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February 05, 2024, 10:08:42 AM
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A person who gets addicted to gambling will only get out of it if they are willing to do that because you can't force someone to stop doing a certain thing as long as they are not ready to do that themselves. When it comes to gambling addicts, they barely acknowledge the fact that they are addicted, they will always be in denial and say that they do gamble but they aren't addicted to it even if you can see that they are spending all their time and money on it.

A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.

I agree with you. If someone addicted to the point that he/she is spending all money on it but at the same time thinks he's a responsible gambler, it's extremely hard to help such a person. Gambling addicts think that there are ups and downs in their gambling career, and when they lose everything it's just one of those times, but surely they will recover in the nearest future. That's the main mistake of gambling addicts.

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February 05, 2024, 01:10:15 PM
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A person who gets addicted to gambling will only get out of it if they are willing to do that because you can't force someone to stop doing a certain thing as long as they are not ready to do that themselves. When it comes to gambling addicts, they barely acknowledge the fact that they are addicted, they will always be in denial and say that they do gamble but they aren't addicted to it even if you can see that they are spending all their time and money on it.

A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.

I agree with you. If someone addicted to the point that he/she is spending all money on it but at the same time thinks he's a responsible gambler, it's extremely hard to help such a person. Gambling addicts think that there are ups and downs in their gambling career, and when they lose everything it's just one of those times, but surely they will recover in the nearest future. That's the main mistake of gambling addicts.

At that point we can say that its hard for the to get aid since they are in denial stage where they denied everything people say or suggest and they continue to do those destructive gambling habits that slowly destroy their personality.

If these people know how to handle well their emotion also always take consideration on peoples opinion regarding to what they do especially those concerns of other people for sure they can change their attitude and will not go in worse situation where they might struggle to fix those issues that happen to them in that while.

They could really recover since experience will show up and they would realize their negative actions and decisions done then try to fix it.

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February 05, 2024, 05:31:14 PM
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A person who gets addicted to gambling will only get out of it if they are willing to do that because you can't force someone to stop doing a certain thing as long as they are not ready to do that themselves. When it comes to gambling addicts, they barely acknowledge the fact that they are addicted, they will always be in denial and say that they do gamble but they aren't addicted to it even if you can see that they are spending all their time and money on it.

A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.

I agree with you. If someone addicted to the point that he/she is spending all money on it but at the same time thinks he's a responsible gambler, it's extremely hard to help such a person. Gambling addicts think that there are ups and downs in their gambling career, and when they lose everything it's just one of those times, but surely they will recover in the nearest future. That's the main mistake of gambling addicts.
You would really be mainly having the sense on trying out to make yourself that convinced that you would really be just that able to recover into those loses that you are suffering or experiencing
on which this would really be causes for you to play even more and something that cant be stopped as long you do have the funds that you could really be able to play then this is something
that you would really be able to make yourself that play further until you would be only noticing that you have done wrong on the time that you would really be that
suffering some financial problems on which this is something that you would really be lastly to be noticed about.

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February 05, 2024, 05:55:42 PM
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A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.
Most of the addicted ones won't admit that they're addicted. And that's why even with the help of those closest people that are concerned to the condition.
The help that will be taken from them is a big thing but it's still gonna be dependent on the gambler if he allows them to help him or he'll follow all of those help.
But if none of them really helps, and we've got services like this to help quit gambling. What matters to these people is that there are people that are concerned to their own welfare.

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February 08, 2024, 05:39:02 AM
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Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
Very often taking the first step is the most difficult decision by far, your cousin most likely knows he has a problem but he is in denial and refuses to admit it, because if he were to do this then he will need to begin to take actions to solve his problem, and deep down he knows that this is not going to be easy and prefers to ignore the problem hoping that it will go away on its own, an impossibility of course but that does not stop a person from wishing that it became true.
That's the issue with many gamblers who are facing addiction, though some will not know that they are addicted, and this is probably because they are not just sensitive. They would think they are still doing the right thing when all that they do reveals that they are plainly doing the wrong thing. While for others, they know, only that they just do not care about it or they can't just stop. In either category, I believe that if they know already, it is still better and safer for them, after all, it is a problem half-solved. Now, where the remaining issue lies is whether or not they are willing to change. Some will not even give it a try at all, which makes it so pathetic, it is only when they give it a try that they can get healed.

But for some, they will try and will get healed, while for others, they will try but will not be able to help themselves. Anyway, it is good that people say what they are facing, especially if they've tried and couldn't work. Who knows, what others could ship in might be what will eventually help them. Also, the extensive categories I shared show why we should not limit the predicament to them alone, we can be of help as well. This is irrespective of whether they seek for our help or not, as long as we have access to them and we are sure of the issues going on in their lives, we can ship in our advice/help and even find external help for them depending on their willingness and the efforts they're already made. Even if they are not willing, it doesn't still mean that they can't still get our help.
Most gambling addicts don't even realize on time that they are addicted to gambling and they need to find a way to get out of it before it's too late, this is how they get further into the addiction until the point where they find it difficult to get out of it and then they start looking for help to get out of it.

And believe me, those who find help to get out of the addiction are lucky because not everyone is lucky enough to get that privilege. Many gambling addicts just ruin their lives with the addiction instead of getting help and getting out of the addiction, some of them don't have any assistance available for them, and some just don't try and get help with their addiction and they keep giving up against their urges and accumulate and spend money from here and there.

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February 08, 2024, 07:02:19 AM
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Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
Very often taking the first step is the most difficult decision by far, your cousin most likely knows he has a problem but he is in denial and refuses to admit it, because if he were to do this then he will need to begin to take actions to solve his problem, and deep down he knows that this is not going to be easy and prefers to ignore the problem hoping that it will go away on its own, an impossibility of course but that does not stop a person from wishing that it became true.
That's the issue with many gamblers who are facing addiction, though some will not know that they are addicted, and this is probably because they are not just sensitive. They would think they are still doing the right thing when all that they do reveals that they are plainly doing the wrong thing. While for others, they know, only that they just do not care about it or they can't just stop. In either category, I believe that if they know already, it is still better and safer for them, after all, it is a problem half-solved. Now, where the remaining issue lies is whether or not they are willing to change. Some will not even give it a try at all, which makes it so pathetic, it is only when they give it a try that they can get healed.

But for some, they will try and will get healed, while for others, they will try but will not be able to help themselves. Anyway, it is good that people say what they are facing, especially if they've tried and couldn't work. Who knows, what others could ship in might be what will eventually help them. Also, the extensive categories I shared show why we should not limit the predicament to them alone, we can be of help as well. This is irrespective of whether they seek for our help or not, as long as we have access to them and we are sure of the issues going on in their lives, we can ship in our advice/help and even find external help for them depending on their willingness and the efforts they're already made. Even if they are not willing, it doesn't still mean that they can't still get our help.
Most gambling addicts don't even realize on time that they are addicted to gambling and they need to find a way to get out of it before it's too late, this is how they get further into the addiction until the point where they find it difficult to get out of it and then they start looking for help to get out of it.

And believe me, those who find help to get out of the addiction are lucky because not everyone is lucky enough to get that privilege. Many gambling addicts just ruin their lives with the addiction instead of getting help and getting out of the addiction, some of them don't have any assistance available for them, and some just don't try and get help with their addiction and they keep giving up against their urges and accumulate and spend money from here and there.
I think that there are very few gamblers who manage to realize in time that their seemingly harmless addiction to gambling is no longer just their hobby, but already a gambling addiction at the stage of illness. 
Still, most of the players are too lenient about this mental state of theirs and they are sure that they can completely stop playing almost at any moment as soon as they want to do it.  However, such a moment does not come in their lives and their game continues more and more.  Here the question immediately arises about wasted money.  And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.

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February 08, 2024, 06:01:04 PM
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A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.
Most of the addicted ones won't admit that they're addicted. And that's why even with the help of those closest people that are concerned to the condition.
The help that will be taken from them is a big thing but it's still gonna be dependent on the gambler if he allows them to help him or he'll follow all of those help.
But if none of them really helps, and we've got services like this to help quit gambling. What matters to these people is that there are people that are concerned to their own welfare.
I share your view. Some gamblers who are addicted to it will be so arrogant and will never admit to it, but it is written all over them with their deeds towards gambling. Gambling is what we should engage with care, if not, we will always regret it. It could first start in the way of the money needed or fun, but if care is not taken, it can grow to what we will not like and will be difficult to control. In either case, one has to understand gambling on that path from the beginning so that it would be guided againts. If it is for fun, one should moderate it, even though the addiction of this is not so much because one can only be engrossed with it since they could have taken it as a hobby, and if they need to change, they could change easily even without the external help of being lousy about it.

But for addiction caused by a money-making mindset, which is rampant and will always happen because people want to make money through it. Some people's positions are justifiable, while others are not, and this is in stages. Some will be so broke and need money for urgent important things, they would now turn to gamble irrespective of being a good decision or not. But some others might just want more money, and not that they are broke. They will continue to gamble and gamble, and when they see it as not forthcoming and promising but losing, they will be revenging and lose more. And to some of them, they needed this gambling to live an extravagant lifestyle, not that they really needed the money for pressing needs.

Regardless of the category, if any of them could have that mind to change, it would be so good for them. But the money would have been wasted and an irresponsible lifestyle towards it must have been detected for anyone to even interfere in such affairs.

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February 08, 2024, 06:18:29 PM
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Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
Very often taking the first step is the most difficult decision by far, your cousin most likely knows he has a problem but he is in denial and refuses to admit it, because if he were to do this then he will need to begin to take actions to solve his problem, and deep down he knows that this is not going to be easy and prefers to ignore the problem hoping that it will go away on its own, an impossibility of course but that does not stop a person from wishing that it became true.
That's the issue with many gamblers who are facing addiction, though some will not know that they are addicted, and this is probably because they are not just sensitive. They would think they are still doing the right thing when all that they do reveals that they are plainly doing the wrong thing. While for others, they know, only that they just do not care about it or they can't just stop. In either category, I believe that if they know already, it is still better and safer for them, after all, it is a problem half-solved. Now, where the remaining issue lies is whether or not they are willing to change. Some will not even give it a try at all, which makes it so pathetic, it is only when they give it a try that they can get healed.

But for some, they will try and will get healed, while for others, they will try but will not be able to help themselves. Anyway, it is good that people say what they are facing, especially if they've tried and couldn't work. Who knows, what others could ship in might be what will eventually help them. Also, the extensive categories I shared show why we should not limit the predicament to them alone, we can be of help as well. This is irrespective of whether they seek for our help or not, as long as we have access to them and we are sure of the issues going on in their lives, we can ship in our advice/help and even find external help for them depending on their willingness and the efforts they're already made. Even if they are not willing, it doesn't still mean that they can't still get our help.
Most gambling addicts don't even realize on time that they are addicted to gambling and they need to find a way to get out of it before it's too late, this is how they get further into the addiction until the point where they find it difficult to get out of it and then they start looking for help to get out of it.

And believe me, those who find help to get out of the addiction are lucky because not everyone is lucky enough to get that privilege. Many gambling addicts just ruin their lives with the addiction instead of getting help and getting out of the addiction, some of them don't have any assistance available for them, and some just don't try and get help with their addiction and they keep giving up against their urges and accumulate and spend money from here and there.
I think that there are very few gamblers who manage to realize in time that their seemingly harmless addiction to gambling is no longer just their hobby, but already a gambling addiction at the stage of illness. 
Still, most of the players are too lenient about this mental state of theirs and they are sure that they can completely stop playing almost at any moment as soon as they want to do it.  However, such a moment does not come in their lives and their game continues more and more.  Here the question immediately arises about wasted money.  And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
To those people who do have that kind of awareness on the time that they do able to engage with gambling is into those people who are really that act accordingly which is right and this is something that should be applied for most gamblers and something that be wary about on the actions that they are making. If you are someone whose such have that kind of behavior then i dont see for gambling to be that a problematic thing for sure. Usually people do end up miserable just because of those wrong hopes and expectations that they had set on gambling or expecting something big that it could really be able to obtain
without any problems but it turns out to be that totally opposite.

Once gambling addiction clings into you, then getting out would really be that hard or something shall we say that it would really be that wrecking up your life on the best way as possible.
This is why control and self awareness and acceptance would be the key for you to be able to have that recovery.

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I think that there are very few gamblers who manage to realize in time that their seemingly harmless addiction to gambling is no longer just their hobby, but already a gambling addiction at the stage of illness. 
Still, most of the players are too lenient about this mental state of theirs and they are sure that they can completely stop playing almost at any moment as soon as they want to do it.  However, such a moment does not come in their lives and their game continues more and more.  Here the question immediately arises about wasted money.  And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
Believing they can stop gambling whenever they want is just a lie they tell to themselves to avoid thinking about the consequences of this not being true, have you noticed that the majority of those that say that never make a real attempt to stop and see if their words hold true? They know very well they are lying, but a lie is more comforting than the bitter truth, however no matter how much they try to avoid it, at some point they will need to make an effort to stop gambling and that is when they will realize how difficult it is for them to do it.
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You would really be mainly having the sense on trying out to make yourself that convinced that you would really be just that able to recover into those loses that you are suffering or experiencing
on which this would really be causes for you to play even more and something that cant be stopped as long you do have the funds that you could really be able to play then this is something
that you would really be able to make yourself that play further until you would be only noticing that you have done wrong on the time that you would really be that
suffering some financial problems on which this is something that you would really be lastly to be noticed about.

Oh, man. Gambling addicts, they notice nothing except spin button. And in their free time, I mean, their free from gambling time, they think of various combinations, be it on slots, poker or others. And even when they lose all their money to gambling it doesn't stop them. All think about is where to get the money f or gambling. And it's not like they are addicted the fun and ready to lose all those money, no. They are confident in their ability to win big soon.

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February 12, 2024, 12:45:57 PM
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I think that there are very few gamblers who manage to realize in time that their seemingly harmless addiction to gambling is no longer just their hobby, but already a gambling addiction at the stage of illness. 
Still, most of the players are too lenient about this mental state of theirs and they are sure that they can completely stop playing almost at any moment as soon as they want to do it.  However, such a moment does not come in their lives and their game continues more and more.  Here the question immediately arises about wasted money.  And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
Believing they can stop gambling whenever they want is just a lie they tell to themselves to avoid thinking about the consequences of this not being true, have you noticed that the majority of those that say that never make a real attempt to stop and see if their words hold true? They know very well they are lying, but a lie is more comforting than the bitter truth, however no matter how much they try to avoid it, at some point they will need to make an effort to stop gambling and that is when they will realize how difficult it is for them to do it.
Everything would really be known in the end and those actions be made will really be getting in line with their current mindset. Addicted people wont really be able to see and determine on which thing
is bad or which thing is good. You wont really be able to make yourself to see those things when you are in the process of playing. Quitting gambling wont really be something an issue if you are really just that responsible with your actions and not something that you would really be that making yourself that too impulsive through it because if you do then this is where problem do begins.
If you wont really be that making yourself that having that good control specially with your mind and with your emotions then you would really be seeing gambling activity to be a huge problem.

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February 12, 2024, 05:45:33 PM
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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.

However, even if friends and families do notice some change in the behaviour of the gambler or if they see financial issues occurring, they can't solve the issue themselves unless the gambler acknowledges it and agrees that they are addicted and they want to get rid of it, that is when their friends and family members can do something to help them.

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February 13, 2024, 07:27:42 AM
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I think that there are very few gamblers who manage to realize in time that their seemingly harmless addiction to gambling is no longer just their hobby, but already a gambling addiction at the stage of illness. 
Still, most of the players are too lenient about this mental state of theirs and they are sure that they can completely stop playing almost at any moment as soon as they want to do it.  However, such a moment does not come in their lives and their game continues more and more.  Here the question immediately arises about wasted money.  And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
Believing they can stop gambling whenever they want is just a lie they tell to themselves to avoid thinking about the consequences of this not being true, have you noticed that the majority of those that say that never make a real attempt to stop and see if their words hold true? They know very well they are lying, but a lie is more comforting than the bitter truth, however no matter how much they try to avoid it, at some point they will need to make an effort to stop gambling and that is when they will realize how difficult it is for them to do it.
That's for sure. 
Many avid gamblers, even when their gambling addiction becomes a disease, tell themselves and their loved ones that they are able to pull themselves together and stop gambling.  They also say that they just don't do it, but once they decide to stop playing, they can handle it so easily.  And this can go on for a very long time.  But in fact, such players simply cannot voluntarily give up gambling.  For real and rightly, they need compulsory treatment.  Moreover, they require treatment that is very similar to the treatment of drug addicts.  And even after such a course of psychotherapy, many still return to gambling because they do not consider it the same personality-destroying vice as, for example, alcoholism or drug addiction.  I also see this as a major pitfall in the treatment of such addiction. 
But of course, the close relatives of such a gambling addict should worry about this first.  In addition, such a strong passion often leads to the loss of a large amount of money and can generally lead a family to a miserable lifestyle. 
This is a fairly common danger of gambling.

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February 13, 2024, 04:50:09 PM
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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.
This is a serious problem and I blame those gamblers for this. No one should start a thing without knowing the good and the bad sides of it if they are wise, and it is through this that the preventive measures would be known for those who are clever. Gambling is good and many have testified to this, but as good as it is doesn't mean that it doesn't have its own evil, it is this evil we have to plan against so that it will never affect us. Even if it does affect us, it will be less if a good plan is enforced. Gambling, if learned from the beginning, people would know that it is addictive and could cause us to lose just as it could earn for us. By knowing this, they will have to get prepared better for it, and if they are well cautious of the addictive part, they will not be too engrossed with it to the point that it will be compulsive to them.

Just like me, I gamble when I want to and I shun it when I want to, this is because I am fully aware of the danger in it. So it helps when we have that prior knowledge, our mindset would have been on the alert, so there will be a strong Willpower to say no when we don't want to play it. Also, about the wastefulness, it is all about our calculation and the right budgets, if we get it right and are disciplined as well, we will not have a wasteful issue with gambling. No one should just gamble because they see it as cheap, informal and accessible, it requires ethics and styles before we can maintain a responsible gambling characteristic.

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February 13, 2024, 05:00:02 PM
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Believing they can stop gambling whenever they want is just a lie they tell to themselves to avoid thinking about the consequences of this not being true, have you noticed that the majority of those that say that never make a real attempt to stop and see if their words hold true? They know very well they are lying, but a lie is more comforting than the bitter truth, however no matter how much they try to avoid it, at some point they will need to make an effort to stop gambling and that is when they will realize how difficult it is for them to do it.
Gamblers who have become more frequent in gambling will not want to stop their gambling activities at any time. They still love their gambling games and will not think about what consequences will happen to them. Maybe they will continue to lie to other people that they can stop gambling.

But maybe some gamblers can realize where their mistakes are when playing gambling. They want to correct their mistakes by reducing their gambling activities or even stopping their gambling activities. And they will completely stop their gambling activities when they don't see any benefits they can get from gambling.

They will probably do many things to stop gambling. But it's different from those who have told lies. They will continue gambling, perhaps even until they run out of all their money.
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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.

However, even if friends and families do notice some change in the behaviour of the gambler or if they see financial issues occurring, they can't solve the issue themselves unless the gambler acknowledges it and agrees that they are addicted and they want to get rid of it, that is when their friends and family members can do something to help them.
That is just the way people are, if you tell a person that their actions will have consequences years in the future, they will not listen to a thing you say, but if you were to tell them that what they are doing will have immediate consequences they will be way more ready to listen, so when a person is at the early stages of gambling addiction they will not make any attempt to stop themselves as they think of themselves as still being on control, and only until this is not the case they will begin to think about taking some actions to remedy this problem.
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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.

However, even if friends and families do notice some change in the behaviour of the gambler or if they see financial issues occurring, they can't solve the issue themselves unless the gambler acknowledges it and agrees that they are addicted and they want to get rid of it, that is when their friends and family members can do something to help them.
That is just the way people are, if you tell a person that their actions will have consequences years in the future, they will not listen to a thing you say, but if you were to tell them that what they are doing will have immediate consequences they will be way more ready to listen, so when a person is at the early stages of gambling addiction they will not make any attempt to stop themselves as they think of themselves as still being on control, and only until this is not the case they will begin to think about taking some actions to remedy this problem.
It's right.  Of course, people often completely ignore the possible consequences of their steps and actions in the long term.  And if this is the near future, then they may think about it and change their actions a little. 
This of course also applies to gambling. 
For this reason, even a player who is actually already an addicted gambler, and this is obvious to his close people, quite calmly answers everyone that in the future he will definitely stop gambling and will lose his attraction to gambling quite easily.  But he can no longer do this without outside help.  As a result, it turns out that any warnings about the terrible and destructive consequences of gambling addiction for potential addicted gamblers sound like something that does not concern them.  And the warnings are simply completely ignored by such a gambler.  How to brush off an intrusive fly.

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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.

However, even if friends and families do notice some change in the behaviour of the gambler or if they see financial issues occurring, they can't solve the issue themselves unless the gambler acknowledges it and agrees that they are addicted and they want to get rid of it, that is when their friends and family members can do something to help them.
That is just the way people are, if you tell a person that their actions will have consequences years in the future, they will not listen to a thing you say, but if you were to tell them that what they are doing will have immediate consequences they will be way more ready to listen, so when a person is at the early stages of gambling addiction they will not make any attempt to stop themselves as they think of themselves as still being on control, and only until this is not the case they will begin to think about taking some actions to remedy this problem.
It's right.  Of course, people often completely ignore the possible consequences of their steps and actions in the long term.  And if this is the near future, then they may think about it and change their actions a little. 
This of course also applies to gambling. 
For this reason, even a player who is actually already an addicted gambler, and this is obvious to his close people, quite calmly answers everyone that in the future he will definitely stop gambling and will lose his attraction to gambling quite easily.  But he can no longer do this without outside help.  As a result, it turns out that any warnings about the terrible and destructive consequences of gambling addiction for potential addicted gamblers sound like something that does not concern them.  And the warnings are simply completely ignored by such a gambler.  How to brush off an intrusive fly.
People would really be just that mindful on the time that they would be experiencing those common consequences or situations been faced up by most gamblers on which they arent been able to mind it on earlier but rather they would really be doing it but its already too late. This is why it would really be better that you should be wary on the things around and on how things do works and what are the effects that it could possibly give when you do exert too much engagement and spending then you would really be ending up miserable and this is something that you should really be trying out to find for yourself
because once you do then you would really be having that kind of self awareness on things on which its not really that hard. Wondering on why many people missed out on this one.

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A person who gets addicted to gambling will only get out of it if they are willing to do that because you can't force someone to stop doing a certain thing as long as they are not ready to do that themselves. When it comes to gambling addicts, they barely acknowledge the fact that they are addicted, they will always be in denial and say that they do gamble but they aren't addicted to it even if you can see that they are spending all their time and money on it.

A professional, a friend, or a family member can only help an addicted gambler get out of their addiction if the gambler says it themselves that they are addicted and they feel like they should stop gambling as it's eating up all their time and money and it is causing issues for their life.

I agree with you. If someone addicted to the point that he/she is spending all money on it but at the same time thinks he's a responsible gambler, it's extremely hard to help such a person. Gambling addicts think that there are ups and downs in their gambling career, and when they lose everything it's just one of those times, but surely they will recover in the nearest future. That's the main mistake of gambling addicts.
I do not agree with you because you seem to be abandoning the gambling addict due to the stage of their predicament, we should not do this for any reason. Fine, it could be hard to help gambling addicts especially when they've reached a certain stage in their addiction, yet, it might be worth it because no one knows the advice that will eventually heal them. Gambling addiction could be at the worst but it could be that the simplest thing will be their solution. Some are just suffering from this addiction because they do not have hope and purpose, if one could find the hope and purpose for them, they might immediately stop.

In my experience with gamblers who are addicted, one thing has always been their reason, and that is the money. Knowing this source of their problem alone is enough reason for you to help them. Just try as much as possible to show them another way that money could be made, and then you will see changes, at least in most cases. If you want to end the addiction in them totally, give them a purpose in life in addition to that, to the point that it will be taking their time and energy all day, but this time, it is positive because they are reaping the good results of what they are using their time and energy for. Before you know it, they will forget about gambling, not to talk of the addiction therein. This should work for most cases if not all.

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And the question arises that such a player has already begun to lose so much that it has seriously begun to affect the life of his family or close relatives.  And only then did everyone suddenly come to their senses and start persuading that the player should be prohibited from playing and that he should be treated.  But everyone should have paid attention to this player’s predilection much earlier.  Then it would be much easier to get rid of gambling addiction. 
It seems to me that this is a very common mistake made by the player’s relatives and himself.
That is the problem, people often don't notice things until they start creating problems for them, and it's not just about gambling but everything in general. When it comes to gambling, gamblers don't realize it quickly, some don't even do that until they get too deep into the addiction but their families and friends can notice the change before the gamblers themselves, so they should start thinking of a solution as soon as they notice this change.

However, even if friends and families do notice some change in the behaviour of the gambler or if they see financial issues occurring, they can't solve the issue themselves unless the gambler acknowledges it and agrees that they are addicted and they want to get rid of it, that is when their friends and family members can do something to help them.
That is just the way people are, if you tell a person that their actions will have consequences years in the future, they will not listen to a thing you say, but if you were to tell them that what they are doing will have immediate consequences they will be way more ready to listen, so when a person is at the early stages of gambling addiction they will not make any attempt to stop themselves as they think of themselves as still being on control, and only until this is not the case they will begin to think about taking some actions to remedy this problem.
It's right.  Of course, people often completely ignore the possible consequences of their steps and actions in the long term.  And if this is the near future, then they may think about it and change their actions a little. 
This of course also applies to gambling. 
For this reason, even a player who is actually already an addicted gambler, and this is obvious to his close people, quite calmly answers everyone that in the future he will definitely stop gambling and will lose his attraction to gambling quite easily.  But he can no longer do this without outside help.  As a result, it turns out that any warnings about the terrible and destructive consequences of gambling addiction for potential addicted gamblers sound like something that does not concern them.  And the warnings are simply completely ignored by such a gambler.  How to brush off an intrusive fly.
People would really be just that mindful on the time that they would be experiencing those common consequences or situations been faced up by most gamblers on which they arent been able to mind it on earlier but rather they would really be doing it but its already too late. This is why it would really be better that you should be wary on the things around and on how things do works and what are the effects that it could possibly give when you do exert too much engagement and spending then you would really be ending up miserable and this is something that you should really be trying out to find for yourself
because once you do then you would really be having that kind of self awareness on things on which its not really that hard. Wondering on why many people missed out on this one.
Caution is a very important human characteristic.  It is this property that allows one to avoid any unpleasant consequences as a result of human actions.  But caution, of course, also depends on how quickly a person thinks and estimates what his actions will lead to. 
In gambling, caution is definitely important. 
It will really allow you not to lose too much and perhaps even stop the game and think carefully about whether it’s worth continuing or whether it’s better to end it even if you lose a lot of money. 
In my opinion, careful gamblers and careful people generally do not become addicted to gambling at the stage of the disease.  Their caution initially protects such players from harmful passion.

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