Is this quality of life idea?

[joniboini]

I never see myself needing this feature. It might help newbies avoid scams, but they can easily do it by confirming or double-checking the website of said coins/tokens. It might also help people who are too lazy to type the right name (e.g. Bitcoin), but that's that. Compared to the cost and probably controversy around them, I'd say it is not needed. Google is just one tab away anyway.

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[hd49728]

That was floating around in my head as well, although I doubt CMC or coingecko are likely to periodically stop working like preev does.  Those two sites probably make money, whereas preev is just a ticker.

I agree and I thought about it too. It's like impossible to happen with Coinmarketcap and Coingecko because they are too big and also get income from their site operations. My point is more general than that, which I think you know too, relying on third-party sites is risky. It can bring troubles to the forum similar to problems with imgur.com website.

I never see myself needing this feature. It might help newbies avoid scams, but they can easily do it by confirming or double-checking the website of said coins/tokens. It might also help people who are too lazy to type the right name (e.g. Bitcoin), but that's that. Compared to the cost and probably controversy around them, I'd say it is not needed. Google is just one tab away anyway.

Watching price too much will be harmful for newbie investors. They will be less confident about their investment decision and it's harder for them to hold their bitcoins. With them, having more exposure to market price updates will cause more emotional and psychological issues.

[Pmalek]

I don't like the idea of the forum linking to an outside source, and in that way signaling to the user to go and visit that website. Instead, we could think of a way to display price information right here on the forum. I am not a coder, so I don't know what is possible with the current forum software.

@PowerGlove please chip in. Could the forum display current BTC price when you swipe the mouse cursor over a word that contains a unique piece of code? As an example, we can use the proposed $BTC. Is that or something similar doable?

[joker_josue]

I don't like the idea of the forum linking to an outside source, and in that way signaling to the user to go and visit that website. Instead, we could think of a way to display price information right here on the forum. I am not a coder, so I don't know what is possible with the current forum software.

@PowerGlove please chip in. Could the forum display current BTC price when you swipe the mouse cursor over a word that contains a unique piece of code? As an example, we can use the proposed $BTC. Is that or something similar doable?

It will always be necessary to use an external API for the price to be displayed.
Either way, I don't think a mouse-over system or specific code should be used for the post. The price of bitcoin is constantly changing, so if something exists it must be dynamic.

What could happen was in the forum header, for example next to the date/time, the bitcoin price would also appear. That would be more interesting.

[libert19]

I don't like the idea of the forum linking to an outside source, and in that way signaling to the user to go and visit that website. Instead, we could think of a way to display price information right here on the forum. I am not a coder, so I don't know what is possible with the current forum software.

@PowerGlove please chip in. Could the forum display current BTC price when you swipe the mouse cursor over a word that contains a unique piece of code? As an example, we can use the proposed $BTC. Is that or something similar doable?

It will always be necessary to use an external API for the price to be displayed.
Either way, I don't think a mouse-over system or specific code should be used for the post. The price of bitcoin is constantly changing, so if something exists it must be dynamic.

Well, ofc it should be dynamic, otherwise what's the use.

Anyway, I have vague idea about dev stuff, but javaScript could be used for such stuff right?

What could happen was in the forum header, for example next to the date/time, the bitcoin price would also appear. That would be more interesting.

That's not what I mean, proposed idea is more like, if user writes $btc or any other alt ticker, hovering over it would display that coin's price, hovering over is taken from comments here, it's better than click.

[yhiaali3]

As I see, most members did not welcome the idea very much. I also do not find the idea useful for the forum from a practical standpoint. It may not seem like a bad idea, but at the same time it does not have much benefit.

We do not have to do free advertising for third parties. In addition, it is not possible to specify the preferred site for members to fetch prices. There are many members who do not prefer both sites (cmc/cg) and prefer a different site.

Also, do not forget that we are a forum to talk about Bitcoin, and the word "BTC" may appear thousands of times in different topics every day, so we do not have to fill the forum with useless links because they will certainly cause slow page performance and other problems.

[joker_josue]

Well, ofc it should be dynamic, otherwise what's the use.

Anyway, I have vague idea about dev stuff, but javaScript could be used for such stuff right?

What I wanted to say is that it doesn't make sense for the forum to automatically post dynamic information.

Furthermore, we already have an API available to be used here on the forum that helps in this regard. It was made by bitmover and can be found here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445282.msg63171340#msg63171340

[Pmalek]

As I see, most members did not welcome the idea very much. I also do not find the idea useful for the forum from a practical standpoint. It may not seem like a bad idea, but at the same time it does not have much benefit.

The idea isn't useless. I am pretty sure that most people who are into bitcoin and crypto check the price daily, if not several times a day. Why not see it somewhere on Bitcointalk in a post instead of checking it elsewhere.   

We do not have to do free advertising for third parties.

That's what I am talking about as well. Why divert traffic away from Bitcointalk to CMC or CG if there is a solution that is better for the forum? It's not like CMC and CG sends any traffic our way or advertises the forum as a good knowledgebase for bitcoin.

[yhiaali3]

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Yes, I am with you on this point. All members check the Bitcoin price several times a day and it would be very good if we saw the price fixed somewhere on the forum, but not for the price to be fetched by a third party.

I mean if the price of Bitcoin was displayed in a fixed place (at the top left of the forum page, for example) instead of placing a link to the price with the word “BTC” written every time.

For example, I use the BitcoinTalk Script add-on to display the price of Bitcoin and Ethereum at the top of the forum page as shown in the picture:

               

It would be nice to have a similar script integrated with the forum page.

[Pmalek]

For example, I use the BitcoinTalk Script add-on to display the price of Bitcoin and Ethereum at the top of the forum page as shown in the picture.

I have never heard of it. I know that there are various add-ons and themes created by different people for Bitcointalk, but I have never used any myself. Which script does that? Has it anything to do with the BPIP add-on? I am asking because I can see the icons that the BPIP add-on adds on the upper left of the screenshot you posted.

[yhiaali3]

For example, I use the BitcoinTalk Script add-on to display the price of Bitcoin and Ethereum at the top of the forum page as shown in the picture.

I have never heard of it. I know that there are various add-ons and themes created by different people for Bitcointalk, but I have never used any myself. Which script does that? Has it anything to do with the BPIP add-on? I am asking because I can see the icons that the BPIP add-on adds on the upper left of the screenshot you posted.

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Yes, this is a very good add-on that I have been using for a while, created by member @mrvuit in this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178297

This Google Chrome extension has nothing to do with the BPIP add-on, it's a different extension.

Unfortunately, the member who created this tool was banned from the forum for violating the forum rules, but the add-on still works well and can be downloaded from the Google Chrome store via the link:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bitcointalk-script/ebkdbmfcjnnpoplaphlokgpehbddamcn

[Pmalek]

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It's unfortunate that the user was banned. Who knows what else he could have created that would be useful for the whole community.
I just watched the video demonstration of an older version of the extension at work. That one doesn't really have that many features I would personally need. The dark theme would come in handy occasionally. I am wearing a signature and avatar myself, so I find it illogical to block their visibility on my end. The link opening in new tabs works with a click of the central mouse wheel for those that want it. And finally, I see no problems with the font size, and I can always zoom in/out if needed.

But two of the new features mentioned in the change log seem interesting.
The first one is the Report to Moderator option. I am guessing you get a proper window or pop-up where you can submit a report in contrast to the one-line report field which is default on the forum? I remember I had a cell-phone in the 90s where you only had one line to write your SMS going left to right. Imagine how fun that was with long SMS messages.
And the second feature is the price box that appears on the forum.

[PowerGlove]

@PowerGlove please chip in. Could the forum display current BTC price when you swipe the mouse cursor over a word that contains a unique piece of code? As an example, we can use the proposed $BTC. Is that or something similar doable?

Yep, I could do something like that. Not sure if it's a good idea though...

I don't always follow my own advice, but when I remember to, I like thinking of forum patches in terms of niftiness vs. usefulness, and then weighing the engineering effort (and maintenance burden) against that. OP's suggestion/idea (while appreciated) scores pretty poorly when looked at this way. That is, it both leans left on the nifty vs. useful scale, and it leans left on the messy-to-implement vs. easy-to-implement scale. The best feature suggestions lean right on both scales (that is, they're legitimately useful and don't add much complexity to the codebase). The next best kind are right-left (that is, they're useful, but might not admit a simple implementation). The worst kind are left-left (nifty rather than useful, and tricky to implement).

Lack of genuine usefulness aside (IMHO, of course), OP's idea is tricky to implement because it involves complicating SMF's message parsing code (which is already pretty hairy) with new syntax. Thinking in terms of the existing BBCode syntax would lead to a cleaner patch. So, OP's idea would be easier to implement if the proposal was to add a new BBCode tag, like: [coin]BTC[/coin].

However, if [coin]BTC[/coin] simply resolves to the same thing (for example) that [url=https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/]BTC[/url] would have, then its primary advantage (besides being able to switch out providers, I suppose) is brevity, and I don't think that's important enough to automatically link to some third party. If remembering (and typing out) longish BBCode sequences turns out to be at the heart of the problem statement, then I'd rather tackle that by adding a customizable "snippet" system to the BBCode editor, so that frequently used BBCode templates can be inserted easily (that would also address one of LoyceV's requests for a "split quote" feature that quickly inserts [/quote][quote], and it would probably find many other uses, too).

Another way to go (if we just concern ourselves with bitcoin, and with showing information directly) would be to modify the existing [btc] tag, so that in addition to rendering a little bitcoin symbol, it also displays the current price (and maybe other details) on mouse hover. (I still think that's probably more nifty than truly useful, though.)

[joker_josue]

Another way to go (if we just concern ourselves with bitcoin, and with showing information directly) would be to modify the existing [btc] tag, so that in addition to rendering a little bitcoin symbol, it also displays the current price (and maybe other details) on mouse hover. (I still think that's probably more nifty than truly useful, though.)

Personally, I don't really like this subliminally hidden information, which forces the user to move the mouse over it to see its content. It may be funny at first, but over time it is simply a useless and inconvenient resource. It's something I hate on websites, luckily it's gone a bit out of fashion. Because I always get the feeling that the site is trying to hide something, and that's not good.

Well this is just my opinion on this type of functionality.

[tjtonmoy]

I want to propose an easy way of doing it if anyone is too lazy to do it manually. It is also manual but will take less time to do it. You won't have to search the web to get the link multiple times. This also prevents the wrong redirection from hyperlinks. This works in both Android and Windows 10 and 11 {Not available if you are using XP, Vista, 7 or 8}. Press down on the Windows key and V which will open Clipboard. You will have to enable it first. Then go to the website or the hyperlink you want to copy. Then type the full code for inserting the hyperlink.
i.e.

Code:

[url=https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/]$BTC[/url]

copy this code and then press the Windows key and V together and open the Clipboard and then click the 3 dot menu as shown in the picture to open up the menu to pin it on the clipboard so that after restart it stays there.



You can keep multiple codes saved in the clipboard. If you want to use it in the future, just click the key combo Windows+V and scroll up or down to select the code and press on it. It will get pasted right there.

Now let's talk about Android devices. It works on Google keyboard. Haven't tried any other so can't provide enough info. You can check if your keyboard has the option or not. If not then download Gboard.
Here is how it works. Go to your Gboard settings then click on Dictionary. Then click Personal Dictionary as shown below.


After that click on whatever language you are using. In my case, it's only English (US). Then click the + icon to add a new word.



Paste the code on the top and add the shortcut in the next box which you want to use for that code to appear on your keyboard. Then press the back arrow on the top left. After that come back to writing. Write the shortcut you used for that code, in my case Btc or btc. The whole code will show up in the middle on the keyboard bar. Press it and it will paste the code. It will also replace the shortcut you have written.




If you press space or continue your typing, the shortcut won't get pasted. You need to do it manually.
Hope this helps.

[wallet4bitcoin]

Whenever someone mentions coin ticker with prefix $, site automatically hyperlinks it to coin tracking site (cmc/cg). For example, $BTC, will be automatically hyperlinked like this $BTC.

It's just idea I had in mind, it could be useless but I wouldn't know, second person can judge better.

A wonderful idea I must confess but....

There are some downsides to the idea, the concept of adding '$' to coins/tokens will have made more sense if there were specific tickers assigned to specific projects but it's not that way. On cmc/cg, we have more than two projects having the same ticker. so, which coin/token should be embedded?

Except it will only be for major coins like Btc, Eth and co.

Although it works that way on X (twitter) but it's majorly for coins that are popular as mentioned above.

[DVlog]

Whenever someone mentions coin ticker with prefix $, site automatically hyperlinks it to coin tracking site (cmc/cg). For example, $BTC, will be automatically hyperlinked like this $BTC.

It's just idea I had in mind, it could be useless but I wouldn't know, second person can judge better.

What if someone says a word and a token exists by that name? That can be a scam token and lead an innocent person to lose his money. This is a good idea for a place like twitter. Can we search a topic directly from google by using the forum or by adding the topic URL from google to the forum with just one click? It can be useful for some people and only a waste of time for a few.

[Mate2237]

This is not a bad idea and it will make things easy for people to navigate to exchanges, and price trackers in other sites. And that should be done by the thread creator. If someone is creating a thread and mentioned those signs or symbols then he or she can hyperlink the sign to the original website of the symbol. And that will also depend on the content of the thread because if you hyperlink a wrong link then you have spoiled everything in the thread, and not all will need the link.

Yes whatever you create people must disagree to agree and not everyone will accept your idea. And what you said the OP, you did not mentioned where the hyperlink will be used. is it the individual threads has I said, or where?

[libert19]

And what you said the OP, you did not mentioned where the hyperlink will be used. is it the individual threads has I said, or where?

In individual post, or any location where text can be written.

[cafter]

It's easy for me, just right click on the text or written token and click the option of "Search google "---"" it's lot easier for me to do.

this feature will mostly help in altcoin boards because there are too many tokens get discussed, which are not known by everyone.