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November 24, 2023, 10:47:13 PM
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People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty, so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation. You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.
Really impossible that you cant really be able to determine on whats good and whats bad. Its true that even on the time that we are seeing  that it is already negatively affecting us but still
you didnt really make any actions but rather you do continue on what you are doing. People would really be just completely stopping on the time  that they wont be able to make some bets anymore.
This is a common scenario or common situation on which it isnt really that shocking anymore. We would really be just that making steps or actions on the time that
we are already that devastated on which if we had just made outright decisions then we wont really be making yourself fall out into such condition.

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November 24, 2023, 11:53:15 PM
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How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.
This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.
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November 25, 2023, 05:33:09 AM
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This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.

In advanced countries like Australia that produce countless number of gambling addicts; it's the duty of the government to use gambling money to care for the addicts in any way possible. Or they'll lose out lots of citizens in the country due to gambling. Government is trying to regulate gambling ads to help reduce the high rate of addiction, but the publicity that walks along gambling is enormous and can't be controlled. It's now a word of mouth advert, across the world. The problem is the economic importance of these companies, cigarette for instance, helps in the distribution of tobacco thereby generating more money for the country, but the destruction it causes to their customers, isn't worth the wealth. As every country suffers from the diseases associated to the cigarette niche. Also these industries are legalized because at some point, they're not completely bad. So, the fault always goes to the users, who abuse it. In gambling, the government can administer any form of restrictive measures, but citizens can bypass it and abuse the game, to an extent of becoming addicted. Hence, the fault isn't completely on the side of casinos or government. Even if casinos are banned, which is impossible, gamblers will still bet with peers and group of people. Therefore, to build a strong avenue to change or correct gambling addiction, is by focusing on the younger generations and teach them regarding the wrong aspect of gambling. Mainly, learning money management in school can definitely prepare the younger generations to the greater fight of falling victims of gambling addiction.



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November 25, 2023, 08:20:45 AM
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People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty, so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation. You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.
This advice is very good but the gambler must be responsible and have come to his senses before he could be thinking this way. This is actually a sign of a new birth because no matter what you tell those who are addicted to gambling, they will not yield, while many of them do not even have the sense to think about gambling too much not to mention the guilt from it. Gambling is best done responsibly and if anyone has the guilt of gambling too much, it must have been the person who is losing much or not gaining much, because I don't know anyone who will be winning in gambling and still be feeling guilty about it, guilt of what? This is why taking a break once in a while is advised for such a person, and if gambling is too good to take such a break, the person might want to limit the gambling time, this also helps.

And in case taking a break is what such would opt for, it's good to use the spare time opportunity to learn more about how to gamble to gain, and find ways to minimize losses. There are ways to manage one's portfolio while gambling through some calculations and plans, I strongly suggest that too.

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November 25, 2023, 12:57:00 PM
 #205

This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.

In advanced countries like Australia that produce countless number of gambling addicts; it's the duty of the government to use gambling money to care for the addicts in any way possible. Or they'll lose out lots of citizens in the country due to gambling. Government is trying to regulate gambling ads to help reduce the high rate of addiction, but the publicity that walks along gambling is enormous and can't be controlled. It's now a word of mouth advert, across the world. The problem is the economic importance of these companies, cigarette for instance, helps in the distribution of tobacco thereby generating more money for the country, but the destruction it causes to their customers, isn't worth the wealth. As every country suffers from the diseases associated to the cigarette niche. Also these industries are legalized because at some point, they're not completely bad. So, the fault always goes to the users, who abuse it. In gambling, the government can administer any form of restrictive measures, but citizens can bypass it and abuse the game, to an extent of becoming addicted. Hence, the fault isn't completely on the side of casinos or government. Even if casinos are banned, which is impossible, gamblers will still bet with peers and group of people. Therefore, to build a strong avenue to change or correct gambling addiction, is by focusing on the younger generations and teach them regarding the wrong aspect of gambling. Mainly, learning money management in school can definitely prepare the younger generations to the greater fight of falling victims of gambling addiction.
The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.
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November 25, 2023, 03:53:55 PM
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The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.

You forget that smoking causes both physical and mental problems. Trying to differentiate physical and mental problem isn't possible because they both work cheek by jowls in running the body system. The brain helps the functionalities of the body and vice versa. An injured person can't think straight forward, due to pains. Same for a mentally disabled person. He can hurt his body and also feel disheartened. None is good for any human or better than the other problem. What is important, is reducing the high rate of mentally disabled people in the society, especially, those caused by gambling. As the number of gamblers increase a lot in the society. In addition, any form of illness officially mandates lots of money, not minding the type of illness. Saying the government should focus more on physically ill people over mentally ill citizens, isn't completely proper. The only abstract thing in both affected corporeality, is that mentally ill person; addicted gambler can stay unnoticed. Hence, making the process of tracing him difficult by the government. Unlike a physically ill person, that must be noticed immediately by everyone around them. Addiction takes time before society realizes the problem of the gamblers. I don't think anything, should be the reason why one side of the party won't be helped by the government. So, if the government use the money generated via gambling to tackle addicts and then tobacco money for affected smokers.  

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November 25, 2023, 06:36:14 PM
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They say it’s a progressive illness and it sure is.
It sure is, they are right about it. A gambler that doesn't control their emotions and stay away from getting addicted will suffer more as time goes by because they keep going deeper into the sea of addiction.

Addiction blocks emotions, it suppresses them so much you don’t ‘fee’ anything, only when you gamble, it takes you away from you, and your problems and then gives you a hundred more.
It doesn't take you away from your problems but makes you busy and keep your problems hidden until you stop and come out of the casino to realize that you had problems, and as you said, it only increases the problems if not done with limits and control.

addicts can only save themselves. We try sometimes to save other people, when we are the one’s in need. You have to turn inward with an addiction and help and learn to love yourself in order not to need it anymore, a task impossible until you receive that gift from other’s. You have to come out of hiding, and talk, unload all the shit that’s been holding you down and try your hardest to move forward.
Acknowledgment from the addict is important if they want to get out of it because if the gambler doesn't even accept the fact that they are addicted, no one can help them get out of their addiction. So, they help themselves by accepting their addiction and openly talking about their problems so that the ones hearing can help them get out of it.

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November 25, 2023, 09:59:10 PM
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How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.
This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.
Two are different things but having on the same issues in speaking or talks about addiction and this is something a problem that needs to be resolved but actually gambling addiction is really that different in the

sense that it isnt something that could affect out your body or health literally on which in this thing alone then we can say that it is really that totally different approach on how to resolve things
in terms of addiction. In overall it would really be still considered to be a probelm and to those platforms or individuals who are creating something for the benefit
of these addicted gamblers then it would really be that something commendable.

There's no such thing about being free, if there's one then lets just appreciate on what are the things that they are dedicatively trying to make some solutions
somehow.

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November 25, 2023, 10:10:08 PM
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This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.

In advanced countries like Australia that produce countless number of gambling addicts; it's the duty of the government to use gambling money to care for the addicts in any way possible. Or they'll lose out lots of citizens in the country due to gambling. Government is trying to regulate gambling ads to help reduce the high rate of addiction, but the publicity that walks along gambling is enormous and can't be controlled. It's now a word of mouth advert, across the world. The problem is the economic importance of these companies, cigarette for instance, helps in the distribution of tobacco thereby generating more money for the country, but the destruction it causes to their customers, isn't worth the wealth. As every country suffers from the diseases associated to the cigarette niche. Also these industries are legalized because at some point, they're not completely bad. So, the fault always goes to the users, who abuse it. In gambling, the government can administer any form of restrictive measures, but citizens can bypass it and abuse the game, to an extent of becoming addicted. Hence, the fault isn't completely on the side of casinos or government. Even if casinos are banned, which is impossible, gamblers will still bet with peers and group of people. Therefore, to build a strong avenue to change or correct gambling addiction, is by focusing on the younger generations and teach them regarding the wrong aspect of gambling. Mainly, learning money management in school can definitely prepare the younger generations to the greater fight of falling victims of gambling addiction.

Can government control the internet, can they sanitize everything that comes to the people through the internet, ads and other means are not targeted on gamblers to get addicted, people use them to abuse every opportunity in them just to satisfy their own personal desires, are these same organizations not being regulated by government agencies and yet they make their promotional campaigns through various platforms to spread the news about their website, yet so many abused it, who are to be blamed in this.



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November 26, 2023, 12:23:46 PM
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Unfortunately, the feeling of gambling is what they make addicted, in addition, casinos invest in research and development about how to put more players getting sucked into the game. ~

Do you have any evidence of that? Or do you mean that trying to make your product better is automatically implies making your customers addicted to your product? Then everyone is guilty, every company like Coca-Cola and others. Is that what you mean?

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Well, this is not to sound pessimistic but there would have never, and there will never be such a thing as no gambling addicts,, as long as its humans playing gambling, there will always be abuse, and abuse the major thing that gave or gives birth to addiction. ~

Yes, same as with food addicts, sex addicts and all the other human activities. Some people will always find a way to be addicted to something. If there's a nice and healthy activity, you can turn it into a dangerous one becoming addicted to it. 

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Unfortunately, the feeling of gambling is what they make addicted, in addition, casinos invest in research and development about how to put more players getting sucked into the game. ~

Do you have any evidence of that? Or do you mean that trying to make your product better is automatically implies making your customers addicted to your product? Then everyone is guilty, every company like Coca-Cola and others. Is that what you mean?

That is the bare minimum for a gambling-related company. See the book Addiction by Design: Machine Gambling in Las Vegas, I haven't finished it yet, but, you get the gist. I mean making players spend more time in the game is within the motive of those companies. The gambling industry itself is a competitive space, who wouldn't make their own casino extract more profit compared to its competitor?

Schüll describes the strategic calculations behind game algorithms and machine ergonomics, casino architecture and “ambience management,” player tracking and cash access systems—all designed to meet the market’s desire for maximum “time on device.”

I know what the author describes is the non-online gambling activities, but, there is no reason most parts also apply with the online one.

The word "better" requires a context, drink or social media companies generate profit from their own buyers and users, mind that social media do try to increase user screen time and sugar is also addictive. That might cause indirect consequences, but that does not close the possibility of the company itself investing in shady practices.
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November 27, 2023, 07:01:31 AM
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This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.

In advanced countries like Australia that produce countless number of gambling addicts; it's the duty of the government to use gambling money to care for the addicts in any way possible. Or they'll lose out lots of citizens in the country due to gambling. Government is trying to regulate gambling ads to help reduce the high rate of addiction, but the publicity that walks along gambling is enormous and can't be controlled. It's now a word of mouth advert, across the world. The problem is the economic importance of these companies, cigarette for instance, helps in the distribution of tobacco thereby generating more money for the country, but the destruction it causes to their customers, isn't worth the wealth. As every country suffers from the diseases associated to the cigarette niche. Also these industries are legalized because at some point, they're not completely bad. So, the fault always goes to the users, who abuse it. In gambling, the government can administer any form of restrictive measures, but citizens can bypass it and abuse the game, to an extent of becoming addicted. Hence, the fault isn't completely on the side of casinos or government. Even if casinos are banned, which is impossible, gamblers will still bet with peers and group of people. Therefore, to build a strong avenue to change or correct gambling addiction, is by focusing on the younger generations and teach them regarding the wrong aspect of gambling. Mainly, learning money management in school can definitely prepare the younger generations to the greater fight of falling victims of gambling addiction.

Can government control the internet, can they sanitize everything that comes to the people through the internet, ads and other means are not targeted on gamblers to get addicted, people use them to abuse every opportunity in them just to satisfy their own personal desires, are these same organizations not being regulated by government agencies and yet they make their promotional campaigns through various platforms to spread the news about their website, yet so many abused it, who are to be blamed in this.
In case you don't know, yes, the government can control/regulate the internet, ads and many more, only that they turn a blind eye to it. But do they have power and do they have the ability to do it, yes? Most governments are not just responsible while some have their reasons for not regulating it which range from more tax and giving people the freedom of their liberty. So far what they are marketing to you is not offensive, or illegal and is being rightly targeted to the adult community, then They and You are good to go. This is why we don't entirely blame the government for our faults. As citizens, especially adults, we have our duties and responsibilities as well, and these are towards our country and ourselves, we should be the right examples and we should always be responsible. Gambling responsibly is key here, and any adults who are doing otherwise should rather blame themselves and find a solution rather than the government or anything or anybody else.

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November 27, 2023, 02:43:05 PM
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The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.

You forget that smoking causes both physical and mental problems. Trying to differentiate physical and mental problem isn't possible because they both work cheek by jowls in running the body system. The brain helps the functionalities of the body and vice versa. An injured person can't think straight forward, due to pains. Same for a mentally disabled person. He can hurt his body and also feel disheartened. None is good for any human or better than the other problem. What is important, is reducing the high rate of mentally disabled people in the society, especially, those caused by gambling. As the number of gamblers increase a lot in the society. In addition, any form of illness officially mandates lots of money, not minding the type of illness. Saying the government should focus more on physically ill people over mentally ill citizens, isn't completely proper. The only abstract thing in both affected corporeality, is that mentally ill person; addicted gambler can stay unnoticed. Hence, making the process of tracing him difficult by the government. Unlike a physically ill person, that must be noticed immediately by everyone around them. Addiction takes time before society realizes the problem of the gamblers. I don't think anything, should be the reason why one side of the party won't be helped by the government. So, if the government use the money generated via gambling to tackle addicts and then tobacco money for affected smokers.  
I know that there is no difference between organic diseases and psychological diseases, and that each is related to the other. What I meant by raising this point is that physical diseases are clear to deal with and bear responsibilities for, but psychological diseases such as behavioral addiction are not easy to deal with, especially if they do not cause physical damage. The authorities will not deal with people who do not show any surprising symptoms or require intervention, and therefore gambling addicts do not appear on their priority list. Based on this, the gambling industry can be considered one of the most profitable sectors for the state, which costs it almost nothing. I hope I have succeeded in clarifying the point for you.
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I think that people learn patience and common sense in gambling in very different ways.  And they also learn to find a balance between their emotions and the state of euphoria and the logic of actions in a gambling game.  If a person who has become a player quickly learns to find such a balance in his psychological state, then this will further ensure that he will play and learn the maximum pleasure from the game.  
If the process of finding balance takes a long time, then such a  player may indeed become completely disillusioned with gambling and may either stop playing, or, alternatively, become a gambling addict who must be forcibly excommnunicated from gambling.
I think you are right, completely agree with, like we have discussed in another thread on this board or the gambling discussion board, many who came into gambling didn't do so on their own, majority started gambling because of the kind of money they saw another gambler win, or were told about it, and this made the person to decide to try out gambling since he or she will also like to win such an amount of money too.

And from my own personal experience, newbie gamblers are highly spirited, highly confident in believe that they would win, this pushes most of them to risking far more than they can afford to lose, it's only a matter of time, they will discover that winning in gambling is not as easy as they thought it was, and by this time, they come back to their sense that gambling aside being an activity that requires luck to profit, it also requires patients and open mindedness.

But this is if by this realization, such a person is not addicted yet, for the person who is addicted already, they may never come to this sense until help comes thier way.
Probably new players are not only energetic, but also very gambling.  They probably have much more adrenaline in their blood from the game than an experienced player.  This is due to the fact that an inexperienced novice player very often finds himself in a gaming situation that he has never seen before in his life.  And this naturally constantly forces his brain to actively decide what to do next.  And all this in a state of euphoria.  And of course, such a player often makes mistakes, which also adds to his worries.  
And you are probably right that a lot of novice players think that they can make money by gambling and, in general, do not put in much effort.  But gradually, of course, they become convinced that this is not at all the case.


Without a doubt, gambling does provide a unique opportunity for people to foster patience and a balance between euphoria and reason. Although steep, this learning curve is necessary. By quickly mastering this balance, gamblers learn how to control themselves better, which makes the experience more enjoyable and fulfilling. Ignoring the other side, though, is not an option. This constant search for balance can, in fact, lead to disappointment or, even worse, addiction. When walking on a wire, mistakes can have very bad results. Although the path to developing self-control in gaming is dangerous, it is also the place where the most important lessons are learned
And in this sense, gambling can probably even be compared to some extent with a very strict and unforgiving teacher.  
And by the way, many of us probably remember our teachers who were really strict, but also fair.  I even think that any person, becoming an adult, often remembers just such teachers who really taught him something useful in life and taught him well becaase of rigor and fairness.  
I think that gambling can be considered a strict and fair teacher in a broad philosophical sense.

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November 28, 2023, 09:03:23 AM
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And in this sense, gambling can probably even be compared to some extent with a very strict and unforgiving teacher. 
And by the way, many of us probably remember our teachers who were really strict, but also fair.  I even think that any person, becoming an adult, often remembers just such teachers who really taught him something useful in life and taught him well becaase of rigor and fairness. 
I think that gambling can be considered a strict and fair teacher in a broad philosophical sense.
To a great extend, I agree with you, we can as well also compare or liken gambling to life itself, and this because life is a brutal and unforgiving teacher, life is ready to teach a man as many times as he or she needs to learn, and she doesn't care how much you have lost, or how difficult the lesson is, she will continue to you brutally without mercy until you learn.

Same also is gambling, for a gambler who fail to properly learn how to participate in gambling without getting involved in problems, such a gambler will keep encountering problems in gambling until he or she learns to gamble responsibly.

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People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty, so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation. You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.
Really impossible that you cant really be able to determine on whats good and whats bad. Its true that even on the time that we are seeing  that it is already negatively affecting us but still
you didnt really make any actions but rather you do continue on what you are doing. People would really be just completely stopping on the time  that they wont be able to make some bets anymore.
This is a common scenario or common situation on which it isnt really that shocking anymore. We would really be just that making steps or actions on the time that
we are already that devastated on which if we had just made outright decisions then we wont really be making yourself fall out into such condition.
Yes, we do have our own self wills and it is really just that too impossible that we wont really be able to determine on whats good and bad just like been said.
It is really just taht there are ones who dont make use of their own common sense but rather they do really tolerate to those things that they do have in mind instead on trying out to
avoid on something which they do know that it would really be bad for them. Gambling addiction is something that cant be resolved out so easily but if you are
really that dedicated on doing so then you could be able to solve it out on your own, if there are things which could help out then its good.

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I think that's what it's all about, we are human, we make mistakes sometimes with money, we can make mistakes even worse, but when we know that we have fallen and we can fix things, the best thing is to be able to do it, not throw ourselves into a bad situation, everything. has a solution, until now what does not have a solution is only death, but in itself everything has a solution, that's why I believe that things can be very good when things are done to improve, the method does not matter, but accepting what was done bad things, in casinos it is very easy to make mistakes, because not everything is written down, nor is a casino obliged that if we put a lot of money into it, they don't have to reward us by giving more bonus money, no, first of all the casinos don't Olivgan to play, we will not be forced to leave an amount of money there, everything we do in a casino is of our own will, never because of something that is imposed on us, that is the only thing we must always consider.

In casino games is when we can make the most mistakes, for that reason we must always have the best of all plans to be able to play, to be able to execute any type of thing, and the best of all is to assume, if we lose, assume What did we lose, not blaming the casino, the friend who was with us, that because we listened to him, or any type of excuse to free ourselves from our guilt, everything we do we must always assume so that things are done and Look better, there is no other way, that's why in casinos not just anyone can enter, anyone can go crazy, lose everything and leave everything there, the best thing is to always have self-control and the money ready to lose, and above all patience, also if we lose then we lost, if we win then enjoy the gain, there is no other way, you always have to go ahead with everything, like everything in life, always look ahead and not get carried away by the bad because Don't miss out, especially in the casinos.

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And in this sense, gambling can probably even be compared to some extent with a very strict and unforgiving teacher. 
And by the way, many of us probably remember our teachers who were really strict, but also fair.  I even think that any person, becoming an adult, often remembers just such teachers who really taught him something useful in life and taught him well becaase of rigor and fairness. 
I think that gambling can be considered a strict and fair teacher in a broad philosophical sense.
To a great extend, I agree with you, we can as well also compare or liken gambling to life itself, and this because life is a brutal and unforgiving teacher, life is ready to teach a man as many times as he or she needs to learn, and she doesn't care how much you have lost, or how difficult the lesson is, she will continue to you brutally without mercy until you learn.

Same also is gambling, for a gambler who fail to properly learn how to participate in gambling without getting involved in problems, such a gambler will keep encountering problems in gambling until he or she learns to gamble responsibly.
It sometimes happens that players who suffered from gambling addiction at the level of mental illness are cured.  I even know one example of such a miraculous cure. 
Life is truly the strictest and often harsh teacher.  And in order to slightly soften the blows of fate that the life of a gambling player can throw at him, other players who have probably successfully recovered from gambling addiction help many players who are already suffering from gambling addiction in the disease stage.
  In particular, QuitGamble.com is one such assistant that can improve the condition of super-gamblers and return them to normal life.  In any case, I hope so and wish success in such a noble activity.

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November 29, 2023, 01:38:26 PM
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To a great extend, I agree with you, we can as well also compare or liken gambling to life itself, and this because life is a brutal and unforgiving teacher, life is ready to teach a man as many times as he or she needs to learn, and she doesn't care how much you have lost, or how difficult the lesson is, she will continue to you brutally without mercy until you learn.

Same also is gambling, for a gambler who fail to properly learn how to participate in gambling without getting involved in problems, such a gambler will keep encountering problems in gambling until he or she learns to gamble responsibly.
It sometimes happens that players who suffered from gambling addiction at the level of mental illness are cured.  I even know one example of such a miraculous cure. 
Life is truly the strictest and often harsh teacher.  And in order to slightly soften the blows of fate that the life of a gambling player can throw at him, other players who have probably successfully recovered from gambling addiction help many players who are already suffering from gambling addiction in the disease stage.
  In particular, QuitGamble.com is one such assistant that can improve the condition of super-gamblers and return them to normal life.  In any case, I hope so and wish success in such a noble activity.
People will not learn a lesson unless they try to experience the worst thing happened in their life that's why we see a lot of people fail on things they do especially on gambling where they think the money is fast. They always think about its easy for them to get rich that's why they got a wrong information installed in their mind and when they face the real scenarios happening there they lose so much and can't control their self anymore since they want to gamble more so they can recover back their losses and to earn huge because they think if they are consistent they became a good gambler later on.

And then they failed and get hook to much that's why its good to have good platforms where we can go if we want to seek some help and also the support of family is really important so that we can get away with this addiction then get back to our normal life.

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