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November 13, 2023, 04:26:54 PM
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Yes.. it depends on the area, but in my area it could be said to be relatively moderate.
However, there are also cheap and expensive ones, actually it's not cheap or expensive, but rather how much we can afford to buy them.
Even though it looks cheap, for those who have money it's possible, while those who can't afford it still say it's expensive.

The point is not expensive or cheap, but how much we can afford it.
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November 13, 2023, 04:52:55 PM
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For comparison, may I ask how much a standard meal in your country costs for one meal? what is the standard food menu? What is the average monthly and annual income in your country? Please those who answer can use calculations in USD


With $2 you can have a full meal including drinks in my country. This is for one person and for basic food idea. If you go little bit higher like $4 you can get one of the popular meals on my continent drink included. I was referring to soft drinks not any alcohol. If you can cook your meal at home, you can cut this cost in half. I think you already got the impression that the average income isn't that high in our country. For lower-class people the monthly wage is around $150; for middle-class people, it's $250 to $300.

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November 13, 2023, 05:13:27 PM
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In my country there are 3 parts based on time zones and each has different levels of living costs (the further away from the capital zone, the more expensive the cost of living).
I only take a comparison of fuel prices, say premium types (subsidized prices) as a need to drive business activity. According to the facts, the west zone (capital zone) is the cheapest at $0.64/liter, the central zone is around $2 to $4.5/liter, and the east zone is around $3.5 to $6.4/liter. The average price for 1 portion of food in all regions is usually equivalent to the price of 1 liter of this type of fuel. The average basic salary for employees in all regions is still below $300

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November 13, 2023, 07:17:58 PM
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For comparison, may I ask how much a standard meal in your country costs for one meal? what is the standard food menu? What is the average monthly and annual income in your country? Please those who answer can use calculations in USD


With $2 you can have a full meal including drinks in my country. This is for one person and for basic food idea. If you go little bit higher like $4 you can get one of the popular meals on my continent drink included. I was referring to soft drinks not any alcohol. If you can cook your meal at home, you can cut this cost in half. I think you already got the impression that the average income isn't that high in our country. For lower-class people the monthly wage is around $150; for middle-class people, it's $250 to $300.
Food prices vary in each country; proportion and price. In some countries wherein resources ain’t that of a struggle, marketable goods including food won’t be expensive. Things still have something to do with demand and supply. Since I am on a third world country, food expenses aren’t that high but the proportion of foods differ from one restaurant to another. If I were to compare food serving especially with foreign countries, no doubts that ours would be smaller. The amount we are consuming and spending on a daily basis is a reflection of a country’s economies as well including leaders of the government which are running the regulation and to prevent prices to go up dramatically.

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November 13, 2023, 08:08:10 PM
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I'm from Bangladesh, and the average income of a person is around 20–25k BDT (estimated 200–250 dollers). Although I have doubts if this number is true, there are a lot of people living below the average income because of the recent economic crisis.

Now if I say the living cost of one person, then below should be enough to get an idea.

1. Food: It's around 3000–4000 BDT (30–40 dollers) for a common person.

2. House: Living expenses can vary from place to place. Where I lived, I used to pay 5000 BDT (50 dollers) a month.

3. Transportation: Again, it varies, but 1200–1500 BDT (12–15 dollars) should be enough.

All the data is based on my own experience. I used to live alone. This number may be higher in other places in Bangladesh. Because in recent months, living costs have skyrocketed. Everything became too expensive. Even the daily goods.

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November 13, 2023, 08:58:27 PM
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For comparison, may I ask how much a standard meal in your country costs for one meal? what is the standard food menu? What is the average monthly and annual income in your country? Please those who answer can use calculations in USD


With $2 you can have a full meal including drinks in my country. This is for one person and for basic food idea. If you go little bit higher like $4 you can get one of the popular meals on my continent drink included. I was referring to soft drinks not any alcohol. If you can cook your meal at home, you can cut this cost in half. I think you already got the impression that the average income isn't that high in our country. For lower-class people the monthly wage is around $150; for middle-class people, it's $250 to $300.
Food prices vary in each country; proportion and price. In some countries wherein resources ain’t that of a struggle, marketable goods including food won’t be expensive. Things still have something to do with demand and supply. Since I am on a third world country, food expenses aren’t that high but the proportion of foods differ from one restaurant to another. If I were to compare food serving especially with foreign countries, no doubts that ours would be smaller. The amount we are consuming and spending on a daily basis is a reflection of a country’s economies as well including leaders of the government which are running the regulation and to prevent prices to go up dramatically.
Would really indeed vary on which we know that there are countries which are rich on a certain supply or abundant when it comes to resources on a specific type and there are things which aren't.
Therefore, there would really be some potential importation into those needs which are lacking in exchange to have those export on which supply they are abundant on which the price or value
of those things will really be that depending on the supply and demand. Also, government would really be always having that price monitoring so that everything could really be in control so that
it wont really be ending up on being abused on which the citizens are the ones who do really suffer on conditions like this.

It would be always that ideal that if something that happens in terms of value then it wouldnt really be that an issue if you dont have that money problems or something that do talks
about financial. You cant really just that make yourself that being worried no matter how high the value of those commodoties would be able to reach out.

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November 14, 2023, 06:09:51 AM
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The only thing is that you spend less every month. While I'm on the internet, it's already 32 dollars; for food, it's around 65 dollars; since I have a motorcycle, I spend about 25 dollars on gasoline; and for unexpected costs, it's around 60 dollars; and house rent is 60 dollars per month.

My other billings, such as electricity and water bills, and liability assets that I pay, such as real estate and wages to housekeepers per buwab, are not included.
And with the increasing price of gasoline, that makes it more interesting when the swaying of price in the world crude oil because you don't know when they will increase again or decrease.
$65 for food per month is actually a tight budget if you ask me and are you single and all you need to budget is for yourself?
Because if you have a family, this could be a budget that you can't eat everything you want.
Earlier, my family used to spend about 80 dollars on food, but now the cost has increased to between 150 and 200 rupees. Sometimes the readily available things have to be bought at sky-high prices. Necessary things that we once bought for one dollar, sometimes those things have to be bought for 5 dollars. One of the ingredients in our food chart is eggs, it is better not to talk about these eggs because where earlier you could buy four eggs, now you have to spend the same amount of money to buy one egg. Not just eggs, but every commodity has gone up in price. Those who market will understand how much money it takes to fill the bank and market. The price of each thing seemed new to me, when the traders were told about these things, they excused the cost of transport and fuel.

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November 14, 2023, 01:11:19 PM
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For comparison, may I ask how much a standard meal in your country costs for one meal? what is the standard food menu? What is the average monthly and annual income in your country? Please those who answer can use calculations in USD


With $2 you can have a full meal including drinks in my country. This is for one person and for basic food idea. If you go little bit higher like $4 you can get one of the popular meals on my continent drink included. I was referring to soft drinks not any alcohol. If you can cook your meal at home, you can cut this cost in half. I think you already got the impression that the average income isn't that high in our country. For lower-class people the monthly wage is around $150; for middle-class people, it's $250 to $300.
Food prices vary in each country; proportion and price. In some countries wherein resources ain’t that of a struggle, marketable goods including food won’t be expensive. Things still have something to do with demand and supply. Since I am on a third world country, food expenses aren’t that high but the proportion of foods differ from one restaurant to another. If I were to compare food serving especially with foreign countries, no doubts that ours would be smaller. The amount we are consuming and spending on a daily basis is a reflection of a country’s economies as well including leaders of the government which are running the regulation and to prevent prices to go up dramatically.

This isn't much compared to many countries but what sets the price apart from other countries is their transportation and service costs. A rice plate with meat will not be the same price if they are served in two different place where one is a fancy restaurant and the other is a road side hotel. 

which are running the regulation and to prevent prices to go up dramatically.

In my country it's the politicians who are making decisions to raise the price and they are also running the government. In this case regulation is useless because there isn't any implementation of the law. The law is for those who are not with the government. A really corrupt country and its officials.

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No, I am not looking for a solution to this problem because I am not capable of solving such a complex problem.
OK, and you don't need to look for solutions for the public, but at least for ourselves as an option to balance the complex problems that are occurring. That means this discussion is only for consideration to see the conditions and percentages of food prices in each country as a comparison.
No individual or group can provide solutions to overcome food problems, only the government has the authority to determine food prices to reduce the burden on society. The percentage of food prices in each country is always different, for example in country A the price of food is sold cheaply, maybe the price of ready-to-eat food is a little cheaper, and vice versa.

Yes, I have a prediction that the world will experience a food crisis in the next few years. I speculate that this will start in Europe. Maybe I will ask the same thing in the next few years to ask the same thing and how prices have changed or are still stable
The food problem is a fairly sacred condition because it is related to human life and when this sector experiences problems it will have a much more severe impact on inflation and recession. For example, when Covid-19 occurred and food shortages resulted in uncontrolled price increases and this would ultimately affect national economic stability. Because we are in the same country, perhaps the conditions that occurred during Covid-19 can be a reference for how our society can handle it.
The government can still implement a policy of importing food from other countries to overcome food problems. In countries with extensive agricultural levels and supported by abundant harvests, they will export food to other countries. This condition will be mutually beneficial in maintaining the economic stability of farmers and the survival of people in countries experiencing a food crisis.

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November 14, 2023, 01:48:25 PM
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The minimum wage for non-agricultural workers in Metro Manila is approximately 10.89 USD, while for agricultural workers, it is around 10.23 USD. Specific jobs in some areas provide wages that are too low. Despite the difficulty in finding a job nowadays, there are still occupations that only pay around P300-P400, equivalent to 5.36-7.14 USD or even lower. If you dine at a fast food chain, a simple meal would cost you about 150 pesos or approximately 2.68 USD. However, when eating at a small business restaurant called "Karinderya," you can enjoy a dish on top of rice called "ambula" for only around 50 pesos or roughly 0.89 USD. In Metro Manila, many people rent a room for 5,000 pesos per month, which may or may not include electricity and water expenses if it's a condo unit of 18,000-20,000, around 321.94-357.71 USD. Some people share a room and split the rent with a roommate.
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November 14, 2023, 02:28:40 PM
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For comparison, may I ask how much a standard meal in your country costs for one meal? what is the standard food menu? What is the average monthly and annual income in your country? Please those who answer can use calculations in USD


With $2 you can have a full meal including drinks in my country. This is for one person and for basic food idea. If you go little bit higher like $4 you can get one of the popular meals on my continent drink included. I was referring to soft drinks not any alcohol. If you can cook your meal at home, you can cut this cost in half. I think you already got the impression that the average income isn't that high in our country. For lower-class people the monthly wage is around $150; for middle-class people, it's $250 to $300.
If food costs $2-$4 per meal, it will cost $6-12 per day. there, one person will spend $180-$360 per month. If one person costs $180-360, how much can it cost to run a family? Such expenses can be called huge expenses. Now almost all countries have high prices of food products, but in some countries, even though the prices of food products are high, there is a high level of income due to which both income and expenditure are minimised. Compared to other countries, the price of food products in Bangladesh is very low, but the per capita income here is also very low and that's why we think living in our country is very expensive.

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For comparison, may I ask how much a standard meal in your country costs for one meal? what is the standard food menu? What is the average monthly and annual income in your country? Please those who answer can use calculations in USD


With $2 you can have a full meal including drinks in my country. This is for one person and for basic food idea. If you go little bit higher like $4 you can get one of the popular meals on my continent drink included. I was referring to soft drinks not any alcohol. If you can cook your meal at home, you can cut this cost in half. I think you already got the impression that the average income isn't that high in our country. For lower-class people the monthly wage is around $150; for middle-class people, it's $250 to $300.
If food costs $2-$4 per meal, it will cost $6-12 per day. there, one person will spend $180-$360 per month. If one person costs $180-360, how much can it cost to run a family? Such expenses can be called huge expenses. Now almost all countries have high prices of food products, but in some countries, even though the prices of food products are high, there is a high level of income due to which both income and expenditure are minimised. Compared to other countries, the price of food products in Bangladesh is very low, but the per capita income here is also very low and that's why we think living in our country is very expensive.
Not really. The countries with high levels of income have a high cost of living. Even with a stable job and a good salary offer, people around the world try to find an additional job to come up with the cost of living. Based on your computation, a meal a day for an individual will cost around $12/day and up to $360 a month. It does not end there, there are other expenses and also the rent expense. You won't believe how high is the rent in other countries.

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November 14, 2023, 03:43:24 PM
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For comparison, may I ask how much a standard meal in your country costs for one meal? what is the standard food menu? What is the average monthly and annual income in your country? Please those who answer can use calculations in USD


With $2 you can have a full meal including drinks in my country. This is for one person and for basic food idea. If you go little bit higher like $4 you can get one of the popular meals on my continent drink included. I was referring to soft drinks not any alcohol. If you can cook your meal at home, you can cut this cost in half. I think you already got the impression that the average income isn't that high in our country. For lower-class people the monthly wage is around $150; for middle-class people, it's $250 to $300.
Food prices vary in each country; proportion and price. In some countries wherein resources ain’t that of a struggle, marketable goods including food won’t be expensive. Things still have something to do with demand and supply. Since I am on a third world country, food expenses aren’t that high but the proportion of foods differ from one restaurant to another. If I were to compare food serving especially with foreign countries, no doubts that ours would be smaller. The amount we are consuming and spending on a daily basis is a reflection of a country’s economies as well including leaders of the government which are running the regulation and to prevent prices to go up dramatically.
Would really indeed vary on which we know that there are countries which are rich on a certain supply or abundant when it comes to resources on a specific type and there are things which aren't.
Therefore, there would really be some potential importation into those needs which are lacking in exchange to have those export on which supply they are abundant on which the price or value
of those things will really be that depending on the supply and demand. Also, government would really be always having that price monitoring so that everything could really be in control so that
it wont really be ending up on being abused on which the citizens are the ones who do really suffer on conditions like this.

It would be always that ideal that if something that happens in terms of value then it wouldnt really be that an issue if you dont have that money problems or something that do talks
about financial. You cant really just that make yourself that being worried no matter how high the value of those commodoties would be able to reach out.
The dynamics of resource allocation and income among nations are difficult but fascinating. On the world market, countries that have certain resources have an edge, especially for export. Their trade and business are affected by this lack or presence. Environmental friendliness and moral sources add another dimension. As people become more concerned about the world, it becomes more important to manage resources well. Shouldn't we be serious about green energy? Solar, wind, and hydroelectric power can help us rely less on natural resources. This move might keep trade in check and stop people from overusing natural resources

You are right that the prices of goods do affect regular people. Lots of people are worried about it, especially in poorer places. What would happen if we put local industry and self-sufficiency first? Helping local businesses and farms grow helps keep prices stable and reduces the effects of changes in the global market. People need to be able to afford basic needs, not just have enough money to buy what they need. We lessen the effects of global market changes and help local economies grow

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November 15, 2023, 03:01:18 AM
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No, I am not looking for a solution to this problem because I am not capable of solving such a complex problem.
OK, and you don't need to look for solutions for the public, but at least for ourselves as an option to balance the complex problems that are occurring. That means this discussion is only for consideration to see the conditions and percentages of food prices in each country as a comparison.
No individual or group can provide solutions to overcome food problems, only the government has the authority to determine food prices to reduce the burden on society. The percentage of food prices in each country is always different, for example in country A the price of food is sold cheaply, maybe the price of ready-to-eat food is a little cheaper, and vice versa.
Maybe some of us are too spoiled and have become so dependent on the solutions provided by the government, that we forget to look for our own solutions when faced with these problems. What I mean is quite simple, when we are faced with the problem of food scarcity, we can try to grow it ourselves in our yard as a small-scale food supply in the short term. Even though the government has a responsibility to ensure its people, when the people themselves do not try to find a solution then waiting for the government is also not enough.

For example, when Covid-19 occurred and if people could use empty land to grow some of their food needs then they could avoid this problem a little and at least their family's needs would be met. The price percentage will be determined by the amount of supply and when goods become scarcer the price will rise, that is why there is a need for ways that can be used by individuals and the government to reduce prices so that they fall back to normal.

Yes, I have a prediction that the world will experience a food crisis in the next few years. I speculate that this will start in Europe. Maybe I will ask the same thing in the next few years to ask the same thing and how prices have changed or are still stable
The food problem is a fairly sacred condition because it is related to human life and when this sector experiences problems it will have a much more severe impact on inflation and recession. For example, when Covid-19 occurred and food shortages resulted in uncontrolled price increases and this would ultimately affect national economic stability. Because we are in the same country, perhaps the conditions that occurred during Covid-19 can be a reference for how our society can handle it.
The government can still implement a policy of importing food from other countries to overcome food problems. In countries with extensive agricultural levels and supported by abundant harvests, they will export food to other countries. This condition will be mutually beneficial in maintaining the economic stability of farmers and the survival of people in countries experiencing a food crisis.
This is a good policy when food in the country is unstable and experiencing shortages and usually cooperation regarding imports has taken place before the shortage occurs. However, imports and exports often experience problems when the government is not serious about handling them, especially if these two things are done when the price of goods is increasing due to shortages. Government policy can influence food scarcity to become more stable and if the concept is import and export, perhaps the consideration must be carried out carefully and with full consideration, so as not to cause problems in the future when prices return to normal.

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November 15, 2023, 08:32:02 PM
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Mostly the countries which have high rate in food are not well at the economy,  as I have checked many countries which have lot of varieties of food and they didn't have high price. Which is quite a good thing,  but mostly when the prices are high at a country of aby food then young generation have a lot of problems to face.

Young generation mostly likes the fast food which in turn is very expensive in some countries like it includes the pizza,  thr burger, etc. So this kind of food liked in countries and people love to enjoy it a lot.

This information is lacking some protein and I will like to add some to it.

When there is high cost in buying food from a particular region, it's not because there economy is bad, it could be because the standard way of living there is expensive. In Nigeria here, there are state where you can eat comfortably with $5 which you are going to enjoy so much but when you take such amount to slme places like Lagos and Abuja, you might be able to use it to buy yoghurt and a bottle of water. Even there are places that you hardly see real price been sold there because everyone are cheating each other trying to make a living through extortion, don't even try to rent houses in such kind of environment, it will be deadly.

People like fast food not because they hate naturally cooked meal, it's because they don't have the means and cooking it will take a lot of time. Some people don't have enough time to even sleep, it's now cooking meal that is going to be their priority? They will rather go for the one that is pretty fast, edible and face their work than spend half of the day slicing onions, blending pepper and bleaching oil just to make a food that you can get sharply without dropping a sweat.

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Not enough here in the Philippines, the cost of living here in very high as well but then the daily minimum wage is very low. And as Asian countries, our staple food is rice, and now that it also sky rocketed, even onions here was once like more than the price of gasoline because of some malpractice and corruption as there is also a cartel.

So very hard to have that kind of budget here, it's just 2 days budget for my family for food alone. Prices of basic commodities as well is very high like internet, house rent (although I don't pay rent), water and electricity. So everything is f**k up now. If you just rely on your regular 9-5 jobs and doesn't hassle, I don't think that you can survived here or in any other parts of the globe wherein the price of the basic necessities is going up.
This is the hard situation in our country, the minimum wage is around $11 while the cost of our staple food which is rice is about $1 per kilo. However, for some markets, it's going down because there is more supply that's coming into the market. But can you imagine that it's just for the rice, you already have 10% of your daily minimum wage. Reduce the cost coming from transportation and we can't just eat with rice alone, there's also the water, the shelter and let alone you're renting because you come from a province and work in the metro. If we're going to look at the whole situation, it's really tough and one source of income isn't enough. Man, I am supporting whoever is in the administration and as much as I don't want to complain but, it seems that the government is all for the show.  Undecided

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November 15, 2023, 11:10:04 PM
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I want to know about the cost of living and average income in each country. Can I ask that here?

For comparison, may I ask how much a standard meal in your country costs for one meal? what is the standard food menu? What is the average monthly and annual income in your country? Please those who answer can use calculations in USD

We come from the same country, but because Indonesia has a very large area, there are many price differences there. I come from the most populous island in Indonesia, you probably know that.

In the district where I live, food prices still tend to be cheaper than in urban areas, I live in a rural area. I only need about $0.6 for a plate of rice, vegetables, and chicken. Drinks cost about $0.25 for iced tea

For minimum wages issued by local governments, they set a floor of $155. But in practice most people will earn a monthly salary of around $75 to $250 each month. But the dominant figure is $100. I think it's a small amount but most of us can get food from the garden because many have rice fields and grow rice

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November 15, 2023, 11:16:21 PM
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Not enough here in the Philippines, the cost of living here in very high as well but then the daily minimum wage is very low. And as Asian countries, our staple food is rice, and now that it also sky rocketed, even onions here was once like more than the price of gasoline because of some malpractice and corruption as there is also a cartel.

So very hard to have that kind of budget here, it's just 2 days budget for my family for food alone. Prices of basic commodities as well is very high like internet, house rent (although I don't pay rent), water and electricity. So everything is f**k up now. If you just rely on your regular 9-5 jobs and doesn't hassle, I don't think that you can survived here or in any other parts of the globe wherein the price of the basic necessities is going up.
This is the hard situation in our country, the minimum wage is around $11 while the cost of our staple food which is rice is about $1 per kilo. However, for some markets, it's going down because there is more supply that's coming into the market. But can you imagine that it's just for the rice, you already have 10% of your daily minimum wage. Reduce the cost coming from transportation and we can't just eat with rice alone, there's also the water, the shelter and let alone you're renting because you come from a province and work in the metro. If we're going to look at the whole situation, it's really tough and one source of income isn't enough. Man, I am supporting whoever is in the administration and as much as I don't want to complain but, it seems that the government is all for the show.  Undecided

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True mate, it's really getting harder in our country, known a lot of people barely surviving in the current situation that we have right now. Remember the onion price? Lol, it also skyrocket because of some manipulation by some groups or cartel.

Now it's rice, our staple food, just imagine that it's more than $1 per kilo. So regardless of who is going to be the sitting President of the Philippines, we will experience this kind of issue. But when they are campaigning, you will hear a lot of promises, oh well they are all broken right now. And then they have the nerve to make a lot of noises of this so called Team Unity.

Anyhow, let's go back on the topic and sorry for the rant. Obviously, our regular jobs is not enough and we need to fine another ways to have another sources of income this day not just in my country as the price of everything is increasing.

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November 15, 2023, 11:40:46 PM
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It's hard to explain if the calculation is one meal for one person. In my country the average cost of food for a family is around 4-5 USD a day, and a family usually consists of 4-5 people. Regarding monthly income I estimate it to be between 100-150 USD. Compared to other countries monthly income in my country may be relatively low, but the cost of living in my country is much lower than many countries.

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Not enough here in the Philippines, the cost of living here in very high as well but then the daily minimum wage is very low. And as Asian countries, our staple food is rice, and now that it also sky rocketed, even onions here was once like more than the price of gasoline because of some malpractice and corruption as there is also a cartel.

So very hard to have that kind of budget here, it's just 2 days budget for my family for food alone. Prices of basic commodities as well is very high like internet, house rent (although I don't pay rent), water and electricity. So everything is f**k up now. If you just rely on your regular 9-5 jobs and doesn't hassle, I don't think that you can survived here or in any other parts of the globe wherein the price of the basic necessities is going up.
This is the hard situation in our country, the minimum wage is around $11 while the cost of our staple food which is rice is about $1 per kilo. However, for some markets, it's going down because there is more supply that's coming into the market. But can you imagine that it's just for the rice, you already have 10% of your daily minimum wage. Reduce the cost coming from transportation and we can't just eat with rice alone, there's also the water, the shelter and let alone you're renting because you come from a province and work in the metro. If we're going to look at the whole situation, it's really tough and one source of income isn't enough. Man, I am supporting whoever is in the administration and as much as I don't want to complain but, it seems that the government is all for the show.  Undecided
True mate, it's really getting harder in our country, known a lot of people barely surviving in the current situation that we have right now. Remember the onion price? Lol, it also skyrocket because of some manipulation by some groups or cartel.

Now it's rice, our staple food, just imagine that it's more than $1 per kilo. So regardless of who is going to be the sitting President of the Philippines, we will experience this kind of issue. But when they are campaigning, you will hear a lot of promises, oh well they are all broken right now. And then they have the nerve to make a lot of noises of this so called Team Unity.
Yeah, that's crazy with the onion cartel, and don't forget about the chili as well. All of these can be done actions if the government is serious about terminating all of those who are causing the high prices. Well, about these campaigns and politics, we always get the same promises as what they're trying to say. All of those are promises and maybe a few of them get really kept and made. I understand what you feel mate because we're on the same page and having the same thoughts with all of these circus' that's always played in front of us.

Anyhow, let's go back on the topic and sorry for the rant. Obviously, our regular jobs is not enough and we need to fine another ways to have another sources of income this day not just in my country as the price of everything is increasing.
Yeah, one won't be enough so get at least one full time and one part time or any other extra source of income or business. If you're married, it's not enough that only a man should work but if he gets a high paying job, you'll live like a king in here. But also depending on the area.

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