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November 07, 2023, 10:26:29 PM
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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?
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November 07, 2023, 10:37:13 PM
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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?

Really an interesting topic to ponder upon.
My thoughts about the bullrun for altcoins is basically focused on the dominance scale of Bitcoin and Altcoins.
Although coinmarketcap gives Bitcoin dominance metrics and Ethereum dominance matrics alone, Ethereum is also an altcoin, so lets say its Bitcoin against altcoins, whenever Bitcoin dominance goes below 50% then I consider it a bulrun for the altcoins as the total coins apart from Bitcoin gives that metrics.
Also understand that coinmarketcap doesn't account for the entire coins and tokens in the Blockchain space.

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November 07, 2023, 11:03:39 PM
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The independent Bear and Bull market for altcoins is quite difficult to determine. While it actually exists, Bitcoin normally sets the tone for the overall market. So if Bitcoin is experiencing a bull market, the altcoins suddenly seem to have an increase in demand hence an upward price movement. The same case when it's a bear market; Bitcoin goes down, and altcoins start to nosedive (some even get their new ATL in the process). The last bear market is an example. However, this isn't the same for all altcoins as some altcoins with solid fundamentals, unique features, strong dev teams, etc can have a positive market while others are bleeding.
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November 07, 2023, 11:11:18 PM
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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?
The main reason I stopped gambling was missing out on good entries, a trader would work really hard have his paydays. Bull season could happen at any time; all we have to do is buckle in and prepare to reap the system's enormous advantages. Bear and bull markets are incredibly risky to invest in since they both work in conjunction and nothing will change; all we need to do is become buddies. Bagging altcoins accentuates the presence of whales in the market. If all goes according to plan, cryptocurrency may be worth 100 times our initial investment. Because the bull market has yet to be triggered, we have more time to alter and balance things in the actual sport world.


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November 07, 2023, 11:33:47 PM
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usually based on the cycle it comes after bitcoin bullrun followed by ethereum then altcoin but honestly you can't be so sure.
the way altcoin season works is that usually the altcoin increase in unification reaching all time high, even right now if you see the market all altcoins generally that have good fundamental are already raising in term of price.
but can you call it altcoin season? i don't think so because these altcoin increase aren't meaningful enough because these altcoin just recovering back from their loss in the previous cycle when we hitting bearish market and losing 80% of all time high value.
just wait until bitcoin have massive rally then be prepared for altcoin season, the important thing is you've already accumulated enough.

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November 08, 2023, 02:38:21 AM
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I am not really so good with predicting and speculating anything most especially in regards to the crypto market but what I know is that when there is a bull run for Bitcoin then many altcoins would also be following. And this got something to do with sentiment...when there is an extreme positivity rubbing on the King of Cryptos then there is a big chance that alts would also be getting some of the benefits. I am not sure though if there is a proven correlation with this assumption. So by 2024 we can expect that there would be a double bull run...one happening for Bitcoin and another one happening for many alts especially the leading and more popular ones.

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November 08, 2023, 04:46:01 AM
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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?
i am following the altcoin chart and i expected that when the time of bull market will increase in near future?
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November 08, 2023, 04:59:21 AM
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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?
Interesting question! Bitcoin and altcoins are like tide and boats. Bitcoin raises all boats, but sometimes they sail alone. Each altcoin has its own fundamentals and market dynamics. They may seem to follow Bitcoin, but many have their own "seasons" of bull markets driven by project milestones or external investment. Altcoin bull markets can be sparked by technology advances, increased popularity, or regulatory developments that favour altcoins over Bitcoin. They are evolving while waiting for Bitcoin to take off. The cryptocurrency market is broad and active, with many projects emerging slowly until they gain popularity. When and how cryptocurrency bull markets occur is more important than whether they occur. Expecting an altcoin bull market depends on market, project development, and investor behaviour. This needs careful research, market cycles, and sometimes timing luck.

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November 08, 2023, 04:59:58 AM
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every time the bull run for BTC start, every altcoin prices are also in the bull market. basically crypto bull market includes the altcoins. everyone in crypto have heard of the SHIB rocketing up along with BTC during the last bull run. robinhood adding SHIB on them makes the hype run wild but so far today while the halving approaches no altcoins yet besides SOL that exponentially make a big upturn.

if you are up for memecoins, you are just as hopeful as the rest who are also looking here and there at which one to invest in. there are plenty of them and every shill are telling the shitcoin they own will hit $0.01 while they have billions of it worth $1000.

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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?
i am following the altcoin chart and i expected that when the time of bull market will increase in near future?

Don't expect any bull run for Altcoins for now because Bitcoin is the main engine that drives majority of the altcoins except the pump and dump ones,  basically you should do your research diligently to pick and select altcoins to invest because once Bitcoin resume it bullish run definitely majority altcoins would follow suit, however the ones that would pump massive might vary, I recall in 2017 when Bitcoin reach ATM many altcoins also pumped massively making 10x, 100x etc profits for investors who invested in them I am also expecting history to repeat itself during the next halving of Bitcoin next year where most altcoins are expected to pump respectively.

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In the crypto market, the trend of altcoins depends on the bitcoin situation, the simplest example is to observe it in the short term (about the last 3 months) when we discuss a lot about the mainstream future of the market. Of course there will still be a lot of buzz around and gaining people's attention, but what we expect more is a clearer signal of bitcoin, before and now the index BTC. D is a way to identify the flow of money from bitcoin to altcoin and vice versa.

Most new and old people believe that investing in bitcoin is unlikely to be as profitable as holding altcoins, but that is the story of positions in investment finance, if you take risks easily, you will also easily lose. That's why most of the optimal strategies proposed by experienced people always keep the majority with bitcoin. When the market enters a bullish cycle, the trend of investing heavily in altcoins becomes popular.

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Usually Bitcoin's bull run starts with bull market for Bitcoin and once the value of Bitcoin achieves significant gain there is usually a stagnant phase wherein the price will be in sideways and that's the time Altcoin investment start, on the background people who gains huge profit from Bitcoin starts moving their funds to altcoin once the value of Bitcoin is stable thus inflow of fund along with market sentiment about Bitcoin bullrun plays in favor of Altcoins and this is when the Altcoin bullrun starts with coins achieving ATH but the only difference here when compared to Bitcoin would be that If a coin has performed well in previous bullrun doesn't mean it will do the same this time as well. We have not seen same altcoins breaking their previous ATH and you may check 2017/18 bull run for reference wherein Bitcoin's bull market turn to bear into January 2018 but still ETH sustained till March before entering bear market

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The independent Bear and Bull market for altcoins is quite difficult to determine. While it actually exists, Bitcoin normally sets the tone for the overall market. So if Bitcoin is experiencing a bull market, the altcoins suddenly seem to have an increase in demand hence an upward price movement. The same case when it's a bear market; Bitcoin goes down, and altcoins start to nosedive (some even get their new ATL in the process). The last bear market is an example. However, this isn't the same for all altcoins as some altcoins with solid fundamentals, unique features, strong dev teams, etc can have a positive market while others are bleeding.

A valid question that the OP asked, because it is only bitcoin bull and bear run that most of us know about. From your analysis it is understandable that bitcoin is the pacesetter while other cryptocurencies follows, so in this case altcoins follows bitcoin trends. So i think that bitcoin bull run will trigger the interests for altcoins, where investors  will also want to cash in on other forms of crypto coins. So this can be s sort of bull run also for altcoins, I'm guessing that when it's bearish run for bitcoin, then it'll also affect altcoins negatively. It's just speculations for me, because like the OP I've not  come across where we're expecting bull or bear run for for altcoins, unlike bitcoin that has its pattern.

I believe that there are altcoins out there that can have their own bull and bear seasons, but since my interests are not in altcoin, I wouldn't know much about them. I really think that if there is a sort of regulation for altcoin development, and we don't have plenty of them, then we can understand and predict their seasons better. But crypto is decentralized, so it's easier to mix valuable coins with worthless coins together as altcoins, making it quite difficult for investors to have trust and know their trends.











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November 08, 2023, 07:28:19 AM
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You only know about Altcoins bull runs if you consider taking your time doing your own research about certain projects and following their news and updates and not only that, you also need to know the people behind it if they are truly reliable or not. Altcoins will act on their own and it depends on which altcoin you are talking about because they have their own timing when it comes to increasing their price like example Dogecoin, whenever Elon Musk says a good thing about it, the price will rise up temporarily and it will go down again. others have different approaches and you really need to know it in order to decide which one is good for investment.

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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?

We are already witnessing mini bull run in alts-coins market when Bitcoin coin broke psychological barrier of $30,000. Solana is leading the bull run, its price has almost increased to $44, that is about 5X of its bottom price of $8 during the recent bear market. The historical trends of cryptocurrencies show that bull run usually follows the substantial surge in Bitcoin price. When Bitcoins price stabilizes and its dominance in the market begins to decrease, this serves as indication of upcoming bear run in alts market.

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 You are right that the terms bear market and bull market are commonly used in relation to Bitcoin, but they can also be applied to Altcoins.
It is important to note that Altcoins can have different use cases technologies and development teams which can impact their value and market behavior.
It is true that not all Altcoins receive the same level of attention as Bitcoin. But the Bitcoin is the King and how it will perform the other Altcoins will perform just like that.

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Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?

You're right, some of them were having good prospect, but only few, how do we now know which one is good for an investment and which one should we refrain from, i want to believe that you understand that not every research made can give you adequate result or guarantee for not falling under a wrong crypto projects, but when we have it in mind that we are taking risk in whatever coin we invest, some will definitely yield profit while some may not.

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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?

Alts may pump separately and have its own bull run state but we don't know on when this one would provably happen since majority are in focus on bitcoin. Mostly people just link the bull run to majority of crypto when Bitcoin bull run happen since we can't deny that the price of other altcoin really pump that's why other think that this is the only season where all altcoins will have a good rally. But they didn't realize that bull run also happen to some other alts but we cannot trust them its because some of those tokens are just been manipulated by its owners so that they can play with the emotion of people holding it then deceive them with unexpected actions that's why its hard to spot those altcoin bull run. This is the main reason on why I stick with bitcoin bull because we always see that great things will always happen to this asset.

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November 08, 2023, 08:36:57 AM
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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?

At first I thought that the bear run would be within the first 6 months of the year and the bull run would be in the last 3 months. However, that was not the case anymore because the cryptocurrency market is so unpredictable these days and is highly volatile.

Last 2018, we thought that it would finally recover but it got even worse. From almost $20k, it fell down briefly below $2k before settling around $3kish and the market did not really recover much until the late-2020s when BTC broke above $20k for the first time and even got up to $30k.

At the end of the day, it is all about anticipating the unexpected and we should be more prepared to any situation and acknowledging the results no matter what.

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November 08, 2023, 10:00:51 AM
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usually based on the cycle it comes after bitcoin bullrun followed by ethereum then altcoin but honestly you can't be so sure.
the way altcoin season works is that usually the altcoin increase in unification reaching all time high, even right now if you see the market all altcoins generally that have good fundamental are already raising in term of price.
but can you call it altcoin season? i don't think so because these altcoin increase aren't meaningful enough because these altcoin just recovering back from their loss in the previous cycle when we hitting bearish market and losing 80% of all time high value.
just wait until bitcoin have massive rally then be prepared for altcoin season, the important thing is you've already accumulated enough.

Sometimes I'm also tempted to plan for this thing called altcoins bull led by etheruem just like we see it in bitcoin.I have heard of altcoins rally or bull during the time I joined this forum and that people made good money from hodling altcoins coupled with the bounty hunter rewards that was profitable then. But now, I don't know if there is altcoins rally because I'm yet to witness it separately from bitcoin.

I think bitcoin has over taking the altcoins by far and they become insignificant to bitcoin bull. So maybe we can safely say that bitcoin bull leads altcoins to their new prices and some die off after the price of bitcoin goes into correction mode. So the price of altcoins rally from the bull of bitcoin.

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