is obvious that this platform wants more profit from their player.  This is also the reason why many gambling platform offer generous bonuses with wagering requirements in order to hype and get the interest of the player while making it hard for these players to withdraw the money.

There goes the cycle of who gets the benefit and who contributes a lot. But a good thing that if there are helps like this, they should be easily searched and taken away for a dial or chat because usually, addicted gamblers need someone to talk to instantly to help him change his mind if ever something bad is already circulating onto his head.

There are indeed a good samaritan who volutarily reach out their hand to help people who are in need.  It maybe not in financial form but this kind of action helps way more than donations since giving suggestion and offering consultation is often what is needed by gambling addicts.

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There is no reason to prevent for-profit companies from achieving those goals especially increasing user satisfaction, but, the problem is do they use manipulation techniques or shady schemes to achieve that?

If that is true, then the word itself will become sinister. Instead of feeling better, the users are manipulated. This is obviously wrong, and we know there is antitrust toward big technology companies, and the reason is because they practise those things.

The thing is that every company, from a major one to a tiny food stall, all of them are trying to "manipulate" people so that they were buying their products. And those who are telling you about "manipulation techniques or shady schemes" are doing that too. They just want you to consume their product, information in that case. And it's natural, there's nothing wrong with that. You just can choose not listening to them, including the promotion from casinos. It's your choice.
I suspected this at first but I never saw it with my preliminary studies on the site. What breaks my heart the most online is what you just narrated, at times, I would believe that a site is so people and humanitarian inclined, but in the end, you would see them introducing some unexpected products/services to you. They just use the first opportunity of coming as an angel to get into you. To make it worse, the money to pay will not be such that is not so affordable, so why toying with people's emotions? It can be so annoying if you have been wasting hours reading their articles or watching their videos, and it will just be as if the person is hooked at one point. Out of no choice, at that point, many would still buy the products/services to try as they might have indeed entered their heads and manipulated them as you called it. But for me, I can never do that, I don't fall for cheap gimmicks like that whatsoever, but it instead annoys me. Even if I would have bought it if plainly and politely advertised, I wouldn't give it any shot again when it looks cunning to me.

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December 12, 2023, 09:31:27 AM
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I like what you are doing OP, even while this problem can't always be solved you still come up with this idea to help others with their addiction, thanks for doing your best, gambling addiction can only be beaten by someone who desperately want to stop their gambling addiction.

Some people want to stop their addiction, but that dream is only for the day, when they take some time off they will feel like gambling again, the truth is your mind can't desire for two things at the same time, if you want a change you need to make up your mind.

The only way to beat addiction is by firstly making up your mind, give up on gambling and force yourself to like other things, I have seen people doing things to themselves to escape that dark desire of gambling, they want it gone by doing all the can, while some can't get over it and choose to take their own lives, it's all matter of choice, it's better to always choose the right choices.

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December 12, 2023, 01:49:42 PM
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There is no reason to prevent for-profit companies from achieving those goals especially increasing user satisfaction, but, the problem is do they use manipulation techniques or shady schemes to achieve that?

If that is true, then the word itself will become sinister. Instead of feeling better, the users are manipulated. This is obviously wrong, and we know there is antitrust toward big technology companies, and the reason is because they practise those things.

The thing is that every company, from a major one to a tiny food stall, all of them are trying to "manipulate" people so that they were buying their products. And those who are telling you about "manipulation techniques or shady schemes" are doing that too. They just want you to consume their product, information in that case. And it's natural, there's nothing wrong with that. You just can choose not listening to them, including the promotion from casinos. It's your choice.

We must take power or information imbalance into account, a small retail is obviously different from social media companies which hold and have many user data accounts, that include their own user's behavior and interests. Given that, the probability they manipulate effectively will surely be a contrast and distinct matter. It is not just a mere to attract users to use or buy products or services.

The choice to use or not to use is certainly given to the users, but digging deeper, a question arises whether they are aware of being "manipulated" or not. Or, Are they aware they are being heavily influenced or not. If we took the asymmetrical information and power to the matter, surely it is not a simple thing where everything is ethically just.
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December 12, 2023, 09:05:52 PM
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There is no reason to prevent for-profit companies from achieving those goals especially increasing user satisfaction, but, the problem is do they use manipulation techniques or shady schemes to achieve that?

If that is true, then the word itself will become sinister. Instead of feeling better, the users are manipulated. This is obviously wrong, and we know there is antitrust toward big technology companies, and the reason is because they practise those things.

The thing is that every company, from a major one to a tiny food stall, all of them are trying to "manipulate" people so that they were buying their products. And those who are telling you about "manipulation techniques or shady schemes" are doing that too. They just want you to consume their product, information in that case. And it's natural, there's nothing wrong with that. You just can choose not listening to them, including the promotion from casinos. It's your choice.
I suspected this at first but I never saw it with my preliminary studies on the site. What breaks my heart the most online is what you just narrated, at times, I would believe that a site is so people and humanitarian inclined, but in the end, you would see them introducing some unexpected products/services to you. They just use the first opportunity of coming as an angel to get into you. To make it worse, the money to pay will not be such that is not so affordable, so why toying with people's emotions? It can be so annoying if you have been wasting hours reading their articles or watching their videos, and it will just be as if the person is hooked at one point. Out of no choice, at that point, many would still buy the products/services to try as they might have indeed entered their heads and manipulated them as you called it. But for me, I can never do that, I don't fall for cheap gimmicks like that whatsoever, but it instead annoys me. Even if I would have bought it if plainly and politely advertised, I wouldn't give it any shot again when it looks cunning to me.
Having these kind of doubts whenever we do see someone do have that kind of approach then it would really be that common that people would really be that dubtious on the things that they are dealing with.
Yes, there could be always some catch into the middle of that conversation because we do know that there's no such thing that could be free on this world. They wont really be offering something on which
they cant really be able to benefit considering that in every step that you are making or the hassle or the hard work that you do keep on talking on other people or offering some free service does really involved some effort and some spending on which it is really just that normal that you would really be that tending to try to utilize those things for you to make out some money later on.

We cant really be able to make some finalization that they would really be heading that way since there are really things which been announced to be completely free on which
they do really have that real approach or thing. So we cant make out some conclusion everytime.

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December 13, 2023, 02:11:30 AM
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And also worthy of note is that, every activity in life have their pros and cons, their advantages and disadvantage, gambling in itself is not a bad thing to do, abuse is what lead many people into becoming gambling addicts, those who respect the rules of gambling always enjoy and have fun doing it.
Apart from the abuse of playing excessively, it can also cause people to become gambling addicts, we all know that anything excessive will not have a good impact, especially if it is misused, everyone has different goals in gambling, some are looking for fun, some are looking for money, but for those who are looking for Their enjoyment will not be playing excessively and it is easy to control themselves when gambling.

But it's different for gamblers who are looking for money, usually they will play excessively and abuse the actual rules of the game, where when they lose they should stop to prevent losing more but there are still many who can't control their emotions when gambling where people always aim to make money in gambling. will end up addicted to gambling.
Excessive gambling and gambling addiction are directly related to each other because a person who gambles excessively will eventually become addicted to gambling as you said. So, these two shouldn't be two different things a person does because the first is an action, and the second is a state. A person who completes the action will reach the state someday. This is the reason why it's always recommended that a person shouldn't get engaged with excessive gambling.

An excessive or addicted gambler will never be able to do anything in their life unless or until they stop gambling or at least reduce their gambling activities to a large extent because when you are addicted to gambling, you don't realize how much time and money you are spending on it and only a second person can see you doing that.

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December 13, 2023, 04:23:58 AM
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This thread is getting a lot of support and discussions is ongoing at least OP should give us an update on how things are going I remember you sent me a message about linking up with casinos so how is it are you successful linking up and are you getting positive response from the casinos that you asked to link up, Bitcointalk community is all out in support of your cause.
I hope you get all the support from the majority of the casinos so you can support those who require help with gambling addiction, keep us updated for any developments.

It's been a lot of discussions in the thread. Not so many questions for me lately.
We haven't heard anything from any casinos about collaborations. If any casino is interested, don't hesitate to send me a message. By adding information on responsible gambling pages, you can help people find help if they struggle with gambling problems.

Since the thread started, QuitGamble.com has launched in Portuguese and French. Hopefully, we can add more content on the Spanish site soon as well. Tomorrow, our platform will reach 5000 members. Something we looked forward to for a long time.
for  sure that there will be other groups that may cooperate and coordinate to your team but Casino houses? I'm afraid that they will ever have any  interest in doing such because Addiction is their target, addiction is their weapon, addiction is what made them rich and will make them more richer.

I did not say that to attach casinos but I am telling what for me  is real , because each gambling addict is their milking cow and who's farmer that will let their cow's gone?



Yeah that's the reason we can't expect to much on them especially on having a partnership on some certain group that tackle up gambling addiction and help those people affected. They create this business for them to earn a profit and not for doing any charity work for any organization or certain individual. So its really up for the person or people around him on how they can aid up this addiction since this is really a serious matter for a person.
Mate I will clear to you that even when you called them to make profit but remember that OP spend His own money for such a time now providing help for gambling addict so the initiative and effort itself shows we need not to care if he will make money or something because his doing is enough to call Him good Philanthropist and willing to spend before gaining .
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But I guess there are separate groups can help people who's suffering gambling addiction so maybe the person affect could present theirself to seek for help and get aid also for people in this forum maybe they could try the service offered on the site mention then see if there's changes happened of we can get a help from these people regarding on what we are or those gamblng addict  facing.
it is rare to find those who really wanted to help addicted without looking for something in return , and instead of looking for anything  lets just spread this initiative of OP because we might know that one day our loveone will also  need this kind of help .









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December 13, 2023, 06:35:03 AM
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And also worthy of note is that, every activity in life have their pros and cons, their advantages and disadvantage, gambling in itself is not a bad thing to do, abuse is what lead many people into becoming gambling addicts, those who respect the rules of gambling always enjoy and have fun doing it.
Apart from the abuse of playing excessively, it can also cause people to become gambling addicts, we all know that anything excessive will not have a good impact, especially if it is misused, everyone has different goals in gambling, some are looking for fun, some are looking for money, but for those who are looking for Their enjoyment will not be playing excessively and it is easy to control themselves when gambling.

But it's different for gamblers who are looking for money, usually they will play excessively and abuse the actual rules of the game, where when they lose they should stop to prevent losing more but there are still many who can't control their emotions when gambling where people always aim to make money in gambling. will end up addicted to gambling.
Excessive gambling and gambling addiction are directly related to each other because a person who gambles excessively will eventually become addicted to gambling as you said. So, these two shouldn't be two different things a person does because the first is an action, and the second is a state. A person who completes the action will reach the state someday. This is the reason why it's always recommended that a person shouldn't get engaged with excessive gambling.

An excessive or addicted gambler will never be able to do anything in their life unless or until they stop gambling or at least reduce their gambling activities to a large extent because when you are addicted to gambling, you don't realize how much time and money you are spending on it and only a second person can see you doing that.
Exactly the point, you hit the nail on the head and that's very good, I would say that excessive gambling is an action just as you have stated, and addiction to gambling is the repercussion, or the result of the action, I think this is better than saying it's a state.

People work hard, and in return they make money, and or what ever they were working for, but it's not so with gambling, even though some gamblers mistakenly think along this line and apply this to their gambling, believing that gambling hard will help them win more money, gambling hard, or excessively gambling will only lead to gambling addiction, and even if the gambler made good money through excessive gambling, he or she will still lose is all back to the casino when addiction sets in.

This is why, we are advised to take gambling as a fun venture, rather than a money making venture, for he or she who gambles for fun will only do so when he or she feels like, and have money to spare.

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December 15, 2023, 02:05:31 PM
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This is why, we are advised to take gambling as a fun venture, rather than a money making venture, for he or she who gambles for fun will only do so when he or she feels like, and have money to spare.

The pitfall is gambling is addictive by nature. On the first hand, people may be seeking the fun of it, but if they are not doing it carefully, they might get addicted. It is easy to say that we only do it for fun or suggest others do the same, but each unique human being behaves differently when exposed to something. Some people may have high tolerance so they are unlikely to get addicted, but the opposites do happen.

So, rather than directing people to fixate only on playing it for fun, I'm sure the kind of platform that OP endorses is a good way to help those in need. There is no judgment but simply a helpful motive.
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~ It is true that gambling have become modernized, technology have affected and changed almost everything, trying to stop gambling right now will only push people into the older ways gambling was practiced before the internet came into existence.

And also worthy of note is that, every activity in life have their pros and cons, their advantages and disadvantage, gambling in itself is not a bad thing to do, abuse is what lead many people into becoming gambling addicts, those who respect the rules of gambling always enjoy and have fun doing it.

Sorry, I don't understand what do you mean by that? You mean gambling addicts after undergoing a therapy start gambling in land-based casinos? Are there such cases? Because I think it's harder to get rid of internet gambling addiction, and people who are cured from it will not even think of going into land-based casinos.

I totally agree with the second part of your post though. It's not gambling itself that ruins people's lives, it's abusing it is what's bad.

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December 17, 2023, 02:43:16 PM
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~ It is true that gambling have become modernized, technology have affected and changed almost everything, trying to stop gambling right now will only push people into the older ways gambling was practiced before the internet came into existence.

And also worthy of note is that, every activity in life have their pros and cons, their advantages and disadvantage, gambling in itself is not a bad thing to do, abuse is what lead many people into becoming gambling addicts, those who respect the rules of gambling always enjoy and have fun doing it.

Sorry, I don't understand what do you mean by that? You mean gambling addicts after undergoing a therapy start gambling in land-based casinos? Are there such cases? Because I think it's harder to get rid of internet gambling addiction, and people who are cured from it will not even think of going into land-based casinos.

I totally agree with the second part of your post though. It's not gambling itself that ruins people's lives, it's abusing it is what's bad.
Since the second part is fixed, let me be silent about it, but on the first part, before @Fivestar4everMVP ships in his valuable response, let me say there is a high probability that he is right. I said this because when something happens, you never can tell what the effect will entirely be. Most times too, the effect could be distributed, which is why I believe that he is right and you are also right to have the doubt about it. In gambling, if you look thoughtfully, you would realise that the most addicted nowadays are the ones who are gambling on the internet with their own gadget which is now the closest companion in the 21st century. This is possible because the more they are closer to their gadget, the more they feel that urge to open the app and gamble. This is not the same thing as a gambler who gambles often offline, that alone will limit him automatically.

And part of what will limit him is the proximity of the gambling house to his house or office, even the transport cost is enough to dissuade some people and convince them. This alone could practically help those who are gambling addicts to caution themselves when they vowed not to gamble through the internet again but through the gambling house only. As simple as it is, it will work for so many, though not for all since we have different strengths of mind and determination. Specifically, for someone like me, my yes is my yes, and the same as my no, and when I delete the app, I will not install it again. Under this, it will naturally reduce the gambling extent of the person and this is what I believe @Fivestar4everMVP is trying to point to in the first category. After all, if that could solve an issue that online gambling can't solve, many might resolve to it if need be.

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~ It is true that gambling have become modernized, technology have affected and changed almost everything, trying to stop gambling right now will only push people into the older ways gambling was practiced before the internet came into existence.

And also worthy of note is that, every activity in life have their pros and cons, their advantages and disadvantage, gambling in itself is not a bad thing to do, abuse is what lead many people into becoming gambling addicts, those who respect the rules of gambling always enjoy and have fun doing it.

Sorry, I don't understand what do you mean by that? You mean gambling addicts after undergoing a therapy start gambling in land-based casinos? Are there such cases? Because I think it's harder to get rid of internet gambling addiction, and people who are cured from it will not even think of going into land-based casinos.

I totally agree with the second part of your post though. It's not gambling itself that ruins people's lives, it's abusing it is what's bad.
Whether you have caught yourself getting addicted neither online or offline gambling and on the time that you had been able to experience those worst things then you would really be definitely be
trying out to avoid as much as you could once you had tasted up that unfortunate condition. People would usually be starting out to realize with those mistakes if they would really be able to experience those bitter things on which they would really be able to forget it out for the rest of their lives and they would really be avoiding things as much as they could. If ever they would really be going back
again into addiction just because of having no control then it would really be just that proving out that your addiction hadnt been wiped out yet or simply you are a type of person who doesnt really
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and also with their sincerity then success will come to this project and also for others that will be Open minded that gambling is not just as simple as they think and Gamblers should not be blamed completely because no one wanted to be addicted and the obligation here is to help them out and theres no need of blaming as this is really a serious problem as the world facing addiction problem.a friend of mine also faced this problem but lucky that he is now sober and yeah a gambling free human.
That too, sincere help is better than a forced one because you know that the person cares about you. Open mindedness is a mindset that needs to be learned early on in life because being open minded is difficult when you're an adult with an established belief. The victim blaming part is a difficult one because when you listen to the argument of these people that do this, they always sound so logical and reasonable but the problem is that victim blaming invalidates their horrific experience into a lesson that will soon be forgotten after listening to it, I hope that more and more people learn not to do that kind of thing against people that are a victim of addiction and many other horrifying experiences out there. Good for your friend to be able to stop gambling and live a life free of that vice.

We can only lecture peeps surrounding us but we cant make them act on it. If it was that easy then everyone would have gotten motivated with motivating speeches and podcasts but they dont. In reality motivation remains valid for only momentarily timeline. Once that person is out of that zone they no longer act on it. This requires restructuring of the lifestyle by going for another motivational therapy. That sucks.

Whenever it comes to gambling, only one thing can help them stay away from the addiction and thats: “discipline”.  Mark this word, it can help get out of the addiction problem real quick with streamlined gambling. This discipline could be as easy as following timelines, making routine checks on accounting, giving away games when losing and much more realistic checks in the list. So yeah, better follow a discipline rather than hoping a help from someone else.
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and also with their sincerity then success will come to this project and also for others that will be Open minded that gambling is not just as simple as they think and Gamblers should not be blamed completely because no one wanted to be addicted and the obligation here is to help them out and theres no need of blaming as this is really a serious problem as the world facing addiction problem.a friend of mine also faced this problem but lucky that he is now sober and yeah a gambling free human.
That too, sincere help is better than a forced one because you know that the person cares about you. Open mindedness is a mindset that needs to be learned early on in life because being open minded is difficult when you're an adult with an established belief. The victim blaming part is a difficult one because when you listen to the argument of these people that do this, they always sound so logical and reasonable but the problem is that victim blaming invalidates their horrific experience into a lesson that will soon be forgotten after listening to it, I hope that more and more people learn not to do that kind of thing against people that are a victim of addiction and many other horrifying experiences out there. Good for your friend to be able to stop gambling and live a life free of that vice.

We can only lecture peeps surrounding us but we cant make them act on it. If it was that easy then everyone would have gotten motivated with motivating speeches and podcasts but they dont. In reality motivation remains valid for only momentarily timeline. Once that person is out of that zone they no longer act on it. This requires restructuring of the lifestyle by going for another motivational therapy. That sucks.

Whenever it comes to gambling, only one thing can help them stay away from the addiction and thats: “discipline”.  Mark this word, it can help get out of the addiction problem real quick with streamlined gambling. This discipline could be as easy as following timelines, making routine checks on accounting, giving away games when losing and much more realistic checks in the list. So yeah, better follow a discipline rather than hoping a help from someone else.
Self control would really be that different on each person when we do speak about levels and its true that discipline would be the key but eventually most people do fail on doing so. Why?
because they cant really just removed out gambling into their minds and doesnt realize on whats actually doing it into his/her life considering that he has been addicted into it.
 You wont really be putting up on so much trouble if you are really just that sensible on the things that you are doing. People would really be just having those realizations when it already too late
or the damage has been done already and this is why you should be thinking up fast before that happens.

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 #306

~ It is true that gambling have become modernized, technology have affected and changed almost everything, trying to stop gambling right now will only push people into the older ways gambling was practiced before the internet came into existence.

And also worthy of note is that, every activity in life have their pros and cons, their advantages and disadvantage, gambling in itself is not a bad thing to do, abuse is what lead many people into becoming gambling addicts, those who respect the rules of gambling always enjoy and have fun doing it.

Sorry, I don't understand what do you mean by that? You mean gambling addicts after undergoing a therapy start gambling in land-based casinos? Are there such cases? Because I think it's harder to get rid of internet gambling addiction, and people who are cured from it will not even think of going into land-based casinos.

I totally agree with the second part of your post though. It's not gambling itself that ruins people's lives, it's abusing it is what's bad.

i think what he meant here is that if online gambling will be banned or stopped, people will just go back to the traditional way of gambling which is land-based casinos. it is not that online gambling addicts after stopping their addiction, will go back to offline casinos.

but in any case, any vice is bad if you abuse them. if done in occasional basis, you would find that it is truly enjoyable as you will have the fun of your life.

moderation is needed to keep yourself in check of your habits. if you are feel you are heading to addiction, much better to pause for a while and give time yourself to contemplate on things and what you really want to do in life. sometimes, self-assessment from time to time will help you understand what's going on around you and yourself.

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~ It is true that gambling have become modernized, technology have affected and changed almost everything, trying to stop gambling right now will only push people into the older ways gambling was practiced before the internet came into existence.

And also worthy of note is that, every activity in life have their pros and cons, their advantages and disadvantage, gambling in itself is not a bad thing to do, abuse is what lead many people into becoming gambling addicts, those who respect the rules of gambling always enjoy and have fun doing it.

Sorry, I don't understand what do you mean by that? You mean gambling addicts after undergoing a therapy start gambling in land-based casinos? Are there such cases? Because I think it's harder to get rid of internet gambling addiction, and people who are cured from it will not even think of going into land-based casinos.

I totally agree with the second part of your post though. It's not gambling itself that ruins people's lives, it's abusing it is what's bad.

i think what he meant here is that if online gambling will be banned or stopped, people will just go back to the traditional way of gambling which is land-based casinos. it is not that online gambling addicts after stopping their addiction, will go back to offline casinos.

but in any case, any vice is bad if you abuse them. if done in occasional basis, you would find that it is truly enjoyable as you will have the fun of your life.

moderation is needed to keep yourself in check of your habits. if you are feel you are heading to addiction, much better to pause for a while and give time yourself to contemplate on things and what you really want to do in life. sometimes, self-assessment from time to time will help you understand what's going on around you and yourself.

Well, when there is some suspicion about the player who is being added, the first thing you have to do is figure out how they can attack the problem. It is obvious that it also takes a lot of courage on the part of the person affected to accept something like that, because it is not easy, For me, in particular, it will always give me a lot to help people with words, since I see them in that way, because it is something that can affect a lot, I could say that a person who accepts that he is addicted and that he would like to be helped and that gives Just enough to think about, because the fact of attacking the problem quickly means that many things that come later will be avoided, because problems, things that happen within the person's environment that are negative, all this is what makes the eprosans possible. They may fall into temptations that they should not, all this is valid as long as things are done well, some, those who can do things to generate a better cure, go to psychologists, who are specialized people who are able to deal with cases like these because it is the most is recommended.

In this order of ideas , we can talk about the fact that there are many ways that things can be Avoided in games, and it is not only addiction that can be avoided, but also some players who are affected by other things that Cause problems , like alcohol , well. It is also necessary that you check yourself before going to a place, that is, if you have a bad drink, do not drink while playing in a casino, because it is a very bad food, if you have a bad drink, do not drive the car, in fact if a person It is a bad drink, because he should not do it when he goes out on the street so that he does not have unpleasant situations for that person and those who at that time do not meet him , because things can turn out to be very ugly, some people do not accept that an eprosna that is past drinks because it is not right at all and they can achieve it , there have even been cases where they Even kill people like that.

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December 22, 2023, 10:52:14 AM
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Hi Everyone!
I wanted to share a project that I've been part of. 5 years ago, I changed course from being a casino affiliate to working with problem gambling. It's been a project full of challenges, happiness, tears, and fighting. I wanted to do something different, and I saw how many people struggle.

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Not a bad idea. The first thing that comes to mind is that when something is "free" the product is "you" - the user. But still, it is great to have so many resources in one place, in fact it may become a bit overwhelming and it might be useful to have a one-pager for quick reference to those that might benefit from it. Also "quit gamble" is not really what most people would want... you know, is not crack or smoking.... most would want to "control gambling".

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December 25, 2023, 10:32:32 AM
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~This is not the same thing as a gambler who gambles often offline, that alone will limit him automatically.
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And that's why I said that to get rid of online gambling addiction is harder and I doubt that we could name many gamblers who got rid of online addiction but continued going to land-based casinos.

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moderation is needed to keep yourself in check of your habits. if you are feel you are heading to addiction, much better to pause for a while and give time yourself to contemplate on things and what you really want to do in life. sometimes, self-assessment from time to time will help you understand what's going on around you and yourself.

That's a good advice. Indeed, gambling addicts can't think of anything but gambling all the time. Thinking of what you really want to do in life can open your eyes and see that you are heading to addiction if you continue this way.

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That's a good advice. Indeed, gambling addicts can't think of anything but gambling all the time. Thinking of what you really want to do in life can open your eyes and see that you are heading to addiction if you continue this way.
Addiction is likened to madness, it is until a madman knows that he is mad that he will be healed, the same thing goes for addictions, especially in gambling. Gambling addiction is bad, but unfortunately, it takes a whole long time for this to occur to many addicted people, they would have wasted money, energy and time on it and all that they will be thinking about is betting and getting to try their luck in it. For some of these people, it's mere fun, and to this category, it might be minimal since they might be wise enough not to use big money for it. Yet, if too consistent, money would be wasted. To them, they are enjoying their hobby, but there is nothing you do too much which takes more of your time and never without a good thing to show for it that is good.

A responsible gambler must moderate things so that they will not affect their personal lives. This category is lessened in effect, yet, no one should be addicted to gambling, it is bad, and if it doesn't take money, it takes another thing, or both. However, the worst category is the ones that would believe they can make their life's fortune in gambling, but instead, wasting money repeatedly and continue to do so for they believe they can make the money eventually through it. In most cases, the money will never come, but this would have attached to their minds and it goes on like that until they eventually realize their mistakes or find help.

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December 26, 2023, 06:45:32 PM
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This is possible because the more they are closer to their gadget, the more they feel that urge to open the app and gamble. This is not the same thing as a gambler who gambles often offline, that alone will limit him automatically.
It's true but it can only work if the person gambling offline doesn't have a land-based casino or a betting shop near them and they need to travel from their place to somewhere far away to gamble which they might not always do because you wouldn't want to travel more than 20km just to gamble with $20 or something which a person wouldn't bother doing if they are gambling online since they can do it from the comfort of their home, sitting at the couch having a snack.

However, if the person has a casino or a betting shop within walking distance from where they live, it might not have that big of an effect on them and their gambling addiction because whenever they have some money, they can walk into the casino or the betting shop and gamble it away without any problems or a second thought.

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December 26, 2023, 06:58:59 PM
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This is possible because the more they are closer to their gadget, the more they feel that urge to open the app and gamble. This is not the same thing as a gambler who gambles often offline, that alone will limit him automatically.
It's true but it can only work if the person gambling offline doesn't have a land-based casino or a betting shop near them and they need to travel from their place to somewhere far away to gamble which they might not always do because you wouldn't want to travel more than 20km just to gamble with $20 or something which a person wouldn't bother doing if they are gambling online since they can do it from the comfort of their home, sitting at the couch having a snack.

However, if the person has a casino or a betting shop within walking distance from where they live, it might not have that big of an effect on them and their gambling addiction because whenever they have some money, they can walk into the casino or the betting shop and gamble it away without any problems or a second thought.
But if you do have the money then it wont really be that a problem on which it is really that something that you would really be definitely be able to do so since you are capable on doing on. There are
people who dont really care about on the situation no matter how tough it would be as long they could really be able to do the things on what up into their mind then it wont really be that an issue.
It is really just that there are people who are really that desperate on playing or doing things basing up into the level of addiction that they do have into their selves.
This is why it would really be that important that you should really be having that kind of responsible act or being that mindful and wary on the things that you've been
doing and not really just that impulsive making out acts without thinking about the possible things that could happen into you.

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December 28, 2023, 02:11:46 PM
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This is possible because the more they are closer to their gadget, the more they feel that urge to open the app and gamble. This is not the same thing as a gambler who gambles often offline, that alone will limit him automatically.
It's true but it can only work if the person gambling offline doesn't have a land-based casino or a betting shop near them and they need to travel from their place to somewhere far away to gamble which they might not always do because you wouldn't want to travel more than 20km just to gamble with $20 or something which a person wouldn't bother doing if they are gambling online since they can do it from the comfort of their home, sitting at the couch having a snack.

However, if the person has a casino or a betting shop within walking distance from where they live, it might not have that big of an effect on them and their gambling addiction because whenever they have some money, they can walk into the casino or the betting shop and gamble it away without any problems or a second thought.
But if you do have the money then it wont really be that a problem on which it is really that something that you would really be definitely be able to do so since you are capable on doing on. There are
people who dont really care about on the situation no matter how tough it would be as long they could really be able to do the things on what up into their mind then it wont really be that an issue.
It is really just that there are people who are really that desperate on playing or doing things basing up into the level of addiction that they do have into their selves.
This is why it would really be that important that you should really be having that kind of responsible act or being that mindful and wary on the things that you've been
doing and not really just that impulsive making out acts without thinking about the possible things that could happen into you.

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December 28, 2023, 02:41:58 PM
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This is possible because the more they are closer to their gadget, the more they feel that urge to open the app and gamble. This is not the same thing as a gambler who gambles often offline, that alone will limit him automatically.
It's true but it can only work if the person gambling offline doesn't have a land-based casino or a betting shop near them and they need to travel from their place to somewhere far away to gamble which they might not always do because you wouldn't want to travel more than 20km just to gamble with $20 or something which a person wouldn't bother doing if they are gambling online since they can do it from the comfort of their home, sitting at the couch having a snack.

However, if the person has a casino or a betting shop within walking distance from where they live, it might not have that big of an effect on them and their gambling addiction because whenever they have some money, they can walk into the casino or the betting shop and gamble it away without any problems or a second thought.
I think the truth of the matter is that, gambling have been made really easy for everyone, whether you are gambling offline or online, it's pretty easy to gamble, and this is because, for those gambling offline, it's easy in the sense that, they don't have to travel far anymore as offline casinos have become a very popular and as well as a very lucrative business,  we have a lot of them around us and not far away anymore, and even a gambler lives in a remote area where casinos dont find good for their business, there are actually betting agents usually stationed on those kind or type of places, so, one doesn't really have to travel too far to gamble anymore, just walk into the betting agents shop and state what you want, and that bet will be placed for you ASAP.

And for those who gamble online, it is the most easiest this days, and this is why I personally believe that online gamblers are the most addicted when it comes to gambling, quitting is always hard as long as the gambler have a mobile device on his hands with an internet connection, and where its even harder is that, most gamblers still do other meaning and productive things online, like making money through freelancing, trading and so on, so, it is not easy for a gambler to give up his or her device and stay off the internet all in the name of trying to break free from gambling addiction.

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December 28, 2023, 07:37:22 PM
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However, if the person has a casino or a betting shop within walking distance from where they live, it might not have that big of an effect on them and their gambling addiction because whenever they have some money, they can walk into the casino or the betting shop and gamble it away without any problems or a second thought.
It's up to those people if there's some betting shop that close to them. It's all about being responsible and the discipline that they can apply to themselves. If they can't be disciplined and they won't want it.

No matter how close or far they reside from the physical casinos, they are going to come there no matter what the situation is. This is all about themselves already and whatever is the circumstance that they're facing if they are determined to go there, they will go.

That's why we still see people that keeps on gambling even if we've giving them 100% of tips on how to stop.

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December 29, 2023, 05:52:01 AM
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However, if the person has a casino or a betting shop within walking distance from where they live, it might not have that big of an effect on them and their gambling addiction because whenever they have some money, they can walk into the casino or the betting shop and gamble it away without any problems or a second thought.
It's up to those people if there's some betting shop that close to them. It's all about being responsible and the discipline that they can apply to themselves. If they can't be disciplined and they won't want it.

No matter how close or far they reside from the physical casinos, they are going to come there no matter what the situation is. This is all about themselves already and whatever is the circumstance that they're facing if they are determined to go there, they will go.

That's why we still see people that keeps on gambling even if we've giving them 100% of tips on how to stop.
Distance has become a moot point when it comes to most services and this includes casinos, since we no longer need to travel a few miles to gamble at our favorite casino, instead we can literally just grab our smartphone from our pocket and we will have access to almost anything that we may imagine, consequently we need to be more careful than ever on what we do online and how we do it in order to avoid an addiction to develop which could take us forever to get rid of.
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December 29, 2023, 10:36:25 AM
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It's up to those people if there's some betting shop that close to them. It's all about being responsible and the discipline that they can apply to themselves. If they can't be disciplined and they won't want it.

No matter how close or far they reside from the physical casinos, they are going to come there no matter what the situation is. This is all about themselves already and whatever is the circumstance that they're facing if they are determined to go there, they will go.

That's why we still see people that keeps on gambling even if we've giving them 100% of tips on how to stop.
Distance has become a moot point when it comes to most services and this includes casinos, since we no longer need to travel a few miles to gamble at our favorite casino, instead we can literally just grab our smartphone from our pocket and we will have access to almost anything that we may imagine
If a gambler is decided to gamble, distance can be not an issue to him. But it adds really a point on why someone who wants to quit can go back anytime because of the location.

Well, the most important matter right now. Even if someone is too close to the location, we're even closer now through technology and internet. As long as you have the device, you can gamble anytime and anywhere and I think that's even a harder situation for most of us.

consequently we need to be more careful than ever on what we do online and how we do it in order to avoid an addiction to develop which could take us forever to get rid of.
We are always reminded to do things in a controlled way. Because when we get out of touch, the situation is going to be way worse than what we could imagine.

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December 29, 2023, 12:05:00 PM
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However, if the person has a casino or a betting shop within walking distance from where they live, it might not have that big of an effect on them and their gambling addiction because whenever they have some money, they can walk into the casino or the betting shop and gamble it away without any problems or a second thought.
It's up to those people if there's some betting shop that close to them. It's all about being responsible and the discipline that they can apply to themselves. If they can't be disciplined and they won't want it.

No matter how close or far they reside from the physical casinos, they are going to come there no matter what the situation is. This is all about themselves already and whatever is the circumstance that they're facing if they are determined to go there, they will go.

That's why we still see people that keeps on gambling even if we've giving them 100% of tips on how to stop.

Thats true. I have amazing experience with something similar to this. When I was in university in Sunderland (UK), there were more william hill casinos than the houses. Lolz. Surprisingly they has casinos right on the main road that led to university. The street name was Chester Rd. As far as I remember there were 2-3 different franchises that is Betaway, William Hill, and Corral. All of them were housed with different games, whether its slots, roulette on screen, sports section, they had everything. Me and my friends visited them more often but we realised pretty soon that we are getting addicted to this a lot and we need to stop. It was not that hard to stop it as we made our focus more prompt on the studies, master projects and soon they were like invisible for us in no time. Its all about where you focus, you just need another strong addiction (a good one) to cop up with the first one.
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December 30, 2023, 05:42:20 PM
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That's a good advice. Indeed, gambling addicts can't think of anything but gambling all the time. Thinking of what you really want to do in life can open your eyes and see that you are heading to addiction if you continue this way.
Addiction is likened to madness, it is until a madman knows that he is mad that he will be healed, the same thing goes for addictions, especially in gambling. Gambling addiction is bad, but unfortunately, it takes a whole long time for this to occur to many addicted people, they would have wasted money, energy and time on it and all that they will be thinking about is betting and getting to try their luck in it. For some of these people, it's mere fun, and to this category, it might be minimal since they might be wise enough not to use big money for it. Yet, if too consistent, money would be wasted. To them, they are enjoying their hobby, but there is nothing you do too much which takes more of your time and never without a good thing to show for it that is good.

A responsible gambler must moderate things so that they will not affect their personal lives. This category is lessened in effect, yet, no one should be addicted to gambling, it is bad, and if it doesn't take money, it takes another thing, or both. However, the worst category is the ones that would believe they can make their life's fortune in gambling, but instead, wasting money repeatedly and continue to do so for they believe they can make the money eventually through it. In most cases, the money will never come, but this would have attached to their minds and it goes on like that until they eventually realize their mistakes or find help.

There are many cases where people are aware that they are addicted to gambling or other things, but still people refuse to take treatment to stop the addiction because they always use the argument that they can cure themselves and this gets worse when the person who is addicted to gambling is not happy in the real world, financial and love problems lead people to go into depression and become addicted to something and as long as you don't talk much with the addicted person for them to tell you why she is unhappy and how could she be happy and then start treating her for addiction, it would be difficult to cure an addicted person, years ago I had people I knew who became addicted, they suffered from depression

and at that time I couldn't understand why they were suffering from depression, what was their problem that led them to constantly be sad and frustrated, it was something they didn't tell me and looking back today, I see that it was too obvious to see what they had . but at that time I was too naive so I couldn't understand much, I pressured them to undergo addiction treatment, he assumed he was addicted, he underwent addiction treatment but when he left the isolation center, he returned to addiction, which It made me sad and he kept making a lot of promises that he would be able to stop this time, but he couldn't stop the addiction and as a result he went back to the isolation center to get adequate treatment to stop the addiction.

but months later, when he left the isolation center for addiction treatment, he returned to the addiction, this was frequent until the addiction killed him, by this I mean that it is not easy to cure the addiction, and you need to be a very determined person to fighting is having the will to win and being the type of person who doesn't give up on themselves, even when things don't seem to be going well and it is necessary for the person to remain very firm in the fight they are having.

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Hi Everyone!
I wanted to share a project that I've been part of. 5 years ago, I changed course from being a casino affiliate to working with problem gambling. It's been a project full of challenges, happiness, tears, and fighting. I wanted to do something different, and I saw how many people struggle.

QuitGamble.com is an online platform and mobile app to help people with gambling problems. The platform is free to use, and members get access to:
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Everything on QuitGamble.com is built from a problem gambler's perspective. We don't talk about responsible gambling, which many other organizations who claim to work with problem gambling do. For us, there is no such thing as RG for someone with gambling problems. (Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)

The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, and soon French and Portuguese.

If you're curious about our project, please feel free to reach out. I would be happy to receive any feedback, both positive and negative. If you have a gambling problem, I would recommend you take a look at our how to stop gambling addiction guide. It's a step-by-step process that will put you on a new track.


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Not a bad idea. The first thing that comes to mind is that when something is "free" the product is "you" - the user. But still, it is great to have so many resources in one place, in fact it may become a bit overwhelming and it might be useful to have a one-pager for quick reference to those that might benefit from it. Also "quit gamble" is not really what most people would want... you know, is not crack or smoking.... most would want to "control gambling".

Going by your last statement paxmao, i also concur with that, people will rather control their gambling than quitting, i rarely hear people saying that they wanted to quit gambling, but you can always hear about some in need of how they can control the way they gamble, if we go by the option of quitting, it may not really solve the problem at hand like when we realized the need to deal with the way gamblers had been on it the wrong way and come in to help with the situation.



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December 30, 2023, 09:25:30 PM
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It's up to those people if there's some betting shop that close to them. It's all about being responsible and the discipline that they can apply to themselves. If they can't be disciplined and they won't want it.

No matter how close or far they reside from the physical casinos, they are going to come there no matter what the situation is. This is all about themselves already and whatever is the circumstance that they're facing if they are determined to go there, they will go.

That's why we still see people that keeps on gambling even if we've giving them 100% of tips on how to stop.

Thats true. I have amazing experience with something similar to this. When I was in university in Sunderland (UK), there were more william hill casinos than the houses. Lolz. Surprisingly they has casinos right on the main road that led to university. The street name was Chester Rd. As far as I remember there were 2-3 different franchises that is Betaway, William Hill, and Corral. All of them were housed with different games, whether its slots, roulette on screen, sports section, they had everything. Me and my friends visited them more often but we realised pretty soon that we are getting addicted to this a lot and we need to stop. It was not that hard to stop it as we made our focus more prompt on the studies, master projects and soon they were like invisible for us in no time. Its all about where you focus, you just need another strong addiction (a good one) to cop up with the first one.
Good that you're able to stop it before your emotions go to the worse part of being attached and addicted to gambling. Since it's a physical casino, there's like the urge or call that you should go there once you've been there.

Because not everyone can do that especially if they don't have any other endeavors on their lives and merely focusing on gambling. They're the ones that are prone to addiction as they will allot most of their times on it.

I think whoever owns those betting shops have placed it strategically to have customers like you who are clos to the university.

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....(Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)


You are indeed doing a great job with the help for gamblers and the provison for assistance to gamblers and addicts should be encouraged at a global scale rather than just an individual effort.

UNFORTUNATELY, people still write about the ills and dangers of tobacco and get more people smoking it. Ever seen "Tobacco smoking is dangerous to your health" and still get loads of people buying and smoking it while reading it off the packs.


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December 31, 2023, 02:06:29 AM
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It's up to those people if there's some betting shop that close to them. It's all about being responsible and the discipline that they can apply to themselves. If they can't be disciplined and they won't want it.

No matter how close or far they reside from the physical casinos, they are going to come there no matter what the situation is. This is all about themselves already and whatever is the circumstance that they're facing if they are determined to go there, they will go.

That's why we still see people that keeps on gambling even if we've giving them 100% of tips on how to stop.

Thats true. I have amazing experience with something similar to this. When I was in university in Sunderland (UK), there were more william hill casinos than the houses. Lolz. Surprisingly they has casinos right on the main road that led to university. The street name was Chester Rd. As far as I remember there were 2-3 different franchises that is Betaway, William Hill, and Corral. All of them were housed with different games, whether its slots, roulette on screen, sports section, they had everything. Me and my friends visited them more often but we realised pretty soon that we are getting addicted to this a lot and we need to stop. It was not that hard to stop it as we made our focus more prompt on the studies, master projects and soon they were like invisible for us in no time. Its all about where you focus, you just need another strong addiction (a good one) to cop up with the first one.
Good that you're able to stop it before your emotions go to the worse part of being attached and addicted to gambling. Since it's a physical casino, there's like the urge or call that you should go there once you've been there.

Because not everyone can do that especially if they don't have any other endeavors on their lives and merely focusing on gambling. They're the ones that are prone to addiction as they will allot most of their times on it.

I think whoever owns those betting shops have placed it strategically to have customers like you who are clos to the university.
Good for you if you do able to stop it midway because usually people would really be just that able to stop completely or made them that change is on the time that they had been devastated with gambling and they did really just that tolerate into those conditions that they had until they would really be seeing themselves getting broke and devastated because of too much involvement with gambling. We do know that it isnt really that bad to gamble as long that everything would really be in moderation but in the time comes that you are already that compromising your finances and at the same time with other relationship specially into  your family then this is the best time that you should quit gambling. Dont wait up for everything to get messed up.

You could actually solve out those problems of your own if you are really just that willing to quit gambling for good. It would really be just that depending into your self control
and discipline towards it.

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December 31, 2023, 03:35:43 AM
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You could actually solve out those problems of your own if you are really just that willing to quit gambling for good. It would really be just that depending into your self control
and discipline towards it.
Yes. It's about your willingness since we should be the first to help ourselves. So if the gambler is really determine to overcome the addiction, it will start by changing what he used to. This includes refraining from using any gadget that can tempt from playing again. It would be best to have an activity that can divert the attention and keep oneself busy. Having someone (or a community)to talk to is always good because that's how you can get a support, but as I have said, willingness is crucial.

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....(Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)


You are indeed doing a great job with the help for gamblers and the provison for assistance to gamblers and addicts should be encouraged at a global scale rather than just an individual effort.

UNFORTUNATELY, people still write about the ills and dangers of tobacco and get more people smoking it. Ever seen "Tobacco smoking is dangerous to your health" and still get loads of people buying and smoking it while reading it off the packs.
You blame the people and the government that is saddled with the responsibility to protect the people for this as the government is showing a less concerned attitude to people's welfare. If people are not wise enough to do the needful then the government should force them to do it, that is the sane arrangement. But for the selfish gains, the government is earning through tax and other means, they will turn a blind eye to it. Truly, tobacco and some other substances in the open market are bad, they are damaging and addictive, yet they give the consumers the option as an adult. The option is, however, reasonable and neutral enough, yet seeing that thing is a temptation on its own.

But when it is inexistent anyone, there is no way such people will not be letting go of it. But the government will not do that since the benefit outweighs the health of the citizens in their own dictionary.

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December 31, 2023, 01:07:12 PM
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Yea, this whole "responsible gambling" marketing is a bunch of crap, because most of the sites are doing just the opposite. I have seen a site promoting that, but they refused to stop sending gambling promotions via email to gamblers that self-excluded from their site.  Angry

Thank you for posting the URL, I will bookmark it and then send it to people that reach out for help on social media. Gambling addiction is not something to you can tackle on your own.. you need a support system.  Sad

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December 31, 2023, 01:09:57 PM
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You could actually solve out those problems of your own if you are really just that willing to quit gambling for good. It would really be just that depending into your self control
and discipline towards it.
Yes. It's about your willingness since we should be the first to help ourselves. So if the gambler is really determine to overcome the addiction, it will start by changing what he used to. This includes refraining from using any gadget that can tempt from playing again. It would be best to have an activity that can divert the attention and keep oneself busy. Having someone (or a community)to talk to is always good because that's how you can get a support, but as I have said, willingness is crucial.
If they can realize it, they can solve the problem. But most people will not be able to see the way out and need help from others. That is why if someone is addicted to gambling, he needs help from others to find out and advise him to cure his gambling addiction.

Reducing the use of devices would be a good thing to do so that they can divert their attention from gambling games or using their devices. It's good to learn to control yourself by reducing your device use. At least they won't have to rely on their devices to avoid opening casino sites in their free time.

As long as you are willing to try to control yourself and learn to be disciplined, you can reduce your gambling activities. You also don't need to become addicted to gambling. And when you gamble, you don't want to gamble longer to win. And that will reduce the number of losses you will receive.

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December 31, 2023, 01:30:53 PM
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Yea, this whole "responsible gambling" marketing is a bunch of crap, because most of the sites are doing just the opposite. I have seen a site promoting that, but they refused to stop sending gambling promotions via email to gamblers that self-excluded from their site.  Angry

This is funny actually, but then, it's understandable since online gambling casino are businesses after money, they possibly have a separate system that sends any promotional emails that needs to be sent, and the fact that a gambler self exclude themselve does not necessarily mean the casino the casino wants him or her to go, most especially when the user was or is a person the casino have been making good money from.

And I would personally say that, all this casinos advertising or preaching responsible gambling are just doing it to fulfill all righteousness, or should I say, abide to the rules given to them by their license authority.
Aside this, not very many casinos truly care for the state of their customers as long as the casino is making money.

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Thank you for posting the URL, I will bookmark it and then send it to people that reach out for help on social media. Gambling addiction is not something to you can tackle on your own.. you need a support system.  Sad

Like I would say, or respond to comments like this, it very much depends on the level of addiction the player or gambler have gotten to, gambling addiction are of different levels. If the addiction is still at its early stage, it's very possible for the addict to help him or her self, but still not a bad thing to hang around a community though, as long as it doesn't cost the person much, and it's also for the greater good.

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December 31, 2023, 02:54:34 PM
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Yea, this whole "responsible gambling" marketing is a bunch of crap, because most of the sites are doing just the opposite. I have seen a site promoting that, but they refused to stop sending gambling promotions via email to gamblers that self-excluded from their site.  Angry

Thank you for posting the URL, I will bookmark it and then send it to people that reach out for help on social media. Gambling addiction is not something to you can tackle on your own.. you need a support system.  Sad


Hmm, I still doubt any support system can make our gambling problems go away. Well if someone is too addicted to it and only drifting towards the losses. For those who understand the systematic investment plans this is never an issue for anyone. I am into gambling since 7-8 years. Initial years I have spent gambling in william hills and corral outlets. Then the online gambling sites started rolling out when I was highly active in the crypto sphere. Basically bitcointalk introduced me to these gambling sites but I never got addicted because I always have clear mind, when to start and when to stop. Most of them look for easy money and thats where everything goes into direction. Its always better to slide into casino with tight budget and leave it as soon as thats exhausted or if there is some profit from it. Smiley
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December 31, 2023, 05:57:55 PM
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....(Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)


You are indeed doing a great job with the help for gamblers and the provison for assistance to gamblers and addicts should be encouraged at a global scale rather than just an individual effort.

UNFORTUNATELY, people still write about the ills and dangers of tobacco and get more people smoking it. I've never seen "Tobacco smoking is dangerous to your health" and still get loads of people buying and smoking it while reading it off the packs.


It baffling to see that in most cases with smokers getting smoke even with all the health implications and the warnings on the packs of those cigarettes, The same it is true with gambling,  despite the efforts put in place to get people away from gambling,  some still fall back to it because of it available access at all cost.
However, having an initiative from a third that helps addicts to get out of the addiction at some point.
So for that, I also commend this platform for putting up something as helpful as this service and I know with time, we are going to be seeing a lot of positive results from this platform and initiatives in the long run, but it going to actually take time for that to happen since the reflection of this kind of service always come at a much later stage but surely we are going to be seeing alot of that positive energy from the community to support and work with this ops projects.

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December 31, 2023, 06:09:11 PM
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Hmm, I still doubt any support system can make our gambling problems go away. Well if someone is too addicted to it and only drifting towards the losses. For those who understand the systematic investment plans this is never an issue for anyone. I am into gambling since 7-8 years. Initial years I have spent gambling in william hills and corral outlets. Then the online gambling sites started rolling out when I was highly active in the crypto sphere. Basically bitcointalk introduced me to these gambling sites but I never got addicted because I always have clear mind, when to start and when to stop. Most of them look for easy money and thats where everything goes into direction. Its always better to slide into casino with tight budget and leave it as soon as thats exhausted or if there is some profit from it. Smiley

I really want to know if this platform of QuitGamble has been able to cure people's gambling addictions or can make them a responsible gambler ?
The site has been operational for quite some time and we need to have some stats as how effective is this approach.

However, i do believe that in order to cure gambling addiction one needs to have a mentor who has very close attention to the gambling addict.
Only a continuous follow-up and careful meditation, a gambling addict can be cured and become a normal ordinary gambler. Addiction can be because one needs to recover his losses and the other one maybe to get even more profits (in case the gambler is in winning mode and earning ).

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January 01, 2024, 11:22:23 AM
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That's a good advice. Indeed, gambling addicts can't think of anything but gambling all the time. Thinking of what you really want to do in life can open your eyes and see that you are heading to addiction if you continue this way.
Addiction is likened to madness, it is until a madman knows that he is mad that he will be healed, the same thing goes for addictions, especially in gambling. Gambling addiction is bad, but unfortunately, it takes a whole long time for this to occur to many addicted people, they would have wasted money, energy and time on it and all that they will be thinking about is betting and getting to try their luck in it. For some of these people, it's mere fun, and to this category, it might be minimal since they might be wise enough not to use big money for it. Yet, if too consistent, money would be wasted. To them, they are enjoying their hobby, but there is nothing you do too much which takes more of your time and never without a good thing to show for it that is good.

A responsible gambler must moderate things so that they will not affect their personal lives. This category is lessened in effect, yet, no one should be addicted to gambling, it is bad, and if it doesn't take money, it takes another thing, or both. However, the worst category is the ones that would believe they can make their life's fortune in gambling, but instead, wasting money repeatedly and continue to do so for they believe they can make the money eventually through it. In most cases, the money will never come, but this would have attached to their minds and it goes on like that until they eventually realize their mistakes or find help.

The biggest mistake is to think that if you've lost your bets many times in a row, the big win will come soon. I myself lost a lot of money because of that thinking. I mean, I know it doesn't matter how many bets I've lost previously, in future I'm not guaranteed anything because of that, and yet I keep betting with the hope to win something big soon. Fortunately, there were not many such cases and I'm not broke because of that, but I'd prefer to never have them.

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January 01, 2024, 06:41:39 PM
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....(Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)


You are indeed doing a great job with the help for gamblers and the provison for assistance to gamblers and addicts should be encouraged at a global scale rather than just an individual effort.

UNFORTUNATELY, people still write about the ills and dangers of tobacco and get more people smoking it. I've never seen "Tobacco smoking is dangerous to your health" and still get loads of people buying and smoking it while reading it off the packs.


It baffling to see that in most cases with smokers getting smoke even with all the health implications and the warnings on the packs of those cigarettes, The same it is true with gambling,  despite the efforts put in place to get people away from gambling,  some still fall back to it because of it available access at all cost.
However, having an initiative from a third that helps addicts to get out of the addiction at some point.
So for that, I also commend this platform for putting up something as helpful as this service and I know with time, we are going to be seeing a lot of positive results from this platform and initiatives in the long run, but it going to actually take time for that to happen since the reflection of this kind of service always come at a much later stage but surely we are going to be seeing alot of that positive energy from the community to support and work with this ops projects.

Exactly my point, you get stern warnings about the dangers of a particular commodity and you still ingest this commodity or product knowing that it is dangerous and harmful to your health or surrounding environment.

This is not just with tobacco, it is also with hard drugs, people still use it irrespective. They see the harm it causes to users and then those who want to quit, they see down syndrome those people are stuck with and they still indulge, I'm perplexed.

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January 01, 2024, 10:00:13 PM
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....(Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)


You are indeed doing a great job with the help for gamblers and the provison for assistance to gamblers and addicts should be encouraged at a global scale rather than just an individual effort.

UNFORTUNATELY, people still write about the ills and dangers of tobacco and get more people smoking it. Ever seen "Tobacco smoking is dangerous to your health" and still get loads of people buying and smoking it while reading it off the packs.

Anything that we are doing and such requires a complete attention from us, then it also deserves our best of effort in doing it, for us to use our money into gamble, i believe that we should try as much as possible to ensure complete avoidance of drinking while gambling, it's not about us getting the gambling wrong, but it's something that took away our integrity each time we are drunk gambling and we loose on reputation.



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January 03, 2024, 01:51:07 AM
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....(Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)


You are indeed doing a great job with the help for gamblers and the provison for assistance to gamblers and addicts should be encouraged at a global scale rather than just an individual effort.

UNFORTUNATELY, people still write about the ills and dangers of tobacco and get more people smoking it. Ever seen "Tobacco smoking is dangerous to your health" and still get loads of people buying and smoking it while reading it off the packs.

Anything that we are doing and such requires a complete attention from us, then it also deserves our best of effort in doing it, for us to use our money into gamble, i believe that we should try as much as possible to ensure complete avoidance of drinking while gambling, it's not about us getting the gambling wrong, but it's something that took away our integrity each time we are drunk gambling and we loose on reputation.
Well, when alcohol is abused it can have many consequences and this can cause discomfort in the game for many and for some people it can also cause discomfort because no one likes to read with drunks, and even less so in a place like a casino, although many casino already has a basis that they do not allow people who are in that state of intoxication, because they are usually people who we do not know how their reactions will be, therefore they must be evicted immediately because it is something that is not safe for them or for others, there is also Some people put on embarrassing shows, and that's what no one wants to see, even if it's a drunk in a casino and something frowned upon, we, as coherent people, know if there is someone or if it's a bad drink, then you shouldn't drink, no. You must do something that tarnishes good entertainment, it is something that should not be allowed to be done, and as you say, it is also about protecting the person's reputation, it is unpleasant to see a person in that state.

Therefore, as we are people who do everything possible to have a Better image, we have to avoid that type of embarrassing events, now if it is a person who Controls his drinking and what he spends , but he can play and drink Socially even certain point , that it is not something that is going wrong , but that it looks elegant, and it is seen as a normal behavior of a person who Knows what to do and how to act in situations like these, this is what is sought, so that You can have all the best behavior in a casino , of course this only happens in traditional casinos , in casinos that are online you can do whatever you want at home , if you want to drink while playing you can do it, you are at home, if you If he gets drunk because he is at home, he will not bother anyone, and it is something normal , because it does not disturb the mood of others nor will it put them in a bad position by seeing embarrassing and Inappropriate acts when the person does not know how to drink Alcohol.

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January 03, 2024, 02:38:58 AM
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....(Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)


You are indeed doing a great job with the help for gamblers and the provison for assistance to gamblers and addicts should be encouraged at a global scale rather than just an individual effort.

UNFORTUNATELY, people still write about the ills and dangers of tobacco and get more people smoking it. Ever seen "Tobacco smoking is dangerous to your health" and still get loads of people buying and smoking it while reading it off the packs.

Anything that we are doing and such requires a complete attention from us, then it also deserves our best of effort in doing it, for us to use our money into gamble, i believe that we should try as much as possible to ensure complete avoidance of drinking while gambling, it's not about us getting the gambling wrong, but it's something that took away our integrity each time we are drunk gambling and we loose on reputation.

I mean. It is not a secret that the point of getting drinks to gamblers in the casino while they wager is to get rid of more of their inhibitions. It does not only works with money or gambling, it also works for people to better socialize and forget about their problems, that is the reason you can find shy people who act in a very different manner when they start to drink alcohol. It has happened to me personally.

Anyways, back to gambling and money. If we depart from the fact gambling is supposed to be a recreational activity and one should never step into a casino with more money than one is willing to lose, then I do not see much problem when comes to drinking alcohol while gambling, provably the average gamblers would have lost the enterity of their budget regardless they were drinking or not. A different situation would be to step into a casino and drinki while one has access to credit cards, much cash or valuable objects, in the worst case scenario, one could wake up in the next morning with debt and without the valuables one had ar the previous night. There is where the actual danger or the combination of gambling and alcohol lies on.

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January 03, 2024, 03:10:45 AM
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Great initiative and hopefully you see people that have gambling problems flock your website to get your help or get help for someone, gambling problem and gambling addiction is often overlooked by some as not that bad kind of addiction but let me tell you that it's as bad as those other ones when it's ignored and not treated.
I mean. It is not a secret that the point of getting drinks to gamblers in the casino while they wager is to get rid of more of their inhibitions. It does not only works with money or gambling, it also works for people to better socialize and forget about their problems, that is the reason you can find shy people who act in a very different manner when they start to drink alcohol. It has happened to me personally.
I can attest to the inhibitions part, that's what one of my Science teacher told us back then about alcohol, that it relaxes or weakens our inhibitions and another thing that we should also remember is that alcohol doesn't change someone, it just releases the repressed personality that they've got behind their sober persona so if you have a loud personality but you're generally, you'll be a loud one when you're drunk and you're aware of it most of the time. Me supporting the claim with my experience isn't a thing that's going to make this the absolute truth though as there's no study presented and only personal account that's similar to what happened to you.
Anyways, back to gambling and money. If we depart from the fact gambling is supposed to be a recreational activity and one should never step into a casino with more money than one is willing to lose, then I do not see much problem when comes to drinking alcohol while gambling, provably the average gamblers would have lost the enterity of their budget regardless they were drinking or not. A different situation would be to step into a casino and drinki while one has access to credit cards, much cash or valuable objects, in the worst case scenario, one could wake up in the next morning with debt and without the valuables one had ar the previous night. There is where the actual danger or the combination of gambling and alcohol lies on.
The first one is what's likely to happen and it's a smart thing that an individual is like that but the second situation, it's a problem both for the casino and the individual, the reason for that is that a casino should be taking care of their players so they shouldn't allow them to get to the point of blacking out because of drunkenness and with the individual, you should've been street smart about the fact that someone's going to steal money from you if they can so it's your responsibility that you're not going to let your guard down and that you're safe with your gambling experience.

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January 03, 2024, 03:20:40 AM
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Great initiative and hopefully you see people that have gambling problems flock your website to get your help or get help for someone, gambling problem and gambling addiction is often overlooked by some as not that bad kind of addiction but let me tell you that it's as bad as those other ones when it's ignored and not treated.
I mean. It is not a secret that the point of getting drinks to gamblers in the casino while they wager is to get rid of more of their inhibitions. It does not only works with money or gambling, it also works for people to better socialize and forget about their problems, that is the reason you can find shy people who act in a very different manner when they start to drink alcohol. It has happened to me personally.
I can attest to the inhibitions part, that's what one of my Science teacher told us back then about alcohol, that it relaxes or weakens our inhibitions and another thing that we should also remember is that alcohol doesn't change someone, it just releases the repressed personality that they've got behind their sober persona so if you have a loud personality but you're generally, you'll be a loud one when you're drunk and you're aware of it most of the time. Me supporting the claim with my experience isn't a thing that's going to make this the absolute truth though as there's no study presented and only personal account that's similar to what happened to you.
Anyways, back to gambling and money. If we depart from the fact gambling is supposed to be a recreational activity and one should never step into a casino with more money than one is willing to lose, then I do not see much problem when comes to drinking alcohol while gambling, provably the average gamblers would have lost the enterity of their budget regardless they were drinking or not. A different situation would be to step into a casino and drinki while one has access to credit cards, much cash or valuable objects, in the worst case scenario, one could wake up in the next morning with debt and without the valuables one had ar the previous night. There is where the actual danger or the combination of gambling and alcohol lies on.
The first one is what's likely to happen and it's a smart thing that an individual is like that but the second situation, it's a problem both for the casino and the individual, the reason for that is that a casino should be taking care of their players so they shouldn't allow them to get to the point of blacking out because of drunkenness and with the individual, you should've been street smart about the fact that someone's going to steal money from you if they can so it's your responsibility that you're not going to let your guard down and that you're safe with your gambling experience.

Yes, alcohol is so good getting rid of inhibitions that there is a common and popular saying about how drunk people usually do not lie, and only speak what they actually believe, I have myself dealt with drunk people who have said things which would not otherwise.
Also, here in my country we have two different words for what people in USA and English speaking countries would call a "blackout". The first one refers to when someone is intoxicated enough to be able to perform basic things, like walking, speaking and holding objects in their hands, but they wont recall what they did when they wake up next morning, because of the effects of the alcohol. The second one means someones literally passing out while drinking, falling on the floor.
During the first one, a gambler does not recognize what is doing or is not aware of the consequences, since they have not yet fallen on the floor they could continue to gamble or even offer their credit card to the cashier of the casino for them to continue to give him chips as much/long as possible.

It makes me question what they protocols are for casinos to handle those situations, If I had to guess, I would assume they would allow people in that state to gamble as much as if they were sober. What do you think?

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January 03, 2024, 07:20:38 AM
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....(Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)


You are indeed doing a great job with the help for gamblers and the provison for assistance to gamblers and addicts should be encouraged at a global scale rather than just an individual effort.

UNFORTUNATELY, people still write about the ills and dangers of tobacco and get more people smoking it. Ever seen "Tobacco smoking is dangerous to your health" and still get loads of people buying and smoking it while reading it off the packs.

Anything that we are doing and such requires a complete attention from us, then it also deserves our best of effort in doing it, for us to use our money into gamble, i believe that we should try as much as possible to ensure complete avoidance of drinking while gambling, it's not about us getting the gambling wrong, but it's something that took away our integrity each time we are drunk gambling and we loose on reputation.
Well, this advice could be good if we are talking about the sanity of the person, so that he can be focused and careful exactly as he would have acted if not under the influence of alcohol or any stimulants. But this is not perfect advice because there are people who will do better when they drink, and as off as that seems, it is real, only that they should be moderate about the drinking. For one, drinking doesn't affect me, I continue to live my life towards the positive side, and one thing again about me is that, when I drink, I get more serious and conscious because I know that drinking could impair my thoughts, so I become extra careful than the usual. I encourage it at times to lift up the spirit if one is dull, this could brighten the decision-making at times, to say the least.

I don't know if you have met some people who do not do anything creative or productive until they are under the influence (not excessively). I don't encourage that but it happens because I know some of them, and I don't expect them to do this in such a way that it will be abused but in a moderate way to keep themselves alert if it is working for them. I hope you get this, and it is not a way to support it but instead of entirely discouraging an act of drinking, just a way to say that what some people think is bad might not entirely be bad for others. Only that we should discover ourselves and know what works for us.

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January 07, 2024, 02:55:55 PM
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It makes me question what they protocols are for casinos to handle those situations, If I had to guess, I would assume they would allow people in that state to gamble as much as if they were sober. What do you think?

Even in some movies people under heavy influence of alcohol are asked to leave by staff or the casino owners. I'm sure there are such casinos in real life too because not everyone is a cheater, and allowing people in that state to gamble is very close to cheating, to be honest. I don't mean drunk people are less lucky or something like that, but in that state they are prone to risk more. They can go all-in when the chance of winning is less than 1%, or they go all-in when the chance of winning is 50%, while when you sober you know that you shouldn't go all-in in any case.

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It makes me question what they protocols are for casinos to handle those situations, If I had to guess, I would assume they would allow people in that state to gamble as much as if they were sober. What do you think?

Even in some movies people under heavy influence of alcohol are asked to leave by staff or the casino owners. I'm sure there are such casinos in real life too because not everyone is a cheater, and allowing people in that state to gamble is very close to cheating, to be honest. I don't mean drunk people are less lucky or something like that, but in that state they are prone to risk more. They can go all-in when the chance of winning is less than 1%, or they go all-in when the chance of winning is 50%, while when you sober you know that you shouldn't go all-in in any case.
Really not that recommended on playing gambling when you are drunk or under the influence of alcohol on which we know that decision making and self awareness is really that not good on this time or moment on which you are really that prone into those all-in kind of behavior because you just dont really care on what are the things that could happen.You would really be just that only to be able to feel up those consequences on the time that you had just already make yourself recover or fine. Gambling problems do really start on someones own actions because if you do make yourself that too delusional towards your gambling dealing or involvement then this is where problems do commonly start and this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place.

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January 07, 2024, 11:57:29 PM
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It makes me question what they protocols are for casinos to handle those situations, If I had to guess, I would assume they would allow people in that state to gamble as much as if they were sober. What do you think?

Even in some movies people under heavy influence of alcohol are asked to leave by staff or the casino owners. I'm sure there are such casinos in real life too because not everyone is a cheater, and allowing people in that state to gamble is very close to cheating, to be honest. I don't mean drunk people are less lucky or something like that, but in that state they are prone to risk more. They can go all-in when the chance of winning is less than 1%, or they go all-in when the chance of winning is 50%, while when you sober you know that you shouldn't go all-in in any case.

What you say is reasonable, but kicking someone out a casino because of drunkenness can be very subjective for the staff in that shift to evaluate. What would be the criteria used for them to tell someone is not supposed to continue to gamble? Are they supposed to only tell them to leave when they start to act out or misbehave? Or perhaps the staff is tasked to keep a count on the number of beers and cock tales the drinking gamblers are having, so they can deny them further service when the line/limit is crossed?

Because if someone starts to be a bother after a couple of beers at the same time there could be someone even more drunk but remains quiet as continues to gamble more money. It would be interesting to know what the official protocol for these situations are.

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January 09, 2024, 04:58:43 AM
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Really not that recommended on playing gambling when you are drunk or under the influence of alcohol on which we know that decision making and self awareness is really that not good on this time or moment on which you are really that prone into those all-in kind of behavior because you just dont really care on what are the things that could happen.You would really be just that only to be able to feel up those consequences on the time that you had just already make yourself recover or fine. Gambling problems do really start on someones own actions because if you do make yourself that too delusional towards your gambling dealing or involvement then this is where problems do commonly start and this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place.
Those that have an addiction very rarely stop at one addiction and instead accumulate several during their lives, so someone that has some issues gambling could easily develop an alcohol problem, as gamblers that make big bets at a psychical casino often receive free drinks and other perks, so after a bad session they may begin to drink to forget everything that happened, a behavior that can easily lead them to abuse alcohol or other substances as well.
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January 09, 2024, 05:48:18 AM
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Really not that recommended on playing gambling when you are drunk or under the influence of alcohol on which we know that decision making and self awareness is really that not good on this time or moment on which you are really that prone into those all-in kind of behavior because you just dont really care on what are the things that could happen.You would really be just that only to be able to feel up those consequences on the time that you had just already make yourself recover or fine. Gambling problems do really start on someones own actions because if you do make yourself that too delusional towards your gambling dealing or involvement then this is where problems do commonly start and this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place.
Those that have an addiction very rarely stop at one addiction and instead accumulate several during their lives, so someone that has some issues gambling could easily develop an alcohol problem, as gamblers that make big bets at a psychical casino often receive free drinks and other perks, so after a bad session they may begin to drink to forget everything that happened, a behavior that can easily lead them to abuse alcohol or other substances as well.
All vices are interconnected , either a drinker combined with smoking , Gambler and drinker ,
drinker and womanizer and even connected to drugs , so it is very rare that  a gambler only stick to that
habit because for sure this is accommodated with other vices so stopping is really not that easy.
many says it can be stopped easily but those are the people that never experienced the
what we called addiction instead they are just a normal gambler.

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January 10, 2024, 07:56:39 AM
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Really not that recommended on playing gambling when you are drunk or under the influence of alcohol on which we know that decision making and self awareness is really that not good on this time or moment on which you are really that prone into those all-in kind of behavior because you just dont really care on what are the things that could happen.You would really be just that only to be able to feel up those consequences on the time that you had just already make yourself recover or fine. Gambling problems do really start on someones own actions because if you do make yourself that too delusional towards your gambling dealing or involvement then this is where problems do commonly start and this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place.
Those that have an addiction very rarely stop at one addiction and instead accumulate several during their lives, so someone that has some issues gambling could easily develop an alcohol problem, as gamblers that make big bets at a psychical casino often receive free drinks and other perks, so after a bad session they may begin to drink to forget everything that happened, a behavior that can easily lead them to abuse alcohol or other substances as well.
All vices are interconnected , either a drinker combined with smoking , Gambler and drinker ,
drinker and womanizer and even connected to drugs , so it is very rare that  a gambler only stick to that
habit because for sure this is accommodated with other vices so stopping is really not that easy.
many says it can be stopped easily but those are the people that never experienced the
what we called addiction instead they are just a normal gambler.
And such a fate for people who take the path of vicious passions is probably initially inherent in human nature itself. 
And if in his family there were alcoholics or gambling addicts in the past, then this person’s life path may well reproduce the example of his parents.  In my opinion, the influence of the family and the upbringing of a child from the earliest years in this family is decisive in the future fate of a person and his hobbies, which can develop into vicious passions, such as gambling addiction.  But apparently there are cases when even in a prosperous family, a child, becoming an adult, turns into a gambler at the stage of mental illness.  But apparently this happens much less often when compared with dysfunctional families.

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January 10, 2024, 12:24:46 PM
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Because if someone starts to be a bother after a couple of beers at the same time there could be someone even more drunk but remains quiet as continues to gamble more money. It would be interesting to know what the official protocol for these situations are.

Casinos may have terms and policies which don't allow them to let a too drunken or intoxicated gambler play at their casino.
They have employees/staff to see and figure out intoxicated gambler by seeing like walking, speech, control and coordination, etc.
I found this site about this information but I don't know that casinos also have these types of rules or not.
https://www.business.qld.gov.au/industries/hospitality-tourism-sport/liquor-gaming/liquor/training/rsa/refresher/unduly-intoxicated/penalties
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January 10, 2024, 10:28:20 PM
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Really not that recommended on playing gambling when you are drunk or under the influence of alcohol on which we know that decision making and self awareness is really that not good on this time or moment on which you are really that prone into those all-in kind of behavior because you just dont really care on what are the things that could happen.You would really be just that only to be able to feel up those consequences on the time that you had just already make yourself recover or fine. Gambling problems do really start on someones own actions because if you do make yourself that too delusional towards your gambling dealing or involvement then this is where problems do commonly start and this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place.
Those that have an addiction very rarely stop at one addiction and instead accumulate several during their lives, so someone that has some issues gambling could easily develop an alcohol problem, as gamblers that make big bets at a psychical casino often receive free drinks and other perks, so after a bad session they may begin to drink to forget everything that happened, a behavior that can easily lead them to abuse alcohol or other substances as well.
I agre with that, because addiction is a chain ⛓️ and is very easy for anyone who is addicted to gambling to freely slide into alcohol abuse also because the chain will easily connect and just as you said that alcohol is what is readily available in most casinos it easy to abuse such substance in those kind of places.

Just like those who drinks, the easily womanize and also smokes this things is a chain and it goes mostly together, breaking free from those addiction is one of a though decision that requires full attendance to things that matters as far as that change is concern.
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January 10, 2024, 10:53:43 PM
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Really not that recommended on playing gambling when you are drunk or under the influence of alcohol on which we know that decision making and self awareness is really that not good on this time or moment on which you are really that prone into those all-in kind of behavior because you just dont really care on what are the things that could happen.You would really be just that only to be able to feel up those consequences on the time that you had just already make yourself recover or fine. Gambling problems do really start on someones own actions because if you do make yourself that too delusional towards your gambling dealing or involvement then this is where problems do commonly start and this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place.
Those that have an addiction very rarely stop at one addiction and instead accumulate several during their lives, so someone that has some issues gambling could easily develop an alcohol problem, as gamblers that make big bets at a psychical casino often receive free drinks and other perks, so after a bad session they may begin to drink to forget everything that happened, a behavior that can easily lead them to abuse alcohol or other substances as well.
All vices are interconnected , either a drinker combined with smoking , Gambler and drinker ,
drinker and womanizer and even connected to drugs , so it is very rare that  a gambler only stick to that
habit because for sure this is accommodated with other vices so stopping is really not that easy.
many says it can be stopped easily but those are the people that never experienced the
what we called addiction instead they are just a normal gambler.
And such a fate for people who take the path of vicious passions is probably initially inherent in human nature itself. 
And if in his family there were alcoholics or gambling addicts in the past, then this person’s life path may well reproduce the example of his parents.  In my opinion, the influence of the family and the upbringing of a child from the earliest years in this family is decisive in the future fate of a person and his hobbies, which can develop into vicious passions, such as gambling addiction.  But apparently there are cases when even in a prosperous family, a child, becoming an adult, turns into a gambler at the stage of mental illness.  But apparently this happens much less often when compared with dysfunctional families.
I dont believe that this something that could be inherit.Yes, probabilities on doing the same stuff is likely but not all the times yet there were people who are really that mindful when it comes to things that they are dealing with on which even if they have seen that their parents are doing gambling but doesnt mean that they wouidb become gamblers too on which it would really be just that understandable that this would really be that situational because non all would really be that having that kind of impulsive approach when it comes to gambling. Some might really be that
getting addicted through influence but this is surely not something that would really be that can be inherited. It would be always depending into your owo choice
on what are the things that you would gonna do.

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January 10, 2024, 11:53:23 PM
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Casinos may have terms and policies which don't allow them to let a too drunken or intoxicated gambler play at their casino.
They have employees/staff to see and figure out intoxicated gambler by seeing like walking, speech, control and coordination, etc.
I found this site about this information but I don't know that casinos also have these types of rules or not.
https://www.business.qld.gov.au/industries/hospitality-tourism-sport/liquor-gaming/liquor/training/rsa/refresher/unduly-intoxicated/penalties
Most of them have.

They have ways to measure someone's intoxication and that's why it is important that they should check people if there are complaints being sent to them.

But if there's none, then all are good to keep on gambling and that's the reason why many have find it better to gamble physically than to just stay at their homes gambling online.

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January 11, 2024, 08:08:58 AM
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Really not that recommended on playing gambling when you are drunk or under the influence of alcohol on which we know that decision making and self awareness is really that not good on this time or moment on which you are really that prone into those all-in kind of behavior because you just dont really care on what are the things that could happen.You would really be just that only to be able to feel up those consequences on the time that you had just already make yourself recover or fine. Gambling problems do really start on someones own actions because if you do make yourself that too delusional towards your gambling dealing or involvement then this is where problems do commonly start and this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place.
Those that have an addiction very rarely stop at one addiction and instead accumulate several during their lives, so someone that has some issues gambling could easily develop an alcohol problem, as gamblers that make big bets at a psychical casino often receive free drinks and other perks, so after a bad session they may begin to drink to forget everything that happened, a behavior that can easily lead them to abuse alcohol or other substances as well.
Alcohol problem? That is huge. I do not think it should get to this level at all, we should know how to handle this and not let it affect our psychology to the end that we will be alcohol addicted simply because we are gambling. If truly gamblers could resort to alcohol foolishly, that means that they could resort to drugs as well, which makes it bad. You see, people should try to understand gambling and the risk involved before they engage in it as it might be the end of their sanity, especially if they poorly attribute the solution of their gambling to stimulants.

What would stimultes do? Will they make you feel better or win? Both are not possible and if you feel better at first, won't you get back to the realization when you are back to your senses? That is why we should shun it from the beginning before it aggravates to what we can't control. If we lose, let us admit and move on, and if we win, let us be happy and celebrate minimally because we never can tell what will happen the next day. So, anything that calls for excessive excitement or unhappiness should be avoided so that we can ever preserve our sanity as we gamble, and we should gamble with a neutral mind. The issue of management matters too, we should gamble with the right amount of money and we should define the reason for our gambling and always have the plans that will never affect us severely.

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Really not that recommended on playing gambling when you are drunk or under the influence of alcohol on which we know that decision making and self awareness is really that not good on this time or moment on which you are really that prone into those all-in kind of behavior because you just dont really care on what are the things that could happen.You would really be just that only to be able to feel up those consequences on the time that you had just already make yourself recover or fine. Gambling problems do really start on someones own actions because if you do make yourself that too delusional towards your gambling dealing or involvement then this is where problems do commonly start and this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place.
Those that have an addiction very rarely stop at one addiction and instead accumulate several during their lives, so someone that has some issues gambling could easily develop an alcohol problem, as gamblers that make big bets at a psychical casino often receive free drinks and other perks, so after a bad session they may begin to drink to forget everything that happened, a behavior that can easily lead them to abuse alcohol or other substances as well.
All vices are interconnected , either a drinker combined with smoking , Gambler and drinker ,
drinker and womanizer and even connected to drugs , so it is very rare that  a gambler only stick to that
habit because for sure this is accommodated with other vices so stopping is really not that easy.
many says it can be stopped easily but those are the people that never experienced the
what we called addiction instead they are just a normal gambler.
And such a fate for people who take the path of vicious passions is probably initially inherent in human nature itself. 
And if in his family there were alcoholics or gambling addicts in the past, then this person’s life path may well reproduce the example of his parents.  In my opinion, the influence of the family and the upbringing of a child from the earliest years in this family is decisive in the future fate of a person and his hobbies, which can develop into vicious passions, such as gambling addiction.  But apparently there are cases when even in a prosperous family, a child, becoming an adult, turns into a gambler at the stage of mental illness.  But apparently this happens much less often when compared with dysfunctional families.
I dont believe that this something that could be inherit.Yes, probabilities on doing the same stuff is likely but not all the times yet there were people who are really that mindful when it comes to things that they are dealing with on which even if they have seen that their parents are doing gambling but doesnt mean that they wouidb become gamblers too on which it would really be just that understandable that this would really be that situational because non all would really be that having that kind of impulsive approach when it comes to gambling. Some might really be that
getting addicted through influence but this is surely not something that would really be that can be inherited. It would be always depending into your owo choice
on what are the things that you would gonna do.
When we are talking about a specific family, it is indeed not at all necessary that the children of parents, one of whom, as a rule, the father, of course, was an excessive gambler, practically suffering from gambling addiction, will follow in the footsteps of their father.  And such a child, when he grows up, will not necessarily be interested in gambling either. 

But if we are talking about the average statistical data on millions of families in which the parents were addicted gamblers, then the statistics will be completely disappointing.  In percentage terms, there will clearly be more children in such families who are prone to gambling and those who actually become gambling addicts at the stage of the disease.

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January 11, 2024, 09:35:41 AM
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What you say is reasonable, but kicking someone out a casino because of drunkenness can be very subjective for the staff in that shift to evaluate. What would be the criteria used for them to tell someone is not supposed to continue to gamble? Are they supposed to only tell them to leave when they start to act out or misbehave? Or perhaps the staff is tasked to keep a count on the number of beers and cock tales the drinking gamblers are having, so they can deny them further service when the line/limit is crossed?

Because if someone starts to be a bother after a couple of beers at the same time there could be someone even more drunk but remains quiet as continues to gamble more money. It would be interesting to know what the official protocol for these situations are.
That depends on the level of the drunkenness, if that person is drunk but still able to communicate properly then it's not really that big of a deal to let that person stay for a little while in the casino but any attempts for that person to gain access to alcoholic beverages should be barred or prevented to hopefully make sure that the drunk person wouldn't go to a higher level of inebriation which will likely involve violence so you're right that it's subjective and that there's no way that we can just outright kick them out, remember that drunk casino gamblers are most likely to spend more money than they should so it's a matter of balancing act on whether you should kick them out or letting them stay. Maybe someone in this forum reach out to casino managers and see how they're managing this type of situation.



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January 11, 2024, 08:54:10 PM
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What you say is reasonable, but kicking someone out a casino because of drunkenness can be very subjective for the staff in that shift to evaluate. What would be the criteria used for them to tell someone is not supposed to continue to gamble? Are they supposed to only tell them to leave when they start to act out or misbehave? Or perhaps the staff is tasked to keep a count on the number of beers and cock tales the drinking gamblers are having, so they can deny them further service when the line/limit is crossed?

Because if someone starts to be a bother after a couple of beers at the same time there could be someone even more drunk but remains quiet as continues to gamble more money. It would be interesting to know what the official protocol for these situations are.
That depends on the level of the drunkenness, if that person is drunk but still able to communicate properly then it's not really that big of a deal to let that person stay for a little while in the casino but any attempts for that person to gain access to alcoholic beverages should be barred or prevented to hopefully make sure that the drunk person wouldn't go to a higher level of inebriation which will likely involve violence so you're right that it's subjective and that there's no way that we can just outright kick them out, remember that drunk casino gamblers are most likely to spend more money than they should so it's a matter of balancing act on whether you should kick them out or letting them stay. Maybe someone in this forum reach out to casino managers and see how they're managing this type of situation.

It is subjective, yes. But it could be otherwise if casinos decided to implement some sensors or ways to quantify the concentration of alcohol in the blood of the gambler. You know, like those instruments which are used by law enforcement officers to know whether someone is above the legal limit of alcohol in blood or not.
Though, it would be weird to see some bartenders in casinos using those on gambler whom they suspect to be above the limit.

Anyways, I believe most people who visit a casino should be already aware of their limit when comes to alcohol consumption and do not go beyond it because they are visiting a casino in Las Vegas. That is what many tourist do, they get above their natural limit of alcohol, misbehave and then next morning they have to deal with the consequences of the crazy stuff done. I could not be able to enjoy a night in a casino in such state, to be honest.

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The question that keeps coming up in my mind is, do addicts change if they are not willing to change?


Because the best way to beat an addiction is for the individual to first accept the need to beat it in the first place, and also accept the fact that,  his personal motivation to quit is what most needed to fight and defeat addictions,  and some addicts who have failed multiple times to beat addictions are all those who have nog 100% make up their mind to quit the addictions in the first place, so is very important to first of all know what is the state of mind of the individual before we try to help them in any ways.


This service is very important to the society and I have some like society here in my locality who are social workers who are taking care of those with mental health conditions.

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January 11, 2024, 11:27:36 PM
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Because if someone starts to be a bother after a couple of beers at the same time there could be someone even more drunk but remains quiet as continues to gamble more money. It would be interesting to know what the official protocol for these situations are.

Casinos may have terms and policies which don't allow them to let a too drunken or intoxicated gambler play at their casino.
They have employees/staff to see and figure out intoxicated gambler by seeing like walking, speech, control and coordination, etc.
I found this site about this information but I don't know that casinos also have these types of rules or not.
https://www.business.qld.gov.au/industries/hospitality-tourism-sport/liquor-gaming/liquor/training/rsa/refresher/unduly-intoxicated/penalties

As much as this may be true, it is not the case with every casion, at least the ones that don't care about what you are stuck with, they just want to get the funds off you and then to the next.

We must ensure that all of the mentioned must be regulated and integreated into casinos so it becomes a more coordinated arena for people to thrive if we must help gamblers.

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January 12, 2024, 07:51:14 AM
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Because if someone starts to be a bother after a couple of beers at the same time there could be someone even more drunk but remains quiet as continues to gamble more money. It would be interesting to know what the official protocol for these situations are.

Casinos may have terms and policies which don't allow them to let a too drunken or intoxicated gambler play at their casino.
They have employees/staff to see and figure out intoxicated gambler by seeing like walking, speech, control and coordination, etc.
I found this site about this information but I don't know that casinos also have these types of rules or not.
https://www.business.qld.gov.au/industries/hospitality-tourism-sport/liquor-gaming/liquor/training/rsa/refresher/unduly-intoxicated/penalties

As much as this may be true, it is not the case with every casion, at least the ones that don't care about what you are stuck with, they just want to get the funds off you and then to the next.

We must ensure that all of the mentioned must be regulated and integreated into casinos so it becomes a more coordinated arena for people to thrive if we must help gamblers.
I don't even know what to say as to what some guys could think or believe in, even some government officials inclusive. So he meant a casino would have a rule that bans intoxicants on their premises? I do not ever believe that is possible in the whole world. So far it is not an illegal drug, I think they are good to go. Alcohol is permitted almost everywhere in the world, will the casino continue to smell the mouths of their customers to know whether they have taken alcohol or be testing their blood and urine to ensure that they are drug-free? I think this is just baseless, and no matter what, it can't be complied with as this is beyond the physical look and behaviours, it is chemical that needs the study of the physiology of the bettor in question.

This can't be cost-effective and it is even a diversion from the core purpose to which the gambling house is doing its business. Maybe they (the government) will set up a taskforce in every casino to ensure this, but if not, the government can never get this achieved for whatsoever reason they might want it. It is only best to educate people about this addiction to gambling, especially gambling and taking alcohol/drugs, sensitisation and curbing the menace from the root is the best here, not such policy posted by the guy you reply to.

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January 12, 2024, 02:26:46 PM
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Because if someone starts to be a bother after a couple of beers at the same time there could be someone even more drunk but remains quiet as continues to gamble more money. It would be interesting to know what the official protocol for these situations are.

Casinos may have terms and policies which don't allow them to let a too drunken or intoxicated gambler play at their casino.
They have employees/staff to see and figure out intoxicated gambler by seeing like walking, speech, control and coordination, etc.
I found this site about this information but I don't know that casinos also have these types of rules or not.
https://www.business.qld.gov.au/industries/hospitality-tourism-sport/liquor-gaming/liquor/training/rsa/refresher/unduly-intoxicated/penalties

As much as this may be true, it is not the case with every casion, at least the ones that don't care about what you are stuck with, they just want to get the funds off you and then to the next.

We must ensure that all of the mentioned must be regulated and integreated into casinos so it becomes a more coordinated arena for people to thrive if we must help gamblers.
I don't even know what to say as to what some guys could think or believe in, even some government officials inclusive. So he meant a casino would have a rule that bans intoxicants on their premises? I do not ever believe that is possible in the whole world. So far it is not an illegal drug, I think they are good to go. Alcohol is permitted almost everywhere in the world, will the casino continue to smell the mouths of their customers to know whether they have taken alcohol or be testing their blood and urine to ensure that they are drug-free? I think this is just baseless, and no matter what, it can't be complied with as this is beyond the physical look and behaviours, it is chemical that needs the study of the physiology of the bettor in question.

This can't be cost-effective and it is even a diversion from the core purpose to which the gambling house is doing its business. Maybe they (the government) will set up a taskforce in every casino to ensure this, but if not, the government can never get this achieved for whatsoever reason they might want it. It is only best to educate people about this addiction to gambling, especially gambling and taking alcohol/drugs, sensitisation and curbing the menace from the root is the best here, not such policy posted by the guy you reply to.
In casinos that are physical, it is Obvious that alcoholic beverages exist, in fact that is a plus for the casino, because the person who is playing the more unfocused they are , the more they put money in the casino and lose it, the People are like this whenever they are in a casino and that is something that caisnos always see , Especially where I go to a casino that is like that, because the Peroans who drink and spend the most are the ones who have the most respect , and whatever the case may be,They give them special treatment, they even give them Whiskey , that's something that Surprised me, but expensive, one day I started to see why they were so exclusive with those people? because it was curious, because of course I realized that they spent a lot of money and that they did nothing but Spend and drink , so I realized that as the eproans were Affecting their alcoho l, it was as if the casnio was raiding their pockets, spending with alcohol is something that sometimes cannot be controlled, so this is something that we must see , of course we always have to see what can be done and is possible , but a person under the influence of Alcohol is something else.

When a person is Already half hooked on alcohol, he no longer cares about his money, he just wants to laugh, have a good time, and spend, he hardly gives importance to money , and that's why they make bets like that, then in reality The person is not very conscious, because the effect of alcohol sometimes takes time to get drunk and the person happily opposes it, they start doing something that they normally do not do, it is because some people are inhibited by things and they can do things that way. , that is generally always good to study, perhaps this is one of the things that can be beneficial for the cat, of course things get out of control when the employees abuse and get Drunk and then you have to get them out before they make a scandal , those things are what should be Avoided 100%.

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January 12, 2024, 02:41:41 PM
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Because if someone starts to be a bother after a couple of beers at the same time there could be someone even more drunk but remains quiet as continues to gamble more money. It would be interesting to know what the official protocol for these situations are.

Casinos may have terms and policies which don't allow them to let a too drunken or intoxicated gambler play at their casino.
They have employees/staff to see and figure out intoxicated gambler by seeing like walking, speech, control and coordination, etc.
I found this site about this information but I don't know that casinos also have these types of rules or not.
https://www.business.qld.gov.au/industries/hospitality-tourism-sport/liquor-gaming/liquor/training/rsa/refresher/unduly-intoxicated/penalties

As much as this may be true, it is not the case with every casion, at least the ones that don't care about what you are stuck with, they just want to get the funds off you and then to the next.

We must ensure that all of the mentioned must be regulated and integreated into casinos so it becomes a more coordinated arena for people to thrive if we must help gamblers.
Gambling addiction is one of the things we need to work on and ensure that we do the necessary things that would aid  us to stay feet.
Gambli6os regulated in some countries that is why people are able to be restricted from gambling especially when it is too excessive.
There are regions that have less restrictions and with that people easily become addicted and do whatsoever they want when gambling.
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January 12, 2024, 05:48:46 PM
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Gambling addiction is one of the things we need to work on and ensure that we do the necessary things that would aid  us to stay feet.
Gambli6os regulated in some countries that is why people are able to be restricted from gambling especially when it is too excessive.
There are regions that have less restrictions and with that people easily become addicted and do whatsoever they want when gambling.
Everyone wants to make profits but not everyone is going to make it for sure.

The truth is, we have to collectively address this gambling addiction as it is gradually becoming a menace to the society. The social vices we find in the society today isn't indirectly connected to all of this gambling challenges. If we address it and help gamblers out of their gambling challenges, we are also making the society a healthier place for ourselves.

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January 12, 2024, 08:33:17 PM
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If we address it and help gamblers out of their gambling challenges, we are also making the society a healthier place for ourselves.
It's a pretty hard task to eliminate gambling addiction or any kind of addiction in general from the society. Not everyone is going to be a gambling addict and in the similar way not everyone is going to be a drug addict.

We need to guide those who are already addicted to gambling and we may have to do it in a strategic way. Without a proper strategy we can't do anything to fix the addiction of those people who are already addicted to it.

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The question that keeps coming up in my mind is, do addicts change if they are not willing to change?

Anyone can change as long as they are willing, the change that is difficult to achieve is when you're enforcing them to go against their will, you won't force someone to doing what will be of advantage to him, that is people for you, except they were left with no alternative before they can made up their mind for a change.

Because the best way to beat an addiction is for the individual to first accept the need to beat it in the first place, and also accept the fact that,  his personal motivation to quit is what most needed to fight and defeat addictions, 

Every addicted fellows knows they are, but waiting for someone to tell them what they are doing is wrong, this is a lesson on us all, we don't have to wait till the bad manifest in is before we do the needful expectations from us while gambling.



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January 12, 2024, 11:32:43 PM
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Maybe I'm exaggerating in this post, but from my life experience, when people are addicted to something they need urgent help and it's not advice or tips from the internet that these people are addicted to, they need to see a doctor. psychiatrist urgently and the doctor will order that these addicted people be admitted to the psychiatric hospital so that they can begin urgent treatment. In the psychiatric center, the addicted person will have their phone and many things confiscated so that they do not have access to the things that caused their addiction, for example in the case of people addicted to alcohol and drugs, they are hospitalized in a place isolated from other people and with very limited access. restricted so that they cannot drink alcohol and cannot consume drugs

for many months they stay isolated in the clinic, so that their body is free from alcohol and drugs and their brain learns to think that it does not need alcohol and drugs, only after the psychiatrist observes that they are really no longer dependent on them. substances that are harmful to health and that the doctor releases them from the rehabilitation clinic. with people addicted to gambling things are the same, the psychiatrist places the gambling addict in a clinic isolated from people, they confiscate all the means the addict had to access the internet, then they start with psychological treatment which consists of in talking a lot with the person addicted to gambling so that they begin to see that there are many things in the real world

The psychiatrist talks to all addicts so that each of them can share their stories so that all patients realize that they are not alone and that what they have is a disease that can be cured, but that depends on their willpower. The psychiatrist provides schedules with many recreational activities for addicts, this is to make them realize that there are many things in the world for them to live and have fun without needing to keep playing, after many months without the internet and without games, people addicts are cured and leave isolation and the clinic and the real problem begins, which is that the addict is able to resist every time he sees a game and doesn't play. This is the final step to being completely healed. Tips from the internet do not cure addiction

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January 14, 2024, 01:30:02 PM
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Really not that recommended on playing gambling when you are drunk or under the influence of alcohol on which we know that decision making and self awareness is really that not good on this time or moment on which you are really that prone into those all-in kind of behavior because you just dont really care on what are the things that could happen.You would really be just that only to be able to feel up those consequences on the time that you had just already make yourself recover or fine. Gambling problems do really start on someones own actions because if you do make yourself that too delusional towards your gambling dealing or involvement then this is where problems do commonly start and this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place.

It should be the rule of every gambler: If you are under alcohol influence, never go to a casino and never open a gambling site. Yes, you can start gambling and win all of a sudden once, but later, if you keep acting like this, you will regret it big time, inevitably.

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What you say is reasonable, but kicking someone out a casino because of drunkenness can be very subjective for the staff in that shift to evaluate. What would be the criteria used for them to tell someone is not supposed to continue to gamble? Are they supposed to only tell them to leave when they start to act out or misbehave? Or perhaps the staff is tasked to keep a count on the number of beers and cock tales the drinking gamblers are having, so they can deny them further service when the line/limit is crossed?

Because if someone starts to be a bother after a couple of beers at the same time there could be someone even more drunk but remains quiet as continues to gamble more money. It would be interesting to know what the official protocol for these situations are.

I think, whether person is drunk or not is easy to spot. I'd say the policy should be like this: When in doubt - not drunk. Of course it's allowed to drink in casinos, so, not allowing a person to bet after a drink would be ridiculous.

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The question that keeps coming up in my mind is, do addicts change if they are not willing to change?
This is an excellent question. The answer is very simple which is, nobody can force you to change. To change, you must first determine in your mind that there is a need for it. When you decide to change, the process is easy as you will turn to behaviours that would help you not relapse.

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It makes me question what they protocols are for casinos to handle those situations, If I had to guess, I would assume they would allow people in that state to gamble as much as if they were sober. What do you think?
I think that anyone who exhibits obvious signs of intoxication will not be allowed to gamble because he or she may be a danger to the public or cause nuisance leading to a breech of public peace. However, the case mentioned above is very possible when the gambler is mildly intoxicated and there is no obvious signs. 

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January 14, 2024, 08:42:59 PM
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The question that keeps coming up in my mind is, do addicts change if they are not willing to change?
This is an excellent question. The answer is very simple which is, nobody can force you to change. To change, you must first determine in your mind that there is a need for it. When you decide to change, the process is easy as you will turn to behaviours that would help you not relapse.

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It makes me question what they protocols are for casinos to handle those situations, If I had to guess, I would assume they would allow people in that state to gamble as much as if they were sober. What do you think?
I think that anyone who exhibits obvious signs of intoxication will not be allowed to gamble because he or she may be a danger to the public or cause nuisance leading to a breech of public peace. However, the case mentioned above is very possible when the gambler is mildly intoxicated and there is no obvious signs. 
When it comes to security specially into those gambling places then it would really be just that standard or something in default. They could allow someone to play but on the time that they would be showing off with those acts which do pertains about being that impulsive of because of too much frustration and this is why it would really be just that normal that they would really be kicked in the venue. When it comes to those problems then it is really that common on which there are really those people who cant really just that able to control out themselves and this is why they do make out
such actions on which its not really that something right. Quitting is hard once you do get addicted but actually you could really be able to stop completely basing up on how serious you are on doing so.
It all matters on someones mind discipline and control.

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Seriously i'm amazed by this,seeing that a gambling or gambler problem can be solved.

But it doesn't make things better cause we all know everything that has a bad side,also have a good side but people will always tend to adapt to the bad ones,and that's to say they would still go on with their irresponsible pattern of gambling.

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January 15, 2024, 10:20:29 AM
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Because the best way to beat an addiction is for the individual to first accept the need to beat it in the first place, and also accept the fact that,  his personal motivation to quit is what most needed to fight and defeat addictions, 

Every addicted fellows knows they are, but waiting for someone to tell them what they are doing is wrong, this is a lesson on us all, we don't have to wait till the bad manifest in is before we do the needful expectations from us while gambling.
The average gambler is not aware that he has gone too far and is addicted to gambling, so it is not surprising that there are gambling addicts who are difficult to advise because most of them do not want to accept the reality of their life that they are addicted to gambling, although there are not many like that but on average they don't aware of it, that's why it is important for the people closest to you to remind the gambler that it is important to reduce gambling activities so that they can help slowly cure their addiction.

They as gamblers when they realize they are addicted to gambling must do something before things get bad and it is difficult to stop, gambling addiction has levels so when it reaches a difficult level, I am sure it will take a long time to cure their gambling addiction, I say this because there are many people near my house are addicted to gambling and it is difficult to recover, they play very wildly beyond limits, that's why where I live the crime rate and level of domestic violence have increased because of gambling

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January 15, 2024, 05:59:26 PM
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Because the best way to beat an addiction is for the individual to first accept the need to beat it in the first place, and also accept the fact that,  his personal motivation to quit is what most needed to fight and defeat addictions,  

Every addicted fellows knows they are, but waiting for someone to tell them what they are doing is wrong, this is a lesson on us all, we don't have to wait till the bad manifest in is before we do the needful expectations from us while gambling.
The average gambler is not aware that he has gone too far and is addicted to gambling, so it is not surprising that there are gambling addicts who are difficult to advise because most of them do not want to accept the reality of their life that they are addicted to gambling, although there are not many like that but on average they don't aware of it, that's why it is important for the people closest to you to remind the gambler that it is important to reduce gambling activities so that they can help slowly cure their addiction.

They as gamblers when they realize they are addicted to gambling must do something before things get bad and it is difficult to stop, gambling addiction has levels so when it reaches a difficult level, I am sure it will take a long time to cure their gambling addiction, I say this because there are many people near my house are addicted to gambling and it is difficult to recover, they play very wildly beyond limits, that's why where I live the crime rate and level of domestic violence have increased because of gambling
Gambling problems would definitely be starting to come out on the time that you would really be finding yourself not to be able to make out some good decisions or choices when it comes to spending.
On the time that you do become already being impulsive then you do really find these kind of actions or outcomes in regarding into your gambling dealing. Quitting is really one of the main or big challenges once you do get caught by addiction. This is why you should really be wary at least on the things that you've been doing if you dont really like to mess up yourself with gambling.
People do usually mess up their lives on the time that they would really be making bad decisions in regarding into their choices because they do really thrive and really that force up themselves
on happening on something which it cant be possible or something sustainable.

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January 21, 2024, 05:21:36 AM
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Seriously i'm amazed by this,seeing that a gambling or gambler problem can be solved.

But it doesn't make things better cause we all know everything that has a bad side,also have a good side but people will always tend to adapt to the bad ones,and that's to say they would still go on with their irresponsible pattern of gambling.
As long as a person really wants it, they can recover from an addiction no matter how pervasive, however this is not a process that happens from one day to another, since it is likely that during that period of time a great deal of issues come to the surface and the addicted will suffer many setbacks and they will go back to their former addiction several times, however if they continue to get the support of their family and the support of experts when it comes to treating their addiction, overcoming their addiction will happen at some point.
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January 21, 2024, 10:07:42 AM
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Seriously i'm amazed by this,seeing that a gambling or gambler problem can be solved.

But it doesn't make things better cause we all know everything that has a bad side,also have a good side but people will always tend to adapt to the bad ones,and that's to say they would still go on with their irresponsible pattern of gambling.
Why are you amazed here, is it about the who part of what the OP says or just a fraction reservation from your end? You should have been elaborated on your discussion since you started with a remark that looked objective to what the OP is trying to say, but unfortunately, your short response seems to be neutral in tone and still does not change anything from what we already know. But before you might be moved to add some words if so desired after my reply, I would like you to know that anyone could be healed of any gambling issues. This can only be easy if they are willing, but if they are not willing, they can still get healed but will take more time and a better approach from those who are saddled with the task to help them.

Also, irresponsible gambling is a choice, and I always advise people before choosing to gamble, this will not even cause them issues that will need external help as they would have guarded against such from the beginning. But people are so naive and also adamant, they are greedy towards the money, and hence the reason they are trapped often mentally when it comes to gambling. The same goes for healing as well, once they desire they want to be healed, they will be healed, this is a choice for everyone, especially if you know that what you are doing is not good and obviously negative to your life.

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Seriously i'm amazed by this,seeing that a gambling or gambler problem can be solved.

But it doesn't make things better cause we all know everything that has a bad side,also have a good side but people will always tend to adapt to the bad ones,and that's to say they would still go on with their irresponsible pattern of gambling.
As long as a person really wants it, they can recover from an addiction no matter how pervasive, however this is not a process that happens from one day to another, since it is likely that during that period of time a great deal of issues come to the surface and the addicted will suffer many setbacks and they will go back to their former addiction several times, however if they continue to get the support of their family and the support of experts when it comes to treating their addiction, overcoming their addiction will happen at some point.
That's right. The important thing is that gambling addicts have a strong desire to cure their gambling addiction. It may seem unreasonable, but for the gambling addict, it can still be done, especially if he gets support from his family. That would be a kind of encouragement for him to be able to cure his gambling addiction.

Indeed, he will encounter difficulties in undergoing the process of treating his gambling addiction. But if he is still able to survive with the support of his family, he will be able to undergo the healing process. And even in curing his gambling addiction, he got through it well. He could see that there was still a chance for him to get out of his gambling addiction.

He won't complain that it's hard and can still show his family that he can get through it. He will see that his family's support makes him want to return to his family immediately.

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January 22, 2024, 10:44:03 AM
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The question that keeps coming up in my mind is, do addicts change if they are not willing to change?
This is an excellent question. The answer is very simple which is, nobody can force you to change. To change, you must first determine in your mind that there is a need for it. When you decide to change, the process is easy as you will turn to behaviours that would help you not relapse.
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January 22, 2024, 11:19:02 AM
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The question that keeps coming up in my mind is, do addicts change if they are not willing to change?
This is an excellent question. The answer is very simple which is, nobody can force you to change. To change, you must first determine in your mind that there is a need for it. When you decide to change, the process is easy as you will turn to behaviours that would help you not relapse.
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This true, nobody can force you to change, but there are words, the right words, that can be said to you that will help you to come to conclusion that change is what you need. Good professionals know those words and that's why it's important to turn to them as soon as possible. Your close ones may wish you only good but they lack the knowledge of how to nudge you into taking the right steps. If someone wants to get rid of gambling addiction of their own free will, that's good, but if some doesn't have those intentions, there are still methods that can help him/her.
Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.

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January 24, 2024, 07:04:52 AM
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The average gambler is not aware that he has gone too far and is addicted to gambling, so it is not surprising that there are gambling addicts who are difficult to advise because most of them do not want to accept the reality of their life that they are addicted to gambling, although there are not many like that but on average they don't aware of it, that's why it is important for the people closest to you to remind the gambler that it is important to reduce gambling activities so that they can help slowly cure their addiction.

They as gamblers when they realize they are addicted to gambling must do something before things get bad and it is difficult to stop, gambling addiction has levels so when it reaches a difficult level, I am sure it will take a long time to cure their gambling addiction, I say this because there are many people near my house are addicted to gambling and it is difficult to recover, they play very wildly beyond limits, that's why where I live the crime rate and level of domestic violence have increased because of gambling
Really? But I think I won't believe on that because I already proved to my self that I'm aware of what I do and if I'm already addicted or not. It's only true that some won't admit it because they don't want to be scolded and then they can't afford to stop gambling for a long time or permanently. They don't know that the more the people around them will hate them if they get addicted and they won't actually be scolded if they will tell the truth.

The truth is that they are only concern to us. And there are still activities out there which can be a good alternative to gambling that we can do once we are on a therapy to cure our gambling addiction problem.

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January 29, 2024, 09:27:13 AM
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Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.

Go to the professional yourself and ask questions on your cousin's behalf. Tell him how often he gambles and how much he loses, how does he feel in general and other stuff that the pro professional will ask you about. He will make a conclusion and you'll see how severe the condition is. And then, in a relaxed atmosphere, tell about it to your cousin. Convince him to go to the professional himself. All of this might not work, but at least you'll try.

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January 30, 2024, 06:20:14 AM
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Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
Very often taking the first step is the most difficult decision by far, your cousin most likely knows he has a problem but he is in denial and refuses to admit it, because if he were to do this then he will need to begin to take actions to solve his problem, and deep down he knows that this is not going to be easy and prefers to ignore the problem hoping that it will go away on its own, an impossibility of course but that does not stop a person from wishing that it became true.
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January 30, 2024, 10:52:35 AM
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Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
If he's still in denial, maybe he thought and consider his gambling activity as normal. Sometimes if you are already in such stage, you won't notice that since you're blinded and tend to ignore others.

Anyway, he needs to have a will to change what he used to. Because no matter how hard you advice your cousin to seek for professional help, that's going to be futile if he don't cooperate.

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This true, nobody can force you to change, but there are words, the right words, that can be said to you that will help you to come to conclusion that change is what you need. Good professionals know those words and that's why it's important to turn to them as soon as possible. Your close ones may wish you only good but they lack the knowledge of how to nudge you into taking the right steps. If someone wants to get rid of gambling addiction of their own free will, that's good, but if some doesn't have those intentions, there are still methods that can help him/her.
Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
I do, I mean I can definitely see the difference as well and I understand what's wrong. Studying psychology has helped me understand getting some perspective into peoples emotions. So when you get addicted, usually there are a few things that causes it, and I assume that mine is feeling the emptiness of life, I do not feel like I have a purpose in life, I just work, eat, sleep, and that's all that I do.

So, when I get addicted to something, I try to make that something of a personality trait for myself, like I am a gambler, that's how I am ,Ronaldo is a footballer, Bill Gates is a billionaire, Elon Musk is weird, and I am a gambler. That's why I saw that and I had a chance to stop being like that because I understand what caused it eventually.

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February 04, 2024, 01:02:43 PM
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back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
Go to the professional yourself and ask questions on your cousin's behalf. Tell him how often he gambles and how much he loses, how does he feel in general and other stuff that the pro professional will ask you about. He will make a conclusion and you'll see how severe the condition is. And then, in a relaxed atmosphere, tell about it to your cousin. Convince him to go to the professional himself. All of this might not work, but at least you'll try.
A person who gets addicted to gambling will only get out of it if they are willing to do that because you can't force someone to stop doing a certain thing as long as they are not ready to do that themselves. When it comes to gambling addicts, they barely acknowledge the fact that they are addicted, they will always be in denial and say that they do gamble but they aren't addicted to it even if you can see that they are spending all their time and money on it.

A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.

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February 04, 2024, 10:59:19 PM
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back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
Go to the professional yourself and ask questions on your cousin's behalf. Tell him how often he gambles and how much he loses, how does he feel in general and other stuff that the pro professional will ask you about. He will make a conclusion and you'll see how severe the condition is. And then, in a relaxed atmosphere, tell about it to your cousin. Convince him to go to the professional himself. All of this might not work, but at least you'll try.
A person who gets addicted to gambling will only get out of it if they are willing to do that because you can't force someone to stop doing a certain thing as long as they are not ready to do that themselves. When it comes to gambling addicts, they barely acknowledge the fact that they are addicted, they will always be in denial and say that they do gamble but they aren't addicted to it even if you can see that they are spending all their time and money on it.

A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.
It all matters with someones self on which it would really be pertaining about the acceptance and realizations made out. You wont really be able to quit if you arent that serious on quitting.
Therefore, if you are really that meaning on quitting then you should do it on your own.If you do fail then this is the time that you would really be having problems on quitting
then this is where those external factors or things that might be able to help you but in overall it would really be just that still depending on yourself whether you are really that
serious on quitting gambling or not. Things would really be reflecting out on how you would really be dealing up with those and the decisions been made.

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February 05, 2024, 08:52:53 AM
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Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
Very often taking the first step is the most difficult decision by far, your cousin most likely knows he has a problem but he is in denial and refuses to admit it, because if he were to do this then he will need to begin to take actions to solve his problem, and deep down he knows that this is not going to be easy and prefers to ignore the problem hoping that it will go away on its own, an impossibility of course but that does not stop a person from wishing that it became true.
That's the issue with many gamblers who are facing addiction, though some will not know that they are addicted, and this is probably because they are not just sensitive. They would think they are still doing the right thing when all that they do reveals that they are plainly doing the wrong thing. While for others, they know, only that they just do not care about it or they can't just stop. In either category, I believe that if they know already, it is still better and safer for them, after all, it is a problem half-solved. Now, where the remaining issue lies is whether or not they are willing to change. Some will not even give it a try at all, which makes it so pathetic, it is only when they give it a try that they can get healed.

But for some, they will try and will get healed, while for others, they will try but will not be able to help themselves. Anyway, it is good that people say what they are facing, especially if they've tried and couldn't work. Who knows, what others could ship in might be what will eventually help them. Also, the extensive categories I shared show why we should not limit the predicament to them alone, we can be of help as well. This is irrespective of whether they seek for our help or not, as long as we have access to them and we are sure of the issues going on in their lives, we can ship in our advice/help and even find external help for them depending on their willingness and the efforts they're already made. Even if they are not willing, it doesn't still mean that they can't still get our help.

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A person who gets addicted to gambling will only get out of it if they are willing to do that because you can't force someone to stop doing a certain thing as long as they are not ready to do that themselves. When it comes to gambling addicts, they barely acknowledge the fact that they are addicted, they will always be in denial and say that they do gamble but they aren't addicted to it even if you can see that they are spending all their time and money on it.

A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.

I agree with you. If someone addicted to the point that he/she is spending all money on it but at the same time thinks he's a responsible gambler, it's extremely hard to help such a person. Gambling addicts think that there are ups and downs in their gambling career, and when they lose everything it's just one of those times, but surely they will recover in the nearest future. That's the main mistake of gambling addicts.

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A person who gets addicted to gambling will only get out of it if they are willing to do that because you can't force someone to stop doing a certain thing as long as they are not ready to do that themselves. When it comes to gambling addicts, they barely acknowledge the fact that they are addicted, they will always be in denial and say that they do gamble but they aren't addicted to it even if you can see that they are spending all their time and money on it.

A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.

I agree with you. If someone addicted to the point that he/she is spending all money on it but at the same time thinks he's a responsible gambler, it's extremely hard to help such a person. Gambling addicts think that there are ups and downs in their gambling career, and when they lose everything it's just one of those times, but surely they will recover in the nearest future. That's the main mistake of gambling addicts.

At that point we can say that its hard for the to get aid since they are in denial stage where they denied everything people say or suggest and they continue to do those destructive gambling habits that slowly destroy their personality.

If these people know how to handle well their emotion also always take consideration on peoples opinion regarding to what they do especially those concerns of other people for sure they can change their attitude and will not go in worse situation where they might struggle to fix those issues that happen to them in that while.

They could really recover since experience will show up and they would realize their negative actions and decisions done then try to fix it.

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A person who gets addicted to gambling will only get out of it if they are willing to do that because you can't force someone to stop doing a certain thing as long as they are not ready to do that themselves. When it comes to gambling addicts, they barely acknowledge the fact that they are addicted, they will always be in denial and say that they do gamble but they aren't addicted to it even if you can see that they are spending all their time and money on it.

A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.

I agree with you. If someone addicted to the point that he/she is spending all money on it but at the same time thinks he's a responsible gambler, it's extremely hard to help such a person. Gambling addicts think that there are ups and downs in their gambling career, and when they lose everything it's just one of those times, but surely they will recover in the nearest future. That's the main mistake of gambling addicts.
You would really be mainly having the sense on trying out to make yourself that convinced that you would really be just that able to recover into those loses that you are suffering or experiencing
on which this would really be causes for you to play even more and something that cant be stopped as long you do have the funds that you could really be able to play then this is something
that you would really be able to make yourself that play further until you would be only noticing that you have done wrong on the time that you would really be that
suffering some financial problems on which this is something that you would really be lastly to be noticed about.

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A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.
Most of the addicted ones won't admit that they're addicted. And that's why even with the help of those closest people that are concerned to the condition.
The help that will be taken from them is a big thing but it's still gonna be dependent on the gambler if he allows them to help him or he'll follow all of those help.
But if none of them really helps, and we've got services like this to help quit gambling. What matters to these people is that there are people that are concerned to their own welfare.


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Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
Very often taking the first step is the most difficult decision by far, your cousin most likely knows he has a problem but he is in denial and refuses to admit it, because if he were to do this then he will need to begin to take actions to solve his problem, and deep down he knows that this is not going to be easy and prefers to ignore the problem hoping that it will go away on its own, an impossibility of course but that does not stop a person from wishing that it became true.
That's the issue with many gamblers who are facing addiction, though some will not know that they are addicted, and this is probably because they are not just sensitive. They would think they are still doing the right thing when all that they do reveals that they are plainly doing the wrong thing. While for others, they know, only that they just do not care about it or they can't just stop. In either category, I believe that if they know already, it is still better and safer for them, after all, it is a problem half-solved. Now, where the remaining issue lies is whether or not they are willing to change. Some will not even give it a try at all, which makes it so pathetic, it is only when they give it a try that they can get healed.

But for some, they will try and will get healed, while for others, they will try but will not be able to help themselves. Anyway, it is good that people say what they are facing, especially if they've tried and couldn't work. Who knows, what others could ship in might be what will eventually help them. Also, the extensive categories I shared show why we should not limit the predicament to them alone, we can be of help as well. This is irrespective of whether they seek for our help or not, as long as we have access to them and we are sure of the issues going on in their lives, we can ship in our advice/help and even find external help for them depending on their willingness and the efforts they're already made. Even if they are not willing, it doesn't still mean that they can't still get our help.
Most gambling addicts don't even realize on time that they are addicted to gambling and they need to find a way to get out of it before it's too late, this is how they get further into the addiction until the point where they find it difficult to get out of it and then they start looking for help to get out of it.

And believe me, those who find help to get out of the addiction are lucky because not everyone is lucky enough to get that privilege. Many gambling addicts just ruin their lives with the addiction instead of getting help and getting out of the addiction, some of them don't have any assistance available for them, and some just don't try and get help with their addiction and they keep giving up against their urges and accumulate and spend money from here and there.

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Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
Very often taking the first step is the most difficult decision by far, your cousin most likely knows he has a problem but he is in denial and refuses to admit it, because if he were to do this then he will need to begin to take actions to solve his problem, and deep down he knows that this is not going to be easy and prefers to ignore the problem hoping that it will go away on its own, an impossibility of course but that does not stop a person from wishing that it became true.
That's the issue with many gamblers who are facing addiction, though some will not know that they are addicted, and this is probably because they are not just sensitive. They would think they are still doing the right thing when all that they do reveals that they are plainly doing the wrong thing. While for others, they know, only that they just do not care about it or they can't just stop. In either category, I believe that if they know already, it is still better and safer for them, after all, it is a problem half-solved. Now, where the remaining issue lies is whether or not they are willing to change. Some will not even give it a try at all, which makes it so pathetic, it is only when they give it a try that they can get healed.

But for some, they will try and will get healed, while for others, they will try but will not be able to help themselves. Anyway, it is good that people say what they are facing, especially if they've tried and couldn't work. Who knows, what others could ship in might be what will eventually help them. Also, the extensive categories I shared show why we should not limit the predicament to them alone, we can be of help as well. This is irrespective of whether they seek for our help or not, as long as we have access to them and we are sure of the issues going on in their lives, we can ship in our advice/help and even find external help for them depending on their willingness and the efforts they're already made. Even if they are not willing, it doesn't still mean that they can't still get our help.
Most gambling addicts don't even realize on time that they are addicted to gambling and they need to find a way to get out of it before it's too late, this is how they get further into the addiction until the point where they find it difficult to get out of it and then they start looking for help to get out of it.

And believe me, those who find help to get out of the addiction are lucky because not everyone is lucky enough to get that privilege. Many gambling addicts just ruin their lives with the addiction instead of getting help and getting out of the addiction, some of them don't have any assistance available for them, and some just don't try and get help with their addiction and they keep giving up against their urges and accumulate and spend money from here and there.
I think that there are very few gamblers who manage to realize in time that their seemingly harmless addiction to gambling is no longer just their hobby, but already a gambling addiction at the stage of illness. 
Still, most of the players are too lenient about this mental state of theirs and they are sure that they can completely stop playing almost at any moment as soon as they want to do it.  However, such a moment does not come in their lives and their game continues more and more.  Here the question immediately arises about wasted money.  And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.

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February 08, 2024, 06:01:04 PM
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A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.
Most of the addicted ones won't admit that they're addicted. And that's why even with the help of those closest people that are concerned to the condition.
The help that will be taken from them is a big thing but it's still gonna be dependent on the gambler if he allows them to help him or he'll follow all of those help.
But if none of them really helps, and we've got services like this to help quit gambling. What matters to these people is that there are people that are concerned to their own welfare.
I share your view. Some gamblers who are addicted to it will be so arrogant and will never admit to it, but it is written all over them with their deeds towards gambling. Gambling is what we should engage with care, if not, we will always regret it. It could first start in the way of the money needed or fun, but if care is not taken, it can grow to what we will not like and will be difficult to control. In either case, one has to understand gambling on that path from the beginning so that it would be guided againts. If it is for fun, one should moderate it, even though the addiction of this is not so much because one can only be engrossed with it since they could have taken it as a hobby, and if they need to change, they could change easily even without the external help of being lousy about it.

But for addiction caused by a money-making mindset, which is rampant and will always happen because people want to make money through it. Some people's positions are justifiable, while others are not, and this is in stages. Some will be so broke and need money for urgent important things, they would now turn to gamble irrespective of being a good decision or not. But some others might just want more money, and not that they are broke. They will continue to gamble and gamble, and when they see it as not forthcoming and promising but losing, they will be revenging and lose more. And to some of them, they needed this gambling to live an extravagant lifestyle, not that they really needed the money for pressing needs.

Regardless of the category, if any of them could have that mind to change, it would be so good for them. But the money would have been wasted and an irresponsible lifestyle towards it must have been detected for anyone to even interfere in such affairs.

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February 08, 2024, 06:18:29 PM
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Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
Very often taking the first step is the most difficult decision by far, your cousin most likely knows he has a problem but he is in denial and refuses to admit it, because if he were to do this then he will need to begin to take actions to solve his problem, and deep down he knows that this is not going to be easy and prefers to ignore the problem hoping that it will go away on its own, an impossibility of course but that does not stop a person from wishing that it became true.
That's the issue with many gamblers who are facing addiction, though some will not know that they are addicted, and this is probably because they are not just sensitive. They would think they are still doing the right thing when all that they do reveals that they are plainly doing the wrong thing. While for others, they know, only that they just do not care about it or they can't just stop. In either category, I believe that if they know already, it is still better and safer for them, after all, it is a problem half-solved. Now, where the remaining issue lies is whether or not they are willing to change. Some will not even give it a try at all, which makes it so pathetic, it is only when they give it a try that they can get healed.

But for some, they will try and will get healed, while for others, they will try but will not be able to help themselves. Anyway, it is good that people say what they are facing, especially if they've tried and couldn't work. Who knows, what others could ship in might be what will eventually help them. Also, the extensive categories I shared show why we should not limit the predicament to them alone, we can be of help as well. This is irrespective of whether they seek for our help or not, as long as we have access to them and we are sure of the issues going on in their lives, we can ship in our advice/help and even find external help for them depending on their willingness and the efforts they're already made. Even if they are not willing, it doesn't still mean that they can't still get our help.
Most gambling addicts don't even realize on time that they are addicted to gambling and they need to find a way to get out of it before it's too late, this is how they get further into the addiction until the point where they find it difficult to get out of it and then they start looking for help to get out of it.

And believe me, those who find help to get out of the addiction are lucky because not everyone is lucky enough to get that privilege. Many gambling addicts just ruin their lives with the addiction instead of getting help and getting out of the addiction, some of them don't have any assistance available for them, and some just don't try and get help with their addiction and they keep giving up against their urges and accumulate and spend money from here and there.
I think that there are very few gamblers who manage to realize in time that their seemingly harmless addiction to gambling is no longer just their hobby, but already a gambling addiction at the stage of illness. 
Still, most of the players are too lenient about this mental state of theirs and they are sure that they can completely stop playing almost at any moment as soon as they want to do it.  However, such a moment does not come in their lives and their game continues more and more.  Here the question immediately arises about wasted money.  And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
To those people who do have that kind of awareness on the time that they do able to engage with gambling is into those people who are really that act accordingly which is right and this is something that should be applied for most gamblers and something that be wary about on the actions that they are making. If you are someone whose such have that kind of behavior then i dont see for gambling to be that a problematic thing for sure. Usually people do end up miserable just because of those wrong hopes and expectations that they had set on gambling or expecting something big that it could really be able to obtain
without any problems but it turns out to be that totally opposite.

Once gambling addiction clings into you, then getting out would really be that hard or something shall we say that it would really be that wrecking up your life on the best way as possible.
This is why control and self awareness and acceptance would be the key for you to be able to have that recovery.

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February 09, 2024, 07:11:21 AM
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I think that there are very few gamblers who manage to realize in time that their seemingly harmless addiction to gambling is no longer just their hobby, but already a gambling addiction at the stage of illness. 
Still, most of the players are too lenient about this mental state of theirs and they are sure that they can completely stop playing almost at any moment as soon as they want to do it.  However, such a moment does not come in their lives and their game continues more and more.  Here the question immediately arises about wasted money.  And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
Believing they can stop gambling whenever they want is just a lie they tell to themselves to avoid thinking about the consequences of this not being true, have you noticed that the majority of those that say that never make a real attempt to stop and see if their words hold true? They know very well they are lying, but a lie is more comforting than the bitter truth, however no matter how much they try to avoid it, at some point they will need to make an effort to stop gambling and that is when they will realize how difficult it is for them to do it.
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February 12, 2024, 08:02:22 AM
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You would really be mainly having the sense on trying out to make yourself that convinced that you would really be just that able to recover into those loses that you are suffering or experiencing
on which this would really be causes for you to play even more and something that cant be stopped as long you do have the funds that you could really be able to play then this is something
that you would really be able to make yourself that play further until you would be only noticing that you have done wrong on the time that you would really be that
suffering some financial problems on which this is something that you would really be lastly to be noticed about.

Oh, man. Gambling addicts, they notice nothing except spin button. And in their free time, I mean, their free from gambling time, they think of various combinations, be it on slots, poker or others. And even when they lose all their money to gambling it doesn't stop them. All think about is where to get the money f or gambling. And it's not like they are addicted the fun and ready to lose all those money, no. They are confident in their ability to win big soon.

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I think that there are very few gamblers who manage to realize in time that their seemingly harmless addiction to gambling is no longer just their hobby, but already a gambling addiction at the stage of illness. 
Still, most of the players are too lenient about this mental state of theirs and they are sure that they can completely stop playing almost at any moment as soon as they want to do it.  However, such a moment does not come in their lives and their game continues more and more.  Here the question immediately arises about wasted money.  And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
Believing they can stop gambling whenever they want is just a lie they tell to themselves to avoid thinking about the consequences of this not being true, have you noticed that the majority of those that say that never make a real attempt to stop and see if their words hold true? They know very well they are lying, but a lie is more comforting than the bitter truth, however no matter how much they try to avoid it, at some point they will need to make an effort to stop gambling and that is when they will realize how difficult it is for them to do it.
Everything would really be known in the end and those actions be made will really be getting in line with their current mindset. Addicted people wont really be able to see and determine on which thing
is bad or which thing is good. You wont really be able to make yourself to see those things when you are in the process of playing. Quitting gambling wont really be something an issue if you are really just that responsible with your actions and not something that you would really be that making yourself that too impulsive through it because if you do then this is where problem do begins.
If you wont really be that making yourself that having that good control specially with your mind and with your emotions then you would really be seeing gambling activity to be a huge problem.

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February 12, 2024, 05:45:33 PM
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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.

However, even if friends and families do notice some change in the behaviour of the gambler or if they see financial issues occurring, they can't solve the issue themselves unless the gambler acknowledges it and agrees that they are addicted and they want to get rid of it, that is when their friends and family members can do something to help them.

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February 13, 2024, 07:27:42 AM
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I think that there are very few gamblers who manage to realize in time that their seemingly harmless addiction to gambling is no longer just their hobby, but already a gambling addiction at the stage of illness. 
Still, most of the players are too lenient about this mental state of theirs and they are sure that they can completely stop playing almost at any moment as soon as they want to do it.  However, such a moment does not come in their lives and their game continues more and more.  Here the question immediately arises about wasted money.  And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
Believing they can stop gambling whenever they want is just a lie they tell to themselves to avoid thinking about the consequences of this not being true, have you noticed that the majority of those that say that never make a real attempt to stop and see if their words hold true? They know very well they are lying, but a lie is more comforting than the bitter truth, however no matter how much they try to avoid it, at some point they will need to make an effort to stop gambling and that is when they will realize how difficult it is for them to do it.
That's for sure. 
Many avid gamblers, even when their gambling addiction becomes a disease, tell themselves and their loved ones that they are able to pull themselves together and stop gambling.  They also say that they just don't do it, but once they decide to stop playing, they can handle it so easily.  And this can go on for a very long time.  But in fact, such players simply cannot voluntarily give up gambling.  For real and rightly, they need compulsory treatment.  Moreover, they require treatment that is very similar to the treatment of drug addicts.  And even after such a course of psychotherapy, many still return to gambling because they do not consider it the same personality-destroying vice as, for example, alcoholism or drug addiction.  I also see this as a major pitfall in the treatment of such addiction. 
But of course, the close relatives of such a gambling addict should worry about this first.  In addition, such a strong passion often leads to the loss of a large amount of money and can generally lead a family to a miserable lifestyle. 
This is a fairly common danger of gambling.

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February 13, 2024, 04:50:09 PM
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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.
This is a serious problem and I blame those gamblers for this. No one should start a thing without knowing the good and the bad sides of it if they are wise, and it is through this that the preventive measures would be known for those who are clever. Gambling is good and many have testified to this, but as good as it is doesn't mean that it doesn't have its own evil, it is this evil we have to plan against so that it will never affect us. Even if it does affect us, it will be less if a good plan is enforced. Gambling, if learned from the beginning, people would know that it is addictive and could cause us to lose just as it could earn for us. By knowing this, they will have to get prepared better for it, and if they are well cautious of the addictive part, they will not be too engrossed with it to the point that it will be compulsive to them.

Just like me, I gamble when I want to and I shun it when I want to, this is because I am fully aware of the danger in it. So it helps when we have that prior knowledge, our mindset would have been on the alert, so there will be a strong Willpower to say no when we don't want to play it. Also, about the wastefulness, it is all about our calculation and the right budgets, if we get it right and are disciplined as well, we will not have a wasteful issue with gambling. No one should just gamble because they see it as cheap, informal and accessible, it requires ethics and styles before we can maintain a responsible gambling characteristic.

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February 13, 2024, 05:00:02 PM
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Believing they can stop gambling whenever they want is just a lie they tell to themselves to avoid thinking about the consequences of this not being true, have you noticed that the majority of those that say that never make a real attempt to stop and see if their words hold true? They know very well they are lying, but a lie is more comforting than the bitter truth, however no matter how much they try to avoid it, at some point they will need to make an effort to stop gambling and that is when they will realize how difficult it is for them to do it.
Gamblers who have become more frequent in gambling will not want to stop their gambling activities at any time. They still love their gambling games and will not think about what consequences will happen to them. Maybe they will continue to lie to other people that they can stop gambling.

But maybe some gamblers can realize where their mistakes are when playing gambling. They want to correct their mistakes by reducing their gambling activities or even stopping their gambling activities. And they will completely stop their gambling activities when they don't see any benefits they can get from gambling.

They will probably do many things to stop gambling. But it's different from those who have told lies. They will continue gambling, perhaps even until they run out of all their money.

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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.

However, even if friends and families do notice some change in the behaviour of the gambler or if they see financial issues occurring, they can't solve the issue themselves unless the gambler acknowledges it and agrees that they are addicted and they want to get rid of it, that is when their friends and family members can do something to help them.
That is just the way people are, if you tell a person that their actions will have consequences years in the future, they will not listen to a thing you say, but if you were to tell them that what they are doing will have immediate consequences they will be way more ready to listen, so when a person is at the early stages of gambling addiction they will not make any attempt to stop themselves as they think of themselves as still being on control, and only until this is not the case they will begin to think about taking some actions to remedy this problem.
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February 21, 2024, 07:11:29 AM
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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.

However, even if friends and families do notice some change in the behaviour of the gambler or if they see financial issues occurring, they can't solve the issue themselves unless the gambler acknowledges it and agrees that they are addicted and they want to get rid of it, that is when their friends and family members can do something to help them.
That is just the way people are, if you tell a person that their actions will have consequences years in the future, they will not listen to a thing you say, but if you were to tell them that what they are doing will have immediate consequences they will be way more ready to listen, so when a person is at the early stages of gambling addiction they will not make any attempt to stop themselves as they think of themselves as still being on control, and only until this is not the case they will begin to think about taking some actions to remedy this problem.
It's right.  Of course, people often completely ignore the possible consequences of their steps and actions in the long term.  And if this is the near future, then they may think about it and change their actions a little. 
This of course also applies to gambling. 
For this reason, even a player who is actually already an addicted gambler, and this is obvious to his close people, quite calmly answers everyone that in the future he will definitely stop gambling and will lose his attraction to gambling quite easily.  But he can no longer do this without outside help.  As a result, it turns out that any warnings about the terrible and destructive consequences of gambling addiction for potential addicted gamblers sound like something that does not concern them.  And the warnings are simply completely ignored by such a gambler.  How to brush off an intrusive fly.

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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.

However, even if friends and families do notice some change in the behaviour of the gambler or if they see financial issues occurring, they can't solve the issue themselves unless the gambler acknowledges it and agrees that they are addicted and they want to get rid of it, that is when their friends and family members can do something to help them.
That is just the way people are, if you tell a person that their actions will have consequences years in the future, they will not listen to a thing you say, but if you were to tell them that what they are doing will have immediate consequences they will be way more ready to listen, so when a person is at the early stages of gambling addiction they will not make any attempt to stop themselves as they think of themselves as still being on control, and only until this is not the case they will begin to think about taking some actions to remedy this problem.
It's right.  Of course, people often completely ignore the possible consequences of their steps and actions in the long term.  And if this is the near future, then they may think about it and change their actions a little. 
This of course also applies to gambling. 
For this reason, even a player who is actually already an addicted gambler, and this is obvious to his close people, quite calmly answers everyone that in the future he will definitely stop gambling and will lose his attraction to gambling quite easily.  But he can no longer do this without outside help.  As a result, it turns out that any warnings about the terrible and destructive consequences of gambling addiction for potential addicted gamblers sound like something that does not concern them.  And the warnings are simply completely ignored by such a gambler.  How to brush off an intrusive fly.
People would really be just that mindful on the time that they would be experiencing those common consequences or situations been faced up by most gamblers on which they arent been able to mind it on earlier but rather they would really be doing it but its already too late. This is why it would really be better that you should be wary on the things around and on how things do works and what are the effects that it could possibly give when you do exert too much engagement and spending then you would really be ending up miserable and this is something that you should really be trying out to find for yourself
because once you do then you would really be having that kind of self awareness on things on which its not really that hard. Wondering on why many people missed out on this one.

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February 21, 2024, 04:25:15 PM
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A person who gets addicted to gambling will only get out of it if they are willing to do that because you can't force someone to stop doing a certain thing as long as they are not ready to do that themselves. When it comes to gambling addicts, they barely acknowledge the fact that they are addicted, they will always be in denial and say that they do gamble but they aren't addicted to it even if you can see that they are spending all their time and money on it.

A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.

I agree with you. If someone addicted to the point that he/she is spending all money on it but at the same time thinks he's a responsible gambler, it's extremely hard to help such a person. Gambling addicts think that there are ups and downs in their gambling career, and when they lose everything it's just one of those times, but surely they will recover in the nearest future. That's the main mistake of gambling addicts.
I do not agree with you because you seem to be abandoning the gambling addict due to the stage of their predicament, we should not do this for any reason. Fine, it could be hard to help gambling addicts especially when they've reached a certain stage in their addiction, yet, it might be worth it because no one knows the advice that will eventually heal them. Gambling addiction could be at the worst but it could be that the simplest thing will be their solution. Some are just suffering from this addiction because they do not have hope and purpose, if one could find the hope and purpose for them, they might immediately stop.

In my experience with gamblers who are addicted, one thing has always been their reason, and that is the money. Knowing this source of their problem alone is enough reason for you to help them. Just try as much as possible to show them another way that money could be made, and then you will see changes, at least in most cases. If you want to end the addiction in them totally, give them a purpose in life in addition to that, to the point that it will be taking their time and energy all day, but this time, it is positive because they are reaping the good results of what they are using their time and energy for. Before you know it, they will forget about gambling, not to talk of the addiction therein. This should work for most cases if not all.

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February 22, 2024, 06:52:08 AM
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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.

However, even if friends and families do notice some change in the behaviour of the gambler or if they see financial issues occurring, they can't solve the issue themselves unless the gambler acknowledges it and agrees that they are addicted and they want to get rid of it, that is when their friends and family members can do something to help them.
That is just the way people are, if you tell a person that their actions will have consequences years in the future, they will not listen to a thing you say, but if you were to tell them that what they are doing will have immediate consequences they will be way more ready to listen, so when a person is at the early stages of gambling addiction they will not make any attempt to stop themselves as they think of themselves as still being on control, and only until this is not the case they will begin to think about taking some actions to remedy this problem.
It's right.  Of course, people often completely ignore the possible consequences of their steps and actions in the long term.  And if this is the near future, then they may think about it and change their actions a little. 
This of course also applies to gambling. 
For this reason, even a player who is actually already an addicted gambler, and this is obvious to his close people, quite calmly answers everyone that in the future he will definitely stop gambling and will lose his attraction to gambling quite easily.  But he can no longer do this without outside help.  As a result, it turns out that any warnings about the terrible and destructive consequences of gambling addiction for potential addicted gamblers sound like something that does not concern them.  And the warnings are simply completely ignored by such a gambler.  How to brush off an intrusive fly.
People would really be just that mindful on the time that they would be experiencing those common consequences or situations been faced up by most gamblers on which they arent been able to mind it on earlier but rather they would really be doing it but its already too late. This is why it would really be better that you should be wary on the things around and on how things do works and what are the effects that it could possibly give when you do exert too much engagement and spending then you would really be ending up miserable and this is something that you should really be trying out to find for yourself
because once you do then you would really be having that kind of self awareness on things on which its not really that hard. Wondering on why many people missed out on this one.
Caution is a very important human characteristic.  It is this property that allows one to avoid any unpleasant consequences as a result of human actions.  But caution, of course, also depends on how quickly a person thinks and estimates what his actions will lead to. 
In gambling, caution is definitely important. 
It will really allow you not to lose too much and perhaps even stop the game and think carefully about whether it’s worth continuing or whether it’s better to end it even if you lose a lot of money. 
In my opinion, careful gamblers and careful people generally do not become addicted to gambling at the stage of the disease.  Their caution initially protects such players from harmful passion.

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February 28, 2024, 09:09:47 PM
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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many goes to the extended of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to loss and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized. Gamble responsibily by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.

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February 28, 2024, 09:53:45 PM
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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many goes to the extended of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to loss and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized. Gamble responsibily by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.

This is something we cannot allow ourselves to happen anymore, if we are focused on doing things well we have to be clear about something, we are people who will always have to look for improvements in our lives, there is no other option, we have to be clear In things, we cannot be inventing that we can do certain things without measuring the consequences. We are people who do have to see what we are getting ourselves into and how we can measure our capabilities. We cannot allow things to be like that. It's okay, if we play. We see what we can do but we have to take care of our image too, the fact that we reach a state where we are borrowing money to go to jail in a casino like that is a great addiction, there is no other way, it is something we should not do, we must overcome and we cannot allow it to continue.

One thing that we feel so desepsere for the game is Something that is not normal , it is okay that we like the game but in your wise Judgment , we are not people to go off and do any kind of things so that later everything goes badly for us, It is not like this.

A person must control himself, a person in the game must see it as another activity that must be carried out with moderation and not with despair, the fact that someone lends money to spend in a casino, at least it does not give me confidence and it is something that We should not do anything more, I see that we must lose borrowed money because we have no other recourse , but it is for something big, something emergency, a medical emergency, someone needs the money quickly, this is the only thing we must see.

But since each person handles themselves as they can and as they want because it is their money, here what I can advise is just for the sake of not falling into a lack addiction, because it is sad that a person's life is slipping away thanks to an addiction, that is something that is not good at all and that we must avoid falling into.

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February 28, 2024, 10:09:40 PM
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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many goes to the extended of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to loss and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized.
Someone has got a serious problem when they are onto the point of life that they're borrowing money just to gamble. Not just that, they're selling random stuff that they own for them to sustain their gambling addiction.

No one can stop them but hard realization that they're doing too much and they're no longer in their sanity.

Gamble responsibily by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.
And never borrow money to gamble because you'd be paying a lot of interest on top of the borrowed amount.

So, just don't gamble at all when you don't have money to place for your bets. Don't be pushy with it.



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February 28, 2024, 10:37:13 PM
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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.

However, even if friends and families do notice some change in the behaviour of the gambler or if they see financial issues occurring, they can't solve the issue themselves unless the gambler acknowledges it and agrees that they are addicted and they want to get rid of it, that is when their friends and family members can do something to help them.
That is just the way people are, if you tell a person that their actions will have consequences years in the future, they will not listen to a thing you say, but if you were to tell them that what they are doing will have immediate consequences they will be way more ready to listen, so when a person is at the early stages of gambling addiction they will not make any attempt to stop themselves as they think of themselves as still being on control, and only until this is not the case they will begin to think about taking some actions to remedy this problem.
It's right.  Of course, people often completely ignore the possible consequences of their steps and actions in the long term.  And if this is the near future, then they may think about it and change their actions a little. 
This of course also applies to gambling. 
For this reason, even a player who is actually already an addicted gambler, and this is obvious to his close people, quite calmly answers everyone that in the future he will definitely stop gambling and will lose his attraction to gambling quite easily.  But he can no longer do this without outside help.  As a result, it turns out that any warnings about the terrible and destructive consequences of gambling addiction for potential addicted gamblers sound like something that does not concern them.  And the warnings are simply completely ignored by such a gambler.  How to brush off an intrusive fly.
People would really be just that mindful on the time that they would be experiencing those common consequences or situations been faced up by most gamblers on which they arent been able to mind it on earlier but rather they would really be doing it but its already too late. This is why it would really be better that you should be wary on the things around and on how things do works and what are the effects that it could possibly give when you do exert too much engagement and spending then you would really be ending up miserable and this is something that you should really be trying out to find for yourself
because once you do then you would really be having that kind of self awareness on things on which its not really that hard. Wondering on why many people missed out on this one.
Caution is a very important human characteristic.  It is this property that allows one to avoid any unpleasant consequences as a result of human actions.  But caution, of course, also depends on how quickly a person thinks and estimates what his actions will lead to. 
In gambling, caution is definitely important. 
It will really allow you not to lose too much and perhaps even stop the game and think carefully about whether it’s worth continuing or whether it’s better to end it even if you lose a lot of money. 
In my opinion, careful gamblers and careful people generally do not become addicted to gambling at the stage of the disease.  Their caution initially protects such players from harmful passion.
Caution and emotion handling on which i could really say that this is something relevant specially when dealing up with gambling. Majority of people who do mess up their lives because of gambling is that those people are really that delusional on trying out to be rich with gambling and this kind of motive or aims in mind will really be keeping pushing them on doing things on which arent supposed to be done. Once you do become that impulsive and really that make yourself desperate then this is where things turns out to be a problematic condition.  Gamblers doesnt really need up any help
if they are really just that sensible into the things that they are doing. They wont really be putting up themselves on such big trouble if they have just that kind of mindset.

It is really just that people never ever learn on the time that they wont be able to experience the worst. Its not necessary for you to experience out before you could learn because you could eventually
be able to avoid things if you are really just that sticking into the reality aspect and not to make yourself that too hopeful on things which we know that it is really unlikely to happen.
This is why it would really be that best on having realistic approach rather than on making yourself that too wishful thinking on things.

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Sometimes I have seen a lot that the Biggest problem of the players is this of not having anything to do about the emotions, I am a person who does not defend that much should be done with the emotions, also emotions are something that we cannot control , that it is possible, but that it cannot be done easily and when we let our emotions become a terrible problem, we must always make it clear that when it comes to doing things much better it is Preferable to do them well , so I don't kill myself my head with the emotions because I know that it is difficult to Control them, it is preferable to control the money that is Going to be put into the casino and let the emotions flow, it is the easiest and that is what is most recommended to do, basically it is to put on a shirt 11 bullets, because it is very difficult to do it.

If we don't know how to poem, despite the fact we see that emotions are what often cause us to lose when we are very focused on the game, emotions also sometimes do the opposite process, that is, they are playing and are very lucky, they say go for the emotions and win, but of course that is something that is very risky, I would not take it as one of the strategies to follow and that many players have a life where their money goes very quickly, but I prefer to have my emotions controlled with money that the emotions will try to control them during the game and at the same time I can say that I have control of it, because that does not work like that, the money still goes away if we do not control from the beginning the money that we are willing to lose, if this is not done , the consequences are disastrous.

One of the most common problems and what we must take care of is addiction, addiction makes us stay in control of everything, not only emotions, our money , it Makes us lose friends , family, everything, then this It is not a good business and all with just controlling the money we are willing to lose, if we do that well, we will have better results.

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February 29, 2024, 07:05:25 PM
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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many goes to the extended of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to loss and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized.
Someone has got a serious problem when they are onto the point of life that they're borrowing money just to gamble. Not just that, they're selling random stuff that they own for them to sustain their gambling addiction.

No one can stop them but hard realization that they're doing too much and they're no longer in their sanity.

Gamble responsibily by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.
And never borrow money to gamble because you'd be paying a lot of interest on top of the borrowed amount.

So, just don't gamble at all when you don't have money to place for your bets. Don't be pushy with it.
On the time that you are already borrowing money just for you to gamble then you are really just that basically making yourself that ending up on huge problem once you have seen your pocket is already empty or on the time that you arent able to spend up something just because you dont have any fund left and this is where people or gambler do really starts on having those suicidal acts just because they cant be able to bare out or handle out such condition. Quitting gambling might sounds basic but on the actual condition then this is where people do failed up on doing so. If quitting is really just that easy then gambling business or companies
wont flourished out into this market, but we are actually seeing the different condition or situation on which it does have that increase on which means that it is really that making such progress
due to tons of addicted gamblers out there.

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February 29, 2024, 07:16:38 PM
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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many go to the extent of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to lose and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized. Gamble responsibly by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.
The first thing we have to know before we vent into gambling is that gambling is a game of chances and whatever amount we set aside to gamble with we should know that we can lose it at whatever time, so we shouldn't form the mentality of gambling to make profits and also we should stay away from gambling as much as possible because, there are high chances that it could get you addicted to the point that it will become uncontrollable.


And also we should know that gambling with the mindset of winning can lead us into a gambling crisis because forming such a mentality will force you into chasing losses along the line which will lead you to more losses.

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March 01, 2024, 03:26:29 PM
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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many go to the extent of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to lose and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized. Gamble responsibly by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.
The first thing we have to know before we vent into gambling is that gambling is a game of chances and whatever amount we set aside to gamble with we should know that we can lose it at whatever time, so we shouldn't form the mentality of gambling to make profits and also we should stay away from gambling as much as possible because, there are high chances that it could get you addicted to the point that it will become uncontrollable.


And also we should know that gambling with the mindset of winning can lead us into a gambling crisis because forming such a mentality will force you into chasing losses along the line which will lead you to more losses.
The moment anyone starts positioning their mind on the money to be made from gambling, that's when things start getting awkward. It takes a mature mind to gamble, but unfortunately, most minds gambling are not just mature, hence the bad results and complaints we see about gambling. Gambling on its own is not bad but is pushy, and for those who have the prior knowledge about this bad side of it, they could have planned ahead which is why learning is so important. It will guide us aright to know the good and the bad side of gambling so that we can try to achieve the good and also guard against the bad side. This is the only way responsible gambling can be unlocked because gambling itself will creep into people unnoticed, infest it and the outcome could be devasting.

As we know, nothing can be done when the mind has been corrupted by gambling, it will be uncontrollable, and at this stage, the gambler would have become addicted and all that he does will be toward gambling and wasting money on it. Because at that time, such wouldn't be gambling politely anymore but just following the emotion in him. This calls for discipline, and self and account management, with these, no gamblers can go extreme to the point of becoming irresponsible doing it. Nonetheless, we can help ourselves by not fixing our minds on the money involved in gambling, we should gamble with a neutral mind and believe we are having fun in it. And when it comes to the time of losses, we should let go in most cases, it's not worth chasing it too hard, especially when further gambling at that time will not in any way agree with our gambling principles and plans.

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Despite of all the challenges many of the gamblers are having while they are gambling due to some other reasons they personally contributed to or the ones that are inherent to them, how many of them are still finding it something interesting to quit gambling at the cause, gambling is not what is that easy to just say with mouth that we are quitting or we are providing a solution to the already wrongs in it, there are process and requirements needed.



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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many go to the extent of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to lose and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized. Gamble responsibly by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.
The first thing we have to know before we vent into gambling is that gambling is a game of chances and whatever amount we set aside to gamble with we should know that we can lose it at whatever time, so we shouldn't form the mentality of gambling to make profits and also we should stay away from gambling as much as possible because, there are high chances that it could get you addicted to the point that it will become uncontrollable.


And also we should know that gambling with the mindset of winning can lead us into a gambling crisis because forming such a mentality will force you into chasing losses along the line which will lead you to more losses.
Expectations have to be in line with what we can achieve, if a person imagine themselves earning a great fortune through gambling and they have no skills which could make this a reality, at some point they will make a huge mistake while gambling since it is impossible for their results to actually be that good, and when that happens they will begin to increase the size of their bets hoping that this could remedy the situation, which of course it does not as things get even worse.
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March 04, 2024, 07:11:21 AM
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Despite of all the challenges many of the gamblers are having while they are gambling due to some other reasons they personally contributed to or the ones that are inherent to them, how many of them are still finding it something interesting to quit gambling at the cause, gambling is not what is that easy to just say with mouth that we are quitting or we are providing a solution to the already wrongs in it, there are process and requirements needed.
Inherit in what sense? meaning the gambler have been addicted because of what he has thought ?
I Know many gamblers become gambling because they have been thought but not sure  if even addiction are
being inherit because this is a human choice ,and also it is our money so who will decide is of course us only lol.

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Caution is a very important human characteristic.  It is this property that allows one to avoid any unpleasant consequences as a result of human actions.  But caution, of course, also depends on how quickly a person thinks and estimates what his actions will lead to. 
In gambling, caution is definitely important. 
It will really allow you not to lose too much and perhaps even stop the game and think carefully about whether it’s worth continuing or whether it’s better to end it even if you lose a lot of money. 
In my opinion, careful gamblers and careful people generally do not become addicted to gambling at the stage of the disease.  Their caution initially protects such players from harmful passion.
Caution and emotion handling on which i could really say that this is something relevant specially when dealing up with gambling. Majority of people who do mess up their lives because of gambling is that those people are really that delusional on trying out to be rich with gambling and this kind of motive or aims in mind will really be keeping pushing them on doing things on which arent supposed to be done. Once you do become that impulsive and really that make yourself desperate then this is where things turns out to be a problematic condition.  Gamblers doesnt really need up any help
if they are really just that sensible into the things that they are doing. They wont really be putting up themselves on such big trouble if they have just that kind of mindset.

It is really just that people never ever learn on the time that they wont be able to experience the worst. Its not necessary for you to experience out before you could learn because you could eventually
be able to avoid things if you are really just that sticking into the reality aspect and not to make yourself that too hopeful on things which we know that it is really unlikely to happen.
This is why it would really be that best on having realistic approach rather than on making yourself that too wishful thinking on things.
Since all people who gamble are quite different from each other in temperament, character, and self-control, their behavior in a gaming situation can be completely different. 
In my opinion, quite a lot also depends on a person’s mental abilities, which precisely determine the moment when it is better to stop in the game or when it is better to continue playing.  And here you are absolutely right, until a person himself personally experiences some shock or, one might say, a strong emotional impact from losing or winning, he will never understand where the limit of reasonable actions in a gaming situation lies. 
But theoretically, all this can, of course, be told to a novice player; he will even nod his head, showing you that he understood everything.  But in reality, when it comes to his independent play, everything will not be so. 
It seems that only specific personal experience in this matter really enlightens the brain and trains the ability not to make completely stupid game moves.

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March 06, 2024, 09:21:48 AM
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Despite of all the challenges many of the gamblers are having while they are gambling due to some other reasons they personally contributed to or the ones that are inherent to them, how many of them are still finding it something interesting to quit gambling at the cause, gambling is not what is that easy to just say with mouth that we are quitting or we are providing a solution to the already wrongs in it, there are process and requirements needed.
lol the process of quitting is to admit that you are addicted and you need to quite .

the requirements that they need? is to admit that they need help and they must quit.

Look at those?? similar thing and admittance is what they need to win against gambling .

betting is not bad if you know how to handle but  if this affecting your life then that is not a good thing.

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Despite of all the challenges many of the gamblers are having while they are gambling due to some other reasons they personally contributed to or the ones that are inherent to them, how many of them are still finding it something interesting to quit gambling at the cause, gambling is not what is that easy to just say with mouth that we are quitting or we are providing a solution to the already wrongs in it, there are process and requirements needed.
lol the process of quitting is to admit that you are addicted and you need to quite .

the requirements that they need? is to admit that they need help and they must quit.

Look at those?? similar thing and admittance is what they need to win against gambling .

betting is not bad if you know how to handle but  if this affecting your life then that is not a good thing.

By the way, many players are well aware that gambling greatly affects their lives.
 First of all, because the player spends a lot of his time and quite a lot of money losing when he gets stuck in the game.  However, even with the realization that gambling is a problem for such a player, he still continues to actively play. 
But maybe he continues to play with short breaks.  However, during these breaks, his thoughts often return to his game, which makes it very difficult to concentrate on his other affairs.  In this case, I think outside help becomes necessary.  To begin with, this is help from loved ones, with persuasion and simply persuasion, trying to distract the player from gambling. 
Everything, of course, depends on the character of the player, but it seems to me that in some cases this will help cope with such an emerging gaming addiction and prevent the addiction from developing into the stage of mental illness.

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Despite of all the challenges many of the gamblers are having while they are gambling due to some other reasons they personally contributed to or the ones that are inherent to them, how many of them are still finding it something interesting to quit gambling at the cause, gambling is not what is that easy to just say with mouth that we are quitting or we are providing a solution to the already wrongs in it, there are process and requirements needed.
lol the process of quitting is to admit that you are addicted and you need to quite .

the requirements that they need? is to admit that they need help and they must quit.

Look at those?? similar thing and admittance is what they need to win against gambling .

betting is not bad if you know how to handle but  if this affecting your life then that is not a good thing.

The first step to quit any addiction is to just want to do it, the majority of those that are still immersed in it are in that situation because they want it, they cannot conceive their lives without gambling every day for hours, only those that have gotten tired of that lifestyle and want to recover a bit of what they lost can begin the process to heal, a process that is definitely difficult and that it can take a massive amount of time, but it can be done, as there are many people that leave their addictions behind and never fall on them again.
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I'm sorry I haven't written anything for a while. I'm amazed to see the activity in this feed. I wish the people I'm trying to help would be as active in discussions as you are.

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During January, we worked on a study where we asked our members about their gambling habits. We got 3300 responses. I believe it's the biggest study on gambling addicts ever.
I was checking the site and felt great to see that you are working with some academics to create contents. The Stockholm School of Economics in Riga is conducting a survey to understand decentralized gambling industry. Do you think you can collaborate with each others to help the academic study? I can connect you both if you want.

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During January, we worked on a study where we asked our members about their gambling habits. We got 3300 responses. I believe it's the biggest study on gambling addicts ever.
I was checking the site and felt great to see that you are working with some academics to create contents. The Stockholm School of Economics in Riga is conducting a survey to understand decentralized gambling industry. Do you think you can collaborate with each others to help the academic study? I can connect you both if you want.

Please do! Send me a PM, or ask them to contact me at support@quitgamble.com
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During January, we worked on a study where we asked our members about their gambling habits. We got 3300 responses. I believe it's the biggest study on gambling addicts ever.
I was checking the site and felt great to see that you are working with some academics to create contents. The Stockholm School of Economics in Riga is conducting a survey to understand decentralized gambling industry. Do you think you can collaborate with each others to help the academic study? I can connect you both if you want.

Please do! Send me a PM, or ask them to contact me at support@quitgamble.com
I informed them and also gave them your email. Hopefully they will contact you soon. Your works are inspiring. Thank you.

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I'm sorry I haven't written anything for a while. I'm amazed to see the activity in this feed. I wish the people I'm trying to help would be as active in discussions as you are.
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Yeah!  There is really a lot of activity in this topic and in my opinion this is how it should be.  Now so many years, even decades, have passed when gaming addiction entered the life of mankind on such a scale after mass computerization, and then the mass distribution of all kinds of gadgets, smartphones on which you can play whenever and wherever you want. 
So the phenomenon of gaming addiction has become widespread and in general I like that the scientific community, sociologists and psychologists are really concerned about this global problem.  Of course, the problem needs to be solved somehow, but the solution itself will obviously be difficult.
 It is very correct that you find out the statistics on this issue. 
I hope it will help you in your much needed work.

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March 19, 2024, 09:28:38 AM
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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many goes to the extended of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to loss and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized. Gamble responsibily by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.
never that gambling is a bad place but the problem is how we deal with it , how we manage to gamble because if you deal with gambling seriously then that will make you a complete loser because sooner you will become addicted.
and when you starts borrowing money to use for betting then you are already considered as addicted gamblers.









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March 19, 2024, 12:37:45 PM
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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many goes to the extended of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to loss and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized. Gamble responsibily by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.
never that gambling is a bad place but the problem is how we deal with it , how we manage to gamble because if you deal with gambling seriously then that will make you a complete loser because sooner you will become addicted.
and when you starts borrowing money to use for betting then you are already considered as addicted gamblers.
On the time that you are already spending into those amounts on which arent supposed to be spend then this do obviously signifies that you are already addicted to it and it is really just that better that you should stop it immediately if you dont like to mess up your life because of too much addiction. No external services or help that could really be totally be able to help you out with your addiction and it would really be just that be on yourself decision whether you would really be quitting for good or you would really be deciding for you to tolerate out such addiction. It would really be just that a matter of choice.

On the time that you do find out that you cant really be able to solve out such addiction then this is the time that you would really be seeking help from your loved ones. Things turns out
to be that a devastating thing if you do tolerate out such addiction. People do usually stop on playing gambling on the time that they dont really have money for them to spend on.

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April 10, 2024, 07:55:17 AM
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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many goes to the extended of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to loss and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized. Gamble responsibily by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.
never that gambling is a bad place but the problem is how we deal with it , how we manage to gamble because if you deal with gambling seriously then that will make you a complete loser because sooner you will become addicted.
and when you starts borrowing money to use for betting then you are already considered as addicted gamblers.
On the time that you are already spending into those amounts on which arent supposed to be spend then this do obviously signifies that you are already addicted to it and it is really just that better that you should stop it immediately if you dont like to mess up your life because of too much addiction. No external services or help that could really be totally be able to help you out with your addiction and it would really be just that be on yourself decision whether you would really be quitting for good or you would really be deciding for you to tolerate out such addiction. It would really be just that a matter of choice.

On the time that you do find out that you cant really be able to solve out such addiction then this is the time that you would really be seeking help from your loved ones. Things turns out
to be that a devastating thing if you do tolerate out such addiction. People do usually stop on playing gambling on the time that they dont really have money for them to spend on.
However, some begin to actively seek money to continue their games.  And here the degradation of personality practically begins.  Such a player cannot repay the money borrowed from friends and acquaintances because he has completely lost the money.  The attitude of the people arolund him and his close relatives also changes dramatically.  Nobody lends him money.  And such a player begins to commit crimes, and he begins to steal.  Well, it ends in court and prison.  Well, in prison there is no way you can lose in normal and decent gambling games.  This is of course the saddest ending to the passion for gamblng.  Sometimes there is a better option and the player is cured.  And continues his normal life. 
But still, such cases with criminal outcomes happen quite often in many countries where gambling is very widespread.

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April 10, 2024, 01:50:00 PM
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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many goes to the extended of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to loss and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized. Gamble responsibily by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.
never that gambling is a bad place but the problem is how we deal with it , how we manage to gamble because if you deal with gambling seriously then that will make you a complete loser because sooner you will become addicted.
and when you starts borrowing money to use for betting then you are already considered as addicted gamblers.
On the time that you are already spending into those amounts on which arent supposed to be spend then this do obviously signifies that you are already addicted to it and it is really just that better that you should stop it immediately if you dont like to mess up your life because of too much addiction. No external services or help that could really be totally be able to help you out with your addiction and it would really be just that be on yourself decision whether you would really be quitting for good or you would really be deciding for you to tolerate out such addiction. It would really be just that a matter of choice.

On the time that you do find out that you cant really be able to solve out such addiction then this is the time that you would really be seeking help from your loved ones. Things turns out
to be that a devastating thing if you do tolerate out such addiction. People do usually stop on playing gambling on the time that they dont really have money for them to spend on.
However, some begin to actively seek money to continue their games.  And here the degradation of personality practically begins.  Such a player cannot repay the money borrowed from friends and acquaintances because he has completely lost the money.  The attitude of the people arolund him and his close relatives also changes dramatically.  Nobody lends him money.  And such a player begins to commit crimes, and he begins to steal.  Well, it ends in court and prison.  Well, in prison there is no way you can lose in normal and decent gambling games.  This is of course the saddest ending to the passion for gamblng.  Sometimes there is a better option and the player is cured.  And continues his normal life. 
But still, such cases with criminal outcomes happen quite often in many countries where gambling is very widespread.
This is why the best thing that you should really do is not to make yourself that getting addicted at the first place, although it might not be that simple but having that control and moderation would really be the key.
Making yourself that getting addicted is really that too simple but getting out would really be the toughest challenge for a certain or particular person would really be able to experience out.
This is why if oyu do really value your life and the people around you and with your finances then it would really be best that you should be having that control towards your gambling involvement.
Quitting gambling is something that you should really be able to do so without any issues. It is really just that there are people who are really that not good when it comes to self control.

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April 10, 2024, 04:51:29 PM
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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many goes to the extended of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to loss and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized. Gamble responsibily by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.
never that gambling is a bad place but the problem is how we deal with it , how we manage to gamble because if you deal with gambling seriously then that will make you a complete loser because sooner you will become addicted.
and when you starts borrowing money to use for betting then you are already considered as addicted gamblers.
On the time that you are already spending into those amounts on which arent supposed to be spend then this do obviously signifies that you are already addicted to it and it is really just that better that you should stop it immediately if you dont like to mess up your life because of too much addiction. No external services or help that could really be totally be able to help you out with your addiction and it would really be just that be on yourself decision whether you would really be quitting for good or you would really be deciding for you to tolerate out such addiction. It would really be just that a matter of choice.

On the time that you do find out that you cant really be able to solve out such addiction then this is the time that you would really be seeking help from your loved ones. Things turns out
to be that a devastating thing if you do tolerate out such addiction. People do usually stop on playing gambling on the time that they dont really have money for them to spend on.
However, some begin to actively seek money to continue their games.  And here the degradation of personality practically begins.  Such a player cannot repay the money borrowed from friends and acquaintances because he has completely lost the money.  The attitude of the people arolund him and his close relatives also changes dramatically.  Nobody lends him money.  And such a player begins to commit crimes, and he begins to steal.  Well, it ends in court and prison.  Well, in prison there is no way you can lose in normal and decent gambling games.  This is of course the saddest ending to the passion for gamblng.  Sometimes there is a better option and the player is cured.  And continues his normal life.  
But still, such cases with criminal outcomes happen quite often in many countries where gambling is very widespread.
Stealing for the sake of gambling is the height of it and I have never seen or heard of that story before. Not with the uncontrollable ones I know, they always have their limits, and when there are no friends and families willing to give them money anymore and they do not have anywhere to borrow from, I believe they often accept that situation as their last and do not resort to stealing. In my thought, I believe the person who went to the extent of stealing to gamble is a criminal on his own, I will never take the excuse that it is the addiction per se that led him into it but the lack of contention and for his desperation for "money."

Still, he might gamble with part of the money but definitely not with all, meaning that it is not all about gambling but for the lack of money at that time. The scarcity of money can bring many unthinkable thoughts and acts, but nevertheless, it is out of greed that people do this. They can do unspeakable things due to greed and I know they do not have a single bardonable excuse for it. If you need money that desperately, why not go do menial jobs, after all, such jobs are readily available, and they are sufficient enough to satisfy the immediate need.

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Hi Everyone!
I wanted to share a project that I've been part of. 5 years ago, I changed course from being a casino affiliate to working with problem gambling. It's been a project full of challenges, happiness, tears, and fighting. I wanted to do something different, and I saw how many people struggle.

QuitGamble.com is an online platform and mobile app to help people with gambling problems. The platform is free to use, and members get access to:
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Everything on QuitGamble.com is built from a problem gambler's perspective. We don't talk about responsible gambling, which many other organizations who claim to work with problem gambling do. For us, there is no such thing as RG for someone with gambling problems. (Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)

The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, French and Portuguese.

If you're curious about our project, please feel free to reach out. I would be happy to receive any feedback, both positive and negative. If you have a gambling problem, I would recommend you take a look at our how to stop gambling addiction guide. It's a step-by-step process that will put you on a new track.


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I am curious about the number of 6,500 ex gamblers you claim to have in your community - especially as it has not updated in any form since November last year but it seems a bit made up in the first place. I'm all for helping gamblers, but at least gambling companies can tend to be open about what they're offering and that seems like a bit of a lie. It's such a strange name as well, while I am happy that you're part of a project that supports ex gamblers there are already quite a few preexisting solutions out there. Take this forum for example, it seems like a much more open design where people can see activity rather than trying to funnel people straight to download an app.

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Gambling is not bad generally it is only when you form it a habit by allowing emotions attached to it, many goes to the extended of borrowing money to gamble or even gambling with the amount that they can not afford to loss and at some point making gambling to look like a crime while it is legalized. Gamble responsibily by only gambling with what you can afford to lose and still remain yourself.
never that gambling is a bad place but the problem is how we deal with it , how we manage to gamble because if you deal with gambling seriously then that will make you a complete loser because sooner you will become addicted.
and when you starts borrowing money to use for betting then you are already considered as addicted gamblers.
On the time that you are already spending into those amounts on which arent supposed to be spend then this do obviously signifies that you are already addicted to it and it is really just that better that you should stop it immediately if you dont like to mess up your life because of too much addiction. No external services or help that could really be totally be able to help you out with your addiction and it would really be just that be on yourself decision whether you would really be quitting for good or you would really be deciding for you to tolerate out such addiction. It would really be just that a matter of choice.

On the time that you do find out that you cant really be able to solve out such addiction then this is the time that you would really be seeking help from your loved ones. Things turns out
to be that a devastating thing if you do tolerate out such addiction. People do usually stop on playing gambling on the time that they dont really have money for them to spend on.
However, some begin to actively seek money to continue their games.  And here the degradation of personality practically begins.  Such a player cannot repay the money borrowed from friends and acquaintances because he has completely lost the money.  The attitude of the people arolund him and his close relatives also changes dramatically.  Nobody lends him money.  And such a player begins to commit crimes, and he begins to steal.  Well, it ends in court and prison.  Well, in prison there is no way you can lose in normal and decent gambling games.  This is of course the saddest ending to the passion for gamblng.  Sometimes there is a better option and the player is cured.  And continues his normal life.  
But still, such cases with criminal outcomes happen quite often in many countries where gambling is very widespread.
Stealing for the sake of gambling is the height of it and I have never seen or heard of that story before. Not with the uncontrollable ones I know, they always have their limits, and when there are no friends and families willing to give them money anymore and they do not have anywhere to borrow from, I believe they often accept that situation as their last and do not resort to stealing. In my thought, I believe the person who went to the extent of stealing to gamble is a criminal on his own, I will never take the excuse that it is the addiction per se that led him into it but the lack of contention and for his desperation for "money."

Still, he might gamble with part of the money but definitely not with all, meaning that it is not all about gambling but for the lack of money at that time. The scarcity of money can bring many unthinkable thoughts and acts, but nevertheless, it is out of greed that people do this. They can do unspeakable things due to greed and I know they do not have a single bardonable excuse for it. If you need money that desperately, why not go do menial jobs, after all, such jobs are readily available, and they are sufficient enough to satisfy the immediate need.
Perhaps it’s true that you can find hard and low-paid work in most places where people live.  However, often such work is associated with criminal activity or crime.  For example, you can even go to work as a mobile phone network operator, but at the same time call people and offer fraudulent actions, try to rob other people of their money. 

However, I certainly agree that the stage when a player becomes a criminal and a thief in order to continue the game is of course an abnormal option; this happens rarely, and in this case such a person intiially has criminal inclinations.  And by the way, he needs real treatment for gambling addiction by real doctors, maybe even isolation in a closed medical institution, since family members are powerless in this case.  And they can't help him.

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April 17, 2024, 12:54:46 PM
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Despite of all the challenges many of the gamblers are having while they are gambling due to some other reasons they personally contributed to or the ones that are inherent to them, how many of them are still finding it something interesting to quit gambling at the cause, gambling is not what is that easy to just say with mouth that we are quitting or we are providing a solution to the already wrongs in it, there are process and requirements needed.
lol the process of quitting is to admit that you are addicted and you need to quite .

the requirements that they need? is to admit that they need help and they must quit.

Look at those?? similar thing and admittance is what they need to win against gambling .

betting is not bad if you know how to handle but  if this affecting your life then that is not a good thing.

The first step to quit any addiction is to just want to do it, the majority of those that are still immersed in it are in that situation because they want it, they cannot conceive their lives without gambling every day for hours, only those that have gotten tired of that lifestyle and want to recover a bit of what they lost can begin the process to heal, a process that is definitely difficult and that it can take a massive amount of time, but it can be done, as there are many people that leave their addictions behind and never fall on them again.
Actually that is what i've said mate , that it is self acceptance first before you can win in this
battle because gambling addiction is like fighting for your own desire and decisions , even how many
people wanted to help you out as long as you are not helping yourself this will turn into nothing but
continues addiction.

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Despite of all the challenges many of the gamblers are having while they are gambling due to some other reasons they personally contributed to or the ones that are inherent to them, how many of them are still finding it something interesting to quit gambling at the cause, gambling is not what is that easy to just say with mouth that we are quitting or we are providing a solution to the already wrongs in it, there are process and requirements needed.
lol the process of quitting is to admit that you are addicted and you need to quite .

the requirements that they need? is to admit that they need help and they must quit.

Look at those?? similar thing and admittance is what they need to win against gambling .

betting is not bad if you know how to handle but  if this affecting your life then that is not a good thing.

The first step to quit any addiction is to just want to do it, the majority of those that are still immersed in it are in that situation because they want it, they cannot conceive their lives without gambling every day for hours, only those that have gotten tired of that lifestyle and want to recover a bit of what they lost can begin the process to heal, a process that is definitely difficult and that it can take a massive amount of time, but it can be done, as there are many people that leave their addictions behind and never fall on them again.
Actually that is what i've said mate , that it is self acceptance first before you can win in this
battle because gambling addiction is like fighting for your own desire and decisions , even how many
people wanted to help you out as long as you are not helping yourself this will turn into nothing but
continues addiction.

We should not take addiction matters with levity hands, this is not what we can easily just achieve without going through a lot, both for the gambler involved and those that are willing and ready to render help over the addiction, changing people is one of the most difficult task to do, because some cannot even effect the change on themselves and they desire in seeing it just happening, there are challenges to face in dealing with addictions and the both parties have to help the situation altogether in other to achieve something.



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I just barely knew the site and I thought this was a free program just opened the site and see pricing on it heheh.

Tho is always good to see people create a new site like this and help the other but It would be more great if you teamed up with the government so you can make this goodwill completely free. Do u need translator if So just hit me up heheh

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April 17, 2024, 03:03:16 PM
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Stealing for the sake of gambling is the height of it and I have never seen or heard of that story before. Not with the uncontrollable ones I know, they always have their limits, and when there are no friends and families willing to give them money anymore and they do not have anywhere to borrow from, I believe they often accept that situation as their last and do not resort to stealing. In my thought, I believe the person who went to the extent of stealing to gamble is a criminal on his own, I will never take the excuse that it is the addiction per se that led him into it but the lack of contention and for his desperation for "money."

You'll be shocked at what gambling addiction could make some individuals do, I've heard a case of a guy who tried to steal another gamblers wallet in a bet shop and when he was caught his excuse was that he used his tuition fee to gamble and lost everything so stealing was the only option he could think of to try again and see if he could recover his lost funds, funny right? That's how foolish some individuals could be when they become addicted.
 
 Well you might be right though because someone that's not a thief won't think of that as the first step to take in recovering their funds and maybe the guy who tried to steal that wallet was trying to use his gambling addiction as an excuse to get pardoned but unfortunately for him a crime is a crime and you'll get punished for it no matter the excuse. The best thing to do would've been walking out of that premises and go seek other better alternatives to recover his tuition fees.

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April 17, 2024, 04:00:54 PM
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Stealing for the sake of gambling is the height of it and I have never seen or heard of that story before. Not with the uncontrollable ones I know, they always have their limits, and when there are no friends and families willing to give them money anymore and they do not have anywhere to borrow from, I believe they often accept that situation as their last and do not resort to stealing. In my thought, I believe the person who went to the extent of stealing to gamble is a criminal on his own, I will never take the excuse that it is the addiction per se that led him into it but the lack of contention and for his desperation for "money."

You'll be shocked at what gambling addiction could make some individuals do, I've heard a case of a guy who tried to steal another gamblers wallet in a bet shop and when he was caught his excuse was that he used his tuition fee to gamble and lost everything so stealing was the only option he could think of to try again and see if he could recover his lost funds, funny right? That's how foolish some individuals could be when they become addicted.
 
 Well you might be right though because someone that's not a thief won't think of that as the first step to take in recovering their funds and maybe the guy who tried to steal that wallet was trying to use his gambling addiction as an excuse to get pardoned but unfortunately for him a crime is a crime and you'll get punished for it no matter the excuse. The best thing to do would've been walking out of that premises and go seek other better alternatives to recover his tuition fees.
I like your concluding part, it at least levelled the whole discussion. I know that there are thieves and people who do unspeakable things for the money, and if such people are gambling, I believe that they can naturally think towards that angle since they are bad people. This is the school of thought I picked my reply from and the only reasonable angle I can think of people that bad people will always be bad and can go to any length to achieve their badness.

If such people are now gamblers, some people would say they acted because of the addiction/desperation of gambling, but no, they acted in such a manner simply because they are bad and shameless and nothing more. This is all about needing money, what you use the money to do does not matter, what matters is how you get the money, is it good or bad? That's what defines you. If the source of money is bad, then you naturally want it in a bad way, that's why you went for that choice and not the gambling that makes such a person do that. You can imagine the example you narrated, that guy was desperate already, and that's why he resorted to stealing someone's wallet.

That's so senseless because no one forces him to gamble all his school fees, the greed of needing more money, or the frustration of not having enough pushed him to that. Something must have pushed every thief also. This may not even be an addiction case but a mere case of a victim of gambling who later became desperate. No matter why, anyone who goes to the length of stealing to gamble should be rehabilitated immediately. If not, such is near his true physical madness because such is already insane.

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April 17, 2024, 05:19:50 PM
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Despite of all the challenges many of the gamblers are having while they are gambling due to some other reasons they personally contributed to or the ones that are inherent to them, how many of them are still finding it something interesting to quit gambling at the cause, gambling is not what is that easy to just say with mouth that we are quitting or we are providing a solution to the already wrongs in it, there are process and requirements needed.
lol the process of quitting is to admit that you are addicted and you need to quite .

the requirements that they need? is to admit that they need help and they must quit.

Look at those?? similar thing and admittance is what they need to win against gambling .

betting is not bad if you know how to handle but  if this affecting your life then that is not a good thing.

The first step to quit any addiction is to just want to do it, the majority of those that are still immersed in it are in that situation because they want it, they cannot conceive their lives without gambling every day for hours, only those that have gotten tired of that lifestyle and want to recover a bit of what they lost can begin the process to heal, a process that is definitely difficult and that it can take a massive amount of time, but it can be done, as there are many people that leave their addictions behind and never fall on them again.
Actually that is what i've said mate , that it is self acceptance first before you can win in this
battle because gambling addiction is like fighting for your own desire and decisions , even how many
people wanted to help you out as long as you are not helping yourself this will turn into nothing but
continues addiction.
You said was right on which on the time that you wont really be able to help yourself first then other help from outside would really be totally pointless or useless because you would really be that definitely be
playing back again and this is why it would really be that important that you should really know on what you are doing. Quitting gambling might really that sounds too that easy to be done
but on the time that you are really that making yourself on such condition then its something that would really be that too damn hard to be doing on.

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April 17, 2024, 10:29:08 PM
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I just barely knew the site and I thought this was a free program just opened the site and see pricing on it heheh.
They have a 7-day free trial plan so that's likely enough for someone who would like to try them if they're going to be helpful. With that period, customer has the access that they've made for everyone to help with their own community and materials they've made.

Tho is always good to see people create a new site like this and help the other but It would be more great if you teamed up with the government so you can make this goodwill completely free.
I agree, it will be helpful if they team up with the government and propose this and see if they're up to the standards by the country where they'd offer this.

But, majority of the government deals are hard to get even for an appointment so let's see if they've tried it already or not and if they're going to respond on this.

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May 09, 2024, 07:46:09 AM
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I just barely knew the site and I thought this was a free program just opened the site and see pricing on it heheh.
They have a 7-day free trial plan so that's likely enough for someone who would like to try them if they're going to be helpful. With that period, customer has the access that they've made for everyone to help with their own community and materials they've made.

Tho is always good to see people create a new site like this and help the other but It would be more great if you teamed up with the government so you can make this goodwill completely free.
I agree, it will be helpful if they team up with the government and propose this and see if they're up to the standards by the country where they'd offer this.

But, majority of the government deals are hard to get even for an appointment so let's see if they've tried it already or not and if they're going to respond on this.


It would be great to offer everything for free and get sponsorships or deals with governments. However, it's extremely hard to deal with governments. There is another aspects to it as well. People tend to take things more seriously when they pay for something than when it's free. Think of how many free services you've signed up for and never used.
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May 09, 2024, 08:34:33 AM
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Despite of all the challenges many of the gamblers are having while they are gambling due to some other reasons they personally contributed to or the ones that are inherent to them, how many of them are still finding it something interesting to quit gambling at the cause, gambling is not what is that easy to just say with mouth that we are quitting or we are providing a solution to the already wrongs in it, there are process and requirements needed.
lol the process of quitting is to admit that you are addicted and you need to quite .

the requirements that they need? is to admit that they need help and they must quit.

Look at those?? similar thing and admittance is what they need to win against gambling .

betting is not bad if you know how to handle but  if this affecting your life then that is not a good thing.

The first step to quit any addiction is to just want to do it, the majority of those that are still immersed in it are in that situation because they want it, they cannot conceive their lives without gambling every day for hours, only those that have gotten tired of that lifestyle and want to recover a bit of what they lost can begin the process to heal, a process that is definitely difficult and that it can take a massive amount of time, but it can be done, as there are many people that leave their addictions behind and never fall on them again.
Actually that is what i've said mate , that it is self acceptance first before you can win in this
battle because gambling addiction is like fighting for your own desire and decisions , even how many
people wanted to help you out as long as you are not helping yourself this will turn into nothing but
continues addiction.
You said was right on which on the time that you wont really be able to help yourself first then other help from outside would really be totally pointless or useless because you would really be that definitely be
playing back again and this is why it would really be that important that you should really know on what you are doing. Quitting gambling might really that sounds too that easy to be done
but on the time that you are really that making yourself on such condition then its something that would really be that too damn hard to be doing on.
Those who are later looking for help and fighting gambling addiction are certainly at fault, it's from the beginning that they should have avoided that to avoid wasting themselves and their finances away. Many would not learn about gambling but just dabble into it, they never knew how it is being engaged wisely, the dos and don'ts of a good gambler and many more, but will just start because they believe they could try their luck since it is easily accessible, but instead, they start losing and exhibiting a very bad behaviour regarding it. Well, it is never too late for anyone and every gambler could be healed whether they want it or not, that is why they need more external help if they can't help themselves.

And yes, it will be nicer, easier and quicker if the gambler has the Willpower in them, it may even make them heal all by themselves, but when they cannot after trying many times, external help is the key. This may start with their friend, family and loved ones, before moving to the expert level if such close external help does not work. And if it's the experts in the field of psychological healing like psychologists, psychiatrists and therapists, they can unlock the Willpower that you guys think is impossible, so that the gambler can control his consciousness and fight within as well. That is the first goal of all experts even if the gambler or the addict seems uncooperative and unwilling to be cured.

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May 09, 2024, 08:40:32 AM
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I just barely knew the site and I thought this was a free program just opened the site and see pricing on it heheh.
They have a 7-day free trial plan so that's likely enough for someone who would like to try them if they're going to be helpful. With that period, customer has the access that they've made for everyone to help with their own community and materials they've made.

Tho is always good to see people create a new site like this and help the other but It would be more great if you teamed up with the government so you can make this goodwill completely free.
I agree, it will be helpful if they team up with the government and propose this and see if they're up to the standards by the country where they'd offer this.

But, majority of the government deals are hard to get even for an appointment so let's see if they've tried it already or not and if they're going to respond on this.


It would be great to offer everything for free and get sponsorships or deals with governments. However, it's extremely hard to deal with governments. There is another aspects to it as well. People tend to take things more seriously when they pay for something than when it's free. Think of how many free services you've signed up for and never used.
Hope that there will be agencies that willwork with you guys because this will be a big help for the world.
and hope to continue this advocacy to help addicted gambler you don't know what help have you bringing to the gambling community .

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May 09, 2024, 10:04:44 AM
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Hi Everyone!
I wanted to share a project that I've been part of. 5 years ago, I changed course from being a casino affiliate to working with problem gambling. It's been a project full of challenges, happiness, tears, and fighting. I wanted to do something different, and I saw how many people struggle.

QuitGamble.com is an online platform and mobile app to help people with gambling problems. The platform is free to use, and members get access to:
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Everything on QuitGamble.com is built from a problem gambler's perspective. We don't talk about responsible gambling, which many other organizations who claim to work with problem gambling do. For us, there is no such thing as RG for someone with gambling problems. (Who would write about responsible drinking on a page for alcoholics?)

The website is available in English, Spanish, Swedish, French and Portuguese.

If you're curious about our project, please feel free to reach out. I would be happy to receive any feedback, both positive and negative. If you have a gambling problem, I would recommend you take a look at our how to stop gambling addiction guide. It's a step-by-step process that will put you on a new track.


Have a super day, everyone!

/Anders


Well done for the initiative, but let me make a remark - you said that gambling addiction is not an illness. That is not quite correct. Gambling addiction is a mental health disorder (mental illness).
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Your website have some quality content that can guide a compulsive gambler to become a normal and responsibile gambler. Sometimes, members in this forum always seek for ways to stop gambling addiction which I have usually offered my own opinion but I can suggest this topic for them and my own opinion too.

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May 09, 2024, 10:29:49 PM
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Your website have some quality content that can guide a compulsive gambler to become a normal and responsibile gambler. Sometimes, members in this forum always seek for ways to stop gambling addiction which I have usually offered my own opinion but I can suggest this topic for them and my own opinion too.
actually this it not just for compulsive gambler but also a best way for new gambler to know what can gambling bring them as a warning and  a guide , reading this whole thread will give them more knowledge to what can do and not in terms of gambling.
because we knew nowadays that this area of fun bringing is also a place where you can lose everything if not knowing what you are entering and engaging.

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