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November 06, 2023, 04:03:31 PM
Last edit: November 07, 2023, 08:18:06 PM by kentrolla
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 I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.

Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.

2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.

**Correction** "burst posting"

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November 06, 2023, 04:11:02 PM
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In #1, you wouldn't be able to bubble post and join campaigns as a beginner, so I think this isn't really for beginners.

I think when you expand #1 from your post, that includes the initial introduction posts and question posts. For sure there are a lot of multiple repeating questions that people have and that would make it to the point that it's annoying and become spam.

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November 06, 2023, 04:12:56 PM
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2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account.
Are you sure about this? I have not received such message before.

Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted
Moderators have never done anything like this before.

and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
Pay for merit? I will blame the newbies. Why buying merits? It is not different from buying an account.

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November 06, 2023, 04:43:12 PM
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Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account.
We can see cases of Merit trading, but if in practice they send DMs to several random accounts to offer their business, I haven't seen it.
the ones I encountered were those who traded Merit through several bounty groups. they openly opened the offer. their accounts on the forums have also been flagged. and getting Gifts in that way is not good.

after all, how much Merit could a beginner gain from purchasing it? maybe it will just move them up 1 or 2 spots. Maybe it's enough for those who want to join the signature campaign.

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November 06, 2023, 04:55:55 PM
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Completely useless post and advice for Beginners.

1. They are not generally hired by the campaigns on the forum, so it's useless advice however It's common sense and also mentioned in the rules of the Signature Campaign to not post to cover up the total posts.

2. I have never gotten any DM from any beginner/newbie on this forum in 3 years asking for Merit. There are various threads where they can post the link of their post and if it's good, the OP can merit them. I do not remember the usernames.
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November 06, 2023, 04:59:21 PM
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1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
It's Burst Posting, not Bubble Posting.  Cheesy

Burst Posting can be accepted if your posts have good quality. If I open some threads, compose my posts and hit Post after one by one, I believe campaign managers will not have issues with my posts.

The hidden fact is most of posters who make burst posts are shit posters and their posts have no quality to contribute for discussions. Consequently companies that hire them through signature campaigns won't get anything good or very little effect in term of marketing. It's waste of money to hire shit posters in a signature campaign, hence manager usually kicks those low quality participants out.

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November 06, 2023, 05:12:38 PM
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Inasmuch as it is rare for beginners to burst post, we should also know that it is not impossible for them to burst post either because anyone can burst post. A reading beginner may likely not burst post. For a beginner to burst post, it means they do not read replies which is not a good sign. This is why it is necessary to let them know of the possible implications. We know many beginners are always eager to meet up targets, so they tend to run faster than shadows, thereby  ignoring many rules and regulations that come with negative implications.

 
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November 06, 2023, 05:27:41 PM
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For the first time I saw this thread, I thought I would see many things that will help beginners learn how to operate in this community, but I didn’t come across anyone on your list. In fact,  there is no helpful advice here that will help any beginner, so I consider this post useless and meaningless. If people bring up threads like this, it will confuse the newcomers joining the forum because people will come to this thread and repeat the same thing, bringing different opinions, which is not right for a beginner to encounter while learning on the forum.

1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.

There is nothing bad if someone is posting without a gap or some period of time. What matters is how quality the post is. People can come here and do more than five posts in a short period of time, and you will see their posts as meaningful, so even the newcomers can post as long as they know what they are saying. However, I have never seen any signatures or bounty campaigns that include what you are saying in their rules. All that is needed is the quality of your post.

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November 06, 2023, 05:35:53 PM
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1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
Completing campaign posts is not a reason to fill the forum with junk. Campaign managers consistently monitor the posts of participants so such a person will be removed from the campaign. There is a need to plan how to maximize your time in the forum to enable you to contribute meaningfully to the community. If you are been paid for the services, then you are required to give your best. Writing useless posts will not also lead to the member getting merit which will also affect his chances of being selected in campaigns.

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2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
Trading merit is against the forum rules, so doing such will have severe consequences. Although I have never received such messages but I will distrust any member that sends such personal messages to me.

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Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.
If you are a shit poster, you won't be able to rank up because no one will give a shit poster merit. If you want to rank up on the forum here, then you have to be a quality poster. If you are not making any contribution to the forum, then you will find it difficult to rank up.

2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
I haven't received a message like this before. I am not saying forum members might not be doing that, some members can go to extra miles just because they want merit and they are not ready to make any impact on the forum. I am sure if you are making a contribution to the forum, you will receive merit without contacting anyone for merit trading.

I don't know if you have received a similar message before? If you have received a similar message, you should have just reported the account. Since you have evidence that the account contacted you, you don't have to keep on covering up for members like that. A thread can be created on the reputation board with your evidence attached to it. Also, if you find yourself in groups like that, you can just try and get their forum account, and you can easily report them.

I just remembered that you didn't mention people that do buy and sell forum accounts. I think that's really common on the forum here. There are people that do sell forum accounts. We all have to avoid buying forum accounts because with time you're going to be exposed. It's better to create and build your own account.

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November 06, 2023, 08:00:27 PM
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I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.


I think you meant burst posting. I would have agreed with you if you mentioned beginners. This is because a full member could also be regarded as a beginner. But in the Op as I bolded above, you mentioned NEWBIES. A newbie cannot burst post, no matter how they try to. When I was a newbie I tried posting fast consecutively but I was restricted by the system. There is a mechanism that stops newbies from posting fast consecutively, but as they grow in rank the restriction fades away because the time between posts is raised.

So, burst posting is not a problem of the newbies but rather established members.

About what you said in number two, merit sharing. It would have been good you bring an evidence

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November 06, 2023, 09:39:54 PM
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Their is so many things beginners have to avoid to get things they want, so if a beginners want to stay clear in the forum I think the first thing to do is to be making  a cogent posts that's more formative in meaning and also ensure that they avoid plagiarism and spamming, sometimes even Paraphrasing, because most of the newbie twist an already made post and interchanges the words of those the post, when you cross checked some of the threads in the forum you can attest that so many of the newly established thread has been discussed been discussed before.


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November 06, 2023, 10:00:33 PM
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1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.

If I look at the title you gave, this is advice for beginners. If they are still beginners then they haven't had the opportunity to register in the signature campaign because their rank is not yet high enough to meet the campaign requirements, so I don't think it's appropriate for you to give advice like this. For campaign participants who post too quickly or use up their entire posting quota in one or two days, this is usually called a post burst

2. Trading of merits:

I've never received a PM regarding someone requesting or sharing merit, so I don't know whether things like this often happen or not. However, if they are still beginners, chances are they don't have any smerit yet so it will be difficult for them to share their merit with each other.
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Trading merit is against the forum rules, so doing such will have severe consequences. Although I have never received such messages but I will distrust any member that sends such personal messages to me.
Trading merit is discouraged by forum community because it helps shit posters, farm accounts to rank up. After they rank up from merit farming, they will spam in forum and makes the forum worse in quality.

Trading merit is not prohibited by forum rules but are forum rules important or is community voice more important?
- Giving negative trust for merit trading and deceptive alt-account use may be appropriate, but you should use a light touch so that people don't feel paranoid.

If the "gaming" takes the form of strategically sending a lot of merit, creating sockuppets, and stuff like that, then no. That sort of gaming might get me to blacklist people, in fact. But if it looks more like politics, then that's OK, and that's what H8bussesNbicycles's thread looks like to me.

The current status quo seems OK. If you have to pay $20 per merit plus a risk of getting red trust, then that's a situation that doesn't concern me at all. I'm not going to lose sleep over people going to ridiculous lengths to buy merit, since only a small number of people will be willing and able to do that.

As long as merit sales are a black market, I'm happy, since that makes it far more difficult and expensive to buy merit. If that's the case, then the small volume of black-market merit trades don't themselves bother me much, and I think that it does more harm than good to get too witch-hunty about it.

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2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
While this never happened to me before.  It is such a stupid and silly move.

You can get Merits with such ease if you only show interest in this Forum.  You do not show interest, you gain no Merits because you just do not deserve to be Merited.  I am not a master of Bitcoin Talk or any thing like that.  But it is little effort to earn Merits up to some extent.  Of course.  With each new point you will need to increase post quality if you want other users to believe you deserve more.

There have been cases of users getting banned because of this.  And it is too pathetic for me to handle these cases.  Were they seriously lacking even the minimum brain resources required to earn a damn point so they had to resort to trading Merits?  What in the world.

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It is very common for people who come from the bounti section to this section to make such mistakes. When a user is working on a bounty campaign there is no restriction on posting he can submit his report whenever he likes but there are some differences in the rules for posting in other sections of the forum apart from the bounty section. In other sections of the forum a member cannot post one by one at will. When a member posts one after the other in other sections of the forum, his/her post will be considered as bust posting and over-posting can easily get his/her post deleted and a member may incur various bans. If posts are regularly deleted or if a member gets banned before, his account may face many problems later on, so posting should follow the rules of the forum.

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November 07, 2023, 09:38:46 AM
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I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid Bubble posting Burst posting :
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns,
I believe you meant burst posting...

Anyway, I don't know how applicable this is with high ranked members as it's expected that they know their way around the forum and some of the rules..unless it's a bought account or something, but when it comes to beginners meaning lower ranked members I think the forum has a mechanism of its own that prevents users from post bursting with an inbuilt waiting timer for each rank before a new post can be made and this works well...

2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account.

The use of the word "MosT" makes this sound like a very common habit around the forum, but unfortunately haven't run into such...

 
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November 07, 2023, 10:11:16 AM
Last edit: November 07, 2023, 10:26:06 AM by Doan9269
 #18

I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

Being an experienced member by stay on this forum, i expect you to give or deliver more than this, there are many things a newbie is expected to take a look on, if i may also consider these two points you've raised, these are already discussed aspects on countless times, more additional information could have been added to sauce it up.

1. Avoid Bubble posting:

This aspect talks about post bursting, this is not allowed wether you join a campaign or not, doing so is what lead to spamming which is not allowed as well, you can read more about these here

posting etiquettes
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184741.0#post_altgiveaway

topic title style guide by Theymos
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102944.msg1128795#msg1128795

2. Trading of merits:

Anything outside this contents is not allowed for merit, there's no howbyou will engage doing merit manipulations without getting caught, don't abise the merit system, don't merit your alt and don't sell or buy merits.

everything you need to know about forum rank, activities and merits.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0

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November 07, 2023, 01:39:26 PM
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On the 1. I guess you are talking about the Burst posting, some of the members doing those but keep making nonsense post like they are just spamming but there are some quality content with the continuous post could be different factors but most likely because they are trying to reach their weekly quota if they are joined in a signature campaign, I'm not talking as general.
2. Based on my experience never receive any DM for just begging merit, it's useless to deal with it instead keep yourself knowledgeable and be a contributor to the community merit will chase you.

Additionally with your thread too @op avoid commenting into an old thread just to up that conversation again if it's not really essential, we called those as necro bumpers just to meet their post requirements.

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November 07, 2023, 01:55:00 PM
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I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns
So this is the reason why you intentionally give at least a hour gap between your previous post and next post in order to not trigger the campaign manager to kick you?

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Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required
If you're not get merit airdropped, you're still a member rank lol.

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because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.
Do you think you're not?

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Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
I, as an user who have been here for 3 years, never get any single DM asking to share/buy merit.

Where's the proof if the moderators can easily identify that and ban those cheaters?

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