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November 07, 2023, 07:28:55 AM
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Before now it was impossible to avoid advertisment on Facebook and Instagram.This has made it impossible for gamblers to avoid advert even when they have used control the ads options. Now Meta is giving users in the EU, EEA and Switzerland the choice to pay a monthly subscription to use Facebook and Instagram  without any ads. This special account can come for as high as €9.99/month on the web or €12.99/month on iOS and Android. Users can get this account this month and enjoy the package  

Although the subscription fees is high to some low income nations but I think it can held to reduce gambling disorderly behaviour. Some gamers are triggered to gamble uncontrollable because of advertisment so this package will help them gamble responsibly. According to a study carried out by Sheffield and Glasgow universities the more people are exposed to betting advertisment the more likely they are to gamble and the greater the risk of them developing a disorder. This package is also helpful because it will make gamblers avoid adverts from many scam casinos that are using these social media as platforms which will also reduce gambling disorder.

What are your thoughts?

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November 07, 2023, 07:36:49 AM
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Before now it was impossible to avoid advertisment on Facebook and Instagram.This has made it impossible for gamblers to avoid advert even when they have used control the ads options. Now Meta is giving users in the EU, EEA and Switzerland the choice to pay a monthly subscription to use Facebook and Instagram  without any ads. This special account can come for as high as €9.99/month on the web or €12.99/month on iOS and Android. Users can get this account this month and enjoy the package 
I can never pay any social media money, be it meta or X for Elon Musk. What I am gaining from the this forum with gambling signature campaigs, I can not gain it from those meta social media, but I still prefer X. But nonetheless I can not pay for subscription on those social media. But on social media that belongs to Mark Zuckerberg, I have not been using them and I see them not useful for me than to make me not to have a private life.


Although the subscription fees is high to come low income nations but I think it can held to reduce gambling disorderly behaviour.
For people that pay for the subscription, not that the ads are removed. Nothing changed because most people will use the social media with ads.

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November 07, 2023, 07:39:16 AM
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Aren't gambling ads banned on Instagram and Facebook? It's surprising to me that gambling ads are still allowed on FB and IG.
I read the forum blackhatworld.com where some people say that it is possible to run gambling ads on Facebook, but it is very difficult and the possibility of the ads getting rejected is high.
If I was a gambling addict, I would avoid social media completely(assuming that gambling ads are allowed). There's no point for me wasting a monthly fee on a "no ads" subscription. There are multiple social media accounts, who promote gambling via their content. There's no way to avoid them, if you are active on social media. The algorithms will put their posts in your feed sooner or later.

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November 07, 2023, 07:51:14 AM
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If you have gambling disorder why not stay off Facebook and other social media platforms? Is it a must for them or what? As for the subscription requirement that'd ridiculous, it's not a once time fee thing but monthly renewal? To hell with Facebook and Instagram, I don't even have an account on Facebook and the reason why I used Instagram was for some advert assignment and this was years ago, I won't dare pay a penny to any social media if I am not making money off them.

The sub is good for those who are monetizing the platform, if not then it makes no sense, I thought that Instagram have already ban everything related to casino and crypto, maybe I read wrong, it's crazy that people can come across gambling ads and decide to go back into gambling, like they don't work on me, I easily ignore any gambling ads that I come across without thinking about them twice.

If you are addicted to gambling you should just stop using any platform that supports gambling ads and promotions, go back to the real world and spend countless time with your friends and family, if making money is why you get addicted to gambling you should start learning a new skill.

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November 07, 2023, 07:54:49 AM
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Aren't gambling ads banned on Instagram and Facebook? It's surprising to me that gambling ads are still allowed on FB and IG.
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Do not use a Page, group or event to promote online gambling without our prior, written permission. This prohibition also applies to games where anything of monetary value is required to play and anything of monetary value forms part of the prize. Common types of gambling or gaming activities include betting, lotteries, raffles, casinos, fantasy sports, bingo and poker.

The problem isn't someone who promote it, but the biggest problem is Mark Zuckerberg and his team has very low action to monitor illegal stuff posted in their platforms! the addicted gamblers also has a problem for not able to control themselves.

Imagine the addicted gamblers subscribe the no ads feature, do you think it will stop them to read user that promoting gambling ads? nope, those users will promote it through reply or personal message lol, they're creative.

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November 07, 2023, 07:59:10 AM
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Peak consumerism in action, people are so scared of ads and at how annoying they are that companies are using that frustration as a way to make money for themselves and give you the convenience of not seeing ads because people are so scared of ads that it might influence them. Also, wouldn't this be a useless thing anyway because you're going to see content creators having their own in-video ads that directly pays them? Regarding less gambling ads that might influence gamblers or make recovering gambling addicts relapse, I believe in the power of advertising and I believe that this might moderately reduce the people that will try gambling or anything of the like.
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November 07, 2023, 08:29:53 AM
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Before now it was impossible to avoid advertisment on Facebook and Instagram.This has made it impossible for gamblers to avoid advert even when they have used control the ads options. Now Meta is giving users in the EU, EEA and Switzerland the choice to pay a monthly subscription to use Facebook and Instagram  without any ads. This special account can come for as high as €9.99/month on the web or €12.99/month on iOS and Android. Users can get this account this month and enjoy the package  
Why would Musk want to exploit the weakness of his social media platforms users to make extra money for his already billionaire status. What are the gains the Facebook and Instagram community are gaining from the use of his platforms - the rich are with the inclination of getting richer and making the poor poorer by using every means to suck the little they have.

If I know I have a gambling disorder I'll just have to stay away from using the FB and IG platforms just like @z390 said, and instead use that €9.99 or €12.99 to look for somewhere I can go catch some fun at a pleasure park. These ads were ought to be a thing of choice for users to choose to see or avoid them but now a business man wants to start making money from it making the choice a monetary one, how ridiculous.

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November 07, 2023, 08:45:38 AM
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Why would Musk want to exploit the weakness of his social media platforms users to make extra money for his already billionaire status. What are the gains the Facebook and Instagram community are gaining from the use of his platforms - the rich are with the inclination of getting richer and making the poor poorer by using every means to suck the little they have.
Maybe he is a copycat. You know that Elon Musk started paid subscription in two countries recently or so, Mark may just want to copy him as they are like competitors.

If I know I have a gambling disorder I'll just have to stay away from using the FB and IG platforms just like @z390 said, and instead use that €9.99 or €12.99 to look for somewhere I can go catch some fun at a pleasure park.
I will use the €9.99 to €19.99 to gamble instead  Grin. In my country, that is not small amount of money, but I can still use it to gamble to have some fun as my weekly income is far more than that.

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November 07, 2023, 08:59:19 AM
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after I understand several times from the contents of this thread it seems only about paying an anti ad subscription to exclude myself from gambling advertisements via social media and for me there is no need to pay just to stop gambling like when I try to buy a new phone and I use it as usual but without access related to gambling and I have never seen gambling advertisements on social media that are on my new phone. so paying social media to stop advertising is very ridiculous to me and there are many other ways to stop advertising on your social media accounts.

and related to gambling disorders or such as the negative impact of becoming addicted, actually it depends on each gambler, even if they pay weekly or monthly to stop gambling advertisements, but in the gambler mind they still have the desire to gamble, its the same as just throwing away money. so it all comes back to each gambler.

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November 07, 2023, 09:01:50 AM
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Meta's new ad-free subscription for Facebook and Instagram is pretty cool I think. It could be a game changer for people struggling with gambling issues triggered by ads. And there are researches that back this up which I think makes it credible to say that exposure to betting ads increases the likelihood of gambling disorders. By giving users the option to pay a monthly fee to avoid ads, Meta might help individuals gamble more responsibly. But cant it be free? Making this feature free to  audience could enhance its impact. It's a step in the right direction and addressing a real problem but finding ways to ensure everyone can benefit from it would be key to its success. Smiley

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I blocked all social media and their advertising networks from my hosts file. The internet is much better without them.

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November 07, 2023, 09:08:44 AM
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For me personally, I try to use Instagram and Facebook as little as possible on my phone. For facebook speficially there are some open source apps like Frost for android that try to hide ads, but really its very hard to hide the ads on the mobile version as its the main source of Facebook's income.

Facebook really doesn't care if you're an addict, it'll play to your addiction just to earn more from advertisers. Oftentimes they're even caught advertising outright scams and they do nothing about it...

So my advice would be to uninstall Instagram and Facebook apps from your phone. Tell your friends to reach you via an application that doesn't and will never have ads like Signal. If you have to use Facebook and Instagram for work do it via a browser on personal computer.

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uBlock Origin hides ads on all sites including Instagram. Just install the browser extension
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FBPurity hides ads as well as many annoyances as recommended posts from Facebook. Install it as a browser extension or user script
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November 07, 2023, 09:27:24 AM
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Personally, in my opinion, the advertisements on META will not have any influence on me, sometimes I see IG and FB often showing lots of gambling advertisements and lots of people complain about it, I just realized that for some reason lately social media META has a lot of gambling advertisements which are often displayed, sometimes dangerous if seen by underage children, different from Twitter, that's why I prefer playing social media on Twitter rather than IG or FB where there are lots of gambling advertisements.

I think the package will also be useful for people who are capable and feel unsure about controlling themselves, but personally, rather than buying the package, I would rather use it for gambling because I also gamble on weekends for an amount that is not much different from the amount of expenses. In that package, the point is that addicts should not play on social media if they don't want to be influenced and feel unsure about controlling themselves. For me, that's just a normal thing.

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November 07, 2023, 09:43:56 AM
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I think it is important to note that the no-ads subscription is not just for people who have gambling disorders. It is for anyone who wants to avoid advertising on Facebook and Instagram. This could include people who are trying to reduce their spending, people who are trying to improve their mental health, or people who simply don't want to see ads. I wonder how effective the no-ads subscription will be in reducing gambling disorder. It is possible that some people may still be able to find ways to gamble even if they are not seeing ads on Facebook and Instagram. I am also interested to see how popular the no-ads subscription will be. Is it worth the price for people?

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November 07, 2023, 09:58:38 AM
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I think it is important to note that the no-ads subscription is not just for people who have gambling disorders. It is for anyone who wants to avoid advertising on Facebook and Instagram. This could include people who are trying to reduce their spending, people who are trying to improve their mental health, or people who simply don't want to see ads. I wonder how effective the no-ads subscription will be in reducing gambling disorder.

According to the OP, which you either haven't read or haven't understood:

According to a study carried out by Sheffield and Glasgow universities the more people are exposed to betting advertisment the more likely they are to gamble and the greater the risk of them developing a disorder.

Although I would be cautious about the results of a single study. In the end many people who have addictions have to learn how to get out of them despite the possible triggers that are everywhere. Like ex-alcoholics who stop drinking for the rest of their lives: they see advertisements for drinking, people drinking, alcoholic drinks when they go to the supermarket, etc.

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November 07, 2023, 10:54:17 AM
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I don't want to pay any subscription fees to Facebook and will let the ads appear. We as users, can still control the advertisements that will be displayed. We can also report the advertisements to Facebook if they are not relevant so that Facebook can start filtering them. Facebook should be able to listen to complaints from its users, especially if the advertisements have started to annoy them and many of its users don't want to pay the subscription fee.

This is about how people react to the ads they see while using Facebook. Reporting the ads to Facebook can help users filter the ads as well. If you want to reduce interference or gambling advertisements, cooperation is needed from all parties and not just from the provider. But is Facebook ready to filter the advertisements it displays to its users?

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November 07, 2023, 11:00:56 AM
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These social media platforms are becoming wiser these days. Before, we didn't want to see ads and we had no option but to view those ads they'll make money from the viewership they get from their audiences like you and me and this is how they are actually earning from the platform, and that's our task and that's to view their ads for their metrics, statistics, and analytics to show for their advertisers.

Now with this offer, it's like a YouTube subscription that you'll have to pay on a monthly basis so that you'll have no ads on your feed or wall. It's actually a business strategy for most of the platforms now so they make money from those users that don't want to view ads through subscriptions. Still, they also earn money from those who don't want to pay because they'll still view ads from their sponsors or advertisers.

But I am thinking of the brighter side that if it's going to be helpful for a gambler who's dealing with hardship because he/she sees left and right ads about gambling because that's how they work, algorithm. They know our interest, they know the websites and cookies that we've got so in short, they'll just send us with a blast of ads that are also part of our interest.

I don't wanna cut the fun but since I am not from those regions and even I am part of it, I'll not do it. We just need to be responsible gamblers and no matter what you are up to, in the end, it's always you that shall avoid these temptations that you need to overcome.

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November 07, 2023, 11:14:31 AM
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Advertisements ain't just the problem anymore. A lot of content creators are directly advertising the gambling games and websites in their videos (mostly in the end) which means there's no way you could block it. I think Facebook should also be strict about this. There are people who are trying to get away from their gambling addiction and there are kids who are using these applications in this era. They may want to add another security measure by blocking the uploads of those content creators who put gambling inside their clips.
What will be the use of paying those ad blockers if we cannot escape them due to the fact that it's injected inside the clip? They won't get any subscribers of that blocker if that is the case.

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Jesus Christ I thought you were going to pay Meta to remove gambling ads solely, turns out it was all ads. Nonetheless, I don't think it's anything good, honestly, ad removals were only made a thing because the way ads were presented (especially in yt's case) was (and it still is) obnoxious to the point that it ruined user experience, which it should not have. If you really want to turn off gambling adverts, just don't use Facebook lmao. The place is a shithole of nothing anyway, pretty sure you can afford to stop using it (and you can still use messenger if needed really).

There's also the option of using adblockers. They're pretty useful and usually up to date, just have to find the right one. I use uBlock origin and never really had issues.

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November 07, 2023, 11:43:36 AM
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What are your thoughts?

Indeed, at this time related to the advertisement of legal and illegal gambling sites, it is quite troubling for social media users, especially Facebook users because on the social media page there are quite a lot of such advertisements. but unfortunately they not only display their gambling advertisements on special pages, but to trick the social media managers, they often paste the gambling site logo in short videos that are spread on social media and I have seen a video lecture plastered with gambling site logos. And this is often done by illegal gambling sites, which are not responsible.

I really hope that this kind of behavior must be taken seriously by the social media management. Because I am also an active user of social media and feel quite uneasy about this.

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